Special Report: Mye Hoang on 25 Cats from Qatar (2025)

Oh yes, boots shoot. People say good money to see this movie. When they go out to a theater, they want cold sodas, hot popcorn, and no monsters in the protection booth. Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring as. How many stray cats do you think are in guitar?

I mean, it's like never ending. They've got lots of rats here. They have to import tats from abroad. The breeders in the shops they will be and they will sell. This will never stop.

I own a cat cafe in Milwaukee, and I can help to see the situation for myself. I'm traveling and I have twenty five cats booked in cargo. Do you have a yes? When I go to Doha, I'm going to meet some of the rescuers for the first time. There's a very small handful in Katar who are dedicated to the cause.

I have rescued, maybe more than the five on. The rescuers have exhausted all efforts to find them homes in their native countries. They know that the animals have no chance and Cutter. They just going just a cat, you know, but f as it's not a cat. It's like a bull leg, you know.

There's so many cats that need homes, so they have to. Be very, very friendly. The landlord knows what we're doing, but he doesn't know the amult of catolic. Well I can't take that. Well I'll take two.

So all these cats are ready to go? Is this cat? You're ready to travel? I got I want to take on so Cinderella, then look thirty dollars. I'm going to take her.

This guy just cracks me out. I promise I'm not going to foster forever with him. I'll end up in divorced court. I have a lot of folks thought I was absolutely insane. I'm not a really tight time crimes here.

It always comes down to the wire. You literally just won the Lennard thanks for pooping all over me. That is definitely him. Grab them. There's always something that happens.

I have a whole certificate here. We have to have backups for the backups for the backups, so she has some stowaways? Is that what you're saying to twenty three twenty four? So this is this is why I'm doing this. I'm missing a cat.

I want this one. Assuming you're like a cab, No, I'm a camera anymore. Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of The Projection. I'm your host Mike White. On this episode, I'm talking with my Huang.

She is the director of the new documentary twenty five Cats from Qatar. It is a great, great movie all about pet rescue in Qatar as well as the United States and other countries. The film is currently touring around the country. It's going to be in Detroit coming up in a few days here. Definitely check out twenty five Cats from Qatar dot com for where it's playing in your area.

Just one real quick thing, we talk in this episode about TNR and just wanted to let y'all know that that stands for trap, neuter and return, just in case you get a little confused by the acronym. Once again, definitely check out where this is playing near you, and I hope you enjoy this interview. Obviously, I want to ask you about the movie, but I'd love to know a little bit more of your background. I read that you grew up in Dallas. Correct.

Yeah. I founded the Asian Film Fessel Dallas when I was in college. I've just always been involved. My first job was at one hundred year old movie theater. I was a projectionist and then manage and then I started a film festival, and then I studied film.

Wanted to go into filmmaking, but never never once thought about doing documentary. And when I was fed up with the trying to get things done in the narrative world, I switched over to documentary really on a whim, just to I just wanted to make films that I wanted to exist, and that's how I make Cat Daddies. It was really just purely selfish motivation. And then I decided that, oh, you know, I think this documentary filmmaking suits me better. And I also ended up watching documentaries more than narrative.

In some cases it just seems like the that's the better fit. And so I'll I've just been making them. As long as I can get them funded. I just keep making them. And then it just ends up being cat stuff, which is fine.

Which is fine because it's rewarding in itself. So even if there is no kind of reward at the end of the tunnel, the process is quite enjoyable working with cats and cat footage for years. You're okay with the title of the cat documentary. Lady, Yeah, I'm okay. With that, would I like to do other stuff?

Sure, but I for now it just seems I'm sure we'll get into it. But the next stock I'm working on I just started a Kickstarter for, and it's actually again about cats. It's actually some kind of prequel spin off from twenty five Cats. Where did the idea for cat daddies come from? One from my marriage?

Because I saw my husband in the before and after, and I think that a lot of men don't realize they could love a cat, and so I think you don't know what you don't know, and I think there's a lot more men who have things to discover about themselves. So I wanted to and I also, again selfish motivation. I wanted to create what I wanted to see, and I wanted to see more of this content that I was seeing on social media. But I wanted more out of it, So that's why I made it. And I wanted to survey the entire country and get all types of different men's and show that a lot of different type of men can love cats, and hopefully encourage more men to explore that option, because I think there's a lot of misconception about cats and they are so very different where I feel like most dogs are the same, Like they're very extroverted and friendly and outgoing and loyal and all these things.

