Episode 33: The Counterfeiter + Open House + Identity

What Welcome to the Life and Times of Captain Barney Miller podcast. I'm your host Mike White joining me is the rookie mister Chris Dass you. I only made enough money to get me through the day. It's not illegal if you do it that way. I've been told that is from what I understand.

One hundred percent that's correct. We are talking on this episode about three of the classic Barney Miller episodes from season five. We're on episodes nineteen, twenty and twenty one, the Counterfeiter, which was directed by Maxwell Gail. That guy's name before? Does he?

Is he on this show? He might be? Oh? Okay, who does he play? Joe Howitz?

Oh? Interesting? It spelled just like a sounds because I haven't had a we haven't had a Polish name joke, and like forever feels like geez, I'm surprised. I was. I was at Goodwill a couple of weeks ago and I saw a Polish joke book and I bought it and I was reading through it and I was like, why was I don't I know.

I'm actually glad they don't do it in the show anymore, because, like, is a Polish joke just like a racist joke that could be replaced with anything like oh yeah, like oh I don't like Italian? So so, how many guineas does it take to screw in a light bulb? Like one to hold it and three to rotate the guy? Like? I mean, it's same thing, right, But yeah, there should be more like bigotry in this show, I agree, like those five guys making popcorn?

Yeah exactly. Written by Ryan Holduigi, Frank Dungan, and Jeff Stein. This one dropped February eighth, nineteen seventy nine. We also have the episode open House, which dropped February fifteenth, nineteen seventy nine, and Identity, which dropped March first, nineteen seventy nine, those of course being directed by Nome Pitlick, who, other than Max Gale coming in late in this season with some directing gigs, he's our man for a season five. My gosh, yeah, nom Pittlick.

Just I mean again, we obviously know thanks to Otto Bruno's book and just again doing research how involved he was in the show. But one hundred and two episodes, Wow, that's so many. It's so many for a show that has like how many episodes? Like up like five hundred. No, not that many, right, we figured that out when we took this task on.

I don't remember what our sentences. It's one hundred and seventy one episodes. Wow, But at least with this does not feel like it's shore. Especially with these three episodes, I felt like they're pretty strong. What was your opinion, Chris, Yeah, I mean, look, they all at least the first one and the last one feel kind of saying me, like again, it's like and you know, I mean, obviously the show's format can feel kind of stale from time to time because it's old.

People come into the precinct and then what happens. I don't need you to do something, but likelihood is we're not going to leave and other people are going to come in, so like we know that that's the setup most of the time. I mean there have been times where like, oh, somebody got shot at or somebody got shot or somebody's in the hospital. But most of the time everything is so precinct found that like they really have to change it up with the kinds of people that come in. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As a counterfeiter come in to the precinct, yet no, somehow season five and we finally had this. That's that was what I was driving at to this point. It's like, it's surprising that they've got as far as they have, almost to the end of the sixth season without having a money counterfeitter. And the character that they have is interesting. I mean, he would make fake money, like he's you know, he's such an interesting and weird little character obviously, and you know, yeah I would really so I would read that reader's Digest story, that's for sure, right, I love that about Harris.

He's like, this is the most interesting man I've ever met. All right, Yeah, Jaye pat o'mali who had been in this show I think at least once before, and he's going to come back at least one more from what I remember. Um yeah, season two, season five, season seven. So he's like a cicada. He just comes out every couple of years, does Barney Miller, and then goes away.

But you will remember, of course, Chris that he was a driver of one of the Gumball rally cars. I was about to say, people my age should know him as the voice of half of everybody in all of the six these Disney stuff. I mean, oh yeah, Alison Wonderland Jungle Book, and I mean he does like, UMD what one of the villain voice in one hundred and one Dalmatians. He plays Jasper, right, the butler. I think, well, I don't know, or I don't Jasper's not one of the butler's.

It's one of the two themes. Yeah, yeah, fuck man like that. Yeah, he's He's just one of those like one of those character actors like who had an off screen and on screen presence, and he's great. But I mean, let's not kid ourselves. This episode has one of the best Harris and Luger interactions where Luger walks in covering his eyes Gaso inspector.

Yeah, Like, what the fuck was that? I was just I watched it like three or four times and being like this has gotta be ad lived because Ron Glass like looks at him and he's like, it's factor, and it's like, what the fuck it? Like they have never had an interaction like this up until this point on the show, probably never will again. I mean, Luger kind of has this blase attitude towards everybody else but Barney in the precinct, like you can kind of tell that it's not that he doesn't want to deal with them, but they're just kind of like there. I think he probably hates Dietrick, but that was such a weird interaction from the two of them.

Like so, but I liked it because it just felt so off the cuff. Well, it is so odd to think of the dread that we used to have when Luger would come to the precinct and now him coming back from his heart attack, so we've got some overarcing storyline, right. I was surprised, what's that all about? And he comes in and everybody is so happy to see him, and he is so happy to see everyone. I mean they're practically just proud him and backslapping, and it's like, wow, this is a Luger I have really gotten used to.

And I was so happy now when he showed up in this episode and he's he's really good. I think the kind of the gags with him maybe overstay. They're welcome little bit. But I'm glad to see him back. Obviously.

You know, it's weird that the show has like carry over storytelling. It's not been something that the show's necessarily been interested in doing. I mean to be fair. Well, that's the thing I would say, Like to be fair, Yamana was written off the show, but he wasn't, no, like they. I keep thinking back to that because you know, it's one of those things where when you think about previous episodes of this show and you have to listen to them, or you do listen to them, you'll notice that we talk about that.

You know, we talked a lot on that episode, the Jack Sue episode where he was like he could have left, and like, now, it really feels like such a missed opportunity because I think we're I mean, we're one episode away, but he's passed away at this point. Oh yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I think he I think it was pretty quick between when he recorded this last episode and when he passed away, and then it was probably a little bit of time for these guys until this final episode of season five I've aired, right, And that's and that's my thing. It's like, I feel like the presence of Yamana is really missed, and I feel like the show did fumble writing him out of it because they did know he was sick, because they I mean, I guess did they correct me if I'm wrong or remind me because my memory is not serving me well at the moment.

How did they how did they deal with Chano go Away? They haven't no remember he uh his name came like a throwaway line. Yeah, like just in our last episode. Okay, that's what I thought. I was like, did they feel like mentioned him right?

Like okay okay? Which was bizarre and it was bizarre. And this one when it starts with Wojoe complaining about Yamana and his his shitty filing system, well, and also like I want to point out what since when do Barney and Wojo have that that relationship? Like what the fuss was going on in this episode? Because Barney's like, hey, how's it going on a Monday morning?

Whoa? Joey just like blows a raspberry at it writes like what is so weird? I don't Yeah, it would like some of the interactions with the characters in this episode are strange. They're out of character. I mean, they're not bad, but it's just like, do you know who these characters you're writing?

