188. Thumbs Up Catchup

Weary wave media. Recruiting in progress. Hi Zoom, Welcome to the feminine critique. I'm Emily, I'm Christine. Sorry, We're just we're starting, and I'm already mad at Zoom zero things and weird places.

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That we actually want to talk about as opposed to just a whole giant list of stuff. Yeah. I can't speak for you, but I decided to do a thing where I was going to watch one hundred horror movies between August, September and October. Yeah, I definitely didn't do that. So I made a choice, and it's a weird one.

And I have a lot of things that I've watched and not all of them or most of them are worth talking about. So there's no point in punishing both of us one dred unless there's anything you need to warn us about. Maybe you can like run through a list of things that you just want to steer us away from. If there was anything that was like super Bad or super if anything you regretted watching. If I come across anything, I'll let you know.

But it's been it hasn't been that bad. Thingsful, that's good, good, gree good. I won't say this is the theme of mine because it only covers about a couple of things on my list, but one of the things I have done more lately weird crazy, hold, sit down, sit down, everybody. Oh, I've gone to the theater a few times. Oh, that's exciting.

Oh yeah, yeah, and like some time because it was oh there was like a director, Q and A, or there was a special screening, and sometimes it was like, no, it's a new movie in the theaters and we'll go see it. And I just what can I say? Who am I anymore? So that happens when the sky goes away? You just can't predict it.

Well, theater, Gurley, I have seen and this is exciting. I don't know if you have any Regals near you, Regal Cinema. Honestly, I don't know if I do. I think there is a lot in Long Island. I don't know if there are many up in Westchester.

I can't think of any. Well, I know some of the chains are doing some special October stuff, but Regal specifically is doing a different classic horror movie every night in October. Oh he like Scream and like, uh now I've completely blanked on the other thirty movies, but I are you no, but like New Nightmare and a night Prime Nightmare on Elm Street. It's just a lot of like like, I don't think I saw Scream on in the theater, or so it would I am entertaining. Maybe going to a handful of them, and I think they have like reduced pricing too.

I'm not a regal shill, but like if you're if anybody else is feeling in the theater mood, I think checking out something uh classic would be. Fun that I'll why don't I start with one of the things that I did then, because that is one of the things I did. It was not horror. But so I have this really great movie theater near me that I've talked about a few times. It's the Jacob Burns Film Center, and it's a nonprofit movie theater.

It is a lot of art house stuff, but they also like they'll show new movies, but they'll also show like just a lot of international movies and just stuff that it's very hard to find elsewhere. And they do some special screenings and I have two on here that I went to. But the first one I saw that were not actually it wasn't. It was like two weeks ago, week ago, I don't know what time is anymore, but it was a they were doing a Robert Altman month, and this was a like I don't think of myself as a big Altman fan because I really have not seen that many of his movies, but it was a like, oh, wait, they're showing Popeye, which my husband is a giant fan of. Oh Popeye?

Did you grow up watching it? Uh? Yes, but like, against my will for lack of a better framing, it was not a I didn't like Popeye yep, like the cartoon, it was just not appealing to me as like a tiny person. Sure, and then like then there's this movie that is like a less fun version of the thing I don't like. But like as an adult, I've watched it and it is it is strange, and the commitment to it is really really like, I don't know, uh, endearing, I guess, yes, so like I have, I do see it.

I get it. But like when I was a kid and it was around, they also used to make me watch them the Muppet frog prints, and that bored me to tears too, So it's just like, look, no accounting for taste when you're a youth. Oh but bait. The Muppet frog Princes are the Robin Williams fairy Tale theater frog. No, the Muppet Frog the Muppet frog Prince.

Yeah right with sweet Ems he's in that one. I believe you. We should cover it for the show. Oh definitely, because funny enough fairy Tale Theater, which is Shelley Duvall, yes, also a Popeye. She has a one of the episodes is The Frog Prince, and the Frog Prince is played by Robin Williams, who was also Popeye.

So that's what I thought you were mixing the two up. Look it, I accidentally connected something that I didn't know I was connected. Fascinating. So I saw Popeye as a kid, didn't think much of it. Rewatched it with Brandon maybe ten years ago or so, and like, don't really remember watching it, but I wanted him to go see it, and I wanted to see it with him because they were also doing a Q and a after with one of the actors in it who was also kind of a sort of a producer on it.

So it's Alan Nichols, who did a lot of Robert Altman stuff and worked with him in a lot of movies. And so we went to see Popeye in the big screen. Not a huge audience, but like a full enough audience that you could hear reactions, and there were kids there too, which was great. And I gotta tell you, I fucking love Popeye. I didn't know I loved Popeye, but seeing it like sitting down in a theater and when that movie opens, like this is one of those like you know what, you talk about about it a lot with like Shakespeare movies where it's like the first five minutes you're sort of like tuning your ear to it to make sure because you don't understand it at first.

And I mean this is a movie where like, yeah, you can't understand what Robin Williams is saying until at a certain point you can. And it opens, it's a human cartoon, it's everybody is screaming, it's a lot of slapstick, which are all things that I am not normally a fan of. But it like five minutes in and you realize like, oh no, I get what's going on. And now I'm looking at every frame of this movie and seeing something. And I have never laughed as hard watching it, Like I was cackling because there were just beasial jokes that I had never like gotten before and never really realized before.

And it was just an absolute delight. And afterwards, like there was a Q and A like it was a really like again, anybody in the New York area, like check out the Jacoburns Film Center because it's such a great place and they do cool things. And with this like instead of like a big Q and a in a kind of like half empty theater, it was like, Okay, we're going upstairs to the little like wine bar area. Everybody sit around a table with this guy and talk to him. And he was so neat because he was He's got great stories.

He's really funny. He had some great Altman stories, and it just it also kind of launched the week before I'll kind of do this one along with that, because we knew we were going to see him in person. And the first thing that's like on his resume I was working with Altman was Nashville, which I had never seen. Brandon had never seen. Had you have you seen Nashville?

Oh that's not really a Christine. You say that. I think you should watch it. I think you should watch it. It's on Criterion.

So Criterion Channel is conveniently doing a Robert Altman month as well. Wow, is there something is there? Like an anniversary or a birthday? I think it might be the one hundred. It might be I think it's Altman at one hundred, So I think it is would have been his hundredth birthday.

Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, And I mean Altman, I think he made it to like ninety or so, and he even like he had a heart transplant in the mid nineties. Like and again, like there's so many Altman films that I haven't watched or haven't like watched asn't with adult eyes. But Nashville, I think you would be surprised by what you get out of it. Karen Black is in it, love it.

Really everybody is in it. I mean all like the usual Altman people are, but you also have Keith Cartin, Lily Tomlin. It is an embarrassingly good cast. It is great music, even like if you're like, I'm not really a country person. Like it's also like some the music isn't great, and that's kind of the point.

It's and it's just such a like you know, the way Altman did so many other movies of Slice of Life, of this you know, here's this person into that person, into that person. But it's I don't know, I think it's riveting. Uh. And it's long. It is it's like two forty so it is a long watch.

But after like I don't know, twenty minutes, like you're not going anywhere, you are fully into it. So both of those I recommend revisiting if you haven't in a while. All right, I mean you sold me. I mean good movies are good, right. Yeah, And I mean Nashville was one that's always on a list of you know, like movies one hundred best movies or movies you need to see.

And I just same, like I thought, I'm like, I don't know, this doesn't really sound like my thing. I don't need like a three hour movie that's just like different people moving from one place to another. But it's it's great, and it the other this there's some weird timely miss stuff. The one thing I would say is that there's some political not political, it's not even political, but there's just some stuff that is maybe makes this both a more timely watch but also maybe one you wouldn't want to watch if certain things are going on. But it's not direct to that, but also feels like it's speaking to it.

So I don't know. All this is to say is Nashville is a great movie. Yeah. I mean the cast is bananas. You're looking at it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ronnie Blakely Baby Baby.

Nominated for an Oscar for it, and she's she's amazing. She apparently started as a country singer, like that was more what she was doing than acting. And she has a gorgeous voice. Oh and the music, like most of the music is written by the people performing it. So those are Ronnie Blakely songs that she's singing.

