It Gives Me Purpose and Direction in Life

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Kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian and I am joined today by the magic of the internet by Sam. Haha, you are back. Sucker got lured in that.

Happens pretty regular i mean you're a default co-host now whether you like it or not so fine it's fine it's only taken you know 17 years. Yeah yeah it gives me purpose and direction in life brian so i appreciate it it's. Good that you know have something to do for the day you know otherwise what the hell are either of us doing really. I'm just I got my cork board and my my ball of yarn and uh you know that I'm out of yarn right now so I was going like what am I going to do this Sunday. I don't doubt that actually that actually seems about right yeah.

Yeah yeah so I was going like man maybe Brian's going to do an episode and so yeah lo and behold so yeah I'll go to I'll go to Michael's pick up some more yarn Monday tomorrow I'll go do that so i'm i am open open schedule now so. That's that's good i'm sure that will leave us many things to discuss because as we got into i was like we don't need much motivation we don't need much direction all we need is to get us together in some way shape or form and then be like all right start yammering about something and then we will and hours will go by so That's it. I figure even if we just talk about, hey, we've seen some things lately, it will definitely take over our lives. That's pretty much it, man.

That's pretty much it. Yeah, it's been a while since... It's been several weeks since I've podcasted. And I was looking to fall off the wagon. I mean, how can you get by without it?

I mean, at this point, I assume everyone goes through that because everyone seems to have a podcast. So I assume we all have that, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah.

Don't tell my sponsor that I've fallen off the wagon. I'm podcasting today. Oh, that's what it's going to come to. You'll be calling them up going, I just want to talk about. I gotta get on there, man.

I gotta get on there. I gotta talk about Star Trek. I'm typing in my Zoom password right now. Don't do it, don't do it. No kidding.

No, it's tough. I had to leave the house this morning. week and i had to go into the office and like people with people and i know it was probably people who go like ah fuck you i go in every day and you know and everything you know it's like you know when you know it's like but you gotta understand man it's uh you lose that ability after a while. To function to function as a human being as a human being amongst people all right and uh it's been Since COVID, so it's been, we're on year six now and everything of just leaving the house only when necessary. And so, yeah, you know, you get out there and it's like, it's not like podcasting because I can say, talking about movies is like the safe space.

Talking about life feels like being eviscerated, you know? I mean, just. See, then you become my version, which is I just kind of don't. I realize now like it's weird that like in the real world I just don't even interact for the most part certainly not with normal people like people I know but like The majority of the time I see people I know now, I'm talking on a podcast. So, like, the only time I interact with people that I, like, like, you know, and deal with on a regular basis of my own accord is podcasting.

So, the rest of the time I just have to deal with other people. And most of the time I actively don't. Like, I don't even think about it anymore. I just don't. Like, I have my stuff to do and I do it.

And I try not to talk to the other weirdos out there, and I'm just like, whatever. So, yeah, this is the only time I communicate is when I'm on the show. I like it. You know the rules. We're going to keep it friendly.

We're not going to veer into politics, or we're not going to veer into anything. We're going to talk about movies. And if we want to talk about other things, fine. Wait, is this on your show or in your real world? No, when I'm podcasting.

I was going to say, because the dangerous area for me is when people out there want to talk about movies. I'm like, oh no, you're not... You're not equipped to have a normal conversation on the level of dorks on the internet. Like I'm only used to dorks on the internet version. I don't know how to interact with regular people when they want to talk about movies because it's worse if they know I at least you like movies is the thing I'll get.

And I'll be like, Oh God, what's coming? Oh, God. In the last, the most weird, mundane, mainstream bullshit. And I'm just like, I don't even want to get into it with you. I'm just like, so again, even when it's about something I do want to talk about, I try not to engage because I know it's not going to go well.

I'm like, no, no, no. You tell me what you thought. I like sort of sometimes hearing the weird things that normal people say about movies. Right. But other than that, I don't think you want to hear what I have to say.

And you don't have a spare hour. You're right. That's it. That's it. I can't really get into my feelings on this.

All right? I will go down a rabbit hole and you will not return. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

You will just eventually walk away from the cube and everything. And I will still be mid-thought here. Rambling. Angry about something. Yeah, yeah.

You know what they did? Right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Well, you become like... You try not to be...

I used to ask people on the team I'm on, hey, what your favorite movie was when they joined the team. And then I realized I got to stop doing that because I can't help but to make fun of them. So you're one of those guys. No, I know. I do this.

I'm like, well, again, I just hear what people say about movies that I like and they just don't get it because it's like, it takes a little bit of thought maybe. And I'm like, not that I, I'm mostly brain dead, but like I at least like engage in movies and I ask something of at least some of the movies I watch. And like most people do not want that at all. So like they have like anything that involves like some sort of taste or a little bit of thought. They will just annihilate it.

And I'm just like, oh, God, I can't. I can't with you. I just don't want to start. This always happens. I go like, I'll watch a movie.

Now that I'm in, you know, isolation and everything, I'm like, I'll watch a movie and I'll go like, man, I really like that. And then I'll go out into the world and go, oh, I love that. And they'll go like, what's wrong with you? That's the worst movie. That is the worst movie ever made.

And I go like, yeah. And then when I show somebody like a movie I love, they go like, this is the worst movie I've ever seen. You know, and I go like, okay, I think I've just gone off road. I'm kind of like Jeremiah Johnson now and everything, you know, and like I've just got very particular taste. And it's just, I don't know.

But I'm finding, I'm sorry, Brian, I'm ranting and everything. That's what this is for. That's the whole, as we just said, that's the point. Right, right. It's lancing the boil.

I have found, this is what, this is what we can talk about. So in the past, yes, I probably was probably an asshole if I disagreed with you about your movie. Or I didn't even see it as that. I go like, look, I'm not going to pretend to like it. I'm just going to go like, hey, this is what I think about it.

Again, that's the podcasting world. You're supposed to engage in a conversation. Like I always say that. Like when we just had the horror club and it was like one of the three of us liked the thing that the other two did. I was like, good.

We have some counterbalance. Like I want. Somebody to have a different opinion. So, like, yeah, we want that on, you know, in podcast mode. Like, you want that.

It's a conversation. It's a critical discussion about a movie or the feeling. Which is what it should be. Again, I don't know how to do it any other way. Like, other people just, like...

Make a one sentence statement and they're done. Then that was my thought on that movie. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you haven't even given me the tagline for the. Movie, man. You're going to have to dig into this.

Right, right. And they're just like, what are you talking? No, I already. told you. I liked it. The end.

I'm like, what? But no. I don't know how to process normal people anymore. Because I am not normal. I realize that.

Well, there's like, OK. So I can get real snobby and real Reddit-y. and everything about some shit you know uh you know it's like it's like you go like okay you know it's like when you used to watch movies on vhs on your little tube screen you know you know a 10-inch screen and you go like oh that was a great movie and then you realize when you saw it in widescreen you had never seen that movie and another war it's a whole nother movie and then you watch it projected and then you realize i have never seen this movie you know And then, you know, each format changes your opinion on it, you know? Again, you couldn't describe any of this to a regular person, and they wouldn't know what. No, you've seen that one.

What are you talking about? Like, no, I already saw that movie. Like, again, this is a kind of thing that only happens in the brain of a geek who gets into this stuff. So, again, it's different worlds, man. So continue on.

I just like, as you're describing, I'm like, see, even that won't make sense to somebody who doesn't live this life. So you go into, so you go to somebody's house and you go like, Hey, Hey, we're going to watch a movie. And they, they've got like a screen TV and you go like, Oh, that's cool. You know, but then they're watching it on like the real motion, you know, and you go like, you, you're like, we can't watch this movie like this. I've got to now go into your TV settings and fix this because this will be a waste of everybody's time to watch it.

They're like, what are you talking about? The picture's fine. It's the movement of the image is driving me. I'm not watching the Super Bowl. It doesn't need to look like this.

We're not– it's not a drone shot of somebody completing a pass. Like what do you– why does it look like this? How do you have that? I haven't bought a TV in so long. Like mine is an inherited TV that I got that I'm like it's fine.

It looks good. Like I'm so not picky about technical stuff. Like I like the specifics of like obviously I want widescreen. But like– Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. all the other stuff that people get specific about when they buy theirs to watch the super bowl and i'm like yeah whatever i don't care that seems like you paid a lot for it so whatever i just don't do that so mine doesn't even have those i just like push play and it comes out and it doesn't look weird because i don't think it was made when you still had those they hadn't invented that yet I. Think maybe that's been phased out a little bit, but it used to be where everything was put on the set.

It was such a big thing for a while. That was the selling point. Exactly. So anyway, number one, you go from tube to widescreen to a widescreen presentation and then to a flat screen TV. And you go like, oh, okay, now I'm watching a movie.

