Episode 22: Pipe Dreams and Plastic Things

Cambridge m Sean is a weirding Way media podcast. Tack Cracy Show. Hello and Welcome to Cambridge and with Sean, a podcast by two weird guys about the weird things they like. I am Ronnie, otherwise known as Sclevator on the YouTube's and I'm here with my pal Mark. Hi everybody.

I don't know what that was. Two creeps creeping out. I want to give a shout out to a couple of our listeners because I ran into them yesterday. Mutual friends of ours, Steve and Rebecca Shepherd, listened to the show and Steve was trying to get information out of me about what we were going to be recording today. And you're just gonna have to tune in and listen.

You gotta have patience, Steve patience. He said. His favorites are one Plastic rock. Ball, Yeah, well that's everyone's favorite. And micro Nuts.

Oh yeah, sorry. None of your things made the list because nobody cares about Masters of the Universe. I just haven't talked about punk rock yet. We're getting there. Oh there you go.

Then that'll get him. That'll grab that guy. You know, a little shout out to Steven because his band Trash and Privilege is really good and they've been playing shows a putting out some really good punk rocks. So everybody go find Trash. It's like Toys r Us.

It's trash in. Privilege, Privilege, Trash privilege. Trash Privilege. Brilliant name for a band, and they're doing really good stuff and there's so much fun cool. I feel lucky to know them.

They're doing good things. And also hello to I don't know if Courtney listens to the show. I know she listens to Wake Up Heavy, but I also saw her yesterday as well. That's awesome if you're listening, Courtney, Hello, and thanks for coming to my dad's memorial. And yeah, that's where I saw those folks, so nice.

AnyWho, all good people. Yep. Today we have some interesting things to talk about. All stuff that is plastic, well partially. To a certain extent, is yours plastic?

Some of it is, some of it plastic, okay, and some of yours is plastic. All of mine is plastic. Although it comes from a non plastic source. Plastic fantastic, the plastic what is that plastic? Oh?

I have to look that up, thinking, what is it? Plastic? Fantastic I know what you're asking song or an album? Yeah, what is that? I don't know.

I'll look it up at my computer and tell us, But. Can your computer voice come on and tell us? Sorry, I have no idea what the boys are talking about here. I'm going to have another sort of copy because when you're old and it's the morning, mark, what is on your agenda for today's discussion? Today, I am talking about something that has been on my list for quite a while.

One of the original things I wrote down when we started talking about doing this show. I wanted to jot down as many childhood things as I could remember. While I was remembering them, it just kept getting pushed back for other items, whether it was to be more in line with what you were going to talk about, or if something had popped up recently that was more intriguing to me, or I found on eBay or whatever. I know. I did some research and was looking up photos and sourced some images for these items, also bought some on eBay.

Vaguely mentioned it at one point like, oh, I got this thing, but I haven't talked about them yet, so I'm not gonna. I didn't mention it on our Christmas episode because I hadn't done an episode on these yet, but I had bought them last year. So anyway, it's headgear again, not top hats, but plastic baseball helmets. Oh yeah, from now. I was looking up the pronunciation of this, and I think it maybe depends on the origination.

Is that a word it is now? You heard it on Cambridge and with Sean origination. So it's laich, which for maybe Anglo Saxons it would be lake. But I always want to say, like for some reason, like given that ai the long eye sound, or it could be lah. Or leitch lash.

On the good old Internet it says lake. So Lake Industries, which was a thick a subdivision of Got it here on my Bag Sports Products Corp. From Cleveland, Ohio back in the gosh early to mid sixties, because actual batting helmets weren't really a thing until around that time. But once they became the standard for baseball players so that they didn't get. Brain damage, yea necessary.

The next logical step was to create novelty items and sell them and make money. So they did this When I was a kid. One of the things that I would always look at at toys rs son of a bitch, what happened? I don't know if that came through on your end. No, No, I didn't mean anything.

God damn it, getting a fucking phone call in it's coming through on my computer. Let's leave that in a fucking phone call. So when I was a kid, one of the things I loved to look at in the toys r us in Fashion Fair. And I believe this is why I was looking for Fashion Fair pictures a couple of months back when I found the answer to my video store name in Sunnyside, And it was because of these helmets, I think. So that was one of the times that I was considering talking about this.

I have a question. Did you ever find photos of toys r us in Fashion Fair? No? Yeah, I can't remember it. I tried looking too.

I cannot remember a toys r us in Fashion Fair? Oh. I was there for a long time. That's where I got tons of I mean, other than Arthur's toys. But whenever we would go to the mall, I would go.

It wasn't very big, right, and later on it became KB Toys. Got it? Yeah, I remember KB. Yeah, So it was down on that end of the mall. Other than actual toys.

Whenever we would go to Toys r US, I would go to the display for these helmets. They were pretty much like front and center display, like end cap display right when you walked in. This was the large sized helmets that you could actually wear, So the reproduction helmets of the teams at the time a man. I was so drawn in by that plastic of these helmets. It was the look of them.

I was a baseball kid. I played Little League when I grew up, and my dad and I watched baseball. My favorite team in the seventies was the Los Angeles Dodgers because that was his team. He grew up in LA so I know that he and his dad went to LA Dodger games and it was a great team back in the seventies. So that was my main goal was to have an LA Dodgers reproduction batting helmet, which I had as a kid.

That's so cool. And then the rest of them were kind of based on design, really, and I don't think you can beat the seventies for mascot and logo designs in baseball and football. I completely agree, and maybe basketball. I never watched basketball as a kid on TV. We watched football and baseball, the logos and the mascots.

I had a Baltimore That doesn't sound right. I had a Baltimore Orioles one. No interest in the Baltimore Orioles other than the design of the helmet this black and orange and white and the logo. You know, it's very cartoony. Now they just all have the letters of their city or whatever, you know, an o for Orioles.

It's like, that's boring. I mean, LA's is boring in comparison other than the fonts. That was the other thing that the stylish font you know, Cincinnati their CEA was interesting. Pirates had a cool yeah font. Those things just really every time we went I would look at those.

I had at least three so La Baltimore Orioles. I think I had a San Francisco Giants hat and I want to say the Minnesota Twins as well. And those were because of the colors and the style of the helmet, not because I was fans of those teams. Yeah, San Francisco Giants, orange and black. It's hard to get better than that's yeah, so cool.

And we would wear them, you know, my best friend and I when we would play catch or hit a ball around or whatever. We would wear those plastic batting helmets. They came with the strap thing so that it would have been on your head. Otherwise it just would have rolled around and fallen off, kind of like the construction worker strap that was adjustable. Adjustable too, Yeah, yeah, I remember.

They were adjustable, kind of like an adjustable soft cap. I just loved you talk about tactile things a lot. Yeah, and for me that brings that tactile memory that hard I guess polypropylene plastic that they're made out of, and they're super shiny, felt nice in your hand. You tap them, and they had nice sound. I don't know when I ended up getting rid of those, probably around the same time I got rid of everything else.