Karen Black sings a song Karen Black was a songwriter. Who knew. I didn't know. That's interesting, Yeah, I mean it seems interesting. We're doing this thing because I am packing the three months with horror movies, where November is just gonna be like a flush of every movie that's not a horror movie, though, I said, oh, we should watch watch it.

So like I have a list going of all the stuff. So who knows strange, strange things can happen after October. I like it all right, So give me one of yours? Which shall I go? Please?

So what is it Rocky and Bullwinkle that say now for something completely different? Or I don't this is this is such a tone change everyone. So one of maybe the best movies I've seen this year. On shut up, Okay, it's a. Movie called chad Gets the Axe.

Can't Sleep. I don't know it, so. It's an influencer horror movie. It was so good and so funny and so fun that I loved it so much and I'm looking forward to rewatching it. It will probably not hit for everybody, obviously, I reckonognize that, but like, we watch a lot of uh where we don't watch streamers necessarily, like in our home, but we watch YouTube personalities and YouTube essayists.

And also like it's kind of impossible to avoid just the way people interact with social media these days, like via TikTok and stuff. So like, these types of movies really fucking get me when they get it right, like the right personalities, the right tone. It's it is almost like more than satire or parody. It's like a snapshot of modern life in a way that like standard films aren't doing anyways. This one does it in a really fun way.

It reminded me a lot of dead Stream, but like okay, but not like it plays in the same sandbox, but it's not like the same thing. So is it would you call it horror comedy? Yes? Absolutely? The whole time.

There's like a chat running through the live stream. Okay, the chat is hilarious if you read it. I don't know, so like I said, if you are not if this is not for you, this is not for you, and I totally get it. It's just like my relationship with media. I think right now, these types of movies feel more reflective of like what I want to see.

Then I've been on a big found footage kick and it's just they're more compelling to me than like these kind of whatever big budget movies are coming out. Yeah, I can understand that. I think I am because I am not somebody that watch it or like I say, I don't watch influencers, but I probably do without realizing I do. I mean I generally watch just like dog and Tat videos, but I'm sure within that I'm probably like subconsciously buying at food because of it. But I think there is it's and I think sound footage is similar, where it is a particular type of person of personality that is really it's hard to nail because it's hard to do.

It's hard to do right and convey it or to make it fun to watch and not annoying. Like for me, there's like a line between when it's like, oh, I hate this person. I don't want to watch them, but good movies don't, like they get around that, even if the person like I mean and uh, the one you just said, the yes, that one where it's like, oh no, this guy's awful. But I am riveted because I I kind of want him to get a come up, and but also I'm he's funny and how awful he is. So there's an art to it.

And did you know there's a sequel to Influencer coming out soon? Yes, I'm so. I just recently, like wild Hair, rewatched the first one, yeah, because like I couldn't one hundred percent remember how it ended, and I was I was like, how could you love a movie so much and not remember how it ended? So I popped it back on and then like halfway through, I was like, what is she doing? I love this girl?

She's so good. It's great. And then I click in and I was like, wait, there's a new one. It was a very pleasant surprise. I cannot wait.

Same, I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah, So like when it works, it works, And like to your point about like dead Stream, the dude and dead Stream kind of being like purposefully over the top discikeable, like how a lot of like YouTube personalities or TikTok personalities can be chad gets the acts of similar like the dude kind of sucks and that's kind of the point, and it kind of plays with like the chat wants them to die sometimes and you're like, well, this is kind of inhumane, and. Guess it's it's just it's interesting, smart sounds smart about it. If you're very online like I am, you might enjoy it more.

But there are. Times when I watch to these movies where like I don't get, like I'm not gonna lie, I don't get things. I don't get acronyms like there are just because I like there are certain aspects of influencing and just like quote unquote being online that like I just because I'm kind of dissonant from it and trying to get more distant from it, Like I just sometimes really don't get something, but it can still be entertaining. Totally understand. So yeah, that's my first recommendment.

It's on shudder. If anybody's curious. Okay, I'm definitely gonna check it out. I'll do Okay, So I kind of made myself a goal yesterday at home randomly where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna because I've been slow to accept that it's autumn, which is weird because I mean, we're all like Halloween people, but just because I've been enjoying summer so much. It's my first year in the house.

I've been grilling all the time, and now it's like, I go to grill and I realize it's completely dark outside and it's hard to do that. So I've been holding off on it. But then finally yesterday I'm like, okay, fine, I'll drink the pumpkin spice. I will accept it, and with that randomly decided, you know what, it's weird that me Emily and Travia who there's certain things that like you associate with me maybe, or like things that like I kind of feel like I'm an expert on. And one of those is obviously horror, but specifically like killer doll horror, but also killer children horror, right, like I love an evil kid.

I liked this Blue Sky post already. I know what's happening, you know what's going on. I'm just so fucking excited, and it. Really it dawned on me yesterday that there are several Children of the Corn movies that I have not seen and that just seems really inacceptable, unacceptable at this point in life, that it's just no, no, no, I should know which one Aba Mendez was in. I should be able to call upon which one was clearly not a Children of the Coorn movie.

And they rewrote a script for it quickly, like Helarray's like, I should know these things. So decided yesterday I'm like, no, no, Like I need to go through and watch the ones I've missed, and then I'll go back and watch all the ones that I haven't seen in the while. So yesterday I ended up watching two of them. Uh So I went with I have a four pack DVD that has Children of the Corn three, four, five, and six on there, and three I have seen more than once because three is like the kind of the best sequel. Maybe it's the one with where it's in the city Urban Harvest.

And I don't think I've seen any of them. I mean, I think we could do one of those things where we do all of them. We a song. We could do it. Honestly, Zach would probably love it.

All right, we should think about. This okay, okay, so uh. And four is the one with new so oh fun fact, are least their own is in three? Not a big part but uh huh fun fact. Funner fact.

The lead of Part four is Naomi Watts. That's exciting. Uh huh. And I remember watching that one probably at this point, like twenty five years ago and being bored by it. So I'm like, I'm not gonna start with that one.

Let me start with one that I've never seen, which was five. Five is Fields of Terror, and then six is Isaac's Return. So part five has Alexis Arquette, Fred Williamson and Ava Mendez in her first film role. Uh, here's the thing about both of these movies, and six has uh, well, Isaac, So if John Franklin comes back, and he also was a co writer on they're not either one or what you'd call good movies. But watching that, I think they were ninety seven and ninety eight or ninety six and ninety eight.

So these movies are old now, right, These are almost thirty years old, And the thing is like, they're not boring, they they're not good. I'm being very clear about this. Neither one of these was what I would call good movies. I think Part six has some really interesting directorial choices. Okay, and I'm watching this, I'm like, you know, like the director has an eye here, Like there's some interesting angles, there's some this is a bad script, but like there's some cool things going on here.

And and I looked her up an interesting director, female director who did who's since done a lot of TV work and has been like very vocal about like women directing. So that was that was something I got out of that one. That's exciting. Yeah, oh uh nan, oh that's right. Part five has Nancy Allen and Sacy Keach, so there are some good faces to look for and part that's part six.

Part five is very dumb. The probably the biggest problem with is that the kids aren't like you need a scary kid. That is why the first movie is a flawed film. But it is scary. I will go to my grave with this.

There are very scary things in part one. And one of the reasons that film works in spite of it not being a good movie is that your two lead like children are terrifying. Isaac and Malachi are creepy, and they set a tone. And that's something that I think you lack. In almost every other one of these movies I have seen, the kids are just never scary enough, and that's very much the case in Part five and six, like you don't really have kids, which is a different problem.

But I don't know, Like, so this is a journey. We'll see where it goes. I am recommending them as a like, look, if you haven't seen these, they're very nineties. They're very direct to video nineties, so they are gory. They're doing some interesting visual things.

There's some wild prosthetics in part five stunt coordinator Caine Hotter. So like the actual like action does look pretty good. So I don't know, it's just kind of exciting. Yeah, I love it. I think it's a great project.