But I think cats run a whole gamut of personalities, and so it's really about finding the right cat for you. I don't think people realize that they have the stereotype of being aloof and independent, don't just want food and don't eat. But they're quite affectionate, right if they find they're human, And so you don't really see that because you don't see people walking their cats as much as you see walking their dogs. So dogs get a lot of attention, whereas cats are you wouldn't know unless you have a relationship with a cat what. They're really like.

The logistics of finding all of your subjects for that film before we even talk about twenty five cats, how did you even pull that off? Not It wasn't too hard. It was a lot of searching on social media. And I want a different kind of cats. That's why I have the adventure cats, cats that could be walked on a leash.

They just want to show different things and parts of the world. It actually was going to be more international before the pandemic hit. Actually while during the year that we were filming, and so that changed everything and we couldn't go to our international subjects, so then the focus was on the United States. And David and Lucky. It was just really a lucky thing that I met them.

I had a Kickstarter campaign and somebody he pledged was friends with him and helping to take care of him and reached out to me and said, I've got this friend. He's on the streets with his cat. You have to meet him. He has to be in this movie. And at first I was hesitant because I was already cast up.

I'm like, I've got everything. This is before the pandemic. I got way too much going on in this movie. And also tonally, I don't see how this could work. It was actually going to be more lighthearted than it ended up being.

And met him and just thought, just fell in love with him and Lucky, and. It's just like, we have to even if we don't end up including him, we have to film his story. And so that's what ended up happening. So he was just really a lucky thing. And then the rest were like people I found on social media with hashtags and just asking them if they wanted to be.

A part of it. I actually got some nose. There were some other people who didn't end up appearing or being filmed that I wanted, but I'm. Happy with the lot that we got. And then twenty five cats from Qatar?

How do you even hear about this project? Okay, so again happenstance. This happens to me a lot. While I was touring film festivals with cat Daddies, I was in Milwaukee at the film festival, the owner of the Cat Cafe came to my screening. I went to her cat Cafe, so we connected that way, stayed in touch.

I knew she was doing international rescue, but I didn't really know the details. I wasn't really that interested until some time passed and I was seeing her posts, and after having met her in person, I'm just like, this is really extreme and I can't believe this woman is doing the solo. Like you hear about international rescue or any kind of transport of animals, and it's usually involving a large organization like opera, big operation and a chartered flight, you know, maybe a private play, all this stuff, and like she's bringing them over on a commercial flight and paying for this herself and it just was so extreme. And then I just asked her on a whim if she'd be interested if I ever I'm like, if we ever get funding.

For a movie about this, would you want to do it? And she was definitely yes. And then it just so happened that someone a huge fan of cad Daddies is a Hedge Fund guy, Hedge fun cad daddy, and he gave me a lot of compliments about the film and was just like, I want to do something with you. What you know, what do you have next? And later on I soft pitched him this and I was just like, Hey, remember our conversation.

I'm thinking about doing something in the Middle East. I'm learning about this overpopulation crisis and I'm trying to understand it better. And he just happened to have been there, he'd seen the situation, and he was all in. And so it's kind of a fairy tale story because he just was the sole funder of this, of this project that was just going to be about her next rescue mission, and we didn't have much time because she had already planned out her next trip and it happened to be guitar. So I didn't even choose guitar.

But I thought it was perfect because what I didn't know much about guitar. But I knew that they hosted the World Cup, and I knew that cats were on the field and that players had adopted these cats. That's all I knew. And so I thought this just happened last year, and so I was just, oh, no, I just follow signs, and I just followed gut feeling and that's it. And then we were Yeah, it was a matter of from pitch to being in Doha.

It's just a matter of a few months. It happened very fast. For a documentary A yeah, it's like, already you've. Got the logistics of her trying to do all the things she's doing, arrange the flight and get the carriers and all of these things, and then adding a film on top of that, it just feels like it's a recipe for chaos. Yeah, I was.

It might have been that, it might have been naivete. It might have been, but I'd like, let's just try to pull it off. And yeah, I mean there was a lot of stress and worry about are we gonna get detained, are we gonna get our footage taken? We were going in without permits, no permission. Nobody knew what I was doing.

I didn't even talk about it on social media. I didn't even tell people where. I didn't tell anyone whereas going until it happened and we got back and had everything. There was also like no casting involved, whoever she was meeting and taking cats from, and if they were okay with being in the film, that was it. Like there was no I had just a little bit of like pre interview, but they were so like quiet and humble.

