Von Doom Fest SPECIAL - Spider-Man: Brand New Day

Spider Man, Shiner, friendly neighbor. Welcome, he is ignored. Action is. Welcome, Midnight viewers to a very special von doom Fest. Right in the smack dab in the middle of of our regular coverage of everything MCU on the way to On our Way to Doomsday, they went and released a new MCU film.

In fact, they released a new Spider Man movie, and we just talked about Spider Man. So how fortuitous overall we're talking about spider Man brand new day. It was directed by Destined Daniel Cretten, who was the director of Shang Chi, written by Chris McKenna and Eric Summers, produced by About producer, starring Tom Hollands, Zendeia, Sadie sink in an unnamed role, Jacob Batlon, John Burnhal and I definitely the Punisher, Florence Pugh's in this. I'm spoiling that for everybody. Marissa Tomas also in the movie, flashbacks everybody, and Mark Ruffalo.

This movie just came out, so we are sensitive to everyone's needs. This is going to be spoiler and non spoiler discussion, and we will let you know when we get to the actual spoilers, we will announce it. I'll yell it. I don't know, I'll put up a fucking gong or something, but I want to talk about this entire fucking movie because it has ramifications for everything we've been discussing up until recently. HP.

Hey, was this your first time seeing brand new? It was? I, you know, my customer needs. Where did you see it? Where did you see it?

Oh? I saw it at the Regal Cinema, not a not a very glamorous cinema. In fact, it was rather disappointing because I didn't it was assigned seats, but I didn't get one of the motorized reclining thing. Oh man. That was the only disappointment.

And this whole spoiler, I you know, that's If that's the only thing that disappointed me about this movie, then we've all won. I myself saw it at a random theater here. I'm not gonna name any of because they're all terrible here. I don't vouch for any of the quality of the theaters here in Las Vegas. Can I just say before we move on, like, the quality of theaters overall, and I'd say over the last five to ten years is absolutely abhorrent.

It's no longer do you you know, I think if a movie theater opens, you've got a good window of maybe two years while it's got the new car smell, so to speak, before it just goes downhill. And this place was just no exception. But I will say this, and I know you're going to disagree with me on this. I opted to see Brand New Day in three D. Did you see it in three D?

Probably not? Of course not three D is nothing for me. There's a novel effect for about three minutes at the beginning of the film, and then everything just flattens out For me. It might just be a quirk of my vision, but it really the effect is one hundred percent lost on me. Okay, I thought, for what it's worth, it worked really well in three D, and in fact, I think it felt like some of the shots were specifically engineered for three D, even though I'm sure it was all posts converted.

But I just for anyone out there who's interested, I would say the three D for me worked a gangbusters. Where we were we when the last left Spider Man? That was Spider Man No way home? Oh that that naughty doctor Strange. He wiped everyone's memories so effectively, what we're getting here is a hard reboot of Spider Man in the middle of a film series of Spider Man, and we've kept our lead.

It's kind of ingenious in a way, and I think I kept feeling that throughout the entire film that this really felt like an origin story without having to go over the same fucking origin of Spider Man. Well, they hooked me from the very beginning because we had our traditional Mark Marvell logo at the beginning of the movie, and they introduced it by basically showing scenes from all the pre prior Spider Man movies. But every time you see Tom Holland, he would fade away, giving you this, you know, reminding you that no one remembers who he is. So it's it's like him going in to kiss MJ and he fades away. I don't know about you father him alone, but that immediately tugged at my heart strings before the before a single word had been uttered.

It's attention to detail, and it's this is a flick entirely filled with attention to detail. The neat trick of doing fan service without slowing us down or taking us out of it. All the fan service happens in this opening where we can't kind of catch up to who Peter Parker is now and what his relationship is with Ned and MJ, all the while giving us all the splash panels from all of our favorite fucking comic books from It's sort of insane. Man. It felt up to date, and it felt grittier than we've gotten before.

It felt more real world than we've gotten before. At the same time, some of the more outlandish villains Tombstone shows up in this fucking two seconds. It was so fucking weird. Man. I love that he's threatening to throw Spider Man off a building, by the way, as if that isn't Spider Man's thing.

Right, Yeah, well the thing is brand new. Day is really the first movie that kind of look I loved all three of the prior movies, Let's make no mistake, but this one really gets at the Spider Man that I love. This is the one that he's no longer a kid in school because of the circumstances of the prior movies ending, He's taken on the mantle. He's primarily fighting basically street crime. It's no longer about aliens coming to try and blow up the earth or whatever the case may be.

It's he's living on his own. He's dealing with the repercussions of being and an adult in this world that no longer remembers who he is, and he's desperately trying to get past the memory of his best friend and his lost love. Fantastic. I was grabbed that montage. I was grabbed immediately.

As great as the last three films were, that was Spider Man always in the shadow of the Avengers. He basically was an Avenger for each of those films. He always had that backup, and here it doesn't feel like that, although he now has his own sort of team that he kind of runs with and can talk to and interact with. But it's a whole different dynamic. It feels much more immediate.

Also, I need to mention like this, this movie was not shot in New York. This was shot in London, and yet this is the most New York of all it felt. If you had not if I did not know that it was filmed in London, I would not have known that they did a wonderful job of making London double for New. York, Glasgow, Scotland as well. Oh yes, yes, yeah, yeah, movie Magic Baby, You're right, This one does feel more New York than any of the others, and somehow they nifty tricks each great in every way.

Speaking of nifty tricks, look, we just talked about Spider Man. Everyone knows I love those movies. I think they're really, really good. However, there is a electricity to the action in this film. It's the best action of any of the Spider Man movies to date.

Just I'm going to say that across the board. There's my hot take all of the Spider Man movies. This one felt as close to comic book as you can get while remaining real world in a bizarre sort of mash up. And it felt there was an extra snap to all of the action here where you can really follow the geography of all of the of what's happening in the scene. It never feels like they're cheating by shaky cam or you know, like quick edits to to hide action.

And we'll talk as about a particular thing later on, but I think Destin, Daniel Cretin is just he's the best guy working at the MCU right now. This was this was a superior work, Like this was. A big jump up from the last and I love the last three, and this one's better. Because you know, I won't say it's easy to do any of those action sequences, but it's well known that those are all prevised by the Marvel team and like down to here's the lens you're gonna use when you shoot this sequence, right, So you can still fuck those up, but it's it's easier to not fuck those up. What's harder to do is the human drama of it.