Yeah yeah, all right. Well I have something. M h. It's a soft recommend, but I want I thought it was and it was interesting because I kind of found it organically. So it's on to me.

And it's a movie called bed Rest it is. It stars Melissa Barrera. I've never said her name out loud. Is that her last name? I assume that's how you say it.

I've never been truer either. So I love her. I think she's talented, gorgeous, and she's a badass human. So I was like, I'm gonna watch this, and then as it kind of oh, it's about a lady who's pregnant, hence the dead rest, and I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna watch this unless it has a female creative tied to it, because I don't want to hear I don't want to see it, dude, do a woman on bed rest? So I look and I'm like, oh, okay, Laurie Evans Taylor, why does your name sound so familiar?

Laurie Evans Taylor writer director of this movie. She wrote Final Destination Bloodlines, Yes, which like you know. Me, You and you talked about how that clearly had like a very sympathetic I in that writer's room. Yeah, So it pushed me to watch it because I was like, oh shit, like okay, like this this woman is very good. Uh.

This movie is very explicit and not like explicit like sexually or violent or anything. I just mean like the plot of it, it's very on the nose. Is if you're afraid it's gonna be a is this woman being gas lit? Kind? Is she crazy?

Or is the house haunted? Movie you're gonna get answers, and I think to a degree, maybe that doesn't work in talking okay, but like I think it's super ambitious and weird and like it's a lady in a in an old, creepy house, and in that regard, like it gave me like amulent vibes. Okay, okay, which I like. I don't know, there's a lot to like here. I wouldn't say it was a total home run, but since.

It's on TV easy enough to access and give a go. To, yeah, I think it's worth it because, like I said, I think this Laurie Evan Staler lady is pretty to watch it. Yeah, yeah, well. That's exciting in its own way. Yeah.

Right, on the subject of female creators, I've got one Ooh again, a movie that by all accounts Emily and Trevia musical fans should have seen, but I had not. And I do this really annoying thing to my husband where I will So we're we have CABE right, We're paying for cable, so therefore I like try to get everything I can out of my cable subscription. One of the things that's greater about that is we get TCMH, which has a fan. I mean, it's great because I can catch up on things that like I've always had on my list that I've never seen. And also they have a lot of cult stuff that airrs like late Fridays and everything.

So what I'll do is just go to like the TV guide grid and go to that channel and just like hit forward to see everything coming on in the next like week before it blanks out. And it's very annoying to look at, but it's a great way of seeing, Like, Okay, what's a you hearing? Win? And I realize, you know what, this is my chance. I'm gonna record it.

I have never seen yental Oh cool? And now Christine and I can tell you I have seen Yentl. Are you a changed person? I fucking loved Yentl. That's so funny.

Well great. This goes back to my very uh smart observation of good movies are good like back when like move back when. I don't mean just I'm not even gonna finish this statement anyways, when a movie was was highly lauded and celebrated at one point in time, it was usually because it was actually fucking good, I guess, is what I'm saying. And you would have these something that I think, you know, we I probably constantly talk about of missing. It's like you have a movie that would come out that everybody would see, that adults could see and kids could see, and like you know that if you went to a dinner party, everybody in that room had seen Apollo thirteen or something like that.

Were these like kind of big and it's not like, oh, populist movies like no, but there's an appeal of a movie that is made to kind of please everybody and it's made well, that's important. That is something that we've lost. I mean, that's kind of it's kind of like a Seinfeld joke, like the English patient thing in Seinfeld, Like everybody's like you have to see we don't unless it's Marvel movies. And even then that's yeah, kind of waning or wasn't around that long. It's we don't really have like cultural moments that are all shared because we're so split off meeting.

I mean, it's why Barbenheimer was such a special thing, because it was did get people of every gender and every side to say, like, yeah, I'm going to go to the movies to see these things that everybody is talking about and it's just rare to get that. And I mean Yentel wasn't quite that, but Yandell it was a huge hit. It was you know, it was considered like one of the biggest films of it was an eighty six or eighty four. And it's just great. I mean, like, look, Barbara Streisan can fucking sing like it as she really can.

But she's great in it. She's so funny, she's so like she is rivening on camera. Mane. Even Tinkin is so fucking sexy in this movie. And it's this like really great, like rich story of a woman who in a man's world, who lives as a man in order to like get what she needs to get.

And it's also it's like romantic in a different way. It has a really satisfying ending. And I just was so like, I'm so glad I watched yentle So again much like Nashville, Like, Yandel's a great movie. Check it out. Yeah, I mean it's not surprising.

Again. I feel like it's like what one of those things where I always tell the story pink Flamingo, pink flamingos is the framing, but like, yeah, I do this thing where I'm like, yeah, I've read about it. Yeah, I know about it. I know all the reference I've seen the Simpsons. I get it, and then you watch it and you're like, oh, cras, I didn't.

Actually about this. Yeah, so I know it would totally be something like that. Yeah, that's exciting when that happens. It's always exciting when that happens. I love it.

Mm hm oh okay, is it my turn? It's okay. So this is on tub as well. Twob's are very good. Is great?

I love toob. So this is directed by Briggiero Diadado. We all kind of know Diadado, or at least we used to talk about him sometimes. So this is an Italian film, but it's also a slasher called body Count. Does it have like eight different titles?

Uh? I see it on the poster I'm looking at as body Count, Camping dell Terore. I it's probably the Italian title. See nineteen eighty six. I'm just cur yeah, Camping of Terror it's the other translated.

Just because a lot of his movies, I feel like, have a lot of different where it's like, oh no, I haven't seen that movie. Wait, you're describing a movie I've seen. Oh yeah, I hit a different name, so that's why I was curious. Yeah, so this is this is on two b. I didn't really know what to expect.

The reason I watched it is because Bruce Penhall was in it, and he's an Andy Sedaris guy. And the thing with Bruce is that like he was like a race car driver. I think, Okay, so. He always drives the motorcycles, like the little dirt bikes and motors, so he's like a vehicle guy. So I was like, what, why is Bruce in this movie?

What is he gonna do? Well, he rides a dirt bike the whole time. But it's also in set in Colorado, and there's these like grand sweeping views of like the Colorado wilderness. And also then it's like a really weird Italian slasher. It's a slasher, but also it's like not it's very strange, and since it's on TUBB, I think it's really worth looking up.

David Hess is in it, but like barely it like barely, it barely matters. Good good, yeah, good, good to note. But I enjoyed it quite a bit because you know, you're always looking for a slasher or like you're. Trying to find especially ones from that era that you've missed, and yeah, every time you think like, no, I'm a complete like I've seen everything, you're like, oh my god, noah. There are hundreds of movies from this era in this very precise subgenre that we did not see and they're all on two B which is great.

Yeah, it's it's it was a lot of fun, I think too, which is something Sometimes you'll get one and it's not fun, and it's like, this is still kind of supposed to be fun. And even with Diodado sometimes he can go a little mean nice if it sounds like it's not this is gonna be a good time. It's weird too, Like it's so like, yeah, if you watch it, if anybody watches it, let me know, because I enjoyed it nice. All right, I'll go to know. I'm gonna do a double pairing of without really meaning to.

I ended up watching two Alligator movies fairly close together. I watched one and then I was like, oh, Alligator's on shutter and I've never actually seen an alligator, so I should watch Alligator. But I watched Alligator after I watched Lake Placid for the first time. I recently rewatched Lake Placid, and it felt like I was watching it for the first time. Okay, let's talk about Lake Placid.

Let's do it, because I forgot or rewrote in my head so much of that movie. What what's going on in that movie? Like it's written by davidy Kelly. Yeah, Like and that's the one of the other things I've been like, so I started doing kind of as my like time killing while I'm doing other stuff. Is Ali McBeal is on Hulu and I was like, oh, like, I haven't watched this and since college, Like, let me see how this holds up.

And it's wild because some of it You're like, well this is you know, I see what it's trying to do. And then like I got I just got to an episode at season one and I'm like four episodes in. I'm like, oh, great, we're already hating fat people. Okay, maybe I need to walk away from this show. But like, that's the thing about davidy Kelly was he I don't know, he was a very much a TV writer.