And then you go, but then, but then you go like, really, you haven't seen it until it's been projected. Cause then it's like, not like look, staring into a lamp. You're like seeing a, you're like seeing a reflection off a wall, which is like easier on the way maybe movies are supposed to be watched. And then, you know, and then really probably a lot of people would say you haven't seen it until you've seen it with like the right crowd and a movie theater. But then, The last thing is you really haven't seen a movie until you've talked about it for three hours on a podcast.

Okay, well that... I'm going to say yes on that last one. I don't know how to function otherwise. But yeah, I was thinking of the settings as you were like, we haven't really seen a movie until you've experienced it with a live orchestra as well. I wanted to see how much further you could go on the steps, these stair steps of like, well, unless you've seen it with a score performed live in front of you, you've not seen the movie, obviously.

But I would say watching, I have seen Metropolis with like a live, not an orchestra, but like they were playing pots and pans and like a junk orchestra. And it was like a totally different experience. I go like, this is like the best damn thing ever, you know? And then, you know, a lot of movies like I find, you know, are the movie is, Most movies are pretty amazing if you just watch it with the sound off and your own music. You've told me this.

Oh, my God. It's so sad. This is your plan. Dude. You do this with everything now, don't you?

Yeah, I kind of do. You kind of run it through that test, and you put on something. If you put it in some movies, black and white with the sound off, everything is so much better. And so, basically, I hear how crazy this sounds. Only to your children.

Because I know they look at you and go, what the hell are you doing now, Dad? You're like, no, this is great. Watch. This is the way you really get it. Yeah, never mind.

I'll be in the other room doing something useful. No, it's sad. I say it out loud. I go like, oh, my God. Yeah, I got to get out of the house more.

And they're like, please do. Please leave. Do us all a favor. First of all, get dressed. Then go out into the world.

You've been in your pajamas for two months. For the love of God, hose down. And go out into the world. For the love of God. Yeah, then you go out on the road.

I was like, all right, I'll go get a haircut. And then you go sit down and you see yourself in the mirror and your hair is like insane and you've got like this long... You look like Howard Hughes and everything. You've got the ropey fingernails and everything. And you're going like, what the hell?

Where have I been? I wondered where those Kleenex boxes went. Now I know. Like.... Oh yeah.

Saving jars of my own urine is not normal. And, uh, I probably, yeah, it's good. It's good to have people over occasionally, you know, so they can sort of, you know, gut check you, you know, and everything. That is really the only time I like move any of this like mess out of the way. Like I have to, that's why it got so bad.

I had to shift things every time we would have to record in, in my own home. I'm like, I can't, there's too much to move. I can't do it anymore. Like, yeah, it's just too much stuff in the way. I have too many things.

No surprise there. Accumulating of things is what I do. No, no, no, dude. I was like, I was talking to somebody the other day and, uh, crazy. Right.

But, um, not in the real world, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I left the house.

I saw some people I used to work at the movie theater with, and they brought this guy who I hadn't seen in a while. He used to work at the movie theater was, and, uh, He said, hey, I've still got a piece of paper that you wrote down like some movies for me to recommend because I wasn't into horror movies. So I wrote down these horror movies for him to check out. I've still got that sheet of paper. And I was like going like, you guys, that piece of paper is probably 20 years old.

All right. But I go like, dude. I totally know where you're coming from because I've got scraps of paper that I've got random bits of information that I can't get rid of either. And it's weird, right? It's weird.

First of all, what's paper? at this point we're getting to where you know the generations ahead will not even know what as someone who has like stacks of paper everywhere and I do sort through things like I literally I've moved stuff around here and found stacks that are still in the stack they were when I put them in this box from 25 years ago and I'm just like huh look at this and I will find the weirdest stuff and I'm like I wrote this down 25 years ago and here I am now going, Oh yeah, I still need to do that. But it is weird. Like I said, that's why I can't move. It's like, I go like, why did I imbue like a part of my soul into this thing that I feel like if I throw it away, I will, I will, I'm throwing away a part of me, you know, and everything.

It's so weird, you know? But it's also a physical thing. Whereas now any kids just going to like make a note on their phone and like, you know, they won't physically be dragging a piece of paper around for the rest of their life. Yeah. Yeah.

All their books will be on Kindles and all their movies will be on the cloud or like, or they don't even own those. And, and all their writing is just like in the app. And so, yeah, I mean, that's good for. Them, but it's, It's a different way to process everything, I guess. Yeah.

But when you walk into somebody's house, though, I mean, you'll go like, oh, this person. I mean, when you walk into somebody's house and they're obviously, you know, collecting a museum of the random thoughts that they have since like, you know, for the last 30 years. You go like, okay, yeah, this person's probably a little deranged. Or this person, you know. Okay, it sounded like my place when you started.

I was like, oh, yeah. Like, oh, oh. Okay. You're right. I'm not disagreeing.

But I didn't realize what road we were heading down as I was like, yeah. I'm in it right now. I'm looking at all the, oh. Okay, maybe I'm a little deranged. That's a fact.

No, it's fine. Anyway. But now you're not going to know. You're not going to know. You're going to have to like look at somebody's hard drive to know how deranged they are.

Well, I mean, because everybody's going to, that's my favorite is when you get to like future world. Like even some, as, like, generalized as, like, Star Trek. Like, look at Next Generation. Like, their quarters are just, like, walls. Yeah.

And, like, maybe if they're super cool, they'll have, like, something hanging over there or, like, a sculpture of, like, a spaceship or I don't know. Like, it's so minimalist that I'm just like, I mean– I guess. Like, I don't know. Like, I just want the stuff. Like, I need the stuff, man.

Like, I'm Jones is for the stuff. So, like, when I see that, I'm like, I appreciate it, like, as, like, an aesthetic. Like, it looks great when I see someplace that's super cool and minimalist and some sort of modern architecture. And I'm like, I like this, like, look that you have. But.

Where's all your stuff? Where's the texture? I don't know how to process it because I need the stuff, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need the sensory input, you know?

I mean, right now. Overload is mine. I mean, right. Right now, I'm looking at the walls around me, and I'm taking everything off the walls. So I am just looking at bare walls right now.

You're losing it. Yeah, yeah, because I'm just looking. I'm trying to rebuild and everything. I'm trying to, I mean, you know. I've shaken the Etch-A-Sketch and I'm slowly rebuilding back, you know, layers of patina, you know.

I just have to move one thing out of the way to put another. I just, I just literally like I bought a piece of art because I'm a dork and I like physical art. Right. And I, I, the last time I did this, I had to find a place to put that one. Well, now it's like I found this thing that I– it literally is a painting I saw like 20 some odd years ago that a person that I knew, a friend of mine painted.

And I hadn't seen it forever. And they did a show and it was still there. I was like, oh, this was like my favorite thing that you did. It's amazing. So I didn't have money for it.

But screw it. I went in the hole. And I'm like, so now I have that. Well, I had to move the last painting that I bought. So I'm like– I have to move my geek thing out of the way to put a new geek thing on top of where that one was.

And then I have to figure out where to put the old one. Cause I don't want to get rid of that for God's sakes. So like, it's just stockpiling and moving my geek things and then putting the new thing in that spot till I find another thing that it's like, it's so out of control. The amount of stuff that I have. It's madness.

It's madness. And now, so I'm going to say, say something that's going to make me sound like a, like a, an Anne Rice vampire, but it's like, uh, the weight of the years and the weight of the memories starts really accumulating around this time where you've now got 30 years of this shit, you know, 40 years of this, you know, I mean, you know, if I, yeah, I mean, so, you know, I've got stuff from, you know, high school, you know, in a, in a file cabinet, you know, and, uh, And I'm going like, you know, and then, you know, my mother is the same way. So she's probably got stuff from, you know, my kindergarten that I probably popped together with popsicle sticks and a Rubbermaid. I mean, this sickness just goes on, you know.

It's amazing. Like I said before, sometimes because I'll just be moving over the years and I'll throw it in a plastic tub and it'll get stuck somewhere for years. it will be in the stack it was when I threw it together 25 years ago. So when I pull it out, it's almost like carbon dating. I'm pulling stuff out in the order it was 25 years ago. You're looking at a time capsule, whether you realized it or not.

But like these things that I stack together, were sitting on my desk 25 years ago, and now here they are. Obviously, they were very important, and I definitely needed them because here they are 25 years later. And I'm just like, this is the way that it was. These things that I grouped together were grouped together sitting in this pile that long ago. Like, it's so weird when I find stuff because it's all from the same era, more or less, when I threw it all in this one box. and i'll pull it out and be like oh yeah this and oh yeah i was doing this then and i was like all of these weird memories get crammed into my brain because i'm like finding all these pieces of this puzzle that happened decades.

Ago right right no it's like uh yeah it's almost like uh living in a not a a dwelling space a living is more like you're living in a in a in a And whatchamacallit, like an archaeological dig. You know? The archaeological dig that is our geek brain. Yeah. When you're like, these are all the things that you like, right?