Or are Jeff Stein and Frank Duggan? Because I don't think Dungan, I don't think you do, Like I don't it's very they were being a little bit more i don't know, like loose with one another than they normally are looser, as looser as characters, right, And I'm not saying that they're all stogy, but they're not this like loose with one another and kind of like hamming it up. They're like, I don't know, they're halfway to corpsing, like I mean, I mean they are, like that interaction between Ron Glass and James Gregory is weird, Like it's good, but it does stand out as like what yeah, And that's kind of this whole at least the whole first part of the episode very feels very just like totally strange.

Well, I'm trying to remember because Levitt is in all of these this week, and I'm trying to remember if this is the one where he keeps trying to have a conversation with Barney and he doesn't and then he never ends up having that conversation. I think it is. Yeah, Okay, that was just strange. I mean, really, there is there's so much discussion of the actual characters that we only I think we only have an A and a B story in here. We've got a return of mister Becker, who we've seen several times on this show, and the running gag is how often he gets robbed and consols constantly wait is this no?

He sorry, Becker, Sorry, I'm mixing up episodes. Becker is the one that brings in the phony money and then he gets very angry when he's not paid for being a good citizen. You're telling me that I lose the money that I gave you. Yes, that's how it works. Yes, yeah, so that he's just like, well I just passed it off to some other schmow And yeah, I think Dietrich has a good line about how there's you know, no just rewards for anything, but of course he says that did a much more flowery way.

Well, and then to your point, the B storyline is the husband who is upset that his wife has gotten plastic surgery. And right, it's not much of a storyline. No, it's kind of dumb frankly. Yeah, Well, the word I would use is it hasn't aged. Well, it's just like like your wife went and got plastic surgery, Like what a weird thing to care about?

Like he wants the cops about it, Like, well, I guess he didn't know the cops for her. He went to the cops for the doctor who did it, who disfigured his wife quote unquote, No, he they got pulled in because they were having a fight. Mm oh okay, yeah, I wait. I thought he was okay, But it was because he was mad because he thought he disfigured his wife. Right, exactly right, which is like, correct me if I'm wrong.

But there was an episode similar to this that wasn't there something else? Oh it was the it was the guy who was mad that his wife was following like the guru right or no? Right, I there was, But there was also one where it was wasn't was it Doris Roberts was the one that was in trouble or she was the one that was upset, But there was another one. And then there was the one with a guy with the gold as well, like they've done they do this, yeah, and they do this a lot in the show where it's like, oh, we're gonna have like a spouse come in and the other spouse has been taken in by something or someone, so right, it feels like old trodden ground. Yeah.

Yeah, barnie S marriage counselor is kind of an odd position for him to be in, but he does that well because he's all about this mediation kind of stuff, right. And I think it's in a later episode that we're going to talk where Dietrick does the I did the old so and so routine, which is one of Barney's specialties. Well, and Dietrich in this episode, um kind of kind of just hang out making jokes again. Yeah, yes, luger Lugar gets a little frustrated with him upstaging him, stealing his thunder. Yes, yes, at least Dietrich doesn't say agones.

My god, l god, what was that about man going back to live it real quick? I just remembered, like there's a weird close up of him for a while where he's making a face, and that was what really set me off, because I'm just like, Okay, he really wants to talk to Barney. But then it just never resolved, I think in the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, that is that is this episode. This is These are some pretty Leavitt heavy episodes.

Yeah, at least the now well, yeah, the next two. I mean this one is the This is the lightest of the three with Levitt because he is front and center in a lot of ways in the last episode, and then he's a constant present in the next presence in the next one. Um, this appearance here of the upset husband. I love Jack Riley. I forgot that he was in the Oh gosh, what was the earlier one that he was in.

He was in a really good episode. Um. I think he just was part of a crowd basically, might have been like a whole apartment building was complaining about something. Sure, but I was so taken aback by him having light hair. I'm so used to the character he played in a Bob Newhart show, whereas hair was like pretty much jet black.

That's my memory of it, and that he's super blonde. And this one, I remember him as the h He's one of the soldiers in uh oh yeah, Industry of the World, right in the chariot behind them when they're when they'd like the giant joint. We've got to got to got to get grooven that. I know that's not everybody's favorite mel Brooks movie, but I love that movie. Hey, there's some great parts to it.

Yeah. I mean, he's also in space also that, but he's also in Spaceballs. I'm pretty sure, yeah, no, I'm sure you're right. I think he worked pretty regularly with with mel Brooks. Wow, wouldn't you Yeah if I could?

Yeah right, they check and pretty fun job and mel Brooks exactly well, weren't. I mean a lot of the dudes in this show were in I mean, oh yeah, I mean Ron carry right, I mean he worked a few times with Brooks, right, because he's in History of the World as well, and then Landisburg. Ever, I feel like Landisburg had to him, right or no, I don't know. You know. That's the thing, Like there are certain actors where I remember them a lot after they did the thing that they were famous for, Like, um, well, Gopher from Love Boat became a senator.

But I'm thinking of like the Doc from the Love Boat. He showed up constantly and every other things. But every time I saw him, of course, my first thought was, oh, Doc, Okay, you know what Steve Landisburg is in randomly that I now think about, fucking He's in Forgetting. Sarah Marshall as Jason Siegels died at the begetting of that movie, right, so weird, Like, and I haven't seen that movie in the longest time, but now if I visualize that scene, it's totally Steve, like old Steve Landisburg. Yeah, just like hanging out.

It's yeah, it's it's weird because like seeing these actors out of context of this show, like I don't know, like I feel like I've spent so much time with them. It's like David Dukovney and Jillian Anderson, It's like I can't really see you doing anything else. Like it's there's such distinct characters, even with someone like Ron Carey who Levitt, you know, come around on, Richard if you're listening. God, we'll never live that down, Beau. I mean, we couldn't not like him, because what we're gonna do suffer through another three seasons of this show.

I hate this guy. It's terrible, Like, come on, guys, we're not We're not that bad, right, No? No? Yeah. Or Susan Davis as Lisa Lovell, who they eventually take off her dark glasses and she's got all that I make up, you know, or you know, supposedly bruising around her eye is right, What a thankless role she had in this Yeah, given about absolutely nothing to do, just you know, just have two black eyes.

Yeah, because I guess that's what a nose job, right, is that what that is? That's what that is, right I think? So? Yeah, Plus she had the bandage across her nose like um Elliot Gould did in California. Split right.

I just always I always think about like, that's yeah, that's the that's the that's the nose job thing is for whatever reason, like they break your nose, which sounds awful, yeah Jesus Chris. And really other than that, I mean, like I said, we have h Harris really going nuts over the counterfeitter once he comes in, and it's a pretty good surprise. Like the when they brought up at the beginning that the counterfeitter was paying for staples like bread and milk and eggs and things like that. I was like, Okay, that's that might be some sort of like some maybe that gives counterfeit money to homeless people, right and they you know, buy the staples or to underserve people. But yeah, I was very surprised when it ended up being our old friend, the old Britt shambling in here.

