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We're going back to the beach. Baby. Hi, it's the feminine critique. I'm Emily, I'm Christine, and we're very excited. I'm very excited to talk about beach movies.
I'm excited to talk about beach movies too. I did immediately upon suggesting this is something we talk about, was like, well, well, I don't know what I'm going to put on this list. So I'm really excited to see what we both ended up putting. On this little and I want to get a couple of caveats out of the way. So one movie that I always talk about I feel like i've addressed too many times for summer movies and everything is The Sand, which is a wonderful, dumb horror movie about killer sand, about alien sand, and it's all set in the beach and it's the best beach horror movie ever.
So I just want to say that at the top because I feel like that's one that is a separate thing that I'm not going to go into because I've gone into it in detail before, I've given the movie that probably doesn't deserve this much attention, way too much attention over the years. But the sand everybody, great, beacharter movie, dumb beachorm movie. It's great. Then the other big thing I just wanted to get out of the way is that there's a few When I was kind of thinking it through and going through, I kept thinking of movies of like the difference between an island and a beach, and now in some cases there's no difference. Right, A lot of the movies I have on here take place on islands.
What my rule was, I'm like, Okay, it can take place on an island, but like the island, the beach aspect of the island has to be a big part of it. So, for example, I have two that would have made a list that I don't I don't feel like should be on this list. One of them Battle Royale. Right, Yeah, that's fair. I get what you're Yeah, I do understand what you're saying.
So it seems like you as far as beach and islands was kind of like where I was just like, okay, just because there's sand, it's not a beach, Christine, so stop it like I have where's the ocean yet? To me? If it didn't have sand, I felt like it wasn't really a beach. Yeah, so it's it's a it was it was. I had to make little traps for myself to be able to do this too, because it it can very quickly turn into something a little bit different if you're if you're not paying attention to what you're actually writing down.
And it's funny because I mean, obviously, just a few weeks ago, we did our favorite boat movies and I thought, oh no, I'm gonna have overlap, and I realized, like, no, we handled that list correctly because those were movies on boats, and boats are on the water, not usually part of the beach. It's true, Okay, okay, I feel good about this. I just doo yeah. All right. With that being said, it's just gonna be us kind of walking through I or we we have different ways of organizing our lists, me being you know, kind of a spreadsheet nerd and like to come up with rules for myself.
I have I have particular categories of beach type things, and Christine you have categories of your own sort, you know, I do. I have some buckets, so to speak, that I've decided to beach buckets, beach, a little sand pails here go, all right? So I mean, who, I have some. I have a few that are legitimately I can I stand ten toes down about this movie being a beach movie. Excellent, But then then I have a lot of me explaining why I'm going to allow something, so.
Documentation prepared. Yeah, I am prepared to defend a lot of no. But I feel like, sure, let's start with some like really like obvious easy ones. All right, perfect, So I'll start with one that I think is a very clear beach movie. This one kind of encompasses everything of a beach, or like the things you think of when you think of beach.
And first off, I forget, are you a beach person? No? Oh not at all. I say I don't know how to swim, and Zach will say, yes, you do, but if you put me in the ocean, I wouldn't do well. I don't know how to swim.
And also I don't like the sun, and also I don't like the sand, and also I don't like salt water. So I love the beach. I love the sun, I love the sand, I love saltwater. The sun, however, hates me. And I have been told this by several doctors and like cosmetologists who have pointed out that like, no, you you have to understand, you can't.
You shouldn't be in the sun. Look at your skin. It's doing this because the sun doesn't like you. Your body does not like the sun. I'm like, no, but I do.
It doesn't matter. Your body doesn't. So now when I go to the beach in my old age, I basically I'm full on Doctor Moreau drag as I call it. Yeah, Like I'll do the long sleeves, I'll do the big dumb hat. I'll have I have to like I got that other like sensitive skin, so I have to get this expensive sunscreen to put in my face so it doesn't melt like face off.
But I love it. I love sitting there with my dream like my one of my favorite things that I get to do, like once a year is just sit on a beach with a book with a beer, sit there for a while, eat, you know, read, get hot, go in the water, come back dry off, read, get hot, go back in. Like I could do this all day long, all day long. I love it. It hates me, but I love it.
I I'm theory, I get it. Yeah. Well so okay, so those other as something. So we've got sun, right, we've got water, we've got swimming, we've got the other I think big appeals of the beach, like and this isn't so much like the personal appeal of going to the beach, but what I think of beach movies, like what do I want? I want hot people like in little clothing, all right, yeah, like it's a big part of it.
So my first beach movie, uh, is a little movie that I owe a lot to because I did not pay for it to see it. The first time I into this movie, and I loved it so much that I felt so bad that I have since. Bought The Son of a Bitch You Get out of My House? Is this your first beach movie too? It wasn't my first, but it was my second.
I tell the people what it is. I believe you're speaking of about a perfect getaway, perfect getaway, A perfect film. Yeah perfect. I just looked at my shelf and I saw it on my shelf. Yeah, I think it's undeniable, right, Like it's.
A beach movie. And it's got it's it's like, so I have a bunch on here that I don't think are really beach movies when you think about it, but like this, this does have like the weather, and like this the sun kissed skin and like the salty breezes. It has that like everybody's beach hair looks fantastic short haircut that somehow works on the beach. My hair is that length? Why does it look like that?
Yeah? Absolutely, I don't know. Why don't I look like Miilijovovich, I asked myself. It's regularly it's great and like it it's a good movie on top of it too, So it's like, obviously this really enticing setting done really well, but like a good movie is also sitting on top of it, which is like exciting. It's one of those movies that I think is such a perfect if you were in the mood, if it's either a winter in your cold then you want like an escape, or it's like starting to get summer and you're somebody that likes to get into the mood by watching something very seasonal.
To me, it is the perfect movie for either of those things. It is so funny, it has you know, great twists and turns. It has four incredible performances at the center of it. It. I mean it.
