Episode 8: Deal of the Century (1983)

Weird. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Chasing chevy Chase Cast. I am your host, Christache from the Culture Cast, and I am joined by my two good friends. All the way from the projection booth Mike White. Just a little touch up God.

And all the way from a wake up Heavy a horror movie podcast, and boy, this movie is a horror RK. Begley. This place is hotter than Dolly Purton's Mini pad. Wow, boy, I'm so I'm so glad you guys put in a lot more effort into what you just said than chevy Chase did into his acting or voiceover. Because yes, on this show, we talk about movies that star Chevy Chase his vehicle.

Films from a certain time in a certain place, essentially from foul Play to National Lampoon's Vegas Vacation. This is smack dab in the middle of that. This is nineteen eighty three's William Friedkin directed I Think He's as Confused as we are. William Friedkin directed based on a screenplay by Paul Brickman. Yes, Paul Brickman, the gentleman who wrote the screenplay for Risky Business and directed Risky Business.

I'm talking about nineteen eighty three's Chevy Chase, Gregory Hines and Sigourney Weaver comedy question Mark Deal of the Century. So Deal of the Century is what Lord of War would be if Lord of War was bad. I mean that's I mean, that's maybe being a little hyperbolic. But Chevy Chase play a arms dealer who happens upon a deal that allows him to I guess, get the contract where a big sale of drones to a Central American country. Look, it's not that I'm struggling with the plot.

Yeah, it's not that I'm struggling with the plot. But the plot of this movie doesn't matter at all. But all you need to is Chevy Chase plays an arms dealer who happens upon a arms deal that is not his. It is the is a man whose wife is played by Sigourney Weaver, who shows up throughout the movie. And then Gregory Hines plays a character who's no longer wanting to be an arms dealer and wants to be.

Er Christian. Yeah yeah, born again Christian. Yeah boy. If this doesn't sound like high jinks galore, I don't know what does, Mike. I'm gonna kick it to you first.

Uh, what did you think. I don't know if I had ever seen this movie before. I think we talked maybe on the folluol Play episode way back when that I used to get this and as defense mixed up because of the white guy, black guy on the cover and also talking about defense and weapons and those kind of things, I have to imagine that best defense is Susan Kane compared to this. This is the cane from Sinnacia in to this point. Oh, this was just wretched, and we touched a little bit before we started recording.

I read the script for this, the Paul Brickman script, which some people give credit to Bernard Edelman for this, and I can only imagine that it's the Bernard Edelman that wrote Dear America, Letters Home from Vietnam, because this would have been kind of along the lines of that time period that was eighty seven. This camp comes out in eighty three, and well, it was odd because there were a lot of movies that this reminded me of that were right around the same time. But with Edelman up his bibliography, could not find any books or articles or anything where he wrote about defense contractors. And defense contractors are right before being made fun of and just there is a lot of potential humor that could be in this movie, but it is handled so poorly and so wrong.

And that goes all the way back to this Brickman script, and we'll get into some of the ins and outs of this stuff, but my god, the script is a freaking mess. And what you read in that script is almost verbatim on screen. So shame on you, Billy Friedkin for not going in and doing a rewrite of this because it was a fucking mess. So anyway, I hated this movie, absolutely hated it. What about you beg Lee.

I don't think anyone would confuse this movie for a movie that's good at this. Point first time watch for sure for me, and like you, Mike, I would confuse it with best defense, just based on the poster image, and I warned. I always asked my family, do you want to watch this one? And I said it's got ten percent on Rotten Tomatoes, blah blah blah. Then I mentioned I mentioned the cast, and they're like, okay, we'll watch it, based mainly on Sigourney Weaver.

So that was their first mistake and so we plugged it in, turned it on watched it, and my wife at one point was like, well, it's not that bad, and I'm like, okay. Oh wow, all right, it's part of the It's not that bad club. And I didn't want to veheminently disagree with her, But at that point I was like, man, this is something is off with this, and it was. I kept thinking of Doctor Strangelove and how that absurdity in that movie works so perfectly, and I'm like, this is this is what this needs. They're not going there, it's not absurd.

They're playing it too straight, but yet they want it to be funny. But everybody's kind of playing it straight other than the few Hey we need to have Can I add something to the program here? We need to start counting. And I should have done this a long time ago. I didn't realize it was a thing.

How many times Chivy Chase says gesuntight in a movie punchline, Zake, this has got to be the fourth or fifth time he's done that in a film. So anyway, Yeah, it's a mess. It's a tonal mess. It's uh. The editing is bizarre.

They I'm sorry, Billy, but the direction was just boring. Lots of static kind of wide shots of people talking to each other about uninteresting things, and you know, I don't know. Wallace Sean is wasted in the film. Literally, yeah, then is address you and wasted Wallas Sean is a treasure that should be you know, coveted by everyone. And then here he yeah, totally wasted.

What are you doing here? And it's not very clear that that's Sigourney Weaver's husband until or Chevy doesn't understand it, but it's pretty obvious based on his narration that she's married to a guy that's half her size and twice her age and Waiala Sean fits the bill perfectly, but he doesn't make that connection until much later. Anyway. Oh sorry, I'm rambling on here, Chris. What did you think of this?

Oh? Yes, please continue to ramble. I'm not going to stop you. Uh oh. This is one of the most criminally unfunny things I've ever seen to be not fun and save forced because we did this willingly.

It's like anyone was forcing bamboo steaks under my fingers at the same time. But this is the cinematic equivalent of waterboarding. I mean, this movie is I don't know what's worse the fact that it's directed by William Friedkin, or it's the fact that William Friedkin left his name on Like if I had been the director of this, I would have done everything in my power to be like, take my name off Alan Smithy. I don't care who directed it, just don't let them put my name on it. Yeah.

Look, for as much as I love Friedkin, for as much as we can joke about him telling Nicholas Whinding refnue, I got to go fuck a rolling doughnut off of a hill. Yo, dude, you made this movie like this is why he never talks about it, just because he doesn't, you know what they say though A can't talk about anymore because he's dead. But be also, it's kind of hard to talk about a movie that you just don't make, So just don't make it. And it's shocking because to your point, Mike was expecting to read the script and somehow it'd be different. Nope, No, because then it's like, Okay, it's somewhat defensible because you're like, well, he started off on good footing and it just got lost in translation.

No, there was no translation for to get lost in This is exact like I don't know. You know, William Friedkin is someone who directed like one of my favorite movies, The Exorcist. I mean, it's like, it's it's a It is a classic piece of film filmmaking. It is a piece of filmmaking that has been aped so many times at this point, and yet nobody can really do it as well as he did. And yet he also directed what is one of the worst movies I've ever watched for anything I've done.

And Guys, I hate to say this, but this is like the second time this has happened on this show. This is I mean, what's so sad? And Mike we were talking about this. We did Francis Weber movies. When comedies are bad, it's like, oh, it's pain, It's the fucking worst.

Like a bad horror movie can be somewhat salvageable, like, oh, you know, it's fun for how ridiculous it is, or at least some interesting kills in a Yeah, in a fucking comedy. If there's no laughs, what are we here for? Like that's what you're there for. And if there are none, uh boy, somebody's gonna be leaving the theater disappointed. And I can imagine going to see this movie in theaters and just wanting to fucking wanting to riot what I left to be, Like they took my money, they took I mean, like this it feels like robbing people.

