The Kentucky Fried Movie

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I feel like I feel like airplane makes more sense because naked gun is more of a narrative move. It's more of a narrative thing. An airplane is more of a narrative thing. Because I would go as far as to say the parts of this that have narratives in it are the parts that I didn't like more than the other parts. And in this which I think says something about where they these three end up getting with the things that they end up doing that are more narrative based.

But on this episode of the Culture Cast, I am still your host, Chris Dash and I'm joined by one person who's shaking their head at me already and the other who is giving me an opportunity to defend myself. Just kidding. I hated this movie. Everybody. I was shaking there alone was He's like, oh, we're starting off hot already.

He didn't like it. No, No, that is not the case. I will not be I will not be hating on what was it last episode? Heather the clown, the yu yucko, the clown. I've already gotten trolled on Twitter for my Yeah, you know who's here.

He's right in this call. He's here, folks, all the way from Noise Junkies, Father Malone, who is now waving at all you have my gratitude, and all the way from Noise Junkies and Mondo Heather dot com Heather drained. This is not sure which is us, which is sampled in reference later on in a fish though. Because we're Norse junkies babies, you know we're gonna bring the music references. That's what we dare.

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So on this episode of the Culture Cast, if you didn't figure it out by the name of the episode alone, we're gonna be talking about the Zuckem's God damn it, Zucker Abram's Zucker Joint from nineteen seventy seven that pre dated everything else they did. Like we've already mentioned the Naked gun films, Airplane, all that good stuff, We're gonna be talking about a little sketch comedy film called The Kentucky Fried Movie. Award winning motion picture producer Samuel L. Bronkowitz, I have spent a lifetime in the motion picture industry. Now, after fifty years in Hollywood, I have finally produced what I feel is the finest motion picture ever made.

I have called it the Kentucky Fried Movie, the Kentucky Fried Movie, Harold's the retrain to trade additional values, I'm not wearing any pants film at eleven. It is a film of heartfelt passion, a great love story. Oh take me to the drive and prove you. It explores the subtle nuances of interpersonal relationships. Of course, there are occasional moments of comic relief.

The Kentucky Fried Movie is a film that demands the greatest performances from the finest actors of the cinema. He looked why whoa, I tell you this building is unsafe, pies and flames. The National boards powles to deal with a situation. Governor, what are we going to do? And I anticipated ten percent price hike across the board.

I'm petroleum pros. I invite every man, woman and child to share with me the joy and warmth of the Kentucky Fried Movie. It will knock your socks off. So the film is directed by Oh, here we go, We're already here, folks. I'm just I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. I think I think realistically anymore with any of this stuff. If it's twenty twenty three and you don't know any of this stuff, just go do yourself a favor and look it up. We don't need to bring it up every time and get into it over and over again. Just do yourself a favor and know that there are human beings involved in making things in Hollywood.

And guess what. Human beings have problems, and some of those people make decisions that get other people hurt. And some people make decisions that get themselves hurt, and you know, everybody suffers the consequences. So John Landis is one of those people. He's a lesser than some, but unfortunately problems.

Yes, other than John Landis, it's written by Zucker Abrams, Zucker, Jim Abrams, David Zucker, and Jerry Zucker, and they show up a couple times in the movie too. And there's a long list of people, and I think we'll kind of mention everybody as we go through it. But the bigger names that show up Donald Sutherland, Henry Gibson, Bill Bixby, George Lasenby, otherwise known as Everybody's favorite hipster, James Bonn. And yeah, it's a sketch comedy movie, and there's there's a fair amount of sketches, and then there are a couple longer, more narrative based things, and we'll talk about them when we get to him. So, Father Malone, as always, I will give the floor to you.

Why when hell, all the questions you're gonna answer, so I'm not even going to ask them. You know where we're going. Okay, I was too young to have seen this in the theater, though I desperately wanted to. Actually, you know what, I have seen this in there. I saw years later.

But I did not see this until I was probably ten or eleven, maybe on cable talk to five. But by then I had already seen airplanes or I was already a fan of theirs. The airplane I did see in the theater, and and had watched Police Squad sort of as it was airing, So I was already very acquainted with them, and I was already already desperately in love with them as well as John Landis by then, because by then I had already seen Blues Brothers in American Werewolf in London and Animal House as well. So here's this treat of these guys that I love and this other guy I love making a movie like before they made anything, and here they are doing it together. And Rick Baker's in there too.

So, uh, my little horror nerd comedy heart was in heaven watching this rewatching the movie. You know, forty odd year later, I still love it. I know it's dated, I know it's got problems, and I know it's it's uh, it's it is a shaky first step in a lot of ways for them, as filmmakers. But I still marvel at how sure footed it is for John Landis as his real first feature. I mean, he scrabbled together schlock on his own, just picking up where you can.

This is the first time somebody said, here's half a million dollars, go make a movie. And boy howdy, they're lucky they got him, because this very well could have been the Groove Tube as far as quality of the film, but they lucked into a filmmaker who wanted to make everything look real and cinematic. And I don't know, I've I've loved it since then. I'll continue to love it after. I'm gonna watch it again after we stomped talking there Entucky Fried movie ever question posed to you?

First of all, preach my newest junkie brother. I love that I be being blessed, like hello to your episode. I got to grow up like because my mom, you know, would watch State Live or rent used to could rent like tapes that were like the best of us and now and you know says sketch comedy is always deep in my love in my heart. And she would always tell me, oh my god, this movie she saw a Kasche Freight movie as a teenager in the and it was just like, oh my, this movie is so funny. And when I got a little older, she readed it.

And even though some of it, like I think this is an example of the movie on like Groove two, but even some of the stuff that's dated, like the comedy is so great. And in fact, I because this is like what stuck in my head. I was trying to think, like how would I describe this to somebody who hasn't seen it? And you know, I was ever good heard of it, and it's like this movie is is so great. It has zesti absurdest humor that has like this sense of pure fun that like say like you're a little tussled hair that's all hot up up on pigsie sticks and mad magazine that it has that interview.

I'm not and I'm not saying everything's perfect about it, but I think as far as this kind of goes, it's one of the best. Is so much of the comedy still holds up. It's hilarious. There's several parts that I just like, like, I still it literally makes me snort like obnoxious laugh, like the cats running out of the room laugh. I love it.

I mean, and I think the thing to keep in mind it's much like anthology. And you guys know this because you've literally have done podcasts on Tales from the Crypt, and you know is that not everything, statistically, not everything's gonna land equally when you do that kind of format and sketch comedy, even more so because it's even timier. So if you get a film where more of it lands than not and the wave like overall cohesive, I think you're doing pretty good. But Chris, you this was your first time. Greg, Yeah, well, I tell us about your journey, give us your summary.

Man, it was my first time. No, you know, I want to mention something here about John Landis and my feelings about one of my favorite movies. I one of my favorite movies is American Werewolf and classic, and that movie doesn't exist without something like that. So I have to take that into consideration because again I don't want to be biased. Is my given that American Werewolf in London is a movie that really cemented for me not only my love of horror, but also a horror movie that feels so much smarter than like so much of the stuff that was coming out at the time.

And it had such a unique voice. And that's all here in this. I mean, yes, it is a Zucker Abrams Zucker thing, but like you've already mentioned, Father Malone, John Landis and what he brings to this is something that Ken Shapiro lacked with the Groove Tube, which is a force of will that is hard to really tussle with. I genuinely believe John Landis is a force of will as a direct because a lot of the things that he's gotten done and decisions that he's made. And I'm not talking, I'm not making allusions to the negative.

I'm making allusions to the things that have worked, like being the person to work with Michael Jackson on Thriller and to work with someone of that caliber and get along with them and actually make something of value with someone else like who is also relatively hard to I think John Landis this movie works not because of Zucker Abram Zucker, but because they were able to have someone like John Landis who goes, Okay, I see what all your ideas are. Let's do something that's not just bullshit thrown at the wall constantly. It feels like John Landis's direction is the thing that makes this movie works so much more than the I think this. I mean even for the parts of this that don't work, which are a couple and one of them is extended.

It doesn't work because probably the source material also isn't something I necessarily gravitate. But at the same time, it still hangs together, hangs together better than the other thing. Similar in the Groove to the Dealers, where that was like fifteen twenty minutes. I would rather watch The Fistful of Yen or even the Courtroom Parody. I would rather watch either of those over the longest segment from the movie we watched last, And that is because that John Landis's direction in that narrative portion of the movie feels like someone who already knows how to make movies and he's gonna show everybody that pretty quickly after this movie comes out with the next thing he works on.

So again my feelings on him personally aside, he ends up directing Animal House a year later. So and that movie, I mean Animal House and Blues Brothers and then American Werewolf for three movies in a row. That if you were the director of any one of those movie that would be great, But directing all three, and being writer on two of the three credited is not anything to sneeze at. And then he goes on to work on so many other things, and one of those things will end up talking about later this month with Amazon Women on the Moon. Yeah.

Now, John Landis, he's a director, and I think I think this is a sign, Like to be a great director, you have to love obviously, you have to love cinema. You have to get what cinema too. You have to have that passion, and he has that. I mean even nowadays we pop up and something like Trailers from Hell or you know, any neutb documentaries like this is a Cat Loves still Loves Loves talking about from those and I think, especially when you're doing something like this of this nature, you have to get it. Like if you're gonna parody like something like Flight with the fist fullient, you have to like not only love congort, but you have to kind of know some of the tropes of some of the schlock.

You're right to have fun with that or so yeah, I love that you brought that up. And yeah, I mean, come on, American Werewolf in London. That's yeah, it's a great it's a's a. It's an immaculate make not just a horb but also a subversive comment. What's great about John Landis is he has a definite visual style.

But here in the service of this movie. The industrial films look like industrial films, The commercials look like commercials, the courtrooms like a courtroom driver from television. The am television stuff looks like that. It's as I said, it's a marvel. Now.

He got involved in this because he had been hired by a guy named Robert ka Weiss, who was sort of a talent impresario. He had hired Landis to make an innumerable amount of industrial and training video which he had done, including like thirty thirty minute cassents for the LAPD, like training videos on like how to use your sap, you know, like your leather thing that's now illegal for them to carry anyway. So they he had been making the yeah, been making for Weiss, and Weiss was also involved with this theater troupe, the Kentucky Fride Theater on Pico over near the twenty century Fox lot. And they saw Landis on Johnny Carson promoting Schlock twenty one year old. It was like a novelty.