As we were kind of talking off air before this recording, you mentioned that there were other sizes. They also had the kind, and they still do this. It's not the same company. I think Rawlings are one of their subsidiaries or something does these now. But if you go to a ballpark or if you go to an ice cream.

Shop, I was just gonna say ice cream. You can get the kind that is a bowl basically, And so I had a number of those as a kid as well, and if you went to bask and Robins, you know, I think Dairy Queen would do this as well, but we never really went there as a kid. Go to basket Robins, get a scoop or a couple scoops of ice cream, maybe pay fifty more cents for the baseball helmet. I liked them, but I also didn't like them because they were flat on the bottom. To be a bowl, you could set it down, it wasn't realistic because of the flat thing.

I don't think I kept any of those, Like, I didn't have a collection of those. I would just get them when we would get ice cream or whatever, and then they probably ended up getting thrown away. They're in the trash heap right outside of Presno right now, it's. Still in perfect shape because, as we've discussed, plastic does not exactly. I had some of the ice cream bowls for sure.

Yeah, I don't remember which teams, but it was probably Giants because that's what my family was into back when I was that age. But yeah, I loved those. I think I even delighted in trying to put them on the top of my head as like little teeny tiny hats. And even though they did have the flat bottom, but those I agree with you, the tactile quality of those little helmets, of the big ones, the regular sized ones too. It was just so cool.

I had this weird fascination with baseball as a kid, not as a game, but as in thinking about the tools of the game. And I think it started with I got a cake when I was very little, and I got a baseball. There were some baseballs, and there was a baseball design like a baseball diamond. So little plastic baseballs and little plastic baseball bats. I mean nightmare for parents.

I'm sure with kids swallowing them and stuff, But I think I held on to one or two of those baseballs and baseball bats for a very very long time, deep into my early teens. I had them on the shelf. There's just something about them. And I'm not a sports guy. There was something about the tools of baseball, the catchers adding that they wore in the front, the catcher's helmet like you said, the helmet when you're at bat, the style of clothing that they wore, and the baseballs themselves.

Like I've delight in holding a baseball, I don't enjoy playing baseball. But I love holding a baseball, and I have a baseball bat right by my bed. That's mainly so do I just in case type of thing. Yeah, I just got my dad's Louisville Slugger that he tipped under his bed for decades. When we moved my mom a couple of weeks ago, I was like, oh, I'm taking this home because all I had under my bed was a novelty bat from a Dodger game that we all went to.

That's like, you know, I would split over somebody's head and not even hurt them if I hit him, But this one that I got for my dad will take somebody out if I can manage to hit him in the head. I have one too, that's been in the family for decades. It's got a little Atari advertisement on it. It's beautiful and it's wooden. And oh, you know those novelty bats too, Like I was obsessed with those too.

That's why I still have. That's one thing that survived. I've always held on to that little Dodger's novelty bat. It's probably about maybe eighteen inches, maybe not that big, but yeah, something about holding it is fun. Yeah, and you.

Mentioned the catcher's gear, and I think that's a big part of why I became a catcher in little league, was to be able to put all that gear on. So cool, I mean, and I ended up being a good catcher, so it worked out well for my dad. Oh there you go. That's awesome. Yeah.

I've never had a talent for sports since I've always been lousy at them, even when I was put into the teams when as a kid, and I never wanted to do it. But man, I could stare at a baseball mit for hours. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, these artifacts are amazing. There is something very I don't want to say stylish, but there is something to that sport in particular.

Yeah, I agree that has an aesthetic appeal, especially again back even earlier than the seventies. But the pinstripes, for at the uniforms so cool. The stirrup socks, and in little league, all we got was a jersey shirt with our name on it. But once you got into the major leagues, you actually got a uniform. And I couldn't wait to be able to wear stirrup socks.

Oh yeah, anyway, the third size maybe there's more I know about the full size reproduction hats, the ice cream bowls, and then there are the capsule toy size helmets. Now known as Nego sized. No, unfortunately, no, they're a little too big for that. Yeah. These were one of those ubiquitous things like Cutie Fruity's or munch bunch or whatever you want to call those pencil toppers and all that other stuff that you would be able to get when you were walking out of the store and had a quarter in your pocket and you go buy the capsule toy machines.

And so there were baseball helmets and football helmets, which I had a few of as a kid as well, but they didn't really trigger anything in me that much, and I think, well, I know that stores also had displays of these little counter displays that the helmets fit into, but I love getting these things as a kid. I believe I had an La Dodgers one as a kid, and it was, of course luck of the draw. You drop your quarter in and you have no idea what team you're going to get. Could be your most hated team, the rival of your favorite team, or whatever. One of the things that I would search for on eBay when it rolled around, and I started thinking about the things that gave me joy and pleasure as a kid.

Oh yeah, little many baseball helmets. So I would look them up from time to time, and of course most of them are beat up, and then you know they've been made over the years by different companies and now they're once the helmets started to change where if you watch a game, now it's like everybody's got a matt finish on their helmet. They're not the shiny plastic and they all have ear guards. You know these I love the ones that didn't have earguards. As a kid, they just looked cooler to me.

You know. You stumble on all that kind of newer stuff on eBay and I'm like, I'm not interested in that. So when I was looking because of our show, single ones would come up, or batches of them, and they'd all be beat up. But there were bagged versions. So I bought a bag of twenty six I think and incredible for less than twenty dollars, so basically a dollar apiece.

And it's a little bit later. I think these are from like eighty four eighty five, so a lot of the logos have been simplified and change. Once you got out of the seventies, they, like I said, started just doing H for Houston instead of neat astros symbol or something. Some of these still have old logos like this Blue Jay one a whole bag for whatever. However many teams there were at that point, and then I just kind of pulled out some of my favorites, like this Phillies one, mainly because of.

The color that style p is. Yeah, some that's got a cool font on it. And then the Pirates won because it's a solid yellow with black. Sometimes they're black with a yellow pee. I think when I was a kid, some of them were pretty intricate, like they would actually have the whole Baltimore Orioles thing with the different colors, because some of them would have this sort of triangular thing that would start at the top and go down to the bill with the logo right in the center of it, and might have three colors.

And these are much more simplified. I think. There's all the light blues are basically the same, and the reds are the same red, and then there's like a dark blue and some blacks in here. You know. New York Yankees is a very I love that iconic.

And then the Giants is very simplified to just SF on a black hat, so they're a little bit simpler than I would have liked. I probably would have preferred something from a decade or so earlier. But can't beat twenty bucks for a swing. Of US for all of those like, that's such a great deal and that they're from eighty five or whatever. If I looked at the team, Oh yeah, nineteen eighty four copyright nineteen eighty four.

