240: RoboRewatchability

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To your stations, we have Movie Meltdown. You now have 20 seconds to comply. What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Beau.

And I'm Greg. We're coming to you live via digital recording from Baxter Avenue Theaters. And, um, this week we've got several new people sitting in. Um, first we'll go with jen say hello hello uh i have known you for years and have been trying to rope you into this and i found a good way to black man i mean convince you this week so we've got you know we finally. Made this happen so we will it's yeah.

It'll be exciting and uh you two i'll let you introduce yourselves and and go into um what what has brought you here i suppose because you've we usually start off the show with, with a geek activity. And I think your project is sort of, um, above and beyond most people's geek activities. So I guess just introduce yourselves and then you can go into what it is you're putting together. I'm Andrew. I do vocals for the three piece electronic musical outfit with outfits, ultra pulverized based here in Louisville, Kentucky.

I'm Chris Vito, this man's brother, uh, AKA Tony robot, uh, I played the beat machine and synthesizers and stuff in. The same band. Instead of Robot Robot? It's a choice. Yeah.

It's how you want to go. Tomato, tomato. And technically, we've sort of worked with you before because. We've roped you into projects many years ago before this was even a show in our little weird group. So it's been a long time.

Welcome back. I don't remember this rope. Are you talking about. Oh, the Moody Geek. Yeah.

Okay. It's a good rope. I didn't remember. That was there when we were doing the print magazine. I believe you wrote something and threw it in the mix there.

So it was a while. I just, like, I knew the name clicked, and I was like, I know he's done stuff with us in the past. It's just been a long, long time. It's good to be back. Welcome back, yes.

So. Geek activity? What is it that you guys have taken upon yourselves? You've done many with your band. I'm at least familiar with you from your other projects in the past, but this one seems very specific.

We re-scored Robocop. We made a whole new. Score to the movie. It's a whole different experience from start to finish. So I guess that's pretty doggone nerdy.

What prompted this is my question. Well, Andrew had the idea. He wanted us to score a movie a long time ago, and Robocop was the first movie that came to our heads. It's probably a movie we're most familiar with. It fulfills a boyhood dream of dying horribly and then turning into a broken robot.

I'm working on my own cyborg body, as I mentioned on a recent episode. Soon I hope to be jammed into it. Live long after I should be gone and Do you. Have to die a horrible death before you get gendered? That's going to happen anyway.

I mean, I'm just being realistic there. I'm trying to remember, though. I mean, you and I had been kind of bouncing that idea back and forth because I remember I approached you, I guess it was like two, three years ago. It was a while back when I'd said, hey, would you maybe want to do a show at the theater one time? I think I remember I was saying maybe it might be a silent film or something.

And you'd said that you all had kind of come up with the idea of maybe wanting to do Robocop. Yeah. It's been in the works for a while, hasn't it? Yeah, it took about a year figuring out what we were going to do and how we were going to pay ultimate tribute to the movie because we're all so obsessed with that movie, we didn't want to half-step. So it took like a year once we started working on it.

We were able to incorporate a lot of the sound effects and dialogue and quotes. There's so many good quotes in that movie, and there's so many that I'm obsessed with, even not name quotes, which is... little things that are said during the movie I really like. So we incorporate a lot of that with electronic score and some of that dialogue stuff sampled and stuff like that. Cause I think it's cooler to hear Robocop rap or like Dick Jones, just sampling Dick Jones to a beat and making him rap. It seems more fun than like rapping about Dick Jones, you know?

So do you, and again, I, I kind of have to ask this cause I think the only, you've only done it one other time, right? Right. I was outside. I was working the door because Ryan had to go, like, do something with you guys, I'm assuming. He had something to do with the movie, and he was like, um, can you watch this?

So, and there were tons of, like, everybody kept showing up late, by the way. I felt like I needed to start kicking them out after a while. I'm like, no, no, you missed it. It's already started. Get lost.

But, seriously, it was like a good half hour in. I'm still standing there taking people's tickets. Like, I'd see some straggler come up. I'm like, well, I guess I'm still on. The clock here, so...

So I missed the majority of it. I could hear some bleeding out every once in a while. So I do want to ask, how do you time it out? Do you play over top of a lot of it and then time out what you want to come in as far as dialogue and sound effects? We play over...

The only thing that is baked into the DVD really is dialogue that is untouched from the movie. There's some stretches of dialogue that didn't have any score underneath it. so that's the only thing that kind of plays that's baked into the movie, but everything else we've just rehearsed it. And I mean, Chris will, I mean, Chris and Jared will both like, it'll just change on dime, you know, like when the cut happens, like the beat will change. And it's really cool to, cause I always liked, I think another part too is wanting to do something like that. Cause I always liked when you synced up, when you played some random album with some random movie and those things kind of sync, like that's always really cool.

And so to kind of purposefully, like, customize a soundtrack to the movie, kind of get that same experience, you know? I've had that in mind as an offshoot episode anyway, actually. So start planning ahead for that. I kind of want to just start picking two. I want to pick, like, a classic film and a classic album and see if they have, like, the whole Wizard of Oz, Dark Side of the Moon effect.

There's a website called Synchronicity Archive. And there's like thousands of combinations of stuff. That people just post that they discover. See, that's the thing. I don't think I wanted you there.

I want to pick random. Yeah, it works. You'd be surprised the random stuff. We had great success by picking frogs with a mustache-less Sam Elliott with Autobahn. Interesting.

It's the only way to watch frogs. It was pretty awesome. They're going to put that on the box now. It's the only way to watch frogs. But anyway, so maybe subconsciously that was kind of, you know, because there is some of that, like, it seems, I mean, obviously it's purposeful, but it's still, it's cool to see it, like, just cut right to the movie a lot of times and stuff.

Because I would be disappointed if I went to see Robocop and I didn't hear certain lines. You know what I mean? Like, I'd be like, yeah, it was cool, but I really wish I would have heard Ed 209's walk sound or, like, you know. bitches leave you know can you fly bobby and shit like that like you gotta hear that when i watch the movies that movie. Really lends itself to being scored re-scored obviously it got scored at one point but just because there's so many there are so many grand entrances that when we were watching it with the sound down and trying to think of what we were going to do to it i was like oh i can't wait to put something over ed to and i'm walking in the boardroom and ruin everybody's day and and when robocop walks in the convenience store and all that kind of stuff so i don't know it just it begged to be for us to put stuff on it.

And he was able to sample a lot of the sound effects and, like, make a beat out of it. So, like, make a beat out of Ed 209's, like, mechanical sounds and stuff. So it really is, it's like Robocop 2. It's, like, the ultimate audio tribute to the movie. And not that I didn't think the original score was cool.

It's not like we're trying to improve it. It's just a totally different thing, you know. It's like, you know. That's kind of what I was wondering at the door there watching it because that brought in a whole lot of people that were quite a bit younger. And I was wondering if there were kids there that hadn't seen it regular before.

I don't know. What do you think the experience would be like if you just went in cold having not even been familiar with the movie? I wonder. I know that there are a couple of people that that was their first time seeing Robocop. Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like that's kind of wrong. I mean, that's just sad. Their life in general is really sad. Exactly.

You have a much bigger problem on your hands. This is the first time you've seen Robocop. You can't heal that wound. That's true. I mean, this war is so recognizable that it is intimidating to approach it, but it it's just it was fun to do something different with it and now i haven't seen the movie without our stuff on in so long i've i'm like oh that's what the robocop theme.

Sounds that's how obsessed we are with the movie because i've I've seen this movie now more times than I ever thought I would, even when I watch it all the time anyway. And it's like, you know what we should do? We should really get together and watch Robocop sometime. I mean, with the original audio, you know, because we haven't heard it in so long. That's all we do.

It's like, oh my God. We still want to see this movie. Like, that's how awesome of a movie it is and how obsessed we are with it. But before I forget, I think that's one reason why we included some of the original audio from the movie is so that if it was your first time seeing it, that. You at least. kind of pick up our little plot points here and there and at least know some of it.

We didn't want to totally lose people if it was the first time seeing it. But there's never any point to where the score just drops out completely and it's just dialogue. It's pretty much constant. Maybe just a few seconds here and there. Yeah, but I didn't think anything would be like a minute or two or anything along that line.

I've been trying to think just sitting here. I don't think story-wise, even if The original score and even dialogue wasn't in it. I think you could pretty much flesh out the storyline pretty well with completely silent. I think it's one of those movies that, you know, it's pretty basic enough that you could figure out on your own. And it's very visual.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can make out a lot of the basics just based on the way that he shoots it. I mean, you really, yeah. The dialogue's fun, but you can kind of piece it together.

And it's also cool. It makes what we're doing kind of seem more of a part of the movie when you hear our music underneath somebody talking. It kind of makes it seem like it's part of it more, too. So is the original score totally wiped out of your version? There's one part where Robocop's busting up the Coke factory that we sample some of the score from the movie.

But how hard was it to get a clear copy, to just get it without the score? Oh, you mean the sections with just the dialogue? Or just the movie that you've got running without the score going on? Isn't most of it embedded so far into the movie? I was going to say, that's actually, I guess when we play it, is most of the time, is the audio just like down?

Or I'm assuming it's just basically, it's completely silent. Yeah, there's like, long stretches of silence as part of that DVD track. There's only like, you know, the parts here and there that, that are in, you know, that are needed or whatever. And you're talking about like movies, easy to follow as it is. I just thought of somebody, thought of somebody being lost in Robocop.

Like, I don't get it. Like there's this guy and it's his first day at work and they show him getting murdered. And then his story's over. Where's that other guy? I haven't seen him in like an hour.

He's going to his house? What's this? I'm not stuck. In this family. It's actually a Kirtwood Smith movie.

Well, I mean, it kind of is. It's funny about Kirtwood Smith because younger kids know him as the dad from that silly show. And to me, it was the opposite when I was like, Clarence Boddicker is the dad on some sitcom. He will always be Clarence Boddicker to me. And so it's weird.

Younger kids have kind of laughed at Clarence Boddicker like, the dad from that Sunday show, I'm like, boy, don't you laugh at Clarence. You were learned. Are you insane? He's like the baddest. He was intimidating.

Luckily, even as a sitcom dad, he's kind of a jackass. It's not too far off. It's like, you know, if he'd given a few years, he settled down, you know. He's one of those fun villains like, you know, Frank Booth in Blue Velvet where it's like, you can laugh at him at the same time. It's like, he's terrifying too.

He's frightening. And I like the fact that, you know, I don't know whether it was like, you know, Verhoeven came up with the idea, it was written in the script, or Kirtwood Smith came up with it, but, like, the fact that he's this major villain that has, like, glasses, you know, adding, like, that weird little nerdy touch to it, because you typically don't see that, you know, with a villain, you know, especially in 80s films and stuff like that. I just like that little touch that they gave the character. Don't know if it was intentional or it was just incidental, but I always appreciate it. I like when they give villains vulnerabilities because it's like, If I was hanging out with this guy, and he had, like, a quaddo coming out of his stomach, I'd always be wanting to look.