It's the movie that finally taught me the difference between Josh du Hammel until Timothy Olifant. Obviously, since then we all know, we get it. Timothy Olifant is fantastic. We know this now. But this was the movie where I was like, oh, I will never forget this man because he is giving such a special like you can tell he's just doing his own thing in this movie, and it works so well.
Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a good one. It's a perfect movie. It is a perfect movie. Yeah, And if anybody out there hasn't seen it, I always encourage people to watch the theatrical cut, not the director's cut.
Yeah, just better paced. I think I observed that one of the last times I watched it. Yeah, you should watch it, come on, everybody should. Yeah, and you get like a prethor Chris Hamsworth's like shirtless the for you know, the beginning and end of the film. Just there so lots of reasons.
Yep, all right, well I took one of your big ones. You you go next, what's. Your That's okay because I was hoping it would be on your list. If it wasn't, I was gonna say, well, I give up, what is right? Who are you?
Yeah, I will say this is not maybe like my favorite movie, but when I think of like Sand and Water, I have started to think of this movie and that would be The Shallows. Yeah, it was on my honorable mentions because like, okay, somebody it'll come up. But yeah, I think it. And the reason why I felt I because I actually we own it. And I kind of bounced through it and was like, is this like a beach movie?
Such a beach movie? And it is? I mean she was like she she takes like a little van thingy or a jeep to the beach and she like sits on the beach and talks to her sister. I know that we're like in the water for a lot of it, but the beach is right there. The beach is a player in the movie because it's not entirely on the water.
She has to get to the beach. There are other people on the beach, like that beach movie. Don't worry, So I will say, and I don't know why. Maybe it's just where I was at when I saw it, but this one really sticks for me, is like a modern shark movie that really worked completely and so like it's it stands out in my head as is a great locational film with like a good shark and I think. Maybe we haven't talked about it in a while.
I am not the biggest shark movie fan because I feel like what happens with so many of them, it is the same thing over and over again. And I was watching Jaws too on TV the other day because I've been airing a lot of Jaws and I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, this is exactly my issue shark movies. All you can do is have somebody fall in the water and then have you know, a shot of their legs swimming and you see the shark, You see the pov. Are they gonna get out? Are they gonn get to the boat in time?
The shark's coming, the boat, the shark, the boat, the shark. Okay they're okay or okay, they gotta eat. Like that's what so many shark movies that's their default, because what else can you do but the shallows? I think it is. I mean, it's like brief, it moves really quickly, but it finds ways to make this different because you've got the tide coming in.
You have it as a very particular survival story of somebody who is like uniquely suited to figure this out. And it's not just I gotta swim away from a shark. It's I have to plan my escape from a shark. And I think it's much more interesting than it maybe gets credit for too. I agree.
I agree. So, like, I'm sure there's other sharky type movies that you could easily plug into this kind of beach like Jaws, I guess, but that's not for me. Like when I now think of it, I think of this movie. So yeah, and I think, I mean, I didn't put Jaws on mine because like, yeah, everybody knows Jaws is great. Sure, great, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't need us to tell you.
Now, Yeah, Jaws is like if you google beach movies, it's it's. The first thing you're coming up. Yeah, same thing with Boat, right, it was honorary on Boat. That's very true. But I know what, on the topic of shark, I do have a shark movie in my my big list, and I didn't put it on here as a shark movie per se.
I put it on there in the kind of other category, which was like, when I think of Beach, I want kind of dumb fun and like bikinis and biceps type thing, right, like that kind of energy of the Beach movie. This is a movie. Now, I have to say, I have a few others on my honorable mentions that are movies that, like, I only on so I didn't feel comfortable putting them on there. This movie I've only seen one time, but it has left such a strong impression on me that I still find myself quoting it anytime I think of or see Joey Fatone, for example, uh, former member of in Sync. I always have to quote the line where I said, Joey Fatone, my mother loves you.
Because I am talking, of course about Jersey Shore shark attack. What Yeah, Okay, hold on, I'm going to the IMDb goo good to b MDB. I don't know if this was a I don't know who it was made for. I don't think it was Sci Fi channel. I don't think it's Asylum.
It's it is. A from twenty twelve. Twenty twelve, that sounds right, wow, I don't is anybody in I mean there's a couple of cameos again, Joey Fatone for example. Well, I immediately saw Paul Sorvino's name. Yes, yes, falls Ervino.
This is a I mean it's a it's a comedy. It's in the vein of the sort of shark NADOs, but it's before that, and it is not directly associated with the show Jersey Shore, but the idea it's a parody of Jersey Shore, where it's like, instead of snooky, it's like spooky or something, and it's just easy, you know, dumb Jersey kids are at the beach and there's a shark. Uh, there's a shark attack. I can't remember if the sharks are like supernatural or not. I really don't remember the details, but the vibes of this movie have stuck with me because the cast is really good.
They are very funny, they know what they're doing, and I remember this movie being an absolute delight and I giggled throughout it. And I almost don't know if I ever want to watch it again, because I might find myself. I might sully it. Yeah, it's a it's a Jersey Shore parody. Shark movie from twenty twelve YEP there's a real good chance it's not gonna hit the same way, or will it.
It's got a three point zho of that smash come on IMDb. But I will say for anybody listening who's curious, it looks like it's on to be, so you can go see for yourself. Do I just watch this again? Yeah? Absolutely?
You know what's sad when you google Jersey short shark attack, this movie doesn't even come up. First because of all the act versus. The nineteen sixty ten nineteen sixteen Jersey short shark attacks. I mean, yeah, well you know it's a historical document too. No, yeah, it's wow.
Is it even on page one? There we go, Okay, it's on page one, but it's pretty for down. I would like other people to watch this movie and tell me that I'm right and that it holds up and that's a delight, and then I'll rewatch it. Yeah, I mean I'm a little curious, honestly. Yep, alright, well you have two b it's free.
It's free. I've heard that about to be. You just have to subject yourself to some you know, of the same laundry commercials over and over again. But it's worth it. Yeah, I mean I maybe later I'll have to check it out.