Nice. No, that twins one is pretty cool actually anyway, Yeah, I would have preferred late seventies because that's when I was a fan, and the helmets were a little more interesting. But you mentioned, you know, Migo sized, and they are most definitely not. And that was the one thing that always bugged me about these because I mainly had migos as a kid. I did have one Gi Joe, and I don't think it fits them either.

I have Atomic Man Gi Joe figure and I try to put it on him and it barely fits. It's a little little bit undersized. Undersized. Yeah, no, the helmets are undersized for six million dollar man Oscar Golman now, so they didn't really fit on anything that was bothersome to me because I know I wanted to incorporate them in play. They're way too big for egos.

I should try my big gym, but I think they're too big for those as well. Try. Unfortunately, I don't know. There may have been a figure somewhere out there at the time that they would have fit on. I think the football helmets you had a better chance of actually getting them on a figure, and there were sports figures back then that came with their own football helmets, which is a whole other thing.

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Choose your favorite teams, look like all twenty. Six bask and Robins. You're bet in one thousand a two Scoop Sunday served in a mini baseball helmet, and the helmet's free. I didn't get into really get into sports until the late eighties early nineties as a thing to be interested in or where or collect like supports stuff. I mean I had the baseball and the base ball bat, little tiny cake toppers.

But then when my mom married my second stepfather, he was just totally obsessed with sports. I mean it consumed him in a considerable way. And he was all about the forty nine ers in San Francisco Giants, and I was like trying to find ways to bond with him, and so I found ways to become interested in those teams. And that's right around the time, I believe where starting lineup action figures started to show up in stores. And also that's when I discovered the ice cream hats and the souvenir baseball bats.

And to this day, I think I prefer wearing baseball caps over any other style hat, although I wear the kind of floppy dad style ones. There was something about the plastic helmets that really struck me too, and I totally collected those and I put quarter in the machine and got the small ones too. It didn't matter what team, it was just something about having them on the shelf. The plastic of these is just so appealing to me for some reason. Yeah, it's a tactile thing.

And visual, just how shiny they are, and it's a weird concept, like why, yeah, they're reflecting all of the light coming in from my room. I can see the window reflections in them, and that was super appealing as a kid. For whatever reason, it's probably not a super high quality plastic. It's probably similar to the plastic that they use for Easter eggs and stuff like that, but there's something about it. It's like holding it right.

No, it's a little bit thicker than that. It's more substantial. Those things crack so easily. Easter eggs, you know, you'd have to really push on one of these to break it. I don't know if it's just because they're thicker, but it is probably a similar plastic.

But they're I mean, these things are going to last. We know they're going to last forever unless I were to step on them or something. But yeah, they're just fun to look at. And it gives me immense pleasure to look down and see these things shining back at me. Yeah, so weird.

They're beautiful objects. It's crazy. The shape of them, you know, is so appealing too, the roundness and the bill and I don't know, it's a weird thing. Yeah, I got back into baseball caps. I think in like after I graduated from Fresno State, I started trying to find and I don't know if it was they were coming out at this time or if it was just me looking for them.

Like you could get a Brooklyn Dodgers hat retro style stuff, So I think I had Brooklyn Dodgers and I had a Boston Red Sox, like old timey hats like that were not the adjustable kind that were like made to fit my head, you know, the red size for my head. It didn't last super long. Bad pictures of me in the nineties, a lot of them were baseball cap And it's kind of funny that I talk about headwear or have on this show and I hardly ever wear hats anymore. Like I don't leave the house with a hat on my head. I probably should since I'm balding, but I don't.

I don't like it. Actually, Yeah, I find myself feeling more comfortable sometimes wearing a hat for some reason, even though it's a mindset. It's not because I don't really feel like I have to take it off every once in a while and like itch my head and like I just feel like it's a little bit uncomfortable physically, But I don't know why. I feel like it's a safety thing. I don't know what it is, like a I'm trying to think of that term of safety blanket.

No, that's not the right term, comfort thing. I don't know there's a phrase for that, Like, dang it, what is that? You mean? Like what Linus has? Yeah, like what Linus has?

You know what I'm talking about? You and I can't for that. I know there is, and we'll have the computer in circuit here when one of us eventually thinks of it. The term these geniuses can't think of is security blanket. Anyways, I feel very comfortable being out in the world with something on the top of my head for some reason, and I prefer the baseball cap style, but the soft adjustable kind, the more affordable kind.

And in fact, I've recently ordered on eBay a trucker style Disneyland hat from the nineteen eighties and that made me very happy. And I also got one from the nineties as well. So I don't know why I'm in this phase right now thinking about souvenir hats from the eighties and the nineties, But I am. Clean those things before you put them on your head. Man, Absolutely, absolutely, what's that growing off your head?

You know what we forgot to mention or forgot to talk about. Is any updates from between the last episode and this episode? Anything exciting come up for you between then and now like that pertains the previous episodes. I don't think so, And if there is, it's probably something that I'm saving for our Christmas episode. That makes sense.

Yeah, because last time we talked about our journey to Clovis and stuff. I don't really have anything new. I might, but if I do, it's I know. I've gotten a couple things, but those will be talked about on our holiday. Special revealed at a later date.

Yeah, I've got to start making my list of crap that I've bought this year. Having a show like this does not help with us and our drive to collect, that's for sure. And hopefully it doesn't help you guys either. That's right. Hopefully you'll get out there, be inspired.

And buy some micro nots and whatever else. That's right, And Shepherd Micronos grab a couple. So what are you bringing to the table this episode? Well, mine is not related at all to yours, but it is in my mind because right around the time that I was starting to get into this what you just talked about, those plastic helmets and baseball collectibles, I had just gone through my nineteen eighty nine Batmania phase with the Batman movie having come out, and I was, you know, recollecting Batman comics and I really got in deep with that stuff. You know, this was kind of a really, really crazy time for me because I was just grabbing onto what was being fed to me through the pop culture machine.

I guess right around this time, Bo Jackson was a huge sports figure. Anything that he was doing I was interested in partially because of my stepfather, and you know, and those plastic helmets was showing up on my little shelf. And nineteen ninety Dick Tracy hit and I just I went crazy. I went from Batmania and entered into Dick Tracy to Dick Mania, exactly. Went from Batmania to dick Mania.

Oh you set that up for me so well. It doesn't even end there. I mean, you know, as like people in the toy community talk about Dick Tracy and their things that they picked up, it's always like, here's another Dick pic for you, And so it's like Dick Tracy will never it will never end as far as inappropriate jokes going, but as it should be, as it should be right, because that's part of who we are. From Touchdom picture. Let's go big Caprise, Prune Face, mumbles, lips, Manless.

And the Blank are out to get the greatest detective of all time. I'm riding out. I want him. Nobody touches Tracy but me, Tracy Tracy, Chasey, do. You mind if I call you when it's time to quite crime?