And then yeah, Harris just really excited to speak with this guy with you know, dollar signs in his eyes of selling his story well, and they keep pushing that with Harris too, and that's like, it's it's becoming very apparent that this is another overarching storyline that we're going to be seeing that's going to reoccur because again, like which I'm perfectly fine with because it's not it's not it's not been a quote complaint unquote, but it has been something where it's like, well, I would prefer if there was at least some of that, And it's clear that that is where this is going. And I don't know if this is what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of this end of this show Harris is an author like or like writing like like Michael Connolly style, where he's like writing like cop books like I wouldn't like makes perfect sense, like perfect sense.

I think it's called Blood on the Badge. Oh my god, that's great. Yeah, yeah, that definitely fits very well. Yeah, And then what is the thing at the end of this So Luger comes in, he's talking about Agones and that he's thinking about popping the question to her, and then he comes in later on and it seems like he's drunk and he's singing I'm getting married in the morning from my fair lady. But he's not drunk.

Great it was his medication. I don't Yeah, they don't make it clear like there's like something wrong with him because he's like, oh my money, my heart. It's like your heart what like right, like you had a heart attack, so like yeah, like yeah, you're heart but like I don't, Yeah, it's super I don't know, Like it was weird because if I felt like him getting married got lost in the shuffle, or him having a heart attack got lost in the shuffle, of him having a fiance, because like that kind of comes out of nowhere because it's like, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm still engaged. It's like wait, wait what what aren't you also just have a heart attack? Like yeah, it's you know.

Luger was good for the jokes, but I feel like his storyline, like I said, it just kind of went in circles, like it didn't. It didn't feel like it had a lot of purpose, and but yet they were trying to like further him along as a character clearly well. He even gets the last line of the episode, I think, which is talking about how he told Agones to be at the precinct at six o'clock. It sounds like Barney's going to do some marriage counseling for them. It sounds like, right, well, yeah, Barney, uh, I'm I mean I know that, you know, in the next episode we're going to talk about Barney and the Barney and the will they won't they apparently, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't I mean, didn't Otto let the cat out of the bag that they actually never end up divorcing and they just Liz just goes away and I think you might see her like in the finale or something.

Yeah, but I kind of forgot yeah, yeah, because I was following the storyline of the of the series as well, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, he and Liz they're going to get back together, and then they do. Yeah, and that's all they wrote. Yeah. On that next episode, we were talking about open house, right, and again, well, this one seems to have a little bit more stories going on than the previous one, but really, so much of this is well, it's two things. It's this idea of having an open house for the neighborhood, which just seems weird, especially because we know they're on like an upper floor, So I don't know why it's not just the uniforms downstairs that are doing this.

Now, go about that for a second. So this is a weird thing. They always show the door right and then there's a stairwell. Yeah, did they not tell everybody to walk out the door to the right as opposed to out the door to the left, because why are they walking out the door? I know this is like a cinema sins thing, but like it's weird because everybody keeps doing it.

I'm trying to figure out spatially what's going on in like this building. So they're on the second they're on not the first floor, so you have to go upstairs to get to them. So they're in a building that's tall enough to have an elevator. Then I don't think they have an elevator, So what are people walking to the left for. Then when they exit the precinct, wouldn't they walk to the right and down the stairs.

You're talking about the main entrance right right that door that everybody walks through. You see like a stairwell going down and people always go well, it depends. Like in this episode, the three homeless gentlemen go to the left. That's like, but aren't they leaving? Like, It's just it was something I noticed, and like, again, I wouldn't notice it if not for the fact that there's this giant stairwell in the background.

Wow. You know, I've never really thought about that. I've always had in my head that if you left the office and you went to the you could go straight across and there'd be another door and then another area inside of that. Or if you didn't go straight across, you could come out and go to the left and there would be a stairwell right there going down. That's really odd.

Yeah, it's just just like something I noticed. Again, I think I noticed it in this episode because there were like a lot of there was a lot of foot traffic in and out of the precinct. Oh yeah, yeah, well, and yeah, I'm curious as far as was it just you know, we are off stage now and you just go whichever way you want to go. I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think you're right.

I think that's which. Again, like it doesn't break it for me, but it's like if I if I were them or someone I mean, if I were Danny Arnold, who apparently was ran a fucking tight ship. I'd be like, you always go to the right like, so again, maybe that's not the case, but it was just weird because like, where are they going? So I just wanted to ruin the show for everybody once again, because I'm the person who notices shit that nobody else noticed in fifty fucking years. Apparently, that's what it feels like.

It was just like a weird thing I kept noticing in this episode, specifically that in that fact that young Chris Lloyd looks like Jeffrey Dahmer. Oh boy, yeah, yeah, he kind of reminded me of a friend of mine. So I don't know about Dahmer, but yeah, I was so happy when Christopher Lloyd showed up in this. Oh and oh sorry, before we move into that, I'm just going to put this out there to the Barney Miller fan community. Where's the three D models?

You know, I've gone through the Overlook Hotel. I want to go through the entire twelfth Precinct, so just let's let's see that. Anyway. Yeah, great to see chrispher Lloyd. He's kind of a surprise in this because he's one of so really we've got the storyline of Barney kind of getting back together with Liz.

That's just like very slight inside it there. But then you've got more the whole idea of him having paid for this apartment and paid in advance, and so then when he leaves the apartment, he thinks he's going to get the rest of the rent back for the mon I mean, does Barney. Barney is very out of touch if he thinks that he would get the money back. I mean, landlords are not going to give you any money ever. I mean I'm surprised there, and that's just like, oh your security deposit, Yeah, that's gone too.

Yeah. It was super weird because he's like, oh, I don't know, I paid ahead and it's like they're not going to refund you. No, Well, is it is it an apartment or is a hotel? I thought it's one of those first. Isn't that one of those like pay for hotels?

Like that's what I thought, like a weekly rates seventy nine dollars plus kitchenette, you know something like that. I yeah, I thought I heard hotel at first, and then later I thought it was apartment. So yeah, I mean, if I were him, well, depending on how it looks with Liz. It's just really, if there's a chance you get the hotel, if you're you know, if you're If not, you're going to find a month to month or signing a year at least and take your chances. It makes more sense that it's a hotel, because a hotel would not give you your money back, right right, Well not with an apartment though, yeah, well I mean they might.

I mean it depends. I feel like an apartment. Well it's a New York though, so yeah, fuck you, it's the seventies. But this is lench to the landlord time here. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair.

But I I okay, So, like you said, we knew, Otto said, hey, you know Barney and his wife were going to get back together. That's going to happen, you know, just understand that. I guess I should have just assumed it was going to be this something really banal a phone call. I mean, we knew we weren't seeing her. But it's like, I'm getting back together with Liz, and it's like nobody cares, right, what does this have to do with anything?