I didn't even know what their personalities were like until we got there, and then they just completely opened up and letely candid. And part of that was because I sent them a link to watch Cat Daddies if they wanted, and I think that helped a lot, because I think they felt like they could trust me and that I wasn't going to make them look weird or kooky or anything like. This is a very I'm more interested in the humanity than making people look like clownish or cartoonish or whatever. And so I was just, yeah, I was really just taken aback by just how open they were with me, and that's. Risky for them.

And some and one rescuer actually. Declined to be a part of it, just out of their own personal concerns. So she took cats from someone we never we never see or learn about, but everybody else. Yeah, And I was so lucky that they were each all just so interesting and just wonderful on camera, and I yeah, it's just a very lucky, lucky project. How many people are in your crew to film this?

It's me and two camera operators. We just did everything to try not to attract attention. And I'm really I'm most surprised that we got away with what we did at the airports. I thought we're going to be filming for three minutes and they're going to shut us down. So I was just like, get everything you can, guys, and we were not shut down, so we got everything we needed out of that.

I think that, you know, I'm very small, and I think like me and my crew, I think we're young looking and probably look completely unprofessional, and nobody thought much of us. Probably is what happened. Yeah, when you're following her as she's trying to get to the cargo as it were, Yeah, it was amazed that you weren't being just shut down right there, that she was able to just even push past everybody. Yeah. The only part that we couldn't film was in the actual going through customs like act the actual Yeah, going through that part, that one you couldn't have cameras And we couldn't have cameras in the hotel lobbies in Qatar.

The security is very high. Every hotel has twenty four hour X ray machines insecurity, very high security, and so we couldn't film in those parts. And that's why they had to go through the basement or through the parking to smuggle the cat. Why the forty minutes later did you get lost that much? Yeah?

I think he was in the wrong tower. It is. It's huge, and all of the hotels are like these luxury hotels because everything's newly built. So it's a great place to vacation and you get like a five star hotel at two star prices. But they are Yeah, they're absolutely huge.

They're very easy to get lost in. It's like Vegas some of those huge hotels, maybe even bigger than some of those hotels. It's very opulent. I think I didn't get the capture as much. Of the opulence as I would have liked, But there was just no place for it.

And then as you're just walking around during the day, it's cats everywhere. They hide during the day. We're there at the height of summer, so they actually hide a lot during the day, and so we had to be up at night to capture a lot. It's still over one hundred degrees at night, but at least they'll come out, and so yeah, so a lot of that footage is taken after midnight into the krack of dawn before the sun comes out, because after that it's just blazing and it's very humid too, because it's a peninsula, so it feels like one hundred percent humidity. I do hot yoga and it feels like that.

Just walking through day and night. It is just so hot. Again, like it's not even a place that I think humans should be living in, much less the animals. It was just amazing to see that footage of just how many And I was just curious as far as is it just that all the time or are you going to certain areas You see it a. Little less in some of the luxury parts of the city, but definitely in the suk, which is the marketplace, and then where the workers live the underbelly of the city is where you see them more.

But yeah, they're everywhere, and I don't even think I. Captured like that as well as I wish, because the thing is like, there's a lot of cats, but they're also scattered. So you know, if you see a corner in the movie with a lot of cats, you have to understand that it's like that every corner. So you just keep going and going, and there's more more colonies and more colonies everywhere, and so it's hard to capture just like how many cats there are. We were with the feeder that you see at the beginning of the movie.

He starts feeding at three am to six am before he goes to work, so we were with him for three hours as he's driving from corner to go. To the feed cat. How long is the shoot in Qatar? Like how long are you there from touchdown to liftoff? So one camera operator was there two days before we showed up.

We were there for four four and a half days, so me and another camera operator we were there before and halfy and then the second camera operator stayed. Two days after we left. So that's it. And I was worried because during Cat Daddy's. We were shut down for a while because of the pandemic.

I told these guys, even if even though I did budget for pickups in case we need to come back and get more, let's shoot this like we cannot ever come back, So shoot everything possible. Not only because the mission is happening in real time so we can't get all of that any of. That again, but just even just the b roll. We were just like, get everything we need. And I had a list of what I wanted, and I was just like, we have to get everything because we might get banned, or something could happen in the world.

What's happening right now could have been happening then, and then we can't even fly back. That's remarkable four in some days to shoot all of that, I mean, you must have just been going, going, going the entire time. Yeah, the two camera operators sometimes had to Sometimes all three of us were together, and sometimes they were taking turns, sleeping. Shooting all those subjects, all the different places she's going, because it feels like she's just moving all the time and checking in with all of these different people and places she is. And she barely takes a break.