He's your man, Warren Batty. Is Dick Tracy ready to beg that movie was announced, I was already reading starlog and movie magazines and cine Fantastic, and it was piggybacking off of movie nerds being super excited about the special effects, the practical special effects in Batman nineteen eighty nine and the makeup effects for the Joker. I guess Dick Tracy could best be described as Batman on steroids. All the stylized cinematography and art direction was over the top. This special effects makeup for all the villains was over the top, as it had to be because the villains that were created for the Chester gohouled comic strips going back to the thirties were all super weird villains.

Most of them. Were disfigured in some way or another. Disfigured in some way or another exactly like exaggerated characteristics, so much so that they were mutated. And I love that, and I love that they had gone all out to recreate these villains with special effects makeup. I believe it even earned an Academy Award for Special Effects Makeup in Art Direction, which makes sense because that's just a spectacular movie to watch.

The quality of the writing and everything else is up for debate, but it's such an interesting movie to watch. I'm going to talk about the movie itself in a little bit. But there's one thing I remember from the movie, and I'll mention it when you talk about the movie. So yeah, mind me. Yes, yeah, I don't step on your toes with that, because I've got a lot of stuff here.

You might mention it, so if you do, I won't won't bother. But alrighty, one thing about the art direction that always kind of stuck out to me. That's good. I'm glad you're going to bring it up. I went headfirst into this.

I didn't have any interest in Dick Tracy. Up until nineteen ninety. I was aware of Dick Tracy. I thought it was cool because I read comic strips and we mentioned the Planet of the Apes, and I think about this all the time, like, you don't even have to have watched any Planet of the Apes to know Planet of the Apes. And it was sort of like that with the profile of Dick Tracy and the video watch and the villains like flat Top prune Face.

No, is there a prune Face or am I thinking to start. Well, yeah, no, there's a prude Face. Yeah for sure, I thought so, for sure. Prune Face is definitely one of those characters that was just part of our visual history, I guess culture history just there. So I was familiar with it.

And then when Warren Batty announced that the movie was coming out or that they were working on it, when the images started showing up the villains and the color and the set design and all that stuff, I just because of what Tim Burton had already sort of instilled in my brain about styleized set design and art direction, I got really, really really excited. I believe it's right around the time when Nothing but Trouble came out too. That was eighty nine or eighty eight. I think maybe it was ninety, but Nothing but Trouble. I'm looking forward, by the way, to your episode on Nothing but Trouble so fun.

You should go over and listen to the episodes on the Chasing Chevy podcast that Mark's doing with his pals over there, and that's just been a lot of fun. I'm like on pins and Needles, honestly waiting for nothing, but. You got a while, You got a while. We haven't even recorded that episode, so. I know you're not looking forward to it, but I am.

I love that movie, by the way. I don't know if you've ever talked about it, but it's all about the special effects makeup, and I just was super excited about those villains flat Top and Prune Face and crazy actors getting into these characters. Like the cast is unbelievable. I'm just going to read it off. Warren Baby, Seymour Casselle, you and I love Seymour Cassell, Michael Pollard, Love Michael Pollard, He's in there.

Charles Derning, Dick Van Dyk, Madonna, Kathy Bates, Dustin Hoffman, James Kahn, James Kahn. I had forgotten about, actually because I haven't actually watched this movie in ages. And we'll get to that in a little bit. William Forsyth, who I absolutely love. He plays flat Top, Mandy Patinkin of all people, Paul Cervino, Catherine O'Hara, and of course Al Pacino plays the big bad or the almost big bad.

There's another big bad in the movie, The Blank, which is the other big bad, like just a person without a face, I mean crazy. I just was were into all of that. When I went to see the movie, I was a little disappointed because so many of the characters I was looking forward to seeing on the screen, the iconic villains, and some of them were killed off right at the beginning, and like, and some of them didn't have as big a roles as I wanted them to have. And it was, you know, more about Madonna and Warren Batty and that whole thing. There was a showcase for Warren Batty to be cool.

I guess that didn't really fly. Yeah, didn't really succeed. And I don't understand this. I guess I'll get into this now. But the movie is not really available for streaming anywhere.

You can order it on Blu ray or DVD, but the prices are not reasonable and it's been discontinued. It's not on Disney Plus, which is surprising because I believe that for a while Disney owned the rights at least to advertise the film. They had one thing that really that I have fond memories of my family and I went to Disneyland around this time and there was a live show of Dick Tracy. It was super cheesy. But I recently found YouTube videos of that and watched some clips of that really low quality late eighties, early nineties VHS quality, and it's really embarrassing, actually, But I was excited about it as a kid.

So they had a ton of souvenirs at Disneyland at the time. So I'm surprised that Disney can't post it on Disney Plus. There might be a variety of reasons. There's some stuff in there in the movie that is I. Don't think they are concerned about that.

Anymore, Runny, You don't think so. No, Because they're partnered with Hulu. There's all kinds of stuff that you can watch via Disney Plus that's on Hulu. That is, trust me. Ten times worse than what is in Dick Tracy.

Yeah, you're right. The thing I'm thinking about is that when the movie came out, or right after the movie came out, it's about not right after, but about five years after toy collectors, so I haven't gotten into this yet, but there was a run of toys by Playmates came out in nineteen ninety right along with the film. All the villains were there. There was a Madonna action figure spoiler alert, She's the blank, She's the other big bad. It's revealed at the end that action figure was never available in the United States, so it's highly sought after.

It's kind of a grail piece for some people that collected this stuff. But there was one figure that for a while just skyrocketed in price. It was nearly impossible to find, and that was the character the Tramp or Steve the Tramp actually who If you watch the movie, Dick Tracy rescues an orphan from this Tramp character, This evil homeless man had captured him. And actually the description of this character on the back of the card says something along the lines of children are not safe around this man. It was an action figure of a homeless guy who's a kidnapper, and he was taken off of shelves.

He was deemed inappropriate, and therefore if you had the action figure for a while, he wasn't. You couldn't find him for anything less than like fifty five bucks, and that was priced back then. Now you can get him for like three bucks online, which I did have a little box right here I haven't opened yet. Great, yeah, right, a toy. You have a pedophile, that's what so wonderful.

So I can see why there where there were certain issues with that character. It's a rights issue. It has nothing to do with anything inside the movie itself. Guarantee you that. I'm concerned about that because I was just thinking, like how much fun it would be to watch it again.

And I don't know if I'm willing to drop twenty bucks on a DVD just to watch it once. Yeah you're like me that way, Yeah, I know I would rather. I mean, we live in an era where this stuff like, why sit on the rights? Why is Warren Batty sitting on the rights? Why is Warren Baty sitting on the rights?

