Amazon Women on the Moon

We're in waiting m welcome alone. It's uh, it's me and you, just the two of us. We're here at the end of the month. And what a month it's been. I think me personally this may have been in terms of the quality of the movie.

He's more or less consistent across the board in terms of quality, even the things that we weren't the biggest fans. We were still talking about it on every one of the episodes, So it must not have been that bad. Yeah, I don't think. I wouldn't. I wouldn't not recommend any of these movies.

I would recommend all of these movies ILOs recommending in the chronological order that we watched them. Just to see this progression. I think putting them into chronological orders key. If you don't have any basis in these films or their histories. If you watch Groove to Kentucky Fried movie, the next one, Mister Mike's Mondo video, and then finally this, I think you can actually see the evolution of the filmed sketch comedy.

Michael o'donna he was rolling over his grave because you forgot his name and his thing. Yeah, that he's like, He's like I feel what they would forget me. He's loading a napalm canisters, but he's doing he's loading a nuke because that's what you do when you're him, you go full nuclear at every opportunity. Yes, on this episode of the Culture Cast, I'm still your host Chris Dashy, much to the chagrin of many, and I'm joined by the man himself, Father Malone, all the way from the weirding Way Media Network, host of such shows as Noise, Junkies Night, Mister Walters, and my personal favorite Dark Destinations. Oh, thank you very much.

And let me just say ooh, Lamas man, there's one of my favorite movies is After Hours, and boy there's a lot of the After Hours After Hours players here in this movie. Because yes, ladies and gentlemen, if you've been following us on this sketch comedy journey this month through you've never seen September, you know that we are talking about anyway, you clicked on it, so you know what this is like, this is some sort of mystery. You know that we're going to be talking about nineteen eighty seven sketch comedy film, though Wikipedia doesn't refer to it as such, which I find to be a little strange, but I maybe understand I kind of understand why as a framing device thing, but like I think it might be a tenuous tenuous hair's flitting it best.

We're gonna be talking about nineteen eighty seven's Amazon Women on the Moon. Universal, the studio that brought you such classic motion pictures as All Quiet on the Western Front, Et the Extraterrestrial and Out of Africa, is proud to present Amazon Women on the Moon, featuring Steve Gutenberg, Rosanna Arquet, Blue Jacobe, Pretty, Scary, huff In Bigley, Junior, BB King. Did you know that every seven minutes a black person is born in this country without soul? Tiger Yallow, Ribbon, Round Old Tree, Russ Meyer, Ralph Bellamy, Monique Gabrielle, I better, I know what you want, Griffin Dunn, Steve Forrest, Sybil Danning, Oh, Steven Save Yourself, Henry Silva, Steve valland Kelly Preston, Carrie Fisher and Arsenio Hall.

Amazon Women on the Moon. I've seen enough, doctor, I know you have, But have you? Amazon Women Hold The new film from directors Joe Dante, Carl Gottlieb, Peter Horton, John Landis, and Robert Weiss. So the film is directed by not one, not two, not three, not four, but five separate people because it is a sketch comedy film made up of disparate parts put together. And those directors are Joe Dante, Carl Gottlieb, Peter Horton, John Landis, and Robert kay Weiss.

And yes, the movie Amazon Women on the Moon is present in the film, but however, it is once again a sketch comedy film that goes in some interesting directions. It's like flipping through a TV like all the other things we've been watching this month have attempted to do with varying degrees of success. So I don't not going to name how many actors are in this movie. This movie stars a lot of actors, as the film likes to remind us in the opening. So, Father Malone, I'm going to kick it to you first and lastly for this month.

Why are we watching Amazon Women on the Moon? And did you see this film in theaters? We're watching this because it is the natural end to the sketch comedy film cycle. There have been several since they've all been garbage. I think these four are pretty much the best they're going to get of the bunch, and this one in particular, I adore probably have seen more than the other three combined.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I saw this in theaters. I saw this at the Cineplex Odeon in downtown Boston at Copley I think, and made my mother take me to see it because I saw the poster and read the director's list, which included both Joe Dante and John Landis. So my fourteen year old heart was all a flutter. Yeah, So that's where that's where I first saw, and that's why we're watching. So tell me what you thought rewatching it for this episode of the Culture Cast, though I know this is not the first time you've rewatched it, maybe not even the first time this year.

No, I've seen it when when we decided that we were going to do we decided this, I think, you know, six nine months ago. It was a it was a it was a year ago. Yeah, it was a year ago. So it was when we finished last day. So as soon as I decided that we're going to do sketch comedy this year, I immediately watched it.

And then and then you know, I don't know, maybe a couple of months ago. I just put it on just to put it on. And now I've watched it two more times to talk about it here tonight. Yeah, I've seen it a lot and I still like it. I still like it a lot.

I think here it's the sheer quantity overrides any of the clunkers, and the ones that made me laugh when I was a kid are still making me laugh to this day. There are there are some great gems in here. All of Joe Dante's stuff is actually really hilarious. I wish he had done more of the segments on honestly, but overall, I like it a lot. Uh, we need to we need to talk about And you've never you had never seen the film before?

Correct? Hey? Yeah, sure, but no I had not ever seen. Okay, I believe we watched the same copy. We sure did, my furry little friend.

Oh yes, And let's just say that that was a uh fan edit of Amazon Women on the Moon. It took all of the deleted segments and put them back, Yet in what order, I'm not sure. I don't think that was the order that the filmmakers originally intended. In fact, I think right up until the film got released, they were they were jiggering around the order of the segments. In fact, one of the one of Joe Dante segments, they couldn't figure out a place to put it because everything else after it seemed less funny once they had seen it, So they ended up putting it sort of a mid credit sequence so that nothing could have come before, nothing could come after it.

Let me talk about oh that that that fan that it's got. Not only does it put bank in deleted scenes, but it puts in truncated scenes like bits from like the Amazon Women on the Moon is perfect example that it starts with a with a narrator like turning to the cameras, the head of the Science Agency not in the theatrical cut. And there's lots of little bits in Amazon Women on the Moon that Arsol also weren't in the in the atric credit. So I will say that your first experience was a little long in the tooth for what actually has been seen for the past thirty years. So I will say I realized that obviously, but I wanted to watch the version made by the people who love this movie, because in my opinion, that's you know, director's intent is one thing, but also this is a completionist thing, and this is a completionist version of the movie everything that I mean.

Even again, like they mentioned the alternate versions on Wikipedia, you can do any amount of research to see what those alternate scenes are. So yeah, it may have seemed a little long in the tooth, I didn't mind the length of the movie. I actually appreciated being able to see everything as it were, because I think it helps it round it out. And I also think it helps round out the comedy inside of this because there's a lot of different points of comedy and where they're going. This is the most diverse comedically of the things we've seen this month in terms of the direction things go.

And so I actually didn't mind how long it was. It felt like it was really like a comprehensive idea made full, including having outtakes at the end. And I will tell you the Unknown Soldier segment maybe my favorite because it is a beyond fucked up joke and it and they go all the way to the end with it, and god speed, I'm glad they did. Wow. See now, I liked that one in theory, and I love all of the actors on screen, including Wally Langham there from Chocolate War.

Yeah, boy, he's there, isn't he sure is? He's great actually in its Yeah he is. Yeah. All the performances are fantastic. It's just it's paced so weirdly, like it's that this is a segment that goes on too long, like that's a blackout sketch for you.

We talk about blackout sketches a lot over on our Ninth Gallery podcast, and that that one felt like it was this and just you got the joke as soon as they said we don't we need an unknown soldier, like, oh they picked this kid, how fucked up? And then it just kind of keeps going with the kid not really getting it, like, I guess that's the joke. Well, I like that he doesn't get it. And then I'm also a huge fan of playing it's straight. It's played completely straight, like and I'm not saying there aren't things played completely straight in the movie.