At it, and that would be an intimidation, like, point for him. Like, you looking at my quad? I'm like, never. I was, no. He'd be like, uh, excuse me, my eyes are up here.

Well, you got some down there, too, technically. But anyway, sorry. He's kind of got those, like, Raiders of the Lost Ark, bad guy Nazi glasses, you know? He was also a badass. There's some nice, dirty villains.

Yeah. Well, is there anything else you need to tell people about it or where to find you on the Internet or any of that fun stuff? Well, the World Cup show is at Baxter Theater Friday, August 23rd. It's at Struggle Midnight. It's $ 10.

It's probably the last time we're going to be doing it in Louisville because we want to just tease it and make people have to come out and see it. And we're going to try to do it in some other cities and kind of go to just, you know, theaters and just kind of go on the road book hop with it so you can be here for that did you just casually say road book hop take. It on the road book hop are you going to attempt to play it in Detroit that's the one that I would. Yes Detroit Institute of Art I'd really like to play it well. Actually there's a lot of abandoned buildings to choose from so just pick one and start playing and.

If you make enough money with the show in Detroit you can buy the city while you're at it throw a rock and. Hit a steel mill in that place yeah an abandoned steel mill but then we got we also got an EP coming out In September, so we find Zanzibar, September 20th. And, of course, we're on the Internet, ultrapulverize.com. And after you've done the tour, are you planning to release the CD of the score, too? Or is it something where it's always just going to be a live event?

I think we're just going to make it a live thing that you have to be in whatever place we're performing to see it, you know? You can't have everything you want. You can't. We won't let you. That's our lesson.

RoboCop taught me, that's what I'll teach you. I mean, is it something where you've genuinely had fun doing it? I'm assuming so. How many times have you watched RoboCop on average per week? I'm not going to say in total, but just in a given average week, like in this past year.

I haven't eaten it as a full loaf in one sitting unless we perform it in the basement. If I've eaten it in bite-sized cereal form, I've had probably the equivalent of 50 RoboCop loafs. This is a confusing way to. Yeah, how many slices are in a loaf? It's like when you convert metric to standard.

It's like, wait, wait. Well, then we had cereal mixed in, so I'm really confused now. Whatever. You know, you get me. A lot.

You make a cereal sandwich. I get it. Cinnamon Toast Crunch is the only loaf cereal, I think, isn't it? Perfect, yeah. They cut them in slices off.

Well, there was the French Toast Crunch for a while. Yeah, that snuck in there, but it wasn't, you know... You can't always find it anymore. But I will say the thing about Robocop, even as a kid, I always wondered, why doesn't anybody shoot him in the mouth? That definitely occurred to me, but I think that in a lot of movies, when everybody gets shot in the shoulder, I'm like, or the head, just aim for the head.

Superheroes have the vulnerability of the mouth when you get right down to it. Right, right. I've had this argument with Andrew a million times. So I guess we can assume that everybody, every bullet that hits his chest was aimed for his mouth. Really bad shots.

Just bad shots. Magnets. Well, that's what I was thinking. Maybe his chest is magnetized and it just sucks all the bullets. I mean, really, I'm joking because, you know.

I hate to tear apart. You know, like. Well, why did this? Well, that wasn't realistic. And I was tearing apart movies like that.

You just can't enjoy movies anymore. So I really don't want to do that. Oh, well, this show's over. But growing up, I was always just like, why didn't anybody just shoot him in the grill, yo? I think that's it.

There's some sort of, that cool mask puts out a little force field over his mouth. So was the bug already popped in your head about a second movie that y'all might do this with? We've kind of thrown around some ideas, but we always bat them down. They don't really seem to be as... We just don't love anything as much as RoboCop.

It's not RoboCop 2? Oh, God. But they loved RoboCop 2. Yeah, I don't think I can... I don't think...

I definitely don't think I can endure seeing RoboCop 2 as many times as we've watched RoboCop 1 to work through this. No, I probably won't watch that more than twice before I die. Two more times. Well, having just talked to the director of RoboCop 3, I'm sure he'd be pleased. If you wanted to do that.

Even he wasn't thrilled with that movie. I re-watched RoboCop 3 recently because I remember there being a cyborg ninja in there, and I was like, all right, all right, you know, rocket pack or something. But the thing that was weird to me about the movie is how much lip gloss RoboCop has on. If you watch it again, just seriously. That's just that Peter didn't need any, but that guy, I mean.

He was a pretty thing. RoboCop's a pretty thing in RoboCop 3. They're like, yeah, it'll work, but we're going to have to really slather up those lips. It made sense, though. Once he started talking about it, it's like, well, I mean, hell, who wouldn't make RoboCop 3?

They threw it at him, and I'm just like, hell, I'd make RoboCop 3. Even if it goes down in flames, you've got to make a RoboCop movie for millions of dollars. Who wouldn't do that? I'll do it, but I will not have him having some dry lips. He will have it.

He will have some supple lips you can imagine. All right. Well, you ask a good lead-in question, Beau. So I think we'll take our break here. And when we come back, we will return.

I don't remember what the question was. That's okay. Everybody probably forgot it by now. When we come back, though, I'll throw it back out there and we'll get. Into this week's topic.

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I think you guys know I'm a geek. And it's been going on for quite a while. So in moving things around, I also have moved many times in the last several years, and I have most of my stuff still in boxes. And I went over and picked some up. They were still stored away at someone else's house.

And I went over and was, like, digging through stuff and found, like, three or four boxes of these old T-shirts. And I had, like, so many I started going through. And I'm like, wow, this just shows how far back my, like, movie geekdom goes are they have suncoast tags on them some might have yeah and some go well before that too so that's the thing like as i went into this i was like okay this i mean most of them are way like they're i mean half of them are like little kid sizes and like there's others that still are like way too long gone that i can't wear anymore or worn out or like you name it like they're falling apart but being the movie geek that i am god forbid i throw them away So then I was like, well, okay, here's what I'm going to do.

So you're going to offer up us to each pick our own falling apart kid-sized T-shirts? No, you don't get that. They're mine, damn it. I said I was a geek. Geeks don't give their stuff away.

They just show off. They show off. I feel. Just gloat about your broken clothes. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of them, too.

And you'll understand why in a moment. I feel like, okay, what we need is the T-shirt project. Where we go through and document these ridiculous shirts that I. Certainly have a good collection to kick things off. But I encourage everyone else, if you're an old school geek and you have your own t-shirts, maybe you don't still have them laying around like some sort of hoarding weirdo.

But if you have pictures of you wearing one when you're four, that's cool. I'm going to cap it off about ten years. I think it needs to be something that's at least ten years old, so. I was going to say, all I got is about 20 Dick Tracy t-shirts. I might have a few of those in there, too.

So I'm assuming you probably have all the ones I have. But, you know, I thought this time it would be fitting. Here's the one I brought that I just kind of came across today. It's a good tie-in. Oh, wow.

This is a nice original issue RoboCop. Yeah. That's why they need to go to the website and go to the link right at the top that says the t-shirt project. And they can see this one where you featured it. Are you modeling them in the photos?

I'm going to find. I think the first one that's going to go up is going to be modeled by a skeleton. And then I might have to find some other random. We could get Paul Brokaw to wear all your t-shirts. I don't think that's the thing.

I can't wear most of them. So I'm going to have to find some poor soul. But yeah, this one actually, it's a few years after RoboCop came out because it's the copyright on it is Orion Pictures and it's 1990. So within a few years, they put this weird RoboCop shirt out that obviously I had to have. I don't know what's with the 32105 at the top there.

Yeah. Don't you know that? You call yourself a RoboCop fan. What is it? Somebody Google that and we'll find it.

It's probably his ammo count. Looks like he's in VTAC constantly looking at his EKG up there in the right corner. He stays pretty calm for staying in such crazy arrhythmia. Anyway, I thought that was entertaining. I don't care if anybody else does.

That's the teaser there. And then from here on out, we're going to start posting them. It's a teaser shirt. No, I see. I didn't say that because that's going down the Robocop road, and I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to use it any chance. Robocop. Every road in Detroit. But if you want to do something cheesy, all right, we'll go T-shirt Tuesday is when we'll post the new shirts. As cheesy as if I were to dress like that for Halloween, I'd be Robocop.

So anyway, I don't know. I'm entertained by that. So go to MovieMeltdown.com. Look for the t-shirt project. We're going to be posting them every week.

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I think that's how you proclaimed. Your geekdom when you were a kid. You bought a dorky t-shirt and Guess what? It hasn't really gone away, actually. Does Herbie the Love Bug t-shirt count?

If you've got it, let's see. It's not a t-shirt, but there's a vivid memory of me in a picture wearing a Thundercats sweatsuit. It's a sweatshirt with matching sweatpants. It's utterly garish. I want an adult extra double X size.

And I'm going to wear it all the time. We can have a separate spinoff page of just dorky attire. I mean, because that's not movie related until they get that Thundercats movie. And even then, like, it's not officially, but we could work it in if we had a movie to work off of. But yeah, that's just, you need to talk to your parents about.

So to be clear, you're looking for a movie geekdom. If I have a picture of me when I'm five years old wearing a Virginia Slim shirt, that's pretty geeky. Again, you might want to talk to your parents. Great t-shirt, man. Could be child abuse.

I'm not sure. So it's not going to make you feel old if I have pictures of me as a youth wearing t-shirts that you sold me. Not really. Again, I kind of assume most people out there are going to. That's why I capped it at 10, because if I go really old, nobody listening.

They're like, I was four then. What do you want from me? Because I think most of my old school stuff, apart from the Dick Tracy stuff, is Mystery Science Theater stuff. I have one of those. There's a little of everything mixed in.

Because I was wearing the MST3K ball cap the other day, and someone saw it, and they're like, where'd you get that? And I was like, Suncoast. They're like, man. I was like. 1994?

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All of life's riddles. Are answered in the movies. And now, on with the show. Yeah, it's funny how Robocop turned into be, like, a kid's thing. Because I remember it had Robocop figures and, you know, T-shirts and all that.

And then the TV show, too. Yeah, the cartoon. Well, that's what he was talking about. That's why they gave him that third one. They were like, kids are watching this.

Like, they're not made for kids. But it's like, maybe it's time to try to rebrand this thing and make it a semi-family-friendly thing. You know, it didn't work. But, like, again, it made sense. Yeah.