I I have a movie on here that I really feel like I need to justify, but I don't think I do because I think it's pretty like, yeah, this is a beach movie. I guess, let's hear it. My picts are also stupid. I just said shark attack, that's true, but it is a beach movie. Yeah.
So like I do think The Lost Boys is a beach movie totally. It's not. It's a beach vibes. It's a beach town, which, believe me, we'll get into that, but it's a beach town. But I put it on my main list because many points of action happened on the beach, like the when they find the Vampire Layer it's right on the beach on the post, and when they when the when they play, I still believe that's a concert on the beach, So I figure the beach played an active role enough to justify it.
I think you are completely correct, and having this on there. In the last five years, this has become one of my favorite movies. Yeah, it's one that has grown. I think it's aged really well and it kind of ages better every with every cycle of other movies that are pulling from it, like it is probably when you're making lists of influential style movies, this has got to be up there so high because the redefining Vampires. Yes, you could look at like Anne Riis did one thing, but Lost Boys did something else that carries through for so long, as far as the leather jacket and.
This and that that look, yeah. And the dusting, and like there is so much to The Lost Boys that has carried and it's a good fucking movie. It is. I'm a I'm a huge Shoemaker fan in my in my advancing age, and like this is it's undeniable. It's an undeniable film.
It's so well shot, it's so beautiful, so like yeah, and and also again when I think of beach stuff, I think of like I Still Believe on the beach and then walk, yeah, the boardwalk him running around chasing Star and all the vampires on the beach. Like it's just like the kind of like how Near Dark was like hey, let's put vampires like in in the desert, out in the sun kind of thing. This is like let's put them by the water, And that's kind of weird. And fun. Yeah, agree completely.
So that's that's that's that's mine, right, And I and I, as I talked through these my two that I was going to try to cheat, I think they're actually entries now, so I feel confident about it. Exciting, all right. My next one is, without question the Beach Movie. Okay, I have no fear of it not being counted because it is uh, mostly set on a beach, and not just any beach, but a magical beach beach with different energy that does magical things that yeah. No, no, no, no, not that one no, it is a one word title.
Now, I feel like I need to get you there. This is not I don't I think this is. This is not a good movie. It might be a really bad movie. Oh no, I cannot tell you.
It keeps airing on the Sci Fi Channel when I'm like cooking dinner or just like futzing around the kitchen, and I'm like, oh, I guess I'll leave this on. And I think I've watched it like three times in a row in the past two and a half weeks because it's always on at the right time, and every time it's on, I'm like, I can't help that this movie is so stupidly entertaining. There's no other movie like this. I can't think of a movie that has this plot. It is m Night.
Shamalan's old old. I okay, so I know that this is a movie on a beach I've seen, so this might be the only M Night movie I haven't seen. Whoa Christine mariemake piece Christine. But it seemed like I wouldn't like it. I don't know, it's not good.
It's really entertating. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I actually know somebody who says that that's their favorite M Night movie and they've seen them all. So that makes me curious. I'm not gonna lie. And now the fact that you find it very.
Watchable, I guess it's so watchable. I mean it's on a beach the entire time. I don't know. It's like you know when you watch something enough and you're like, well, how can it be bad if I can't stop watching it? No.
I actually replanned what I was gonna do the other day, I forget. I was like in my kitchen and I was going to get up and go do laundry or something. I'm like, oh, I'll just wait a little longer to get to the next part of this movie because I like this far. No, that's ninety percent of my film taste is just like, well, I like watching this. Is it good?
I don't know, I like watching it. So it is. I mean again, it's unlike anything it and to its credit, as much as you know, a lot of his films, you know, do the big twist, Like the twist is there. It makes perfect sense. I would not be surprised if other people figure it out.
It. I think it has things to say. I think it probably has more on its like mind and heart to say about parenthood and other things. And I don't know that it really does that seriously. But it's I don't know, it feels, you know, how do I say it.
It's like it has like short story energy in a way, whereas cramming this very big concept into a very pulpy story. And I don't know, it's it is something. It really is something. You need to watch it. Maybe we'll do it for the show because I need to make sure you watch it.
I U, yeah, okay, I'm actually totally down with that because I really need to be pushed to do it. I've put it off for this long. So okay, Okay, we're gonna watch Old soon. Yes, well, wow, you here to heard it here first, folks, Old old beach movie. Good beach movie.
I mean I didn't say good beach movie. I said favorite beach movie. One of my favorite beach movies. I can't handle it. Okay, that's fair.
Well, I don't know if I can beat Old well, but hot on the heels of Lost Boys, I feel like this movie I could do all of the same justifications. The whole thing doesn't take place on a beach, but there's great beach elements, and the beach elements are actually super important to the story. And I'm describing the movie us. I'm just talking about. Yes, yep, yep, No, nope, that's good.
I know that it's not really a beach movie in a lot of ways, like how Lost Boys isn't in a lot of ways it but like they literally go to the beach and that's where the inciting incident kind of happens initially is at the beach, and then there's a lot of beach stuff. I don't know. When I think of like sand and like being hot and like terrified, I think of us. That's fair They're on a beach vacation, right, they are? They are?
They went on vacation to be near the beach. They do, and they go to the beach, Yes they do. And uh yeah, I like that movie a lot. Again, maybe it's very lost and Lost Boys hold hands and walk down. Oh yeah, And I think, I mean, I think Jordan Peele has been upfront about Lost Boys being a huge influence on it stylistically.
Just again, it's all the peer right, all of the Santa Monica peer stuff. And that might be one of the videos in the opening scene when there's like a shot of ATV with videos on top of it, that might be one. I'm not sure it might be. I know, like what is like shut is there? Yeah?
Okay, but it's it's that it's that same vibe. So it's hard to like think of one and not think of the other for me. And that's just quintessentially what I think of when I think, I guess, I think Boardwalk when I think of the beach, which is interesting to find out. Yeah that it's reasonable, it's part of it, I guess. And I love us.