There are, but this being played straight was essential to selling as an idea, and I understand why it wouldn't have worked, And I agree with you it is a little and I also agree with you it is a blackout sketch kind of made flesh. But I actually think again, for me, like that level of humor is like Scott Free. It's like you're really poking fun at a lot of open wounds at once and really making I would I mean, like, I know why it's not in the movie because it does bring everything down, but I kind of like that it brings everything down like it And yes, if it were in the original cut of the movie, it would really feel like a tonal shift. But I'm okay, I'm okay with it now, all of that aside, I think this is the best thing we've watched all month in terms of like beat to beat to beat to beat to beat, And I actually hate the fact that we watch this because this is like in a very weird spot.

For me, is like something I really enjoyed the first time and second time and third time I watched it, And now it's like I can't stop thinking about how many of the jokes worked, how much of it made me laugh, how much of it is so ahead of time, like the Rosanna Arquet Steve Gutenberg thing feels weirdly pressant and like and the like I don't know, we're obviously going to talk about all of it, but needless to say, this movie has Archie fucking Han in it. It has Henny young Men in it, So you're checking boxes that I didn't even know we're able to be checked by a sketch comedy film in eighty seven. And you know what, I enjoyed it immensely and frankly as much as I did, like if we just qualify something like The Unknown Soldier sketch because it's not part of the original movie.

The best thing about this, because I just want to talk about this first up at the front, I was Henry Silva never actually the host of one of these shows, because I would I would have watched that show. Yeah that even even then, it is a very clear the show is called Bullshit or Not and it is a like paranormal, strange phenomenon investigative show Allah in Search of with Leonard Nimoy. It is almost a like even the opening credits are almost exactly the original In Search of Things and this one, of course, it's you know, a mashup of what if Jack the Ripper was the Lockness Monster, which is oh, it just like the greatest what if question that I didn't know needed to be asked, and it only gets better because they have a reenactment with a gigantic lockness monster with a top ad entails like proposition a prostitute.

I don't know, it still makes me laugh. Oh my god, Joe Dante, there you go. Yeah, to answer your question. I don't know how they didn't chap Henry Silver for that. Maybe they try and he was just wasn't ends to it or something, because you know, the joke is at one point, did I take this job for a quick book?

We may never know the answers to these questions well, and that is the thing Like for me, I think this movie is made with a level of tongue in cheekness that everything else wasn't interested in having. And this feels I mean, look, the level of people in this are different than the other things. Like the other thing had Chevy Chase in it for a second. The other thing had Bill Murray and Dan Acrid in it for a second. This is like, the level of people in this is pretty high too, like compared like I'm saying those people are, but like the involvement here is a lot for some of these people, and I mean, I don't weigh that against the movie.

But I will say, like, in terms of like what this movie's successes are, I think this movie succeeds across the board more consistently than anything else has this month, except for maybe Kentucky Fried movie. But uh, John Landis so yeah, like I don't know, like the highs and this feel so high. It's it's the slickest movie of all of them. I mean, it's the most professional. This is the most movie movie.

Yeah, with actual actors and professionals behind the camera. You know, Daniel Pearl who shot this movie. You know what, his first movie was The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I mean, great family flick. Yeah, But like to go from that almost documentarian thing to this, which is is adopting every stuff that and what we what we liked about Kentucky Fried movie is that Landis was able to transform his directorial style in each segment to cater to that segment.

Here we've got four to five directors. Peter Harton directed one segment because his girlfriend agreed to be in the movie so he could do that. The other directors, let's say, you know, doing good work. I will say, Daniel Pearl, I do love the fact that it came back to work on the second Texas Chain saw the reboot, which I am a huge fan of and I have no problem admitting which I know is kind of an unpopular opinion. But today leg see the duet.

Well, what you're gonna do? I know, right, like people are gonna come. I think, excuse me. In terms of a unified vision, I think this movie gets away with that thing of not having to have it be because of the framing device working rather well. Yeah, here the other movies are just sketched sketch comedy with no real framing device, but no forward momentum at all.

The idea that we were watching TV with Groove two, we get the idea that we were watching TV on Kentucky Fried movie, but here is definitely there is someone change in the channel, right, Which makes sense why Daniel Pearl is a cinematographer, because if you're a documentarian, like you're trying to this always feels like it's there's a there's a magic trick going on here with like found footage and like these kinds of movies, because it's a sketch comedy movie, but at the same time it's also a kind of like a not found footage, but I don't know how to explain, Like you're they're trying to replicate a certain experience that has had by doing a certain thing, which is sitting and watching television.

So what do you call that kind of movie that's attempting? Like WNUF Halloween Special is technically considered a found footage movie, but it's doing something else, very specifically, I don't know, stylistic, and this is doing that exact same thing. And like you said, Groove two and Kentucky Fried movie go there, but this goes there that one step further, that five to ten percent more, and it's I think it. I think it allows me to feel like, okay, yeah, Like when you're watching TV, some things do and don't work completely, and so that works here in the grand narrative of what they're doing, and I can kind of give them. I don't know why I would give it more of a pass, but I don't know.

It doesn't this unlike Groove Too, this doesn't linger on its failures this long either. It doesn't linger at all. Really. The longest segment here is the Amazon Women on the Moon parody, but that wisely is broken up into segments which you know, come to think of it, if they had done that in Kentucky Fried movie with the Bruce Lee parody, I think I think they would have alleviated some of the problems that it had. Yeah, it's you know, if you're going for a late night viewing experience, you don't just stay and watch the entire movie.

You flip around and there are commercials and you know, No, it's just a little more rounded out here in this film. As far as the s well, it feels like you're coming into things like the Michelle Peiffer and Peter Horton's sketch. That doesn't feel like a sketch as much as I'm coming into another show and then I'm changing the channel on the show and going to something else, And that is such a weird thing to emulate that it again, it's not it's a sketch comedy, but the constraints are super weird. Like the unknown soldier thing is they definitely started with wouldn't it be weird if they had to find an unknown soldier? And that's the nugget has to be the close kernel of the idea.

But where they go with it is setting it in a World War two TV show or World War I guess would be World War one TV show. I'm assuming that's supposed to be World War One, given that they're in a trench, but who the fuck knows, set in a war TV show, and they emulate the style of the war TV show as well as answering that sketch comedy question. But that's that's two or three things you're doing. It's not just like with Groove To a sketch comedy thing and we're paroding the walking the Yellow Pages. They're like, okay, but like you're doing that thing, there aren't the references and parodies aren't as specific here.

I mean they are in some cases, but they're so funny. And that was the problem we had with Groove Tube. It's like, if you're going to make a joke specifically aimed at something in pop culture at that time, and the joke is that they recognize it, then that joke no longer works five years later, Whereas here it's not as political the film and it is made by professionals, and it was This one was written by two writers, Michael Barry and Jim Mulholland, who, unlike every sketch comedy show, we've a movie we've seen this year other than Michael O'Donohue, But I do not count his experiences in television as actual television writing, because he was just doing his own thing and somebody was covering him.

Jim mulholland Michael Berry were the lead lead writers on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show from nineteen eighty two to like eighty nine or eighty seven or something, and then they were on David Letterman for a decade, and they also wrote like every Academy Awards. It's like, these are television people writing a pty of late night television, so that in a way elevates it as well, and I think it helps sell what they're going for that they have such a distinct wrangle on these ideas and as such a distinct understanding of how to sell these things in a way that not only again you're selling the idea, but you're also selling the comedy behind it, because a lot of these things are played straight, completely straight.

Understand what the joke was in the opening segment that was just a bad day. We all have a bad day. That one made me laughable, the kid, because it's all it's all just silent film kind of Okay, that's that's what I thought it was supposed to be. Like I was just like, it's just a Buster Keaton thing. It's just I guess for me as someone now in twenty twenty three, my wrangle on Arsineo Hall is a little it's you know what I mean, Like Arsenio Hall is not someone who's popularity and necessarily went outside of the late eighties early nineties like Arsin.

I mean, I don't know what he's up to right now, but nor do I. And this was the first time I had ever seen Arseneo Hall. If you're looking the credits, he's just Arseneo right, Well, that's what I mean. Like he was a personality like yeah, and well he was in very very funny I think was I think was coming to America before or after this movie. This was before coming to America's eighty eighth.

Okay, so there you go, which John land Is directed, so Arseneo Hall and Eddie Murphy. There you go. You know, Arsenio's fame doesn't really didn't doesn't factor into that sketch, like it almost works against it now because we only know him as the talk show host who hoots a lot, and you know, well, that's what that's that's what I mean. It's just like I didn't and I've never seen Coming to America. Oh okay, well yeah you should.