Listening to him tell, I was like, okay. I remember wanting to see the movies as a kid, and my parents wouldn't let us because they're like, no, it's too violent and stuff. In the kid mentality, it's like, yeah, I figure he shoots, but it can't be any worse than Indiana Jones or something. Not realizing that you're totally just mocking violence in movies within it that way. I was right at that age where it still wasn't okay.

But every single kid in my junior high had seen it. Somehow, someway, we'd all seen it. Well, at least the boys, because it's all we talked about. I mean, it was it for a good six, eight months. RoboCop was it.

Infecting the youth. That's what we did. And, you know, obviously we didn't get the whole thing about the violence. We just thought it was cool. There's no satire when you're in grade school.

Which makes me wonder, and I'm going to say something really nasty, but it makes me wonder how they're going to be marketing this remake. Yeah, the nasty thing is saying the remake, but I don't know how they're going to, like, who it's aimed at. I've heard decent things now, but I don't know. I don't know. Like, again, they're still, from what I hear, capping it at a PG-13.

And I'm not sure how to do that story right. I mean, that was my main problem with World War Z. I felt the PG-13. Like, I felt them backing off. Like, I should be...

Like, it's a zombie movie. That's the point. There's supposed to be horror around you. And when they cut away every time, I'm like... you're kind of cheapening the whole damn thing. And that's like RoboCop in general.

He wouldn't be a robot of any sort if he wasn't violently killed. You can't really have the story without the violence. So I don't know. I kind of see. Them making it just like an Iron Man movie, only Tony Stark dies in the cave.

Yeah. Instead of walking out triumphantly, he just died a pretty horrible death in the cave. Yeah. Instead of making the suit himself, they put him in the suit against his will. Like, maybe you just see him go in a building, and the building blows up or something, and then they cut instead of showing anything.

I don't know. I mean, it was... Wasn't it supposed to have been released, like, this summer or something? I know they've moved it back from what it used to be. It's been working a while.

When is it even. Supposed to be released now? Early 2014. Is it? Yeah.

Like, early, like, in the spring? No, I think, like, February or March or something. Oh, that's bad. The dumping ground? That's not good.

Yeah, that's the theatrical dumping ground. If you have no confidence in a movie as a studio, you put it anywhere. They really should do it in December and push for Oscar. And RoboCop could actually go up there and accept his Oscar. Maybe Murphy, like, puts him in the tub and dies.

He'd clean death. That actually makes a better corpse to make a robot out of. Then they don't have to cover everything up if he's still pretty. He dies with his lips glossed on. He'd be all set.

So, you asked earlier how many times have you watched Robocop in general this week, you know, in your life. So, obviously that is a good candidate for this week. It is time for The Grind. The Grind. Got you where I want you.

Girl, I think it's. Gonna feel so good. And this segment we discuss a specific topic or question related to movies. And we'd like the topics to come from you, but you never bother to email. In, so screw you guys.

This week's Grind topic comes from Fred, who also couldn't. Be here this week. He couldn't bother to be here. No, we love Fred, but he has scheduling issues. Well, Fred's favorite movie is Space Cowboys.

Is that why we came up with that one episode? Space Cowboys. Space Cowboys. That's somebody's favorite movie. Which I regret we didn't come up with like Curly Sue or something.

That's his second favorite movie. But I'm sure he finds it rewatchable. Which is what he wanted us to discuss. He said we should discuss movies that are rewatchable or basically you can watch them over and over again and never really tire of them. They still kind of always just kind of work with you.

So... That's our topic. Where would you like to go with it? Do you want to start with RoboCop, or have we already covered the basics of your RoboCop love? I think we've milked the RoboCop tea pretty well.

My pail is full of RoboCop milk. You might not have been on the... Never mind. I mean, I guess the question is, where did the fandom start with RoboCop for you guys? Because I think everyone, when it comes to their obsessive favorite movies, usually there's some anecdote that started the passion for it.

I don't know. I don't know. It was a movie I really liked when we were little kids and everything, but it didn't change my life when I saw it or anything. I remember it was the first violent movie we were allowed to see, and it was by accident. It was like our dad let us rent it, seeing a robot in front, thinking, eh.

Those video boxes. Parents, yeah. The kids have to think. We saw it in the store and wanted to rent it, and my dad was like, that's trash. You don't need to see that.

It's like, ah. That looks awesome. And my uncle saw it. And I was like, damn, Robocop's a shit. And then my dad was like, all right, we're in it.

And ever since we saw it, I just really liked it. You didn't know it changed your life is what Chris meant to say. He wasn't aware. Of course it did. There was everything before that moment and everything after.

So I suppressed the memory of Robocop touching me as a child. Is that what you're saying? I buried that deep down? Anyway. Then.

Did your dad watch it with you? Yeah, my dad watched it. Was he horrified? Yeah, it was, you know, it's like we were able to watch, I felt like we were able to watch Violence, you know, after that, I guess. We were just like, well.

You're fine, kids. You've just seen about everything now, so, you know. We only had to cover our eyes during the steamy scenes, which there are none in RoboCop. When RoboCop was making out with the female RoboCop. That was a different movie I rented.

Wait a minute. I can just imagine your dad sitting there watching and, you know, when his hand gets blown off and all that stuff, just sitting there, it's like, you know, a trickle of sweat coming down like, okay, is that the most, is that why it's rated R? Is there something worse? Is there something worse that I'm going to have to like stop this? Like, what are they going to see?

And just, you know, it keeps going and going. But really, that's like, that's pretty much the worst thing in it is like when he's killed. The car. When the guy gets hit by the car. Oh, when he gets hit by the car at the Toxic Waste.

That's just funny to me. It's funny, but I'm like, that's above and beyond normal gore. They turned a man into stew. Yeah. And the other really gory part, when he gets clearance at the end with his middle finger.

Oh, yeah. And the jugular just splats on him. Well, I guess when Ed 209... um yeah kills the executive the guy in the boardroom that's pretty bloody hardcore. So what i mean there's okay there's five extremely gory scenes. I mean that's yeah i mean and then there was my first um introduction to what rape was when they were chasing the woman down and then that that that was like oh they do that you know it was like oh they're So that was a little disturbing, too.

So you're going to say six, I think. It's a strange phrase, too, for you to say. It's like, that was my introduction to rape. It's like, here's some rape. We need more RoboCops, is what we learned from this book.

It truly fits that description of just a movie that I can watch all the time and not get tired of. And when we were going to score something, it was like, oh, it's the first thing that popped out of my mouth. RoboCop. I didn't know I had allegiance to him, but I did. You watch these movies as a kid, and then you revisit them as an adult, and you're like, oh man, that movie sucks.

I thought that was great. And it's not one of them. Some movies just hold up. Like Robocop, Ghostbusters. These movies are just solid.

Always. Nobody's done Ghostbusters. I was going to say Ghostbusters is like other movies. That's one that I can just watch sometimes. That's one I was trying to list off a few in my head before today.

I was just like, yeah, that's another good one. I don't know. We can bounce around and do some different ones, but See, I found mine like it wasn't it wasn't necessarily like the, the stuff that I was even like hardcore into sometimes. Cause the ones that like were the more culty kind of movies that I really love still weren't necessarily ones that I like. Watched over and over and over again.

Like, I don't know. I mean, there's plenty of those that like, You know, there were those, like, oh, my God, this is, like, the coolest movie ever. Like, I mean, I can go back to my Death Race 2000s and my Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. Like, I had those moments of, this is the best movie I've ever seen. But even those, like, as time went on, there were other ones that sort.

Of just replaced it. And a lot of them were relatively mainstream stuff. But I don't care. Like, I mean, people just like to, like, talk smack about stuff because it becomes popular. I'm like, I don't care.

It doesn't change it. I can watch Back to the Future forever. I don't care that it's totally overblown at this point and everybody talks about it. Everybody's seen it. I'm just like, I don't care.

It's still one of the most entertaining movies ever. If it's on now, I will get sucked in. An hour and a half will go by and I'm like, damn, I've seen this movie again. I think there's categories for me because I was thinking a lot about this one and there's You know, like your comfort food movie that you'll just put on and maybe you'll clean the house or you find it on TV and you're sucked in and you're still watching it. That's what happens to me, yeah.

You know, that's the comfy pair of pants movies. And then there's the. Comfy Pair of Pants, Peter Travers. Do they have Thundercats on it? Yes, they do.

And then there are the other movies that are... But I'm a Comfy Pair of Pants movie and I had a few Robocop loafs. That was tough for the day. Kicking back. I have your nostalgia movies that it touched a spot. in you or with your family or something like that.

Now Greg's trying to figure out how to describe his categorizations without us making fun of them. That's fine. Too late. We already thought one. And then I think the other one...

Well, now I've completely lost track. That's okay. Yeah, lost track of where I was going with that. That's completely fine. Because you were touched by that movie and you're scarred a little bit.

Oh, the other one was... Scarring films? Yes. We already did that. No, uh. where it becomes kind of an event where people watch them together.

Because I wrote that one down, too. I know which one you're probably discussing. Which one's that? Wizard of Oz. No, but that one was.

You know, a completely different route. It was Friday. My roommate. That's a very different movie. It was like, he's having a drink, he's putting Friday on.

And everybody that had not seen it or had seen it or was in the room had to sit down and watch it. And it had become one of those things where it's just, I was going to. Say, in the way of a vent, as well as drinking, as well as Verhoeven having a total recall. Oh, yeah. Because anybody who's a fan of total recall has played the total recall drinking game.

It's like you take a swig of beer every time Arnold kills someone, and you take a shot of whatever hard liquor you want every time you see the girl with three breasts. That's just once, right? Yeah. There's twice. She shows up once later on in the fight scene.

Oh, that's right. But, no, it's one of those things, you play that game, and at first it's like, it's been like half an hour I've had one sit, and then by like the fourth act, you're gone. But, I don't know, Total Recall is just, you know, Verhoeven is really good. It's just like creating an entire world, and I don't know, I want Ronnie Cox in charge of whatever world that exists, be it Mars or Detroit or whatever the case may be. but I don't know it's just such a silly movie when it comes to Total Recall and I never saw the remake that they had last year I heard. It wasn't that bad I mean it's definitely a different movie I guess it does again that was right around that whole remake time when we had our big discussion and I was like it's one of those same ones and I'm like it probably did the best thing you could do because it takes a very rough idea of what happens in that first one And even changes a lot of stuff like that.

I mean, there is no Mars on it. But, I mean, it just. Really loosely takes the story and just goes its own way. And I'm like, that's probably what you need to do in a remake. Because there's no reason to, like, shot for shot remake Total Recall.

Like, that just seems stupid. But the Running Man. The Running Man needs to be made right, really. That's a good story. I'm sorry.