Well, let's go back 20 years and look at what they look like then. It's pretty much the same, but it's different stuff because I've accumulated so much new stuff on top of it. Right, right. No, it's weird. It's just heavy.

It's just heavy. It's a lot. And I'm going like, I don't know. You know, as I was saying, like before we started recording, it was just like, you know, at a certain point, your hard drive is just full, you know, and you just can't put anything else in here because it is also, you know, I'm just going like, you know, for me, it was always like memory. It's like, I got to remember these things, you know, or they didn't happen.

If I don't remember it, it never happened. I get that. Yeah. It is part of that for me because it will bring up such specific things. time and place in my life and I'm just like this is weird and like I don't know that I would have gotten to this place again without this thing that I just picked up like it really is like a or even photos like photos you can like project yourself into that moment decades ago when somebody took this shot and it's like oh if I don't have these I don't necessarily access this specific version of the memory like it really is like a little portal in time that you're like oh look at this look at this thing that I found that takes you back into the past it's It's amazing.

And I think, yeah, right, right. And I go like, I guess because I'm just kind of scatterbrained, I just kind of go from like one moment to another. And so when I like see something that grounds me to, you know, an actual reality from the past, I go like, oh. I did exist in this moment and interacted with the reality in some way. And so it wasn't just all ethereal, you know, and everything.

It's like, it's like, I never, you know, I never like, uh, feel it when it's happening. I only feel things in hindsight, you know, like when I, you know it's like i like i think that's. Just the human brain in general yeah we don't appreciate things when we have them right you'll be so caught up in the things going wrong at the moment back 20 years later and be like oh my god that was the best time ever why was i unhappy then yeah while you're currently in the moment unhappy now right and like yeah if you make it another 10 years you'll look back at this and be like what the hell was wrong with me i wish i'm stupid like So we're just stupid is what we take away. Humans are stupid. And we don't appreciate what we have until it's gone.

Right. And we're busy worrying about other things and we're not appreciating what we have at the moment. Yeah. And we only think about it when it's also gone. Right.

Right. Exactly. And then you go like, and then you go like, well, you don't want to be like some hippy dippy dude like going early in the moment. I mean, the thought of, of getting rid of this shit and being like, you know, cause so go, are we too tethered to the past? You know what I mean?

What would it be like to cut these things and throw all this shit away? I go like, I don't know. I would feel like I'm floating in outer space if I did that. So that's what I'm wondering now is like, okay, so if we've got generations that aren't caught up so much in the physical version of it, but still have these things in some digital form like right are they just as caught up in it but it's in the cloud now like is it right you've still got photos and drawings and writings but they're all just not physically in front of you it's stored away on a hard drive somewhere so like is it is it changing or is it just the storage has changed the physical way that it exists changed but we're still sort of so i wonder are kids going to be that way in the future or is it just I don't know.

Something that we had when we stored all our physical stuff around us. Yeah. I don't know. I would say for me, you know, personally, it's like the pictures that are on a hard drive. You just never look at is the things that are taking up space around you that you look at, you know?

And so maybe, maybe there will be like more healthy, like you'll have like 80 million pictures, but you'll never look at them. So you're kind of like maybe living more in the present, but then you're, Then on the living for content, to be a content creator, then you're really not living in the moment either because you're living to record the moment, but you're not. Experiencing the moment. You're living to create a specific thing, so you're not focusing on your normal life. It's only the version of this thing that you're trying to put out there for someone else to see.

Right, right, yeah. Yeah, so that's weird. So that's not healthy either. So people are dumb and unhealthy. All right.

Yeah, yeah. All right, we've pieced it together. This is very true. Anyway, yeah, it makes me want to go buy some Blu-rays, you know, and everything to. have my stuff well sometimes i do i should probably stop and i don't so right right. What was the last thing you bought uh i bought the um the the x triology oh i.

Came across them on blu-ray and like again i what i liked all three of those anyway i just watched maxine and loved it. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. It's so immersive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I ran across, and I was looking, and I was like, well, yeah, I want to get those, but do I need to get these right now? And I was like, that's kind of cheap. And then I looked it up, and, like, the person was selling all three for less than what Maxine was going for by itself. I was like, okay, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and get these now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now I have the whole trilogy there. So you bought it online from a seller or you bought it? No, this was in the real world. See, I still go out into the world. That's awesome.

That's how I get myself in trouble because then I spend more money. I sometimes force myself to stay home because I can't afford to go buy more stuff. And I know I will find something because I always end up finding stuff. So that was one of those wasn't planning, just walking around the place. And I'm like, oh, look, there's those.

I need to get those. Hey, wait, that's pretty cheap. And then I'm like, then I convince my, well, I have to get it now. I'm stupid if I don't buy it now. Look how cheap it is comparatively.

And then I come home with more Blu-rays. So this is my life. Those are really good. Those are probably like some touchstone horror movies of the last, you know. Those are pretty impressive, I have to say.

I always like his movies, but like those are an interesting three because the weird timeline and the shared, you know, sort of one person through all three, but not really the same character. So it's, yeah, it's an interesting version of a trilogy. Yeah. Yeah. Just so they just nail it.

It's so cool that, you know, they just really nail a different look for each one. You know, it's just, it's just, you know, it's like a horror trilogy for like, you know, film nerds. Well, especially the third one. Like he is like, that's the one I like. They're both impressed of the first two in their own way, but, But then that third one, I feel like he just went all into the experience.

Like even if you don't care about the story, it's telling the world that he builds is so. And again, because I kind of was there, I wasn't in that place, but I was in that time. And I'm like, no, this is all accurate. Like he literally found a way to make it like they're in the video store. They're walking down Hollywood Boulevard.

And I'm just like, it all looks super dated. Like he found a way to recreate this that like is really immersive. So yeah, that one is amazing from that aspect, even if you don't care about the horror story. And I still think the horror is really cool too. So.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, I think Ty West, he was probably one of the first people who said, like, I'm going to make a movie that looks like it was made in another time, you know? And yet, I'm still amazed, does it for a pretty minimal budget from what I've seen anyway? I don't know, he might be frustrated at all times, but I just, like, know that, like, he's not getting... 100 million dollars and yet some of these things look so good that i'm like how he does it on a still indie budget or at least you know mid-level low-end studio kind of money and yet deliver something that looks as good as his movies do so.

Oh absolutely it's impressive no he's he's pretty great you remember his cameo in uh What is it called? You're Next. Oh, yeah. When you're watching the dorks around the table, you're like, that guy and that. And look who that is.

She's also in his movie. So, yeah, everybody around the table is just a dork from indie movies. You're like, ah-ha. Again, it's only funny for the kind of person who would be watching You're Next. Right, right.

Any other human being in the world would not know anyone at the table, but you're like, oh, look who it is. Like, what do you call it? Like the guy is like saying like, oh, Ty West's character gets all offended because this guy who's asking, talking about movies is talking on and on about, you know, some, some terrible movie or something. The guy's like, oh, he's just trying to swallow his food, you know? I don't know.

It was great. It was great. Yeah, yeah. That was a good purchase. Good purchase.

So what was your last physical media purchase? My last physical media purchase. I mean, the only place I go is like Walmart down the road. It's five minutes. That is not my choice if I can help it.

No, no, no. I try to steer clear of that place. Exactly. Well, you know, I was going like, you know what? I can stay in between these two intersections and like get everything I need.

Didn't we say you need to get out a little more? I know, I know. Okay, so on one intersection, there's a movie theater. On the other section, there's the Walmart. Now, so I'm going like, you know, I could sort of stay in the same 10 mile radius and go like, yeah, no, it's not healthy.

It's not healthy. Okay, so what is it? So Walmart, right? You know, and they don't really have the, But whatever. It's not really a selection.

It gets smaller and smaller every year. But I don't even have the bin of $ 5 DVDs. I was going to say, a lot of places don't even have that physical. That's why, because I end up going to a lot of used stores and used bookstores that, of course, I'm only there for the Blu-rays. And like, you know, Peddler's Malls, I find more stuff than anywhere else.

But yeah, Target, some of them don't even have Blu-rays anymore. Right, right, right. It's a different way of releasing movies now. Yeah, yeah. No, it's funny.

No, so the last thing I bought was from Walmart, $ 15 Blu-ray of The Fablemans. All right, all right. Again, movie geek for movie geeks. That's it. That's it.

Layers upon layers of movie geek. Yep. Absolutely yeah it's a spielberg doing you know. Spielberg doing spielberg but kind of not spielberg but still totally. Spielberg and and but it's very brian de palma-y in certain parts especially you know he's going through his he's editing the the family home movies you know uh i really like that movie uh but i liked it more in the theater re-watching it didn't it didn't have the same like jump to me but.