Twenty one year old kid makes his own movie, and they were like, hey, we saw this kid on Carson he made a movie. We should make a movie. And Robert k Weis is like, well, let me put you two together. Right, So they had written a movie called Kentucky Fried Airplane that they gave to Landis, like, we want to make this movie. And he read it and he said this is zero hour and they said yeah.

He said, that's plagiarism. No, but in the structure of the script, it was like you're watching TV at night, so there were interspersed television commercials, and he said, like, do the television commercials and the sketches that work at your show, and let's make that movie. So then they went off and wrote the script. Hey, now here's this is my it's a very tangential connection to it. But I worked as a projectionist in the nineties for a company called Landmark Theaters right, which up until nineteen ninety was owned by a guy named Kim Jorgensen.

Kim Jorgenson got involved. I don't know who he knew of that group, but they had made a ten minute promotional film to get the movie made. He started showing it at his theaters and people were like losing their minds for it. And then he put them in touch with Sala Hassanin who would eventually make Creep Show produced Creep Show, and he gave them half a million dollars. And here is Kentucky Friedburby.

There's a brief history of the murvie. I know way too much about this movie. I'm too obsessed with all of the players, the scum zes Chris would say, definitely, the Zazz boys. Well, and the thing, I mean, the thing ultimately becomes about Landis is Yes, he does go on to make comedies. I mean again, you know, Animal House, Blues Brothers, stuff like that.

But you know, this is again it feels it's a John Landis movie through and through. But the Zazz stuff is there in a way that is in a way that is again, when it works, it works. But just like in the other things that I've seen of their's, when it doesn't work, it really does like it, it just becomes so I don't know, Mike White of Detroit, Michigan might disagree, but the I mean, I get where, I get what they were going for, but yikes, movie, the whole Detroit thing. It's like I thought it was funny. It's not that it's not funny, it's it's it's funny, it's it's it's it becomes of a thing that they end up doing that ends up not being funny, and you can kind of see like this is the one time where it kind it works, but then they start doing this thing where it kind of gets more and more conservativey and kind of like right wingy and talking about David Zucker becoming right wing No have you Naked Gun one, two and three, there's a fair amount of racism.

Yeah, yep, oh yeah, oh yeah, big time. Unlike the thing is like I didn't really none of us remembered it when we were when but when we watched them, we were like, man like at the end of Naked Gun Too, there's this whole like, there's this whole thing. It's kind of like anti Hispanic and I don't know, it's it's all it's again, it's it's not like really out front and the open, but it is kind of this weird undertone. And then obviously, yeah, like we mentioned, he kind of goes on to do rather right wing conservative stuff. But the Detroit thing is like the funny version of it.

But then they kind of the repeating of these things becomes just like, oh god, guys, wait, are we talking about their repeting of them in this or like in other movies. No, I'm saying here it works, but in other things they do this exact same thing, and it really does at work. And I was shocked to see at work. Here is what I'm saying. Okay, I guess it.

Three or they're doing a War of the World's parody and there's a scene War of the World's for newscaster shows Tom Cruise, the devastation going on. They got footage of it, and so they parody that moment and she says, look, here's Detroit and it's Detroit on Friar and she goes and now here's Detroit after the attack, and it's just an alien like walking through the France to still just still the jug It took twenty years to get there, thirty years to get there. But I don't know, that was hell of a hell of a pair offf for that joke. I mean, we kind of we kind of mentioned this last time, but they're they're more recent stuff again, Take it however you will. Your feelings on Scary Movie one through five, But they're pretty consistent.

I feel like with the level of comedy that they put out for you know, twenty years, starting with this and then I would say ending around Scary Movie three, which is two thousand and three. I mean, that's, in my opinion, the last great thing any one of them made together or separately. I mean they even worked on, you know, David Zucker worked on Basketball, which is a really good live action movie that just happens to have Matt Stone and Trey Parker. I will vou just I would go to bath. I think Basketball is a funnier movie than South Park.

I would agree with that. Yeah, Basketball, Basketball is I think Basketball may be the best thing that they've done other than the Book of Mormon. And I know people love South Park, but like Basketball is just it's such a perfect parody of those kind of movies that I don't think there's another parody that is as good as base It's so let's see, now you got now you want, you got me want to talk about basketball? We need Sacovac, but baseball rules. And you know, I hear your mom's going out with Squeen, but it all but I mean it all, it all starts here.

I mean, and even in basketball, they do have like the not the commercials, but they do have some like the inner am I think in basketball right? Yeah no, because they have like Robert stat pop up and then they have like the like when anibal like when road kill attacks or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And hey, you know what, I do appreciate a gag that continues through the movie because the first segment of this where the announcer says, you know, they pissed in the popcorn? Uh that that does pay off. Then in the in the see You Next Wednesday segment, right when he eats the popcorn and then like looks at it and throws it, is that that's it's okay?

Yeah, yeah. I appreciated that because I was like, okay, I was like, that's you know, I didn't catch it the first Yeah, what happened? Did everybody freeze? I think you prec to us and then and then I just waited because I didn't know if you said something stopped. Yeah, am I here?

Now you're here? Now you're here now excellent suave and debon it. I don't know that we got we got we got frozen. By the technology, frozen, frozen by the zuckm that we're gonna that's that, it's a zuckms become a word just for anything. You did you hear what happened?

She took her away? Oh my gosh. Okay. First of all, I love the like franaticness, especially like in the non narrative part of just like how we get like sichess of every like that was some things that It's been a few years since I've watched that. I've seen it a few times, but never for like a you know, writing or podcast it like, I mean, we even get like a Jacque Cousteau type, like with the interview, Yeah and that, Yeah, did you get recognize the guy playing the Jacques custauros Verry fucking dn't.

Yeah, Barry did on Shining Zone. I love him so much. I mean, he's Pontius Pilot brought it than the I believe the original stage versions Christ Superstar, but of course the movie too. He's in Shock Treatment, the Rocky Horror not a sequel, not a prequel, but equal. He can do anything.

I love Barry Dennon and he's hilarious here, you know, talking about how you know he loves you know, he lives the unknown. He loves the unknown. He is the unknown. I love like us, like where are you living now? That does unknown?

Just the the surrealism were like the boom Mic at one point is like shavings and like Mike also has a lighter at the end of it at one point, which is which I mean that gag never that gag is just like will never get old. Anything with the boom Mic and something coming out of it is just fucking common. Particular has a life. I mean, you know, I don't think there's anyone attached to it. I think that thing is just animate drinking its water every time.

Oh god, And there's so many great trailer but what what are like your guy's favorite trail period that we have in this because there's some good ones. Cleopatra Schwartz. Of course, it's just fucking so spot on. It's one of the four pieces they filmed to get the movie made. Oh oh, I didn't know.

Yeah, the four segments that they shot were Cleopatra Schwartz, the final segment with the newscasters watching the couple, the thing with them watching the couple. I feel like I had seen that somewhere else before and and and when I mean again, like when I saw it in this it was like, okay, like this this is this is like the the perfect distillation of a lot of their comedy style. It's subversive on top of just like what we're seeing is funny, but then they have to subvert it by it being again like they're able to see them, but I guess they can see them too, And it's like that that level I don't know, that level of back and forth I think is what makes Zucker Abram Sucker so funny is they take the joke and they don't just let it sit there.

They continue to go and it's what three I think they repeat things three or four times is what they're kind of right. They repeat. They often repeat jokes like three or four times. They will ring everything out of a joke. But I think, well, I'm not taking it a bad way like they like in like most of the time it works.

The joke is funny, and you can hit it a couple of times that you need to hit it a few times, but then you need to know when to stop. Yeahs, yeah, the you know the standout for so Cleopatra, Shortz and if that was a real movie, I would one hundred and twenty percent watch and own the blue ray of it. But now Catless school Girls in Trouble for Me is like that was. I remember that. That's always That was even my favorite when I first saw it, and not just because there's a lot of boobs, but and Ushi to Guard is like the shower who Ushi to guard for us?

Like cultpeniac people. I mean, amazing, she's in somebody stuff, but she's was famously probably a Rustmeer's uh supervics, and she's Ushi. Bushi is queen. We love Ushi. But I also think that Stephen Bishop's greatest moment ever is it?

Do you know which one Stephen Bishop is in Catholic school Girls? Chris, show me your nuts, buddy, Yeah, that's what I assumed. Yeah, is that freak your less? The joke cannot go at all where I thought it would. It went in a much better direction.

Has a girl like throwing a whipped cream piet on a horse's aunt subpersion. But you know what tricked me out though, and I know this till work on For this episode, the where they're all chained up in the dungeon and they've got like a little person clip down. It's literally a crazed clown. His IMDb character name, it's feel Yes, Millard, you knew Felix Seal cousin. It isn't.

This fucking isn't a recent episode of Night Gallery. We did, and I actually referenced the movie here. Oh yeah, Baby New Year, and he's totally diveen, like a Ralphus from Bloodsucking Freaks here. Yes, yes, good old Ralphus. Ever, everybody loves Everybody loves Ralphus.

Everybody's got a ralph. I appreciated the h I appreciated that that's Armageddon trailer only because it has George Lasenby and there is not enough George Lasonby, and for whatever reason, again, they don't have him do his Australian accent, which I think is the funniest part. You can hear him like covering it up really poorly. But he has, like George Lasonby as the architect. This shit just starts falling on him.

I just it reminded me of David Warner getting shit thrown at him in Tails from the Crypt. It's like this actor, this actor just sitting here having shit thrown in his entity, because there's that shot that they keep repeating of them talking having this insane back and forth, and shit just starts getting closer and closer to them, and I was like, man, one of them is gonna get clocked by something and they're gonna lead that footage and I know it's coming. Lason be apparently drunk for the entire dude of course, was like, my question was sober when he was never te young to die? No, and he gets murdered by he was he sober for that? I wouldn't be.

I'd be drunk on life in here. Sorry. It also has Donald Sutherland, which likes the clumsy waiter. Well, they were Land the City, were on Kelly's Heroes together then was a stunt man on the film kelling Donald cuthone there. Yeah, yeah, Well that's where he got the idea from Martha wereld in London because they were shooting in Romania and said like he was with some like burly soldier type and they were going through the through the woods and they saw bunch of gypsies burying one of their own, but in a really elaborate way, and he was like, look at them, they're idiots.