You don't have Richard Dawson anymore, though, so you can't. What I was going to say, I'll add a fourth category to your listings. It's movies to where I watch them time and time again because you always pick up something new with them. It's like movies to where they're so saturated with visuals or characters interacting or something like that. You always pick up something.

Yeah. You could link that to, like, the Star Wars movies because they exist in such a universe all around. It's like you've got all those little and sillier characters, you know, that they made figures for even back in, like, the early 80s. But, you know, just the... Every scene is so full of just stuff.

But, I mean, it doesn't necessarily even have to be movies like that, but, like, Coin of Scotsy is one where I like to watch it over and over because it's just... looking at just the little moments that are captured on film and, you know, wondering what has occurred before, what's occurred after, how is he winning, why, basically, you know, he shot thousands of hours of just footage for, like, these non-narratives. It's like, why that one scene? It's like, do you like the way this person looks and all this stuff? Criterion just did the DVD, or the Blu-ray, and they had the early test footage for Coin of Scotsy that they'd done, and something I found really fascinating is, like, there's this Near the end, there's this guy who walks into an ice cream parlor, has a great 70s look.

He's just buying an ice cream cone, and then he walks off. And that's all that they have within the film. But on this extra footage, when you watch it, you actually see it unedited. And before that, he was in a strip club. And so he's recording across the street, and you see this guy come out of a strip club, and he just wanders into the place, and he gets an ice cream cone, and he walks out, and he goes into a different strip club on the same street.

I'm like, that's so funny. I never would have pictured that's what happened before or after that scene. It's just like, I'm done with one. I'm going to get myself an ice cream before the other one. It's just like little stuff like that.

The more you watch it, the more you really pick up on it. Live the dream. Ice cream and strip. Yeah, you're in a strip club and go, Man, I could use some ice cream. That's probably not a good sign for that strip club.

Get some sweet, sweet dairy. But you say Back to the Future. Back to the Future 2, for me, has more rewatchability. Because I just love all the inside jokes they've thrown in everywhere. Especially in the whole beginning sequence when they're in 2015.

Just all the mockery that they make of the 80s. I like that one more than most people. That's the one, for years, everybody hated. Which. I don't know.

I mean, to me, that one's just so... I can watch that more frequently than I can the first one. The first one just works all on its own. To me, the second one is definitely. That bridge movie.

It cannot exist on its own, especially because it goes into the first movie. So it has to be part of at least these two movies, if not the trilogy. But... Like, I don't know. To me, it's like that first one is so self-contained and is still, like, so smartly put together, even on its own.

Like, the fact that he was still putting in his own inside jokes within the first movie. Like, it hadn't even become a thing yet, and he was still working in tiny little references along the way. I mean, that's when I gave credit to Zemeckis. Like, he was just really skilled at doing that kind of stuff pretty early on. I wish he would have kept shooting live action movies.

At least this year he came back and did a live action movie, which I. I don't know. He just left it behind for so long there. I don't know. I wish he would just start doing those again because I don't like the weird motion capture creepy animation stuff.

No offense to him. I think they could make a horror movie with that motion capture because it's scary. It's horrific. Polar Express was his, correct? Yeah.

I remember I just had my wisdom teeth cut out and we went to go see that. So I was just like on a lot of medicine and my mom just drugged me and I was just like. Did you whisper that like that? I think I might have, but I don't know. Because my mom at the end of the movie asked me, she said, did you take too much medicine?

And I said, why? And she goes, just wondering. I remember that conversation. So I wondered, just talking the whole time on the screen. Because I remember the whole scene at the end, just to where you have this weird, it's like this communist regime to where the elves are all singing to Samson.

Fuck. Honey, you're creeping me out. Stop it. Settle down over there. So I just imagine like, you know, all these kids are just in this theater just enamored with Santa and just quietly in the back there.

Holy fuck. Adult voice. Completely freaked out. They changed the title to Get Your Wisdom Teeth Out First. It's like all my fond memories of movies have happened when I've been on too much pain medicine after surgery.

That's true. You know, I like... Because remember I told you last summer, actually, I cried happiness, like tears of joy when I was watching Saturday Night Fever. Such a beautiful film it just like hit me because like it was like during one of the dance scenes i'm like why why doesn't why isn't this anymore why what happened to disco. Why why don't i just i always made fun of it until i saw this it was like my eyes were opened you know it's just like It was a beautiful art.

It was a beautiful way of expressing yourself. Why is it dead? Why did it have to die? Just say no is the message we've learned. And then, you know, I went back and re-watched it, and I was like, this is a fun movie, but, man, I was, like, gone.

This could have took you on a journey. It did. You, like, called up Travolta and, like, this Scientology stuff. Yes. You know you've won me over with your dancing, so go ahead.

Give me the details here. Sign me up. The ancient art of disco dancing. Which I'd like to think even better. Probably if somebody had walked in at that point in time, I was just sitting there like, oh, this is great.

Like, the DVD's just on the menu. The whole time. I never watched the movie. It just sat on the menu for like three hours. The TV's off.

It's like, it's so beautiful. We're at Disco Go. Oh, are you okay? Beautiful. I think one that. has to be on included for me, for probably most people is a Christmas story.

Oh yeah. It, um, I can come into that movie at any point and do every year now. Well, yeah, you know, we had, it was on a showtime as a kid. Um, and it had actually been on the end of a movie that we had taped and we saw the first 45 minutes of it. I didn't know what it was.

And, We loved it, so we kept trying to catch it. And we ended up on the same tape taping it right afterwards, the movie. And whenever I would watch it, I would watch the first part that I already knew and the whole second recording of it. And then it was gone. Our tape was gone.

You couldn't find it. It was out of print. It was out of print for a long time. Why didn't you just stream it off the internet? Yeah.

And then TBS picked it up and, you. Know, you didn't have to stream it. They streamed it for you. For me growing up, it was always Christmas Vacation just because we had, I mean, that was my family. It was just the odd old relatives to where there was one member in our family where they always had to have everybody over and, you know, my dad is one of seven and I'm one of 18 cousins.

So it's like these huge family gatherings and I'm just like, that's so damn accurate. It's ridiculous. Like, all these people that they have in, you know, the little, like, you know, aunt Bethany, it's like the old Alzheimer's, you know, relatives, like that's always there. And just the relatives to where they just wrap shit up and give it to you. Because, you know, it's like I had an uncle or a great uncle who, um, was a dentist.

And he would actually just give everyone, like, wrapped up bags of, like, dental stuff. Like, when you go to the dentist and they give you, like, a little, like, toothpaste and a little toothbrush, he'd give you, like, a wrapping of, like... It would be, like, four or five toothbrushes, a bunch of, like, toothpaste and floss. You cheap bastard. You got these for free.

But he would usually... Like, the weird thing was there was always candy in with it. Like, I kid you not. It's like, you'd have... toothbrushes and toothpaste but always be like odd candy like not the stuff you find on shelves be like lemon heads and stuff to where you don't typically see that at Walgreens you find it maybe like you know ball games when you're going to tee ball games as a kid or something but you don't see lemon heads on the shelves. Normally I would think he was just like planning ahead and just giving kids candy so he can make money off of them later but I'm assuming you guys got a deal anyway so I mean that doesn't even make sense for me to.

Still make money off the insurance anyway I suppose I mean that's just weird though that's like giving somebody like I don't know just a packet of antibiotics and like some feces. If you're a doctor or something, that's just odd. I think the next Christmas. Yeah. I wouldn't even bother.

You know what? I'm good. Uncle Jimmy. I'm fine. I'm talking about that too.

I think that's just the dentist token of peace that he's used to giving all children. Like, I'm sorry. I traumatized you. You have some candy. Here's a toothbrush.

He just gives it to you. Your dreams have come true. Toothpaste. Have fun. Well, while we're on the, the, vacation thing that was uh one of mine was the original national lampoon's vacation was and that one that one sort of stems from there was again like now i i bitch about comedies because i think most of them now are dumb and i just wrote a whole big piece about dumb modern comedies but like the those there was that run in like you know late 70s through the 80s that like i don't know again i don't know that they were better or if they just hit me at the right time Or I was just at a place where I didn't care.

How dumb they were. But that one I don't think. That one is well written. And, like, that's one of those that they started playing on cable right around that time. And, like, we watched it at our house all the time.

And it's another one of the few that, like, again, like I've said before, there's times when, like, my dad has no idea why I am the way I am. But every once in a while there would be a weird connect. And, like, that was one of those. And, like, that was on so much that we would start doing lines from it. Like, we would just, like, to this day, we'll be at some sort of stupid family gathering.

And I will say, real tomato ketchup. And I can hear from the other side of the room, nothing but the best. Yeah, that's the same way with my family at Christmas. Because, like, you know, my great aunt Olima will sit down. And, you know, it's just, Olima, what would you like?

Oh, what? Oh, and then my brother will just lean over and go. Grace, she passed away 30 years ago. It's just. The constant...

Yeah, just referencing it. I mean, I'll give it to the National Lampoon's vacation movies. They pretty much hit it accurate. I mean, Vegas is... Those two are...

And Europe. Those two are the peaks right there. Europe for me was the one I saw the most, I think. It's one in three. And Vegas, I've only seen like once.

It's... All right. Again. I knew people that liked that one that like came in later and was like, that one's hilarious. And I'm like, it's funny, but it pales in comparison to like the other two are classic, you know, one in three is.

The way to go. And I don't know, Europe, Europe has problem. I don't have a VHS tape. I still have. And this isn't really like a movie that was released in theaters, but you said vacation, um, growing up.

I mean, we could watch that cause it's an R rated film and we didn't have much cable, but, um, Tiny Toons, How I Spent My Summer Vacation. I remember that. It is a VHS I've seen so many times. I still have the tradition or superstition, whatever you call it, watching it every single summer. I still have the same tape I had from when I was like 11 or whenever I got it.

And that's something I can still quote it. Just because the older you get, I like it whenever you can watch cartoons and as a kid you don't pick up on all the jokes, the way they're like winking at adults. But that one, Not all of them have that, but the Warner Brothers stuff always had that. Even the old ones had so many jokes that weren't for kids, and they continued on with Tiny Toons, and I think it got even better with Animania. Yeah, I think just the reason it clicked with me is the whole sequence of Plucky going with Hampton's family to Happy World Land.

I had a friend to where we would go on road trips together, and there's this little moment to where Plucky's sitting in the back just like drenched in sweat. And he's like, hey, pops, do you think you could turn on the air conditioning? He's like, air conditioning? Waste gas. I'll just crack a window.

And she's like, don't you dare, Wade. People think we can't afford air conditioning. He's like, that was my friend's family. Get on. And just, you know, enjoying these trips, but at the same time, it's like, you know, I'm going because I wanted to go with my friend.

It was like, cool, I'm going on a road trip with a friend. But it's like, they're insane. I'm miserable. I can't say anything because I'm a guest. Yeah.