I mean, I think I think get Out is probably his best movie. But I think US is probably my favorite of them because US is is just again talk about like old a movie that takes swings and goes places you would never ever expect when you look to look at it to start. I appreciate that, and Lapida Neoga should have won the Oscar for it. So it's just it's really great, like if you revisit it in these summer months. I see to everyone, Yeah, I want to rewatch all of these movies this summer.
Now, although this, okay, I'll go with, well, let's go out of season. Then okay, all right, I'm gonna go like this. Uh huh. I actually I had to here that I'm gonna kind of pair because both of them, I think we're shutter watches. They're both older films, and both of them are are definitely set on a beach, in the beach around the beach, but the you know, it's not young people swimming in the water.
It's not like it's more the beach is there for the ambiance. So one of them is I should have written the year down for this seen sunder something see nineteen seventy six The Witch who came from the scene that is on my lit Wait when you it. I watched it a while ago, teach it. Did you not tell me you watched it? I feel like I remember saying you have to watch it, and then I don't remember you ever go going and watching it.
So so there's a there's there might I might not have known the movie. I might not have known that this was the title of that movie because I actually, for my list, I had a hard time finding it. I had to google different combinations of words to find it. Yeah, yeah, to figure out the title. But this is the woman who murders men.
Yes, she murders men in a seaside town, in a seaside town. It's in my movies that are are mostly weird coastal towns. Yeah, so this was a weird coastal town. So I. And it does have a lot of beach elements.
Though lately, yeah, it feels like everything in this movie is covered in sand. Yes, yeah, yeah so that. Yeah, this was definitely on my list. This is this is I fucking love a seaside town. I like them when they're weird.
I like them when they're abandoned. I like them when everybody's being shifty and uncomfortable. Yep, this this one's got a lot of like abandoned building energy, which I've sad. Bar energy sah. And that adds to it too, like it takes like I'm not gonna say this is a simple story, but it takes like a kind of stock story, and then by throwing it in that setting, it's all this these levels of like interest.
Ada, I'm so, I'm so glad you put it on your list. Oh yeah, it's one. I've still only seen it one time, and it's one that like left such an impression to me where I'm like, oh, I will visit this my other The other fun this is forget the director's name, Matt Simber, who is a name. The name itself might e ring a bell, but if you start down a rabbit hole, you realize very quickly this is the guy that Mark Maren's character in Glow was based on. Oh interesting, Remember Mark Maren on Glow is a like actual he's a director and he's made like you like, oh, I made like a lot of b horror films.
But then there's like other characters like the or like say like no, you made really Like yeah, they were shitty movies, but they were also really great movies. And there's one or two where they talk like, oh, yeah, some of them were actually feminist movies and so on, and you realize, like, oh, I think they're referencing this movie on glow. That's that's very funny and interesting. I will say. The fun thing I learned about this movie is that I put this movie on to see to test its beachness, and I accidentally picked the commentary track.
And it seems like I didn't know this, but it looks like Dean Kundy was the uncredited like cinematographer of this movie and also worked on another movie that I have on my list. I want to hear your other movie, but like it was exciting like this. It looks good. It's a good looking movie, and it's a really cool movie. And did I just see that it was on to be It's also on to B I think I think we might own it.
Though, Yeah, this is there a good release of this out there? I might go and get it for myself. I want to own this one. Yeah, so I think there is, and I need to. I don't have it in front of me, but the I think I saw it when I was actively renting movies from Scarecrow, when I was still in Seattle.
I would just go blind pick things up, and I think this might have been one of them, which is why why I couldn't remember anything about it. I can see that I'm looking at like the cover box art for this is like if I saw this on a shelf, I would grab it because it's a woman dressed like an amazon, you know, holding a sickle above her and holding a man's head on a rock with the beach behind her. And like it's not that kind of movie, Like this is not you know, it's not that, but it's also like what's sort of like emotionally it kind of this I don't know, there's I mean, and this is like there's stuff going on here, there is justification for certain things, but it is about a damaged woman. But yeah, it's a good one.
Oh yeah, I love it. I'm glad you did too. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's on that actual weird coastal town. Yeah, sub sub list, but on my main list.
And again I don't know why I was going to try to take this to not justify this one. But this is a beach movie. So I love I get the Christie stories. I love Horroo stories. My favorite Pooro is Peter was And my favorite Peter usanoff Poor Oh movie is Evil under the Sun.
Which I've never seen, and it. Looks like this is on toob too. Evil under the Sun I'm reading right now. Apparently takes place at a Balkan resort, but it's it's got a lot of beach stuff there. They're laying in this like little cove of a beach a lot and it's very sunny.
And this is the one with Diana Rigg and Magnet. Oh my god, this cast Sylvia Miles, James Mason, Roddy McDowell, Maggie Smith. This is my like tip to tail, like this is my favorite one. It's got an amazing cast. It's a really good story and in the location is bananas.
Like everybody's wearing like little bathing suits and bathing caps and like rowing boat. Very quaint. Oh, I need to I'm sure Brandon has either seen this or knows where, like it has a reason for having not, but I need to see this. I think it's for me. There are Musanov ones that I don't really love, like whatever the one with Terrry Fisher.
I can't remember the name of that one, but like that one doesn't hit for me. This one is like so good and Diana Rigg's so good in it, and Maggie Smith's like they hate each other in it, her and Maggie Smith. And it's really fun. Oh I love it so like yeah, oh okay, And it's also on Amazon Prime. Oh cool.
Everybody should watch it if you like a good murder mystery. I really feel like this one works. Nice, nice, nice nice. All right. I've got my other out of season beach movie or like beach movie that isn't about like how fun it is to be on the beach is a movie from nineteen ninety three or ninety four, But this movie feels like it was made in nineteen seventy one.
This and like, well, and here's the reason why is that I believe it was filmed in Ukraine or one of the very like immediate Soviet aftermath countries that was word of the Soviet Union. So it just it looks out of time. This is Dark Waters. It came up. I think a couple of people like probably know of it because it was on Shutters, the folk Ye documentary, and so they had it airing then when they kind of got a lot of these titles there.