They think that the dead are going to come back, and Landis was like, what if the tad did come back? And thus we got Amery grow up in London. Who hasn't who hasn't had that in Romania while shooting Kelly's exact as far as like, you know, because we just did grooved, did you guys, especially in the context of watching did an he did either one of you do like the whole comparison brain a little bit of like like what works here versus what didn't groove to Coco the show or whatever the clown was. Yeah, I mean there are definite parallels here because they do. I mean, there are commercial parodies and industrial film sort of parody than uh, you know, whatever that's on television, although the Groove Tube is more specifically television oriented, and contact ends up being kind of a whatever affair.

But before I compare contrast, I do want to say, evidently, in nineteen seventy so, Zucker, Abrams, and Zuccer are in Wisconsin. Abrams has already graduated, with the Zucker brothers are still in school. One of the Sucker brothers, on a weekend, goes to Chicago, where he sees a touring production of cinema one Ken Shapiro's New York comedy True and goes back and tells his his his compatriots, Hey, there's this format. It's a sketch comedy and they do video pieces in between. Let's do that, And so they formed Kentucky Fried there.

So there's a good comparison with The Groove There. Oh, I love that. I've actually I read a similar article but said that exceper much what you just said, except he added, I saw something that these guys did, and we should do it, except we'll make you funny. That feels unnecessary. I'm being made I'm being but I mean again, I mean to be fair though, to be fair, to be fair, we're talking about Zucker Zucker Abram Zucker's that exists past.

Like again, Ken Shapiro did a couple of things, but it was this, you know, the Groove Tube and Modern Problem, a movie that has been critique to me as the most unfunny thing that Chevy Chase has been in, which feels like a fucking nightmare. So I don't know, like Zucker Abram Zucker, they persisted, so maybe they are funnier. I just I don't know. I think they had a more distinct vision, and they had less limitters on theirselves. I think if Ken Shapiro hadn't just done a TV thing and forced himself to be super specific, I think the Groove Tube might have worked about as well as Kentucky Fried Movie did if he had taken the bumper lanes off of his bowling alley and actually given himself the opportunity to not just be like, oh, it's just TV stuff.

Like you just mentioned, The Kentucky Fried Movie works because it's not just TV stuff. It's kind of every it's all the video media of the time being reference, not just the TV. Well, Kentucky Fried Movie is effectively the Zucker Brothers and Abram's cinematic version of Cinema one, and Groove Tube is Ken shapiro cinematic version of cinema on right, right, right. But they went west and found themselves a fucking like beast of a filmmaker, And even if their material had been less than Shapiro, they would have succeeded on the on the slickness of Landis, and Landis is no slouch comedically either, Like a lot of the sacs that the pacing and the editing of this movie, it's all him. So I can't help foot compare the movies just on the sort of surface level, superficial level.

It's always better to have a group working. I think, you know, I think we mentioned that about Groove Tube specifically, like it is very it's a singular film, and in that it's Ken Shapiro, whereas the MIDI of testing the stuff out and then had a further sort of voice like lording over it all, going like why there wasn't going to work in this bill? And I'll put in what I think it is funny in what's not? So I do think, you know, the one thing that I think worked better in Groove Tube as far as commercial parodies, because they do a very similar beer ads. I thank the Groove Tube.

It was like just celebrating all of the worst violent behavior that beer drinkers do, and here it's just sort of a wouldn't it be funny if Harry Krishna's were just like everybody else and acting like dullards And the other one is way funny, way more biting and sterrifyn has a point to it, as opposed to just sort of a goof. I honestly rewatched that Willard ad a couple of times, and I was like, I'm not missing a joke here. Nope, I'm not missing the joke because there isn't one. It's Harry Krishna's drinking beer. I guess that's funny, like question mark.

Like again, I think of the next time Zucker Abram Zucker would use Harry Krishna's is fucking airplane for Robert stack Is beating the shit out of them? So I think the Harry Krishnas were an easy target for people of a certain comedic ilk at a certain time. I mean, they were clearly all over Los Angeles and people felt a certain way about them at LAX. So that's why they were an airplane and they're here because, Yeah, I guess is it funny for Harry Christmas to drink beer like the Group two? Bad's funny because everybody's just beating the ship out.

That's funny. That will never not be Yeah. I think if we were a little bit closer to nineteen seventy seven, the Harry Christian jake would have increased it in hilarity, maybe because you would have had some experience. I remember as a kid seeing Harry Christia's still all the time handing out flowers. So this was not so without the realm of possibility.

But yeah, I had Harry Christna give me something in Columbia, Missouri when I was in college, Like they're still hanging around, like you know, I just yeah, like I was like, why are we making fun of them? They seem way nice serving like various like I don't know, like Southern Baptists that will hand out bibles at public schools. Yeah, now, which that shit has happened. That mean that's fucking awesome, you know, so who can't we I gotta love that. Yeah, I know, it's just again like there's that.

I also just like it's weird to me because again I go back to like za Z's stuff later on or at least one of them gets a little weird and like kind of racy, and it's like okay, like Harry christianas I guess, I was waiting for the gag. I was waiting for the punchline, and that one is just like there's no pun there. They're drinking beer and they're horny, they're grabbing ass. That should one thing. I like.

That surprised me because I try not to think about how like which one of them ended up being so like super conservative and working with Kelsey Grammer, which I try to like not think about that because it may sad, but I do like as kind of a comparison that like you have sort of like the conservative talk show host and he's clearly kind of the butt of the jerks, like the woman, like the liberal woman he's debating, Sheila is so bad. It's totally cussin and give him the finger. I love Sheila, that's literally my note. I love. But it's also good proof.

I think sometimes that's why it's good for people to watch. There's a lot of reasons that are good to watch older films. But you know, it's like I feel like I've run into people down that think like super conservative Fox News things like originated with Fox. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no no, this shit goes banned at the proof. I mean, if if Stefing is showing up in a parent, you know that it's you know, permanence or firm stature and cultures, you know, pretty obvious.

Yeah, that conservative speech that he give you could pluck it out and strap it into any pundit's mouth, right, now, and it would like everything exactly what they've always been saying forever and ever, and particularly then in nineteen seventy seven, where you would never do this on television. Boy, wouldn't it have been great had somebody just said enough of your horse shit, blow it out your ass. I love her. I love I'm like, you know what, maybe maybe we, like I had to get to let it go. But I'm like, maybe things would have been it a little bit better if more like democrats have been just like, you know, instead of trying to compromise, just be like, you know what, Yeah, eat the bird, Okay, all right.

People always say they'll go down to their level. I mean, like, all right, sure, but but that's why we're here. He didn't, I will say, speaking of politics. Uh. One of the segments that I really appreciate it, and I feel like somebody all might know which one.

I'm going to say, Scott Free, I mean, I mean a joke that has persisted since this movie came out. Scott Free is one of the other segments filmed for the for the ten minute reel to get the movie made, and it is, without a doubt, the best joke in the movie. Perfect and accurate. Oh my god, Like if we were literally talking about it before recording, without even without even me remembering in a lot of ways that we were going to end up talking about it again, It's yeah, it's a master work. You could show that anywhere anytime.

It's very, very funny and in seventy seven, deeply disturbing for the American people that had happened fifteen years beforehand, that's them. I mean, that's what makes the joke so fucked up then. But again, that's what makes it so presient now, is that it that has persisted. I'm not saying there aren't things in this that haven't persisted as well, but in terms of visibility to our culture, even right now today, you say JFK and I don't know what people think about other than him dying unfortunate. They might be thinking about the token representative of FK hair, which is a tiny plastic flags draped coffin, or you know, you could play us that pieced or the sniper rifle.

My favorite is at the end where it's like spin does see if the public believes you are not It's like, oh my fucking god, Oh somebody bought Life magazine and has published the photographs out of order. It's savage, it is the it is just like it's such a biting joke and they never let up. It just it keeps going and building and building and building. I don't know again, it is the most it's pretty fucked up, but I don't know. I think it's the I for Me, like you mentioned by THEE for Me, it is my favorite bit of the entire The only thing missing is Belzer.

Yeah yeah, yeah, the bells, the balls. I do love the cast. We get here, and in fact, we get one of my favorite Rick Baker gorilla, the best Rick Baker of all. Rick Baker gorilla. Oh my god, I mean this is I mean fred like and this is pre Tania's Island, which also had Rick Baker gorilla.

What's that? And I know I'm malone because I haven't seen it. Did the Rick Baker gorilla originate Rischlock? Because I haven't seen Schlock. That is a Rick Baker gorilla.

The Rick Baker gorilla we get here is his audition to portray King Kong. So he made that specifically to try and get the King Kong gig from Dino de Laurentist and landist was like, well, just let's put you in this movie, Like what a stroke of fucking luck because it is the best looking rilla suit up until like he really starts sharing it with you know, like gorillas in the Mist and stuff like that, Like it's it's it. Look, it's Rick Baker in the costume, who is a fantastic mimic of primate characteristics. So it's it's a like the budget of the movie should be an extra million dollars based on that suit. I would think it's amazing.

That's so and that when he just starts going to la he's throwing with people, right, clothing a pa, that's John Lea. Yeah, he oversells that toss. There's a little just a tad, just a little bit. He's like saw Michael spite the whole coroked? Am I right?

Yeah? You just start He's just starts flipping and flopping all over the place. But hey, it's a monkey. It's a big monkey. And who doesn't love a gorilla?

Right, angry and filing gorilla breaks to the glass of that he's given his motivation. Isn't that he's just another crazy gorilla. It's like he's embarrassed that they won't stop talking about his infantence. That's my favorite's favorite tend fucking gorilla. He's just had, he's heard it one thing.

His fragile, his fragile masculinity. I will say, as much as I love Scott Free, I think my my second favorite bit in the entire movie is feel around Theater, only because it's a four minute, fifty two second gag that works, and then it exists solely to get to the gag at the end, which I mean it is. It is one of the funnier kind of mugging moments of the entire movie where oh yeah, by the way, deep throats showing next. But I don't know the voice act. Man, Like, the more I watched that, when the voice act is what cracks me have.