Because for all the action stuff I'm talking about, all of the in between action set pieces, I never felt like I was waiting for a set piece in this movie. All of the human stuff was just as riveting. Yeah, a couple things on that. First of all, this movie felt a lot less like I was watching pixels move across the screen during these action sequences, and it felt more like I'm gonna use air quotes real fights with real people. I know a lot of that is computer aided and probably a great deal of it is CG and I didn't even realize it, but it's my understanding that they had Jackie Chan's stunt team working on this movie, which explains why a lot of the movies have the electricity of a good Kung Fu movie and the sort of the visceral feeling that you get when watching a good action scene in a Jackie Chan movie or Jet Lee or whatever, because at the end of the day, what Spider Man does has the sort of feeling of good of good karate.

He's dodging, he's doing all this crazy stuff. And we'll talk about that scene in a little while, I'm sure, but yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent, Father Blone. The action in this hats off because it just it felt grounded, and it felt, like you said, immediately. Remember when Quentin Tarantino was on the MTV movie Worris and he came out to introduce Jackie Chan, and it kept insisting on calling him Jackie Chan, and like he said it like twenty three times when he needn't have said it at all. He's just there to introduce the guy.

But he just when you see a Jackie Chan movie, you want to be Jackie Chan, like, what is he doing? So terrible? So terrible? But HP, what's the story, Here's what's our plot, what's our what's our what's our what's our situation? One of the things I really liked about this is that it's it's there's all the human drama and all the action, but it kind of works as kind of a detective movie in a sense because what's what's happening is while you have Peter dealing with the after effects of the spell and all this kind of stuff, he kind of stumbles into this plot where there's some being or beings not sure who, they're trying to break into the Department of Damage Control.

We don't know what they're looking for in there, but they're trying to break in and it's some sort of I'm trying not to spoil things here, but if you've seen the trailer, you know that it's somebody who can leap from person to person psionically, and it's Peter trying to figure out who it is, what and what they're after, and he's leaning on his support network to do that. There's a detective name Detective de Wolf, who comes straight out of the comics. By the way, She's fantastic and also, as you said, the Punisher. They become kind of an odd couple of sorts, and I love I mean, I confess I haven't seen a lot of Daredevil slash Punisher on Disney Plus, but I mean Burnhal just inhabits the character.

You don't need me to tell you that. People who are big fans of him. And although it's I understand they watered down the character quite a bit for this movie. He's fantastic. And it's the ease with which these because these two actors, Holland and Berenthal have been working together or in some capacity since Holland was seventeen years old, so there's a history there and you can tell they're enjoying every minute of their time on screen.

So anyway, here's another hot take. By the way, this was an interesting thing seeing this movie so close to The Odyssey, which they're both in as well, and they share scenes in that as well. John Burenthal and Tom Holland are the best things in the Odyssey. Of all the performances in that movie, they are the best. Those two.

Wow, it almost makes you want to see it. No, don't see it. It's terrible, but they're real good. I will say another side note for you. The only thing that distracted me throughout this whole movie is clearly next door to my theater, they were showing a showing of the Odyssey.

So during all these quiet moments, the theater was shaking with that bass rumble, because obviously there's some kind of action scene going on in the Odyssey that I don't know what. That was a little distracting, but that's no reflection on. The movie at hand. The idea that they've watered down The Punisher is kind of silly because whenever The Punisher would show up in a Spider Man comic, and I know because I read them all because I was obsessed with The Punisher during the nineteen nineties, like all stupid, revenge obsessed young men. He never acted as bloodthirsty as he does in the television series.

Anyway, when he's around Peter Parker, I mean, Frank Castle has a tender side to him, and I think that's what this movie is absolutely playing on. And we get it kind of more impactfully than we even got it from him on the show. Just the brief well we'll get to that. But it felt like watching them on screen and doing their thing. It really felt like a Marvel team up that I remember as a kid, and I it's a cliche to say I wanted more of that, because I think the the movie is perfectly fine with what you get.

But and I love the fact that these two characters who are so within themselves and so lonely by virtue of what they've gone through, they're kind of each other's lifeline in a funny way, even though, like I said, they don't agree on anything in this movie. Not it's certainly not their approach to fighting crime. But it just it's so fantastic, to the degree that I can't wait to see this movie again when it comes out on streaming so I can enjoy their interactions again. I found the Punisher to be the funniest part of this movie. Actually, he made me laugh a lot during this film.

Oh yeah, he had it was and I have to say it was a pretty full theater the showing that I saw, And I know they're reporting that, Like I mean, look, the movie made almost a billion dollars globally over the weekend, so people are coming out to see this movie. But that's one of three major action set pieces here in the film. And for the first time ever during a Marvel film, I really felt the passage of the acts. I felt Act one sliding into Act too, and then finally an Act three. They feel like almost three distinct movies and or if you will three issues of a comic book.

If this isn't the most comic book comic book movie of all time, I don't know what the fuck is. Just the the interaction between Peter Parker and Frank Castle, as casual as it is, sort of belies that you know. And yes, obviously all this other media is out there for you to consume, but if this was your first Spider Man movie, it wouldn't feel it wouldn't feel weird at all, Like how easy going everyone is with each other and how known each other is, you know, like I like that there's this weird little network of street level heroes. Finally, at the end the MCU. Yeah, absolutely, and it just it's, like I said, it felt lived in and it's wonderful the way I mean, we're so used to in these movies that because of ja Jona Jamison, like, Spider Man's basically demonized for every single movie, but this one is one of the first that I can think of where he's universally loved in New York.

You don't get any of that he's a menace or you know, I don't know what he's up to. He's a vigilante, he's working with the Police. Essentially in this they're feeding each other tips and talking pretty much daily on the phone about this, that and the other. Thing. That's wonderful to see too, because that's something we really haven't seen before in these movies.

It's like Batman and Commissioner Garden if they liked each other and wanted to hang out. Right, Because she's genuinely the detective is really concerned for well, she doesn't know miss Peter, but she's concerned for Spider Man because she can tell and we can see it because Holland is such a great fucking actor, but you feel the weight of, you know, the burden of what he's putting himself through and not to mention all of the changes that his body is going through, which I'm sure we'll get to, but it there are moments in this where you can just feel the exhaustion coming off of Tom Holland or the character Peter Parker, because he's taken on so much trying to get away from his past. Basically, the first big action sequence when we hook up with the Punisher and we kind of get at what our villain is at is the attack on the Department of Damage Control with a tank during that sort of interlude where we get not introduced, but we're reintroduced because he appears a couple of times in this movie, and that is Mac Gargan finally showing up as the Scorpion.