It might still be there. I'm not sure. We watched it a few years ago on Halloween and we're watching it in the movie ends and I look at Brand and I'm like, oh, that's great, and he looks at me. He's like, I was so bored. So it's not for everyone, I know.
So I think the time will have passed when people listen to this. But I believe this is currently included in the Severn DVDC Blu ray sale. And I almost bought a Sight Unseen because people talk so highly about it. I think you would really dig it. I think it's your kind of movie.
This is one of those movies that is so it's set in it's on an island. It's like there's a nunnery on the island, but it might be a satanic dunnery. Who can say it is. There's water, there's rocks, but you know people can fall off of and fall into the water and die. It's very like just sand and like dead things on the sand.
It's a mystery. There are you know, secret entrances and everything. It. I wondered if whichever the Omen uh one of those the new Omen movie that came out. I wondered if that like owed anything to this, because it felt a little bit like, oh, there's some imagery going on here, but this looks so different, especially for the time, like nobody would ever believe this was made ninety three.
It looks does not look like it, and I found it great. If memory serves it has a really good soundtrack. It's it's creepy, it's strange, it's I guess it's probably one of these movies that's if you care about love Craft and Cuthulu, it might be a Cuthulhu Lovecraft thing. I don't care. I have.
I've tried reading Lovecraft. I couldn't really get that much into it. I know what a terrible man he was, so I don't really feel like I need to keep reading him. And so whenever a movie like goes at direction, a lot of times I'm like, oh, we're going here, but everybody gets very excited when something suddenly turns into that story, and I don't because I have no connection to it. But this is an exception where it feels like I don't think I thought of it as Alu thing at all until afterwards when people were like, oh, yeah, well, you know it's a lovecraft thing.
I'm like, oh, I didn't get that, and it didn't take anything away from it for me. So yeah, it's it's easy for that to be like a common element in the seaside town kind of. I guess, yeah, I know there was that. Well, what was the one that you and I both watched with the nicing woman from House of the Devil who should be funny? You mentioned so I that this this would put your dark waters would probably be on my list if I had seen it, because it sounds a lot like the other movies that are my cheap movies on this list, which one of them is Off Season, which is the Jostleton Josh and Joe Swanberg.
Joe Swanberg honestly really. Good in the secret Weapon of every movie he's in as an actor, he's ye like he just he has something that is often like initially very pleasant, so then if he's unpleasant, it's really powerful, or he can just be very pleasant. Really really, I love when I see him. In things me too, and I don't And I think rewind the tapes and we probably talked about this movie and I might have said I didn't like it or it wasn't fully what. I don't know what it is.
I think about it constantly interesting. Because I didn't love it. I wanted to love it, and then it for me it turned too Kathu Lewis. I think that there's just some ways about it, the way that they're clearly whoever made this movie, I'm not looking at it right now. Liked the same movies that I like, and there's imagery in it, and now I think this one's like from the early twenty twenty it's probably twenty twenty twenty one ish, but like it's cool to see a modern take, I guess on like movies we're talking about, like The Witch who Came from the Sea, and I will mention another one that's older, and it's cool to see that through like a modern lens, I guess.
So sometimes when I'll think of like weird beach stuff or seaside stuff, that movie jumps to the front of my brain. So I felt like I had to include it because I guess it stuck with. Me apparently, so have you rewatched off Season or just that one time and it stuck with you? So it just that one time and it stuck with me, but with a lot of these I actually did a research aka wherever they were streaming or if I owned them, I just clicked through to make sure my memory was right. But this is on Shutter.
I think it was a Shutter original, and I did put it on and I watched maybe the first fifteen minutes and then kind of just started jumping through it to see if it was kind of how I remembered it. And again I didn't sit down and watch the whole thing, but that first fifteen minutes was so really compelling, and I was like, that's yeah, well I don't know so, but I put it in my like my Shutter list to actually go back, go backually rewatch. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it doesn't live up to its opening. Uh.
But again it's also just a personal preference on the type of movie it becomes. No totally, and like I said, if you went back and listened to us talk about it, I probably was like, I don't know, it could have been bad. But the way that. I think about it has to mean that it like it clicked often. Yeah yeah, so like yeah, it's like I said, it's it's on Shutter.
So if you if you have Shutter, give it a try. Yeah, Joscelyn Donna. He was extremely charming, She's lovely. Yeah, I wish she had a bigger career. But hm, I saw her got it.
I think it was like an athletic commercial, and I was definitely it's a national commercial. It probably made her more money than House the Devil did. But it was just like a moment of like, oh, but she's not like it's not like she's in this commercial because she's Joscelyn Donna Hue, you know, a scream queen. She's just in this commercial because she's a working actor, and it feels like she you know, I want to see her in horror. Movies, not exactly.
Yeah, well, all right, my last like official of my like main list, and then I have a lot of details and so on. But this one is one of the first ones I thought of, and I'm kind of proud of myself for thinking of it because it is not the type of movie I would often like have in the front of my mind. But it is a pure beach movie. It is set entirely on a beach on an It's an island movie as well, but it's an island surrounded by beach and that's a big part of what goes on. One of the most famous novels of the twentieth century, and oddly because it's in many ways like in terms of pop culture and incredibly influential work, there have only been two.
I guess there is a third. There's a Filipino adaptation of this in the seventies that I've never seen, but there was one film in nineteen sixty four. One in nineteen ninety, which I saw in the theater when I was ten. Explains a lot about me, is often the case, but I am talking about the nineteen sixty four film adaptation of Lord of the Fly. Ah.
Interesting, Yeah, I think I saw that in school and that was the beginning and end of it. Have you read Lord of the Flies? Yes, absolutely, I read. I read it a few times, like I read it when they made you, and then like yep, I often tell the tale. If you recall me finding a large stack of random books on a sidewalk in New York and I just picked them up and then decided I would read all of them.