Why? So have you seen the TCM things that he's done. No, he has to perform as the character, like every ten years. What hold on to the rights. So he has done things on TCM where he is dressed up as Dick Tracy, and I think the last one was a couple of years ago and it might have been during the pandemic.

So it was like a zoom call that he did into TCM as Dick Tracy so that he can retain the rights no of the character. That's incredible. I wish people could see my face right now. That is again surprise. If you don't know this, mister Dick Tracy fan.

Mister Dick guy, I'm not a huge Dick That's the part of this. I'm not a huge Dick Tracy fan like I have never you know, Bobby on the Frenzy if you're listening to this, Bobby knows this. I'm not a huge Dick Tracy fan. I'm a fan of the movie and the fan of all the stuff that happened when the movie came out. And that's part of the reason why I ordered three Little Playmate's action figures here.

I've never read the comics in depth. I didn't even know that there was did you know this either? There was a there was a nineteen sixty six pilot that is like using basically using all the same sets as Batman nineteen sixty six. I think I have heard about this, Actually it. Never aired and never got picked up, but it's basically like the just it's filmed exactly like the Batman television series.

So I didn't know about that until recently. I mean, I haven't had the urgency to try and find videos of the live performance at Disneyland until last week. A little shout out to Bobby Dangerously on YouTube. He's doing this serialized sort of detective noir stories. It's kind of like Dick Tracy, but it's also ventures into the supernatural, like there are monsters and creatures, and it's really really fascinating and it's been pushing that nostalgia button for me to think about Dick Tracy again recently.

And so that's why I'm talking about today, actually because of Bobby's serialized YouTube show, which is which I'm finally able to listen to because it's a podcast now too. So I didn't know about that. I didn't know that Warren Batty was so dedicated to holding onto the rights that he's showing up in what is he in the wheelchair now showing up and doing this, Like, how's he doing this? I just remember when it came up. I think I saw it on Twitter and it's like, have you seen this thing?

Warren Batty dressed up as Dick Tracy. And then I kind of looked into it because of that and was like, Oh, it's a rights grab thing. He has to do it to retain the rights. Warren Batty just let it go. I don't know if he's planning on something bigger.

I mean, my god, if he did another movie, I would hope he would cast somebody else in it, but who knows. Yeah, it'd be like watching Bubba Hotep. It would be like a retirement community Dick Tracy movie. Yeah. I don't know what the reason is behind his retention of the rights, but I know that he does these things to keep.

Them so interesting. Well, you know what I'm going to be watching this happen man. A zoom call with Dick Tracy. That is amazing. You learn something new on Cambridge and with Sean every single time, at least I do.

I am learning from you all the time. Mark, thank you for that. I might as well talk about the one thing that I retained from when this movie came out because I have never watched it. I have zero interest in Dick Tracy. It was interesting to see again, the special effects makeup is great, the villains look wonderful in the film, the set design and the art design, and those primary colors.

So that was his big thing, was that everything had to be like it was in the comics. Yeah, if you know anything about printing, you know that they use primary colors and a mixture of primary colors via the use of half tones to create the other colors. So you've got what red, yellow and blue blue, yep. And so everything has to come from that. And that was his dictate for the look of the film was they had tended to be in primary colors.

And that is the only thing that I have kept in my head about that film. Every time I see or hear anything about Dick Tracy, it's like, oh, yeah, it was shot to look like a comic book in primary colors. Similarly, Sinsity did that too, in a different way, black and white with occasional use of color, just like the comic book. And I though Sinsity is not one of my favorite movies, it's so much fun to watch visually, but that was it. It was super intriguing to me that someone was going that far into the conceptual realm with this making.

The special effects makeup being super exaggerated, and the set design being exaggerated as far as use of color goes, and all of that was super fascinating to me. And the fact that it actually succeeded in the box office and became kind of an event for people was fascinating to me too, that that could actually work. The fact that the Barbie movie worked just blew my mind, Like I get such delight when things like that actually succeed. The artificiality of it, the eccentricity of each shot, the way it's set up, and the color. You say, it's so cool, I mean, interestingly enough, it's what kept me from going to see the movie, the look of it, because I can appreciate that, you know, wanting to have such a narrow view to keep it like the Obviously he's a fan of Dick Tracy.

I mean, why else would you do any of this right? That way? Right? And then the other reason was Madonna. I had no interest in I had seen a couple of Madonna movies in the eighties, and I'm like this scal can't act.

I was not interested mainly because of her. Oh yeah, for sure. There are many elements of the Dick Tracy movie that make it unwatchable for people who appreciate good acting and appreciate good storytelling. I mean, even al Pacino is like almost unwatchable in this movie. Is it's just too much.

William Forsyth, on the other hand, and so many of those other character actors and Dustin Hoffman too, like, do such a great job in that movie, and they'll they're just not being recognized for their small parts and probably won't ever be. Seymour Cassell is awesome in the movie, Warren Batty lackluster, Madonna lackluster, al Pacino cringey, But like all those other character actors that are in it, they're so good. That's really what I want to rewatch the movie for is just for those characterizations of these oddballs, just to be immersed in that stylized place. I really appreciate a lot of Wes Anderson movies, even the more recent ones that I can hardly follow the plot, but I appreciate them for the visual elements and the stylized nature of them.

And Dick Tracy's one of those movies. I just want Warren Batty to chill out, you know, let us watch it again. Yeah, And I don't mean to infer that he's the reason it's not available. As far as a rights issue with streaming, it would be more of who owns like it could be. It may have been Fox, but not everything transfers over in that sale, you know what I mean.

It could have been sold later on to some other company and Disney didn't get that in the Fox purchase or whatever. So I don't I'm not implying that he's holding it up. That's a different thing, you know. His retaining the rights to the character is different than the streaming rights or whatever, and it could be connected. I'm not implying that though, by saying he's doing these stunts to keep the rights.

Well. I hope there's a documentary one of these days, because about. All the stuff we talk about, I hope there's a documentary about one plastic rock balls. I do. I want a documentary about that.

I want to I want to see. I'm willing to sit down and spend my entire morning watching this relay of facts that can open up some of the or expose some of these these things to was. I would love to know the journey of rights for Dick, Tracy, Warren, Baty, Disney, all this stuff like that. It's fascinating to me. How did Disney have the rights for this for that period of time in the nineties.

And it's strange. It's like Time Warner or something owning Marble at a certain point, or this company owning that. You know, the stuff that these mega corporations do and buy and and that means that they own this now is I can't get into all that stuff. It's just too much, you know. I love it.

I don't know why I love it so much. I just love that. I love the drama of it. It's all just money changing hands as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not interested in that. Yeah.

And it's the creative part of it, too, is fascinating to me. The money, the money exchange and the rights exchanging and all that stuff. It's like it's like a soap opera. And then but the creative aspect of all this, making something like this for an audience for whatever reason it might be as a money grab or whatever. But the creation of the stuff is exciting to me, and I don't I haven't been able to find any real in depth documentaries about the art direction of Dick Tracy or and maybe there's something that I just haven't found yet on special makeup effects and stuff like that.