You just can't experience it at home dude you just can't fully experience it until you're sitting in the theater and it's projected on 35 millimeters none of that digital projection nonsense and i. Was completely the different when i was in and going to georgia state for film and everything i would go like why would i spend i mean probably i'm just like a roger corman type i go why would i spend I can't go into debt to learn how to do this stuff. You know, I gotta like, can't we just like shoot it on video to learn, you know, basic visual storytelling. Why do we have to like spend like $ 10, 000 to like make a, you know, uh, you know, uh, an eight millimeter freaking, you know, thing that's just going to be seen by the class and everything.

I mean, I get it. I mean, I guess it was 16 millimeter, you know, and everything. So it was expensive. It was expensive for me and everything. So, you know, so everybody else was being like, oh, no, you got to shoot it on film to really, if you're really a film guy, you know, and everything.

I'll go like, yeah. So, so again, I'm not that guy. I'm not, I'm not like, unless you have a film. Uh, showing it, you know, projecting it on a video projector is no better than watching it, you know, on your phone, you know. To really, to really get it.

You gotta have a, like a print and you gotta project it and you gotta have the clickety clackety or it's not even watching a movie. Well, it's funny. It has come back around from the filmmaking aspect because it went to, because it was just financially, that's how you had to do it for so many directors. It just became, you're shooting digital or you're not making this movie. And you've got now the super high end tier of directors have enough pull that now they're back to shooting.

Either they're shooting on film or they're pulling out old. There's a couple of them in the last year that have been like, I'm shooting it in Vista vision. You know, it's like they're pulling out like specific old formats that like, you have to bring in people to figure out how to do it now because it's so outdated. But they're like back to the filmmaking experience and they're like, bringing out super old school stuff to like i guess experience it as a filmmaker and then deliver that to you as the audience. So yeah yeah so yeah so i was going to say like shot in cinerama or something like that but you know what man i'm seeing this stuff popping up on my feed of this new way, these new theaters where they're projecting on all the walls and the ceiling.

And, uh, there's a one in Atlanta. Now they're playing the matrix coming up and it's, uh, the movies in the middle, but then like they're projecting like this entire environment all around. Since around dome. Yeah. No, it's like really, and see for me, like that's real annoying.

Yeah. Well, I mean, that just seems novelty. Like, I remember the only time I'd ever seen that growing up was you'd have to go to, like, Gatlinburg. It was a gimmicky thing for tourists to go stand inside of this place and then projected 360 degrees around you is this thing. And, like, it was super cool when I was a dumb kid.

But, like, yeah, it seems... impractical for most regular filmmaking but yeah yeah if you can find the right way to use it i guess it can be cool. Yeah it's it's weird dude it's weird so i think what this thing is is uh it's the same technology they use on like mandalorian and stuff like that where like it's a super high definition screen alright you know it's like post blue screen technology where you don't put it in later you just have the image it's. Just behind you as you shoot yeah right right and so I think that's what this is it's not projected it's you're basically watching like a 360 television screen. And I had a friend who went to go see one of these, and he says, like, the picture is insanely clear.

It's, like, insanely clear. It's, like, I don't know, you're there or something. I go, like, all I can picture as you're describing this is Mike TV. Yeah. It's, like, we're just one step away from Willy Wonka at this point, where they're going to beam you into the television.

Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Now, it looks dumb, because it's like, the movies are made to have this rectangular frame line, and then they just, like, extrapolate all this dumb shit around it. Like, you know, like, I don't know, like, The Matrix has, you know, The Matrix, where they're showing the reign of data you know it's like all around you now and then like you know when you're in the dojo fighting they have like the the shot the the floor and the ceiling of the dojo above you and below you and i'm going like well i don't i don't know if i want i don't i kind of like frame i like i like i like scene composition. Somebody just kicked me in the head this is too real.

I don't like this anymore I know. It's going to be like the Kentucky Fried movie. Experience the immersive experience of film as you get kicked in the head by this guy that might be Keanu. You don't know. Jesus.

I don't know. Yeah, it seems real gimmicky. But I don't want to pay money to watch a screen projected at me. I mean, I want to see the– I need the light coming over my head. Oh my God, I'm getting so old and weird, dude.

That cloud's not going to yell at itself. That's it. Oh my God, dude. Anyway, it's because I don't watch the news. I get upset about this kind of stuff.

No, that's a better option. Let me just say that's a better option. Yeah, there we go. There we go. So, have you seen anything lately?

So, yes, I did. I will say, I'm just going to start with this because this is, okay, if you go see a weird movie, they play weird movie trailers. Yeah, you got to know your target audience. Exactly. And so, and so, you know, if you go, so, so, you know, you sit around and you go like, oh, nothing's original.

Nothing's good. Nothing's, nothing's coming out that, you know, you know, all the original stories are dead. There's, Billions of movies being made every second, all right? They are not all sequels and tie-ins, okay? There are, like, original things coming out, but it's just you don't know about them because everything's coming out all at once.

Everything, all the time, all at once. Like, whatever that movie was called. That's what I said on a previous episode. I was just like, people complain that there's nothing good. I'm like, no, you just don't look for anything.

If you dig into it, you can find all kinds of weird stuff that's not cookie cutter, but most normal people don't want to do that. Exactly. I don't usually watch trailers, but I went to go see a movie, so I'm going like, well, I'm not going to remember anything I watch anyway. So, uh, you know, I can watch trailers now and they don't ruin the movie because I'm going to forget that I saw it. All right.

So, but a movie that a trailer that I saw that I was going like, Oh damn, this is like, I'm going to see this in the theater. Is this movie coming out called is God is okay. Okay, Is God Is is not coming out for another two months, all right? Is this like the new album by Was Not Was? Right.

Those guys. There are dinosaurs. They rock. There are dinosaurs. People are taking them for walks in this movie.

I mean, that's an important thing. You got to walk your dinosaurs. And this isn't about firefighters or anything like that. I assume this is like some sort of weird Christian movie. Yeah.

Yeah. This isn't about, you know, firefighters and their, uh, men's group, you know, Bible study. All right. This is, this is, this movie looks insane. Okay.

It's like, uh, like an all black cast, uh, female black director. And the movie is about these two, the, this, these two sisters and their mom, whose dad had doused them in gasoline and set them on fire. And it's all, I guess it's because it's all the South. All right. And it's got, you know, small town, Southern Gothic, uh, you know, what is happening in these small towns that you pass by, that you drive by on the highway.

And you go like, what are people doing in Lumpkin? You know? You don't want to know. That's the answer. That's what I always say.

You drive past and you go like Harrisburg, you know, and it's like population. And you go like, what's going on in Harrisburg? You know? I mean, there's not even like a main street. It's just here.

So this is like, so God is, God is, is like taking place in that, you know, rural, southern sun-baked area and these and it's basically a revenge movie of these two sisters the mom is just burnt beyond all recognition and one of the sisters is burnt all up and she's got freddie everybody's got freddie krueger makeup in and um and they get in this like uh you know old beautiful uh sedan car you know it looks like something from the 70s or 80s you know it has um And they're basically the two sisters. One sister isn't burnt, you know, and is beautiful. And they're going on this pilgrimage to find their dad to burn them up so they can kill them. You know, kind of like a Kill Bill kind of thing, you know.

But it gets into, like, the, you know, from the movie. You know, it kind of looks Tarantino because they've got all the characters pumping up. you know, it was like, you know, the, this, the, that, you know, and everything. And, uh, but it like really gets you excited. And like, it goes into like, uh, the, the dad is like now hooked up with like a, uh, uh, like a female preacher, you know, charismatic preacher who's like, it looks like they run out of this little chapel, you know, and it's very, you know, it's all very Pentecostal and everything. And, uh, And so it looks wild, dude.

It looks like it's got a real strong vision of what it's doing, you know? And I go like, man, this looks so like a fresh take on that kind of, you know, revenge thriller, you know? And so I'm totally hyped for it. So I saw a trailer that kind of blew me away. See, there you go.

We still need to, like, Delve into it and find cool stuff that's out there. That's it. That's what I keep trying to do. If I talk to people, which I don't, I would tell them that's what you need to do. But again, the people I don't bother to talk to are the kind that don't venture out and look for anything.

They're just like, oh. Oh, they make superhero movies now. And I'm like, they don't even do that anymore. No, those are all falling flat, dude. I hate to tell you, but we're still complaining about from 10 years ago.

Isn't even the thing anymore. No dude. No dude. It's a, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, no.

So yeah, it's totally out there. The stuff is out there. And, uh, yeah, I mean, everybody's kind of tired about that, that, that whole cycle. So, I mean, I think it's like, uh. I don't know.

I went to go see a weird movie, so it had weird trailers. And I was going like, oh, yeah, hell yeah. Fantastic. You tell me about something you've watched, because when I get to the movie that I've watched, I could probably talk too long about it. There's one I watched semi-recently, but I kind of wanted to discuss it with you, or just in general.