You should see Coming to America. He's really good in that. He's really good. In Harlem Nights, Eddie Murphy's directorial debut, Arsenio Hall has one scene in it, and he's fucking hilarious. So yeah, that if that segment accomplished anything for me back in the day, it made in our Cineo Hall fans.

So I was I was well on board for the oar Cineo ascent to fame and then just as willing to you know, no longer engage in our cineo. Wouldn't It just kind of came to the same thing, right, Like I appreciate the influences of Chaplain and Keaton and like I appreciate all of that obviously, but to me, yeah, like again, it just seemed like, oh, look, it's our Cineo Hall, like you know what I mean, Like I like a stunt cast thing. But really it was just supposed to be anonymous guy, right, That's what I'm that It does seem a little stunt casting is what I was getting at. So, but what about Monique Gabrielle. Would you consider that stunt casting?

I think that's one of the funnier segments I did. It's it says, it's it's so, it's so passive, aggressive in a lot of parts about LA and New York, and I just I love it well out in LA. I could never walk around like this in New York City. Art is my Life. Yeah, the pet House video parody, you know, with the just the Day in the Life of a pet House pet where she's just wandering everywhere naked.

Great segment. Yeah, very uncomfortable watching for the first time when I was fourteen sitting next to my mother in a movie theater. A couple of segments, Uh, you know what's weird there. So there are a couple of moments in this film with that I assumed John Landis directed this was one of them, and he did not. This is Carl Gottlieb directed this.

But of course, this is the nineteen seventies and up until like nineteen sixty eight nine, you couldn't even show nudity in films, So you know, it was a boundary pusher as far as what you had seen in sort of like sketch comedy, because everyone was familiar with sketch comedy. They else seen Carol Burnett right right right here. But here's some penis. What do you think of that act? Right, big Wiener on screenplays?

How about Lujah Kobe though as one of the great rec the best reoccurring sketch in this entire thing. Absolutely, you can have this character come in and out. It's uh, what's it called? Murray and video Land. So a guy buys a new rogue control first television, sapps himself inside, and now his wife has control of the remote.

She keeps changing the channel, and so he keeps ending up in whatever that at whatever station she turns it too, So he ends up in King Kong. He ends up at a baseball game. Incidentally, the announcer in the baseball game, Phil Hartman, I noticed that I could tell by the voice so good, So nice to hear his voice. Yeah, he's great in that sequence, And what you said is so true. What ends up happening, because we're watching TV for the rest of the movie, is that occasionally Murray will just wander into the frame.

Yeah, help me get me out of here. Selma, Oh, it's it's the harried old man wandering the TV landscape is and you leave the movie with it, at least in the fan at it. It's kind of it. It takes you out of the movie until the bloopers. So yeah, no, and that's how the movie went.

Anyway. I will say Michelle Phifer luminous, Michelle Pfeiffer maybe didn't need to be She did because she needed to get her husband Peter Harton a directing gig in this movie, right right brick with John Landis On into the Night. But you know what I mean in terms of like doesn't need to be here now, Yeah, she it's it's unfortunate because like it's, oh look it's Michelle Pfeiffer, and like that's that's kind of as far as that goes with that, Like it's two straight men. She and Peter Harton are both playing straight men to Griffin Dunn. Who is there anyone else actually in the scene.

That's my point. Oh my god. He just walks in and it's like, hey, everybody, you're just gonna pay attention to me now, and we do, and he's and he's I mean, it's a little bit of mugging. It's a lot a bit of mugging, but I kind of don't care because it is so quick. It's it's mugging correctly, It's like correct, tell you we've lost your child.

It should be this guy, right, Oh that's that's mister potato head. What No, it's not in their heads are point to you. I promise it'll be fixed in a week. Wow. They looks like you can see why I made the mistake, right, it's and that, you know, I think for me.

Look, I mean I kind of mentioned already after hours and my love of Griffin Done, but yeah, it almost he's almost too good. Oh he's great. Yeah, he's too good for the scene. Like I'm not saying Michelle five from Peter Horton aren't good, but like they are given so little to do and have to be so straight because he is so whacked out that it should have just been to two random actors. It didn't have to be a Michelle Piffer.

It is kind of distracting that it is Michelle Fifer. Almost. Yeah, I think honestly, this one to me was so funny. Griffin Done is so funny here that the next couple of segments. I can't even like appreciate it all that much.

But what came after this is hair Looming and then the beginning of Amazon Women in the Moon, and the entire time I was still thinking about Griffin Done. In fact, I gotta I gotta say Chris like since nineteen eighty seven that line at the beginning of the ooh, Lamas. All I had to get by was a Harvard medical school. You know you've sat on a sat on a floor breathing for three weeks. Oh, you want to spend some quality week time with your son.

Those lines are in my head and have been in my head forever. If I hear the word lamas, I hear Griffin done, immediately go ooh Lamas. I God fucking Griffin done. Man Like ah, he is, without a doubt one of my favorite actors. Like I don't know like and I haven't seen him in everything that he's been in, but I've seen him in enough things to know that he is a genuinely interesting actor who makes interesting choices in the things that he produces, directs, and stars in.

Because shit, he directed a segment in Movie forty three. Was it a good one? I don't know I've never seen him, but like that to me is interesting that he clearly, I mean, he has an interest in being part of a thing that he was part of in the eighties. And he also directed Practical Magic, which it's pretty good movie. I've seen it a fair amount of times.

It could be, you know, bias, but it's not bad. You're married, of course you've seen it a bunch of times. Oh fuck you. It's not a bad movie. And you know that.

And you can give me a hard time all you like, but in terms of inoffensive halloween ish movies, it's not that bad. Listen, It's well directed, and I love the cast, except for Nicole Kidman. I mean, I feel like I feel like that is always Nicole Kidman. She shouldn't be in anything in Luge, and she should be in to die for the end. She should and and and she reminds me a lot of Oh god, what's the other actress?

It's Nicole Kidman. Oh and Hathaway like like, you shouldn't be allowed to be in anything, Like I just yes, I think it's like, I'm not saying you should have a job, but you're just kind of off putting. It's a weird thing right, it's that, it's it's the opposite of the it factor, right and there and like. And we might sound misogynistic, but I can tell you plenty of male actors I feel the exact same way about or that Sam Worthington, that's a good one. Joel Edgerton.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay, not Joel Edgerton, Sam Worthington. Who was the other one? That Courtney? Yeah? Who is the guy from tron?

Garrett Headland? All right, Headland? I like Garrett Headland actually good in his native language. Did you see uh, The Crossing? No, the Cohen Brothers film, the fucking folk movie, Oh, Buster Scugs.

No, that's a that's a western, The folk folk movie, The Folky with Oliver what's his name? Isaac oh Oh? Inside Llewellen Davis, inside Llewellen Davis. Yes, Garrett Headland is fucking awesome in that movie. Actually, no one here.

I'll throw a name out there. Kevin Costner. Yeah, you know what. No, I run hot and cold on Costner. I run cold on Costner.

Depends on the role, though. Do you see the Untouchables? Still haven't? Baby? Come on?

Man? I know well you know, you know how to get me to watch it? Got him? Look, I will say back to Griffin done and Griffin done. In this movie, he kind of runs away with him for that scene.

Yeah, Like I said, there's an not just for the scene, but like he is such a good he's he is so good. He is a standout of the movie. Right, But then no one was ready for And now see you get a little bit robbed here because you know all of the players, like even the most minor roles in this movie are like known people now. But on no Soul Simmons by David Allan Greer, I, oh my, I lost my ship when I saw it the first time. I still do.

Actually, he's so earnest, He's so fucking funny. He's a recurring character. They keep popping up. In fact, he pops up so much that in the Titan Man Condom sketch at the very end of the movie when they pull up to the pharmacy, don knows those Simmons is on their radio play man I and so what I love a good fucking reoccurring gag done well, yeah, because when it starts out, it's just how sad. Look at this guy.