Which is so funny because most of the time are like salivating for details of people outside of the precinct about with this one, it's just like, hum, don't care. Yeah, you got your suits. Must be nice to be able to carry your entire wardrobe in one hand. Yeah, right. It's just bizarre to me because I was like, well, here's the thing, Barney and Liz haven't been together and that hasn't really affected the story.

No, they're gonna be back together and it's not going to affect the story like it affected the story. And as much as they had to take time out of telling any other story for the show to cut away to these like side plots, because they've never been the main plot of any of these episodes, the like Barney's marital stuff has never been the focus like Wojo's They you know what, Let's let me fucking float this out there. Why the fuck was Wojoe's Girl a two part episode when Barney is the one who actually has a relationship that maybe the audience might care about. Well, I remember Otto was saying that that was a pilot. I know, but like I mean again, like I know that it was a pilot, but my question still stands, like why not give Barney two episodes to deal with the Liz stuff and then be done done with it, and then the audience never has to worry about that character coming back.

Yeah. Well, I mean their situation is as serious as Merit's the lack of jokes in Wojoe's Girl, you know, Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah, this one, this episode I have because it's odd because there's definitely a lot of Harrison Dietrich in the next episode, but in this one there's a lot of Harris just having a real hard time being around Ditrich. Like anytime Dietrich comes anyplace and starts to talk, Harris just right out of there, really showing just his distaste for Dietrich, right, which say, Dietrich's pretty obnoxious in this episode. Yeah, well, and that's the thing.

I mean, I feel like we find him entertaining, but if that were like a real person in your real life, you wouldn't oh boy, yeah right, Like you just someone who is like constantly everywhere all the time telling you how smart he is, Like yikes. Yeah, yeah, there's there's a real missed joke in this episode. Because one of our bigger storylines is this whole thing about this arsonist. There's a doctor who is has a patient and is, uh, you know, the patient is this Arson and we talked about how the patient is Christopher Bloyd. The doctor himself, I'm trying to remember it is Alan Miller, Alan Miller, who I have seen a million times but did not pick up on his face.

I don't know what was going on, if it was the beard or what. Most of the time I remember him with a mustache or a clean shaven, but the beard just threw me off. Man, he's pretty good. I do like that interaction between him and Dietrich at the end where he's like, you could be a good psychiatrist if you just had the patience, and he's like, later, but that's the thing, that's the joke. I was waiting for him to say, I don't have any patience.

I was waiting for that too, thank you, thank you, Okay, now I know what you were driving in. They went one way with the joke that I was expecting them to go the other way with right, And I don't think that the way they went was as funny as the way that was in our head. Patience not patience, right right? Yeah. I think yeah, Dietrich is a bit much in this episode, but I think it kind of has to be that way for the next episode to work.

I think you're right, which is great that you know, we are really having these arcs here. We are not just one and done with this stuff. I mean, this show is very interesting. I think it started off more one and done with each episode, but has really started to grow into these what are the relationships? Who are these people?

Who are the people in your neighborhood? To quote Sesame Street, because you do get these recurring people coming back, like I know, we you know, we just saw Christopher Lloyd just a few episodes ago, and okay, he was not Vincent Carew. But we are getting more and more of these people that show up. Like again, John Dullaghan is in this and we just saw him a few episodes ago, but unfortunately he was a different character. I like him as Ray the homeless guy a lot.

Yeah. No, he's he's really good. He's he's really good. Also was in a little show called Missus Colombo. Oh yeah, was in an episode of that Nightmare.

Uh, he's great. He's great. He's really good. He's got a great face. He looks he looks like a he looks like a great he looks like a great homeless person like him and the rest of those dudes Carmen Philippy and Dave Dave David Fresco, like they look like homeless guys, proper homeless guys.

Carman Philpy. I mean, for me, his most famous role is playing a homeless guy. He's the guy in the train with Peewee right right right. I didn't realize too that he's the guy in Beetle Juice who says, how do I look? Oh, I'm feeling a little flat and he's run over by a car.

Right. Oh, the dude and the dude and the dude in the underworld, like the paper guy right right, the message. I guess he's like the messenger, the guy who's like on the line. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he should I shoot him down the lot. Yeah wow, yeah, he's he just has that great hangdog expression.

God. Yeah, yeah, what a face this guy has. I mean, this whole show is great for faces. And like even with you know, Christopher Lloyd looking very different than he does now. I mean, he was on the Maindalorian just like a couple of weeks ago, and here he is showing up so many years before, and I love he's just basically giving like all of these speeches when he shows up and just talking about his past and injecting his past into everything, like oh why why didn't they say this?

And he was just so great. I mean, Chris, I feel like, for me, Chris Lloyd is at his best when they just let him go. And like he has I don't know, he has like a certain kind of energy that I feel like is best untampered with, if that makes sense. I don't know, Like there's there's a reason why things like Back to the Future are remembered so fondly, and one of them is obviously Michael J. Fox and just the movie.

But also like Christopher Lloyd brings a weird, a weird energy to that character that only like he is one in like he is indistinguishable from his character of Doc Brown as far as I'm concerned. He always has that energy and it works. It kind of always works because it's just he is a very good actor, one of the I mean one of the best actors frankly, like fucking since seventy five, ma'am, Like since one Full Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Yeah, yeah, And of course we should probably talk about Father Malone's show where he talks about Taxi, right, which is the show that he more or less cut his teeth on, Like he was a main part of that show, right, Yeah. Yeah, though, I gosh, I gotta go back and listen to Father Malone's podcast and watch those episodes, because I don't think he was as prominent at first, and I think it was one of those Oh this guy really works, but it could be completely wrong about that.

He's only an eighty four of the one hundred and fourteen episodes, so interesting. Yeah, that's a show I have not seen, I mean similar to this show. It's and I mean coming out at the same time, similar vibe. Kind of surprising that this show and that show never had a crossover. Oh, that would be something.

Well, I mean they're both taking place in New York in the late seventies early eighties, right, I mean at some point, wouldn't Chris Lloyd have been like on this show, probably going to work on Taxi, Like, wouldn't it have been? Right? Like? Yeah, but in this he's so clean cut. And then you look at Jim Ignatowski and his hair is just always in disarray, right, right, that's that stun look on his face.

Whereas this character is like the super clean, cut upstanding guy who didn't even he asked a woman on a date, didn't get the date, but he asked the woman on the date, and you know, the psychiatrists like, you're making progress. He is a He is a stereotypical neurotic that is also an arsonists like he It's it's very similar to the character he already played on this show. But instead of being kind of like, I don't know, I rate because he was irate with Barney as that character, this one he's just kind of like seemingly irate with himself. That's right. He was the vandal, wasn't he.