This movie is to say, it's an affront is being nice, Like there are scenes that just end Chevy Chase is. I don't use letterbox, but when I do, I just like write one word and one word, one sentence. But it's not anything mean, it's just like just the feelings like I almost wanted to put in my review, I alluded to it like this reminded me of Chevy Chase and O Heavenly Dog is just thank god the narration wasn't throughout them, because when he narrates in this movie, it's just the same. It's the same, just like here I am being forced to be an actor again and do adr Like, Wow, life must be hard for you, Chevy Chase. People backing up a fucking brinkstruck to your house with money to do his ass movies like this and you can't even be bothered to really show up.

Eh. I guess that speaks to what everybody else thought about this movie, even the people making it like that the poster alone with Gregory Hines and Chevy Chase thumbs up and Sigourney Weaver should all been thumbs down, all three of them, and I would have understood exactly what their feelings are in this movie, because watching it, it's made very clear everybody's either phoning it in or couldn't be bothered to give a shit. Well, even just the pacing of this movie, and again goes back to the screenplay where you know you're watching it, you're I don't remember how far into this movie before Chevy Chase even shows up, And then you're so far into this movie before uh, Sigourney Weaver shows up.

Well, I guess they show up right around the same time. Yeah, and then the yeah when they finally connect later on. But then Gregory Hines as well, he takes forever to show up, and then I just have to bring it up right now because I don't want to wait. Richard Libertini. I love Richard Libertini, guys, you know, like while I love him so much, and his character is introduced at exactly the wrong time in this movie, because when you introduce him so late in this film, you think that he's going to be a major.

Part of the finale of the film. He has absolutely nothing to do with this movie. He shows up for one scene and that's it. And the way that they build to that scene and the way that you think, like, oh, well, this is going to play into it. No, you could cut that entire thing out and it would not make a difference to this But by putting it into that third act exactly where they put it is exactly the wrong place to put.

That scene could have been earlier, could have been out of the movie, maybe even as a final like teaser at the end. I don't care, but it was just absolutely the wrong thing to do. And this movie does the wrong thing so many times. There are so many questions, like I understand, I understand comedy, and I understand there are times where you do outrageous things in order to get a laugh, But then there are times where you know in this world that you have built for us. When Chevy Chase is showing off the weapons to these guys near the beginning of the movie, Okay, that's great, but when he actually uses the and I know it's not a Bazuka but a Bazuka like weapon to shoot a jeep, that is obviously a military jeep down on the street and blow these guys back through a couple doors.

It's a funny visual, but it makes absolutely no sense for him to be doing that as part of this arms deal. And that's what this movie excels in, is moments that just don't make any fucking sense. I mean, I alluded to a little touch up for your flame job. We'll talk about that later, but I could not wait to talk about Libertini and just how incredibly awful that placement of that scene lot I was. When when you waste Richard Libertini in your movie like fuck You is really like I don't want to like mark you alluded to in the opening here, like we may have been dismissive of movies that Chevy Chase was in in the past.

Maybe not dismissive, but maybe a little hard on him. This movie deserves it. Like I went and looked because again curiosity killing the cat and all that, So I went and looked at what else was out the weekend of November fourth of nineteen eighty three. So the film that walked away with the box office was deal of the century. It made three and a half million dollars at the box office that we want at about three thousand dollars per theaters on average.

The next film was Never Say Never Again, Oh God, followed closely by shockingly Richard Pryor Here and Now The Big Chill and All the Right Moves and then The Dead Zone and the Right Stuff, followed closely by the Austerman Weekend Educating Rita, and then ironically at number ten is Mister Mom but at eleven all better movie. Although man, that's what it was, a very ironic, well easter momb that's really ironic at eleven, making eight hundred thousand dollars risky business. Yeah, those weren't all opening weekends though. Right, no, no, no, no, But Deal of Centuries was opening weekend, right. Yeah, that was back when movies would stick around for a long time.

I know you know that, Mark, and I know you know that, Chris. But for our listeners back then, yeah, you could be open for weeks and weeks and weeks, not one of these like in and out of the box office within you know, a month. It was more like months that you could have this. So yeah, having two Paul Brickman movies out at the same time kind of makes sense, but some of those are great movies. I love Educating Rita.

There's some really good titles in there. So oh man, I love mister molm Yeah, oh, mister Mom is fucking fantastic. And yeah, I love the connection there because as soon as the one actor shows up, Graham Jarvis, I was just like, where do I know that guy? From? Oh?

I remember him talking about fish on a commercial. And then I'm like, okay, there we go, mister Mom. I got it. Well. It was a little interesting that he's also in Parents and that fucking music from Parents in there to my daughter and I'm like, hey, if she watched that with me back when we did that episode, Chris.

It feels like a lifetime ago now, but that was like six six months ago. To answer your question, Deal a Century that was its opening weekend. Richard Pryor's Here and Now had been out for two weekends, and the movie that was the close second, Never Say Never Again, had been out for over a month. So I'll say there's no way it beat a James Bond movie. Yeah, but that James Bond.

That's a say that that's a James Bond movie. That was Speaking of films, that don't deserve people being diplomatic about it. That may be one of them. Never say never again. That's the for those of you that don't know, that's the Sean Connery Came Back for Money movie, and it has nothing to do with any of the other James Bond movies literally, So it feels kind of apropos that this is the movie that is competing with it at theaters, because that's the only way this movie could beat a James Bond movie is if if it was that specific James Bond movie and.

Almost Hill went out for a month, right, well, I was being reminding you mentioned Lord of War, and of course that's a way better movie about armsteelers. I was thinking of things like stripes with that RV and that came out a couple years prior to this. Also, the same summer nineteen eighty three was the summer of Blue Thunder, and while they were talking about the drone technology that they have with the Peacekeeper, I was thinking of that advanced helicopter that they had in Blue Thunder, which was again such a better movie than this drones I know. I was actually kind of surprised. I'm like, wait a minute, what year.

Was this, yeah, nineteen eighty three. Yeah, not thinking about drone technology in nineteen eighty three really like or at all. I mean, it is always a little shocking to sear something so contemporary being model. Yeah you mentioned in this movie. I want to throw up a little defense for Billy friedket Oh, here we goes this kind best defense.

Yeah, yeah you you you got one shot here man, don't miss it is so you know, who knows? This comes after Cruising, which I don't think did very well at the months. There were so many protests about that. And I don't think he I mean, I don't want to put words in his mouth or anything, but I think that took a lot out of him. And I believe this was just a.

Job for hire. Pay the bills because what's his next film? His third masterpiece? If you asked me. So in in In Sorry, that's my only defense.

It is the gays false. I'm just kidding. I know you weren't saying that, but you're totally right. Like I mean, for me, Reid Kid is a director that's like hot or cold, and he's a great director, but even great directors make bad. Movies like he's got Oh, he's got three masterpieces, a couple of really solid films, and some mediocre films, some of which I enjoy, and then this.