He did a lot of things that were I think both like progressive and experimental, but also like really aged as soon as he did them and weren't probably quite as progressive as he thought they were. And I kind of watching Lake Placid, I'm like, what, Who's Who's trying to do what here? This is one of the weirdest scripts I have ever seen for a movie like this. The relationship center at in the movie is is very confusing. Everyone's tone around the relations but he's in a different movie.

Yeah, and it's like, uh, it's the I don't have no Bill Pullman and what's ther Fonda there? It is, thank you. I couldn't think of her name, but they're The tone of their relationship was like strange, and I guess she was supposed to be like a big city like ass, whole working woman, but she was just kind of like mean and cold and Bill woman wasn't even doing anything wrong. Now, Yeah, it was very because I think that's like what David Kelly was known for, was like writing these sort of complicated women who you know, were maybe like oh, when you first met them, you you they were too much, but then there were so much behind them. But it's like, no, this woman is just kind of a cunt.

Yeah, and it's just and she and she's awful. Like it's also like the movie is awful about her too, Like the movie is like it introduces her and she's, you know, this whatever scientist somebody somebody, and immediately the first thing that happens is a babyface Mariska hard Carta Day oh yeah is there and she's like, hey, by the way, I'm sleeping with your boyfriend who's also your boss. And like then it's like that's how the movie starts. And then Oliver Platt shows. Up as by god, what is he?

He's like trying to be doctor Ian Malcolm but but. More more also I don't know. And the alligator looked pretty good it did it? I think like the Betty White stuff, I feel like was very funny in nineteen ninety nine, but in twenty twenty five, when like we saw Betty White do that, then for the next twenty years doesn't land quite as effectively. But it's strange.

It is very strange. Yeah, And it was stranger than I remember it because I kind of remember it just as being like a throwaway kind of like thing that some people have nostalgia for that I never really did. And then I was like, what is this? Was? It always like this right.

Yeah, it's very odd and it actually makes a great pairing with Alligator. Ooh, I've never seen it, Like, oh Christine, oh, I feel like Alligator is made for you. So okay, Alligator is it's nineteen eighty I think so. It's a John Sales script. And so it's very like this movie on one hand, like it seems like it's dumb, but you can tell like, oh no, there are some jokes and references that like you can tell no, this is written by written by somebody who is smart and educated and and like winking the entire time.

And it's the director who did Kat's Eye and Kujo and I love Kat's Eye, so I will always be happy with that. Uh. You also have a relationship between a like science lady and a and in this case of cop, oh my god, it was like passage jeez, but like that relationship is sexy and maybe it's just me, but it's Robert Forster and apparently like this is the movie that eventually made Quentin Tarantino say I want him and Jackie Brown and you can kind of see it because he's like just a very odd leading man in this because he's just like he is not your typical like handsome guy. He's like shirtless so much any times in this movie where it just feels like they keep finding reasons for him to take his shirt off.

I love that and like not a sexy it's just like he's stills something on him, or he's in the hospital getting dressed. Like every time you're like did what's was it a bet? Like did he? Like? Was it like if the director out drank him then the next day you'd have to take a shirt off for a scene.

I don't know, but it's fun. Henry Silva's in it, Like a lot of random people show up that you're like, oh look it's oh look it's and there's some gruesome stuff. There's a great child death that is very handled, very well. So I had a blast with Alligator just and like by the end when the out when basically like things are just blowing up, is when I was fully I'm like, oh no, this movie knows exactly what it's doing and it's awesome. So I think you should watch Alligator.

It's on shoe Okay. I do like alligators, Like I think they're cute. Oh yeah, and they're fun fun monsters in movies. Too, because I feel like it'd be a very painful death. Oh yeah, that's true.

I was just more thinking of like a as a oh got a little bit to look at. But you're right too, well well, and Alligators isn't a spoiler because it's the opening of the movie. Like the reason we have a giant alligator is that like a girl has an alligator as a pet and her dad flushes it down the toilet and it turns in and it's in the sewer. So it's like that urban legend and it's like alligators in this movie too. So oh so good.

I love it. Yeah, what you got? Okay? So, hey, did you see the New? I know what you did last summer?

I did not, but you clearly did. I did. I did, and I don't know. It's not bad. It's not bad.

It was it was fun. I enjoyed a lot of it in there was like one of the New because it's a blend of like the you know, obviously there are people like the people that are still alive are back like Julie and uh what Ray? Because so is it a sequel to part two? Yes, Park three doesn't exist because in part three he's a ghost. We're not going to get at that.

Yeah. So the two human beings whose names I can't remember, but our characters are. Named Julie Oh, Freddy Frinz Junior. And there it is, and Jennifer Hut. So they're in it, which is fine, and I'm not going to spoil anything.

But there's so there's obviously like a smattering of new people, which is as they as we do in these things, and some of them are fun and compelling. Uh. And there's a really cool thing that happens that I got spoiled on, but I won't spoil anybody else. And there was a really fun character that died really early, but that's not a spoiler. I don't know.

It's just like there were elements of things that I really wanted to like, but then those were the things that seemed the most fleeting. I guess every time there was a cool character or a fun joke or a cool thing we were doing, it like stopped immediately. And yeah, so like something I wasn't interested in. I telt about the friend Friday the Thirteenth remake, they would yeah, and then they kill that person. Yeah, that's such a good example.

So there's that I'm not gonna spoil anything. There's just this character in it that's like supposed to be like an influencer, like like streamer, YouTuber kind of character. I don't really know how to classify her, but she was so fun and she's not in it a lot. Let's just say that, And it's just like why. And also I think this isn't a spoiler, but Jennifer love hewittt isn't in it a lot because it's more about the younger kids.

So yeah, it doesn't matter. She's just not And every time she's on screen, I'm like, why isn't this whole movie about her? Why isn't she just the only one in this movie? Just because like I feel like there wasn't a ton of work done to something that, whether you like it or not, something that I think the first new Scream does, Scream Prime, it actually does try to get you ingratiated to these characters. Like, yeah, it does.

Because I'm not again I'm not the a fan of like the new iterations of Scream, but I do agree. I think what Scream five Yeah does is it understands we need to create a new group for you, but we also know that half of the more than half the audience is coming here for Sydney and Gale and so on, And I think it does a really good way of weaving them together so that you're like, you're invested in both because you're invested in one or the other, and then it which is it well, And I think that's like one of the problems though, is and other movies are like, oh, that's what we have to do, But it's really about setting up a franchise now, so it's the young people that matter, and like you could make you could have made just a quick reboot if you just needed young people.

Like the reason people got excited about this is because driven Jennifer love Hewett. Yeah, and so to have her present but also not present, yeah, it's strange. And I and none of the characters, and it follows a similar format to the original obviously, so you're gonna lose some of the characters. So it's almost like I felt as though there was a bit of like who cares they're gonna go anyways, Like but like, I don't know why bothered that. Yeah, So I was a little disappointed, but like I will rewatch it, And now that my expectations are a little bit more level, I can I would maybe appreciate it more upon rewatch it is.

It is strange, it does strange things, So that reason I'd like to hear your thoughts on. Yeah, I knew I wouldn't see in the theater. It's one that I will when it comes to one of my streamers. I will sit down and watch it because I'm curious. But I also feel like I know I'm gonna go in with low expectations, so it might end up exceeding them no matter what.

Oh, you know another reason why I want you to watch it. I do so. I don't know if you saw the hubbub around Jennifer of Hewitt on the carpet, however, it was calling her. Fat, Yeah she like like a stunning, like a stunning forty two year old. Yeah yeah, so yeah, so in this movie you one would assume she has a similar body type, and she does.

They dress her like she's an asshole. And it made me so mad because because we are both I believe both larger chested, curvy or gals. I haven't called that yes to different degrees, but like we both lived this life. You don't pile clothes on people who have who have maybe like a larger bust, because all it does is make them look bulky. And so the whole time, I'm like, you have this stunning, hammer ready woman and you're dressing her like an asshole.