That's how for you, That's how I read Twilight for the first time. But Lord of the Flies was in that stack, and I reread it then and I was like, oh wow, yeah. That great stuff. So that stuff yeah. Still the sixty four film I adore.
It's directed by Peter Brook, who was more of a stage theater guy than film guy. But the like story behind it was so great because it was going to be it was a very I mean because the novel it only was only about twelve years old by that time, and actually even younger because they filmed this a couple of years ahead, Like this had a wee route to actually get on screens, so it was like very publicized. Kids were sending in letters to be in the movie. The boy who played Piggy like wrote this like heartfelt letter about like how like I am chubby and ReSpectacle, so I feel like I should play Piggy. And when Peter Brook filmed it, like he wanted to essentially like turn the kids into the characters, so they were kind of remote from adults.
I think they were like on an island filming it. So a lot of the actress have said like, yeah, I kind of became Jack. I kind of became like part of this side and the film it's black and white. There are some just striking imagery in how he shoots things and how he stages things. It is like suffocating, and yet it's on a beach, Like I don't know, it's one that I think of a lot as a movie that could be could read today.
I think if you kind of put it on in passing, you can feel like, oh, it's a kind of a stuffy adaptation of a you know, it's a very British. It's obviously adapting a classic novel. But I think like as soon as you kind of sit down and actually watch how he's choosing to do it, I think it is something. There is some chaos to it and beautiful composition to it that I feel, oh, is a good watch and I think I'm going to rewatch it soon since it's been a while. Yeah, I was a child when I watched it.
I'm there's no doubt in my mind that's a great movie. Though, Like, so, I don't know, does it upset you? Is it like as. I'm all, I mean, I'm its piggy. Yeah, we're piggy.
Yeah. Yeah, especially because you're watching it, We're like, yeah, i'd be piggy. I mean obviously absolutely so. It always and again, the first telling of this I saw, I saw the ninety film first. I saw it in the theater, and that's one that I have not rewatched either.
But I am so it's been thirty three years probably since I saw the nineteen ninety adaptation, and I can still remember exactly either sh like and I mean, if you know the story, I can remember the shot of the shot that upset me so much, and I can't. It's not quite as as Grizzly in the sixty three adaptation, but it's still like it's there and you see glasses like it's all you need to know what's going on, and yeah, it's it's upsetting because it is a story of you know, society gone amuck, but done through the you know symbolism of it being little boys and yeah good stuff. Yeah, yeah, very relevant. Yeah, I mean the fog. It's one of my yeah movies that are mostly weird coastal town movies, yep, which it is.
But I mean, he finds her Son finds the sign on the beach, like he's on the beach, there's there's there's. This one is thin. I will admit that it's thin, but but like I do feel like when I think beachy stuff, I think of I think of Stevie Wayne, I got so I did, and it's a great movie. It is. It is almost for me, so I'd say it.
I think the last time I watched it, I went, wait a second, this actually is a good movie. Like I didn't, I guess, I don't know if this ever. Has this ever happened to you? Have you ever seen a movie so many times, especially when you were younger, that you never actually sat and paid attention to what it was about. Yes, that happened.
That happened to me semi recently, one of maybe the second to last time I watched The Fog, I went like, ha, this is a good movie. I had not watched it in a long time. And I remember watching it maybe I don't know at this point, probably twenty years ago, and not loving it and not but then not remembering why and just thinking all all this these past twenty years, especially the way it is such a movie for so many of our friends and kind of Erica and we Brandon and I had just watched like another Carpenter. I think we watched Somebody's Watching Me and it was on either Criterion or Shotting. It was on Criterion.
I said, I'm like it was October. I'm like, let's watch the Fog tonight, Like I want to turn off the lights. I want to watch the Fog. And I was so excited in the first like five minutes, I was, Oh, I was so wrong about this movie. This movie is perfect and there's so much good about that.
I mean the soundtrack I would listen to anytime. Adrian Barbo, Yes, queen perfect in the movie. But the movie kept going and it kept going, and then it ended, and I looked at Brandon. I'm like, damn it, it doesn't get there. It just doesn't get there.
I'm confused by it. It doesn't live up to that what it establishes in the beginning. It spreads over time too much. There's too many rules that don't make sense and aren't it resolved. And I was sad because I really wanted to find to be proven wrong and like find myself saying like, no, I was wrong about the Fog all these years.
But I don't feel like I think I understand it working, it being something very important to people. There's some great filmmaking in it, but I don't think it comes together as a movie. And I'm sad about that. I mean, I don't. I don't disagree with you.
It's it's it's never been like a top Carpenter for me, like at all, not even in the top five probably, But it's it was like the last couple of times I watched it, I got it more than I initially did, because I have found it previously to be deeply boring and I don't particularly love and I think I like gas lit myself into forgetting sometimes how much of the Tom Atkins, Jamie Lee Curtis stuff there is because none of that really works for. Me, and it doesn't make sense in the movie. It doesn't neither of their characters really makes sense for being there in a way it shouldn't. They shouldn't be in there, I. Think, and I don't know that they need to be because we established like so much other stuff, like the weather Guy and Stevie and like other people in the town.
I mean, but like, I get it. I do agree with you though about it, maybe not being like if I had to pick one Carpenter movie to watch the rest of my life, it would not be this one, right, Why anybody would make me do that? But if you had to make one set on the beach, you're probably good. Yeah, absolutely all right. So after this, I have a bunch of all my subcategories of different honorable mentions and rules and all that.
So do you have any more like in your proper list? Uh? No, I mean I have one more weird coastal town movie. Let's hear it. It's Messiah of Evil.
Oh such a good. Oh yeah, so I did actually sit and watch this. It's I could hear the waves a lot, and like they talk about going down to the beach a lot, and then at the end like they really are at beach. Yeah, but like, yeah, this one's thin thinish shit. This is not really a super beach movie.