I think I haven't seen his full body of work, but I would got to say, I've got to say this is probably at the bottom. I think this is considered to be his worst film period. I am curious when you say his masterpieces, because for me, it's The Exorcist, Sorcerer and Live It to Live and Die in l A h. Are you okay? Because I know some people love the French Connection.

Oh yeah, yeah, it's a that's one of the ones like Cruising to me, which are I mean, they're good. I'm not going to argue that they're not good movies. I mean, Cruising is a is an oddity, but it's interesting and I enjoy it. It's probably isn't the correct word French Connection. As far as heist movies go, It's not one of my favorites.

I'd rather watch something like The Taking of Telling one, two, three over and over again, which I've done, oh yeah, or The Hot Rock or some you know, some the ones, some of these heist movies, if you can call that, I heist movie French connection, But I most. Yeah, it's never really hit, and I think it's partly due to Gene Hackman in that film, which I know is kind of not cool to say since he won the Oscar for it, But isn't he the reason you watch that movie? Well, Popeye Doyle, it's a weird character though I had old Yeah, the you ever pick your feet and Poughkeepsie line like all that. Yeah, Yeah, he's an interesting character. I've never seen it.

That's one of the movies I've never seen. I've never seen the sequel, which I don't think Freak had anything to do with. Yeah, years ago, random piece of trivia in case anybody ever asked you, yes, the yes, the yes. In fact, the fried Chicken joint Popeyes is named for Gene Hackman's character Yes in The French Connection, which is actually. A pop by the Sailor.

Yeah. Actually fucking insane, it's you know, I think Friedkin for me is kind of like Ridley Scott, like your mileage with him is going to vary, and his involvement in the project does not necessarily mean it is going to be like somehow better for his involvement. Like sometimes, like we've already alluded to, he in. I don't think Freedkin's phoning it in. I mean again, like, what does that even mean?

What does that look like? I think it speaks volumes that he did not speak volumes about this movie, given the voluminous way he would talk about everything else he worked on, and the way that he would defend the things that he worked on. And I mean again, as someone who again, like we've already talked about, made a movie that is in the National Registry like it's in It's it's in the Library of Congress. The Exorcis is for good reason. Normally better judgment is given with something like this, like, like you've already alluded to, Mike, I think it was so important that we got to see the script for this movie, because normally, when I sit down to a movie this unfunny, I wonder, like, well, it just must have been funnier on the page, like it must have worked better on the page.

No, And and you know, again we haven't. We've kind of danced around the issue. And I think one of the biggest issues with this movie the reason we're talking about it, which is Chevy Chase. Folks, what what what? Why are you so uninterested in?

What? Was going on Chevy Chase, like just don't understand it, can't be bothered to care. He could have really made this a good role. You know, this hot whole idea Eddie Months, so you got just even the name Eddie Months. You know.

It's like he talks at one point about how he doesn't sell used cars, and which is funny because his brother sells you cars. He ends up selling used cars. But he's just like, no, no, I'm not a used car salesman type person. But he should be. He should be that, you know, wheeling delon.

You know, let's get you into this mine and these grenades, and you know you could he should be like fucking Stephen Prince from from from taxi driver. You know, oh you can go and and hammer and nails with it all day long and take it out and shoot in or you know, straight into here. When he's given those minds to the the I don't know Sandinista basically, I mean like he should have been like, you know, oh yeah, go home, take these, you know, play with the kids, or something like that. He should have been like a real fucking cynical asshole, who's selling these guns and weapons and just like fetishizes this stuff. It should have been Nikolaus Cage, but he's not, and he's so is just missing the mark completely.

That voiceovers should be more hard boiled or ironic. There should be something to that. I mean, you even get to the guy who's like the General Lissimo character, and speaking of Richard Libertini, it should be the guy from Fucking It should be Richard Libertini from the in Laws, like it should be that Banana Republic type of guy here, and it just makes no sense. And then like they talk about like Viva Libertad and it's like he know, he says to the guys, he's selling to both sides, but I don't even know if the movie really gets that across, that he sells to both sides, and that he should basically be like Yo Jimbo, who's like arming both sides of these and just taking money, money, money from everybody.

But like he gets one bucket of money and then it just goes up in flames, and it's like, no, it should be Maybe that's the irony of it is that he keeps getting paid, but every single time he turns around, the money gets stolen or lost or blown up or something, but just make it interesting. And I know that's a lot for me to ask a movie, but it's like, please give me something to care about. And then you, I mean, for you, the problem might be Chevy Chase, but for me, the problem is Gregory Hines and what the fuck is this character doing? Realvie my god. And I want to say there was one more scene of him in the script where like he steals a plane because he's vary into flying.

He loves the freedom of flying. But you know, if it steals a plane at the beginning, not at the end. And because when we're introduced to him again super late in the proceedings, it's just like, oh, I'm thinking about giving my life over to Jesus. Like right away he hits you with that stuff, and you're like, Okay, what's the problem with this guy? And then he is obviously and not I'm not bashing religion though I love to do that, he's obviously mentally unstable.

Just with that flamethrower scene, what the fuck is going on with that? And then it feels like they didn't have him come back to do adr. It literally feels like they took bits of that scene and a few other lines to put for ad R when he's flying the plane at the end of the movie. This just felt like a fucking mess. Yeah, every you know, like you're like, let's talk about Gregor Head's Like, man, do we have to because like I didn't get it.

Yeah, I'll get it. Yeah, And I'm with you. It's it's a waste of his time, and it's in in conjunction, it's a waste of our time because like, why is this Like I'm not saying Chevy Jay's character is interesting, but somehow Gregory Hines's character is so uninteresting. What Chevy Chase on screen? Please, because I don't want to see any more of whatever it is he's selling.

Make it some sort of thing between him and Sigourney Weaver, because there's nothing. There's nothing between those two characters. Sorry, Mark, I cut you off. That's okay. I was just gonna say I expected Hines to be a foil now for the deals like to undermine Chase because he's had this change of heart and he's going to these Baptist meetings in a house and getting baptized in a pool, and he's going to sabotage the plans, which I guess is sort of what he does at the end in the airplane.

But they're partners. This should be a problem for their partnership other than Chevy's going, what are you doing? Whatever his name is in the film, Ray, What are you doing? Ray? What are you doing?

Ray? That's all that's the only tension between the two. He doesn't understand what he's doing. And instead of Gregory Hines being a foil other than the only foil that chevy Chase has is himself in the film. And I guess Sigourney Weaver in a way, but what I don't know what her loyalty is either.

Oh yeah, what a waste of a character. Again, You're like, is she trying to manipulate chevy Chase? At first, yes, she is, yes, and then she seems to get with the program way too easily, and like she settles into this role of I'm going to whine and dine in sixty nine the General Lissimo so that we can seal this deal. And it was offensive to gotta tell you that was that seemed was. A It was.

It was very offensive. I mean, just like he expects her to sleep with this guy, and she just is like Okay, I'm like, what, like there's a little hesitation, there's a little thing in there about like, you know, oh, I feel bad for sending you to do that, but it is so inconsequential to this movie that should have been like an emotional core to this that you know, he is so desperate to make this deal. He does everything, He betrays Ray, he sells out Missus Devoto, all this stuff. She is the least grieving widow that I've ever met in my entire life. I have no idea why she married Wallace Shawn's character, what she's doing with this stuff.