As soon as I saw it, I was like, I... I need to discuss the mechanics of this. Okay. Have you seen Honey Don't? Honey Don't.

Honey Don't. I don't even think. Hold on one second. Let me. It is the second in the new lesbian trilogy that the lone Coen brother is making with his, I think, wife.

Okay. Are you familiar with these new non-brothers versions of the Coen brothers movies? No, it looks like it's on Netflix, though. So maybe I. Heard about it.

And again, I like that cast. So I was like, all right, this looks interesting. But it is weird. OK, I know nothing about this. It's got Don Swayze in it.

What the hell is he doing there? That I don't know. It's mostly Margaret. The Margaret Wally is sort of our lead character. And then I knew Aubrey Plaza was in it.

I was like, all right, I'm sold already. So like anything she's in, she's made it better. Like she's always weird and interesting. So like no matter where you put her, even places it doesn't seem like she should be stuck into, somehow she always makes it more interesting. So that's still the case, but it's just– it's so– these these new, and I, I also had to then delve into, I was like, did the, did the brothers like have a rift?

I don't think so. I think it was just timing wise, I think. Cause the one went off to make your Shakespeare and the other went off to make sort of similar crime dramas, but not the same. Right. So that's, yeah, I watched the first one at home and, you know, like last year or something.

And I was like, yeah, it's pretty good. It's not the same. Like again, I don't want to judge it against everything else. Coen brothers. Cause it's a different thing.

Right. But they're similar enough that you kind of get the feeling from both of these that you're like, yeah, I see. It's very Coen esque. Because half of them is there, but it's not the same as your old school Coen Brothers movies. Got it.

Got it. So this one in particular is just, and that's the thing I'd heard. I don't know if it's just this movie or if all of these that they're going to are ones that they'd had because I'd heard this one was an old screenplay that they'd had like 20 years ago. And then they were busy doing their Coen Brothers movies. And now I guess he like dusted it off and was like, hey, honey, you want to make that movie we wrote 20 years ago?

Because it feels like things are just kind of off. And I'm like, it's like it needed another pass or two to like tighten things up or decide what it is we're doing. Because it's like there's moments in it that are great. And like the performances are great. But like the mechanics of how it comes together is just... flunky like you know it's like the more i watched it and i was just like i i mean i'm glad i've seen this but it definitely doesn't it doesn't even flow like a normal movie and definitely not like your old school coen brothers movies which are so tight and like even when they're weird and go off on their little tangents like it somehow feels tied together and and like a like a well-oiled machine by the time it all finishes whereas This just, like, it's like they didn't decide for sure what they were doing.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I swear, and I would say, like, this is my issue with a lot of movies now, that I'm like, when they're going back and forth of like, what do we make this? Do we make a movie? Do we make a streaming series? Right, right.

This one, like, and again, it couldn't have been that if it was an old screenplay, because there wouldn't have been an option to do anything else. But it feels like, like, we learned so little about this main character. Like, if this was the first episode... I'd be like, all right, I like this character. I like, let's see where she's going.

But like, we learn next to nothing about her. The basics of the story, like we sort of tie up one part of this story, but there's two or three other things that come up in it that are just like left dangling. And you're just like, that'd be great if this was come back next week for the next episode, but this is the end of the movie. And I don't think they're going to continue. So yeah, It's just weird.

It's like very basic mechanics of stuff that feel off that I'm like, that's weird for Ethan Coen to like put something out that is this just sort of off in a basic filmmaking way. Like, that's just strange to me. And you go like, hmm, maybe it was Joel directing mainly. Back before they started sharing credit. I don't know, man.

That's real weird. Coen Brothers movies for me are real bizarre. Ethan Coen and I mean, I like them still, but some of the ones that I used to really like, they don't, they haven't, maybe I haven't, because I've just seen them so much, they haven't and my tastes have changed. All right. And so some, I've been finding movie and this is something that's probably keys into something here.

Now I love, I love, uh, the Coen brothers and the, this looks like a, like a modern door kind of thing. Which it is. Yeah. And again, that would be great. Right.

It's just something weird about it. Right, right, right. I think like what they do is like they take, they make a noir, but then they, they just kind of changed the main character to be somebody you want to see, you know, like Big Lebowski is probably the most, you know, uh, basic version of that. It's like a, it's like a LA noir story, but instead of like having Sam Spade, you've got, you know, some stoner guy. Right.

Right. And like, uh, Fargo is like murder crime, you know, but it's set in a awful, and the main character is like somebody you wouldn't usually see, you know? Which this, she feels like a very, like she is very like film noir. She seems like she's sort of the Sam Spade. She's just like, what if Sam Spade was a young woman and a lesbian?

Let's go. That's the main change. But again like it there's just the other things going on don't make any. Sense like when when they wrote it maybe being a lesbian was like this is still like a hot topic. I guess because again that's why i said it's like their their lesbian trilogy because that was also like a key feature in driveaway dolls which was the first one he did last you know the year before this right and like that one i feel like works better as a movie i like that one it's still you know it's not the same as the old school Coen brothers, but that's fine.

It's not, it's not the Coen brothers. So it shouldn't be judged by that. I'm fine with that, but it worked better as a movie. It came together as a movie where this one just seemed like there's something missing there. It's missing some pieces along the way.

And supposedly there's a third one that they're doing. That is again, different characters, but kind of the same, you know, modern day noir and of course the main characters seem to be lesbian which is fine it just seems to be it's just weird that like ethan cohen latched onto this you know yeah the forefront of the lesbian movement is ethan cohen like yeah. Right right but when he wrote it When he wrote it back when Truth or Dare, Madonna's Truth or Dare came out, you know, it was like, it was real edgy. Well, when the coolest movie was bound, you know, and it's like, all right, this is it. We're doing it.

Like, yeah. So now it's just like, well, yeah. And, you know, it's like, it's not really a big deal, but like, so I don't know. I don't know if like Trisha Cook co-writes this stuff with him. So maybe she's like really into the, no, I want to capture this experience.

And like, I don't know, but yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting turn that their careers have taken overall. And it's a weird kind of road that Ethan's headed down. But yeah, I'm glad I've seen it.

But it's just something weird about it. Yeah, I've got to check it out. I'll find a stream and I'll check these out. I didn't realize Ethan was out making his own movies. That's sort of how disconnected I am and everything.

Yeah, this is two in the last couple of years and supposedly a third in the works. And then eventually I think they're supposed to come back together. I think it was just they were doing different things and at that point they just didn't have time to work out. the mechanics of what they were doing in the real world to be able to work on something together. And they both went, Oh, let's just work on different things. But I don't think there's a rift that I was concerned that maybe there was, but like, I think they're supposed to come back and do another Coen brothers movie down the line somewhere.

So yeah, there's, there's a really funny article. It's, it's fake, but, uh, I found out it's fake. All right. But it's really hilarious where somebody wrote, uh, ethan cohen's review of uh the shakespeare movie that joel did you know and it's it's so hysterical where it's saying like this guy is so insecure about his filmmaking that when he makes his own movie he has to go to hamlet or something like that he has to go to shakespeare and dress it up In all this high-class culture and everything, so nobody would dare criticize him for making it. I brought in the biggest A-list actor I could get.

And he's a master at the craft, so you can't say anything bad. We've got. the greatest writer of the world's ever known with the greatest actor the world has ever known. And I'm directing. So that's right. That's right.

So go ahead. Take your shot. Right. Right. You are stupid.

If you do not like this, you know, um, you know, so, so yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was real funny. I thought it was real, but then I got debunked, but it was hilarious. Yeah. I love them.

I love them. I love them. I love them to death and everything. And, um, um, Always loved their movies, but I think... Okay, here's the thing.

Some of the movies that... And this is probably just if it's too loud, you're too old kind of thing going on. All right, some of the movies that I've always loved and I've seen a hundred times, I've gone back and revisited, and I find them a little shrill now. What? Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so two examples here. I would say I still love Raising Arizona. I was going to say, there's some that I'm like, they almost get better the more. Like, Raising Arizona is one that never ceases to amaze me. Yeah, I love it.

Which is interesting as early on as it was. It's like their second big feature, more or less. And, like, they were that ahead of the curve on, like, just the technology and the storytelling and the characters. Yeah, yeah. It was reinvented cinema.

I mean, it was like Sam Raimi and Barry Sonnenfeld, you know, just making a subjective camera an active participant in the storytelling. in a way that, you know, with a kinetic property that just have not been seen before is, yeah, game changing. Both of those movies came out in 87 and you just go like, wow, somebody had cracked the code. Yeah, definitely at that point in time. Yeah. Now I find, I do still love the movie, but I do find it a little shrill.