Michael Mando, if you haven't seen Better Call Saul, everybody please go see Better Call Saul, or. Even Breaking Bad. He was fantastic in that as well. Michael Mando is just fucking awesome and this movie needed more Scorpion. Scorpion When I was little, Scorpion was my favorite Spider Man villain.

I just thought it was such a weird, cool costume. The costume was weird, Yeah, sort of segmented and it covered. He's got like a ballaclava on, like with this green botta club. It was just his weird eyes poking out and this this yeah, this segmented tail, Like what is this man all about? I mean, they give it.

It's a pretty great real world interpretation of this, this like harnessed thing with the with the Scorpion tale again begging the question where the fuck did he get that? Like what what has transpired since since Homecoming? Yeah? True, because he he would have gotten it through uh the Vulture, right that was part of the tech that he developed based off of the recovered technology from the Chittari. But who knows that there are so many random elements still at play in the Marvel universe.

Anyone remember the Power Broker, Remember she was out there? She used to be Agent thirteen, Peggy Carter's fucking granddaughter or his grand niece or whatever. Oh, from the Winter Soldier. Yeah, the Falcony Winter Soldier, that's right. Yeah, that was kind of dropped and never picked.

The what happened to her? Man? She was supposed to be a major player on the MCU. So it was really good to see the Scorpion again, although technically he's the Scorpion, but he's really not the Scorpion. Spoiler.

Yeah, well, no spoiler, because it is what you said. Our antagonist in the film can leap from body to body and possess them, and so Peter keeps having conversations with multiple people as this thing jumps from person to person. Since that cats out of the bag, I don't think that's really a spoiler. Anyway, I did want to mention that when I was talking about the action in this film, it's easy when you have the Marvel team previs everything for you to go do that sequence, right, But a sequence where they do this a lot where the villain is jumping from body to body to body and the camera is never stops moving and it's all just choreography. It looks so fucking cool.

I want to talk about practical effects. It's just people reacting to being taken over and then the previous one falling to the ground. It's a fucking cool man. And they do it a lot. They could have done it.

They do a lot more, and I still would have been okay with it. It was cool, and you know, just a little bit of folly work in the background to convey that whoosh of someone leaping into somebody else. But yeah, it's all it's all choreography, man. Anybody could do it. But it's so tightly uh you know, choreographed and filmed.

And and that actually becomes part of the detective work that that uh Peter does because he figures out through his what's his computer ev played by Naomi Watson. Nami comes into They got these like super like hardcore, really good actors doing all the all of the voiceover stuff in these movies. But he uses his computer to figure out the maximum distance that somebody can leap, and then he uses that against because he never stopped being the brilliant geek that we know from all of these movies, or that Peter Parker is at his core, he's he's a scientist, and he applies that now to fighting criminals on a street level. It's awesome, but let's apply to pressure, some pressure to Peter Parker when we get into the second act, when when MJ and fucking Ned moved back to New York City and now he has to interact with them frequently.

Holy fuck, man, it's Tom Holland. Man, show you see everything on that kid's face. He you know what. I a couple things about that, Like, first of all, Tom Holland at this point is my Spider Man, Like I can't imagine a better fit. The other thing, one thing that I love is that they don't try to hide the fact that he's a little shorter than everybody else, you know, because you see him standing up next to MJ.

And it's clear. Yeah. I just like, for some reason, I appreciate that he's not afraid to be vulnerable in a lot of different senses. But I really think, well, he's somebody who takes the role so seriously and by all accounts, he went above and be on to make this a special movie. The rumor, the legend is that he was on the Odyssey and observing Christopher Nolan and watching what it took to make that movie.

Basically, he basically got back in touch with the folks at Sony and said, look, we need to step up our game. This is how you make a movie. And I know he was involved with the story and the writing, and oftentimes when an actor gets that involved, it spells doom because they have egos and that comes into play. But I get the sense here without knowing the man, that he just wants this to be the best movie it can be for the fans, because it's a mantle that he's assumed. He's now, you know, the third movie Spider Man.

But obviously there's Nicholas Hammond and all the other interpretations and they have come before him. So I well, he's got He's got four solo movies on his own and half a dozen other appearances, so he's Spider Man everybody, just just by volume. Ten years he's been playing this character. So I just think Sony was dealt in ace by getting this guy to be Spider Man because from from Civil War I knew that he was something special and he's only matured gracefully in that role over time. So I can't say enough good things about Tom Holland and what he brings dramatically to this movie.

Not just the physical stuff because he can do the flips and he's believable physically, but boyle boy, when he interacts with MJ and Ned and you see the sadness on his face, you know, dealing with them and all the unspoken things that he wants to say but he just can't say it. Just it they were I'm not afraid to say that. There are moments during this movie where I felt my eyes welling up because it was so it was so heavy, the things that he's going through, and they there's a switcher rue that happens, uh where I was this close to crying and then you realize that it's actually the villain talking. Okay, listen, I fucking bawled my eyes out multiple times in this movie because I'm a big softer, you know that.

And let's talk about that one scene right fucking now, because that's that's the major moment. Look, there's a great action sequence in this in this act of the movie, but this was the whole fucking thing for me. And sorry if I'm spoiling it, but it's a minor moment that it's not giving any plot away or anything, but. Well it's it's minor, but it's it has it's major in terms of the the emotions and what he thinks is happening. And and speaking of Switcheroo, it starts off as kind of the dopiest scene ever where he and MJ are on a roof together and uh, he explains to oh see, he kisses her, and then she suddenly remembers everything, and it's this like almost fairy tale moment, and then it's just it's the villain has jumped into MJ's body.

Once that occurs, all of that person's thoughts are available to them, so now they know everything about Spider Man and use that against him to fuck with him. And that's when I started crying, man, because what that was literally the cruelest thing that could have been done to him. At that moment, he uses the word unforgivable when he's talking to this villain, and it's there's no better word to describe what happened, because the villain used his emotions and his need to get through to MJ against him in the most cruel way possible. And up to that point, I mean I was suckered into it. I thought, like you, the fairy tale moment had kind of come true for him, and maybe there was some part of her that remembered who he was.

And I was like, yes, this is what we've been waiting for for the last whatever we have, four or five years, six years it's been and I just I it was. It was like I went from like this sort of elation and emotion to like, oh my god, they went there. That's fucking cruel. Okay, Another thing going on in the film. This movie is about moving on.