She's a conniving bitch through half of the movie and then goes with the program for the rest of it. And there's no there is no chemistry between her and Chevy Chase whatsoever in this whole thing. I mean, she she makes Dana Barrett's character and Ghostbusters, you know, look like she's so compassionate and like really connects with Bill Murray what you and it doesn't Like I'm always so surprised in the second movie when they have a kid together, because I kept thinking she's going to drop him like it's hot, because there's nothing between them. It's not their kid. Oh it's her kid from another marriage that then Bill Hurry chooses to raise, which is even more unbelievable because Bill Murray and kids.

Really, yeah, those two things go together like oil and uh, I don't know anything else water. I guess I kept I kept expecting that scene with the General Lisimo two because we've got the voiceover dialogue with all the images playing on the TV screen, and I thought we were going to have a shot of them where that's not what they're doing right dialogue, it's but they can't take they can't do that joke. I guess I kept waiting for absurdity and absurd jokes and they just never happened in this And to me, that would have paid off because for one thing, she's not actually sleeping with the guy for you know, Chevy Chase, who's a heel in this movie, and they could have ended with a laugh. Instead, it was just like, I'm disgusted by this.

Why is she doing this? Because it's written that way, that's the only reason why this woman would do this. Right, Well, there's the other scenes of potential comedy, like the peacemaker drone itself not working and you get to see the crew and the guys that are working on this with an uncredited Tracy Walfrid Walter. Yeah, to see Tracy Walters in this the ie talk every time. Every time I see him, I think of you, Begley.

I think you're in that Silence of Lambs episode that we would clip in. I know you don't put clips in these shows, Chris, but you gotta put that clip. I guess I should. I should, just because every time. A book gets in there.

And we'll look first sort of talking though, I was like, where's his accent? You're on the accent well. And then Charles Levin, who we just saw in that gin No Chaser episode of uh yeah, yeah, at least it's a little more calm in this one. By when I saw him, I was like, oh God, something else that wasn't great. I love being reminded of bad things inside of other terrible things.

But like that whole scene of them trying to make this drone work, but I guess they're more concerned about the air condition I'm like, I know, tie in the air conditioning, like there needs to be something there. And then even when they have the one Busty Lady crash champagne, you know, like dedicate the peacemaker. I was like, well, there's your excuse for why it doesn't work. Like this thing should be so cobbled together with Scotch tape and you know, hope and paper clips that anything is going to make it go off. I mean basically it should be like an AD two o nine, And it kind of is an ED two o nine at times, and then other times it's like no, no, it works absolutely fine, but you know, like what, no, like make this thing, make Vince Edwards as striker so obsessive about this and then it has to work.

This also, this movie also reminds me a lot of real genius and this whole thing of like this laser has to work, and we're using this laser and it's actually for a military thing and not for a piece thing. But just like maybe there's something like that in there. Maybe there's like some sort of wire or process that always goes wrong and whenever they hit a certain thing, you know that that process is going to go wrong. But no, there's nothing. Instead, they're worried about the air conditioning.

The second time it just kind of goes off the way it's supposed to. But then destroys this field of other planes. Wow again, I just I'm lummoxed by just how poorly put together this is. So we know IMDb is the source of trivia, so I went on there. I went on there.

Look and God's honest truth, did you guys know that this was, in fact a comedy? Yeah? IMDb is like, this is a comedic film. I was like, Oh, is that what this is supposed to be? That's what they're trying to do with this.

I think the scene of Rayman Zurich selling guns and then Robert David Hall, who's just like super twisted and talking about shooting innocent Pete. I wanted to see that movie of his character. And I know, you know CSI fans will know. I saw him on the the cast list before we started watching. I'm like, oh, the corner from CSI is on here, and I was just waiting for him to show up.

And that character, to me, the guy that gets Obviously the actor didn't really lose his legs in Vietnam, but that character to me was what it would be an interesting movie where this guy gets his legs blown off in Vietnam and then you know, turns into this arms dealer selling these weapons of mass destruction and he's in there for like what a minute? Two minutes? If that? He was the most fascinating character to me. Oh yeah, even though that scene was odd, it was incredibly odd.

And you know that, you know, I mentioned Ed two o nine and that level of irony, or the irony of another Verhoven film with Robert David Hall where he turns around and goes, you know, mobile infant, mobile infantry is what made me the man I am today. And he's got no legs and I'm just like, that is La Chef's kiss to you, Paul Verhoven. Where is that irony here? Man? I mean the whole thing?

Where uh why am I blanking Striker's name? Vinca Edwards is is like, oh, oh well, these drones are great. They never get tired, they don't shoot in their own officers, they don't bleed, you know. I'm like, okay, yeah, this it kind of reminds me of the Ees Corporation talking about making the perfect workers. You know, they don't have a mouth, they have you know, six arms so they can do all these tasks.

And like again, like the irony the doctor strange loveiness of it, the Catch twenty two ness of it. It's like there are hints in there, but it never really realizes what this is. Why would we we have Chevy Chase in our movie. We don't have to tries because he has. To be flippant.

He can't be like Mike was saying, he can't be the car salesman, which I believe Ed Months ed Madman Months in real life was a car salesman. He was. Yes, yes, I guess that's the gag there. That I remember that mostly from porclips now because it was Months' that occurts. Yeah, he got out of the car business.

Then he got out of the car. Never get out of the car. But he doesn't he doesn't play he can I guess he can't play the goofball? Does he ever play the goofball? Yeah?

It is Clark c that's Clark Griswold. Like that's like as much of a goofball as Chevy Chase is willing to allow himself to be. Yeah, but he's still kind of flippant there too. Yeah, well he has to be flippant, like that's the like and that's the thing you just you alluded to. It.

Look at what's on other look at what is on either side of this movie. In his filmography, the Last Movie We Watched, which is ostensibly one of his most famous movies, followed by again I think his second most famous role. Now, I mean, look, I didn't realize that as a as a precocious youngster, me liking Fletch would be me liking the best movie Chevy Chase has ever made. But I guess that ended up being the fucking case, because I haven't seen anything yet that we've watched that can hold a candle to vacation, let alone the next movie we're going to watch. Because the fact that this is in between them, this is the proverbial shit sandwich like complement sandwich good bad beyond belief, and then good on the other side.

Like this chevy Chase is doesn't make this movie better, He actively makes it worse. And again it goes back to this idea, at least for me, of like why are you here not not participating? Like I get that you're a cool guy and being apathetic is cool, but how can you be so apathetic you don't even show up to be in the movie, Like that's a whole, that's a I mean, I'm impressed that they still paid you. But Jesus Christ, I was. Curious and I didn't say it in the trivia and I didn't really look it up, but I was curious to see if he had a real foot injury that required the cast, because.

That gag wasn't so funny to do it. Price in the movie hucked me yu. It is in the script having the cast, so I don't think it was like Richard Dreyfus in The Big Fix or something where they had to work that into it. Yeah, it seemed weird. It was very weird to do that.