I'm sure it's out there, and I welcome it all. I want it all to be in one place, one epic documentary made by Werner Hersag. I'm going to do a little maybe a little video where I look at these action figures and talk about them a little bit. I'm excited to get them out. I wasn't looking.

Now found me. I've found it hard wrong. I giving above. Spy. You say, oh, you know what you asked me earlier if I had an update, and I totally forgot that I did.

Ah. I have a mia culpa in regard to James Bond, and I think I was a little harsh last time, a little kind of knee jerk reaction in saying that those movies boored the fuck out of me as a kid. In the post production of that last episode, when we had told our stories about meeting Richard Keel and him being Jaws, and I thought, oh, it would be kind of cute to play one of the songs from the two movies he was in, which I did for that episode, and I had totally forgotten that Nobody does it Better was the theme from The Spy Who Loved Me? And I got to say that fucking song rules. I vote for it, and I know it's been called this by certain people.

I vote for it as the best James Bond. So anyway, it was fun to put that clip in there, and it reintroduced me to that song, which is now on my phone. And then I was looking for clips of Jaws and I'm like, wait a minute. He doesn't talk, does he? So I got the one line that he speaks at the end of Moonraker and put that in there, and then I thought, well, shit, I might as well watch these two.

So I watch The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker over a couple of days. They're long movies. Why are all the James Bond movies long? See, that's the other thing. And I don't even know how they showed them on TV because that's the only place I ever saw them, Like, did they edit the heck out of them?

Or were they like three hours? Because they're over two hours. Every James Bond movie is long, yeah, except for the early early ones with Sean Conney music. And there's really no reason for them to be that long. There is a lot of padding and filler in these, and I only watched two of them.

But anyway, The Spy Who Loved Me is great, Moonraker is okay. I don't buy JR. Mora's James Bond. I'm going to put that out there right now, although I do think his fight scenes are good, but as far as the other stuff, like, I'm not buying it. Anyway.

We'll talk more about this whenever you talk about it. Yeah, I did enjoy The Spy who Loved Me quite a bit. Moonraker, like I said, was okay, but it was interesting to me how amazing some of the special effects sequences were and how awful other ones were in the same movie. Absolutely, the green screen work is horrendous, agree, like miniature work, and some of the other things are fantastic. Oh, Moonraker.

The set design, the miniature sets like just over the top gorgeous. Yeah. And then but yeah, it's it's just funny how widely it just like swings up and down, like oh, that's amazing and curly To and Cleo were kind of in and out while I was watching them, but I know that Clio was in the room for I think they kind of got into it. So whenever you do James Bond, let me know because I will probably watch the Roger Moore film. Yes, I'm not watching the Sean Connery films.

I agree that that theme song is fantastic. I think some of the best moments in Bond history are the opening music. Oh well, I got to say thanks to HD because as a kid, those opening credit sequences were like, oh, what's this now? Silhouetted naked ladies? Yeah, and HD though, man, you see a lot more, see a lot more, and it's wonderful.

It is. And the songs are great too. And I know a lot of people will I think a lot of people will fight me on this, but I love the Duran Duran of You to a Kill theme song, and I love that opening sequence, and actually I love those of You to a Kill and Octopusy are two great Roger Moore Bond movies. They're super cheesy and they're a bit of a slog sometimes, but yeah, they're fun. And Christopher walking in a view toful Kill is the villain.

Come on, that's amazing stuff. I do have a lot to say about Bond, and I will be getting to him eventually to all of that, because I did go through a really serious phase of being into James Bond movies, the books. Oh, I know there are super fans. I follow some people on Twitter that are super fans, and I'm like, yeah, it never really clicked for me, but they're not as awful as I kind of made it out. Yeah, they didn't stick for me as a kid.

I watched a lot of them on TV and never rented them, never never kept up with any of that. It was title sequences, the gadgets, the girls, and the songs were pretty much all that made any impact on me. What's so sure? And that was like the girls, the gadgets, and the songs were like what the Roger Moore era was really all about? All of those movies were so steeped in all of that.

The Sean Connery movies are more about aesthetic and I like that. Anyways, there's a lot. There's a lot. Bond is a whole other conversation. Yeah, not to get into all of it, but.

We'll say that for a future. I did want to offer my my mia culpa on that. I'm really happy that you went back and we visited those and had that experience in a different way this time. That makes me happy. So now, when Dick Tracy starts to stream on Disney Plus, because that's not part of theist thing that's happening, you're gonna end up watching.

It's gonna happen to you. You can have a day it's just going to happen, and you're going to try. You're going to watch the first five minutes and you're gonna be hooked. Nope, yep. And so what else did you want to talk about today?

Mark? I have let's see, how should I? I don't have news. I wanted to talk about some upcoming Migo news, which I think has been touched on probably on some of our episodes. And I know that I've mentioned Migos.

I'm not going to talk about them. That's maybe we'll start getting there next sea. But there were some recent news items that the guy's over at Plaid Stallions, Toy Ventures, whatever, Mego Museum. It's all Brian Heyler or Healer however he pronounces his name. Mego is teaming up with Walmart to release these figures from Atlas Comics, which was something in the seventies that I have absolutely no awareness of or anything.

So they rolled that out at New York Comic Coom this last weekend. But in this kind of press release for this, they also mentioned the Marvel Mego figures, which people have been clamoring for ever since Migo the company truly came back back in twenty eighteen. When are you going to do Migo? Mark ment Marvel? Do these guys know anything?

I kind of figured it's not going to happen. Hasbro has a very tight grasp on Marvel stuff, and then of course Disney buys Marvel in the meantime, so they've been working on it and talking to Hasbro, talking to Marvel, and now talking to Disney. So it is happening. Just to give people on here who maybe haven't heard this news, in December of this year, we will get our first Marvel migos. And the thing is is, because it's Disney, they will only be sold at Disney theme parks, in Disney stores, and in their online store.

You will only be able to get them that way. They're not going to be in Target. They are not going to be in Walmart. They are not going to be in any other brick and mortar stores or on other websites like Big Bad Toy Store an't going to have them. Entertainment Earth ain't going to have them.

Nobody else will have them. Interesting. They are releasing them as four packs. So this first set or wave I guess we'll call them, comes out in December and we'll have four figures. Being vague about all this, of course, from what I understand from watching this YouTube video, they are reproductions of original Mego figures.

Fantastic, and I say that because one of the people involved with Migo took his original packaging to them to reproduce. Oh, they could be exact reproductions and they wouldn't be doing that for new figures, right. I started thinking about it, I'm like, well, what were the first four Mego figures that came out for Marvel, And they were Captain America, Spider Man, and then a couple of years later they released a bunch in seventy five, but a lot of them were villains. The two heroes after Captain America and Spider Man were Iron Man and the Hulk. So I have a feeling that first four pack will be them, but I don't know.