It's about evolution in a way, and that's really present. You've seen it in the trailers. Peter himself is undergoing changes genetically. The iraq Nid portion of his DNA is writing itself and making itself known. He can, now, to his own disgust, make webs from his wrists, like Toby Maguire before him.

We even get a go web scene, like you know, hey, come on, webs, let's go. Let's give me some webs he taught. He references Peter too. He's like, well, Peter two HadAM, let's do this. And you see how clumsy he is because he physically can't use his artificial webshooters anymore.

Just doesn't work. I did not understand that. That felt like a gaff to me where where I don't understand how his body is rejecting the artificial webshooter. Couldn't they just reattached them in a different portion of his body, like they are just a little gun. Basically, I took.

It as he couldn't keep them there because it was too painful, the way that his organic web shooters were sticking. They don't explain it. I agree with you there that there's no real there's no depth. It's a contrivance to get him to use his natural webshooters. It is it is, and conveniently there's a hole in that.

It punches a hole in his costume where the webshooters can shoot out, which doesn't seem to affect their efficacy in any way. But it's a wonderful sequence when he's trying to figure out how to use these new organic webs And I mean it's kind of a metaphor for coming if you will. It's just sort of splatting and going all over the place, and he's sort of disgusted by it because it's puberty. Let's just call it what it is. It's like a metaphor for puberty.

Basically, the web slinging in this movie is par excellence. Man, everything that they did right in every other movie, they seem to have combined into the most breathtaking stuff I've ever seen, the most I'm gonna say it again, immediate stuff. When they go point of view on you really feel there. It's insanity. Yeah, and that part of that is that's where the three D.

I know it's not your thing, but the three D really does sell that. It gives you that, you know, vertigo feeling. But yeah, the web slinging. And I understand that they took the Insomniac Spider Man video games for some inspiration there, because the web slinging and that, I mean, you can finish the game, but then hop I just like to hop back in and just web sling across the city because it's. So much fun.

He's doing these tumbles and he's saving himself at the last minute from hitting the ground. It's all the stuff that you see in the movie, but it's so again it it didn't feel like I was watching just pixels move across the screen. It felt real somehow that in a way that Look, look, I'm not not to denigrate the past movies because some of the web slinging, even in like Spider Man two, that's still really good and it holds up, but it doesn't compare to this. Not at all, not even remotely. It's the previous Toby maguire Spider Man movie is still compared to this, I mean, previous Tom Holland Spider Man movie is still compared to it because this Iraq ned thing is starting to take over to the point where he loses control completely once again, involving poor Macagargin.

Spider seeks out another bit of advice from another superhero. It's another superhero here in the cities. Speaking at the teaching at Empire State is Bruce Banner. And you've seen him in the trailer. You know Hulks in this movie.

We all know Hulks in the movie. Yeah, you know. And I have to say, one kind of bummer is that they spoiled Look, we saw him in it, but they spoiled the fact that the Hulk appears in the movie. And if they had, if they had kept that under wraps, that would have been such a wonderful reveal in this movie because the idea is he and this is right from the comics. Again, like you know, the Hulk never the heroes don't stay static forever.

So what you have is there's something that happened. They don't really explain it, but suddenly now the Hulk is back to being a savage beast that Bruce has to keep tamped down. And so he has these inhibitor things that he wears on his hand to keep him from transforming into the Hulk, and he has some very wise, he gives some great counsel to Tom to Peter Parker. Well, yeah, because Peter Parker wants to create his own version of it, and the idea is that I will Well, what's funny is the inhibitor in Banner's use is it just keeps it at bay. If this thing goes, if this thing breaks, then the Hulk is free to sort of come out.

And I'm no longer Bruce Banner and it's the Hulk and Peter is trying to figure out ways to to pacify the one. The parts of his personality are the parts of his Spider self that he doesn't like and keep the parts that he does, which is not possible. But okay, that's neither here nor there. The interesting part is, and we'll have ramifications in the MCU going forward, is Banner has an inhibitor specific to gamma radiation to keep the Hulk at bay. But what Peter is suggesting is an inhibitor that just inhibits any superpowers, and he goes about making himself one so he can tackle the Spider.

That's a huge problem. I seek how going forward? My Friendtence so does, so does Bruce. Bruce tells him outright, well, what how do you determine what's good? What you what you're inhibiting is good and what's bad?

And he gives him this food for thought, And I had the same sort of thought the back of my mind, like what what's keeping him? What's what's keeping somebody from using this tech to suppress a mutant's power, for example, or or anything that you find undesirable in somebody else. You could put it on Captain America. He'd just be Steve Rogers again. He wouldn't the super Soldier thing would would cease to function, right.

Peter Parker, don't go meddling in affairs that are beyond you. Haven't you done enough? Peter? With doctor Strange, what are you doing? Man?

Why don't you go have Strange give you a spell and take out the Spider portion of you. But that's and that's that's always been one of the more endearing aspects to me of Spider Man through all of these movies is that, look, he's just trying to do the right thing. But because of his naivete and because he up to a point he this was new to him, he fails, and he fails a lot. And I wonder, like you that maybe this is something that will cause problems in the unintended consequences in the future. Maybe it's something he should have obviously, he should have just embraced this metamorphosis that that he's going through.

But yeah, it's it's an interesting dilemma that he's faced with. There. Well, let's back up for a minute, because you kind of touched on this. I assiduously avoided anything that could be construed as a spoiler up till because I saw this on the Sunday after it premiered, so I was in pretty good shape. I was not prepared to see Lena in this movie, and it was a wonderful reveal.

And she's very funny in this So I really dug the fact that, Hey, because look, I and probably ninety nine percent of the people who saw the trailers and followed this movie knew who the antagonist was going to be, and I was proven right. But it was nice to see that the movie could still surprise me in little ways, like having but you know, the now black Widow in the movie in a semi prominent sort of cameo. I like that. Yeah, they really ought to just give her the Avengers as team leader, right. Yeah, she's plugged into everything.

I mean she has, she is a leader. You know, I really loved Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow, but this is a better Black Widow. She well, yeah, I guess, through no fault of Scarlett Johansson, I buy Florence Pugh as Black Widow. I get the world weariness of it, but they also sort of the above it all, sort of humorous take on everything, like she's perfect. She's great, and she's great in this again.