She hardly ever eats. I'm just like, I'm like having to stop her and slow her down so I can feed the crew, and also trying to stay hydrated and all these things. I was very worried about the safety of everyone. And she did start to get some heat exposure, so she's getting dizzy and things like that. So yeah, it was a big concern of mine, because.

Yeah, we don't want anyone going down, and I want to keep things as safe as possible. And it's hard when you don't have enough sleep and you don't have enough hydration and food and something, because it's a lot, and then and then like we have to offload the footage and then duplicate it in the middle of the night. So it's just, yeah, I don't recommend it. I was, like, I said, I must have been really naive to think that we could pull it off on such a small crew. Most people would not attempt to do something like that and such a small crew, But you pulled it.

Off, and you made a wonderful documentary. You should so proud of yourself that you guys were able to do this. Thank you. Yeah, but I don't know if I'd. Ever do that again.

By fire, really, really Lucky. Yeah, and so lucky to find those nice people. Everybody in the documentary. I want to give hugs to everybody, and even those vets are amazing. Yeah.

Everyone. It was just like the experience itself was just so rewarding too. It was just I'm just so honored to know them and tell their story and be able to do some good with the film. And we've been touring with it and trying to raise money not only for local organizations, but to send money to them as well to their vet bill. I did the same thing with Cat Daddies.

Is just also that movie also helped David and Lucky. They now have fans and. Friends all over the world. I'm just grateful that. I think that's why I would stay doing cat documentaries.

It can enlighten people and educate and also do these things. To be helpful. The shoot was breakneck. You also had to shoot in the States as well. How long did you shoot here?

Not long, just a day or two on both ends of the trip and in Milwaukee, and then we actually had to wait a year for Katie reopened her cat cafe. Yeah, we had to wait really just for that thirty seconds at the end, so waiting a whole year to get that. But I imagine you're doing all your post work at that point. Post work, I was showing cuts to people in the animal rescue community and just making sure that we got everything right. I didn't want things to be too hard for people to watch.

I wanted to be honest, so I'm very careful. A lot of people were like, is this going to be too graphic or too painful to watch? And I think I got it to the edge. A lot of people like end up crying in the screenings, but I think it's a mix of happy and sad, and I think that, Yeah, it took a while to fine tune to get the cut just right. Who did you work with as an editor?

Oh? With me? I know you wear a lot of hats. I was wondering if you cut this one too. They had an editor in mine, but then they edited that editor kind of his career took off and then he had no tie, and then it just ended up being me, and then.

That saved us money. I definitely rely on my producers, my creative producers, to give their input and help me with some more challenging, difficult scenes. Yeah, but yeah, physically It's just it just ended up being me. I can do it, but not on a deadline. I had to work in my own page.

I'm not that good or that fast. Least, reviewing footage got to be a little easier since you were there for most of it. That was a good thing because I knew where everything was, I knew what day we were somewhere, and whatever I could find it was a lot easy faster for me to find it than anyone else who would have been an editor. Yeah, so that was definitely an advantage. You talked about getting feedback from different people when it comes to the cut that you were working on, When do you actually get to see this with an audience for the first time.

There was a rough cut, and I did a test screening, like an in person test screening with eight ten people, and I did it on both coats. I did it again in LA So I just think it's really important to get a lot of different variety of feedback. And some people like send a link and then they get feedback email or virtually or whatever. I need to be in the room and then I need to have a conversation with the audience right after. And I'm really big on testing films, and so I did that in New York, made some tweaks, did it again in La made more tweaks.

And just keep tweaking. And I think that a lot of first time filmmakers don't do that enough. I've just learned that it's so valuable and it helps make everything so much better. Yes, they do the survey, but just also like talking it through with the with the audience is really important. And once it gets to the point where you're showing it to people and they don't nothing bothers them is when they the less feedback they start to have, then it's Okay, we're there, we got it.

And so that's what I That's what I do a lot. And then I plant specific people, different ages, different backgrounds, people who don't care about cats and people who our. Passionate about cats. So I try to get a mix of people and try to get all that feedback. When was your premiere, it was.

Actually exactly a year ago in Milwaukee, so it was a hometown premiere. So we filled the Oriental Theater, which is a thousand seats, like it has a balcony. Yeah, and it was incredible. We're actually planning to go back and do it again in Milwaukee's because so many people missed it, but her rescue work has. Been featured a lot in local news and so.