Yeah, because he was the one that was like, you know, I lost everything because you gave me like a parking ticket or something, right, you ruined you ruined my life. Yeah, there was all that, but that was but that was more irate. Here, he's just like very calm and angry with himself that he was, you know, unable to withstand his urges to light shit on fire apparently, yeah, yeah, and and properly angry with this therapist for breaking patient confidentiality. But to Barney's point, there were people in danger by all of these fires, so he had every right. I think within the AMA guidelines, he was in the right.

But the question I have for you is would you be eating pat out of a fucking can that Levitt bought from some odd damn bodegaser because you know, I wouldn't. And he doesn't even know what flag Ras is and I'm just like, yeah, well I didn't know what pete is. And then Dietrich went into the fog Ross stuff. Yeah. I love the way Dietrich says, yeah, I think, hey, that is not that line.

Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, he's so good, even though he was a little much in this he yeah, he's always so good. I mean, but here's the thing, and we haven't really mentioned him a whole lot in this episode. Levitt is in this episode, and he's pretty good as well. Yeah, him setting up that banquet, and really that's the Some of the best jokes of this is just that it is this open house that no one is showing up for and then Ray, this homeless guy walks in, very out of it kind of guy.

Kind of reminded me of ja Ignatowski a bit, but uh yeah, just once he finds out that there's this free food sitting out there, and how long there are open and all this. He goes back out and gets two of his buddies and then they come in and they just start grazing on that, and I'm glad, like Levet like snatch some food away at first, but I'm glad he wasn't just like, Oh, get these homeless guys out of here. So the show is pretty progressive. Oh yeah, yeah, Well then, especially when Barney he's still so mad at that apartment slash hotel manager that he just is like, oh, here you go, guys, here's the key to this apartments. It's free for the rest of the month.

And I'm like, what kind of damage are these three homeless guys? And who knows, it's probably gonna be way more than three by the end of it. What kind of damage are they going to do to this place? I mean, is it gonna be like a hoarder's house kind of thing, like bags grocery bags filled with feces or something. What's happening?

I more envisioned like scenes out if It's always sunny, where they're like, there were three homeless people blowing each other in the back of my car that I left on the street and they broke into That was just like, that's more what was probably going to happen, just homeless people just fornicating, which is fine, who gives a shit. Don't do it on the street, do it in a hotel room. Is that like a special kind of Lemon party, a Levitt party. They all have to be short men though, and look like Ron carry. We need to buy that website Levitt party dot com if you know what that like.

I don't even want to explain what the references in reference too, because it is so hilarious. I just want someone have to go look up what Lemon party is. So yeah, enjoy all of you who go and look it up, and you're welcome in advance. But that's what I imagine that was because again, like always Sunny makes that joke in there, like hunt unto the Homeless episode, because that was one of the reasons because they were like, yeah, my car got broken into, and they were like homeless dudes blowing each other in it. So yeah, I mean it's funny, but at the same time, like Barney, I hope, I hope you paid in cash because otherwise, like you're about to be on the hook for a hotel room that gets trashed by three guys who don't care.

Yeah, oh boy, be back next year. I bet you will. I'm glad that our minds I'll go to just how much are going to destroy this place rather than oh, these nice homeless men are going to come in and they'll put on the bathrobes and you know, have some champagne or like trying to think of some sort of like you know, any Murphy type situation in cop Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing. It's like, at the end of the episode, everybody's like, I would have done the same thing, Barney, and it's like why, Like the altruism I understand, but like it feels like Barney's making that decision out of altruism, and then everybody else in the precinct is like, you were fucking doing that to trash that room, and he's like the spite, Yeah, well, he doesn't outright say it either.

We get no shot of Harris eating Pat out of a can. Yeah, I don't. I just don't feel like he would do that. I think so either. I mean I was not surprised when I saw Woe Joe stuff in his face at first, and I'm like, Okay, that makes total sense.

But yeah, Ron carry Harris eating pete out of a can. No, it doesn't jive with the character. I mean if it was caviar, caviar in a can is you know, I don't think that they pack that any other way unless it's you know, rapid in a banana and a leaf and hand deliver it or something. How do you think people eat what? Yes, that is, yes, that is how people eat caviar.

Like a small child just walking up to you and they got a whole pile of banana leafs. They got all of these uh sturgeon and they just transit. Where are you traveling in the world that they're doing this, Oh, dar Russia where there's jungles in Russia where they have all the banana leaves. Climate, the tropics of Russia, got it? Okay, Russia has many climates, my friend apparently.

Yeah, yeah, no, our our minds did go to the same place of the homeless, homeless men destroying that room, because that was what was going to happen, Like Barney, what are you kidding yourself? Like, hey, whatever, he's going back to Liz. Okay, yeah, yeah, I got my suits in a bag and I'm all set right. So with the next episode, Identity, another one where I you know, like I usually break these things down by the ABC stories, it feels like there's just kind of like an an, A B and not too much of a CE. So again, though, I liked this episode and I think this might be the strongest, and I think a lot of that falls on don Kalfa and David Klennan.

I agree. I mean don Kalfa, I mean, come on, right, he's so good. Well, and that's the I mean, he's kind of always good. I mean, he's in my favorite zombie movie, Return of Living Dead. But he is what second time on a show or third now, well, he was one of the two guys that actually held the right I remember this in Costage ye and I'm trying to it feels your math feels right.

It feels like he was in here one earlier time. But he really is the star of the show in this one. Yeah. Well, they just were like, hey, do whatever you want, like like let like, they just let him do his thing, and he's great. He's gonna show up five more times.

Yeah. So yeah, season three. Season four was in two episodes in season four, So he has been on here three times before this, so would you say five more? After three more? Three?

Three more? Okay, I didn't realize how many times he's been on it up until this point. He's been on it more times than I remember exactly. So yeah, his fourth appearance here, Yeah, doing a great job. And of course as soon as he shows up, you're just like, all right, this guy is way too too nervous.

And I was wondering, Okay, what is this guy's secret, because you know, he's sitting on something, and then he starts to spout all this stuff about how he lives in North Dakota, and I'm like, this guy lives in North dakotas to heaven. If you miss your flight to Billings, Man, there's not another one for a while, Like, what the hell are you talking about? I thought he had maybe like cocaine up his ass or something. I was just like, why is he so nervous and has to make this plane? Well?

Why? Because well, David Clinton will tell you why. David Clinton looking a lot more like he's going to look in the thing than we've seen him look before, because he's shown up on this show multiple times as well, he was the guru from one of those episodes. I think, well, I didn't he wasn't he also playing this character at one point as well, Like he's already played this character at one point. I'm myf memory serves me right, No, like I thought he's played like a lawyer at one other point on this show.

Yeah. And you know, it's funny because the same thing happened the last time, because I think I was like, is that Clift to Young? No, No, that's not Clift to Young? Who is that? And then I'm like, oh, yeah, it's one of my favorite characters from the thing, the guy who Palmer, who's just like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.

He's great here. I mean I think every I think everybody in this episode's great. Again, it's just the storyline. We've seen it before. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's like that is the case now with this show.