So I thought you might have feelings on that. Oh God, I'm gonna be so angry when I watched this. They like put her in like like like a casual T shirt with like a blazer over it. This is why suddenly we were talking earlier about how like the season is changing and I'm not ready for it and so on. But now I'm starting to think, like, you know what, maybe I'm ready for, like the Hallmark movies again, because say a lot of shit about these Hallmark movies and Hallmarker Jason, but Lifetime and so on.

They know how to dress women in their forties. Yeah, and you watch these movies and you're like, wow, I want that pea coat. Wow, I oh, that's what I should do with a turtleneck. Because they have women doing costumes for women like them, and they know what is flattering and it is. Jennifer love Hewitt looks great in her Lifetime movie last Year.

I'll tell you that much. But that and I bet you they like fucking knew how to put clothes on her. It was like it was like comedic. We we talked about it so much. The woman is in the movie maybe ten minutes, and we talked about how they dressed her for like an hour.

It was so annoying. I get it, I get it. Oh that's frustrating. Yeah, so there you go. Okay.

Well, one of the newer, uh general movies I saw last week. I went to see with my brother and my niece. We went to the theaters to see The Long Walk. Oh so I've heard a lot of stuff. What say you?

I think it was very good. I read the book maybe about five years ago, and I like the book a lot. It's my kind of book, it's my kind of story. And what was really fascinating to me going to see this movie was I knew it was Francis Lawrence, who I knew was Hunger Games, and I'm watching this movie and I had to remind myself, like, oh, but he's Hunger Games too on because something this movie does. I think that actually that aside from like, oh, obviously it makes sense that you would get a Hunger Games director for this because it's a very similar concept.

It is dystopian future young people being forced in this strange game where they're all going to die but one and watching. And something that I think the first Hunger Games movie does, which is not this director, that's Gary Ross, that I think the movie got criticized for, but I think it does really well because the Hunger Games keep showing up on cable, so I have them on in the background a lot when I cook. And what the first film does is it establishes the sort of dust bowl depression District twelve landscape to me really effectively, where it's this very like Shirley Jackson inspired lottery type heels nineteen thirties and like. And it could have been much bigger, and I think the Francis Lawrence films go much bigger.

But the Long Walk could also be done as a very like in the book, you have a little more of like not specifically a TV presence, but it's a little clearer that the whole nation is watching this event. And what this movie does that's really interesting because it's Francis Lawrence and not Derek carry Ross, is it makes it much in it you don't get flashes to people watching. There's no TV screens, there's no cameraman, there's no there's none of that. It is just focused on these boys doing this walk, which is I think an approach that works because I think we've seen the other version of this a lot recently, so to just make it very stark and very you know, very plain. They're walking through a landscape that doesn't really change because they're just walking through miles an hours, they're not going that far.

Like. All of that I think is a really like it's actually a bold choice in not being not making a giant choice. Yeah, And I think that works really effectively. I think the kids are great. The two main leads, the Philips and marsham rof and Son and the other boy whose name I forget, who's on the Industry, which is a show that I tried to watch, but I I don't know if I just don't get it because I find it dull.

But he's great. It's a very it's not it for it being what it is. It is not mean in terms of it would have been very easy to make these Yeah, it would have been very easy to make these characters vicious and to have a villain and this and that, and even when you think you're getting that, like the movie kind of moves with that in ways that I kind of matched the book. But you didn't have to go that direction in film, Like you could have made it easy to hate this one kid and wait for this one kid to fall, but it doesn't do that, and I I found it really effective. I thought it was as good an adaptation of this material as one could make.

Yeah, that's interesting. So you quelled a lot of my like reservations or concerns, like I have no desire to see this movie if it's mean spirited, right, this this story, but the way people had been reacting and responding to it made me think that that, like that wasn't the case. So often, I think we're finding step for me, at least, Stephen King's stuff is made or broken by who's doing it. Yeah, and it's not one hundred percent a hit or one hundred percent a miss for me. It's really dependent on who's handling it.

So it sounds like it's the best case scenario for it to I think so good. Yeah, yeah, I think I mean writing there's the pressing stuff. Here, but I think it really like holds onto its heart in a way that I think could have turned Like there's probably some people out there that are like, ah, but I think that is really important and I I don't know, like I was really happy with it, and I think it could have gone a lot of different directions. So I do recommend it. I will be watching it when it's available, for sure, get it.

This is not my pick, but I just wanted to throw out there that I recently rewatched the entire Legal Lear's mini scenes. Oh my god, I visually think about those monsters once a week. It's so good, Like I stand by it. It's not good, but it's so good. And that's all I'm just saying, Like I like, sometimes I like Stephen Kingshit, man, I don't like Stephen Kingshit direct from the source.

I need it to be cut and sometimes and sometimes it's cut just so. I need Belkie and I need cgi cartoon monsters. I don't. I guess it really could just be like because I saw it when I did, like when it aired, it like it imprinted on me, and so watching it now, I'm like, oh my god, I remember certain things word for word. I don't know, man, that movie is something else.

I think. So there's there's so many because I I don't think I watched that more than like one and a half times, and I read I remember reading the book that was like that might have been my first Stephen King. Actually, now what I think about it cool. I remember at summer camp. I had taken like four past midnight with me to summer camp, and so it was very impressive.

It was like a giant book, and I was, you know, a little nerd. I will never forget obviously balky and when you actually see them, because I remember reading that book and picturing the monsters and like that's kind of what I landed on and I'm like, but it can't look like this. And then when I saw on the miniseries and like, oh no, they just went for it. And I remember when I forget what actor is playing the like Australian, I can't remember, but when he is flying the plane at the end, and I just will always remember his line reading of it's beautiful, yeah, bloody beautiful. Uh Mark Lindsey Chapman.

Do we know who that is? Oh? I guess he was in Titanic. I've never seen it, so I don't know that's right. One day, We're gonna do Titanic one day.

Yeah, there's just certain line readings. H Dean Stockwell's also in it. And David Morse I'm now just talking to. David Horse is the pilot, right yep. And Bronson Pinchot as deferly mentioned.

And it's super super super low budge. But that's not like the point. It's like the concepts. Man, it's such a great concept, like. The Langoleers come and eat the past when it's expired, man, and they got on a time.

It's so good. Yeah. And I loved the book or the short story because it's like the way they describe how like something is wrong here and they talk about how when you eat food but it doesn't it doesn't satisfy and it doesn't have flavor like it's I mean, like every so many Stephen King properties. It's a great idea with a bad ending, but it's that's something that is something I so. Yeah, I don't know, it's fun, I guess.

So I watched a nineties mini series that I'd like to mention, Oh do it okay, So, as you know, my husband and I enjoy our dinner with an episode of Jeopardy that has been their routine for many years now. However, this cruel thing happens in August where Jeopardy goes on hiatus and suddenly we're left thinking what do we do when we eat dinner? So my husband had been watching on Canopy a bunch of these sort of like lectures about different Like there was this great lecture series about Merlin and about like King Arthur, legends and stuff done by this really appealing, very funny like professor who would just talk about Merlin and everything. And I would watch it a little bit with Bretton who's watching them, And I'm I'm like, you know, I used to love the nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety eight I think miniseriies Merlin.

I wonder how that holds up? And sure enough it's on Amazon Prime. So I'm like, you know what we're gonna do instead of Jeopardy. We're gonna rewatch nineteen ninety eight's three episode NBC produced Merlin. Do you remember when this air?

Did you watch it? So pretend like I haven't picked up my phone yet to look into this. Hold, Okay, I head right there, all right, I don't know what you're talking about I was like, TV. Wait, okay, in the nineteen nineties, right, miniseries were a thing, is it, Sam Neil Ah, No, I've never heard of this. Oh my god.

Okay, so the year's nineteen ninety eight, and you well, ah, keep looking down that casker all there. I just I just saw rugger Hower. This is ridiculous. Yep, yep, Miranda Richardson, sure, Martin Short, you just made the car let a heady. This isn't real.

And then everybody that eventually had like small roles in Game of Thrones is in this show at yeah. Uh so this again, the nineties was like a great era for TV miniseries. You had at the stand you had And nineteen ninety eight, NBC decided to do Merlin and I was like talking about this very fondly because I remembered how excited I was because I was a big Entertainment Weekly kid. So there was a big article about this show coming out. I'm like, oh my god, fantasy.