Vio was especially like, and I don't know if this is true. I am dB let's sit as Tina Louisa believe is holy shack because this is just like I said, it's a lipstick on your color, like it's like a a nutciate is the bail voice check even there? I know he does a few voices in it, but I don't know if he's a particular voice of that guy I'm shipping there. I don't know if it is. I noticed his name was in the credits too, and I was like, oh my god, Shadow Stevens.

But yeah, like I'm shipping Shadows Stevens and Tomies And it's just like the night I puts out the night? Yes, does he say the thing? I've never been a too, I've never been afraid to still my own one. I'm like, oh my god, where's that movie? I would totally want to watch this like hot mess couple.

Now it's just like it's like bottled it hard on. I just really appreciated the actor that he got to be in that scene because he's so expressive with his eyes, like gud I have the ticket for the movie. It's like he has this like really strange like affectation. I have no idea how to do his affectation, but like his affectation goes with his face. Let's just put it that.

Jeff Maxwell, he was a groundling, so that's something local talent that they pulled. And he is great in that, not only during the sequence, but his twice interaction with women where he's just so timid and he just wants to say literally anything but can't before he goes in to feel around. He's hilarious. Yeah. I love how both girls are just like so like whatever create, Yeah, here's your ticket very taxi.

Yeah, oh my gosh. Now and the feeling round Yea, it's funny because that's something. Yeah, because I was thinking about the whole like discussion out like you know, does older things that have older reference that still weren't Yeah, I mean we live in the age of streaming, but that that sequence is still funny. Like those gags were funny. It doesn't matter.

Plus, we never actually had I guess the closest proxy like the William Castle stuff. But I thought you were lamenting the fact that we didn't have. I am lamenting the fact we didn't have Are you kidding? Ah, Like Censorama and you know, all these sort of innovations, we're gonna be tingler to shake the theater and yeah with the tingle even the big studios during like the disaster era started getting into it. Where where all these gimmicks.

So it's it's it's perfectly of a piece at the time, but it now reminds me of we have these like four D theaters like d Box or something like that have you ever Have you ever gone to one of these? No, because I don't. I couldn't imagine sitting in a seat for three hours, Like for maybe ten minutes, sure, but not for three fucking hours. I feel like it would get older. I feel like it would get old about the length at a time it takes to ride in one of those rides at Universal Studios in Boston, and I wanted to see a movie and there was only one showing that day of the movie Don't Breathe, And it was in one of these theaters, and uh, sitting there watching the movie and the the opening shot is a slow zoom in from very very far away of this Detroit neighborhood, and my seat just started like leaning forward and forward and forward, Like the more they zoomed in, the more forward I was leaning at Like that was just start of it.

But like at one point, there's a fire on screen, like a wave of smoke or rolled across the floor. I was like, what a gun went off? And like that there's a strobe light went off in the theater. It was very unusual. I wasn't half expecting you to say when they when there was a gun somebody shot a gunning.

Some bullets just started whizzing past us, like Indiana Jones. And he didn't say, he didn't say the theater was in Detroit. Oh my god. From the movie to the podcast, folks, I feel surer. I love an Arkansas listen.

Any any state can dunk on dunk gun me part. I'm allowed to. That's true. I mean it's I feel like making jokes about Detroit in twenty twenty three's. There are other cities to make jokes about round all of them.

Look at this fucking country with the shitty gun laws. You can make any any any part and just lost. I don't care. I think I do. I'm bringing I'm bringing the new listeners in noise Junkie's true.

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I wanted to ask y'all how you feel about the segment Dangerous Seeks Cramer Dangerous Seek Okay, television thrill seekers, the evil kineval types that were proliferating and dominating the news at the time. Yeah, it listen. The joke could be about any ethnicity. It could it. It's more a parody of these idiots who you know, like, yes, you went hang gliding, Okay, good, but if you want to do something truly dangerous, try this.

It reminds, you know, it reminds me of Chris. We've discussed modern haunted houses, haunted attractions where you sign a waiver and they come and slap you and stuff, like people are really into that, Like that's what That's what it takes to get people to feel a modicum of fear anymore. And I always made the argument that you should, if you really want to do that, like go empty your bank account and then take a cab ride to the worst section of your town and have them drop you off without your phone and then walk home like you get the same thing. And I think that's playing a bit on this and this, but you know it doesn't excuse the use of the N word, doesn't. I wasn't taking issue with the use of the N word.

I mean, I mean, look, you're going to use it for a comedian. If this is the use of it in a comedic sense, like okay, I can understand your justification and what you're and what you're getting. Uh, it was the segment I was not expecting. Let's just put it that way. Uh, wow, it was.

It was. I think it was the most transgressive and subversive part of the entire movie at once. But I think that's okay. I think that I think that there needed to be something like this in the movie to really say like we're we're here, and we're fucking pushing the envelope, because like I mean, Ken Shapiro tried, but I think this landed more if you're trying to actually push and be transgressive using that word in your movie full our word like f full hard are Like, wow, okay, it's pretty goddamn transgressive if you ask. You know, this is a movie that does begin with the collection of hair combs from Italy to help power our natural resources.

So like, let's just say that they're they're willing to spread around the transgressive and u and sometimes less than palatable material. I mean, is that kind of humor really transgressive? There? For the like, I don't, I don't know, Like when I think of transgressive humor, I think of like pink flaming. It's like, you know, like which I was one of my favorite comment time.

But it's like, I mean, I think they're both transgressive, right, I wouldn't show this movie on television, So yeah, I think it's transgressive. But you could say the N word in television seventies because that's not that whole sketch where wasn't it Robert Klein and was No, you're talking about Chevy Chase and Richard prit Yes, yes, race again. Yeah, great sketch. Yea, yeah, yeah, that's it's hilarious. Yeah, I don't know, like I think it transgressive.

I think it's like, oh, I don't know, I just don't. I guess I was saying more now it's it's transgressive. Yeah, yeah. Agree. In the seventies, sure, I mean you're you're I would say, you make the you make the case for them.

I mean yeah, because again like Barney Miller got I mean, Barney Miller gets close and you know there. I mean there are shows that were you said, they were saying, it's so how transgressive is it? I mean it also, I mean the fact that, like so much of American humor is not necessarily racist junkes, but ethic vaudeville. I mean that whole you know, were there's certain jokes that are that probably some of them would be viewed racist. Now some of them are raised.

But then there are others that are racial and they're ethnic base, but they're not really hates. Just like you know, don't say the N word in Harlem, Like you know, you'd hear that phrase all the back. Yeah, it doesn't this this sequence doesn't it just become a major plot point. And die Hard with a vengeance John McClain and a Placard stand out in Harlem. I've never seen that.

Yeah, I mean I actually had a friend mentioned that to me like last week or the week before. He's like, isn't that weird? And die Hard three and I was like, I remember, So I went back and watched it. I was like, holy shit, Yeah, I mean they kind of trade in that. There was a third die Hard movie, there was a fourth and a fifth Diehard that's so weird.

Oh my god. The second second, the second one is pretty good. Like the second opens with Bill Sadler's ad, Oh I love I love sad I love William Sapp. I don't know if I was asked. I mean his full on in the buff in the beginning of that is he is he hot dogging it?

Uh no, it's just it's just rear nudity. It's not the full frontal. I foo. That's why. That's just why I'll ever get art fright, because I say things like was he hot dog?

It was? Did he have the sucking it? Big zuck? Little zuck zucks that right on train? So you bought I'm on.

You mentioned the opening with the thing with the Italian combs, which is I mean, look, I mean it is from one Italian too. Well, they're not Italian, but hey, it is funny. They're not wrong. It is funny. It's a low hanging fruit, but it's funny.

They could have made a joke about tires. What noise does the tire make? I'm not gonna sit well could yeah, But you know they're also collecting from you know, the teenagers faces and burn so fried food chosen is a box of Kentucky fried chicken and it's just part also like Beaumont, Texas, where they're just farting constantly because they eat all they eat is beans. Beans. Yeah, I think for me, so I mentioned it kind of at the opening a fistful of yen.

I think it works. It works off and on, if that makes sense, Like there are parts of it that work, they're parts of it that don't. And I understand that the parts that work and the parts that don't are so sandwiched together that they're inextricably linked. Because it is so narratively based, you can't get away from it. It's thirty one minute.

So yes, I love it, or fi full of yan what works and what doesn't work. It's so scatter shot. It is the actual prototype of what everything that that they're gonna sort of perfect later on, But in my mind it's actually the perfect thing. It's the perfect parody. It is a beat for beat remake of one of my favorite films of all time.

And to Enter the Dragon like it's basically Enter the Dragon without John Saxon and black Belt Jones Jim Jim Kelly. Uh, it works on that level. It works. The action works. John Landish directs it really fantastically.

Most of this movie is shot in a fucking restaurant. That's a nice restaurant, Like, oh my god, that's crazy, and you know what. Like to me, it is, as I said, like a total parody of that film, whereas Airplane is just a remake of Zero throw Out. I mean, there are a whole swamps of dialogue that they left intact because it was so ridiculous to begin with. This is a parody of Enter the Dragon.

So uh, anyway, I'm sure you have problems with it. I have problems with the two maybe a little bit. This one makes me laugh beginning to end every time. All of my favorite jokes other than Scott Free, which is just a work of art, I can be found here and fistful of Yen. I actually think most of my issues lie with and again it's just the the the affectation that Evan C.

Kim is used. Just for me, it gets a little old and consistency of parodying mister Bruce Lee. It's just that like the Elmer Fudd thing, like the you know, I don't know, like it's just it's a little much. And that's that's really it like I mean again, like where it ends up, and the final gag of the segment is so fucking stupid. Damn the best No, No, you don't understand.

It's so stupid in the best fucking way that they just say, Okay, you know what, We've pushed ourselves into a corner. What do we do here? It was just fucking Wizard of Oz because we took the he melt with water gag and we just went the furthest we could with it. And you know what, in terms of that, it's worth the thirty minutes to get to that, because I was laughing out loud sitting here watching it the three times I watched it. Every time it came to that point where he's like, oh, he just clicks his heels and then he's wearing that ridiculous fucking wig.

Yeah, that joke lands, and it's worth the thirty minutes for me. The star is Box. He is so master, Yes, because he is so good. He is so fucking good, like his comedic timing, his hair like that quaff is tight. Hey, that is a great quaf that even during the Wizard of Boss part, he says something nice and then all of a sudden, he be quick, quick, sick, quick, sod of his like fires the book that he like like took sit inro Quick in the Wall.