And then I think it's supposed to be very funny, and the way that that Freed can shoot it is not funny because the whole thing of them putting a cork in the hole that she shot in the cast the second time, it's like, I think it's a line that he says, is that a cork. I'm like, that should have been the funny part. That should have been a close up boom, put that cork in there, funny sound effect of the quirk going in, nothing, absolutely nothing, And instead it's almost upsetting with the way that the blood shooting out of there. It should have been like the blood shooting out of the guy's nose and modern problems, you know. Right, which I think might be a better chevy Chase.

God, it is, it is. It's It's not that it's not great. It's actually a funnier movie too, which is like an even more of an affront to good senses. I genuinely think that, and I've been we've been getting there this year and some of the stuff that we watch this is similarly to Casina Reale, which we watch for ranking on Bond. This is, without a doubt, one of the worst things I've ever watched to talk about with anybody else.

That is a mainstream Hollywood film, That's the other qualifier that needs to be given. This is directed by William Friedkin, with Chevy Chase and Sigourney Weaver and Gregory Hines, not nineties chevy Chase, like chevy Chase again at ostensibly what would be the height of his power as an actor. He's about to be in his biggest role, effectively his sole vehicle movie that then they would spin off a movie that's not good. But even Fletch Lives makes this like Fletch Lives looks like the fucking mona Lease in compared to this, Like, what's effectively, you know, two gorillas in a fucking pen throwing shit at a canvas and claiming it's art. Like, I just I know why I've never seen this movie now, and I know, like it's self explanatory why this movie is not talked about.

But Freedkin of all people should have written at least something about it in this book. That's like, you know, how much of a glaring emission it is that you don't write anything about it, Pal, Like, come on, now, you have something to say about everything else, but this, What did you just fall asleep for eight months and then wake up? What are you a bear? Did you hibernate? For fuck's sake?

What was the other one? The Guardian? He doesn't talk about either. That's that's kind of a fun, quirky Yeah, I don't want a movie problem with that. Yeah, Like Bug, I mean, those are kind of two of the odd ball ones that I was mentioning earlier.

Bug and the Guardian are weird. I love the Killer. Killer Joe's kind of a comedy, Like Killer Joe is kind of It's like it's as comedic as anything Freed can really make sow itch is to say, like, fucked up you do. Maybe he just can't do comedy. I don't know.

You mentioned the sound effect for the quirk, and I was kind of surprised to hear the boying is down to falls. These bulk things were out of roll. Yeah, I mean when the yeah, the sound effects around the peacemaker, I mean, like again, it reminded me so much of ED two o nine, like when ED finally powers down and you get that noise going, and it's like that is funny. And yeah, they're adding the boying in here, and you're like, I'm not kidding that this thing is that out of control? Like this isn't looney tunes.

You haven't played any you have, I think earns you haven't earned the looney tune noises here with this because you're not going absurd enough. Well they have. I mean this is a film made by Warner Brothers, so they've got access. So yeah, it's true. Yeah, I mean they're like, hey, what would be funnier other than some like boing boying noises and nothing?

Nothing. I mean, Chevy Chase could be funny if he tried, But you know, fuck trying. Am I right, there's something And we've brought this up like over and over again with chevy Chase, and it's it's interesting to me how apathetic he comes across in these movies and like we I know that it's his act. Like look in Fletch there is a kind of a note of that, but man, people really misread what made chevy Chase appealing. Is what this feels like like watching this movie and knowing that again like chevy Chase, that they when you watch a movie, it's hard to sit if you don't watch movies a lot and realize that, like the movie didn't just happen in one day.

This movie happened over days, months, a year, even like years, it takes years from something to go from script to screen, sometimes decades even development hell is a thing. And the thing that is shocking to me is that people sat every day and worked on this movie for months, and by the end of it, anybody was willing to show up to the premiere because this movie is just it's like again, like criminally unfunny, to the point where if I was Chevy Chasing Gregory Hines and Sigourney Weaver, if this movie got a premiere and it premiered and they were there, I would want I would be squirming in my seat the whole movie. I would want to be anywhere but in the room surrounded by people who are also squirming in their seat because they're being forced to watch my movie.

That is, they're going to have to be like, oh, that was great. Can we talk about anything else now? Can we just be what are you working on now? Like? Got anything else going on?

Like anything but this? Because it's it's rare that I find a movie that is this bad. But here we are. This was a Warner Brothers film, right. Yeah, Warner Brothers Archive was selling it.

Are you? Are you suggesting that it should have been zas lobbed? Oh, in this day and age, it would have. Yeah, back Girls being backgirl may have been a fucking nice thing to do to a movie like this. And yes, people, I know that he was not the head of Warner Brothers back in nineteen eighty three, so you can save your an.

Maybe he should have been just to say things like this didn't get made. You know this this, I wouldn't have been mad about this being ditched for text right off purposes to be honest, with you. I mean kind of feels like it was given how little money the movie like, and again, what's weird to me? I was surprised it was number one. Yeah, any point it's released.

It made a third of the money. Is ever going to make that first weekend? It's you know, I probably speak for the three of us and that like, sitting down to do this show, we're like, well, maybe we're going to find something that they, like the world had slept on. Just you know, again, like not to say that we're like geniuses or anything. You can call us that.

We don't want to self declare it, but like there's always the opportunity for something like this to be like, oh, you know, everybody's kind of slept on it, but that's okay. Well yeah, as a stable genius, I wanted to talk about. The very stable genius the. Arms deal Dealer Convention. I mean again, that should have been hilarious, Like there should have been so many weird weapons or like just overkill type of fit.

Been the Zucker Abram Zucker thing. It's sure as hell would have been well, like. Even loading in an elephant or something, do something with the with the weapons, right, do you know. What It reminded me of a reminded me of the convention that they have in the Conversation the Francis Porcopola film, where it's all of these different gadgets that they're doing, and like, you know, you've got Alan Garfield there and he's trying to sell you with something. But I again, it doesn't make any sense that you have Chevy Chase trying to sell the electrocuting urinal to these guys when he's supposed to be there and in the next shot he's there kind of whining and dining in the general Lisimo guy.

I'm like, well, why didn't you get somebody who was actually fucking funny to do this urinal gag? But yeah, give me like five of those gags. Give me five different things that are ridiculous crazy. Yeah, like you're saying, like an elephant, maybe it's an it looks like an elephant, but it's actually this thing, you know, like or something. Give me something to handle with, this, something to laugh at.

I don't think that William Friedkin was the right choice for this movie. I but again, it goes back to that fucking shits back to this and I don't see where Robert Town had anything to do with this either. He got an uncredited rewrite in here. I'm like, no, what I read is basically what we ended up with. Yeah, that's like I mentioned to you pre recording.

I was expecting to hear sort of. Like with oh the uh under the Rainbow. Yeah, where things were excis that made it make sense, That made it funnier that maybe we're a little raunchy that. I mean, all those scenes that just ended maybe had something else to. Them, or you know, there the scenes weren't connecting either, and I'm like, there's got to be some connective tissue here that's missing.