We never got fantasy in that era that really like was considered a money loser and it was expensive to produce. But NBC did the show and it was and it was a hit. And then they did like The Odyssey after and a few other with diminishing returns. They did the Glorious Travels with Ted Danson. Oh I remember that though, Yeah, that came.

After Merlin because Merlin was a hit. Uh so Marland and it's great, like the it's Merlin, you know it's and it's very it's you know, it is according to the legend. So it's all the the things that happen in the story and so on, and there's Lancelot and everything else. But it's such a good cast. They're treating the material very seriously.

It looks gorgeous. A lot of the effects look really good, Like the makeup looks great. There's Cgi that's very ninety CGI, but it's you know, as you expected to be ninety CGI. And this was just like for me because I did watch it a lot, like I recorded it on DHS, so I like remember like watching in college. I really enjoyed revisiting this.

I mean, I can't kind of see why it's not really a thing that we do. And with that big fat cast and like all those spaces, it is kind of like a bit of an oddity time capsule now, right, Like that's not really how when you see a big, fat cast like that, it's usually like, you know, like a Marvel movie or something like yeah, that's interesting. Or it's like an HBO limited series likestigious. And this was done for you know, the eight PM Crown, and I thought it held up pretty well. You know, that's interesting because this is now the second time we've kind of ventured into this point.

It's a real shame that they don't make quality things that are accessible to a wide range of audiences in age groups. Yep, everything is so like hyper niche. Yeah, and then if it's not, it's like Yellowstone where. Which it ends up being like not niche, but just ends up like being this one like Calf of the Country. No, it's a very good point.

I wish, I wish for things that were like like Merlin. While not challenging, is also like a bit challenging. It's a big concept, a big world, and it can be unfamiliar and also it's got like an interesting tone. It can be very fantastical but very serious. Man, what are we doing?

I mean, I guess like Game of Thrones kind of was that. I think I would. Argue that's not that's not accessible because of the sexual undertones too true. This is true because you wouldn't like give that to like a twelve year old. No, and you have people walking away from it because of it.

So that's so interesting. Yeah, I have a movie I want to hear it. I think it's on Shutter, but I think it's other places. I had never heard of it. It's a from nineteen eighty seven.

It's called The Outing, Outing, but I also believe it's called the Lamp, the Lamp, and it's more about the lamp isting. Oh no, oh, oh my, just twenty eleven's the Lamp. It looks like it has one of ID to watch this movie now. It looks like a genie movie with a dog and the poster is a kid with a backwards cap and then a bunch of other actors with Lewis Goss Junior and Jason Lundon and Meredith Salinger and I need to see this movie. But continue about the Outing slash Lamp, because that's probably a more enjoyable moving for most of our audience.

What that Yeah, nineteen eighty seven, So it's about they apparently claim to be in high school, but they're full ass adults. This group of people that decide to stay overnight in a museum. But the museum is like the Houston Museum of like Natural History, which I've been to, so it was really cool to see. But also they're really in the museum, so it's kind of got like chopping mall energy in that regard, like because they're really in the mall, you know, at night, so they're really in this museum, and like I think one of the girls's father found a lamp that has like a thing going on with it and she gets possessed by I don't know. It's very cool.

There are parts of it I don't remember because I watched it late at night, but it's very strange and I think it's worth watching, especially especially if you have any type of ties to the museum itself Houston or Texas. It's got that feel. But also if you just like movies where people are in an interesting place, which I think we both. Oh yes, yeah, it's it's interesting. How often do you see a movie that's set in like an actual museum, Like they walk by big dinosaur bone stuff.

What if it was called fossils. Boy, they walk by like big fossils and shit that are like actually in that museum. It's really cool. Well, I mean, I don't, so I want to tell you about a movie set in the museum that's also a genre movie came out in the year two thousand, was a bit censored because of the Columbine stuff, okay, but it was set in a so it was filmed in Long Island. But it was set in a museum in Alaska where a bunch of teenagers go to this museum and they all end up like they break into the museum after hours to have fun, and they end up all like playing with and desecrating different artifacts of American history, which summons the spirits of American historical figures, but in zombie form, okay, And it did not get a wide release unless you count the other a history classes in Patrick Medford High School in the year two thousand and Long Island.

This was obviously the underground title Zombies Ate My Classmates, which was written and produced and directed by myself and a couple of my friends in high school for ap American history project. So do you still have it? Yes? I do. Why don't you let me see it?

I really should have Brandon make it accessible that way. YEA. Honestly, I know that we're not one of those types of shows, but if we had like a Patreon or something like, that's the type of thing that you need to like paywall. Yeah, I mean it was to me. So I was very proud of the concept because the concept awesome, right, like how we had to make and it was like our final project was like I don't want to make a movie that has something American history, so okay, here's a way where we can combine all these American historical figures.

And the reason I said it in Alaska was because I knew we could not film at night, so we had a running every couple of mens a character would say, the lights are always on in Alaska. Oh my god, you've always been you I have, yes, Yes, I love it. It's so funny. I have a small role in the film. I'm one of the first to die.

I played a character who was obsessed with physics and Albert Einstein, and I piss off the ghost of Albert Einstein who comes and beats me over the face with a science book. And this is after I sing the hit single of that year. Albert Einstein is the sex machine. So yeah, it's probably not as good as the Lamp or the outing or the lamp from twenty eleven. But I just wanted to say, I guess maybe I sold the concept from that movie without.

Knowing, Well it minds think of life. Really yep, definitely, let's see. Oh I have one that you recommended, And we finally got around to watching, Oh shit, because it showed up on TCM and I'm like, heavy know this title. Christine said I should watch this title, and so I'm gonna record it, and I sat down with my husband and we watched the last of Sheila. Oh what did you think?

Oh? Really fun? Yeah, it's good, right, I have that on my list to rewatch after all the spooky stuff. But it's it's like if memory serves, it's formulaic, but also like manages to do some interesting different stuff. Oh yeah, I mean it's an amazing cast.

Diane Channon, for me, was a standing I wanted in an entire movie of her. I thought James Cobert, God, he could play a good asshole. Ridiculous what I found. And also like, like every I not to be like very what's the word I'm looking for? Very?

Like surfacey? But I this when I watched like Children of the corn five, and I'm like, my god, like Ava Mendez in this movie isn't doing anything special. She's young, but like, geez, anybody watching this would say I want her in more movies because like her face is so gorgeous on camera, and watching the Last of Sheila, I'm like, my god, Riquel Welch like just shohn like every time she moves her face, I'm just like, god, like I'm the same species as this woman. How is that possible? I like this a lot.

I thought the ending went on a little long. I think, yeah, I could probably agree with that. And I thought that the there was an element in this movie that I thought was really interesting because I don't know how much of it is if you're approaching it as like I'm a mystery person, so I'm like looking at all the clues here. But there's like a reveal early on that I was trying to I'm like, should I have seen that? Because I kept thinking about it, and it comes into play later on in the movie, and it's just such an interesting like thing to drop in the movie for if you pay attention, you see this.

So therefore you know not to trust somebody the entire time. So it's not that like, oh I figured it out, but like I kind of knew, well, this can't be right because I've seen this thing. Mm hmm. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I don't, because I don't want to say it for anybody else that's gonna see it and give anything away.

Well, this is why I really want to rewatch it. Yeah, because like I've gotten to the point where I sing its phrases so much, but like I don't remember certain parts of it, so I really need to look back at it. But it it. It's I remember thinking like, wow, this is exactly like formulaic but also is kind of subversive, and I wonder what made me think that? Maybe it's the thing you're saying.

Mmm, not necessarily that, although maybe that ties into a character so maybe interesting. Okay, Yeah, I'm definitely gonna rewatch it, but like, I don't know, man, that's like such a classic setup too, and I think they do such cool stuff with it. Yep, agreed, agreed, all right. How much more do we got? What do you say?

I have got? I got one more that I definitely want to go over. I have two more that I could talk about, but what more do you have, because I'll keep you eving. The last one that I really want to talk about is in a movie that I think has been bouncing around for a while but I never really took seriously. It's two thousand and five's I guess Tamara or Tamara, I don't know.