People are very familiar with the Cat Cafe, so that was a great And we actually had a couple of cats from. The movie do red carpet photos with us, so that was a lot of fun. Yeah, what is the audience reaction like, because I know, me watching it in my living room, I'm just going aw all so many times. Yes, exactly. Yeah, from really minute one until the end, it's a lot of awe and oos and squealing every time there's a cute kids, and there're you fleeing, and there's you know, crying, and then there's yeah, it's just and then there's just amazing applause at the end when you see the end, the title up and it changes, you know, at the end.

And I want to keep it in the theater experience as much as as long as I can, because I just think that's where it reaches people emotionally the most. I think it is like when you're in a room with other people, especially like minded, compassionate people. This is nothing like it, and that's kind of what I love about making the cat documentaries is bringing that community together. And I think this movie especially, I think it honors people and rescue work. Even years ago, I didn't know that there are so many people doing this work on their own.

We often think that. There's institutions like you know, the SBCA, and they're taking care of things. You know, you think that they're doing the work, they're taking care of things, and then you realize that, no, there's a lot of people who are doing all this on their own, and they're unseen and you know, not thanks and they're not supported enough our boots on the ground doing this work. When did you get your first cat when I was a child. I've had cats ever since I was a kid, and there was actually I I really I had one cat that had a pretty traumatic death.

Thought I would never have cats again. It was just way too painful for me. But I guess I got over it because now I have five. You said you have five cats inside? Do you have outdoor cats too?

So I have a far old cat that came with the house. Yeah, it had lived there before me, and it was already t and R so it had ear tipped. So it just comes for food. But it doesn't mean you can't even look. The cat in the eye.

It just will run away. Yeah, so we've tried everything. It seems to love us and it loves the other cat, but it does not want to be inside. Tell me more about this new project you're working on right now. It's tentativetively called uh Manu survivd Manu slash Survivor, and I just launched the kickstarter this month and basically, again it's happens.

Since it's and my gut feeling during the tour. Actually, at the world premiere in Milwaukee, one of the Doha rescuers came to the screening and brought us some gifts, and one of the gifts was a calendar of the TNR colony, one of them in Doha. So I was busy, and you know, months went by I had not looked at it. I looked at it one day and I'm flipping through. You know, some of the photos weren't even very remarkable, but I passed one that just caught me and I'm just like, huh, that cat looks just like one of the cats that we rescued.

And I looked closer, and I'm like, if that cat is missing a foot. That's mono and it was missing a foot. So then I went down this rabbit hole and Katie had the calendar too. She hadn't even noticed, and so I went down this rabbit hole, like we're trying to find the photographer, We're trying to find the people that made the calendar and like, and then you know there's correspondence. I'm comparing the calendar too, like photos that I have footage, you know, looking at the spot markings cat.

And then we confirmed that it is the same cat. And we confirmed that he had a whole other life and a whole story before we even met him. And not only that, it's all documented. So we have photos and Arkaiwo footage of him as a baby. It all is stuff.

And there were at least like a dozen other people from different countries, expats that lived in Doha over many years, that came in and out of his life, that cared for him, that fed him. And not only did we find out the story of how he lost his leg, we found out that he had disappeared the year that we were there shooting the movie. And they thought he was a god. They thought he had died. He just vanished one day after many many.

Years, and they they mourned him, they greet So now two three years later that are finding out that he's alive and well in America and he's in a movie, and it's just a miracle. But there's more details in his journey and his story of survival, even more mirthless. And that's kind of what I'm following for this movie. And there's still questions that are unanswered, and so for me, this is like a quest movie and I'm going to try to put all the pieces together. And I don't want to give too much away, but it's it becomes a kind of a spiritual movie, and I hope that it gives comfort to people who have lost a pet, either if the pet went missing or if they passed away.

I'm hoping that it that it's that kind of movie, but I don't know how it's going to evolve. So my Kickstarter pitch is like, look, if you like my past two movies, i'm pretty sure you're. Gonna like this one. But I can't really tell you what it's about. And I don't know how.

It's going to end, because, as you know, documentaries can evolve into something you didn't expect this is a challenging movie, and I will also have to do reenactments, maybe using animation, which I've never done before. So there's a lot of things, a lot of elements of this movie I've never done before. You know, I do all this stuff. Independently because I just don't think that my movies fit. I mean, even though there's the cats and the marketing aspect of it, nobody's the gatekeepers aren't really interested in what I'm doing, and they aren't really I'm interested in telling kind of like stories that have never been told and maybe you won't ever get told unless I do it, and I want to do it the way I want to do it, and I just don't think anyone the gatekeepers are not really interested in that.