I can't say enough good things about it. Goddamn, we're just going to keep keeping on the love. So look, everything's barreling towards the Department of Damage Control. Clearly something's going on in there. Our antagonists is doing everything in their power to get into that fucking building and reveal whatever the secret is, while Peter is hunting them down and using these services of the Punisher along the way.

And I guess now we're going to start talking about spoilers. The movie's great. I'll sort of wrap it up overall before we do that and just say this is the best Spider Man. Movie easily, And that's a high praise because the other ones were no slouches, but this one is better. The direction is solid, the action is amazing, and the human stuff is really really piercing.

It's fantastic. And all the MCU connections and setups and the usual fold or all that bogs down most MCU movies, it feels of a piece here. It doesn't feel out of place. It just feels like part of the organic plot going on. You know, there's no suddenly we're at Randy's Donuts with Samuel Jackson for no good reason, you know, like this is this is a little more organic than that.

Okay, villain is obviously Sadie Sank has been playing the villain. And then some idiot revealed it on the red carpet and then it's Geen Gray. It's it's it's our not our first X men in the in this universe, because we technically had Wolverine, we technically had a Professor X before. But this is the first this universe mutant. This is our first new mutant without being one of the new mutants.

You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I I called it. I remember I was going in. I saw it. I saw it with my son, and we were talking beforehand, and I said, you know, I think I think this antagonist is going to be Gen Gray.

All the science point to it. He he had a very different opinion on who it was going to be, and I wish I could remember who we thought because it was actually an interesting theory. But as soon as Peter Parker's like has done the search the database and said oh, this is Jean Gray, I looked at my son and I kind of nodded, and he said, yep, you're right. So it was not a shock, because you couldn't the nature of this person's powers as shown in the trailers, the fact that she Sadie sinc obviously resembles some form of Jean Gray with the red hair. I mean, it was to no one's surprise.

No, and I'm however, I'm glad that it reveals, like I don't know, an hour into the movie basically is when we get that revealed. This is a two and a half hour movie, so this wasn't We're just fucking chasing a hooded figure for two hours and then the last half hour, Oh it's Jean Gray. What does that mean? This is as much of Jean Gray's story as it is Peter Parker's story, as it turns out, my favorite portrayal of Jean Gray so far, and all deference to Fanka Jensen, and they go from Game of Thrones. Sophie Turner, Sophie Turner's good for you.

Yes, I remember, I haven't seen those X Men movies, the original X Men movies in a long long time, and I but I don't remember. I mean, obviously if Amka Jansen's fantastic actress and she's you know, obviously beautiful, but I could not tell you anything specifically defining in her interpretation of the character. Because it was bland as fucking milk toast. It was just, you know, there was nothing there. But in fairness, that was our first, their first stab at bringing the X Men and having an X Men movie in a big way, So I don't fault them for that time.

In retrospect, maybe it could have been a little more of an interesting the character could have been written a little better, But in this case, it was what was what's funny. What I thought was interesting was, well, I guess we'll talk about her motivations. I'll get to what I was gonna say. If we talk about the character's motivation. She's trying to save her sister.

She's her sister has the same power. Sarah Gray, her older sister, has been kidnapped by the by the Department of Damage Control. That's the big the actual villain in this movie. What I thought was interesting, and this is just the movies being the movies, is that Gene is supposed to be her little sister, and it's actually in reverse. It's it's it's the case that the girl playing Sarah Gray is something like six or seven years younger.

Oh, how weird because she definitely it looks the dynamic, looks like older sister, younger sister. Yeah, But the thing was, you know, I don't know, I don't know anything about the character in the in the comics, like if if Sarah Gray was meant to be her little sister. But it made me think they could have made her her little sister and it wouldn't have changed anything that she could have been looking for her little sister. Does that matter to you? It doesn't.

I'm just saying, like, for them to put in the effort to make this girl look older than Sadie sink, they could have just said what what? What measures did they take other than they cast an actress who looked older than the one that they cast as the lead. Oh that she says, she's it's her older. Like they didn't use like computer generated effects. No no, no, no no no no they didn't.

But but I mean it in retrospect when I think about it, she did look younger. Now that I know, I'm like, oh, yeah, she was younger. Anyway, It's just a little my own little pet peeve. They could have just said she was her little sister, unless there's a good reason in the canonically, why she. While you were watching that movie, did you think that girl was younger than her?

I didn't think about it at all. It was only after I learned, what. Are we talking about it? This is such a weird avage. This is just a nitpick.

This we're just nitpicking because this is Look, this has been a love fest. Let's talk about the hand. Oh you want to talk about v fight to end all fights in this movie? Yeah, let's talk about the fucking fight with the hand. Well, the only thing that's kind of weird.

Here's the thing like the hand. The hand that works for the DODC. For some reason, that was a little we're talking nitpicks. That was a little weird. That is that a nitpick?

No, that was a problem. They come like walking down the stairs five members of the Hand, and I'm just like, wait, like and then I thought, wow, that's really weird that they're just like in this office building. But then I looked at they were like facing down Spider Man and went, okay, it makes sense here. But still, but there are like one hundreds years old secret organ is and now they're working for damage control. That was a little weird.

But again I see the thing is my son is always wanted to bring up these things and these little nagging things, and I go, you know what it's all about Willing's suspension of disbelief here. So I am gonna take my own advice and suspend my disbelief and say, fine, the hand are working for damage control. The fucking fight scene. Man, I was not prepared for a fucking martial arts extravaganza so close to the end of this movie and have it be so fucking good. This was the first time I thought, oh, I'd get it.

There's the hand. They all move in connection. Yeah, they're like hopping on each other's backs, and it was like. Like there's a chain of them at one point where they're like whipping each other around. I was like, I don't even know what's happening.

It's martial arts movement, shans is what it is. Don't try and make me laugh with you can get Jim. Sorry, but it's and but it's the Spider Man movies. This and I think we've used this word a few times already. It's probably the purest fight that we've ever had because, like I said, when when Spider Man does his thing, it has the the the vibe of of karate, good karate.

So to have him square off against this incredible martial arts organization, these these you know, amazingly physical martial artists, was really thrilling. And it, like I said, Jackie Chan's stunt team worked on this movie, and it showed the martial arts in this thing are I could. I will stack them up against almost anything. They're They're fantastic, And it's the added benefit that the shit. Out of him at one point.