I was totally there every single summer, and it just clicked with me. It's the kind of trip you'd never take as an adult. You'd never choose a group where you liked one person and everyone else drove you crazy. The majority of people were just maniacs. Only when you're a kid when you're trapped and you have a vehicle where you find yourself in that kind of horrible nightmare.

That's true. One for me was so I married an ax murderer, and that was a nice one. Oh, gosh. What led you to that group? Don't even remember anymore.

It became so ingrained. But then it was just, you know, constant quoting. He pans now. And it's just, it's hilarious. You know, the moment when he's playing with the Thighmaster, he goes shooting across the room.

It's fantastic. That, again, was probably him at his peak. Because the more he made movies, the worse he got. Yeah. Really, yeah.

I never got tired of those scenes with his dad, though. Those are the best. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the ones everybody likes. Well, what's good about it is you got enough that you wanted more, but they didn't give you more.

If they would have given you more, it would have gotten old. See, and if he made it now, it would just be nothing but that. Again, he doesn't understand pulling back off of anything comedically. And then, I mean, now I feel like that's all he does is just like take a joke and beat it to death for an hour and a half. And he hadn't gotten to that point yet.

So yeah, that was, that was early in his movie run. So that's, that's for the best real. Yeah. And the way of like this group thinking about that and the way of group movies, it's really common for a group of my friends and I to get together and watch beyond the valley of the dolls. Yeah.

I don't know why. It's just, I think because there's just so much going on in that film. Um, And just, Roger Ebert's just so damned clever. Both him and just Russ Meyer's direction. There's just a lot about that movie that just like clicks and then that's the whole thing is if you haven't seen that before it's like you have no idea how much Austin Powers is referencing that film throughout the course of it so I always.

Get that mixed up with Beyond the Valley of the Ultra Vixens. What's that's another Russ Meyer but that's one I haven't seen that was like later in his career. That one doesn't have a e-bird so okay He had weird periods, like his early stuff and then his later stuff. Like he was like golden in that middle era there where, I mean, again, the stuff gets lumped in for the women that are in it. But I'm like, if you watch it, like he made some really good movies and he actually shot some really good footage that he never gets credit.

For because they close that they're barely wearing. But like he, I still think he had a run where he put out some really good stuff, but don't. Start with the early stuff because the early stuff is just, boring. I was going to say, Faster Pussycat Kill Bill is about as early as you want to start. I don't remember.

It was back-to-back like that and Lorna. Lorna's really good. Nobody's seen Lorna, but again, that run, he was making us right in the middle where he was making good movies. By the end, they just become lightweight porn. In the beginning, he started so early that he couldn't show anything.

Those early ones are almost like the old, it's almost like those weird old. Supposedly racy movies. Well, even older than that. Like, the old, like, Nickelodeon kind of movies where it's like, oh, she's wearing a nightie. I mean, you know.

Show me your gams. Yeah, it's like they couldn't show anything. But, like, he would still set it up like it was almost like a porn setup. Like, something was going to happen enough they never does. So, it's like, he was still trying to make that movie and they wouldn't let him yet.

And then later, he did make that movie. So, it's that middle run where he sort of got over that and just started actually, like, telling the story that, like, yeah, he... He doesn't get credit for the good ones, but you've got to know how to pick his movies. Yeah, it's just, there's so. Much in Dolls.

I mean, just with the music and everything, and Z-Man alone makes that movie. Because, God, every time I see Z-Man, I always think back. I got drugged to a production of Troyes and Cressida at the UofL Playhouse. And, I mean, Shakespeare can be really tedious if people don't know what they're doing. And Collegiate is just... bad and I don't know why but for some reason in this production they were having guys play even the female characters they were old school and I could appreciate that but they were wearing like these plastic novelty breasts like you pick up at Caulfields or something and they were wearing like this see through cloth to where it was just like I can't take this serious and there was just A whole scene where I can't remember which character it is in the play, but they're talking to Helen of Troy.

And just my friend leaned over and just goes, I am Superwoman. And just as soon as that clicked in my mind, I had to excuse myself and go out to the lobby. I'm sure they heard me laughing in the lobby all the way into the theater. And I just feel bad. But, you know, it's just...

There are just some movies to where you have those anecdotes associated with, not so much the movie, but like a movie reference that a friend made at just the right point in time in life, where it's like, I'll always remember that anecdote with that movie, and it just sort of makes it, too. So what you said is your most rewatchable movie is Supergirl. All right, that's what I heard. Yeah, sure. You love Supergirl.

And Space Cowboys, me and Fred get together. And Curly Sue. Yeah. One that I just watched the other night. It's a comfort one for me.

And because comedy-wise, it's got everything from, well, every form of comedy I think is in it is in Clue. It's really one of the best written and best performed comedies I. Think I've ever seen. And everybody is on top of their game, I think, throughout the whole movie. That's one of those that I think it took.

20 years for people to start coming to that conclusion. Cause nobody liked it when he came out, it did terrible. And like, even people who saw it were just like, what the hell is this? And like, and why do I only get one ending in which you didn't get the three until you get the video. So, I mean, it was like, I don't know.

It didn't like, there are some great performances. I'll watch Madeline common anything, but like there and. Tim Curry, like, I mean, there's some great performances in there, but like, it just did not click with the public at the time. Um, But it's funny, now I will hear a whole new generation of people, and I think it's like those kids that caught it really early on cable and kind of grew up with it, too. And I think now they're just like, they reference it as this great comedy from.

When they were a kid, but it took that long. Before people came around and started going, well, you know, actually, it's pretty. Well put together. In New York and L.A. and some theaters, they actually do the stage show like they do with Rocky Horror. Yeah.

Which, I mean, again, I can see that. It lends itself to that. You know, there were, that was, I noticed this past time, there are a lot of parallels between Rocky Horror and Clue anyways. If you watch them, I'm not going to get into it, maybe. A different episode.

It was a big dark house and there were people in there. Right. And a broken down car and people are dying and Tim Curry. But, yeah, it's, yeah, I was kind of taking mental notes. I was like, what, what, you know, you can almost see a lot of parallels in the two of them.

But, Maybe people didn't know what to do with it because you never thought when you're playing the game Clue, like, this is so funny. This is so funny. I'm going to murder you in the library with a rope. This is hilarious. Well, I mean, it is weird if you think about it that they went comedy with it.

Like, you could almost see them doing, like, a movie of the week kind of thing, you know? Like, a really self-serious, like, you know, a bad, like, knockoff Agatha Christie kind of. made-for-TV movie almost. But, like, Taking it comedy and then bringing in Tim Curry and the whole run there. You see how well it goes over when they do serious battleships. That was a classic.

In 20 years, they're going to come around. You just wait. If people are watching that in 20 years, I'm going to stop watching movies. I'm waiting for them to make a Don't Wake Daddy film. That could be a horror film.

I can't wait until the new. IMAX 3D Guess Who. I'm waiting until that happens. Do you ever see people out in the real world that you swear straight from a Guess Who? Yeah.

I flipped you down the other night. They still perfectly represent a person with a mustache. It's new. I swear. Because you can slide the cards in and out, and I've always thought a dozen times over it would be really fun to have some movie geek friends come over and have character actors on there.

You've got Jeffrey Jones and Dan Hedaya and Madeline Kahn. Everybody's in there. Can we put this together and start marketing? I'm sure we'll get sued, but when does that stop us? I say we do that.

Sounds good. We can hold down exclusive. We can call it You Know Who. That one guy. There we go, that one guy.

You know the one guy. Yeah, I think that's the way to go. Or what a character or something like that. That would be fun. Yeah.

But yeah, I'm trying to think. Everybody pretty much had a great deal of work before and after Clue, save whoever plays Miss White. Because, I mean, Martin Mull, I mean, he's had a lot of goofiness. I mean, my favorite Martin Mull is still Gene Parmesan from Arrested Development. But, you know, Madeline Kahn and Eileen Brennan, of course, Christopher Lloyd, you know, really everybody, save...

And we're all going to blank on whoever the actress is that even played. Eileen Brennan? Is that her name? No, that was... No, that's Peacock.

It was Peacock. Why was that the game? Mrs. White is... Yeah, no.

Leslie Ann Warren? Sorry, IMDB didn't look it up. Yeah, that's... Mrs. White is Madeline Kahn.

No, Madeline Kahn is. Ms. Scarlet isn't... No, no, no. I'm sorry.

No, it's Leslie Ann Warren. Never mind. I was. You're right. Because, yeah.

Okay. Never mind, then. The maid wasn't anybody. No, you're right. That was Colleen Camp, wasn't it?

I don't know. It's sad that I can tell you who the maid is. But, yeah, it was Leslie Ann Warren was Ms... Ms. Scarlet.

Ms. Scarlet. Okay, not to be... Okay, I almost wanted to go say Leslie Ann Down. Welcome back to ClueCast.

Yeah, okay. Take a snack, Rick. What? Well, I suppose I'm obligated to say I've seen Dick Tracy a couple times. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

If you guys have missed the previous episode, he's got an obsessive problem. It's called Dick Tracy. Which episode was that that I admit to? Probably at the Oscar party because we're sitting very close to the shrine that is the. Did we go into the Dick Tracy room?

You showed it off to some of the other people, but we didn't do... I told you we were going to do a Dick Tracy episode, and we need to just do it from in the middle of the Dick Tracy room. We can just set up a card table. They have no idea. Andrew walked in and just said, Jesus fuck, this is creepy.

Yeah. No, it was... You gave me a heads up. Just tell me how obsessed you were. Yeah, I always prep people.

They need it, really. Just so you know. It's like, you know, the three things about my house. It's like, I don't let people wear shoes in there just because, you know, you're getting the same pee that's on, like, bathroom floors and the carpet and that. That's weird, too.

But feel free. And, you know, I got cats in case you're allergic, and I kind of like Dick Tracy. So those are the three heads up. Kind of like Dick Tracy. Bit.

Just so you know. Oh, man. There is not a room in the world that has more Dick Tracy in it. Is there? I mean, I don't know.

I can't imagine. Is there a Dick Tracy museum somewhere? There used to be, but it's sadly closed. Yeah. So.

They relocated it to your house. Oh. You have the best ratio of most Dick Tracy and least pee. It does. There seems something wrong with that.

Seems like you need to see a doctor about that. But, you know, cats walk around in their own excrement, but you won't let people that have walked around in people excrement. No, but they lick their paws. So if I licked my shoes, you'd let me walk around your house? Yes.

Okay. Yes. Sounds like a challenge. Future episode right there. I'm never going to.

All right. Well, there's plenty of others. I'm just going to throw some out. We'll see. I mean, there was one that the more I thought about it, I was like, oh, my God.