I'm just going like, everybody calm down. Crazy talk. I know, I know. So it's just me. I just need to eat my soup and saltines and watch Will of Fortune and go to bed, you know?

And one of theirs I can't even watch, The Intolerable Cruelty, is just so shrill that I can't get past the first 15 minutes. Yeah, it's one of those I didn't get to at the time, and now I look back and go, do I want, eh, I'll watch something else. Like, I just haven't gotten to it yet. Like, still, now. How many years later?

I was still like, nah. I did eventually watch, what's the other weird comedy that the, what's the one with Brad Pitt? Oh, Burn After Reading. Yeah, Burn After Reading. I finally watched Burn After Reading in the last couple of years.

And I'm like, okay, I see why people didn't get it. It's definitely doing its own weird thing, especially plot-wise. It's doing its own weird thing. But I was like, comedy-wise, it's still. These are great performances.

It's doing really good stuff in the moment. But yeah, by the end, you're like, what. Did I watch? What the hell was that? I remember enjoying it when I watched it, but I couldn't tell you what happened afterwards.

Yeah. Well, that is the movie. You're like, wait, what? What happened? And I feel like that was around that same time with Intolerable Cruelty where people were just like, what are you guys making now?

What is this? Right. Every time they would do one of the, like, we're going to do a serious one, and now we're going to do a wacky comedy. And people would be like, what are you doing? What is this?

So, like, go back to Fargo. Go back to No Country. Like, do the grim serious stuff. We don't understand your comedy. So, yeah, I mean, those I kind of get.

Those are ones that just land weird as well. So they can do that, certainly, as filmmakers. Yeah, no, it's weird. I still love Lebowski. Now, Country for Old Men, that made me so angry.

And I know I just didn't get it, man. But that ending, I think I vocally yelled. See, that's... That's the most normal thing. That's the normal people out there.

That's it. That same thing. So you really are. I know. Soup and saltines, man.

You're heading right down that road. I can't, I can't be like Mr. Pretentious filmmaker, film, film, film, film, cineast guy. You know, when I don't get, when I was physically like, I'm not going to watch the next Coen brothers movie because they are in movie jail after doing that shit to me. All right.

You know, um so so i mean so yeah you know i mean i'm not saying i have good taste you know i'm just saying that you know i don't know anyway uh but yeah yeah some movies are because some of the movies i've always loved come out a little shrill to me now you know and everything so i think that leads me into like this new obsession i have of like uh and probably why i like burton after reading because i think i've i'm kind of going through a phase right now where i really like movies where nothing happens well yeah you know i mean i think it's. It depends on what level we're talking about because i mean you can get that in some of these like there are ones that are very artsy that also become a what the hell's going on kind of experience or there's just mainstream crap that nothing actually happens so i guess which road are you headed.

Down okay probably the more arty farty uh road all right because you know yes there are movies out there like where a lot uh is there's a lot of movement going on on the screen but actually nothing's happening it's like you know what uh you know sound and you know story strawman thunder you know a bunch of noise that signifies nothing you know like you know everything that has star wars on the. Title so the best movies yes the. Best movies i mean though you know everybody's like i am super looking forward to grogu. That's all i gotta say yeah yeah i watched that trailer and i'm like you know he never ceases to deliver for me every time he's on screen i'm like ah i love that guy that guy's great So I don't care how dumb it makes me.

I'm like, I don't care. I want to see Grogu kick somebody's ass. I want to see him be super cute. And then he's going to eat stuff and it's going to be awesome. I'm like, I'm not above that either, but I sometimes.

Like, yeah, me neither. I mean, yeah, no, no, I'm not saying this is the only thing I do. And I might be starting to, you know, cycle out of it already, you know, even talking about it. But I think I just, my nervous system needed a detox and, and everything. I just needed like a movie that wasn't like plot driven and wasn't about, you know, this happens and this happens.

And then the person learns about this. And then, you know, like basically the Nicolas Cage rant from, uh, adaptation, you know, that, that was basically where I was, you know, it was like, I just need something to exist organically in its own space. And, you know, I just said that out loud and I hate myself for saying that out loud. All right. You know, and, uh, and uh but but but anyway so after some of these movies and i you know i'm just such a horror movie junkie i think my nervous system is like i want to watch a movie tonight but i don't want to like go to bed with like a knot of anxiety you know yeah i mean there are.

Many times lately that i'm just like because i watch so much for the horror club episodes that i'm like i get to the others times i can watch them i'm like is there anything that's a little lighter? Yeah. Is there a comedy that I'm not going to think is stupid, which usually is no, they're mostly stupid, but like if I can find something that's a little more fun, that's what I'm looking for. Exactly. Exactly.

Something, something that just isn't going to get me jangled up, you know, where I can't sleep, you know, I mean, that's sort of the thing. I mean, so I'm going to like, okay, you know, so yeah. I mean, I get it, dude. I get it. I mean, you know, I mean, back in the 90s and everything, the guy that I said, you know, still has like the scrap of paper I gave him with movies on it.

I've got like the number one movie I was recommending on that was Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Yeah, nothing mainstream people are into more than that one. Oh my God. Yeah, I'm going to admit.

I want a lot of... weird visuals and symbolism i was like yeah. That german expressionism that's what i'm looking for man. I'm going like that is totally what i would have recommended in 1995 to somebody wanted to see a good movie you know go like yeah yeah that's me anyway so uh what the hell so anyway you know just this you know in the 90s you go i was really like i want to see the most you know gut wrenching thing I can possibly watch that will re, uh, affirm my bleak and nihilistic view of the world. That does sound like you. Yeah.

Yeah. And now I, I, you know, I was just like, uh, I just want to see a movie that is. Just sort of slowly unfolding, like, like un, like you're slowly unwrapping, you know, like what, one of those like notes you got back in like, you know, elementary school that was all folded in a very specific way. Right. You know?

And so I just want to kind of like my movie going experience. I just want to slowly open the note fold by fold very methodically. And then just look at what it says. And then I want to fold it all back. And write, you know, maybe in my brain, write something on the back and then hand it to somebody.

And that's it. I don't need to be challenged and blown away and rattled by the ridiculous plot mechanisms that is like overloading the people's actions. Like that person would never do that. But the plot says they have to. So they're being controlled by like, you know, somebody. uh, malevolent God, you know, that, that, you know, it does not have their best interest in hand, you know?

And so people have no survival instinct or no sense of self-preservation. And, uh, you know, I mean, so I guess I'm just detoxing. I'm detoxing. Your brain works in very different ways. sometimes i'll just put on a movie yeah yeah yeah as opposed to what you just described which seems to me way more rattling than even just putting on a horror movie the way you described it was way more overwhelming than i want to deal with on most given days truthfully. I know, man.

I feel like the vein in my forehead going. I feel like I'm turning into a Ren and Stimpy cartoon. You can see it in front of you. Just pulsating. Yeah, yeah.

So I think I'm just a little high strung these days. So I've been trying to watch Stimpy. movies. I've been just trying to watch some movies that will not, you know, rattle me. And so I watched Picnic at Canyon Rock, which was, I don't know if you've seen that. I know of it.

Sure. It's great. Again, I keep hearing that, and it's one of those I keep putting on the list of like, I think I, maybe I, and then I'm like, no, maybe I didn't. So it's one of those I feel like I need to check off the list, and I don't know that I have. Okay.

Yeah, no, it's one of those movies that's on everybody's list that nobody's seen, okay? Yeah. Right, right. Because everybody says like, oh, it's so great, you know, and you go like, oh, I'll see it. What's it about?

Okay. Okay. Brian, it's really about nothing, all right? It's like, just from school, I know it's part of the Australian New Wave and Peter Weir. It's part of, yeah, what I know about it.

It's crazy Australia times, which again, most of what they were making at that point is insanity. Yeah, no, so this is classy. All right, this is classy. All right, this is, it's very interesting movie. There are no sudden movements.

Things kind of unfold as they do in life much slower than you would like them to. So does it have to make sense or it just needs to be slow? No, no. Because some just. Sort of things happen for two hours and then you're like, huh.

I don't know what any of that meant, but it was slow and metered. Yeah, this is slow and metered. I do like things to make a little sense. I do like to be able to You know, I mean, I don't want to just be watching a screensaver. I mean, if that's what works for you, man, you go with it.

The colors, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to find the old Windows Pipe screensaver. I mean, it's pretty impressive. Let's be real.

I've seen some movies that pale in comparison. Yes, that's true. The Pipe screensaver was. Also, Flying Toaster is pretty awesome. Yeah.

I do miss the old Windows player music visualization thing. I mean, you know, I found one online that kind of does it, but it doesn't have the same. I was thinking of working that in as the, like, the video track for episodes. Yeah. Because we're all audio, but, you know, everybody wants everything on YouTube, so I'm trying to find...