Man, it's so good. It's so good. Well, it's and it's so clever because it it's a prelude again spoiler alert to to Peter finally embracing his metamorphosis. Is arachnid sort of tendencies come to the foe because all the while he's having this sort of psychic conversation with with Jean Gray because she's in the other room kind of menacing the head of damage control, and he's trying desperately to get into this room. The hand is preventing him, and she says.

Something the hand to prevent that. Right, so's she says hands. What's cool is she says something like because they have these weapons, the the the damage control agents that that can basically dissolve his web, his artificial web, and she says something like, isn't it ironic that this group that you're working with they developed weapons to go against you just in the event that they need to. Is that someone you can trust? But then when they have an entire task force ready for you, ready for you, get out of line.

But it's set up this wonderful, like yes moment where he's finally embraced his rachnet side and he no longer is you using these artificial web shooters, So he's shooting the web, but these guns and everything are ineffectual against because they don't know He didn't even know he had organic webs until this whole thing started happening. So now all of a sudden their weapons are completely useless against this, you know, resurgent Spider Man. Yes, Oh, it was such a great moment bottom alone. Other great moments. We got to talk Hulk versus Spidey versus Punisher.

What a fucking sequence. Now the inhibitor. Look, Peter creates the inhibitor and he's using it on himself, and he has a spare the universal inhibitor, and his plan is to get it on Jean Gray and then knock out her powers and then deliver her to the authorities, which he does. However, in order to get that done, he has to get through the Hulk. And not smart Hulk, not banner Hulk.

This is the Hulk. And I too, had forgotten how huge the Hulk is because we get version of him. We get the sort of banner Hulk version just for a second or two. But then when we get full Hulk, Oh my god, man, and what a fight. It's incredible, and it's one of those great fights where Spider Man is squaring off against him, and just when you think that you know, maybe the Hulk has the upper hand.

Who zoom, who rushes in, guns blazing to distract the Hulk just long enough so that Spider Man can get back on his feet basically, but the punisher walks in. It's great. But yeah, the Hulk in this when he goes full savage Hulk, is easily like eight to ten feet tall. He's massive, and the fight is every bit the savage, brainless brute. He's destroying this building and it's an incredible fight.

But Frank Castle's in the middle of it, trying his best and Spider Man's like, you're not get out of here. This is above your pay grade, Frank, he this is this is the Hulk we're talking about here. Okay, I'll go take care of the girl. You take care of the Hulk. You just don't want to fight the Hulk.

You're scared. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It's great. But but but again, and it's not technically it's not even really the Hulk for a while, it's it's Jean Gray, correct, you know, because because they The way it kicks off is that you see that the the head of damage control and a few other functionaries are in like a basically like a like a like a panic room. They're they're they're holed up and there's this banging and every time it bangs, you see like dust come down from the ceiling and you're like, what, how are they?

How is she trying to get into this room? And then that's when you realize eventually that whole ship, she's taking control of the Hulk, and he is just it's like Jurassic Park where you see a little cup of water that vibrating with the with the t Rex. It's the fucking Hulk and this we haven't seen the Hulk in this manner in what ten years at. Least since the Oak of Infinity War that was our last home r and he got his ass kicked in that. Yeah, and that that precipitated this whole business of the smart Hulk that we see in endgame.

Yeah, it's it's it's. A great welcome back, Big Green Fellow. Yeah, it's a great it's a great fight. I mean, there's there's a lot of I think you said this earlier that there's a lot of character stuff, but it doesn't feel like you're just waiting for the next action scene. Everything has a place, So the character stuff works awesome, but the action there's no dilution of the action either, including the scene with the Hulk and then when she finally when Jean Gray finally breaks through.

By the way, she then takes control of Frank, which is kind of a scary proposition too, because you know he and even there's some laughs there because for the first time in the movie, he doesn't talk like Frank. He talks like you know, he talks like Jean Gray. It's really kind of funny. I like when she leaps into him and she's like, oh wow, there's a lot. It's great, and you know, it would have been nice to have a little more.

I say this a lot maybybe it was just enough, Hulk, because you can't make it. It can't become too diluted with other characters and other set pieces. The focus is always on Spider Man, and I love that. Yeah, okay, so Gene needs to get into the DDC because they have her sister. It's marvel when they do this right, do it completely right, where we can be on the side of the villain and the hero at the same time.

I was totally with Geen Gray. I was so bloodthirsty by the end of this fucking movie because what their plan is is to force her to jump to basically lock her down and through artificial means, force her to jump out of her body, and they're mapping her brain, hoping to harness that technology so that they can you know, put it into regular humans and have telepath that they can control. And they killed her fucking sister doing the same thing you said it earlier. Peter has figured out that there's this thirty two foot radius that she can jump into, and they've carefully constructed a prison that's thirty two feet away from her, and what they're doing by forcing her to jump over and over and over again, the unintended consequences that they're forcing her DNA to evolve faster and therefore her powers get infinitely stronger.

The moment where she broke out, man, I was ready for her to fucking kill everybody. I wanted her to do it. Well, it's particularly awful because through the whole movie she keeps what she's looking for. Is this the last message she got from her sister? And again this is so spoiler efic here, but we're past that point.

The message from her sister was the word vmax could mean anything. So everyone she encounters, where's vmax? Where's vmax? Where's vmax? Thinking that that's going to be the key to finding out where her sister is.

So she's in this prison, bolted into this chair, and as she's going through this awful situation where she being forced to jump, she looks up and she sees a ventilation shaft above her, like a like a ventilation you know thing screen, and it's like she sees kind of rubbed off it's it says vmax. It really says like ventil max. So effectively, what the sister was sending her as a final message wasn't a clue. It was just the last thing that she saw before she died in this room, you know, bolting into a cage like an animal, being forced to do this. And that's the moment where again everything turns, and now she evolves and they lose control of her, and she she essentially paralyzes what all of Manhattan basically at that point.

Essentially, it's like a one kilometer diameter around the prison that she's in becomes frozen. Yeah, just on the outskirts of that, it's Frank Castle. Yeah, and and they and then and now and now in our final hour, Frank Castle becomes the villain of this movie. Isn't that that's crazy? But you but you you can follow his line of logic because.

He's he was absolutely right to do it. He he he gets the biggest gun that he can find that he has. Fifty caliber fucking machine. It's huge, and he takes like a sniper's nest, you know, just outside the radius of this psychic barrier, if you will. And all the while, Peter is finally broken through this door and they are he's confronting her and and it's actually a very cool moment in the movie where he allows, well should be I guess we'll get into this right now.