He has No Soul, and then a little while later we get his greatest hits like like a laden it's so good and fucking BB King man like beebe Hi, I'm BB King. I'd like to tell you about Blacks without Soul, Holy shit, and Boy and Boy the Male Republican is the is just hits a little too close to home, as we like to say in twenty twenty three June and Ward. Yeah you know that good part. I even met David Demon once. Yeah, that's pretty great.

There are a couple of segments here where I would assume John Landis had directed this one. You know for sure John Landis directed this one with with BB King's involvement. Yeah. I was about to say, like the ones, the ones that Landis has directed stand out obviously, right they do? They do.

I do think that the MVP in this movie is Joe Dante And the one segment that I was convinced he had done, turns out he didn't, but apparently was the segment that he wanted but it had already been spoken for, which is the Son of the Invisible Man, which is my favoritement in the movie. Oh is it really? Oh yeah, that that gets me, that that that could have played very well on Night Gallery as as a blackout sketch. Actually this it's an invisible man who thinks he's invisible but he's not, and he's he's insane, and Ed Begley is so fucking funny in that sequence. He's talk about playing it straight.

Everyone is playing it straight, and it's the most ridiculous situation of all time. And it's so detailed, like, uh, just the just the here comes the invisible man again and the general groan in the pub like oh not again, like that everyone's playing along with this lunatic gets me and it's so well, uh, such a good reproduction of the original Universal film. Yes the I mean it. Oh my god. He does everything.

He does everything perfect, all of the all of the things that you would want to be done. And it was surprising for me to learn that that was not John Landis because it feels like such a Landis thing, like Dante, Dante more Danteantlantis That's what I thought. I mean, but I mean either one of them, like just like being like being a student of the game, like if you or I were doing that, I would want to have the original Universal opening, like you have to go there. You have to unlike the text and the music and the lighting and every and it's all there and yeah and it's and it's neither one of them. It's Carl Gottlieb.

Wow, Like that's beyond impressive. Yeah, Carl Gottlieb really turns it out in this film, Like all of his parody stuff is as uh well observed as any of the other guys here. But uh, you know what's funny is because I think Joe Dante like rises above everyone. But but my favorite segment is a Karl Gontley Joe Dante durancted Neckless Youth, which ends the movie, which to me is the funniest one of the thing. Not my favorite because I just love Ed Bagley being silly for however long.

But I think Reckless Youth is is deliriously funny. It has the funniest line in the movie, we haven't got any cigarettes? I mean, Paul Bartel I Actually the Reckless Youth segment didn't work for me only because I felt it went a little too long, a little too long, I don't know, like I got I don't know. For me, it was just I don't know the version that was longer than the one that I've seen. That's fair.

There's another they cut in another, like another whole moment that should have been cut. Maybe just me personally, I'm not interested in seeing a Reefer Madness style parody that could be it. Like I don't know, like I was just kind of like okay, like it's Carrie Fisher, Like I love Paul Bartell. So that was the huge saving grace of that for me, was it's just Paul Bartell being fucking hilarious. Yeah, the impact of those shock the youth into not doing drugs movies, the you know that JD kind of films, that that impact is much much less than here in twenty three than it was in nineteen eighty seven.

Like those are curiosities at best. Now. Well, I mean, Reefer Madness did it so well. It's like, yeah, that's the thing. It's almost like why parody the thing that's basically a parody of itself.

But I do think this one is so like like perfectly observed, you know, like what you were saying, But like you know, having Landis or Dante, they are students of cinema, so they're gonna get it right, Like like the one they keep reusing over and over again in Reckless Youth, you know, and now it's a Now it's a apartment. Now it's the doctor's office. Now it's the thing. Like that sort of thing makes me happy. The other thing that made me very happy is it ended up being a miracle picture.

If it's a good picture, it's a miracle miracle. Yeah, which is which is great. It's from Joe Dante's film Hollywood Boulevard. It was about a movie studio miracle pictures. So nice.

It was a nice call back to himself. There's lots of callbacks. There's a there's callum backs to fucking Kentucky Fried movie. In this film, Samuel Bronchowitz is right a few times and he's he's thanked in the credits. Yeah, but he's the one who signs the declaration of independence at the the big giveaway Troubling Evidence.

I've heard that. When I saw that it was the same guy from from Troubling Evidence, I was like, man, what you you picked a great You picked a great person to do this style of thing. You know. The John Ingle just has that voice like I don't know, it just it works for what he's trying. To do.

It works wonderfully because it starts out and it's the sort of areadite refined guy, and then he becomes the crazy Eddie style pitch man, so it's even funnier. Come and get King touched to him and we'll throw in the Declaration of Independence, like whoa everything must Yeah. I would say that John Landis for me is the best director of the piece, but I think I will have to go with Joe Dante because critics Corner and Roaster Loved One are such they're the two best pieces of thing in this like in terms of like actual narrative, because I would say there's a narrative through line between the two, so it's a mini narrative within this piece. I would say it's the best narrative thing here because it just it does everything perfectly, and it has Archie Han and Henny Youngman.

Archie that alone. Archie Han's so funny as the sad sack guy when he's watching the show for the first time and like the Artie crap, like that they review one movie and like he reviews it himself and then they've reviews something else. He says, you're an albino? What the hell do you know Archie Han being given an opportunity to be on screen as the as the lead of a segment just like what universe do we live in? Like I love it.

I'm I don't know. Yeah, Harvey Pitkin, Oh my god, it's it's such a good segment. It's basically he's watching Siskel and Ebert and they start reviewing his life in it and causes have a heart attack. It's so good. Belenda Balaski there, she's a she's a Joe Dante regular.

She was in the Verbs playing Harvey Pitkins wife. I will say there's a little bit of Ebert and Ciskle jabs, which I appreciate, Like it's again very very well observed the interactions between them, like you know when they would get all into each other and like in total agreement about something, Siskel and Ebert like getting really close, yeah, getting close to each other like and and holy shit, they even he even roast the two of them for their feelings on Animal House. Slab House, Yeah, France slabs and actual picture from Animal House, which is yeah. But I mean, as as a fan of Henny Youngman and you know those comedians like oh my god, like that entire segment is just insanity made of reality.

Now, let me once again say, here's where the fan had faulters, because the sequence that they've cut back into the film is Robert Pricardo arriving as their the paramedics have come to take away Harvey Pitkin's body, and he convinces the wife that they're going to do a roast, right, which includes, by the way, the paramedic is Brian Cranston, who has a credit on the movie and has apparently been vocal about how it's the one credit he would want taken off of his IMDb page because he's not in the movie. Because he's not in the movie, because the scene was never in the movie, right, Okay that Brian, I've seen it. Yeah, you've seen it. Now, I've seen it. That sequence is deleted for a reason because, let me tell you, when you went from Harvey Pitkin falling over and dying to a commercial to his funeral where it suddenly becomes a roast, that surprise is so much better than everything Pricardo and Bolaski are doing together in that scene.

Yeah. Again, I don't know. I don't know why you would put it back in unless it's just a completionist thing because I didn't think it worked very well either, because it would be better to not know where it's going. I mean, they don't say who's doing it. At least at least they're all like, well, it's going to be Slappy White and Rip Taylor, and it's like, at least they don't give up the ghost like that, but they pretty much let you know more or less where the joke is headed.

Yeah, here it comes, folks, here's the setup for the premise that there will be no surprise. And I'm not a huge fan of that. Yeah, but the roast itself is pretty fucking great. And Henny Youngman is terrible. Oh yeah, they're all terrible.

Yeah, which which is which is the best part? Including by the way, Jackie Vernon is up there on that panel. You remember him Offendi? Right, Oh my god, no Offendi? Oh Offendi.

I mean he's fucking oh happy both day. Yeah. I remember Jackie Vernon because he's the voice of Frosty the fucking Snowman. Yeah. I love Jackie Vernon.

I mean he's funny, he's fucking great. And Henny Youngman is hilarious, Like he really is, so funny. There's there's a moment where I will say, watch the outtakes where you can hear Joe Dante yelling directions to him, like what am I doing? What? Tell a joke?