I don't remember how they say her name in the movie Tamara, I guess it's so it's the woman from Step Up, the first Step Up movie. So I guess Channing Tatum's uh. For a while, okay? Written by Jeffrey Reddick, who is the final the first final Destination guy. I believe, yes, yes, yes, Uh, Jeremy, I don't know the director?

Oh his Uh, the director is Jeremy half who I don't know. But when you click on his profile and IMDb, I guess just Dance Kids twenty fourteen was his most known for because there's a video that I really will watch after this is over. Oh that's funny on a letterbox. When you click into him, he doesn't really have anything, which is a shame because he wrote and directed Grizzly Mountain. Do I know?

Wait? And Christney Mountains sounds familiar. I don't know. It's a the cover looks familiar. I feel like it was like a Disney style kind of.

I feel like I have seen skills from this movie used in like memes. I think maybe, yeah, yeah, very possibly. But this movie is a movie that like it's got big nineties energy, like really big late nineties energy, but it's two thousand and five, and there's something about it that always struck me as like I'm not gonna like this, but I know enough people that really wrap it and like push it that I thought it would be interesting to look at. I do think it's worth watching. It's very much that like, isn't this girl so ugly?

Isn't this weird girl so ugly? I'm like, no, no, brother, I have eyes. This is the girl from. The first movie. Yeah, like I know who this is, but like her classmates are all like super mean to her just because she's like super ugly.

You know that style of story. Oh yes, yes, I've been there, yes, and then and then. She gets like revenge on them. So it very much feels like of this that ilk, that green ilk. But like, I don't know, it's weird and interesting and this this woman is compelling to watch.

I would say, yes, So I'm glad I watched it. I think that one was like a like A to B style. Maybe not, maybe I had to. It looks like it's on to be. I can't tell if it's leaving to Be in ten days or leaving Fandango and ten days Okay.

Well it's it was. It was bouncing around, so I decided to finally watch it. I think it's worth it, especially if it's something that's been on your radar, or you do feel like you're that kind of high school like nineties era, like disturbing behavior movie complete East that I'd say, go for it. Yeah, I get to those moods. Yeah.

Female Killers also like super valid subgenre. Always always all right. The last thing I'll talk about is I don't know if it's a recommend but I feel like I need to mention it, and I have. I've kind of gone through journeys with it. I think ultimately I respect what it's doing and I think aspects of it are very strong.

But it's a hard movie to broadly recommend. Uh. This is one that I saw at Jacob Burns and there was a director Q and a after, which was very exciting to see because this is a director who I have followed pretty closely. I have seen this is now three of his four films. I missed the third one, but it is our astros Eddington.

Okay, So I stopped paying attention to this person's movies a while ago. This came out and I was shocked. I was like, what is this movie? Who tell me about your feeling here? Okay?

So I this is a movie that in a lot of ways benefited from me going to a crowded theater to see it, because it's the the energy of a crowd. On one hand, was it was after a while, it just became really interesting to understand what people were like gasping at and laughing at and so on. And also because this is a movie that I think I may not have stayed with knowing it was fairly long, and the first like ten minutes of this movie, I was like, oh God, I'm here for a while, and I don't know that I want to be so because I but I think it turns a corner and ultimately is more interesting than maybe I initially thought it was. So. Eddington is set in twenty twenty one in a New Mexico town.

Joaquin Phoenix plays the show, and now I am not I kind of hate him as a person, but I will rarely dine. I think he's a very good actor, and I think he's very good in this He is to me, it was very clear from the beginning that he is a pathetic man. What was fascinating and watching this movie was kind of feeling the audience, much of the audience feel for him, and to me, I never did. I was like, oh, no, this this guy is. This guy's awful, Like you feel a little bad for him beause hes kind of pathetic, but like, no, he's pathetic and should be pathetic.

But you could hear like the audience go like oh at times when he was like sad, and it was very weird for me, like am I getting the same thing as these other people around me? I don't think everybody felt that way, but it's that's the thing about a theater is that you hear reactions in a certain way, and it early on in the movie it feels like it is a very both sides SI type movie, kind of like a little south Park style. It actually feels very south Park in a lot of ways. Just also the fact that it said in a you know, a town in the middle of America and this kind of climate and it it's what. So by the time the movie keeps going and I kind of turn a corner on it, I'm like, okay, like I see where it's going, I see what it's doing.

It's like clearly like watching this movie. By a certain point, I'm like, okay, no, our aster is is a liberal like and it's not clear at first what side I think the movie is on, because the movie is very much saying both sides are screaming and they're both right and wrong and so on. And then I think it's a point where it's like, no, I think this is very clear what it's saying. And so then the the movie hits kind of a climax which Jimmy just goes on forever. But then it kind of comes back.

And I thought the ending, like the final ending of this movie, and the code of this movie I thought was brilliant. And so then Ari Asker comes there for the Q and A, and it was very I don't know, like he was not what I expected at all in person. He is is I don't know. I was thinking of him as like, oh, I bet he's gonna be like very kind of like kind of like a Joaquin Phoenix type on stage, and he's not at all like he's this like little nerdy guy. He was clearly like he's clearly kind of anxious, I think, but was also like really seemed like a really like nice person in the Q and A Like there were a lot of like college and high school kids in the audience that would ask questions and he was like you could tell he was very like kind to them about like that's a wonderful question.

I used to think I used to wonder that myself. Like, so it was like very I was like, oh, he's like a very endearing person and everything. And as he was talking, I think it was clear to me that like his heart was in the right place with this movie. I think he wanted to approach material in He's from New Mexico, and I think he was there in part during the pandemic, and so I think he did come at this with a I know these people, I know like both sides of these people, and I want to be able to like put everything out there and put like, you know, the guy that was didn't want to wear a mask and why he thought his freedoms were being violated and all that. So I did like within like and I think I kind of by the end of the movie felt this, but also the Q and a kind of like clinched it for me.

Of like, no, he is definitely like he saw things and he put them out there, but there is definitely a storytelling that is driving a certain direction. At least to me, That's what I got, But I also could have been watching it in my own vacuum. The what he also said at the end of the movie, where there were two things that I thought, like really were very that I think clear up the movie and make you if you watch it again, and from this point of view, it makes perfect sense. One thing he said was he wanted to make a movie that felt like the Internet, which it does, like it does feel like you were on in a way you saw hashtag horror, right, yeah, yeah, Like, and that's a similar movie where it's very annoying as a movie, like it's not fun to watch, but I get what the director's doing and I think it's really genius for what she's going for, and like in that way, I'm like, no, this fits that, Like it does feel like what he's trying to do.

And then the other thing he said, he's like, when people ask me what my movie's about, I just say it's about a small town. It's about building a data center in a small town. And that also makes perfect sense, and it's something that is there in the entire movie. At the very end of the movie, it comes back and again it kind of reframes everything in a very clear way to me of like, right, all of this, like all of our kind of back and forth and our individual like you know, we think performing our own opinions, but everything is kind of guided by this and then it's collected and this like it's it's a very like pessimistic look at things, but it's also kind of brilliant in that way. So I don't know, it's it's a it's one that I think, is I kind of respect more than I enjoyed.

That's interesting. Yeah, I get that. It's really there's a million things you said that made my teeth clunch, So I think, yeah, I think that's gonna be a no for me yet for now at least, But like I totally get what you're saying, and it sounds like it was at least a worthwhile experience. Oh, definitely. No.

Yeah, Honestly, sometimes with a like great if a director can deliver some kind of experience or some kind of thought experiment, that's like best case scenario. Yeah, And I mean it's a swing. And I respect a lot that he made this movie. I think he certainly could have gone in a like and he's had an interesting career where it basically he had two huge hits that were tiny horror movies and then he went in a very different direction. I did both as Afraid is the one I haven't seen, and like this this, like this movie is designed to be polarizing and it's designed to not you know, this isn't an Awards movie, and I respect that about him.