No, no, just cocked Frank Castle right now. So while this is happening, and and it seems as if Peter is breaking through to her and this is going to be diffused, Frank sees his moment to take her out with this fifty caliber gun. But because Peter has now had enhanced senses because of this metamorphosis he's. Been going through, he made sense fighty sense. He and I honestly, I, as silly as it sounds, I thought that this was it because he takes the bullet for Jean Gray.

He sacrifices himself for her. And at that point I said to myself, holy shit, is this the secret of the movie. Because Tom Holland's been talking about, you know, passing on the mantle to another person, like he's in his thirties now, he's maybe not ready to continue doing this character. So I thought, holy shit, how do they keep this under wraps? Because they set it up like like a hero's death where he's like, I'm okay, okay, and then he just collapses and he just got a fifty caliber bullet in his back.

How the fuck is he going to survive this crazy moment. Aanks to Spider powers. Yeah, no, it is. It's a fantastic moment. Like I said, the sudden switch to Frank becoming the villain and the thing where Peter is just trying to do the right thing.

And let me also praise the way I praised Doctor Strange and its ending. That this ending of this movie, for as action as it is and for as much fisticuffs as were given over the course of the runtime of this movie, the climax of this film is not too similarly powered people punching the shit out of each other around a room. It's a conversation and it doesn't feel any less impactful than the Hulk raining down on Manhattan with parts of a building. The human stuff, which is the stuff I praised, to be honest, in the first three movies, which is they felt almost like John Hughes's superhero movies because they never lost sight of the fact that this is about these kids and his journey learning how to use these powers.

But he's at his heart, he's high school kid. So in this movie, I think they never lost sight of the fact that, as you said, this is a movie about Peter the person, not necessarily Spider Man the character, but Peter and Jean Gray, and the fact that it doesn't end with people beating each other into submission, but rather a tender conversation. I mentioned I bawled a lot in this movie. This is another scene bringing back out May to be the fucking catalyst for spinning Jean Gray's head around and pointing her in a new direction. Jesus Christ insane, And then not to mention, like the the the sort of gut punch at the end end of this movie after so oh yes, effectively, you know, Peter is recuperating.

He's not quite ready to go back to being Spider Man yet, but he has a ritual where he goes to the same bodega and buys flowers for May for the for her grave. And we didn't mention this, but previously one of my favorite favorite moments in this whole movie is earlier where after Peter has basically talked to him Jay and it becomes clear that she has absolutely no memory of him at all, and there's there's not going to be any fairy tale, you know, rekindling of that love that they had. She says, outright, I don't love you. That person you knew is not me. I don't even know you.

So he he fly. He swings her back to her apartment where she's living with Ned, and she says, Hey, do you want to come up and meet Ned? I think I think he'd like that, And he says okay, So he goes up in full costume and on Ned obviously is like totally geeked over meeting Spider Man because he's obsessed with the character. So that leads to the scene where the two of them are working on a lego together and and Ned is just like it felt like a little iota of that friendship that they had, Like you can feel Peter kind of like trying to feel what he felt before and maybe enjoying the moment for what it was. I mean, he says it out right, so this is the best time I've had in years, and no doubt at least four years, I'm guessing, because they're graduating from college in this movie.

It was it felt a little like a funny way the scene in Forrest Gump where Forrest goes to visit Jenny and then she reveals that Hey, I have a son, and he's like, would you like to talk to him? Like, MJ has nothing to gain really from this, but she's like, you know, I know you and Ned were tied. Would you like to talk to him and hang out with him for a little bit. So for that moment in time, Peter becomes that high school kid again, hanging out with his buddy, even though the buddy has no idea who he really is. And then that leads us into the epilogue of this movie, where as I said, Peter's at the bodega getting flowers and Ned is there and they start talking and Peter does their super secret handshake from the earlier movies, and Ned, without even realizing what he's doing, reciprocates perfectly.

And the last word that we hear in this movie is Peter Now does he know? Does he realize who Peter is? Does this somehow? Okay? Okay, See they made it ambiguous because he says, Hi, I'm Peter, and then they do the handshake, and then he says Peter, and he does it in a way that we're led to believe he has now realized who Peter Parker is.

In his relationship with him. The next line could be how do you know how to do that? It could be. But also remember that at the end of that scene where they've been working on legos, when when when Peter leaves the apartment, MJ slips and calls him Peter on the way out, and Ned says, wait, Spreaderman, his name is Peter. Ah.

So there's a lot. There's a lot of ambiguity there. I agree with you, but I mean didn't. Also, Ned has fucking magic powers, baby, He can use a sling ring. He can hears the sling ring.

So I don't know. My heart kind of leapt a little bit at the end, because you know that relationship was the core part of one of the one of the core elements of those that first trilogy is Ned and he was he was his where they call it his his guy, his man in the chair exactly. So I don't know. After the disappointment of the fact that MJ doesn't know who he is and and is blunt about it and has to be you just want Peter to get a win in that. I think he did well.

I think certainly he's in a better place at the end of the movie than he was at the beginning for sure. Oh and where is that somewhere in space? Post? Did you stay for the post credit? Of course I did.

I mean, you know, it's because that has that has an app Spider Tracker, which shows you where Spider Man is, like the sightings at tracks him and sort of pinpoints it on a little map. Frank Castle actually uses it to find out where Spider Man is in the in the finale of the movie. But in the post credits scene that the app comes to life and say, is a Spider Man found? Location unknown unknown? And it just keeps zooming out and out and out from Earth and then it's somewhere out in space and Spider Man appears somewhere in space.

Is this a new Spider Man? Or is Spider Man now on Earth? Whatever the fuck where Doom is? So that was another conversation I had with my son, and my thought is, and this is probably in retrospect, it's a little far fetched, but my initial gut reaction was Spider Man, Peter Parker, this character on battle World. But it doesn't make a lot of sense because why would the Spider Tracker be working when at this point the battle World is kind of like in its own realm, and it's not really part of anything and everything else.

It doesn't exist kind of so I don't know if that holds a lot of water. But that was my first gut. Here's a theory that makes no sense. It's venom. That didn't even occur to me that it could be another.

It could be like you could just as easily say, well, maybe it's Miles Morales. Who knows. I'm hoping it's Miles Morale. That was my initial hope. I went, oh, it is this a new Spider Man?

Are we going to get the Miles finally? Like? Why is he off planet? Or is he going to end up on our planet? From into the Spider Verse, we'll get the real world version of him.