It's like the formula. It's kind of hard to deviate from the formula too far. Wow. So he was on two episodes in season three. There were only like a month apart.

He was Bata Vista, So he was the guru Jeffrey Stevens Justice Department. This is season five. Okay, yeah, no, this is unless Jeffrey Stevens was like a government guy, because then he just plays this Justice Department council chester on Ahan in this episode Howard Spear and Howard Weckler. Oh, they liked him as a Howard. Apparently I must be remembering someone else playing this kind of character.

There's already been. There's already been like a Justice Department guy on this show before. Yeah, there definitely has been. I mean even with the UFO episode that we watched not too long ago, there was a guy who comes in and it's just like I can neither confirm nor deny, you know, right, I like Don Klfa in this episode though, Oh yeah, I mean but obviously like yeah, they kind of give him free reign, which I appreciate because he obviously makes the most of it. He's great and he's got that look heahok, and I love it, you know.

That was the other thing that doesn't really pay off is at one point, Barney's like, you know, where are you from? Like it feels like Barney recognizes him. So I was like, oh, is this gonna be somebody that Barney arrested a long time ago? And I was waiting for him to like run Prince or go to like a bigger database of you know. And then it made sense when it was Oh, he testified, but I don't know why he's back in New York other than just to get away from Billings.

Well, I mean it seems like a good enough reason to me. Yeah, but I mean it sounds like, and this is just me again conjecturing about you know, the layout of the twelfth Precinct. I'm thinking that he testified in a mob case because the way that he's just like, you have to call this number, because people don't act like that unless they know that the mafia is after them. And at the same time, why are you back in New York? Did you come back to get like a blintz or something that you couldn't get in Billings?

Like, of course, you know, what is it? You order ketch egg noodles with ketchup. That's what I was going to say. I was thinking the same things. Yeah, So I mean he's only a couple states away, right, Yeah, he could easily come on out here to You're in again.

I don't know where he's getting the money, but come on out here to New York, get your your your fresh bagels, and then fly on back the billings and oh no, I'm going to rob this place. And that's where you know I talked about I was mixing up the earlier gentleman with mister Cootterman. He's the guy who has been robbed five times, that's who it is. Yeah. Yeah, so again we've got a recurring character with him as well.

Yeah. Well, and that's the thing I mean, it feels like the precinct is full of people being robbed all the time. Oh yeah, yeah, well it's almost like they're not doing their job very well. I don't know, like you would think that if they were doing their job better, there wouldn't be people getting robbed all the time, you would think. Yeah, And it's like store owners too.

It's not like people on the streets, like store owners getting robbed by like weird constantly by weirdos. I think what we're realizing here is these dudes are really bad cops. I'm just kidding. They're not. They're just board desk detectives, like exactly.

Yeah. There was another gentleman who wrote to us actually on our Facebook group, and I also forget because I don't tend to look at our Barney Miller Facebook book very often. But he was saying that I think he it was a cop or is a cop, and said same thing that Dennis Farina said that this is the most true to life police series out there is out there, And I'm like, okay, I'm glad that checks out, man, you know, and I'd rather have you know, we're watching Law and Order and all these kind of things, you know, castle just these cops are always going out and you know, having these chases and shooting in streets and all this kind of stuff. I'd rather have them huging a desk and just occasionally go out when there's a call and you know it's you know, like like this person on Facebook mentions, and Dennis Varina gets to it as well, like the cops aren't always just doing stuff right, right, They have to be there has to be time to file paperwork and do other things like that and have open houses.

Yeah right, I don't think that's a thing, but sure, sure I do. Like how Dietrich saves Harris's life. Yeah, yeah, weird, Yeah, pretty cool. I mean it makes sense now why the last episode was the way that it was yep. Yeah.

And then just the way that Harris is desperate to pay back Dtrich. He does not want Dtrich holding anything over him because he despises this man. And it's like, oh, how about I give you money? How about I give you this, you know, the old life. I've got tickets to the theater, I've got this, I've got you know.

It's just yeah, and and finally ends up giving him what check four hundred bucks. And I like the the timing on that joke, which is like when as soon as Harris is like, name your price one hundred dollars, but then he goes and flushes it. Yeah yeah, or does he? Or does he? He does?

Right? Like yeah, because then it's doubly hanging over his head, right triple, I guess quadruple. I don't know. Yeah, well, you know, if he saved the I don't understand that Chinese prob or about if you save a person's life, your response hosible for them forever. I would I don't want that, that's true.

Yeah, oh man. Yeah, Now if it was the other person, if I saved your life, Chris, oh, I would think you should be responsible for mine for the rest of my life because I'm the guy that saved you. I mean, that could make sense, but I don't want to be responsible for you. For you're You're dumb enough. You fell into that river.

I'm not gonna fish you out every single time. After the third time, Chris, you're on your own. It's fair, it's fair, that's fair. Yeah, I mean, hey, next time, Dietrich. Next time Dietrich and Harris are out and somebody points a gun at Harris, Dietrich is gonna turn around, let him get shut.

I guess, yeah, what would you prefer? Bang? Sorry? I didn't save you? God what?

Yeah, It's it's such a strange conceit because like it wouldn't be played off for laughs, right, Like realistically, it's like I almost died today. I would be very upset. I would be just like, oh my god, like the adrenaline all, oh yeah, but going on Yeah yeah, man, I can attest to you know, almost hitting an animal going eighty miles an hour, you oh geez, it takes some time to kind of cool off, let the adrenaline kind of burn out. So yeah, no, he's just like, let me pay you. And it's like, bro, like that would not be what you would be worried about.

Right now, you're worried about pretty much anything else frankly. But hey, you know it's fine. I like that we get the payoff from last episode in this episode. I do appreciate that because now it makes sense why Harris was so much last episode, or I guess why Harris felt Dietrich was so much last episode. Well, and then when it comes to the Leavitt thing in this episode, I almost thought that this was the conversation that he wanted to have with Barney two episodes ago.

I mean, that's what happens when we're watching these three in a row, and I'm like, oh, wait, no, there were credits. This is the second episode. Oh no, this is the third episode. But him working upstairs, being in the detective's bullpen and being in uniform, he just thinks there's something horrible about that. He doesn't he doesn't think he's going to be taken seriously or whatever.

So what's he do Rather than go home and change. He doesn't want to be gone from the office that long, so he goes and he rents a tuxedo, one of the most seventies tuxedos I've seen in a long time. It is a painfully seventies tuxedo to the point to the point where it has it has the ruffles. Oh yeah, those ruffles are it's a prom tuxedo, right, Like it's what you would wear to prom, all right, Like yeah, he looks like he's going to pick up Carrie and take her right And look, it helps that Levitt's a little short guy, so it looks even funnier. Yes, yeah, but I like that he shows up and it's just like what the fuck Harris just looking at him, being like, oh my god, like, what what have you done?