I've got a weird filmmaking version that I'm also considering and may have done some test shots lately. So I'm like, otherwise I'm going to force that upon people. But if not, it'd be a lot easier to just have the old school visualizer that just has weird shapes and colors going on while you're listening to something. Oh my gosh. I love that.

I love it. That's what we need. I found one online where you can hook it up to your Spotify account and watch it. But it doesn't react the same. I don't know.

It's just not the same. It's not the same anymore, man. It's not the same. Picnic at Hanging Rock, though, is really cool. It's basically turn-of-the-century Australia at this girls' boarding school. as like high society teaching these girls, these rich privileged girls to be, you know, uh, pillars of the community and, uh, rules, rules, rules.

The rules have rules. There's, there's a, there's like layers and layers and they live this very stuffy controlled existence and they go out, you know, after much ado and much, uh, nothing. That much ado about nothing. They go to... Speaking of Shakespeare.

Speaking of Shakespeare. They go out to this... It's kind of like... In Georgia, it would be like Stone Mountain. It's like some natural rock formation that's out there.

I mean, it's Australia. It's a place called Hanging Rock. And it's just like these... this rock that's bubbled up out of the earth. It's a volcanic rock. It's not very impressive looking on the movie, but I saw it on Tubi.

This movie took six hours to watch. This isn't from the Australian Chamber of Commerce, you're saying. No, no, no. It's not convincing you to travel there to go visit Hanging Rock. No, I mean, it's like if you're just surrounded by scorpions and desert, it's probably...

If you go to the grocery, it's like that. I'm basing it on every movie I've seen. That's how it works in Australia. Yeah, I'm just basing it on the Mad Max movies. Pretty much, yeah.

Every trip, you climb into your car with spikes sticking out of it, and then you drive really fast, and then you light something on fire, and you flip your car. And then you get your milk, and you come home. You know, everything's like wake and fright. Did you ever see that? Wake and fright?

Yeah, or what's the. Fantastic. Cars that ate pears. That's the car I want. The one with the spikes.

I want that car everywhere I go now. Exactly. And also Peter Weir, and also on my to-watch list, which I. Haven't seen yet. I have seen that one.

Okay, cool, cool. Again, that's probably right up your alley, because it's another one of those I knew by reputation, and then I did watch it, and I went, what, what are we, what. Are we going? Where is this movie going exactly? And then we get there and I'm like, that is not what I thought this movie was going to be.

So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That car is the coolest part. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Confounding of like, what is this town we're in? Like, it's just weird.

So this might be your follow up to Picnic at Hanging Rock. Who knows? Peter Weir might be my new spirit animal. Seems to be. Yeah.

He's got a direction. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He definitely does. And he doesn't want to get anybody all riled up, you know?

And so this movie very, you know, so these boarding school girls go and they're all dressed to the, you know, in like proper English, you know, attire and everything. And they're going to go sit under the rock and have a picnic. And it's like, they all got parasols. And they're sitting and reading their, you know, books on geometry. And it's all very, you know, all pre-cell phones.

So nobody's scrolling. Everybody's... But there's also just like a lot of, you know, well, you sit in the shade and you just sort of sit and look at everybody. You know, and so, you know, that's what you did. I don't know if you're into.

The movie as much as this experience. You just want to live this experience. It's like nobody's doing anything. Yeah, nothing's happening. No, no, there's no...

There's no drama going on in this. And so eventually what happens is three of the girls go for a walk. Well, four of the girls go for a walk and only one comes back. And so they're told not to climb up on the rocks. And they ignore that and they do.

And so you never know. You don't, it's a mystery of what happened to these girls. Okay. And I was like, is this a true story? And it's not.

So everybody, everybody relax. Everybody relax. It's based on a novel. And, but the, it's more about these, the, so this girl go, they should have just said like Texas change. I'll based on a true story.

You know, everybody would have been like. Oh, as long as you convince people in, in the true Fargo tie in, right. Based on a true story. Not really. There is the hanging rock.

That place exists. So they go up there and they walk around and then it's almost just like this place that bubbled up out of the center of the earth is charged with some weird energy and it makes people act weird. Like at one point, the girls all take off their shoes and they lay down in like a square formation, you know, and sleep for like an hour. And then they wake up and then they just sort of wander into the crevices of the rocks. Not in a supernatural way, just they kind of walk off screen behind the rocks and they're never seen again.

You don't know what happened and you don't know why it's happening. You only just imagine that You know, the English colony came in and settled in Australia and they brought all their own rules and regulations, but that is not the rules and regulations of Australia. Australia is ancient and wild and there are places that are sacred and have bizarre... you know, energy that you don't, I don't, I don't believe in that, but I, I'm just saying it is kind of like nature has rules that people cannot tame, you know, I guess that's what, there we go. That's what the movie is about. I mean, I was just hoping.

And then the alien spaceship shows up and they all were beamed away. I was like, that's where I thought it was going. This is like fire in the sky. Yo, I know how this is. It's like, There's no spectacle.

Based on a true story. Yeah, I know this movie. Yeah, yeah. the movie is about then the town trying to figure out what happened to the girls. And then. one of the girls reappears and doesn't remember what happened and kind of, kind of like an abduct, abduction, but that, but nobody, but everybody's like, and there's so much guilt and like, and they can't believe that this girl doesn't remember what happened to the other girls. So they, she becomes like a pariah, you know?

And so it's really interesting story about small town and gossip and about how a town or how a, civilization reacts to things that can't be explained, you know? Um, so it's, it's great that no, no shot is quicker than, you know, 45 seconds. Two and a half minutes. We just hang there. We just, we're just, I was going like, ah, and I was just watching it going like, oh man, feel this movie breathe, you know, look, All the scenes just have room to stretch out, you know, and breathe.

And I was just like, this is incredible. This is totally what I'm into. I'm hooked on this kind of non-provoking, interesting movies that you can watch and digest as you watch them. Not like you're not digesting. beaten over the head every second while you're watching it and then the movie's over and you just feel bludgeoned and like, what did. I just watch?

What happened? I didn't even get to think about it while it was happening, you know? And it's just like, now it's over and I don't even know what the last 90 minutes were. I just feel like I got shook by somebody. I mean, to me that seems like a lot to deal with where you were very specifically trying to avoid that.

So I don't know about your judgment on these movies. No, no. But it was good. It was good. It was just a very metered pacing and it sort of unfolded as you would feel life unfolds, you know.

So it was good. It was good. Whew. What do you have left? Um, I did just trying to get caught up for events that are, well, have taken over.

This is, again, being way behind the times, but I did finally watch Sinners. Oh, hey, there we go. And this is for future generations. This is at the point in time that we don't know how many Oscars it won. But that was half my reason.

It is up for the most Oscars ever, and I haven't gotten around to it yet. And there's no reason because I like everything involved in this, so why haven't I seen it yet? So I finally just was like, okay, and that's what I'm watching this weekend. So I watched it, and it's pretty awesome. Okay, yeah.

I enjoyed the hell out of it myself. I've, uh, it's interesting. Uh, some of the people I've talked about, talked to thought it was like, meh, you know? And I go like, okay, no, I really had a great experience seeing it. And, uh, you know, I, I, the things that they're saying meh about, I get, but, uh, I thought it was a really good movie.

It's, it's interesting that it got as popular as it did. And I guess maybe it's the weirder aspect that makes it more mainstream because it's, it's, I mean, I knew it because people have been talking about it for a year now, but I'm just like, if you didn't know any better, I mean, it's like you walked into from dust till dawn, like two thirds of the movie is a period piece about, you know, horrible white people trying to keep you down and how society is and, these people trying to build up a life, you know, and like all of that just operates like a normal period piece until you get to that last third. And you're like, wait, wait, what? What are we? What?

Except I knew it was coming. So I was like the whole time I'm like, well, he's doing a good job setting up the world they're in. And like that in the end, it's like, they're kind of doing that thing of like, you know, anything, any type of message you're trying to put out there in a movie is you can tell just as easily in genre. So it's like, that's what he's doing. So like by the end you're like, Oh, and now we made it a secret horror movie.

But at the same time, the thing we just conveyed to you was all the other goings on in the day to day. This one day of their life tells you everything you need to know about these characters and all the people they're surrounded by and the world they live in. All of that is immersive in its own way. Yes. Along the road. and then you get there and be like oh by the way vampires so like it's it like throws that in as the curveball at the end if you didn't know if for some reason you made it that far in and didn't know it was gonna happen but yeah it totally works before you get that if that never happened i'd be like well this would still be up for oscars it just has such an extra little oh yeah, and by the way, this, like, this is, like, maybe the thing that makes it more palatable for mainstream type people, I don't know, but I'm like, maybe it's something that only Oscar people would have watched if it didn't have that last third, but now it's, like, people heard ahead of time, like, oh, it's kind of like a horror movie, okay, maybe I'll go see this, so, like, and then you get the treat that, you know, by the way, Ryan Coogler knows what he's doing.