This is pure speculation on my part. They didn't indicate that they were going like in order of the Mego releases. It sort of makes sense for me as far as popularity of characters. I mean, how many movies as Captain America had and been in all the Avengers movies, and right they own Spider Man now, he's one of Marvel's most popular characters, so that makes sense. You know, in Iron Man and Hulk are big parts of the Adventurers universe as well, so it kind of makes sense that they would go with those four.

I would be really happy with those four, mainly for the Iron Man and Hulk and Spider Man. Captain America not so much, so we'll see. I'm assuming they're going to be at least one hundred dollars per set, which would be about twenty five per figure. They could even be more, we'll see. Hopefully not.

I mean knowing Disney probably will, especially if they're only available through the online Disney store and the Disney parks. The fact that they're kind of holding on to you know, they're not going to be wholesaling least anybody might make them not have to go so high on price. I mean, since they own the rights and they're going to be telling them themselves good point, it could keep it at the one hundred dollars range. But I would think that twenty five per figures sounds about right to me. If they're eighty, I'll be pleasantly surprised, But I would expect them to be one hundred dollars.

So we'll see. Who knows if I'll even try to get them. And then they already have I believe four more sets set for twenty twenty five. Wow, either four or five. I heard different things like twenty total characters.

That would be five sets of four, but the first set releases this year, so that would be four more next year. I don't know. So it's either four or five more sets in twenty twenty five. I don't even know. Those will have to get into other figures, I believe, because I don't know that they released that many Marvel Maybe they did, including the villains.

I don't know. I'd have to look at my Great Marvel book that I have, more ego book that I have that talks about the whole superheroes line. If you're a Marvel Migo fan, good news is finally coming. I think that's great news actually, because I love the aesthetic of the spine Man and Hulk Migo figures. They're just beautiful.

The Iron Man's awesome too, but those two in particular, I had a I thought it was a pencil topper as a kid. I don't know where I got it from a little rubber Spider Man head that I would just like hold. I'm wanting to know if it was I've seen your You have vintage one, right, or is it the reproduction one? Oh, there haven't been any reproductions. But you have one correct, feel like i've seen one Mego house.

Yeah, yeah, I have like six Migo spider Man. They're all original because there haven't been any reproductions. Ronnie, that's what we're talking about. Well, that's what the thing is. Like, I thought maybe there was like a I remember.

You mentioned there may be bootlegs. Yeah, that's what I mean, the bootlegs. Yeah. I remember seeing the vintage ones at your house, or one of them at least, and thinking maybe I had that little rubber head. It probably was just a Mego head that someone had pulled off.

To have that figure reproduced to match the vintage version would be amazing. Same thing with the Hulk. And it's the simpler figures that I really and we'll get into this at some point, but they're very basic. Hulk and Spider Man are very basic figures. Iron Man and Captain America.

I mean, Captain Erica is pretty basic too, since he was one of the first and they hadn't quite gotten elaborate with their costuming and stuff. Yet he has more stuff. He's got a shield and whatever. Iron Man's a little not fancy, but there's more stuff to the Iron Man costume obviously than the replication that they created for it is a little wonky. So yeah, nice wonky is good.

That's cool. I'm excited. Yeah, so I'm curious to see what I'm curious. That's I think the key word here is I'm not like, oh, finally in thank God, and I'll get whatever they create. It's like, I'm curious to see what they release, first of all, and very curious as to the price point and see how it goes.

And I mean, we have a Disney store here in the mall. I don't know. I'm certainly not going to be trekking back and forth every day to see if they get them here. Well, the Disney Storre has been gone for a bit, oh it has Oh okay, the physical Disney stores. This shows you how often I go to Fashion Fair.

They've been dismantled. Okay, but a lot of that stuff is available online. Yeah. I've looked at the Disney online store for stuff in the past and just I've never purchased anything from there, but you know, I know that they've got all the Star Wars and Marble and all this other stuff, and I think, oh well, I could probably get it from there. Like you mentioned when we were talking before, the Hulk, that kind of retro style three and three quarter.

They probably have those. They probably do. Speaking of that, I'm definitely I saw somebody pick one up from Ross the other day, probably for three ninety nine, and I'm definitely going to be going through a Ross this week on one of my lunch breaks to try and find one of those, because I love that retro style Hulk design. I have the gray one, but I definitely want the green one. Some of that stuff's so cool and I'm glad that they're doing that and I'm glad that they're honoring the original Migo design for that, especially with the packaging too.

It's too bad it's December not November, because the family and I are going right before Thanksgiving to Disneyland. M Yeah again from what I called from that video, Marty Abrams, the president of Migo, will be at I think Disneyland to release the figures sometime in December. Maybe it'll be right around Thanksgiving, and it'll be early before, right before December to launch it out, and it'll be perfectly timed with my trip there. And if it is, Mark, I'll get you some signed Migo figures. Okay, I don't think that's going to happen, but here's the pipe dreams.

Yeah, that's exciting. That's cool. Yeah, so we'll see how it plays out. I'm curious, Like I said, yeah, me too. The World's greatest superheroes, Captain of America, Fighting in Justice, the World Over, Fighter Man, the Weird World Iron Man, and that fantastic Green Giant Super Year Old.

The last thing that I'm going to mention today is something I haven't mentioned before, but it kind of goes back to our local locales. Since Disneyland has popped up a few times in conversation today. I thought I'd just talk a little bit about this thing that Fresno had to offer in the early nineteen hundreds, and that is Zapp's Park. Remember that bar over there on ol of And yeah. That's what I thought you were going to talk about.

I'm like, really, okay, Yeah. Well the bar. I played a couple of shows at that bar. There was a bar on Olive and Blackstone called Zapps Park back in the nineties and the early two thousands. I've played some shows there and for a while there was a music venue and Fresno we could see punk shows and whatever.

Actually, they let bands play there of all different genres. They had this mural on the wall that was sort of this anomalous nighttime city view, and I was like curious about what because it didn't quite look like Fresno, but it did. I had heard something about it was named after an amusement park that Fresno had, So I did a little research back then, like the internet was still new, so it just did minimal research on this. More recently, I did a lot more and right around in that area was between the years nineteen what was it nineteen four to nineteen seventeen, there was a genuine carnivalesque amusement park right near the Blackstone and Olive area, and it was huge and it had the first, I'm going to say one of the first to be on the safe side roller coasters in all of California, in fact, all of the West Coast.