It became so ingrained with my childhood, and it's another one of those that as I got older, I not only liked it more, I came to appreciate it so much more. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. I understand. I watched that. Tons as a kid, but it was years later, I went, oh my god, this is genius.

The stuff that's going on that are. Just sort of laid right under the surface. It's right there for you to see if you're paying attention. But there's some creepy stuff going on. Some really weird dialogue that gets worked in very casually that you're like, wait, did he just say that?

Okay. Okay. And see, that's something I didn't like about the Tim Burton one is, I mean, that's one of the things, but, you know, when you watch the old Gene Wilder Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, it's like, it's not until you're an adult that you realize, okay, this is kind of clever. They put some really creepy stuff almost sort of under the carpet here. It's very, very subtle, whereas in the Johnny Depp one, it's just blatant.

It's just blatantly trying to be creepy and trying to be eccentric and I mean, that was one of the things. The other thing is it just becomes the Johnny Depp show after a while. Every movie with Johnny Depp in it. Yeah. Enough that he has to retire.

Edward Scissorhands, it's not. There's so much of. That that's not about him. That was before he had the turn. Right, right.

That was pre-E. Ed Wood was probably the turning point. No, no. Helena Bonham Carter was the turning point. I've on many an episode pinned it on her.

That's where it all changes. Hell in a bottom scapegoat. Homewrecker is how I refer to it. Anyway, just saying. Just done it twice.

All right. But, I mean, while we're on that, if we go back further, like a lot of his stuff early on, Beetlejuice was another one of mine. Beetlejuice and Pee-wee's Big Adventure. I can watch any of those. Like, yeah, without even thinking about it, I will just be engrossed in it.

Because, again, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, it's one of those movies, like I was talking about earlier, to where the screen is saturated with just silliness, especially when you're in his house. And it's just, you pick up so many more things. You could put it on mute, and it's funny, just looking at the odd expressions. Like when he's in the car with Mickey, and he's talking about cutting the mattress tag off, and just he's, Reaching back. That or his expression was with large march, too.

The whole time he's like inching away and just this terror is growing on his face. And you watch as an adult, it's like, how silly is it that he just gets in the car? He's like, thanks for the ride. And she's like, 10 years ago. She just goes right into it without any, like, prompting or transition.

That's the best scene ever. Yeah. Do you know how much, because my kids were watching it, and they loved it. They fell in love with Pee Wee's Big Adventure right away. They weren't terrified by Large Marge.

They were, but I prepped them for that part. I said there's going to be an extremely scary part. And they knew ahead of time. But they thought it was a lot like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. And the more I thought about it, he was innocent but wise, very physical about himself.

Not necessarily that the comedy was slapstick, fall around, but just his motions and reactions to things. And some of those scenes, especially, you could picture... like you say, with Mickey and driving in the car, you could just picture him riding along in that, Bugs Bunny riding along in that car in that same scene happening. And it's a series of, like, miniature episodes or cartoons, too. It's like, this is him with Mickey, this is the episode with him, and, you know, the big fellow who chases him out of the dinosaur. I can't think of that.

Andy. Andy, thank you, Andy. Andy! Yeah. And then at the end you get the curtain call of everybody.

It's just, yeah, like it's set up like a Looney Tunes. And I thought that was very good. And it is. It's a kid's, it's an adult movie, but it's also a kid's movie. Which actually in the way of Stuff to Worry, I could.

I could watch this so many times, and it is very Looney Tunes inspired. It's Gremlins 2, the new batch. I can't remember the last time I saw Gremlins. It's probably been years since I saw Gremlins. Gremlins 2, the new batch, I love it.

It's time for a revisit. I need to spend some time with the new batch. Just because they've got all the fake television networks going on and the clamp and all the different businesses. I mean, there is so much within the clamp building that's just, It's like if anybody with Joe Dante's team had any kind of idea, it's like, yeah, let's just go with it. Let's just throw it in there.

You know, a split-second shot of Christopher Lee walking out with a pod, like, you know, from Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and he just sits it down. It's just so many subtle, subtle things that are just going on. You know, it's just... Your love for Gremlins 2. I love Gremlins 2, the new hatch.

Having, again, just sat there with Zach Gilligan, who really is sick to death of Gremlins, so... It's funny that you still love it. But Gremlins, I kind of watch and I feel like it's, to me, like watching Gremlins and then Gremlins 2 is like watching Evil Dead and then Evil Dead 2. It's pretty close, yeah. To where the second film, it's so self-realized as to what it is.

The first one didn't quite know. It changes its mood completely, yeah. It's like, do I want to be more horror? Do I want to be comedy? Whereas the second one, it becomes a parody of the first one and it's just so much more fun.

And more Gremlin variety. Yeah. That's what they want. And I think the Gremlins look better, too, in it. I mean, Rick Baker's doing them instead of Chris Whaless.

They had like six years to improve the effect. Rick Baker's doing them instead of Chris Whaless because Chris Whaless vied not to do it so he could direct the fly, too. And that went really well. Yeah. If we want to hit some of the horror stuff, I was trying to think of good tie-in.

Halloween doesn't ever. Yeah. The first. The only one of the run that I can just endlessly. I never.

Like, it's still amazing to me how, like, interesting and enthralling that movie is. I can watch The Shining. Every day, probably. I don't know if I want to watch that one. That one would creep me out.

It still does. It still works. I mean, Halloween kind of does, but I don't know. Shining just kind of pushes you over the edge. But there's so much in it, especially after watching.

Documentaries. Room 237. Did you see that documentary? I didn't, but I watched. The guys that did it, they had kind of like.

Build-up documentaries. There's several of them online that you can watch. All the different conspiracy theories, they'll spend 35-40 minutes on each one. It really makes you... Even if none of them are true, it really makes you appreciate because you know there's something going on.

He definitely poured a lot into The Shining, and it's not just by accident. How many documentaries does anybody here have one that's a rewatchable documentary? I really like King of Kong. Yeah, I was going to say, that's the only one that pops in my mind that I watch a lot, but I don't know if it's something I can just pop it in and watch at any time. Yeah, there's one or two that I think are amazing and, like, are right up there with any movie.

Like, I could watch it through the gift shop a lot. Yeah. I mean, I love Chrome. I mean, I think it's one of the best shot movies, period, regardless of documentary. It's just amazing, but.

Again, I don't know that I want to watch it every day. It's a creepy story. Yeah, Chris, off the charts, have you guys seen that? It's worth seeing. It's got some really catchy tunes.

There's a lot of really funny characters in it. It's about people that call it song poems or something. They send their lyrics out to Nashville. I know what that one is. Some professional studio will spend like five minutes turning your piece of lyric art into a little shiny little turd.

And it's one of those documentaries that there's going to be at least three scenes. You're not going to watch the whole thing all the time, but you'll put on just these scenes. And be like, oh, I just got to get my fix. Well, if that's... Okay, Computer Tour.

Yeah. I forget the name of it, but it's beautiful to watch. You just kind of watch it and I suddenly want to make art all the time. So, it's cool. In a way, it's beautiful.

Both Baraka and Samsara, I can just put on and just like, Greg was saying earlier, just have it on in the background. And the problem with that is I'll just stop and just become transfixed again. But either one of those, you know, it's just they're utterly beautiful, so I never tire of watching either one. I was just thinking, I mean, there was just so many big ones. And i guess it's one of those do you if it if it gets to that point that it's so huge do you throw that one out like i don't know because i mean to me isn't everybody gonna say jaws like there's so many people.

That still reference jaws as like you know the best dark yeah say you know. Well, see, I would definitely go with that one, too. But, like, I mean, Jaws has, like, worked itself so into the pop culture at this point that, like, so many movies steal the plot. Like, the plot itself, the whole framework from it. I mean, everybody references lines from it.

Like, it's just so ingrained in pop culture now. Well, it's ingrained in, like, our generation. But, you know, that's what I was kind of thinking. I wonder, you give, you know, another ten years or so, and You take teenagers now, and then once they're our age, what are they going to be re-watching? It'll be interesting to see how much of it drops off and the stuff that are the classics of that era that we started making classics.

We grew up with movies like Goonies and that, and we've watched them to death. But it's like, what will prevail? You hear that somebody hasn't seen Empire Strikes Back. You're like, really? Really?

But, you know, you give it like 10, 15 years, what are going to become those really movies at that point? I feel like District 9 has that kind of potential. I'll watch that again the other night, and it's like, man, this is something I could watch all the time. It has a lot of really value, and there's something to it. I can see that being kind of a classic.

It's just smartly put together. Or any of the Edgar Wright stuff, you know, Hot Fuzz or Sean Vitter. Even like, I know it's not... I can't remember who directed it. He didn't do Attack the Block.

Who was that? He produced it, I think, didn't he? Yeah, well, or it's got. It's got somebody's name on it that's associated with it. Yeah, it's associated with them, and it's got one crossover actor out of the bunch.

But yeah, it's not exactly like that, but it's definitely pretty great. And I would say that one would be... I need to go back and re-watch it now that I'm thinking about it, because I was really. Really happy with that one. I heard they were going to remake Jaws.

Have you guys heard that? They're always remaking everything, and some stuff drops off the map. I thought the old boy remake had dropped off the map until I was like, oh, there's a trailer now. It's real now, yeah. But at least early talks were having Will Smith, so at least I think it can be a little bit more tolerable with Josh Brolin.

And who's the antagonist against Josh Brolin? Do we know, or is that... I'm sure I don't remember. Which I can't imagine, just because Park Chan-wook's stuff is so stylized. I can't imagine trying to remake something of his.

There's some directors I feel like it's really tough to remake their movies because there's so much of their personality and style in it. It would be like remaking City of Lost Children or something. It wouldn't feel right. I just thought popped in my head, I just wonder if anybody would be bold enough to take the trouble to remake an entire movie. But, so it's like, oh, who's playing, Josh Brolin's playing this part.

Who's the antagonist? Oh, it's a talking piece of beef jerky. Like, they actually had just somebody in costume and just a talking piece of beef jerky. He's playing the same role that they did in the original, but he's beef jerky this time. Like, and if they really followed through, then he was in the trailer and everything.

Yeah. That would be crazy, right? Yeah, I think it would. Is that your next project? That would be crazy.

That would just be like, this is a sign that this person needs to go to meds. Andrew, do you always look this confused when your brother's talking? I was trying to remember what movie. I was trying to picture the beef jerky in the roll, but I couldn't remember what movie we were talking about. Let's say they remade Raiders of the Lost Ark, and the French guy is played by a big jerky.

So you're saying that like an old boy... the beef jerky would be, like, copping a feel off of its sister? Like, what would its sister be? Yeah, he plays it straight. He plays it just like the actor would play it, only he's jerky. Wearing the same clothes that the guy would be wearing.