Maybe this reads in that absurd tone that I felt was missing. Maybe it reads that way and it's it's the actors, it's the director that they're just not going there. But it sounds like, no, none of that was true. So I'm glad I. Didn't know well, and like, like we've alluded to, like the fact that we we a we Mike, you were able to find the script like yeah that we know where they're not the blame as it were, but we know where the idea fomented from and where it starts, and you know where where it starts.

Does this look you know, Paul Brickman wrote Risky Business. Paul Brickman probably known for Risky Business, probably because everything else that he wrote or directed and wrote not nearly as well received or even known at all. Unless someone here is a fan of the bad news of Breaking and Training. Well, you know, I love Citizens Band, I absolutely love that film. We've talked about that.

Did he write Citizens Band? Yeah? He wrote, Oh I guess yeah, handle with care, right, yeah, okay, right. I have a pet spot for bad means bears and breaking training that yeah, same here, that's a childhood thing. But like they're nothing.

None of those are risky Business, though, is what I mean? Like Risky Business is like that's that's the thing, like written and directed by You would assume that guy who wrote and directed Risky Business would have been able to do something he peaked. He'd pepped it there because it's Citizens Band, which we all enjoyed, bad newspapers and Breaking Training, which Mike and I like, and then Risky Business, which you could call, you know, a classic eighties teen sex romp, and then nothing else after that. Yeah. Worth note it is very funny to me to look at the composer of this, Arthur B.

Rubinstein, and that he wrote five scores in nineteen eighty three or was credited for five scores in eighty three, and including one that I've already mentioned, Blue Thunder, and another one that this somewhat reminded me of, which was war Games. War Games where it's incredibly deadly serious, though there are some funny bits to it. They managed John Badam managed to balance those things out very well. Badam even did Blue Thunder. It's like, give this movie to fuck John Badam and see what he could do with it.

And I would hope that somebody would rewrite this before it finally came out, because I remember even reading the script and I was confused about that whole Koshogi thing, the Richard Lambertini section. I was looking at page numbers thinking that I was missing pages because it was so abruptly in and out of the script. And there's also a moment where I was like, was that the general's name? Did I screw up? No?

They just drop a character in and then take him out. And with something like this, I think, you know, like you mentioning John Badam, like the thing that bothers me. Maybe the most about this movie. And I think just in general now having done this so long, like yourself, when a director refuses to talk about a movie like you want to tell us why it is like this, because you're getting an opportunity, in your words, to tell us, bro, like this is your this is your shot to crow and say and blame. I mean not saying blaming anybody else is okay, but like this is your chance to do it.

If you're gonna write a book yourself and someone's asking you to write a book about your career, you have the opportunity. I mean even look, even David Lynch has talked about Dune finally in the in the last like six months, even he's kind of finally decided to you know, oh, well, though Dune's making money now, I guess I can talk about it. I mean, you know, don't want to be that guy. But it also kind of feels a little bit like that. But I think to your point, like Freedkin brings nothing to this project, and I don't understand his involvement just based on the subject material, because yeah, like someone else would have been better suited to direct something like this just based on the subject material.

This is so kind of I know Freedkin likes to work on kind of just whatever he wants to work on, but like, I really wish we could know what drew him to this project. And again, if he's unwilling to talk about it, we will never know because there doesn't. I looked, I'm sure we all looked like there is very little about this movie on the internet in way of like information about it other than other other kind of review sites having kind of corelated some of the stuff that's out there. But because Friedkin refused to talk about it, we don't get to hear from the horse's mouth why it is this way. And this is one of those movies that I'm like oddly perplexed by and kind of wish there was more about it because yeah, like you said kind of in the opening, like it's like it's like that scene of silent Bob and the Simpsons just walking onto a rare not silent Bob, sideshow Bob stepping on a rake over and over again, Like how did you make every wrong move?

Every time you had an opportunity to make a movie, you made the wrong one. Yeah, and he had no problem bad mouthing other. People, right, does what I mean, like the thing with Nicholas Winding Refin, Like are you insane? It's like, friedkin, are you fucking with us? Cause like you made a movie that I is indefensible as a film.

Frankly, like it's an indefensible piece of filmmaking that when I was watching it last night, after having spent the day watching other movies, I was like, this is the worst thing I've watched today in a good while. Frankly, at this point. Are we going to get any lower in this? I don't know. I don't I don't think so.

I really hope not. God even nothing but Trouble is at least bizarre, Like at least it's just a it's a it's a fucking weird movie, but in it being a weird movie, okay, Like that's the other thing, Like this doesn't even take any chances or do anything that's I don't know that it's not a failure in a way that's at least interesting. It's just kind of like it just kind of farts along and then just just like shit shits itself before anything. It shits itself long before anything interesting can even happen. Mm hmm, Yeah, you get those weird scenes like Gregory Hines reading all the specs for the weapons and things.

Then he's able to just jump in there with all the facts and like, Okay, well that's cool. But maybe that's not his character, because his character, to our point from earlier, has become born again and he's trying to get himself out of the arm selling business. Feels like it could easily do that. It feels like another character. It's like the mob, Mike.

Do you know once you're in you can't leave. Yeah, I guess. So it should have been another character who is this kind of you know, interesting autistic type ray Man type character that they can give all this material to and he can spit all out all these facts for it. Having that be the ray character doesn't really make a lot of sense, and especially because that's like a superpower he suddenly has in this movie that we've never seen and never experienced before. It could have been ray Man Zeric.

Maybe packin and be the idiot savant. That works for me. He did a decent job for the one scene that he was in, and I thought that was nice irony of him selling all these weapons. I kind of forgot that he dabbled in movies. Trying to think of another example, and I can't shook.

I should have looked it up beforehand, but I know he appeared in a handful of films over the years. Man with ten percent on Rotten Tomatoes is rough. That's that is, that's that's I mean, it makes sense though, after you watch the whoh oh yeah yeah. As much as I dismissed Rotten Tomatoes as a thing, it's kind of nailed it on this one. I think it's kind of a good thing.

This movie is hard to fight. Like, I'm glad that this movie is not necessarily easy to find, because the less people who stumble upon this film the better. Like I definitely remember it at the video store. I remember that Yep, Fox cover very very well. That should have been that should have been the Chasing Chevy Chase podcast album art because the three of us doing that, and then one of us, but it's all three of us doing the thumbs fucking down.

But yeah, I can't, I honestly can't even believe Warner Archive was selling this at one point, Like who, I want to know, Warner Archive, tell me how many people bought this? Please tell me? Like ten people. It was reissued in twenty fourteen. What, I'm surprised I didn't watch it as a kid, to be honest with you.

I'm surprised it wasn't I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned by you guys like that, like it was on TV all the time, Like. Never saw it on cable and never bothered to rent it, even though I felt like I was a Chivy Chase fan fan. Maybe you heard you knew the subconscious time. Maybe maybe it feels like I might have seen this on cable, but I definitely when I was watching it for the first well, what when did I watched it yesterday? It felt like the first time I was watching it, and.