And it had swimming basins that were just these giant ponds, and it was just a really interesting, cool place. It predates my grandparents, so they had only heard about it. I'd asked them about it, and they had heard about it, but they didn't get to experience it. Nineteen oh four to nineteen seventeen, that's a long time ago for California, right, Yeah. A person who used to work in my office just got a job working for the parks department at Fresno, and I was like, if there's anything you take from knowing me, it's this, talk to them about recreating this as far for Presno, because it would be amazing for the Central Valley to have an amusement park.

And it must have been so much fun back then for to go on roller coasters and merry go round and ferris wheel and take little boats out onto the pond and jump off of decks and swim and it must have been so much fun and what an interesting aspect to Fresnoe history that isn't talked about very much these days. I think we had at home when I was growing up one of pop Leval's books of photos, and I remember seeing pictures of it in that. Yep. That's where all the photos come from, is those pop Laval history books. And thank goodness for pop Laval because like in many ways that information just wouldn't exist.

Yeah, it's interesting to look at those and to think of, like what's there now? And sometimes it's hard to reconcile the difference between the pictures and what you know is there now? And Yeah, Blackstone and Olive, I mean, just think about what's on Blackstone and Olive now. Nothing great. Yeah, Blackstone and Olive is not a great place.

There's some interesting architectural elements of that area. So if you like drive around that area, there's like where the canal goes through that intersection, there's this I don't know the best way to describe this shanty town esthetic happening right where the canal and this building that overhangs a little bit. It's really fascinating old architecture there that still exists. But it ain't a good part of town. It's not pretty to most folks just driving through.

And it would have been right on the outskirts of the downtown area as they were building that up. It would have been the northernmost part of Fresno actually, And when my grandfather went to Fresno High that was the northernmost part of Fresno, and they said you could just look out and just see fields and fields and fields. Now it's all built up, and it has been for a very very long time. So I don't know, for those of you who are from the Fresno area, if you don't know about Zapp's Park, it's a really cool element of our history. Part of me yearns for something like that for President's we kind of should have.

I know that story Land and Playland are really struggling in substantial ways. Roading Park is probably the closest thing we have to that. It's had its ups and downs over the years. Again, not a great part of town. It's not a great part of town.

It's had a lot of issues with people behaving badly in there, and but the zoo. The zoo has improved and improved and improved over the years, which gives me hope. The Zoo's pretty awesome. I'd like to talk about the zoo down the line as well. Someone that has money and power and presnel, you should bring Zaps Park back.

Name it Zaps Park, make it bigger and better. Put it somewhere that's. Not Ronnie pipe dream. Another Ronnie pipe dream. That's like what drives me.

I don't know if anybody can tell that from listening to this show, but like those pipe dreams really really keep me going. They're going to get on that right after that aquarium opens. It's exactly where I was headed with this right now, Like we're probably never going to get the aquarium, but if we do, hey, you know what, I will be there on opening day. It can build Zap's Park right behind that. For that would be amazing.

I want to be part of the planning committee. By the way, if anyone's thinking about doing this. Driving back from that good target that you've clued me in on the way out on Herndon in ninety nine, driving back to my house from there, and when I did it with Kurlida and Cleo. Last weekend. I was like, this used to all be fig orchards, by the way, mentioning the outward growth in the northern growth of the town.

It still happens, and it's nothing but house developments and that big shopping center which I didn't even realize there was a fucking regal cinema in there. Oh yeah, there's a cinema. It's like, oh my god, this place is huge. The Ramen place that we go to, Hayashi Ramen over there on Fowler and Herndon. They opened up a new one over there too.

Yeah, and there's five below. There's a ross, there's a target. There's all kinds of of out there. But the parking lot and the architecture is so bland, yes, that for anyone driving through would just pass it by and not give it a second thought. There's nothing pleasing about that area.

In fact, I'm the only one in our family that likes to go out there. Yeah, and I mainly because of that target. I found some cool things that that ross too, by the. Way, it does not draw you in. It's just this big long line of stores.

Yeah. And then some throughout the parking lot are a lot of the eateries and stuff, and it's yeah, it's a weird I mean it was busy when we went, but most people were going to Target. Yeah, and there was some kind of craft fair or something going on in the parking lot as well, so they do that about once a week. Two. That was where we used to go party in the figs.

All that land was orchards and now it's all gone for what for ugly homes and. Ugly homes, no amusement park, no aquarium, all boring parking lots with hardly any trees. By the way, Yes, in the summer, it's torture actually to go there and walk around, and it's not a friendly place to shop. And that's probably part of the reason why that Target is a good destined for toy collectors, because there probably aren't a lot of toy collectors in the present area that feel like driving out to that ugly parking lot. I don't know, yea, what do I know?

I will say on the way to the Bay Area for our trip this last week when I found the Chase cookie Monster, which you can watch that video on my YouTube channel now a little plug. When we were driving out there, we stopped at the los Banos. That's my other favorite target. Just remarkable things, remarkable things. When I go there, I'm so sad.

I don't have a lot of money to spend, but it's good. It keeps me in check. But it's nice to know that there are targets out there that do carry a lot of cool toys because sometimes when we go to the regular when I go to the regular targets we go to, it's just like where is everything? Yeah? True, true, true.

So Zapp's Park people, if you have money, you're sitting on a fortune and you're looking for something to do, make an amusement park for the Central Valley for Ronnie, for me, for me, So Mark, any other final thoughts, I. Just wanted to put it out there that in December, much like last year, we will have two episodes. So our normal episode, which I think will be episode twenty three because this is episode twenty two yep will come out on the first Tuesday of December, which I believe is the third, and then our holiday special where we talk about all the crap we've bought over the year, will release on Christmas Eve, so three weeks later. Since that's a Tuesday. I just figured, oh, well, that's perfect, so you will be able to listen to it when you're driving disgruntledly to your in law's house.

You's going to cheer yourself up by hearing us talk about all the stupid shit we bought over the year. That's so true. And also, i'll you post Halloween everybody, because Halloween will have just happened. Yeah, one of my favorite times of year. I know Mark, you appreciate it too.

And we finally have good weather here in the Central Valley, thank goodness. So I hope you were all. You all had a safe and fun Halloween. I'm gonna make a Bob's Big Boy pumpkin. Oh that's genius.

I got a stinsel online and I'm gonna do it, and I hope I don't fuck it up. Yeah, that's a good idea. I kind of think carefully about that too. We've already done our Halloween decorating, but carbon pumpkins. We haven't done that for a while.

I should. That's inspirational. Thank you, Mark. Mm hmm, all right, tick us out, dude, All. Right, so remember until we meet again, have fun, stay weird, and keep collecting.

And keep listening. And if you listen to our stupid show. We might hit a thousand plays finally by the end of the year as well, so that's amazing. That's that's big. We'll get three episodes in for the name of the year, so it could just happen.

That's awesome. That's cool. Cambridge or Sean is a weird Way media podcast. Wow, this has just been such a pleasure. I'm such a lucky boy.

I can't wait to go home.