I love it. And I have to say when I was kid, this was favorite, this in courtroom, But as I watched it as I've gotten older, like a fistful yen is maybe my favorite thing in this Like I love it and and yeah, I've got it, you said my brain, Like, oh, but it's it's a music like the parody is good even to like the kind of music that you would hear it or hearing this kind of effect and it parts of an almost selling more gars which makes me just love it even more. Like it's it's so spot on, like you can tell like yeah again people that know this genre love it. It's not just somebody you know, smugging it up. It's good.

That's the other thing about parody for me is most of the time when you're doing like with Airplane, I mean Airplane is almost too good of it. It's a good disaster movie in and of itself. It's not just a good parody. It also happens a parody of disaster in and of itself is a pretty decent disaster, because again it cops a lot from Zero Hour. But like Scary Movie is a pretty good comedy horror movie too, So it's Scary MOVI two, and I mean Scary Movie three is less a horror comedy, but that's the thing.

I mean, even like Naked Gun, like Naked Gun is a pretty good like comedy police procedural, but it's also a parody of Curd And that's why for me, I mean, I give a lot of the issues that I had with a fistful Yan. It's just like, ultimately, even in those parody movies, like a lot of those jokes don't necessarily land there. So it's no different that this se segment is essentially a microcosm of itself because like you mentioned already, Father, Mom, this is where all the other things, including Airplane come from, is their ability to handle this material in the way that they jam pack it full of all kinds of different jokes, just like they would end up doing an airplane and Naked Gun and everything.

You'll notice that when they don't have a film to sort of base it on, you get Top Secret, which I love. It has a lot of great gags in it, but it does not hang Together as well as Airplane or this movie or The Naked Gun. T I actually do think I enjoyed this more than I enjoyed tops. I would agree, you know, I would not have agreed with you maybe a couple of years ago, but I watched Top Secret again recently, and like now, I feel it does suffer from not having a framework. It's just sort of a bunch of ideas thrown together and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

But if you're giving us one hundred jokes a minute, then then it's going to be great. But if you know, you slow it all down, then we need a little bit more. It's Elvis movies and it's spy movies, and it's like it's like, no, you don't need to have like eight million things jammed and pick like one one is hard enough. I mean a fistful of yen, just like Naked Gun and Airplane like that's it feels really hard to navigate in a minute and a half, like Cleopatri Schwartz Let Alone thirty one and the Courtroom, which we haven't we've kind of mentioned, you know in passing. I think courtroom works really well too.

I think Courtroom is very funny and a more of a parody of things that I have a frame of reference for, like a Perrymaid. Like that's maybe the other thing. Again, I've seen some Bruce Lee stuff, but I haven't seen everything. I wasn't holding that against of Yen, but it definitely contributed to my enjoyment of Courtroom more because I knew some of the gags that they were already going to do and kind of what where that was going already, so I could see maybe some of those things off in the distance, and they did some of them, and I, you know, I think Courtroom is pretty good and I like that it has a breakup of an ad and do I think that even though it's pretty quick, I think that does help. I like Courtroom quite a bit, just because Jerry Sucker is doing a hilarious version of the Beaver next to next to the actual Wally Tony Daw.

Oh my god, that his I didn't realize that with Sucker. I kept being like, who is the guy Beaver? Because he's good like it? Maybe it's even better than as like God, Actually that's hard to say. Can John Candy as the guard up Beaver on SETV?

It's good too? This one's better of Tony Dawn sitting next to him and bickering with him in a holy manner. Oh my god. But we also get my little favorite actor from Airplane, Stephen Stucker as the stenographer, and he like at one point, and I mean he's not even really a funk good point, but just you'll see him in background just like Mimi like he has. It's like so rant.

He's a level of mania that that. Unfortunately and I was cut down too quickly, but always great. The same was part of their original Kentucky Fried Theater apparently part of the part of the troops. So yeah, oh god. Yeah.

Also apparently Forrest Jay Ackron is somewhere that I don't know if I spotted him though, there's a guy, an older guy that baby couldn't happen. Yeah, that's definitely for for Reacreman of the Acreman, mister fast Land himself. Yeah, mister could possibly tie conspiracy involving Jack Parson the Church of Scientopology as well, but that's another episode. That's another episode of another show entirely that come Jack, Come on, Jack Parson, And is that is that a? Is that John?

I know it says it an IMDb John CASSISI is in the Argon Oil Volunteered thing at the beginning, and he is he one of those kids. I couldn't it didn't look like you, but I you know, bugs ye Malone's own. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't. I didn't recognize him, but that would be interesting.

I'll have to now really watch it again. Yeah, because I mean Bugs Ye Malone came out in seventies six and he I don't know, he's such a distinct looking cat. I just put it that way. Would be Los Angelos when he made that movie Fox with Jodie Foster and that that ilk bug I mean bugs. But Stephen Stucker, like I guess that was his thing, was that his thing was just this because like I've only seen him in this an airplane, Like this is his one thing.

It's just like, well that do that, which is great. I mean it's hilarious. I mean I love him. Who the fuck doesn't love him? An airplane?

Me, John big Tree, He's fucking hilarious. But this is like his thing right clearly? Oh yeah, I want more of it, obviously, Like yeah, the non sequitors are fucking great. Like I'm here for like a hat but approach. Oh my god, yeah he could god he yeah, he's I mean he he steals the show anytime he's on screen in fucking air and here, I mean here, it's here.

It's a little bit more rained in, but I'm glad they were just like, man, he's really funny. Just let this guy do his thing, and we have every time. Every time they cut back to the control tower and airplane, he does something like it's it's constant. So man is a treasure. Yeah, he speaking of treasure.

Can we talk about Big Jim Slade for a minute. Currying character here? Oh my god, this I love the sex. I mean, and not just because Jack Baker, the late great Jack Yo six downy on Happy Days, he was briefly in love it first by we talked about Samrus on this show. We missed you, Chris there yea let's switch Blade?

Yes he was, Yeah, that was That movie was if somebody wants to see a racist seven We watched the first around the same. That's the god that's like night and Day as far as the intent humor, who yeah, and Jack Baker was kind of waste in that film, but it was cool to see. Of course he'd go on to up here and a number of like adult films, including New Wave hook He is hilarious in and that movie is hilarious. That movie also has is probably it's probably very problematic if you're sensitive. Yeah, don't.

Well it's called a wave hooker. But Jack Baker and a Secret Dear and the big they have big Jim slide bust in like they're cool even through the wall, and then just and it's a little and the skimpiest of skimpy my lord, oh my god. See you guys get the boobs, but at least the ladies get big jade. Right. They pulled big on the title for a reason.

A construction LPs, which used to be a big, big thing. I have a few in my collection, Are you serious? How to talk to your plants? I have had to disco dance, I have, I got this one other one I don't know. Yeah, so that's it's extra funny just because there were ads on television but worked this obviously, but like this is this is at least very pointed.

Oh I thought you meant you had ones that were like, you know, like like mood for seduction or something like that. How to perform kind of Lingus hosted by Uncle Milton Buru. Oh, how dare you Christ? You brought up the goul? That not the cool?

My favorite horror hars now the ghoulish hog legs spect himself of Uncle Milton Burrow. Gurlish hog leg Specter is a certified new sentence, folks. It's like the US God No no, but then but then also was The thing was like seventy LPs of like specific like to set up sensual scenarios. And my favorite was once heard an MP three of one. It was supposed to sell like a swinger's orgy, but it ended up really I don't like, Who's afraid of Virginia Wolf on Spanish Flop?

I don't know. If it was attentionally supposed to it would be funny, but it's like half of it was this couple r Curry and be like, you know, see how much more tighter she is than you? She's like hear George, you know, like it's hilarious. It's just like it's so foul. It's kind of like the movie Bat posts ever seen that?

Have you ever seen bat Pussey Crews? What did you just say on my podcasts that this is a superhero Phil that well, I didn't. I didn't think it was hosted by Richard Attenborough. Let's put it that one for David Attenborough or any Attenborough at all. Your tones with bat Pussy, No, this is how Bat's fuck.

No, No, it's like that at all. Now there's this there's this redneck couple that are attempting, attempting intercourse and failing. But they the title bat Pussy is actually like bat Woman's bat Pussy because she and she rides a hoppity hop like do you know like those bouncy balls that you sit on they were like popular seventy and they have like a handle, and she says, I can sense that somebody's making a fuck film in my holy Gotham City. They're real, they're the text other and like the couples spend most of it just arguing with each other like there's no fuck, partially because the guy can't get an erection, but also because they're like saying like it just turns into dada where it's like you know, you go, I come from from work, I come home from working to try to fix hopkins on a griddle.

I want pussy on the griddle. And he says stuff like that, you know, and then it's like she's like, Fucky, motherfucker, and he's like, Darling, I love you like. This is I'm not exaggerating. That's straight from this movie. It is.

You want surrealism, you want transgressive comet, bat Pussy, it's all blue. That is the best that you got us there to that joke, bat Pussy. Now on me, Darling, I love you like. It's like I mean, he keeps saying it. It's like this is probably my roller.

But that's why that's such a fan Oh no, it's so no. It's like there was a film writer, Larry Treadwell who called it John Waters Who's and that really is like that entice you must see about I just like the name. You'll love the movie. You'll love the movie for the movie. You know what else?

I love Kentucky. Tell me about Bill Bixby Father them alone, because all of a sudden, Bill Bixby has been showing up and stuff. We just keep seeing him at night Gallery say he's really good in both of them, and then he just shows up in here, which is one of the lamest segments in the entire movie. If that's the Sanhedron. It's like an eccentrin ad where we go to the lab where they're testing the headache medicine by giving people headaches just smashing bottles or banging their heads on walls and stuff.

San Heedron, of course was with the ruling body and like Israel, like at the time of Christ. So that's I think. I thought it was a funny, funny uh, like an I rhyme to eccetern there it. Bill Bixby's okay, you know good good of a beard, like his character from that episode of Oh yeah, the Last Rites of a Dead Druids the Monk. Yeah, and you know what another Blues Brothers connection Henry Gibson, isn't this and he's really funny.