I know it's the first time for me a lot in September. I didn't recognize anything. Wow, any movie that bothers ray Man Zeric enough to have him show up in it is fine by me. God, yeah, I honestly thought that O Heavenly Dog was going to be kind of the low point. But even God, Oh Heavenly Problems.

Yeah. Well, but that's the thing, like Modern Problems wasn't really that bad in retrospect comparatively to this, At least Modern Problems had a plot that I could follow. At Least Modern Problems didn't, like have three acts that made no sense together, as if they made any sense alone separately. Yeah, I don't. At least, you know what.

At least Modern Problems had Dadney Coleman in it a weird which Dadney Coleman nonetheless now rest in peace. Dabney Coleman. On top of everything else, since we've started the show, Dabney Coleman has passed away. So Jesus. Yeah, I did wonder though, because this was the other thing that was rolling through my head.

If if Eddie Murphy had been in this movie, it wouldn't have even salvaged it. If they had somehow got Eddie Murphy into Gregory Hines role, would it have been any better? Probably would have been worse because they've been like, look, it's Eddie Murphy and Chevy Chase in this movie together, and it's terrible. Oh yeah, I mean it's already a waste of Gregory. It's a waste of everybody's time.

Sigourney Weaver deserves better, Gregory Heines deserves better, Walter deserves better. I mean, everybody deserves better. In this movie with the exception av of Chevy Chase ring Scared. I wanted to say was like Aby five or eighty six, eighty six? Man, Yeah, you want to see Gregor Hines in a good bomedy a movie, yes, or Cotton Club.

Not for a comedy, but for a good Gregory Hines performance. God? What else? Dirty work? Not dirty work?

White Knights, Yeah, Man, talk about a talented guy, but this is just. Like, Yeah, I haven't seen Gregory Heines in enough stuff. Well, even Eve of Destruction he was better in. Mmm. God, I haven't seen him in decades.

I haven't seen him in enough stuff to have an opinion about him. But he's like, this would not be the movie to base any opinion of anybody for their acting abilities, Like now Jesus crrect out running. Scared Chris So it's fun. It's a great one in there, Ap Joey Pants, Yeah he's. Jerry Smith's one of his ROOZI rolls.

Oh yeah. John Greese is amazing in that. Dan Hadea, Jimmy Smith's, Larry Hankin call your Kalfa. Yes, oh yeah, I forgot damn Kalpa's in there. Oh yeah, Larry Hankin and Don calf A, people that I confuse in my brain.

So that's right, because it's Calfa that serves Billy Crystal the papers in the uh or no, Gregory Hines the papers in the Washing Out. Maybe Tracy Walters made it out light from Deal to the Century, just uncredited. Fornee Murray aim on the Air. That's okay, I mean, and it's not a bit. I mean it's a it's a small role, but he's in two or three scenes.

He's got lines. Yeah, and he's got lines. So I found that uncredited thing to be odd. You mean that movie I did with the director who did that movie Bug. Sometimes sometimes there's like leaves and things in there.

Fucking freaking man. Yeah, you know what. This was the same year as Repo Man, I believe, so at least I agree read that. Yeah, and at least Chevy had vacation same year and Fletched the year after. Oh right, that's eighty four.

Sorry, I think Fletch was two years later. Oncelet five eighty five. Yeah, Well, when I take a fan to regroup after this, take a fucking break after this movie. For a while. The only thing he's credited for in eighty four is the Ghostbusters video.

Oh sorry, Mark over you, that's okay. I just said, Uh, we should have watched Repo man. I should have watched anything other than this, Like, yeah, it happens with these uh these kind of podcasts, these theme podcasts. Yeah, we have to watch everything, which I kind of hate talking about movies. I don't like you're dragging on it the whole time.

You know, it can't be fun. But here's the other thing in reality though, a we didn't sit the entire time and make fun of it, which is literally what anybody else would have done, and be more than anything else. I'm just I'm just shocked at this movie plus like this, yeah, more than anything else, because again, if there's you know, if this is like David Venture refuses to talk about it, but everybody else does, that's one thing. But nobody has said anything about this, So it's just like it's a movie that doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me, but I wish somebody would say something other than nothing.

It was bad oral history of deal of this. You're not going to see that by Vanity Fair. Yeah, boy, that's your first book, Chris, get it? God? Can you imagine we're tracking these people down.

You know, our friend refused to talk to you, our friend. Ryan Voll of Someone's Favorite Productions contends that every movie is someone's favorite movie. All right, yeah right, But but. Could this really be someone's favorite movie? I'm sure I want to meet that I want to meet that person though, and ask them just tell me, tell me what's great?

We got IMDb somebody. Uh there was like a ten ten out of ten. Review user review of this. Wow that real? Is that for real?

I'm nails the world? Please tell me? Oh office, Yeah, here you go, office space for the Defense. This is a must seat ten out of ten. This is a must seat for any Chevy Chase fan or anyone who has ever worked at a large defense subcontractor office light, all those locked employees.

I've worked at big companies, both defense and commercial, and this movie portrays them quite accurately. That may be true. That may be true, because that is the potential for the comedy. I mean that that we start off this movie with the commercial for you for them, you know, yeah, that whole thing I mean, And it's very similar to how Real Genius starts off with that whole idea of the you know, the the guys that are out and fighting in these planes and things, and it's just like, yeah, defense contracting can be a funny thing. We've seen other movies that handle this and handle it so much better, and the irony should have been off the charts with this thing.

These guys are out there selling weapons of destruction to people that shouldn't have these weapons. I mean they even make a comment at one part that the General Lisimo can't even spell his own name, but yet we're selling all of these dangerous weapons to them. Yeah, that's where the comedy can come from, guys. That's also where the pathos can come from. But there's neither comedy nor pathos in this entire film.

This movie is for people who want to learn about the ugly convergence of business and war, peppered with a handful of great jokes about the subject. Head out of ten, this movie is they're not being hyperbolical, brilliant. This movie is brilliant. This movie also makes a very strong moral point about the military industrial complex that should be taught, whether with this movie or not, to all people before they are allowed to vote. This is this is actually the best part here to bring this all full circle, so this is written in September fifteenth of two thousand and five.

Why is that important to life? As line of this review gives you an idea why the movie Lord of War with Nicholas Cage is about to be released and from the trailer it looks like the writers saw a deal of the century and decided to update him for two thousand and five. Yeah, hey, prove that's not true, Kerk. So are there are multiple ten nunt of tens because you just combined two of them? Oh, Paul, Yeah, there's another thing.

That has spoiled those people's favorite movie. Some movies completely understood compared con according to flip hop from September fifth, two thousand and five. According to J. R. Williams, fifty one doll and in all Cats, Chevy Chase, Sigurdy Weaver and Gregory Hines stir up a real deal.

The absolute beautiful Catherine Devoto played by Sigourdy Weaver is a total dream girl gun carrying and this is my favorite submissive femis. Oh she's a dread wise lovely. When traudwives care Gunzo, well boy, they should. They should know how to strip and uh whatever they need to do. Yeales cleaning him sis sane.

Yes, this left wing comedy is so very boring that it doesn't even have the strength to properly annoy me. It supports for communist rebels, and it's disdained for Reagan and everything that he stood for is just so idiotic. And troit Weaver is her usual uncharismatic self, and Chase has never been this unfunny. But there's hardly anybody who would have been funny in this script. And it amazes me that it actually went through the last draft of the script and actually thought, yeah, this will be good.