A jew walks into a psychiatrist's office. It's just like he's bombing, but him bombing is the funniest. I even got Steve Allen there, like, good good on them. They really everything is like you said, well observed, which I think is the benefit here, Like if you have people who understand it and are able to communicate that in a believable way but still be funny, but convince me that you've seen the thing that you're parroting. I'm on board.

So what did you think of Video Pirates? I laughed for the whole time because Blaculo was the lead captain. Oh my god, he's so good. William Marshall uns Yeah, I love that segment that made us all deliriously happy in eighty seven when we were all pirating everything all the time. I loved it.

I mean, pirates now, baby pirates. At the end, they've got laser discs. Uh oh you can't record on him? Yeah? Oh my god?

And hey, hey, who's not a fan of Donald Gibb. Huh Nerds in Las Vegas, and I'm dying to run into him sometimes ogre. He will yell Nerds if you, if you, if you ask him, I mean, I mean, wouldn't you. Of course he's a bear of a man. Yeah.

Man, he's awesome. Yeah, he's all of Beatino and Santa is one of the pirates. He's fucking good too. Frank Allison is one of the pirates. Fucking a man like And I think Land has directed this one as well.

If you notice, or did he? It might have been Carl got this wise, uh dark Horse, Robert K. Weiss. Did you notice they had the treasure chest filled with the original master tapes that they could they they were gonna use to Did you see they had the titles in there? Uh?

Well? Two copies of See You Next Wednesday. There was a copy of Hitler's home movies. Oh wait, I got it right here, hold on, h oh, Police Squad, the movie which had been filmed but not released yet as The Naked Gun, Laurel and Hardy. There's an The Air Circus Deep Throat screen tests, and a copy of Cleopatra Schwartz.

Hey, there's that callback all the callbacks to the Kentucky Fried Yeah, I like that there are callbacks to Kentucky Fried movie in other segments that aren't directed by the Kentucky Fried movie people. I mean, I know Robert k Weiss was part of it, but like it would be like John land Is doing John Landis stuff. He wasn't necessarily just doing John Landi stuff, is what I mean. I appreciate that. I mean, again, there's a lot, a lot of a lot of the successes here are due to the way this is put together.

Yeah, which, yeah, you can tell that they are you talking about like the order of the of the segments, but also the editing and just the way these segments are put together. It's like they again they really understand what they're parody. Yeah, they do, and in a lot of cases recreating them like beat for beat that's not necessarily Sean for Sean. So yeah, like all the Pirate stuff, like the way they're filming the pirate ships, it all looks the way it's supposed to, and it's like, why are you going to throw all this effort or cutting in a lot of stock footage from from early pirate films from the fifties, so and it looks pretty fucking spot on right, right. I mean, look, Amazon Women on the Moon.

I think it is a varying degrees of success parody, but not in terms of production design. It's perfect, right, it is the it is perfect in terms of production design, like spot almost too good. Another segment where like, based on what he did in Matinee with Mant, I assumed Joe Dante had directed Amazon Women on the Moon in that segment, but again, this is that's Robert ka Weiss, and that seems to me that if you cut that movie together and just put it on I would be convinced that it were just another movie from the fifth right, completely completely, And that's what makes it such a success for me. And that's why I mean, I kind of always tend to say with stuff like this, the best kinds of parodies are parodies where they can be the thing that they're parodying just as well as a parody.

Like Hot Fuzz is a parody of action movies, but it's also a pretty good action movie in terms of what it's trying to do. And hot Shots is I mean hot shots, naked gun, I mean, all of those things kind of fall into the same camp or mafia either, and like, I don't know, like if you're putting in thought and time and effort, it comes through in what you're doing, certainly in this case. Yeah, I mean, this was probably a lark for all of these guys. But it's not like they didn't approach it in a serious manner and give us a professional and well thought out feature, right, I mean, not that this movie did very well or got seen Invaders. I think the total gross was like five hundred thousand dollars or something like that, and I can gladly can say I contributed to that five hundred thousand, And I don't understand why it wasn't a success other than I mean, part of it is part of it is the Twilight Zone thing.

Well, you know, this movie was shot in eighty five, eighty five and eighty six, and then they sat on it for a year until that trial was over. So you're not wrong. That was a big, a big detriment maybe to getting the movie out when they initially had intended, which is a shape. Yeah, but you know, it's not like Landis was was persona and on Garrada like he had to film his segments quick on this movie because he was prepping to go shoot the Three Amigos, you know, right just into the night, so right exactly, I mean exactly. So it's I think that's unfortunate that it kind of gets this weird spot of like, well, it kind of wasn't successful, and by kinda it wasn't, but it seems like maybe it was not the movie's fault.

I don't know, though, Like sketch comedy movies are kind of hard to tell though, because I don't I don't know how you feel about this statement, but I feel like I'm making the statement. This might be a hot take. I feel like sketch comedy movies are kind of a bad idea. Now they are, right, but like even then, I even then, like I feel like the lack of money that these things made kind of validates in a lot of ways. Like I think sketch comedy is better served in a medium where it can react to the world in a quicker pace as opposed to attempting to find a time in the world and parody that.

And also make sure we're topical because SNL is enjoyed because you can go back and see those things and they are topical to the time they came out stuff like this, some of these things like okay, like fine, but it just feels like we're kind of sitting and waiting for you to get onto the next thing. SNL. It's like I'm enjoying it within the framework of the time it came out, not saying we can't do that here with this. It just it seems a little harder. Definitely in this day and age, the immediacy with which you can parody something is just obliterates any necessity for a feature film that would make the same point or you know, even a different point on it.

Like it's I don't know that it's an unfortunate thing. I don't know that there should be more sketch comedy movies. I think I'm perfectly satisfied with the four I've talk that I brought up this. I know there are others. I'm not saying there aren't tunnel visions out there, and there are a few others, but I think they've represented a particular time and place when there was nothing like that, and certainly you weren't getting hard edged are rated kind of sketch material, But now you can get that fucking everywhere.

You can get it on Sunda and Alive basically right well, and that's and that's the thing. It's like that the time for this style of movie seems to have passed because yeah, TikTok short form short I mean vine YouTube, TikTok short form entertainment is sketch comedy if you if you can push it that far, and there have been people that have pushed it that far, then now have jobs on SNL because of so, which is which is a weird thing to think about. It's in a lot of ways. I mean, you know, Second City exists, the groundlings exist, but now you can mine the bigger pool of the Internet. So have at it.

But at the same time, it also almost invalidates anything other than legacy things existing as sketch comedies because it's like, there's it's so hard to get anybody's attention anymore unless you're SNL. That's true. But there, you know, there's some there's some good other sketch comedy shows out there. I can't think of any at the moment, Tim Robinson, I think you should leave. That's certainly one that people like I can understand why you would not like it.

One I'm not necessarily not. I mean, he maybe he seems like a perfectly nice guy. I just I don't respond to the humor. What about Eric Andre a little closer? I can.

I can kind of appreciate his just because I don't necessarily love uncomfortable humor, but I can. I can appreciate it. What about Jackass? Oh, I love Jackass, but that's sketch comedy, right, yeah, I mean in that there, Yeah, because the show is more I'm not talking the movies. The movies kind of give it up.

But the show had a lot of like sketch comedy stuff. Yeah, like a lots of like man on the Street shit, and like a lot of scripted stuff as well. Yeah, like where you again, pranks, but like something as as simple as Chris Ponnie is dressed like the Devil, like out there saying keep God out of California. Like that's a that's a sketch, right, It's just unknowing participants, But it is a sketch if you want to be a really good It's not current now, it's a couple of years old, but there was a there's a great comedy sketch show from Canada called The Baroness von Sketch. That one's really really good.

You can learn through that sometime. Well, I mean, isn't there are plenty of like British sketch comedy shows, the Mighty Boush. I mean you know, oh yeah, I mean any think Matt Barry has essentially been in in the UK, like a lot of his stuff is sketch comedy. That's rap at all. Have we talked about that?

Do what much? Toast of London at all? His show? This is the second time this has come up today. Yeah, Maggie, the Odds suggested Toast of London to me earlier because we were talking about Matt Barry.

Have you seen it? You haven't seen it? You should definitely want. Okay, the pilot is barious. I've watched it like five times.