Oh yeah, that's that's rough. That kid man, Oh my fucking god, I mean that, yeah, that of God, that ad is just it's really funny, but it's hard. Yeah, that's a fucking that's that might be. I mean that like a dead kid and just having a dead kid around is pretty fucked up. That's transgressive.

That yeah, that's trans Yeah, you're totally and you're totally right. That is that I don't And it's like so lovingly transgressive too. It's done with such love in its heart. There's no malice at all in that ad, which is the most fucked up it is. It is like all the charitable please you see on television.

It is very very friendly. Yeah, your dollar a day could help a dead child somewhere. Like again, it's like, yeah, it's it's so horrifying. But again, Henry Gibson sells it so perfect. That's why I mean, that's why it works.

I love he did not have one of my other favorite jokes, which is this is uh he is tough and ruthless and this is his driver. He is rough and toothless. I like folks, I like bolkus just breaking people's backs. That that that also would was not getting old, just him just murdering people. Just again, like the physical comedy in here is just they They they got it from the get They never really had to worry about understanding comedy.

They always here. It is right here. It's just some of the physical comedy is in fistful of yen is so good you know well, and mixed with some of the great lines because I love it. When doctor Klan, after decapitated, this guy says now take him to beat towards try so no, come back to a spown on the phone. Could I freeze?

Hello? Can you hear from wavering? We hear? Are you now? Uh?

Hi? Everybody? Sorry about that. Didn't mean to freeze. Are you cooking fish?

Know what's happening? That's from one of those it's from there, from the odors, Were you cooking fish? Yeah, that's a parody of you know, just like air freshener ads. There was a specific ad that they're they're parodying there where it's like, oh you had fish last night? Oh grow like get your shit together ads.

But uh I heard John land Is talking about that scene and it frustrated him because you know, there are other segments where you know, there's an elaborate setup to get to a joke. And he said, here, it's just a woman comes in and says Christ and a cow shit in here. He said, you would get roars of laughter in the theater. And he was like, it's just that easy. You just gotta do that.

Yeah, poop poop is funny, hooop is always funny, and boobies are funny too. I'm sure there were hoots and hollers in the zinc oxide bit when they go and in your bra too, and then all of a sudden, boobies are saggy, hardy, heart heart. I'm like, I'm sure John land is like this shit obviously. I think it got funny once shit just started going towh I love that that might be, that might be like just another like it says, it's almost as good as that Scott Free would because it's just you know what they what they're parroting is so universal. It's like, it's in this, it's in this.

It's like the it's your brain on drugs taken away too far. That's the fourth segment that that they filmed for the for the ten minute real that that sequence. And let me counter the thing about the like the boobs. As far as when I lived in Los Angeles for a while, I lived with the daughter of an Iranian filmmaker who used to work with John land Is quite a lot, so I always just pick his brain about John landon Holy Shit, what new Door Unlocked? Captain Fancy the fun Yeah, you've never told this part of the story before.

Where's the documentary on Father Malone? That I spent the knight of the La riots at his house. In fact, he and I I went with him. We went driving around the streets of Los Angeles. He and his friend with with pistols in their hands.

Anyway, that's not important. But what he kept telling me about John Landis was he said, John Landis is like a very very talented filmmaker, and he's a really funny guy. He's just the worst person to be around on the set. Not because he was some taskmaster, he's just like, he was really fucking annoying on set. Where's that going with the story.

Oh. The other thing about John Landis was, and he mentioned this a lot, he loves big boobs. Mike the big boobs. Oh you know he you should see a casting. It's just it's all big, big boobs.

And that's certainly on display here. And his first feature, did his son turn out to be a sex pass kind of Yeah, I mean, among among others other things, the unfortunately, as they would say, the talent did not. I mean, Max Landis has done wrestling, is not wrestling, which was like, as a wrestling fan and a rational felt very it felt very patrona because well, he seemed insufferable, didn't he. Yeah, I like that he's think so fucking smart, Like, we get it, dude, You're smart. The annoying like parts of John Landis, but John Landis has so much fucking talent to back it up that, like, you know, he could just go these three movies in a row.

Motherfucker, what have any of you done? Like I'm gonna be as annoying as I can be, can't. Yeah, well, And I mean and and seeing John Landis in interviews too, like mostly when he's talking about film, he's he's engaging, like I like seeing him. If he doesn't, you know, he doesn't come across like like there's some filmmakers that you see christ like like Tarantino or El Rod, Like I wouldn't room with those guys. But but I could listen to John Landis talking a late and you know his son we will focus because this movie is.

This movie's great and John Landis lost Big Bridge makes him, I don't know, not really that much different probably from a lot of street He's a student of the game, like John Landis clearly is like that is I mean, like you mentioned it in the opening, Father Key and and Heather Key's a student of the Key's a person who understands film, and he's not just I fell into this, Like he didn't just fall into this as a fucking career, and there are plenty of people that did. John Peters, I was fell into That's cool man, John John Lane. I don't know, like I always felt whenever I mean again, like I always felt whenever you like you said, Heather, when you listen to John land Is, like this guy gets filmmaking.

And look, American Werewolf in London pays homage to so many things that you have to love that thing to have gotten to the point where you're making this thing where it's like this doesn't happen in a vacu. And that's the magic of John Landis is he's kind of like who's your who's your favorite father? Moan Joe Dante, right, Like he's kind of like Joe Dante, and like they come up the same ilk where it's like you love filmmaking, oh yeah, and they carved out their own unique visions, uh, you know, based on based sometimes on the visions of others, but recontextualized and uh and made their own. An American Werewolf in London is a perfect movie. Absolutely on the thing in that movie but what could you possibly do to improve it?

Like it's nothing? And that script he wrote when he was like nineteen, when he when they gave him their script for Kentucky Fried Airplane, he said, no, put it in a format like this and gave them American Werewolf in London, like this is what a screenplay is supposed to be. Again, John Landis's involvement in this I think is well for me. I mean, again, Ken, I don't want to drag Ken Shapiro, but if Ken Shapiro had had John Landis, we might be having a different conversation about the Groove. Yeah, I feel bad.

I feel I felt bad for being I don't feel I mean, I don't feel one hundred subjective, Like I don't don't feel bad about being subjective about comedy or horror, like those things are so subjective. I know. I feel bad because I I adore my brother, care, our friend from the Lone are human. I respect and love fears as a pier, as a person, as a friend. But to it, I feel like if I was an asshole about the Coco to you, I apologize.

I don't apologize feeling the way I feel because no one should. No, no, way, and you know what, like you stack these two movies against so that there's just no question, like that the best best of the Groove Tube does not match up with the worst of this movie. Like these guys, these guys are just operating on a different level, these three fellows, you know, and then Landis on top of it. I do know that if Landis had been with Ken Shapiro, that not only visually, would it have been striking and we would more people would know about the movie just on that level. But Landis has a very definite good comedic editing eye, you know, you know, would dan akright gave him a script the signe of like a thousand pages for The Blues Brother.

He kept the fur movie and like just at the script stage, like as a joke, he gave it to him sandwiched in between the like the hollowed out page is of a yellow page, here's the scrap. So I think he definitely could have benefited Ken Shapiro for like, like you know that The Dealers would have been seven mena and very fast and very funny if John Landis had been at the Helm right, So I totally believe that and John Landis would have had a hand somewhat in the script or at least or again I think. And the other thing is, I you know, I wonder you know, taking the John landis out of it if Ken Shapiro had had some other people working with him on the script, like you know, again, za z is three Pete Zuckham's is three people.

It's not just one, so you know, I mean again, if Ken Shapiro had had two other people to bounce his ideas off in a circle and actually have some some creative decisions maybe made and pared down, maybe the Groove Tube would be remembered as fondly as Kentucky. Again, you know, three fucking people as opposed to just one guy like that, I think when it comes to creativity, not necessarily more people is better, But in terms of things like this a sketch comedy movie, having a couple different voices in the room to speak to different comedy styles was probably better, better than just one guy's thing the whole weight. Although you could say, like those later like date movies and whatever, like they're and those are garbage.

So I don't know, well how many of them were involved in those, because that's the thing, Like I know, some of those are's Freeberg and Seltzer, the Zucker Abram Zucker. They could be blamed for being involved in Scary Movie for American Carol and Scary Movie five, but they didn't do date movie or anything, certainly not, and I don't think so. You guess you could blame them for creating a genre of movie that then would get more or less parity parody. I won't blame them at all. Right, they were showing exactly how to do it, and everyone thought, oh, that's easy, we could do that.

And it's not like that's a decade worth of them working really hard and honing their craft and figuring out the formula on how to make this kind of entertainment, and everyone else's is just a more watered down version. It's a you know, a diminishing return. Well, like you know, when I think of like a date movie or a epic movie or a disaster movie, it's like those were just reference fests to things happening at the time that they're so specific to the references that they were making that they have no universality. They are completely without any sort of like they're so topical they can't ever really be watched. Maybe ten years later, because if you don't know, some of those jokes are not going to land.

And it's like what we saw in Groove Tube and this where it's like there are some specific thing that you have to have some reference for it to fully appreciate it. But like Scary Movie one, I feel like still hangs as like its own thing. But yeah, like I mean, ultimately, so many of those movies end up coming out and they kind of just get lumped in with Scary Movie and Naked Gun as like, oh, these are parody movies. It's like they're not in the same they're not even the same. They're not being made by the same level of people who understand what to do because these guys again more or less created the genre themselves.

I saw Fistful of Vienne before I saw Entered, did not affect my appreciation of Fistful of Vienne. And then when I saw it to the dragonment only you know, made my appreciation grow, But it wasn't. It didn't hang on my knowledge of the previous film. Oh God the toy Robot when the first it's so upset the wit of sorry that just said bad I just thought about I think part of it that my that may help too, is that we're also talking about guys that are of the generation that we're so strongly and I mean, by the moll you're gonna be able to speak to this more accurately than but I mean as a whole, like some of our great voices are true out of the box creative. Seventies and eighties are people that were pretty much raised on things like Mad Magacract Magazine.