In the MCU, it's funny that there's a moment where Peter has escaped, essentially escaped from the hospital where he's been recuperating through a very funny moment where Frank puts on his mask and pretends that he's because the whole crowd masked outside the hospital like waiting for any word. So Peter slips out with this sort of like hoodie or whatever on and he looks over and he sees this little boy on somebody's shoulders, and the boy kind of looks at him and is like pew like he does like the web thing at him, kind of indicating that maybe this kid knows who he is. My son's impression was, could that be Miles Morales. Miles has got to be older at this point because when we went in Homecoming, Donald Glover is what's his name, the Prowler.

The Prowler that he figured into all of those that the Miles Morales video game. Yeah, absolutely, the Prowler did. Yeah, yeah, so you're right he was the kids. He said, like, you know, you used to clean the shit up, like you know, my I got a nephew around here, and like you know, he was talking about the weapons and. That was easily what ten years ago now, yeah, years ago.

So yeah, that's you're right, that would not be I again. It's sometimes it's easy to see, you know, Easter eggs where there are none. Perhaps speaking of potentially easter eggs, when Peter is moving into his new apartment, there's a blonde near supermodel type goo goes hey, we live on the same floor. Is that Gwenn Stacy? She's listed in the credits as Apartment Girl.

They featured her twice. They did, and actually, I thought, for a second until I got a good look at her, I thought, that is that Betty Brand from his high school kind of looked a little like her, But it wasn't. I know, it wasn't, but it sort of resembled her. I thought, maybe that'd be an interesting thing. But I call it Gwen Stacy.

I think we're going to see the end of the MJ thing. Yeah, she Well, it has to be said that Peter showed zero interest in her because once she says, hey, you're on my floor, right, that's when he decides to move to the to like the studio part of apartment with all these things and everything. He's just like, yeah, it's time to get out of here. It's not his type. I guess, I don't know.

But not not then. But we'll see, well, we'll see. I mean again, it's it's it's very tempting to jump to conclusions because anything and everything can be an easter egg. It just you know, your perspective can shift on. This had a great time, fucking fantastic time watching this movie.

It was an awesome, awesome, you know date the movies for me as well. I I thoroughly enjoyed it. I said to you when we were texting about getting on a call or getting on our recording today, I said, look, I have I don't really have a lot of notes figuratively speaking for the filmmakers, because I just I had a great time. I want to say it's the best in years, but I can't remember the last time I had this much on an MCUs Like. Well, I was reading an article and this I thought was kind of interesting.

Is so we we this summer, the summer of twenty twenty six, we've we've had a lot of interesting success stories. Every summer it seems like we're talking about the you know, our blockbusters and Jeopardy and what if our studios plugged into what moviegovers want. And this summer we saw movies like like The Back Rooms and Obsession that were big successes, but they were comparatively small, you know, horror movies. So that was it seemed to be painting the way for maybe the key to the next wave of cinema. But now this throws everything again into question, because this is another old fashioned studio blockbuster that people were predicting would be a big hit, But I don't know anyone who thought it was going to make almost a billion dollars globally in three fucking days.

So now what conclusion do we draw from this? Father alone, let Tom Holland in on the story development meetings. God bless him, God bless the guy. Also, keep Daniel Cretton around because he's the best of them. He's better than the Russo's.

I really enjoyed Chang Chi. I will say I thought the ending sort of let me down a little bit because it just ended up being a bunch of pixels fighting each other. It had a lot of heart. That bus action scene that happens towards the beginning. Is fairit dozens of times.

It's great, and I love Simoulu. I thought he was fantastic as the character. So yeah, and I have it. Although I have not seen it, I understand that wonder Man was probably the best Marvel TV show in years, and of course they responded by canceling it. Of course, anything good must go, except Spider Man, which seems to be getting better.

So it has to be said also, and I don't know if you alluded to this yet, he was originally slated to direct The Kang Dynasty. Oh my god, that would have been awesome. Before that got canceled effectively because of all the business around Jonathan Major's. So that's the best thing that came out of that. Then.

Yeah, so we got this movie and he directed it, thank god. And he would not have been available for this movie had they not delayed filming because Tom Holland was making The Odyssey. They had to delay the start of Spider Man by six months, and that gave them the time to get Kreton on board and make all the necessary changes they had to make to the story to make it really work. So things kind of have a way of working out, don't they. And you know now that first trilogy of films feels like high school Spider Man, and now we're onto regular Spider Man's just like the fucking comics.

Things are looking up. Now here's the thing, do you I know that Tom Holland walked back his original statement where he said I don't want to be doing this in my thirties. Now he's seen a way forward for the character. Do you think we're gonna obviously we're going to see another trilogy before all is said and done. At least right, Yeah, I think so.

I think, well, he's going to show up in either Doomsday or fucking Secret Wars, but no more or less than everybody else in those movies. But yeah, I imagine we're going to get two more of these movies, and then we're gonna get Miles Morales. Is what if Miles isn't already introduced by then. How much do you know about Miles Morales. I know about into the Spider Verse amount of Miles Morales and across the Spider Verse.

I stopped reading Spider Look, I was never a Spider Man reader to begin with, so he was never my jam so once they started giving us variants, it wasn't my thing either. Being a kind of a purist, I was always very dubious when I understood that they had another character that was kind of had this basically variant of Peter Parker, and I was like, well, why you know Peter Parker is the guy? But then I saw the Spider Verse movies, and more importantly, I played the Miles Morales Spider Man video games, and that gave me funny enough that gave me a lot of insight in the character, to the point where I really embraced the idea of having this because it's so fresh and it's a wonderful spin on Spider Man with you know, it's it's a different origin, but it works really well.

So shame on me for not giving it a chance. Well, I imagine we're going to get a feature film student than later with Miles, so all's forgiven. HP if they'd only fucking finished this third Spider Verse movie. That is true, but you know that's a Columbia problem. We're talking MCU here, yes, and we're going to continue to talk mcu In our next episode of on Doomfest.

We are taking on four, that gnotic beauty and all of his all of his friends, the Frost Giants. Remember that, I love those Frost Giants. You should have brought those guys back, baby, was that. A Boston pronunciation of Nordic? Nordic?

You said he's not a kid. Sorry, I'm going down to Fenway with the fucking giants. I'm not gonna do this. Pack the car. Yeah, no, yay, Sammy.

All right, listen, folks, until the Von Doomfest returns, try to enjoy the daylight