Interesting. Yeah, I mean I love Matt Barry. I mean I love Matt Berry in What We Do in the Shadows and Garth Marenghi's Dark Place. But I mean Lazlow in Laslow is my fucking like spirit animals so hard in that show and everything about the energy that hit he has I love and I love I mean in a show of roles that are massive that take up the screen. He manages to be the biggest one on screen at any time, which I mean is I mean testament to Matt Berry is an actor, So sketch comedy is all around.

I just think it's very far off in the distance. You know, I have a pair of underwear with Matt Berry on them as a as a normal human. You get them on like team. I don't know where. I don't know my girlfriend Amber got them.

Where are they selling Matt Barry underwears? The question, it's like a question that needs to kind of be answered now the random day, I might be walking around with Matt Berry plastered across my ass, you know what. I feel like Matt Barry would approve of that. I hope So, I mean, I'm a big fan. I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

I would love to see a like a sketch comedy thing with like with with more recent actors, and then we have movie forty, like you know what I mean, Like I ask for those kinds of things to happen, and then we see those kinds of things happen and it's a fucking nightmare. I think the problem is it needs to happen organic right right, totally, Like I'm sure Jim Mulholland and Michael Barry wrote that sketch comedy thing out of their frustration from writing sketches for Johnny Carson for years, you know, right right totally. Uh so like this, hey, let's all get together make a movie like we're Mackey Rooney and fucking Judy Garland, like Movie forty three or whatever. Like no, it's it's always a good idea to get a bunch of people together to make something and get different points of view and everything.

But like it has to come from some central source. You need a Ken Shapiro or you landis yeah or is he a z or any I mean again, like I don't know even but you know, we say you need a Ken Shapiro. But Groove two was not as successful as it could have been because it was Ken Shapiro in a lot of ways, or it was only Ken Shapiro, I guess is a better way. You know that four leaf clover sketched where he's pounded on chevy Chase's head. Chevy Chase said that he almost knocked him out there at the end.

Ken Shapiro, he says, at the start, you can see he's just padding and then he's going for it like he was not holding back, he never held back. Gotta love it, Gotta love it. Still a good movie. I think all the movies we watched this month have been pretty good. Like again, like because again, like sketch comedy is just so hard to do anyways, Like the fact that they work at all is frankly a surprise, but like the fact that they work as well as they do, And each each of the movies has a sketch that I think is good enough to warrant watching the entire movie.

I mean, you just mentioned one of my favorite parts of the group too, and now I love it even more. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I agree with that every one of these movies has one sketch that I can say you should watch the whole thing, and this one has multiple sketches. Actually, yeah, the Henry Silva one is up there. Everything with Archie Han is definitely up there.

I really like the Matt the Matt Adler the Titan Condoms thing, because that just feels like a someone's nightmare made reel, like the nightmare that any one of us would have ever had buying condoms as teenagers. You won the prize. No, no, I just wanted one. Yeah, it's it that. I mean, that's somebody's horrifying nightmare made reality, and I love it.

Frankly, the first time I went to buy condoms, that scene was in my head. I believe it. I believe it. I believe it. I just say, you need its break up, Sonny, like, oh god, oh god, No, what's great is it's uncomfortable on every level.

Like it's the kindled man who's talking about his mother because she brought him preserves and she'll call him right now. I was young, Ronce. I know about a man like you wants a licorice stick. These A friend just came in, like I have to break this old man's heart. And now I've got a Oh great, Now Howard Hesman is here and a giant anthropomorphized condom.

Yeah yeah, yeah. Also the giant pecker is is jakid lord. I will say I think in terms of like understated and working. Like the most understated segment in the entire piece, and the one that maybe I laughed the hardest at while I was watching it was Peter Pan Theater. It's like the joke is so understated until it's not, and then it is again.

And I just I love that it's played so straight. I love how straight it is played. And it's got Jenny Agutter, who I think the last time we saw her was like Tales from the Crypt. That's true unless you watched The Avengers recently. Uh uh not?

Yeah, yeah, she's one of the counsel and the Avengers. Oh yeah, okay, that's another land this obviously, this is the American Werewolf connection with Jenny Agutor, And I agree with you, like the idea that it's sort of stunt theater, that the whole joke is that because everyone was so wowed by Sandy Duncan flying around the theater as Peter Pan, that they're now going to have that same function in other shows like Anthony and Cleopatra, where she, for no reason at some point flies away. I just wish that the last scene where they're doing uh what are they doing, Uncle Vanya. Yeah, I wish like more of them had just been floating around during the scene, like I wanted more and more of it. Yeah, I agree, but I think because it is so so short, it the joke doesn't get old, right, and h that's another cut segment by it's a deleted scene.

It's a shame. It's funny, it's really funny. It's it's an understand it's not the ha that everybody would want from that, but it is a ha haha of a different variety. And I loved it. But what about video dating.

He's a segment that I believe that it's like a direct sequel to the news segment at the end of Kentucky Fried movie where the New Right, but like taken to a fucking lunatic level. I love this segment. The cast is perfect. Russ Meyer is the fucking guy giving him the video tape at the beginning, who has my favorite line reading and the entire thing when he tells him his name Ray Ray, Like yeah, And I love Mark McClure. I mean, look, he's fantastic.

And the thing's Marty McFly's brother, is he not? Absolutely is? And he's fucking Jimmy Olsen in the original Christopher Eves Superman. If you look on the table that he sits down when he when he sits down with his popcorn, there is a copy of Jimmy Olson comic there. You know what, I have not seen the Original Superman, any of the Superman's Oh okay, well, anyway, he's Jimmy Olsen in those movies.

Have you ever heard of Sea's Candy? It's a very big yeah. Actually yeah yeah, his parents owned that. Oh so I'm assuming he Yeah. Richard Donner said it was lovely having Mark McClure and the cast because he always brought such a delicious candy with him.

I mean, Sea's Candy's fucking delicious. So is just guess. I mean, my my mom grew up in San Francisco, and that's a holdover thing that now is everywhere that you can get. So I'm with you on the Sea's Candy must be nice. Holy shit?

Uh see so thin? Yeah, Bob boy, it would be like Augustus Glupe brother, Like, I don't know how you're that thin being, the being, the heir to a chocolate dynasty. But hey, we finally get to talk about our friend. Hey, Diddle, Diddle, the cat and the fiddle go fuck yourself, fucking Andrew Dice Clay. Oh no.

When he showed up, I was like, man, oh, we finally get to talk about the Dice man. Do what what? What tech would you like to take on Andrew dice Clay because I've I experienced him starting here through the big rise and the insane sort of fame level and then the big controversy on Saturday Night Live where Nora Dunn refused to participate if he was going to be the host, and I despised that character that he was doing that, just the sexist, vaguely racist Peluca kind of character Fonzie with turettes is how he's a fucking gumba. Yeah, Like, I don't like that character. Now.

On the other hand, Andrew Andrew dice Clay, that the guy Andrew Klay Silverstein there. He's very very funny, and he's very very talented. He's a very good actor. He's great here in the segment. I've of late really enjoyed his sort of straight dramatic performances.

He was on Vinyl Martin Scorsese show on HBO where he was great in that, and then he was just in a Stars Born as Lady Gaga's dad, the limo driving father. Who's who's you know, he's I don't know. I like him a tremendous deal now, But when he was at his most famous for what he created, I did not like him at all. Yeah, I mean, I think I will say that I think the character of the dice Man is a funny anachronistic thing that could only have existed at the time it existed at, and it could only have existed so successfully at the time that it existed at. Because yeah, Jack and Jill went up the hill and they had sex together and then they rolled down the hill together.

Is not something that anybody in twenty twenty three gives a shit about. But I guess in the late eighties early nineties that was all the rage was dirty limericks and jokes. So you know, look, I think Andrew dice Clay is the character is exactly what you said. But I think it's a funny anachronism of a time long past. In terms of Andrew dice Clay the man, I ain't got no problem with him.

He seems like a normal person, and his interviews and things that he has done outside of the character seemed to reinforce that. So it seems like an interesting guy. I met him once at Frankie's Tiki Room. He was very sweet. It seems like you'd be a nice guy.