And that's the thing is that you can look at those old magazine even if the referencing pop culture stuff that you may not get, there's something that is still like great about them because you're you're dealing with creations who were so talented and it's so just like wild and wooly smart and nothing else. And I think whenever you have that, that always is gonna surpass everything else. That's gonna make you stand out and hit something in that, you know, I mean, if everybody, if we got every reference and everything ever made, what's the point of you know, It's like, but you gotta make it if you're just half asses Bashley comedy Comedy is legit one of the hardest things you can do. Comedy and a horror even though they get back other than maybe like erotica, but horror and comedy get the least respect a lot of times and genres, but those two are the hardest genres that do it.

Was absolutely in comedy, I think, especially with comedy, oh subject. And it's so you know, the reason why we love the ones that to do it right is just me and those are like that's like you're a team. Those are your olympias, but those are you know, they're a rare breed and thank god we have them, you know, speaking we spoke about this, but like you know, when you look at representation in the Hopwood Bell, if you look at comedy and horror, it's always been there, like you get, you know, people of color in all of these films, and you know, particularly in the nineteen seventies, and like you know, maybe they weren't getting the big roles in you know, major studio of movies, but like there's been a segment that's always been trying to employ them.

Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is that I love that ally, right, I love it, you know you put that out especially because I think that's why so many of us that grew up feey like besfits get attracted to these genres I mean comedy and horror. Yeah, and I don't really talk about comedy writer or podcast guests or whatever, but like, I mean, those two were the things that got me through childhood, got me through like film like an awkward because I was an awkward kid, you know, I was bullied or whatever like so many of us are. But those are one of the things that like kind of gets here through and pulls you through it. You know that later on you get throw on pok rock.

But but comedy and horror just like you know, just different signs of a coin, right, Like they're both release valves. One is showing us what a nightmare of the world is and the other one that's letting us laugh at it. Yeah. Absolutely, both are also a great coping mech at four in the world, Like, yeah, it's the world is beautiful and it's awful, but acknowledging your fear of it is kind of like cope with that, but also being able to laugh at it takes some of the bite away, especially when you're when you're somebody that has like insiety on that. And maybe again, like you like we've already all mentioned like the idea that the I mean again, like, horror is just as subjective as comed but horror is so much easier to talk about.

Like, I feel like anytime you even want to approach doing a podcast about comedy, and again, I did it with Mark Begley and Mike White earlier this year, and I don't know how people felt about it, Like I feel like, I don't want it to just be like, remember this part of the movie Hardy Heart Horror and we all laugh the whole time. Like That's that's always the concern when it comes to talking about a comedy on a podcast, which is why I tend to avoid them, because I don't want it to just be a reference fest. And it is so subjective that if you're three people talking about it, the hope would be one person and doesn't abjectly hate it, because they'll just sit there as a stick in the button, go I fucking hated it.

Yeah, And like, and that's okay when it comes to something that is less subjective but again subjective in a different way, but comedy, it's just like, I don't know, sometimes I always worry that even if we're talking about it now, it's like, oh God, is it just going to be like Reference Fest twenty twenty three. It's like, I don't think so. But that's the other thing I kind of avoid. I personally avoid talking about comedies because it's just kind of hard. It is harder to talk about them than it would then you would think it would be, oh, unless you have something like this, which at least you can sort of contextualize in its place.

You know, the grand scheme of American comedy cinema, and this is a definite Touchdow this particular. So I could see just watching random romantic comedy and going like, well, what's okay, Like we've done that before, we did what the truth about cats and dogs? That was? That was tough man? Man?

Fuck when was that twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Like good lord god, yeah I was. I was not on that episode. I remember that it came out. I did not because I was like, okay, Jeanine Garofoli is supposed to be the frumpy one. Oh that's what the movie was, right, Yeah, And I was like fuck you Hollywood, like I was legitate garflos Lot, Why am I you know?

I was so like, like done done they put glasses on her Heather, and she became uglier done with this, done with the system. Even even then, I'm even more done with it now, fuck you, Hollywood burn. But uh now I totally get that because I so, I mean, I get the fear with that. But I think also there's that there's shame and things that you think are funny because it's like if we talked about horror, you know, if we were talking about say Hell Raysory, like god that you know that you know, we're afraid, you know, has absorbed the skin you know, of her, of her father, and it's Andy Robin's elevating. But like, uh, you know, like of course, you know, like we do that with all movies.

I think what makes a good podcast or people having a discussion that from too, you know, if it's just but like you said, if it's just somebody being like, yeah, this suck. Who wants to listen that? I hate? I hate. I had this discussion with a freendom recently, Rachel mcpadden.

We were talking about film list and it was just like a little one sentence reviews of each film and we were just like, what's the fucking point? Like if you don't like something or you love it cool, tell us why, Like, not everybody's gonna agree, but that's somebody like Leicester Banks is one of my favorite writers ever. He's like one of my spiritual writing Godfather's. Agree with everything he wrote, but he could at least tell you why and explain it in a way that's compelling, you know, comedies and something I loved about the Group Tube episode is it felt like it's some ways like like Malone, You and h like saw and had more charm with it than I think me and Chris probably, But I loved it because it's like we're getting to have these differences with the film with each other because we're all, you know, we're strong mind individuals, but we're also people that you know, have love for each other, love for film.

It's all good, and we in the of us love this techy I kind of surprised me. Don't hear people talk about it. It's almost like, even though it was a huge house, I like this movie. What's funny about the success of the movie is it eventually grows seven million dollars based on their half million dollars budget, which is massive nineteen seventy seven. Let's face it, right, Yeah, because Sallahassanine was the producer in the movie who and he owned I think United Artist at the time.

So so anytime a film would come in and underperform, he would pull that film out and stick Kentucky Fried movie back in the cinema. And he did this for years and years and years, and so he eventually got to seven million dollars based on him constantly putting it back in the cinema. Oh what a text. That's crazy, Land wondered, Like, I think that's an anti trust issue because he'd produced the movie and he was showing them just like I think they stopped us from doing that back in the twenties. It's nuts.

I just I just maybe it seemed big to me because my mother but always talk about seeing it as a teenager and it made a huge impact on well talk about the piss and the popcorn gap, you know, and all of that. But this owns a banger, Like, I mean, I think I think a lot more Lands than doesn't. I mean, nothing's perfect, or a few things are, but what doesn't Land is my question? Like what doesn't Land? If I mean again, like, let's take fist full of en out of it.

Because we can all agree that it has just like any just like this thing as a whole, it has its ups and downs. What is there a segment that doesn't work at all? Is the question, because we kind of talked around it. But is there one? Yeah, the one with Jerry Zucker in the car with all of the different sirens going off, the warning siren that was novel in nineteen seventy seven to have your Suddenly there's a buzzer sound and you don't know what the safety device is.

Uh, it turns out to be his zipper. That one does not work. I mean when I think of something networking to the point where yeah there now I think I think some things work better than others. I don't think there's anything in this film that made me just be like just sit their stone face and just being like, okay, I'm pants. I think part of it, though, is the is like most of the stuff here's pretty sure, you know where I think, you know, with other films sometimes like it's like okay, you need to get the next thing, like the Affromati allers.

I don't know it's with this full again. And I can't even say nothing landed for me because maybe it's because the things that landed land it's so hard. It's just like, I don't know, I was happy. I was happy as a clam watched. I don't like there's so much.

There's so much silly that it's like the dating game. Like length. I think similarly to yourself, Father Malone. I think if anything didn't work, it would be the nightex PM or the bill Bix be one. And those are just four, like you know, short little commercials.

So in terms of them being like a problem, those three together are less than three minutes. So WHOOPI fucking do. As far as I'm concerned, It's not like in the Groove Tube. I had an issue with what is essentially the feature presentation of that movie, the same way fistful of yen as the Future Presidentsman, Yeah, you know with the with Groove Tube, it's sort of percentage. Why.

I seemed to be about one third of it landed, and we were like, that's good enough. Here it seems like two thirds land I would go even further than that. I think almost everything lands, but a handful of shortness that are just too blackout sketchy for me to really appreciate. I would say I would say, like this land. Yeah, it's like that's why this makes groove tube so much harder to even like defend.

Frank, I will say this, the grooves here is still better. For the record, I'm glad we're not. That's a there's a guy that Kyle that was the other heart you could sell. I first watched that. Yeah, is he gone gone?

Father? No? Father Malone? Oh you're still I'm listening. I'm okay.

You were gone completely on my screen. I had that. No, I'm sorry. Somebody was messaging No, no, no, I didn't. I couldn't see you at all.

Okay, that's what was going on. Sorry, am I boring you? Is that one? Know what? I'm oh?

I was like, wait what No, No, I thought. There's times I've interrupted you that when I'm sorry. It's just it's been like so stuttery. I apologize for the internet connections. No, it happens.

Bro, do you do you keep that hamster on the wheel? I throw it over my shoulder and a really awesome sight gag that's a throwaway was a good thing. But no, no, it happens. I meant, at least at least your internet didn't like legit I had buying like we had a power outage as I was wrapping up a project. Oh, I had, I had my fully during the Dawn of the Dead projective though, no, no fucking universe, bro.

I realized, yeah that you know what it was. It was the zinc oxide. Zinc oxide, zinc oxide and your husband's pacemaker and just fucking drops. I will say I did appreciate the reoccurring gag of today, something will happen to you that you don't expect, and then people just start dying from arrow. My god, the other great running gag in the movie, and just a great gag in general.

And man, I love those arrow effects, those old air effects of the monofilament. And they would actually just shoot the arrow into the like a like a sandbag under the clothes. It always worked, It looks great. It always you're a Gemini, expect the unexpected. Oh if you're a taurust cflorist.

Oh my god. You know they were just giggling to themselves when they wrote that line that I will say, Zucker and Abrams and Zucker they show up a fair amount in this, don't they. Oh yeah, and why wouldn't they? Right, Well, It's funny because we would always point out when we did police Squad when they would show up, because they would show up or then I want to say, either Zucker or Abram's mom is in Naked Gun as the secretary to Ricardo Maltavon. But I don't know, Like where they are here is like I don't know.

They're all there front and center this time around for sure. Well in courtroom, I know Jimmy Abrams is the courtroom reporter, so he is front and center, and they're all in that. Yeah, they're all front and center in that one, because isn't Zucker is the beaver. And then David Zucker gets up and you know, he's on the stand and he's the spoon so he can figure out his name. Yeah, oh god, he was, Yeah, Yeah, I love David.