But I think about this is when I think about a lot. Yeah, I need to watch this again. It did you watch like a different not cut of it? But I know I initially watched it on It might have been Amazon, but I'm pretty sure it was like whatever the like low grade print that's been out for a long time. I know there is like a big box set with a resk restoration and everything.
Did you did it look really good or did it still kind of look muddy? No? It looked really good. Okay, I need to watch the better version of it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is what I watched.
It looked phenomenal. Yeah, it's so good. I love this movie and I've only seen it one time, but it has stuck with me deeply. Wow is this on two B two? This might be on tub too, But I cannot speak to the quality of what.
I would on TV to anybody, don't. This is a movie that is best watched like with the lights off on. It a like an afterno can it's a good after It doesn't have to be like Pitch Black, but it is a movie. Like give yourself to this movie. Let this movie take you because it it is slow, but it is weird.
How it like kind of how that the creepiness like drills into you. And you owe it to this movie to let it take you. Yeah, if you if you are any type of fan of small weird towns or weird. Such a good such weird small weird town well, I mean. Truly the mold everybody else's kind of I feel like a lot of things are are stealing from this woman.
I'd agree, Yeah, but it's very much agree. Oh my gosh, And you should rewatch it so we can talk about like the weird like room or house her father father, that's oh, so many strange paintings. It's like I want to live there. Just the set design is weird, just in a way that doesn't that feel off. That's oh, it's so good.
Love it, love it, love it. Okay, let me hear your weird ones or your ones with asterisk. Okay, So first I have two that are just like they're not set fully on a beach, but they Okay, First, there is just a moment on a beach and it is all of probably I don't know, ninety seconds, but it's I think it's the only ninety seconds of beach time in a what are We at eight movie and counting franchise. It's a franchise that has never gone to the beach because it is set very very specifically in the suburbs. But my favorite installment of this movie, controversially because most people don't consider it the best, the fourth installment in this popular franchise has one dream sequence on a beach, and I have, of course talking about Nightmare and Elm Street Part four, the dream Master.
That's that's what I thought you were talking about, but I wasn't one hundred percent so I didn't yell it out. It just gives us this one moment of Freddy on a beach. No, that's honestly fair. That's good, good reason. Yeah, and it yes, since like we had, you know, in the day, they weren't memes, but I feel like there were, like there was merch of like Freddy like with a you know, like drinking a martini or something, get a colada on the beach.
Like it just for one minute you had Freddy in a setting that was like, yeah, this makes sense. Yeah, I think that's that's that's solid. And then I had another one that was I thought might come up on your list because it's a newer movie that you turned me onto, and it is set near a beach, but the beach kind of comes in the beginning, comes at the end, and it's very important to the movie. Uh. But again, it just I'm like, this isn't I wouldn't think of this as a beach movie, per se.
I'm talking about Shutters Influencer. Yes, so Influencer and Sweetheart. Yeah, Sweetheart is on my honorable mentions. Yeah, we're both. I was kicking around both of them.
I said to myself self, you should rewatch influencer and I didn't get around to it, but yes, one hundred percent I love that movie. Talk about a movie I think about all the time. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. That's such so good. Yes, one hundred percent.
Absolutely yeah. And Sweetheart is a I don't think it's well, it's good. I don't think it's great. And it's very good. But as a like this is survival on a beach, I feel like it does so many things right because it pulls out all the things of like, oh, gee, if you were dropped on a deserted island, how do you survive?
Oh and now there's a monsters now to how to survive this? And so it hits all those things of like these are this is all you have? You have sand, you have, you know, you have sticks, like you have coconuts, Like it's gonna be hard. And I appreciate that. Yeah, definitely worth mentioning.
If I had, if I hadn't indulged in my Creepy Town list, I probably I probably would have included Sweetheart another one. I have the urge to rewatch because you're right, it does do so many things in that life singular kind of location that a lot of other movies can't figure out. I mean even the movie cast Away, right, which is it? I've never seen. I saw it once.
I saw it like Christmas Day when it came out, and I remember getting so mad because what that movie does is it? And again, it's a good movie, it's a well made movie. But you get him like on the beach and he's kind of figuring out how to survive, and then it just the screen card comes up and it says three years later and we see him still surviving and now he's very skinny, and you're just like, but wait, what about those three Yeah? And you find out all this shit did happen, and you're like, but why didn't you show me that instead of just telling me that. So cast Away from Me has always been frustrating because it didn't understand what was so interesting about it set up.
To me that that is interesting, and any desire I ever had to maybe ever take a look is now diminished. It's fine, I like it, though, it's good. I've got a few more in random ways, but how about you throw some more at me? Well? I mean, I only was gonna mention this as like a I felt like, and I feel heartened by the fact that a lot of yours are also genre movies.
And I was like, well, what is a non genre like horror movie that I can talk about? But I will say, and this is more of a blanket statement. So if you're not familiar with the Andy Sidaris movies, Andy Saidaris movies which start out with things like Malibu Express and Heart Tickets to Hawaii, which are like actionly. Hard Ticket to Hawaii. I still that song in my head.
So they're like body kind of action movies, which do after about twelve movies kind of degrade and to just like boog movies. But again I'm not complaining about that. We're currently doing another rewatch of all twelve movie they are in these are inherently beach movies. Everybody Everybody's always in the water, and I will and I will give some suggestions. I will say, heard take it to Hawaii and Malibu Express.
Really you kind of can't lose with those. And then Dallas Connection. I know it's in the name Dallas, but there is beachy stuff in it. And then also Savage Beach again right there in the name. But that one's not maybe my favorite, but if you want me to be like literal about it.
There's a beach right there. So these are more like sun and the fun action, like the kind of explosion movies, and and I feel like we should. I felt like I needed to represent that side of me, as well as the fact that every movie I picked is a. Harm I respect and appreciate that. Thank you.
I have two non genre movies on here that are like, here's okay, this is the category I told I titled as bea in the title of Beaches. In't a big part of these movies, but I really like them. Okay, So I like. You hated it one earlier, which is we're talking about beaches, but not the movie Beaches, which is a movie we did on this show some time ago. I love Beaches.