He's a stand up comedian, man. He seems like a decent sort but it's unfortunate that he was that guy. I can appreciate that you that your perspective of it as is a curio. My perspective is a little different because I was watching it all unfold, right, I mean I get I get that and like seeing people actually you know, in a lot of ways, it's and you know, I don't want to compare it to this, because this is much more well thought out and it has longer legs for a number of reasons. It's kind of like Borat, Like you know, like Borat, I mean, Borat exists in COVID, which I still can't believe.

But like I don't think we would ever would have gotten another Borat thing if not for COVID. But it's that same level of like, what a weird thing that like everybody was seemingly into like for a while, and now like I would that would not like a Kazakhstani journalist being weird and racist and saying like again like miss misshearing people saying retired and retarded like that that joke alone does not play for a lot of people. Now, Like it's still funny because I think what he's going for is funny, but it's it and of itself, isn't a weird anachronism of a time not long past as much as Andrew dyce Clay, but still has that feeling of like man, comedies kind of come a long way in terms of what people are willing to laugh at, which is a shame in and of itself.

I don't want to sound like, oh, you can't do funny things anymore, but there are just some things people can't joke about anymore. They're just are That is just reality, and that's okay, that's perfectly fine. Uh, you can't joke about them until somebody finds in a way to actually make it funny, and then we'll because as long as it's actually fucking funny, it isn't isn't coming from a punching down place, then then you can kind of get behind it. I'm of the type that believes that, you know, I mean, yeah, anything is fonder for for humor, and in fact, a lot of horrible things necessitate humor just to deal with them, it would seem. But it does need to come from a place of love, right, And that's the problem.

It's like the you know, a lot of the a lot of the offensive humor now comes from a place of political politicization, and it gets confused with a certain a certain subsect of the political spectrum. And it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate because like that, the offensive comedy has a place and I am a huge fan of offensive comedy because offending people is not a problem if you're funny. I I agree with you. I say that there are some things you can't joke about, because there are some things that most people won't let you joke about unless you are really punching it right in the face.

Right, But punching it in the face is not something most people are wanting to do because that's hard to do and hard to do well, hard to do well unless you're super skilled that then it's all just sort of nonsense. There has to be some thought behind it. You have to be making a point when you're doing it. It's it's not enough to you know. It's like the reason the commercial parodies from groove Tube don't work anymore.

It's it's based on a familiarity with something and nothing else. And all of this punching down sort of humor is hopefully on the way out, you know. But so your point about video date, I think that segment's fucking hilarious. It's a good and sketch for the movie. I think, Yeah, as much of it's as much as kind of an indictment of the audience being complicit in the horseshit you've been watching.

You know, Now we're going to take the guy who's complicit off to jail. Yeah, it's funny, it's and and Mark McClure plays harried perfectly. And now I'd like to mention karn Wall, the model in the scene who's seducing him and then gives him up before she's murdered by Andrew Dice. Clay grew up in Lynn, Massachusetts, which borders Revere, Massachusetts. Was the town right next to mine Lynn, Lynn, City of sin Anyway, she was married to Ken Wall at the time.

Remember him me neither. He's an actor. He was in his TV series called Wise Guy. It's actually pretty actually pretty good actor. I know, I agree, I think it was.

I think it's a good way to leave the audience. It's uh, it kind of brings it full circle because we've been just watching TV the whole time and now we get to witness this might have been the guy who's been watching the TV all night, by the way, this might this might be our viewer, and now he's gone out to rent a movie and this is where he ends up. And by the way, I love that there are police on the television and in the room. It's all so surreal and weird. And the cop on the television is reading him his rights as the cops in the room or handcuffing.

I'm taking away. It's so bizarre. Yeah, it's no I I I loved it, and I love I love where they went. I love where they went with it as well. And I love that the mayor from RoboCop two is the cop.

Yeah, that's right. I don't know why he sticks in my mind, but his like his mayor in RoboCop two, is just one of the strangest roles that I forgot about that that whole movie is strange. RoboCop two is a weird movie, thanks Frank Miller. Yeah, it needs a remake, Actually it needs an exorcism. That movie's fuck.

I mean, look, it has tom noon and then it's so I'm great at that movie. And that Robboteen made that like Torso of Peter Weller at one point that's like he's all busted up. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so realistic and crazy. Those are the two good things about that movie, not the score or it's terrible. Bassel Pauladoras turned in his worst score ever for RoboCop two.

Robo call I haven't yeah, I mean I've never seen beyond that, so I can't even commented it if it gets worse. But RoboCop two is not great compared to RoboCop one. But RoboCop one is like comparing Ghostbusters one to Ghostbusters too. It's like, this is unfair. It does have one moment that could have been in the first RoboCop, which is they're showing the the attempts at making other robocops after Murphy and how how dileterious those scenarios ended up being at this.

So they show one guy he's in the robot suit and he's got you can basically it's just he's just a skull and he's screaming and he shoots himself in the head. Like is this first movie? Yeah, so no, you're right, Like that should have been in the first movie. That Yeah, that that is just as mean spirited as the first film. Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's weird to me that the fan edit has Silly Pete in the credits.

Yeah, it's that's super weird. See that. That is what makes me question fan edit. And I know most of the viewers here are gonna be like, what the fuck are these idiots talking about. I've just seen this one movie with none of that shit it.

But Silly Patay was supposed to go between the Picnic right review and then the funeral. That's where I always saw it, and it's perfect there because you think you're going to continue on elsewhere and then you get dragged back to the Picnic funeral and it's you know, it's it's such a throwaway thing that why would you put it there? This person in the film with that segment, that's wrong. It must have really liked it. Yeah, I guess so, Yeah, it I think for me where it was, it ends up kind of hurting it because I was like, why is it?

Why did you put it here? Of all the things to put at the end. Yeah, No, we just need don Nolso Simmons and we need Murray again, fade out and Reckless Youth. Then we're done, and let's talk about the other segment that was cut. The French ventriloquist to me, Oh, which I really liked.

Actually, I was going to say I did not mind it at all either, and I kind of understand and why it was cut because it is kind of a one note joke, but it is still I mean, I guess maybe my sense of humor is not what everybody else wants and yours isn't either, so that's that's our fault. Segment features a ventriloquist dummy operated by an American who the dummy is from France, and the ventriloquis dummy only speaks French, so it will only respond to him in French, so he has to get a translator puppet who speaks both French and English translate the act. I don't know, that's ridiculously off the wall. But then the stinger, of course is that you know they cut to France where they the French guy has the American puppet who's just like a goofball American and like they're judging him for not being French enough, and it has the craziest voice.

It's voices. I'm glad that we don't hear it very much of that voice, because that voice is insane. Do you know who did that voice? No, I don't know. I'm curious.

No, I don't. I didn't. I had no idea it did. I couldn't find the answer to that question. That's horrifying.

Do you know who directed that segment? That's Joe Dante? Of course it's Joe Dante. It's Dick Miller, Baby, that's Dante. That segment should have been in the movie.

I'd prefer that segment over the Unknown Soldier sketch actually, in terms of it syncing up with the fact that it's a Joe Dante thing with Dick Miller. Yeah, because Joe Dante, Dick Miller Peanut, Butter and Jelly, and he's not in this other one. Actually, you know what, I think they could have removed first Lady of the Evening, the romance novel parody. Yeah, that's a that's that's a blackout sketch. And I also think they could have removed Silly Patte, also a blackout sketch, but it needs to be and then left in the Unknown Soldier and the Ventriloquist dummy.

The Unknown Soldier is just it's it's such a dark joke and they're too long. But there's nothing as dark in the movie as that joke other than I guess video date. Yeah, that's pretty bleak, but the Unknown Soldier thing is beyond bleak. And like again, like the implications and also the idea of like these three upper ups in the military essentially having a guy kill himself to be the unknown soldier is like if there's a lot of subtext there that we could get into if you want. But I mean again, like I don't know, there's a lot going on there to talk about.

And I appreciate that kind of like Scott Free, you know, the one. I like Scott Free in a lot of ways for me. Yeah, in that it's challenging us in an official capacity. But we haven't talked about uh, I mean we met you mentioned it very briefly at the thing about how precient it was. But the dating sequence with rasennaar Kent and speaking of after hours, and uh Steve Guttenberg love that sequence.