Don't you mean? Good evening? Yeah, we again, we've come around on Levitt obviously, but he's great. He's great in this episode and in the last one especially, you know, I didn't mention it. There's that moment where the three homeless guys are kind of picking over the food and he like walks over there and grabs the cheeto's bag back.

Yeah, it's like, you son of a bitch, like you ass. He's just he's an ass. But that's okay. Likes that's kind of the energy that he brings. He's just kind of looking out for looking out for himself and I guess nobody else.

I know. That's my perception of his character. He's just very like trying to stay in everybody else's good grace. Is not because he cares about them, but because he cares about how it will affect him as a character. And like that's made me.

That's allowed me to like him as a character as opposed to despising him as a character, because we're not really supposed to like him, I don't think, right. I mean, he doesn't seem miss Maki Valian as he did when he first came on the show, where it's just that whole just sucking up to Barney like crazy. He still sucks up to Barney, but is not nearly as obsequious as it was at first. Yeah, yeah, but it's it is still there and like no other characters really do it anymore. And that's the thing, Like that's why it kind of sticks out because he he is the one who does it and still does it, and we know that he's never gonna I don't think he ever goes into the the precinct with them, right, He never goes in no, right like that, I think he does, yeah, which is like, man, that's we're like in for like three more seasons of them stalling that out in interesting.

That's more interesting than than adding him to the bullpend with them, Right, I kind of wonder if the joke that I thought was going to be going on with Wojo is going to happen with Levitt. Remember how Wojo kept failing as sergeant's exam to become like a sergeant two or whatever it was. I'm almost wondering if Levitt's going to keep failing out of a detective's exam. Interesting that could that could be it? I don't know, like it would make sense if they added him, but at the same time, like they can have him show up and do jokes without it and like being part of the comedy.

And we saw that, I mean we saw that in the last two episodes technically all three even. And I wonder too because now I'm trying to remember what Otto was saying. Because there's that other cop, the one that Levitt was berating before with the big mustache. He's going to become a much bigger role and we find out that he's gay, and so I don't see unless they can't have two uniforms just hanging out up there, Unless they go back and forth between him and Levitt. But I can see Ron Carey possibly maybe putting on that detective jacket.

That would be something, Yeah, it would. I don't. I don't. I would be surprised if they pull the trigger and I feel like the I feel like the uh, the chemistry is good the way it is, Maybe they will. I don't know.

Like, I'm still surprised that you know, they don't replace Jack Sue because we know that they don't, right, I mean, I guess they do with Ron Carey, Like, yeah, you could, you could make that, you make the case that that's what's going on here. I'm not sure I would necessary early agree because I feel like Jackson was a bigger part of the episode episodes than Ron Carry ever has been. They allowed Jack Sue to be a bigger part of the episodes than they've ever allowed Ron Carry to be. Does that make sense? Yeah?

Yeah, I agree? And really Jack Sue. Remember when we first started talking about I think this season. I can't remember how long Dietrich's been around now, but when Dietrich first came on, we're like, oh, his humor is very similar to Jackson's humor, right, so it's almost it was almost redundant a little bit, but they had after a while, I think they figured out how to split those two even more. But they did tread that same dry ground sometimes.

Yeah. No, you're right, You're totally right. I mean that that is kind of that, Like, the expectation of what Landisburg brings is kind of the expectation of what yeah, yeah of what yeah yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean Landisburg was around at least through season three, right, He's been around since season three, so because he eventually took Fish's desk, right, he was Fish's replacement, right, Like, I mean, if you look at the just layout of the bullpen, ron Carey coming up and sitting in Nick's desk is not unheard of. No, I'd be surprised.

I'd be surprised if that's where this ends up going. Given that, again, I feel like somebody would have let that slip at some point by now Richard or Otto, but maybe they haven't. I don't know. It would make more sense if he's just constantly reaching for the brass ring but unable to grab it. I don't think that's a very interesting storytelling device.

But similarly to Wojahoatz, like Mojahoatz hasn't really promoted since like the second or third season to this show. Yeah, and that was like a big thing for a while. That kept getting brought up over and over and over again. Was like he's trying to do this exam and he's trying to get a promotion, and like they haven't brought that up in a long time. Yeah.

Yeah, so they're they're doing a better job with the overarching storytelling than I would have thought they would. But there are some things that they just kind of again it's a product of the time when they were making this show. I mean again, we have actors showing up as different characters. Very few actors who aren't the main characters on this show show up as the same person, right. I think we've had a handful.

And one of them is the guy who's been robbed a million times. I didn't remember what's the guy's name, Kim King, who is on here as the air traffic controller. He was actually in the Thanksgimming story last season. Interesting, Yeah, he's really good here. And so I don't imagine you know about this just because this was it was a big deal for a little bit in the very early eighties, but probably doesn't have any sort of resonance for anybody else past.

Like my age, there was a huge thing about air traffic controllers back in the early eighties, and there was, you know, this whole thing like air traffic controllers are unstable, they're under so much pressure, and yeah, they're under a ton of pressure, and they tried to strike and President Reagan broke the strike. He just, you know, basically said no, this isn't happening and took care of business. A lot of people applauded that. I personally thought it was pretty bad because they're protesting awful work conditions and he just had them all fired. So it seems like overstepping a little bit.

But yeah, yeah, I guess it is the Federal Aviation Association. So yeah, what was that movie Pushing Tin? Is that a movie? Yes? Yeah, they're traffic controllers.

Yeah, wow, good memory, Chris, Who is that? What is that kidnaps Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah, it's Billy Bob and John Cusack. Very similar to Ice. Um, oh god, the Ice Bandits No, the Ice Heist.

I can see the comprom two of them episode. Yeah, I know you did. I was like, I know the Ice bandits, no Ice Hunt, no the ice Chill, Chill limit, Chilling Harvest, Ice Harvest. Yeah, that sounds about right. Written by a friend of mine.

Wow, I'll have to make sure I edit all this. Oh yeah, thank, I don't want. I don't think Scott Phillips listens to this show, but if he does, he's that going to listen to to it anymore. God screw you, Mike White. I didn't know that that was the thing about air traffic controllers.

I always wondered why pushing tin was a thing that happened, though. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of based upon all of that craziness that was going on and just overworking. And of course this guy is completely overworked. And it's kind of like me when I would play you know, Zelda and stuff, and I would just see the characters floating in the air in front of my eyes because he's staring at that screen so much that he sees the dots on that radar output. And he does think.

He does a really good job at being unhinged in this episode now, especially like when he is directing the traffic of the guys and the recinct not you you stay there. Yeah, he's he's really he's really good. I mean, that's that's the thing. I think of the three episodes, this is the best one because I think all of the plot lines kind of kind of coalesce. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

And there's some really good one liners in here too. I think it's Dietrich, who was, you know, gonna send this air traffic controller probably over to Bellevue and he wants to get him a loco motive man. They love sending people to Bellevue. Oh, still still constant. Yeah.