And if that director actually followed through with that and got people to make that movie, people, I feel like everybody would think they were in a dream or something. That would be crazy. I mean, there's equally as weird stuff out there, truthfully. You just have to go find it. I mean, That one, it's just that there's that one element.

But, I mean, there's plenty of stuff that's equally as ridiculous that it got made. With beef jerky. Whether or not it has beef jerky is a whole different thing. There's many a movie that... What is as weird as remaking Raise the Lost Ark with beef jerky as the French guy?

Anything by Harmony Corrine, I would guess. Yeah. That seems easy. I mean, he's trying to do that, but I'm trying to think. I mean, there's stuff that I've watched lately that I'm just like, who let this happen?

I mean, who let this happen in a good way or in a bad way? Kind of both. It depends. Go back and watch House 2 or House. I mean, that's a wonder.

That one's genius. This is so damn surreal. Yeah. I love it. But yeah, I mean, that is one that like, there is talking food and, like, food that comes to life.

A man turns into a man. Yeah, I mean, he gets. Away with that kind of stuff. So, I mean, there's weird stuff like that out there. You've got to get your project financed.

Because I remember trying to explain House to someone. They're like, well, what's it about? And I said, well, there's a group of girls that go to the house and this... aunt is a vampire but rather than drinking their blood directly the house consumes them and she gets the blood and you're like well how does the house kill them I said well there's this one girl that looks into the mirror and when she's looking into the mirror she then turns into like fragments of glass that catch on fire and she catches on fire and she goes into the. Mirror and that's the more normal that's one of the more normal deaths it's oh the piano Goldman machine for blood yeah I don't know. That's again, there's weird stuff out there.

That one's just kind of genius though. It took me a while to come to terms with it. I was just confused that first time, but the more I think about it now, I'm like, wow, it's an amazing movie. And there's like a, there's almost like the Alice in Wonderland version of, um, house. Uh, it's, um, Lamora, like Lamora child's tale and Lamora girl's tale.

I can't remember the name of it, but it's just this girl who, um, She's going to visit her relatives in the woods. And as she's riding on this bus, it's extremely stylized, the way that they've shot, like almost Suspiria-esque lighting. And she's just riding through the woods, and you hear these weird barking and stuff, but it's like these half-human, half-wolf creatures that are just running up to the bus. Like she goes from being in a very normal world to just something very nightmarish, fairytale-like, and just it never really seems to affect her. And there's witches, but yet there's, like, mixed.

It's like you have witches, and then the next scene you'll have, like, you know, hellfire Baptist preachers. It's very dreamlike as well. Where there's smoke, there's fire. I think Silver Bullet was a horror movie I've probably seen a lot in my life, too, partly because of B.C. 's laugh in that movie as Uncle Red.

But that's got a lot of replay value, I think. I haven't seen it in a while, but it is one of those I loved and saw a lot on cable, and now I need to go back. Again, this just makes you, you know, I do need to watch that again, but this is like the reminder of this. I'll tell you what, even if it's the TV-edited version of Volume 1 of Kill Bill... It's almost like you get on, you know, when you're strapped into a rollercoaster, not that it's a rollercoaster of a movie, but when you're strapped in parts of it, you have to go like you can't, you can't, you can't not complete it once you've started.

And because everything is just one right after the other, right after the other, it's nonstop action. And there's no, you know, like where, where, where do they even put commercials in this? If it's on TV, because there's no stop and you have to just, Like I said, stay strapped in and finish it out, and you're like, okay, I can breathe now. I think two is a better movie, but one, I think... One is entertaining to no end.

You can't not watch it once it's on, I think. Well, I mean, that's one of the ones I threw out in my list there. I was like, just Tarantino in general. And like, Pulp Fiction, again, is one that's like so overblown at this point, but at the same time, you turn it on for a minute, you're. Going to finish it.

Like, you can't not. Like, it's one of those you think is, like, you know, oversold at this point, and then you go back and watch it, and you're. Like, damn. It's like, it's a well-written movie. It depends, because Jackie Brown, I think, is a great movie, but it's not something I can watch over and over.

That's the thing. I think that, and that may even be a better movie, but it, like, I could watch Pulp Fiction again, and I've done it, like, recently. I saw it on cable, and it was, like, two minutes in, and I was like, I've already seen it. oh and like two and a half hours later i was like holy shit i just watched this movie again and i've got a copy of it over there and like just like get sucked into that and like his and again it's hit and miss because i wouldn't have necessarily thought it but i just re-watched reservoir dogs and that's how i did it i something else ended and it was coming on and i thought i was gonna leave the room and do something else and the whole movie and i was just like damn, this thing is well put together.

So maybe it was his hit and miss kind of stuff, because you can't say that about all of his, but definitely those three that we've thrown out there. Are ones that I will get sucked in every time. Reservoir Dogs never clicked with me. I can say objectively, it's like a solid film, but it just never really appealed to me. It's one I liked a lot the first time around, and again, it's over the years now, I go back and look at how it's structured and how well those performances just kind of work, and he hit the right people at the right place in their career.

And it just, yeah, I don't know. I think it, it took me a while to realize how like perfectly all that stuff came together. It was usual suspects. That was a great one. Yeah.

Yeah. Which actually leads me to a question I wanted to ask with the, because they're so popular now. You were a plant and we didn't even know this. And now who knew? Twist movies.

Are they normally something you come back to? Something with a major plot twist. Like dancing movies? I like Twister. You just like Jimmy Kirk.

It's like Bill Paxton. Bill Paxton and Philip Seymour Hoffman. I'm ignoring all this bullshit. This last 20 years, there's been this huge run. I still have my Twister I got from Suncoast.

The little water one? I have one of those too. Let's just keep talking about Twister until he forgets what he brought up. Look out! That's my favorite quote.

Look out! See no evil here. Anyway. Do you want to throw up in the drain? No, is the rewatchability there, though?

Because that is so, like, everything hinges on that. I think so, because Twister is just a lot of fun. It's like one of those good movies to put on, like, if there's storm warnings out, severe weather, it's a fun one to put on. Isn't that Fred's favorite movie, Twister? It might be.

It's up there with Space Cowboys and Curly Sue. If only the viewers could see the look on Brian's face right now. I'm just ignoring you. Good to bend over. It depends on what kind of, to answer your question, what kind of movie with a twist it is.

Because if it's a great movie, like Usual Suspects, the twist is really not, it doesn't matter. It depends on whether it banks on the twist or not. Like Sixth Sense banks on the twist, and I think it's... Once you know it, it's almost unwatchable because it's just damn boring leading up to that. I mean, that was the one I originally thought of.

And I think the first time through, I was fine with that movie. And it is like that moment of, you know, you really, if you didn't have it ruined for you, didn't necessarily see it coming. Going back, trying to enter it again, and knowing that throws everything off. I mean, that's almost valid. You could say the same with horror films, whether horror films would be rewatchable or not, because if it's a horror film where it relies on the surprises and scares, if you know they're coming, it takes away that anxiety, and it's just you aren't as into the film.

I think it depends on the movie. Psycho is one to me where you know the scene is. In the shower is coming. You've seen it. You know every cut of it.

You know how the blood goes down the drain. But it's still scary as hell. And you're actually building up to it. It still works. All these years later, it still works.

And I think, to me, the scariest horror movies are the mentally horror. Yeah, The Tenant still creeps me out every time I see it. Because the whole scene where he finally goes to the bathroom in his apartment building after he's been watching everyone through binoculars is they'll just walk in and stare at the wall for hours unmoving and he's just like what the hell are these people doing in the bathroom and when he finally goes in there and he sees all the weird hieroglyphics have just been carved etched into the wall and then he looks out the window and he sees himself like with binoculars look at himself it's like that's just terrifying And that's when suddenly the movie's at the tipping point in the next hour or so.

It just gets more surreal and more nightmarish. I think it's the ones where it relies more on psychological horror. Because if it just relies on shocks, you can't watch them over and over. I mean, slasher films, unless they're self-aware and tongue-in-cheek slasher films, I don't think they work. When I had written down of the horror, I still can watch the first Scream movie.

And I think it's very self-aware. I think it's self-aware, and it's got fun dialogue, and it works little things along the way. But, yeah, I mean, it's even kind of gotten cheesier over the years when I go back and watch it now. But it's still, like, again, it's almost more the way that it's structured and how, like, pieced together everything is, knowing how all horror movies before it have worked, really. That's always had trouble getting into the Twilight Zone.

You know, I loved The Outer Limits growing up to death. The Twilight Zone's always relied on that twist, and it's like, once you know the twist, that's kind of it. Same with most M. Night Shyamalan films. It's like, the only one of his that I feel like has good rewatchability is Unbreakable.

That's, yeah. That's a good movie. It's definitely a good movie. That's my favorite superhero movie oh that's what i was gonna say i think they expected a superhero movie like spider-man or something like that it's like no you're not going to get something it's more clever than the audience that was appealing to the broadest. Sense so it definitely didn't work at the theater and again it's another one of those that i think it took this long like it's just recently in the last five or six years i've Now I hear people going, oh, that's his best movie.

At the time, everybody hated it, and nobody wanted anything to do with it. But it's like everybody goes looking at his other stuff, and I'm like, no, actually he was on to something here. He should have stuck with this idea. I have a personal connection with that movie because his weakness, his superhero weakness, is when he gets in water, he always seems to breathe it in. And people make fun of that movie because they're like, that's not anyone's actual weakness.

I'm like, no, that happens to me. I've had so many shameful, embarrassing swimming stories in my life. You have no idea. I totally get how this could be someone's weakness. I won't even go there.

Do you get sick? No, man. I guess I don't. I dance. I do a twist.

Now a question for your brother. Are your bones made of glass? Are you Samuel L. Jackson? That's just a normal question.

Are you Samuel L. Jackson? He just kind of went right for it. But anyway, I. Next time I.

Interview somebody for the theater here, it's just, you know, in between, it's like, what hours are you available for? And, you know, it's just, is this a good starting point? It's like, are you Samuel L. Jackson? If I was, I wouldn't tell you.

I wouldn't tell you. And they're like, no. Okay, just keep going. Would you hire someone who was able to hide the fact that they were Samuel L. Jackson?

Would you be impressed with that, or would you want to keep distance from that person? I don't know. It's like, would I want to hire them because they were Samuel L. Jackson but hiding it, or because they just said yes to the question when I asked? I think it would just be impressive if they just went right through it, like the rest of the questions.

They were like, no, no, and just kept going. It's like, are you Samuel L. Jackson? Samuel L. Jackson from Changing Lanes, but that's the only one.

I had nothing to do with that Snakes on a Plane bullshit, so I'll have you know now, I will not get hired if you think that's who I am. I will walk right out of here. I can be Samuel L. Jackson. That's later after hours.