That's David Zucker. Yeah, oh my god, I love the one lawyer that had the penal code. And he at one point he takes the dildo and puts it on his head and he starts acting like he's oh, I'm fucking god. Yeah. There there are so many good fucking gags in the spoon.

I'm sorry to interrupt, Chris, but you know, speaking to you said earlier, Heather about everyone, all of this generation of comedians, whether they're they like it or not, we're disciples of Mad Magazine, right, And I think the zazz boys here like picked up the genial nature of that. Like, as as transgressive and as mean or as hard as any of the jokes here are, there's always a lightness to it that always came through this. It was always a gentle sort of parody in Ribbing and and I think that carries over in the or starts here really in this movie. Yeah, the only joke that feels a little mean spirit it is the danger Secret. Yeah, yeah, that.

But again to your point, father, them alone, like, I think they were more or less paroding, like the levels to which you will go versus what you won't actually, but I mean you went to the you went to the furthest from point as far as i've yeah, you know, it's more a parody of the fucking phenomenon itself, the sudden need to put yourself in danger. It is ridiculous. I'm glad I finally watched this movie. I enjoyed it a fair amount. Yeah, it's some good.

I'm glad I got to like watch it about it or watch it again, like yeah, every time I put it, I'll put it on and go like, I'll just watch it for a second, and then I see the time and I go like how long it wille is? And I go, oh, yeah, I've just breezed through this. And I end up watching this movie more than I think. I shit this. I mean, it flies by.

It's an hour and a half. It's a quick hour and a half. I miss the hour and a half movie. I really fucking do you know. Like I've been watching a lot of horror movies recently that came out this year, and they're all sub an hour forty five, and I'm like, fuck, I miss Frank At Sarah's more movies.

I mean, every so often, I love a good long movie if it's guys called Indian Cinema, Indian Cinema or Hertzog or ven vendors like like cinema for best guys perfect. Most things don't need to be the most things don't need to be three hours. Most films do not need to be The Lost Things don't need to be two hours and forty five minutes. Look at you, all the Marvel movies, all of a sudden we have we have a we have eight eighteen set pieces to get through. Fuck you you do?

It makes eighty to ninety let's go back. So there's a lot of those for any Hollywood made off when Steven Seagal's movies were being given a hard time because they were a little over two hours in the nineties, and now we have two and a half hour action movies that have less charm than even Seagal's movies. Did we have a problem? And I mean in those movies don't have Steven Seagal playing guitar with Marty Rumpits or or defending the oil rights of the Native people of Alaska. He really is the white savior folks.

My god. Uh and hey, he shows up in The Onion, the Onion sketch comedy movie as the cock cock Puncher. I believe missed it. Actually started watching it and then stopped, like like movie forty three, I stopped watch have you seen the ten sketch movie about about the Ten Commandments? That I haven't seen it either, No desire.

I know it's not gonna be any good. This this, this, this thing reached its u zenith. At what the movie we're doing at the end of the month. That's fair. I was gonna ask, as we bring this episode to a close, just because I have you here.

Do you consider UHF a sketch comedy movie or sketch comedy adjacent adjacent like a brain candy or a Hollywood shuffle. There are sketches within, but they're buried within a narrative. Oh God, I love Hollywood any huh I just I mean, look, I'm not saying we need to do an episode on UHF because Mike did an amazing episode on his show, but any opportunity to rewatch UHF in a professional setting is not going to sneak. I'm just saying if culture cast us, I'll guess the ship out of it. We've done it all in UHF.

Actually I got to see I saw the theater as a block. Now that I am jealous, I got to I had to choose between that and Batman. Yeah, and I wanted to see Batmian. But I think you have more street cred. It sums me up because first it's very odd eighty nine.

I saw everything fair. Why not all of us are fancy well? Student of the game. Big times is the game? Yeah?

So Heather I'll kick it to you first final thoughts on Kentucky frad Movies. It's great, it's hilarious, it's a reverend yea, I love it, and Barry Dennen is the man. I'll give my thoughts, and then Father Malone, I'll kick it to you. I enjoyed it a fair amount as well. I think again, unfortunately you have to somewhat try to distance us from Groove too.

But this is a podcast and it builds on itself, and we've seen that now and now we've seen this, So yeah, I would prefer this over Groove two. But I enjoyed this an immense amount, and the lows of this were much higher than any of the highs. But at the same time, I'm excited to see where we end up later in the month with Amazon Women on the Moon, given that this is a starting spot for so many people, not just the suckums, but also you know, John Lando. And now I'm probably gonna go watch American Werewolf in Londes. That sounds like a good idea, and that sounds like a good movie to watch right now, given that it's you know, we're about halfway to the spooky season at least in the month of September.

So, but it's the spooky season and all of our hearts all the time. So Father Malone, I'll kick it to you. Final thoughts on Kentucky Fried American Werewolf in line that is never about Never Kentucky Fried movie is worth a look if you haven't seen it, it is. You know, it's very quick, you know, in this age of people loving the ninety minute movies, right, they have their own categories and streaming these days, right, like, well, I gotta find some ninety minutes and under. But there's nothing wrong with ninety minutes and under.

Sam Ramy prideed himself on the on the levity of his early movies, did he not and watched mostly ninety minute movies in our life? Sure, so this is one of those. So you should seek it out and as a document in history. First of all, it absolutely needs to be seen for both the Zucker Abram Zucker connection and John landis Is connection. I think it's very funny to this day.

I think you know, the fact is, there have been so many sketch shows and like on television now and on the internet, and the idea of sketch comedy is so watered down that I don't know that I can recommend to this to like a teenager like that they would get anything going on here now necessarily, but like you know, it's the actual sort of physical comedy is always time. It's why Chaplain is still I'm not comparing this to chaplain, but in a way I am, you know, like the physical gang still work here and I love John Lambis. Let me just say that again. Okay. Also, well, you know you play the commercial there for the next one, because I got a few worse to say about the next one if you don't mind.

So yeah, on that note, we'll take a quick break and we'll play a preview for the next episode. Is there Mike's Mundo Video? Mister Mike's Mundo Video, the television show that can't be shown on television coming soon to your local theater now playing at a famous Players theater or drive in near you. That's right. On the next episode, we're going to be talking about mister Mike's Mondo Video, a film not directed by John Landis No, certainly not now.

The all the lightness and genial favor I was describing when dealing with the Sucker Brothers and landis to that to a degree, that's going to be completely absent in the next one. The sort of incestuousness of the of the Channel one or you know, uh, inspiring the Zuckers and this whole thing coming together like as lovely and community building as that is, Like, that's going to be completely absent because we're gonna be We're gonna be stuck with a madman the name of Michael O'Donohue who doesn't seem to me, who have ever been influenced by anyone, and just has a definite singular vision there. That's all. I'm excited. Heather's gonna be there, folks, I'm gonna be there, and it'll be the three of us again.

So yeah, till then, Heather, Where can people find you kicking around on the internet? Oh want me, I'm always kicking up a fuss. You can find me over at link tree dot com on slash Mondo Heather. There you'll find my website, montom, my Patreon, my social media, various articles and podcast episodes that I have been on, and you'll find some of the ones I've done with these two lovely gentlemen. So yes, you can find me Lash about you well as for me, go to weirdingwaymedia dot com.

Will you be hearing me all month here with these sketch comedy movies. But I would also encourage you to check out the aforementioned noise junkies that Heather and I do with our pal hp our Music podcast. Speaking of hp he and I do a podcast called Night Mister Walters the Taxi Podcast, which I would also encourage everyone to give a listen to. It's it's pretty funny and who doesn't love seventies TV s? I know I sure do because you can find all the things that I talk about seventies TV shows related over at weirdingwaymedia dot com, where Mike White and I talk about Barney Miller, we talk about Colombo and then kick it to the eighties and Father Malone.

Mike White and I talk about Night Gallery, but we've also talked about Twilight Zone nineteen eighty five, So we're kind of all over the place talking about all sorts of things from the seventies and eighties that we're watching, advocating you watch it as well, but come join us in a remembrance of these things over Weirdingway Media dot com. As for this show, culturecast dot com, Patreon dot com, slash culture Cast ten, twenty and fifty are the levels you can get in at if you're interested in supporting the show monetarily, but like rate and review the show wherever you get it, which is probably I so, Father Malone, Heather, thank you so much for joining me as way, Thank you, thank you, and Father Malone?

What oh no for it? What I was gonna say, Father Malone? Also, thank you again for programming the month and another fantastic film. I would think, well, thank you for letting me do it. I like thanks, I mean, I always appreciate it.

You you bring your a game. I mean, you know everybody you programs the months normally that you always seem to spring on your hair at the end. That's what I'm just waiting for. An what if I didn't, If you didn't, that would be that would be a great end of my evening. Once again, I have not prepared a porn name, and I just want to go, oh no, no, don't don't go breaking my hurt.

I was about to say. And on that note, Heather, what is your porn parody title for the Kentucky Fride movie it's really stoop and I feel like this whole episode, I've been back on my bullshit and I apologize. I can't help myself. I am me. I'm not going to apologize, but I'm woman.

I am me. Mister T from Free Love Fiddles already, I love him to Okay, God, you're gonna say what I Can we say it at the same time, because I'm pretty sure I had the exact same one kicking around my head. Yeah. I don't know if you're going to have the full title, but I bet we have the first already. Come Kentucky, all going, kunt Entucky, Hunt Chucky, Kuntentucky, Pride of Booty.

Wow, I hit it ristle. That did not go at all where I thought it was going to go at all. But I'd like coume Entucky continue bother Malone. I'll kick it to you before I get mine. I guess the exasperation on your face.

No, I'm not because this is easy. It's it's in the movie. It's I'm just gonna call Catholic school high school, Catholic high school girls in trouble. You'll cream in your jeans that but that has to be part of the title you cream in your gene. That's fad.

I just think you're no, you you're better. You're just riffing. You're you're not riffing it up, you're stealing. You're not a thief, You're not to your Tino that damn it. You're a Jean's Come on, I'm not.

Yeah, he's not doing he's not. Well, you know what I'll do it kume Entucky cum filled movie. Yeah, yes, and then the sequel to be the Kumentucky cum filled movie to dripping with more cum than could have ever imagined. It's just a really long I'm not how about German Fried movie Uve Bowls First Film, which is a remake of this movie? Can I use that as the pawn title?

So on that note, we'll catch you on the next episode.