I grew up with Beaches, I can without realizing it. I work quotes from that movie into my life every single day, all through winter. Whenever in my old apartment, I would always like clang like gently and just scream send the heat up, even though nobody hear me. But yes, part of the whole thing of me talking about beaches, I don't think. I don't think of Beaches as a beach movie.
I think of it as a New York City movie because it really only it starts at the beach, like they meet at the beach under the boardwalk, but it couldn't have to, Like they could have bumped into each other in a department store and it would have been the same story. And it ends on the beach, So beach is a big it's like there, but it's not really a beach movie, despite the title Beaches. Similarly, another film I admire deeply based on a novel that I really really like, and I there's another mini series of it and we'll probably be more tellings of it. This is On the Beach the end of the world. There's a a virus has released been released which has just been killing everybody continent by continent, and Australia is the last one to go.
And so the movie is the last couple of months of Australia before everybody dies. And it's called on the Beach, and there's some beach in there, but it's not really about the beach being on the beach. So I kind of feel like I had to say it, but I also had to have the caveat of like, look, this would be if we're doing Apocalypse movies. This is probably on there, but as a beach movie, it's not really a beach movie. It's you get into these situations, right, and it's like you have to have some kind of parameters for yourself or like when does it end?
It's just chaos then cloverfields of each movie. I don't know. Well, I just saw that on my shelf, so said, I. Guess it's I mean, if you want to consider like New York City because he's surrounded by water. But no, exactly, No, it's not a no, I thought.
Briefly, I was like Grace too, and then I'm like, no, there's a luau, but the luau is in the high school football field. That's not a beach. So no. Then I had a few more honorable mentions of movies that like, I, well, there's like one or two that I was like, I think I've only seen this one, so I don't think I can put it here. Blue Crush was one.
Yeah, that was kicking around my early list. I remember really enjoying it. I do too. Yeah, it's it's a great. It is smarter and kind of more real then I think I had expected it to be.
I think it really respects like female athletes and surfers, and also like Hawaiian culture. It feels very much a movie made in Hawaii about Hawaiians, even if you know most of the cast is not. And it also like there's something of blue Crush. I remember it feeling very lived in as far as like, yeah, they're all covered in sand and they're walking around and flip flops like there was a there's like it's very beachy. It's just I've only seen it once, so I didn't necessarily feel like I could speak overly to it.
Psycho Beach Party, which again we covered way way long ago, is a fun one and it's very beachy. With that being said, something that's not on my list. I have actually never seen like a beach blanket bingo Frankie. In Anette movie, not for I think when I was like younger, I had very square grandparents, So I know that that was something that has been put into my face at one point, but I have no recollection of it. Yeah, I can't actually speak to them, so, but I mean I've seen Psycho Beach Party, which I think is kind of a parody of them.
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Uh, Summer school was my like summer vibe beach movie because I think he lives in a beach house. I think there's a lot of beach around it. But it is not good, you know, I think that's true. Yea, yeah, it's it's set in summer school primarily, but it's very like California eighties beach to.
Mem I think that's fair. Yeah. And then, as I mentioned at the beginning, no beach list is complete without the dumbest horror movie that isn't Old, The Sand about Killer Sand. You talk about it a lot. I know I talk about it too much.
I think, no, no, no, I think at some point I have to give in. It's just dumb. It's just dumb, and it's it's very cgi beach alien things ripping the skin off of very attractive young people at the beach. It was exactly what I needed in a dark time in my life. And I will always think be thankful for that movie for that.
Yeah, I understand. So that's the one you said you weren't sure if you ever wanted to re No, no, no. The Jersey Jersey Short Shark Attack is the one that, like, I'll be sad if it's not good. The Sand, I don't think is going to be good. If I rewatch it, a Jersey short shark attack would like hurt me a little bit if it wasn't as fun as I thought it was.
Yeah, I do fully fully understand that. How about you any more beach watches to add? I don't think so. I mean, you really did. Hit a lot of stuff that I was kind of on the fence about or like, wasn't sure I wanted to commit to which I had a feeling was gonna happen, which was good.
I mean, you really covered me on that one. I don't think so. I will say that this was as it as the boat one was. It really made me kind of investigate the types of movies I watched, because there's like that Leonardo DiCaprio movie that's like literally called the Beach. The Beach.
Yeah, and like, but again heartened to see that you didn't include that necessarily. It's just it's fun where the mind goes when prompted with something like this. Mm hmm, yeah, oh it is. It's just just has been such a fun exercise. I look forward to our next list, whatever that may be.
It's a good time, I know it. And I also really look forward to making you watch the movie Old I. You know who else is really going to be excited? Zach? Zach is going to be really exciting.
Has seen it? No, but he's wanted to. And then I kind of bitched him out of it. I was like, I don't want to watch a movie and I'm not gonna, you know, one of those, and so I think he'll be really happy here. Should that just be our next episode?
Should it be Old something else? Let's let's do it. Okay, all right, we'll think of what we're pairing it with. But there you go. Folks.
Your homework for next time is to watch Just turn on the sci Fi channel at any given time and this movie will be on. I promise you. I'm glad it's found its audience. I guess yes. It's either that or a Harry Potter movie on the sci Fi channel, which is which is neither side.
I don't do this programming, okay, I just happened to. I'm paying for cable. I feel like I need to get the most out of it, so I often put something on and I get it. It's usually Old. It's like how the Learning Channel is actually just all ninety day fiance.
Though they it's not called the learning channel anymore right now, it's just TLC. I mean, we all know what that stands for. Do you know? Do you think kids today do? No?
But that's probably why I refuse to call it anything but the learning channel. I mean like a see right, Like do do the young people know that that used to sand for American movie classics? No? Probably not. Oh wow, we're old, we're ald like the next time, the morning day.
All right, folks, put on your sunscreen and thank you for joining us. Goodbye. All you want a stopping, no thoughts, swell line of treatment and sign you see? Do you be the start off? And it's so hard.
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