And you know, the weird crossover that we have between The Joker and this show is bizarre. How they get this little skinny guy who looks like Joaquin Phoenix and I like, send him to Belleville and that's where he becomes the joke rat. Yeah. Just think if they had sent him to Barney, they might have fixed him. Yeah.

Yeah, Barney would have been like, I'm your friend, I'm a nice person. You need to be nice to people. Instead, he went and met Todd Phillips and said, oh, go murder some people like Robert de Niro. God, is that what happens in that movie? It's it's been so memorable that i've Oh yeah, you forgot it.

I just remember him getting in a refrigerator and I'm like, okay, cool, I remember some dancing. Oh there is that, And of course the meme. The uh I'm tired of pretending to get it's not meme. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what a memorable film. God, I just want to go rewatch it now like it's a It's a better representation of the seventies New York than anything else.

I know. It's so good. I can't wait for that sequel. Man, Oh boy, yeah yeah. If how Lyndon and Max Gale were in it, I'd be excited.

Can you imagine that if they were just in it as like cameos as police officers. Oh, that would be so good. Police Commissioner Wojahoitz. Oh give me that fucking Todd Phillips. Do that, then I'll care.

Make what I want. That's the movie critic in me. Make what I want and then I'll like it. Yeah. Max Gale is just running around out there, you know, not being used as much as he should.

He's showing up on like your magnum PI Chicago med. But come on, you know, get this guy in some movies here. Yeah. I don't, man, I don't know what the deal is. He was in there, he was in that Blackout series.

That Rammy Malick podcast though, which is super weird. So you'll do that podcast, but you want to do this one. All right? We see you, I mean we don't see you. We'd like to see you, Yeah, we'd like to see you.

That's the shame is that the two main guys from this show are still kicking it and they're still so invested in the industry and working constantly that they don't have time to do press about the show that made their like like they made their book owns on Like, I'm that's fucking pressive. Like we talked about Chris Lloyd in that second episode, right yeah, and him still like him still working? How Linda and Max Gale still working? Folks? Still working?

How Linden is still working? The man was born in earning one, like he has a credit in twenty twenty three, Okay, like in you people. Apparently that Jonah Hill movie that's on Netflix. Oh that's right, yeah, Wow, that's insanity. I might have to watch that me too, just to see how Linden Like what the fuck?

Yeah, I Um, this just gives more weight to me wanting to start that Whiz Kids podcast because that was a major Max Gale moment there, so wasn't Yeah, yeah, he was like the uh if memory serves because it was all about teen geniuses that of course can hack anything, you know, hack the planet. He's basically like their Giles or something, and he's like the older mentor type guy. Interesting. I would watch that and he's rocking a sweet mustache. Okay, now I would really watch that.

Yeah, I think I bought the entire series off of like I offer remember that site. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think I've got it somewhere around here because I was just I was not a real Matthew lebertoe a kick and I was just like, I don't want to watch that again. So it's probably a pandemic thing. I really, you know, joking all joking aside, like we'd love to speak with them, but yeah, yeah, they're fucking they're busy, man Like, yeah, actually busy. I'm not getting round about having a whis Kids story.

So I mean it's it would be if I when I take over, I'm gonna have a forceful takeover of the one season show. Me and Begley. We're gonna take it over and we're going to talk about whiz Kids on there. Maybe I'll allow you to come back as a guest on your own show. Oh are you just asking?

I'll be like, yeah, sure, we do that. That's also like an alternative. I've been begging for a Dead Last episode for years now. So wow, wow, yeah, okay, thank god Barney Miller doesn't only have one season, right, right exactly. Yeah, we're gonna be wrapping up this fifth season in the next episode, Chris, I'm gonna be talking about Pewter Crime, Graveyard Shift and then Jackson a retrospective, and that is going to be really tough to do.

Not looking forward to it, No, I am looking forward to talking about it with you. I'm looking forward. We're going to have Richard had him back on the show, hopefully fingers crossed. Richard came out last season kind of doing that out of a Bruneau thing where he's just telling us everything that we got wrong. But you know, maybe not as politely as Otto.

We're wrong often, So that's okay, Yeah, yeah, that's very true. Say, I think Otto is the one that does it meanly. Richard oh, I get that good cop bad cop mixed up. Otto is the one with the mustache, like he's the bad cop. Oh okay, he sits on the corner of the desk, he never uses the chair.

Yeah, yeah, he's he's from the Northeast, like he said that, no no shit taken attitude. Come on. Yeah. Can you imagine True Detective Season four with Richard had him and Otto Bruno? God, or you know, we put him on a buddy cop show and then we have to think of some really racist things to call them, So it'd be like spaghetti bender and baklava or something like that.

Oh my god, it would actually be the Continuing Adventures of Speed and Browns. Shoot the continue. I'm trying to think of what Auto would be. It would probably just be like I can't even bring myself to say it. It's so terrible, it's so it's so blue god that you know what though, Like, how about True Detective season for how Lindon and Max Gale?

Oh my god, yes, I would watch I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think you can get all weird and fucked up and metaphysical and have these spirals in the sky and then would make sense for me. Oh yeah, remember that show? Oh yeah, remember that first season when Woody Harrelson was just screwing anything that moved. Yeah, that was great.

What you know what, that's a good show. I can't speak to anything else, but that first season is good. Yea god, And this is a pretty darn good show as well. So I look forward to coming back next month talking about those three episodes. And until then, Chris, what are you working on?

Sir? Working on everything that I can podcast wise, and all those things can be found at Weirdingway media dot com, including this show, my my show, The Culture Cast, my other show, Scary Stories We Tell, and let's throw one more show in there, the Bollywood Cinema Club, where Mike joins me from time to time to talk about Indian cinema, which if you're not watching it, you should be. How do I know this because I watch it like every week, folks, and I haven't gotten sick and tired of it yet. And hey, I must have a lot of free time because those movies are three hours. So That's what I'm doing and you can find it all at Weirdingwaymedia dot com.

What about you, Mike, Well, kind of like you, Chris. I've got a show over at weirdingwaymedia dot com. It is called the One Season Show. I'm really looking forward to re latching it with my partner Mark Begley. Should be a fantastic time.

I think we're going to talk about maybe Werewolf. Um. Oh yeah, already done that one. Thankfully you dodge that bullet is that you can do. You can do miss though.

Oh boy, no, that was actually two seasons. Oh god, the fact that there's one season tech chnically, no, I would say fish no, fish was wouldn't even count, would it? No? No, it would not. Wow.

I think I'm trying to remember when enis spun off of Dukes of Hazard. I think that might have been a one season show. We could do the Chano show. This essentially the Chano spinoff show is right. Yeah, East Down sixty five or whatever the hell is called.

I can find that, hopefully it's on YouTube. God. Yeah, you can take the one season show over. It's all years. You can spart into the ground.

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