Yeah, in terms of the most in terms of the most topical, I think it's the most topical because uh, Steve Guttenberg is apparently the perfect nice guys in disguise thing? Do what that a thing? I mean that you're cut you're cutting in an out real bed, I said, is that a thing? Like? Is Steve Gutenberg a real creep in real life?

I don't know. I just I like the idea, like the what was that movie Single White Female that came out a couple of years ago that has Bo Burnham doing a very similar thing, but a lot more nefarious, where it's like a guy who is attempting and outwardly being like very feminist and kind of like, oh, you know, I love these things. I love Meryl Streep. And then it's like all the reality sinks in and he can't like confront it. Like that's what it felt like.

It felt oddly pressent in a way I was not expected. And again it works because it's Steve Guttenberg and he's a nice guy. I'm assuming, Yeah, I think it's I think it's fantastic. Like the premise of the sketches, he's picking this girl up for their first date and he's speeling all of the things that girls want to hear. I guess, you know, Oh I love sushi.

Oh I love sushi. Oh, working you know what my VCR. I'm taping a Meryl Streep movie. I love Meryl Streep. Like, and then she asked for a credit card and in an ID and gets a print out that includes his entire romantic and sexual history provided by everyone he's ever dated, including the fact that every line he's used on her he has used previously and like the number of times.

So I don't know, I just thought that was deliriously funny. No, it is, well, I think, yeah, I remember her. I think we dated a few times. You had sex with her on the second date. You never called her again, So yeah, it's it is.

It's it's weird because again, like it's I mean, the dating apps and all those things have kind of gone you know that way, and people, I mean, people are more open and honest, and that's a good thing. But I like that this is like pushing for that in a way, like and pushing for like again, like be careful because you'd ever know, this guy might just be putting on airs and yeah, like Steve, Steve Gutenberg is perfect stunt casting. Yeah, he was really big at that moment. He had like two other movies come out the same year, So and yeah, you're right, he's like the perpetual nice guy, Like he's sweet and innocent, so of course he loves Meryl Stream, right, you know. Yeah, he seems like an America's Dad type like Steve Gutenberg does.

Yeah, and I just loved the idea of creeps like that getting put on the run because he immediately leaves her apartment calls another girl who then asks that he bring an idea and in a credit card as well. So it's like, yeah, that's that is something that should happen. There should be a network for for women to protect them against dickheads like this. Yeah, no, it's a it's it's a fun it's a fun sketch that you had. The payoff at the end is fantastic, you know, Oh I need you to bring you know, these two things like damn.

Yeah no, it's oddly prescient and yeah, casting Steve Gutenberg just makes it that that much funnier. And rose I mean Roseanne Arquett has such a strange energy about her. She's right, yeah, can't stop watching her. She's so flighty. Yeah, that's the word I would use.

She's just flighty, like like I don't know, like she's just hovers above the ground. It's just just such. She has some interesting energy. Yeah, I don't know if I have anything else about Amazon Women on the Moon. Brother.

Yeah, I was gonna ask you. Your video keeps freezing intermittently, so like I can't tell when you're it's okay. Sorry, No, it's a fucking apologist. I was letting you know. That's why I was like, there have been some longer pauses on my end.

Well, if you've got nothing else, I've got nothing else. I think we've we've covered. I actually know what I will. I will say one more thing about fan edit. To your point, there is a point behind fan edits and fan edits for me, should enhance what you've already seen in a substantive way.

And I feel like reintroducing the things that we're missing could be construed as that. And I think two thirds of it works. But yes, some of the things I feel like could have been taken out too. I didn't have to be everything all of it. You can't take things out as well.

That is also a fan edit. Fan editing is not just adding. It can also be taking out, retracting, removing, which he does none of that here. He just puts everything in and I don't have Believe me, I do not have a problem with a fan edit. I love seeing what a fan their version of what that movie could look like.

And if they have a bunch of other elements and they can recontextualize it and re edit it to that, you know, why not that that's great. I just think that it's not the best place to view something the first time. Right. Fan edits are for comparison, right, I agree with you, So that's all. I think you should watch it.

I think everyone should see all of this movie. But you know, you can see all the deleted scenes and everything on YouTube if you're looking for them, just watch the movie ads And I think you know, like the Spice Diver's version of David Lynch's doing is the one that I watch whenever I watch it, because that's a fan edit that takes the things that need to be there and adds it and takes out the things that don't, and rotoscopes the eyes to be blue. It does the things that you would do to make the movie make more sense. Just adding adding everything in doesn't necessarily right, and that's that's what happened here. But I agree with you.

I've watched that version as well of doing it. It's pretty good. It's fantastic. Yeah, so yeah, foughtom alone. Final thought on Amazon Women on the Moon.

Watch Amazon Women on the Moon. You are going to laugh. There is no doubt one of these segments is going to get you. And you can't say that about any other comedy you're going to watch. So see Amazon Women on the Moon.

Watch sketch comedy. It's fantastic. Go see it in person. Never mind all of this cinematic bullshit. There are improv groups in every fucking city in America.

Go support them us. That's what I want to say about Amazon Women on the Moon. Also, like it bears repeating or it needs repeating, I love Joe Dante and I love John Landis. I'm sorry to see you guys go well they have either one of them made anything in a while either. Like the last thing Landis did that I can remember was Burke and Hair with Simon Pagan Andy Circus.

I'm in Pagan Andy Circus, which I kind of liked. Actually it was a you know, if you're into Landis's level of humor, then that's that. That was pretty good. Joe Dante, what was the last thing he did Nightmare Cinema. I think he did a segment of Nightmare Cinema Anthology.

So they're still working. I know Dante does a lot of television. I can't tell you what Landis has been up to of late. Doesn't matter. They don't need to prove anything to anybody, right, right, exactly, And you know I agree this.

I think you know I would advise watching everything this month, but definitely for me, I have enjoyed this the most of everything because I think it hits all of the right notes the right amount of times. So yeah, I mean, look, Scott Free, I think is the funniest thing I saw this month. But Amazon Women on the Moon is just Amazon Women on the Moon really is just there's a lot of fun to be had, and there's a lot of interesting things that John Landis and crew, Joe Dante, Carl Gottlie, Robert k. Wise, all of them do interesting things to justify doing the things that they've done. And everything works for the most part, even the things that don't work still more or less work.

Like even the things that don't work still work rather good, maybe not well, but good enough. So so on that note, we'll take a break and we'll play view for the first Culture cast of Horror October May. Life was good to the peris of Piquot, Landing. For three hundred years they lived in this place. The generations were rich with love, and the most beloved of all were the twins, Niles and Holland.

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Oh yes, ah, yes, a good movie. That's a good move. Yeah, it's a yeah, and yeah it's yeah. Just if you've you've never heard of it, don't don't go looking it up, at least unless you're going to try and watch it. It's best best left not knowing anything about it before you go and watch it.

And I will be joined go ahead, sir for the title only, Yeah, exactly, and I will be joined up by my good friend Adam Long of of his own podcast. Now he has his own podcast where you can listen to him talking to directors and people in the industry. So yeah, we'll be doing that to kick off Horror Toober. Until then, Father Malone, where can people find you? Find me at father Malone dot com for am I individual cuckoo bullshit and find me a podcastwise at Weirdingwaymedia dot com, Chris mentioned a whole bunch of them noise junkies and midnight viewing, the Night Gallery podcast and our Taxi podcast that I do with HP that is night mister Walters.

You can find all that shit over there, same with me Weirdingwaymedia dot com, where you can find all the things that I work on and a whole lot more so. Yeah, Weirdingwaymedia dot com is for this show. Culturecast dot com, Patreon dot com, ten, twenty and fifty, or the levels that you can get in at if you're interested in supporting the show financially, but like rate and review the show wherever you get it, which is more than likely iTunes. Father Balan, thank you so much for joining me this month and programming the month and knocking out of the park as always, my friend, well entirely my pleasure. I really appreciated the opportunity to watch these movies again guilt free.

I like that, guilt free perfect h and as always, will catch you on the next episode.