It's so funny that they went for the leg you do it right down my body? No, those feedor eight from eight jan two thousand and seven. This is honestly, this typing, this is the funniest shit to be because again speaking of where this is in Chevy Chase's career, if you are at all a Chevy Chase fan and enjoy his older work, now in parentheses they put Caddy shack, Letch and et cetera, his older work that was the eighties. He's still working technically, then this is definitely worth renting. And older work is Caddyshack and Fletch Caddyshack is ostensibly one of chevy Chase's like earlier things.

No, like, there's only three years separating this from that, so it's not old, it's it's contemporary work. No, his older Caddyshack is his older He never made anything after Fletch Bad Way, that's his older works. If only that word, if only the next thing we were talking about is the last thing we were talking about, Boy Got Well, anyone who likes Family Guy or Futurama will have a good chance of appreciating this movie. Eighteen of twenty seven people found this review helpful. So you know, if at least nineteen people who listen to this find this helpful, will have been at least one more helpful than the person who gave this movie a ten out of ten in two thousand and five.

Mind you, when other movies had come out, plenty of them, Frank. One other movies. The other movies existed in two thousand and five. Yeah, yeah, I. Think I think we are just about to crack nineteen as far as our list their base.

So maybe we get twenty people that find this podcast interesting. Those thumbs up smash that like button mics. Make our show the deal of a century of podcasts now though though we haven't, we'd have to stoop pretty low at this point to even subter ratecot Oh, chevy Chase Man, chevy Chase is not trying. So let me propose this our next I'm thinking about this last night, and I believe there's some crossover. The next series should be dan Ackroyd Films.

Oh god, only if we get to cover that video of dan Ackroyd talking for two hours in a hotel room about aliens and chain smoking, like forty well, I hear that, see that one, lazy gentlemen. My name is dan Ackroyd, and I believe in aliens. Boy, we're off to a good start here, dan Wow. Yeah. But that's the thing, Like dan Akward always strikes me as like a genuine human being, and maybe chevy Chase is now, but like, I don't think dan Akred would do something he doesn't, not that he doesn't believe in twenty sixteen Ghostbusters.

I give what you're saying, I give, but like dan Akward's always I at least know that dan Akward is kind of always at least showing up as dan Acrid chevy Chase. It's like why are you here? I have the money they're paying me. Okay, I hear you. Somebody paid him for this movie.

Somebody made money. Well, somebody spent money to make this movie. And every day they looked at those dailies and they were like, we are in so much trouble. I think what the problem was that this was written by leftists with the communist agenda who just wanted to make fun of our dear President Reagan. Oh I thought that this was in fact about Donald Trump.

Somehow, just in nineteen eighty three, somehow tie it back. We'll just tie it all ties back in the end leftist agenda. Boy, if this is the leftist agenda, they got us all wrong. The leftist deal of the century is our bible. This is the sacred text for the leftist agenda.

God, it doesn't even hit that now, who could be who could be offended by this movie? Like, I mean the two times that they reference Reagan where they actually have clips of Reagan, and I mean it just fits with everything that they're saying in the movie. Now, very ironic, Yeah, right, spiel. Basically that's what they're doing. It's very toothless as a satire, and that like, you know, maybe maybe to to bring this all full circle, like that is the worst thing about this movie is that is you know, like we mentioned, it's like doctor Strange dumb, Like it's just dumb.

It's it has nothing to say. It thinks it's clever. I watched a preview for the movie before I watched it last night, and they show that scene where they all fly back after the rocket launcher. Doesn't make any sense in the trailer, doesn't make any sense in the movie. The movie doesn't have any idea what it's trying to do.

And yeah, you know, I've referenced it so many times this year on several episodes of the show that William Friedkin winding Refin interviewed, like, I wish I could have five minutes and a time machine to go back in time and be like, hey, Freedkin, what's the deal? Like that should have been his retort, winding reference retort should been tell me about Dela Century Bill Billy, come on pal, Like I mean again, like, if you're unwilling to talk about your movie, maybe just thinking all out here, you shouldn't have made it, because again, movie isn't made in one day. It's made in months of time, and people edited this movie and sat in the premiere and booked catering every day, and like people were spending time making this and uh whatever.

On the other side, we like, we're lucky that movies are good, because this is what it looks like when all of the cylinders fire in every direction but forward. It's like everything goes awry and this is yeah, this is a good example of it. This Yeah, this is like casino reale for me. If anyone ever comes up to me, it's like my favorite movies deal of the century. I'm not going to run away from them.

I'm going to ask them. Can you please tell me why? Because tell me please, I have to know. I'm so glad and neither one of you were like I loved this movie. Be like I don't think we could be friends anymore.

Oh come on, I mean it's not that bad. But like this, I mean, I think this is one of the worst things I've ever done in episode on again in terms of just like a modern Holly Ralf thing, like made by an actual studio. This isn't released by like, you know, two thousand Mules Productions or whatever. Insane ash shit bad movies now don't look like this, right, This is what a bad movie looked like in the eighties. Bad movies now are like very different.

This is just kind of a very specific kind of comedy that would come out in the eighties that just failed. Most of them just didn't have Chevy Chase in them and Gregory Hines and Sigourney Weaver. So with a with deal of the century in our rearview mirror. Yes, on the next episode of the Chasing Chevy Chase podcast, we will be talking about nineteen eighty fives fletch. Guess what.

It's a good movie. So that's a spoiler. That's not even a spoiler, that's a fact. So until then, where can people find you and the things that you work on? Mark Begley, You can find this show and my two other shows a CambridgeMA, Seawan and Wake Up Heavy Over on the weirding Way media podcast site.

About you, Marb that is what about you? Mike White? What about me? Mark White? Mark?

Yeah, what about you? Mark White? You find everything that I do? Oh, we're doing media to at Commas. Well except for one thing which Chris and I have on our respect to Patreons, which is ranking on Bond where every month we talk about a different James Bond film, and ironically it always seems to be the same day that we're talking about Chevy Chase film.

So maybe one of these days the two universes will collide. Next Chevy Chase, next James Bond, Chevy Chase. What do you think he's only like eighty something years. Old this chance? Man?

Oh you're saying like, now he could play yo. Oh yeah, why do we think? Huh? God could good? God?

Any think what will happen is that gun Site will come over has he's walking across, and then I'll do a craft fall and break. His hip, right I mean now, I mean is that not funny? Like hilarity ensues. Yeah. As for me and my opinions on things, they can be found over weirding Way Media as well, where I do the Culture Cast and so many other things with Mike, and Mike and Mark have both been on the Culture Cast plenty of times.

So yeah, that's where we can find that show wherever. Please like, rate and review this show on iTunes regardless irrespective of where you get it, because it helps us find an audience, and iTunes is where seventy five percent of people who listen to things like this find it so yeah. Like rate interview on iTunes, please wherever you get it, Yeah, and please come back and join us on the next episode, where I promise we'll be talking about something that's good, not this thought s