So I just tend to like raise my own funding for these things. And when I heard the story and when I tell other people, they're just like, yeah, this isn't You've got to do this. And I also felt that inside too, like no one else would tell the story, but it is such a special story I've never heard before. So I just feel like, yeah, I'm just going to try to try to do it on my own spending because it could you know, it could take years just to raise the money just to get somebody just to work with a streamer or a studio or dunction companies. That's kind of what I'm doing.

And I'm just going to try to distribute it back to the kickstarter backwards, you know, but just disturbu it direct to my audience is what I'll probably do, because I just don't see you know, I've tried, but I just don't see these movies ending up on a streamer because they're so small, and because they're not controversial enough, or they're not based on any ip or famous person or and it's they're sincere and heartfelt, which I just don't think the streamers seem to be interested in. They want something more exploitative. It sounds like man, who's a real cat celebrity. It's a very special story. And we will also see some of the other cats as well, kind of.

A little update on them, But it's a whole new cast human characters. Yeah, so we'll maybe see some of the ones from twenty five Cats. We'll see a little bit of Katie, I'm sure, and some of the rescuers in Doha. But it's actually a new cast of characters. Well, you know, as soon as I hang up with you, I'm going to be tracking down that kickstarter and donating to it.

But where's the best place to find that and find out more about you and twenty five Cats? Yeah, everything's on the website, twenty five Cats from qatar dot com and so all of that is there, as well as a list of the cities we're going to. We're kind of ending in a year and so. Still booking more cities, so I suggest people get on the email list so that you get updated on where it's going. There'll be more, but I'm kind of done with the film festivals, so a lot of the events we're putting on usually fundraising for a local charity, and we just want to keep it, keep it going.

We're actually also been invited back to cities we've already been to. Yeah, as the word of mouth grows, Like we're going back to San Francisco to the Roxy, We're going back to Portland, this time in the Hollywood Theater. And it seems like the word of mouth is growing, so we'll just keep it going. This way, I can't really distribute this movie the same way as Cat Daddies for a number of reasons, but one of them is I feel protective of the rescuers that are still Intoha. I don't want to just throw it up on Amazon or YouTube or whatever, so I'm keeping it close so that I can keep control of the movie myself.

But Cat Daddies is available very easily with. Ads on Amazon and YouTube and many, many, many countries, but I know there's not every country. But the good thing about the kickstarter is that I will give people access to three films. You know, the third one when it's done, but I'll give people online access to all films, and so wherever you are in the world, you can get access to the films. I will try my best to get this out out asap, hopefully to help support the Detroit screening.

But I'm so glad that you're touring this around still. Yeah, I forgot to talk about Detroit. Well, you mentioned that I'm going to be in Detroit. Yeah, Katie and I will both be in Detroit, and we're really excited because we haven't played an Arab film festival yet, and so. I just love the fact that you.

Know, more of the Arab community will finally even know that this exists. Yeah, that was so interesting about the whole thing with Islam being open to cats, because i know, like, obviously I live here in Detroit and we've got the you know, the whole Arabic community, and I'm like, yeah, they do not have dogs, but they didn't know about the cats. So that's fantastic. Yeah, I mean one of the questions that comes up is why are they so neglectful of the cats when they revere the cats in the religion, And I'm. Like, exactly.

It's also the movie is also a great time for people we're watching this movie too, because we're talking so much about the billionaires. I'm always like. Well, you know, the billionaires care about what the billionaires care about, that's what they're out doing, and they're not helping people in the lower class or kitty cat. I mean, that's why we're having this problem. Yeah.

I know when I was in Shanghai for a few months a few years ago and just the number of cats that I saw over there, And then when you talked about the expat problem, I was like, oh, that's probably it. I was in an expat community. Yeah, and there's some interesting things too that other countries are doing, like even in Chinhin. You know, they made a really cool sanctuary that's also a tourist attraction. So the sanctuary is making money to help take care of T and R and take care of the cats, and it's attracting people.

And I'm hoping that that is that could be a solution for dohas what I'm hoping. No, that sounds like a good idea. Yeah, something needs to happen, so and your documentary really shines a light on that. Yeah, And what I didn't know is that a lot of the neighboring countries have the same problem. But we're hoping that Qatar does something and then that will lead the way for everybody else.

Well, Mike, thank you so much for your time. This was so great talking with you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate this, and again I appreciate you getting up early. Whether the cats will up or not.

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