If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll be Samuel L. Jackson. So now, what I want to know is, if you've got all these movies, how many of them have we pulled from recently? Everything. I started going through, and it's like everything I was.

I mean, have any of yours that. You can think of that you would think of as rewatchable been from in the last five years or so? There's a movie I like to rewatch. It's Easy A. Okay.

It's kind of cheesy. That's at least reason. At the same time, it's really funny and intelligent. So. I do like her.

Some dudes might like her. She's pretty fun. I like her. I don't know, because I'm thinking most of it is so much older. I was trying to think how many of them are more like a weird nostalgia. that we've attached to each of these movies, that whether it's good, bad, or otherwise, that that's almost what makes it more rewatchable.

Like if I said Joan Carpenter's a thing, you'd think, well, the 80s, grew up watching it. No, I didn't even see it until I was like 24 or something. That was on my list, too. But it's one that I kind of fell in love with. So that's why I'm sitting here trying to think.

There's been movies recently that I fell in love with, but they're older films. I'm trying to think of the last... new, new film. Rubber, I would say, is probably one. I mean, there's stuff that I really like made recently, but. Again, it's not something I've gone back and watched over and over and over again.

I mean, the most I've seen anything in the last several years is twice, you know? It's like, I just don't seem to return. But again, I mean, now I just don't get a chance to watch a ton of movies that aren't for the show. So, maybe it would change if I just randomly put stuff in all day long, but now I'm just sort of pinning down specific stuff that we talk about. So maybe that factors in for me.

I don't know. Yeah, Brain Candy's one I've seen a couple dozen times since I first discovered it last summer. But again, that's an older film. That's what I was thinking. Even everything I made the list of, like Pulp Fiction, seems like it's recent.

No, 20 years old. It's 20 years old, yeah. I'm like, that seems like a newer movie to me in my brain. But no, no, it's like 20 years old, so... I don't know.

It seems like most of this stuff is just stuff that... At first I thought Napoleon Dynamite, because I like that, but that's 10 years old. It's like 10 years old. It's scary. I'm trying to be purposely nostalgic for the 80s.

That's true. The Dark Knight's definitely a comfy pants movie for me. I put them all in comfy pants. Yeah. I do too.

That one's... I have watched it recently again, but again, that's still only like the second or third time I've seen it. Like it's... i can't even watch it i'll put it on and it only feels right if it's on the background because i'll start to watch it i'm like ah i've seen this many times i'm just back to it it's a made-up See. I just don't put them on in the background because I know I won't get anything else done. Like, I can turn on TV because TV is usually really bad, and I don't want to see what's on TV.

But I can't put on a movie I like and expect to do something else because I won't. I'll just get sucked in, which is how all these movies made it on the list. I think, like, it's not even that new either, but, like, Idiocracy is one that I could return to. two multiple times. I'm just thinking hard trying to think last year. Yeah.

Like something that's been released within the year. There's stuff that I think is good but still like not something that I'd be like anxiously waiting for the release date. I would just constantly put it on over and over again. Like I can't think of anything lately that has felt like that. And that's why I wonder if it's more I would say Samsara.

Samsara I've watched dozens of times since I got it back in January. So I mean that would be one. But Now if you go to a nursing home, you see old episodes of The Jeffersons and Sanford and Sons shit. But now when we're old enough to be in nursing homes, you'll see me in a wheelchair and the dark night is going on in my room just constantly. Well, see, I thought about that too.

40 years from now, are you going to go into nursing homes and hear Eminem playing? Because that's what people grew up with. That's going to be very weird. It'd be cool to show your grandkids, like, Dr. Dre the Chronic, you know?

This is what we used to listen to when I was your age. These kids get around. Oh, it was so juvenile, or, you know, so, yeah, so innocent, talking about the Chronic. Well, you know, that makes me think of, like, remakes, and try not to hate them so much, because, like, I. Grew up with the 80s.

80s had some solid remakes. But, I mean, I grew up with. The 80s Invasion of the Body Smashers with Donald Sutherland, and I thought it was awesome, and It was years before I even realized it was a remake, and that was one that totally, I think, needed to be remade. Well, it's because they did so much new with them. I mean, you compare the 80s blob to the original, it's like two completely different worlds.

And that's one I just watched recently. I'd seen bits and pieces of it on cable, but I hadn't sat down and watched it until in the past year. And I was like, damn, this is really... They did. So much more than I expected out of that.

And I love the concept that in that one, the blob, in the first one, they don't explain. It's like some alien creature. But this one, it's like, oh, no, it's bacteria that we sent up as an experiment. Yeah, we did it. Like all of our stuff, we did it.

You know, it just popped into my head. I think recent multiple watches for me, probably because I have kids, but our movie is like up. I can watch that one. They'll put that on, and that's one of the few that I'll sit down and re-watch with them. It's just a really well-made movie.

Like the Toy Story movies, you could re-watch those. When I was in Beijing staying with my friend, he's got a five-year-old and a two-year-old. They want to watch movies over and over. There were two that they wanted to watch over and over. Rio, which...

It wasn't bad. You know, I'd never seen it before. And they really kept putting it in and watching over and over. And, mama mia. Oh, my gosh.

So I would, like, I would be out, you know, just, like, drinking until 2 in the morning. And then I would bike home from, you know, whatever, like, bar I found in some nook in Beijing. And then at, like, 6.45 in the morning, all of a sudden, you know, I'd just hear, like, you know, mama mia, I did it. It's, like, And, you know, I would just, like, wake up, and she's like, Uncle Bo! Hey!

It's Mamma Mia! Yeah, it is! They're all dead. They're silly! You know, Mira, I gotta ask you, like, when you watch a movie like this, look at the way the women are behaving in this.

You don't see this as a negative stereotype. It's just completely negating all that women fought for with the women's rights movement. I mean, here, the entire film was about these women who were just desperately vying for you know some male in their life and the protagonist is a woman that's fooled around so much she doesn't know who her daughter's father is they're silly yes i see that exactly why don't you turn it down. I go back to bed well that's that's why i thought maybe it was tied more to nostalgia because that's something that's very kid like anyway like every kid does that like why do they just watch things on a loop like we grow up and don't necessarily like rewind that watch again like i don't know kid i watch my my nieces and nephews do it and i watch their parents complain to me about it and i'm just like yeah but as an adult it's just like that i don't know.

I used to watch like the jungle book and most disney movies all the time as a kid i don't really go back and re-watch those as an adult and not that i have anything against them it's just you know i I don't have that inner drive. It's just something programmed different in your brain at that point. And I don't know if you just get out of it as you get older. I don't know. I think like now on some level, like I remember, I know more of how much I enjoyed something the first time.

And so part of me doesn't want to play it so much that I memorize every line because I want to kind of go back to that scene for the first time. It's kind of like albums. There are some albums and I'll listen to them and think, you know, I'm going to put this away for a while because I want to hear it fresh again. Yeah, I don't want to wear it out. That's almost a grind topic for the future is children's movies that endure and those that don't.

Well, I think you've thrown out the next topic, so I think we should put a cap on this one. Again, I think we could do this all day. I mean, there are so many we didn't get to that people are going to be like, I can't believe you didn't talk about Princess Bride. You know, you're right. Yeah.

And watch it all day long. Why don't you talk about it? I think it's just asking for responses from you guys and from a sequel. So later we'll have to come back and reboot this thing. Revisit.

Rewatch. No, I don't think that applies. Don't they need to break out their secret decoder rings because the movie we're watching next week is going to be... Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins. it's a couple of weeks. Off but if you'd like to clue them in as a tie-in to the upcoming uh movie geek art show you know the greatest thing ever uh we're going to come back and watch a film called beautiful losers if you're not familiar with it it's currently on netflix it is a documentary about art and artists and how all of this comes together and what it means, or none of that possibly.

Brian's going to be an artist if he can patch this last 20 minutes together seamlessly for the show. It's called edit it all out. Just put it all on top of each other so it just sounds like. A crowd of people. Kind of did for him.

So yes, watch it now and then that way you won't complain because you don't know what we're talking about because you've had fair warning. So there you go. Alright, anything else you need to pass along this episode? I've been eating popcorn this whole time very silently. We're very proud of you.

He's a ninja when it comes to popcorn eating. Just let it dissolve. You've succeeded. It's worked pretty well. Thank you.

Alright, then I guess we should thank the Baxter for letting us loiter around in this room and whether or not Bo gets fired, we'll find out. I'm not sure. I'm looking around at all these posters trying to figure out if any of these I would consider rewatchable. Best in show, maybe. Best in show, I've watched many times.

I ain't watching none of these. Tenenbaums, yeah. They're all fancy. Isn't this your favorite movie? My big Greek Big fat Greek wedding.

That ran for ten and a half months. It used to be. I would not die here. We'll return next week. Go ahead.

Same geek channel, same geek feed. Is that the sign off? Relatively close. It's not my line, so I don't know it. You should have it memorized.

Otherwise that about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening. I'm an average man.

With an average life. I work from nine to five. And hell, I. Pay the price. Just want to be left alone in my average home.

But what do I always feel? Like I'm in the twilight zone I always feel like somebody's watching. Me And I. Have no privacy I always feel like somebody's watching me Tell me. Is it just a dream?

When I come home at night I bolt the door real tight People call me on the phone. I'm trying to avoid But can the people on TV see me or am I just paranoid? When I'm in the shower, I'm afraid to wash my hair. Cause I might open my eyes and find someone standing there. People say I'm crazy.

I'm just a little touched. But maybe shells remind me of psycho too much. Cause. I always feel like somebody's watching. Me I always.

Feel like somebody's watching me Tell me, is it just a dream? I always feel like somebody's watching me. Check out your palm of your hand. I'm not a palm reader, but let. Me check out the palm of your hand.

Let me see the other hand. Okay, see how your right hand has a line that goes directly across? Your left hand doesn't. That's true. Right?

Right. So his hands are not mirror images of one another. Is that regular? Yeah. But see, because I have lines that go straight across for us all.

Right across the hand. There and there. And it's not common to have a lion's throne. Side to side of his hand. And you only have it on the one hand.

So wait a minute, who's the weirdo? Take your pick in this room. That's a fresh, unworn shirt, isn't it? That is a fresh-ass shirt from, what, 1990? I wore it a lot back in the day.

And which fresh do you mean from the day? Because, you know, back then there were two types of fresh when you came in, when you were referring to a shirt, so. All kinds of fresh, that shirt is. No, now it just smells like it's been sitting in a box for 15 years. Well, first of all, that is strange, I think, that it's not...

Yeah, because it's really normal for, like, a guest to sit down and raise, like, let me see your pants. It is. That's going to be like one of the little quotes that he puts at the end. Not really. None of that was here.

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