I think, on one hand, like it feels too soon to make this movie, but also it makes sense that you would make it when it's still like fresh enough in a lot of performers' minds to do it. But I wonder this is one that I think will will really be interesting to revisit in like ten years, fifteen years. I think it's gonna be a very odd time capsule that is, like I don't know, it's one that's gonna say a lot of things differently. In a while, so I'm glad and it's again this is one of those cases where, like, had I watch this at home, I think I would have had a very I just think I would have hated it. Seeing in a theater where I was kind of forced to engage with it in a different way, it was a much like more fulfilling experience, even if ultimately I don't know that I actually like would recommend the movie not loosely, and there are people that like, you know, if you're gonna not like not be able to tolerate this movie, and if you are open to it, I think there's a lot there that like, if nothing else, it's you know it, it wants to challenge and it doesn't always work, but it's it's trying something.

Yeah that's cool. I mean at least at least he's doing stuff. I'd rather that than someone just like churning out the same thing that that they got popular down. I mean, that's that to me, is a real artist, to real someone who's really interesting and interested in exploring stuff. And that's exciting.

Yeah, I think in many ways, and I wonder at what point this will change. It is so easy to put him and oh, God, what's his name? The Witch, the Vivich guy. Yeah, like to put Robert Eggers in our aster. Like their paths so far have been so parallel, where like two genre movies, then a sort of experimental movie, then the next one like was where they've sorted to diverge a bit and I can't remember we talked about No Staratu.

I watched it and felt and they kept long asleep. I found it very boring. But it's just an interesting way of like seeing like two artists who I think in many ways like have a lot of like similar DNA and are equally I think, very talented in different ways, like to see like they're gonna be very interesting mirrors for the next like thirty years of filmmaking. Yeah, that is interesting. Someday I look forward to watching any of the movies that they've made.

I don't watch those movies. I can't quantify to you why it's not really conscious. I'm just not interested. You really haven't seen The Lighthouse Er of the Thevich. I saw The Witch, and that's it.

Ah. I plan on watching The Witch again because I remember enjoying it. It would be a good October movie. Yeah, it's definitely on the I'm saving a lot of special stuff for the month itself. But and Ari is Hereditary in midsummer Yep.

Yeah, I've also obviously seen those quite a few times. But yeah, I haven't seen anything other than that and then The Witch from Eggers. And it's not like I'm not making like a moral stance or anything. It's just and I could be wrong because I haven't seen them, so what do I know. But they seem like very masculine movies.

And I just mean that in the opposite of feminine. I don't mean that as like a reflection of like strength or power. They just seem like they have a very masculine point of view. And I don't really feel like that's where I want to put a lot of my energy. Yeah, I mean the Lighthouse is like, by definition, it's two men in a lighthouse.

Yeah, but I I recommend it. I think I think it is weird and funny and bizarre and unlike anything. And I had had a blast with it. And if both of these filmmakers I have not yet seen. Their third film was Afraid of the northmand which is also their longest one.

O. Well, I saw way way I saw the norn. I lied, I saw that Northman, did you like it? I haven't seen it yet. It was fine, Okay, it just seems very long.

It is long. I think I was a little bit more patient with it than Zach was. He ended up getting like like really born. Yeah, and like I he'll reference it like, not in like a disparaging way, but just as like an example of a time where he wasn't enjoying something or something didn't work. So it definitely didn't necessarily hit I think it's it's undeniable though, because if you look at the cast, like me of all people, is not going to say a single negative word about that cast, right.

About having Nicole Kidman and Dafoe on screen, Come. On, come on, so like in that in that regard obviously, like there's a lot of stuff there. But maybe that's when I decided I wasn't really interested too, like like and it's fine and to your to your larger point, which I think is really astute, like these are gonna be reflective like little time capsules of this time we're living in and and maybe at some point that's when I'll feel like I'm more interested in checking them out when they have more of a reflective quality than like a current quality. I mean, it took me forty something years to see Yental in Nashville. So there, movies are forever and that's the great thing about them.

That's right. Nobody's coming to take my Children of the Core in Part five Fields of Terror DVD away from me. It's true hashtag physical media. Everyone else, isn't it so exciting? It's coming back?

I love it. Yeah. Everybody's like, wait a second, I should own this, and I'm like, yeah, you should. Like I don't want to say this too loud because I don't really want enough people to do it to where like producing companies understand it. But do you realize how affordable seasons of complete series TV DVDs are right now?

Yeah? You can, especially if you're gonna go secondhand. I see the complete collections of every show constantly in every second hand store I go to. We've just been doing it because like Brannon is a completist. So he looked at my shelf and got mad that I only had, like, I don't know, three seasons of the Office on DVD.

I'm like, well, I don't really, it's always on TV, and so it's like no, no, no, I was just gonna get the series. It was only like thirty bucks somewhere, and it's like, that's like over one hundred hours of content that I now have, and it's it's yeah, it's so cheap, and you could have it forever. And when they yank it offline or when they start editing it to fit into time slots, you have to deal with that. Yep. Remember when seasons of TV, especially like like TV was like sixty dollars for a new season, Like when the new season of True Blood came out, it was like sixty dollars on DVD, not Blu Ray, not anything fancy.

They said, oh, it's sixty dollars to just watch the show. Yeah, And now you can just walk into pretty much any Goodwill and there's a thousand copies of every season of True. One that's it was sixteen hundred was the one where I think I had seasons like one, two, and three, and it was just simply because like well because those were what were on sale at Sam's Club, and the other two hadn't come out yet, so I never got around to buying them. So yeah, yep, yep, now I have an oz I love it. Yeah, and I can at any given point in time in the bond.

It's of the Brady Bunch. I tell you how he like. This is how much I love my husband. I came home and I had he had gotten just like giant thing. It's all the Brady Bunch episodes, plus the made for TV movies, plus the the theatrical movies in the nineties.

The only thing missing was it did not have the Variety Hour, which he then found also on eBay. So now I have the Variety Hours. Well, yeah, that's pretty impressive. My my media hoarding husband would enjoy that quite a bit as well. Yeah.

It's thrilling to like get that stuff. Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah, I'm glad people are getting it again. I do understand like that original like thrill of free of like you mean, I can have everything and I don't have to carry all this stuff around, right, But it was never with that with no strings attached, because I remember the last time I visited you in New York, which was over a decade ago, us talking about them just taking stuff off your kindle. Yep, and it can do that, and it's.

Like, uh, that was that then, Like we and it's only gotten like, yeah, yeah, so I ditched all. I ditched not all, but a lot of my CDs. I purged things out of my DVD collection that I kind of in hindsight, which I hadn't but I never got rid of it completely. I'm glad I didn't, because at least I have a base to start like collecting the things I care about. Again, Yeah, and I get space is an issue for a lot of people, for sure, But I mean, like and DVD's like they take up room, but they don't take them that much room.

And for us, like it's you know, our entire living room is shelves of DVDs and Blu rays and that's to me, like that's decorating. Like we could put art there, or I could put you know, every Nightmare in Elm Street and Children in the Corn that I'll eventually watch. Well, that's a good point, because the space is an issue. But like, and then this is no shade. People have no problem collecting like Funko pops and like or like even like let's say precious figures.

Yeah, like whatever, but like to me, you're right, to me, this is like something I want to look at and enjoy. It, and actually use. Yeah, it's like most things, it's a decoration. Like I am proud. I forget what the run was, but I have this like one run of DVD's where it's like the Muppets Tea in which Texas chains of Massacre tiptoes like we're alphabetically it just ends up being the most random assortment of movies.

Yeah, and like that's art. And also it means at any given point in life, I can watch Tiptoes. It's a gif having like how you look at the library and you're like, the library is a gift. You can have your own library, and that too can be a gift. My art isn't as glorious as yours.

But I have like a string of like five Cusack movies all in a row, and I look over there and I go, nobody can take that from me. I have two copies of The Raven Blu ray and DVD. Nice, I can always watch The Raven. Yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful.

World we live in, people, beautful truly. All Right, Well, I don't know what we're gonna cover next. We'll talk off Mike and see what we're gonna do. But in the meantime, you have stuff like you started a newsletter and things. I did start a newsletter.

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