Like, yeah, he is like an amazing filmmaker. Like you get to that shot built around music and I'm just watching that just mesmerized. I'm just like the way he's moving the camera and weaving through people and just doing this whole bigger thing. I'm just like, that's so impressive that I'm just like, yeah, I, and you can throw in vampires too. I'm fine with it.

Like, this is all good. No, No, no, no, no, no. What? You nailed it right there. The movie?

Okay. I don't care if it's the Oscar remix of From Dusk Till Dawn. Which it kind of is, but. It's like, let's take a Dimension movie and give it like big old Warner Brothers production. You know, and let's give this...

Let's spare no expense, but let's remake From Dusk Till Dawn for like, you know... the highbrow crowd. And, uh, and, and, uh, I mean, even right now, just forget that vampire show up halfway through the movie. The movie is about two gangster brothers, you know, who are, you know, you know, trying to, you know get to like some kind of you know better state of thing. You know it's like very day in the life for most of that movie that you're just like this is all like it's not gonna do a bigger story it's only telling and by the end you don't get a bigger story because of what happened but like if that didn't happen all we're getting is this we're back in town we're These are the people we know. We're trying to put this business together.

Like, it's very in the moment piecing together how things work in their lives. And, like, that's impressive in and of itself. And then you throw this other crazy curveball in. What? Yeah, folk dancing vampires, you know.

Yeah, you know, I always knew something was evil about Riverdance. And this movie completely, you know, got me. Confirmed my belief. It's actually, by the end, it's, I guess, spoilers. But, like, it almost tacks on an extra, oh, yeah, and white people suck.

The very end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then before that, they're like, well, we also want these white people to suck. But it's okay, they're Irish. so like right we can make fun of. The irish it's fine yeah yeah yeah yeah they're not really white.

People they're a different breed i get to say that i can make fun of the drunk irish people so it's fine but yeah i was wondering like it does give it a different spin that it's like well they're not just regular white people they're this other put upon group of people that are like their own weird bastardized version of the rest of society looks down on them, even though they're white, they like still get looked down upon. Oh. And on top of that, they're vampires. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's like the oppressed or like the, the, the people with nothing, they have their culture, you know?

And so even the vampires had their culture. I mean, a lot of people are saying it's about white appropriation or appropriation of culture, or like, so the vampires are like literally appropriating, uh, Uh, so it's making the, like the vampirism, like a literal thing, but you know, I mean, I guess that's what people are saying, but I mean, I saw like the white people was like, they were Irish, you know, poor dirt people. They weren't like the KKK people that show up, you know, it's like, uh, they're not like part of the mainstream society. They're, they're kind of like, you know, sharecroppers too, you know? And so like, but you know, what, uh, George Miller's, uh, when he was about, I'm reading the whole book on making Fury Road right now and everything.

It's great. It's great. He's insane. That movie was that. No, dude, Fury Road, the making of Fury Road is, uh, a tale for all time.

All right. It's, uh, it's, it's, it's amazing. The, the crazy resources he had for me from, um, Making those Penguin movies gave him so many, so much carte blanche with Warner Brothers to make this. Like, do whatever you want. Oh, my God.

Do whatever you want. Oh, okay. Okay. You don't know who you're saying that to, right? All right.

All right. I'll do that. Yeah. Yeah. So, oh, man.

I started talking about Fury Rose. I got distracted. Anyway, so, we're talking about sinners. Okay, but he said, George Miller said, even in, like, that have no material possessions, they make beautiful art, you know? And it's not like they're living in dregs.

I mean, they make things. Like, indigenous cultures, they have fantastic art direction. I think that's just humanity. Like, it's part of what we are. We need, or at least some beautification need to do that so again maybe it's in your tribe like these people are the specific ones that need to do that and the rest of us are gonna go make dinner and you know right some clothes but like there's some people that are like they need to do that and like that's again you latch on to that as the filmmakers like that they're the one that need then that's kind of the message of this i feel like too is like they're The musicians are, like, these are the storytellers, and that's also true of our director.

It's like, you are the storyteller. You are taking these stories and, like, capturing them and delivering them to other people and, like, preserving them, and you pass them on through generations as we, like, keep watching these movies. You are telling these tales over and over again. So, yeah, it's like, I feel like it has a bigger artistic value to it than just, oh, yeah, vampires, like. Yeah, white people suck and they're vampires and they're absorbing our culture.

I didn't really get that. I saw it as like, yeah, vampires were kind of like also hunted down citizens. They had a lot in common with the black characters in the movie. What I thought was interesting, once it becomes a bigger thing, then it felt like vampirism was a cult. Because it very– like by the time so many– like when they take out that whole group of people and then they're all part– they're like, it's better here.

Come with us. Like we can save you. Like they literally– like we can save you. And I was just like, wow. This is just a crazy religious cult that's built around– but they all legitimately see– it was almost like you're– of the body snatchers like everyone is different and you're the outlier like you're the freak at this point and like why are you fighting it if everyone else is happy and they're all of the same mind literally in this sense but you're fighting it still like are you wrong like i feel like that part was way more interesting and i didn't expect that out of it too so it's It's got like several different levels going on.

And I'm like, no, this has got a lot of different things to say that you wouldn't necessarily expect out of a period drama. You wouldn't necessarily expect out of a vampire movie. But this has both of them and a lot of other things too. Yeah. So you've got that stuff in it.

And there are hanging chads. There are hanging threads that don't get wrapped up. There are imperfect things about the movie, like the Native American vampire hunters never make another appearance. And that was an interesting thing that could have been fleshed out more. I was confused.

I went into this movie completely cold. I didn't know it was a vampire movie, even. I mean, I just saw... You don't get out, do you? I know.

I know. I just saw like, oh, there's this movie. Michael B. Jordan's in it. He's good.

Yeah, he's amazing. It's got like a 99% on the aggregator and everything. So, hey, that's good. I've got– so I took my son to see it too, which was good. It was good because it's basically like– They basically give step-by-step of cunnilingus.

I'm going like, well, this is like a public service announcement. This is educational on a lot of levels. I was going like, there's women in the audience going like, you need to be writing this down. Yeah, you need to be taking notes. Take a note.

Take a note. No excuse. Notice how he's concerned about what she's experiencing. Think about that when you get home. That's right.

That's right. That's right. Look, this is really like an after school special here. Hey, look, it's not all about you. Which is maybe a bigger takeaway from this.

Hey, you know, your culture isn't the only thing that's important, by the way. That's right. That's right. Exactly. It all ties together.

You know, that's why it's a good movie. That's why it's going to win all the Oscars. Okay. So, whatever. There's like a lot of stuff.

But I didn't know. Okay, I didn't know anything. And there's only one Michael B. Jordan on the poster. So, I was so confused.

There's only one Michael B. Jordan. I don't know if you know that, but. Yeah, yeah. And so I didn't know.

I was going like, what's going on? I know I'm not wearing my glasses, so I don't really. Is that two Michael B. Jordans in the movie? Or am I losing my mind?

Or what's going on? And why does this feel like the parent trap or dead ringers? Or is that what they're doing? You just aren't. Familiar with his twin brother, Michael C.

Jordan. I mean. Right, right. Michael A. Jordan and Michael B.

Jordan. He's in some of the movies, but you just didn't notice because they look a lot alike. I was thrown out of the movie. I was going like, I don't understand why my mind is trying to see two Michael B. Jordans.

You were thrown by the most basic of these things. Absolutely i was going like i'm enjoying this movie but i was kind of like mad that i was going like why didn't they just hire two different actors what is the point. I mean i was thinking that i was like they could have just been brothers they didn't have to be twins and the story would have worked the same like to me i always question that because i'm like you just made it so much harder for yourself like right what are you doing like if you just hire two guys You don't have to shoot any of this with extra coverage twice. This over here with that screen and this playing this out. And like, you just get two guys and they remember their lines and you're done.

You just made it so much harder. Was Michael B. Jordan just like, I don't want to be upstaged by anybody, so I'm just going to cast me because when Oscar time comes, I am not going to get passed over for the other guy. I don't want it questionable. Which one is the lead and which one is the supporting actor.

I'm the both. I'm the both. If I steal the scene from myself, that's fine. I'll win either way. I'm going like, there's a lot of actors who could have played that second brother.

And I don't. It'd be different. If it was necessary. Like if you referenced the parent trap. It is the reason the parent trap.

No, I never stood the Lindsay Lohan version because she was a nobody then. So I'm like, why didn't you just hire kids that were twins and you're done? But at least this is Michael B. Jordan. He is a movie star.

So it's like you understand why you want to bring him in. but it's not essential to the story that they're telling that they be identical twins like no it's just about brothers being brothers and wanting to take care of each other and like that all works whether you're twins or not so like absolutely i don't really understand like i was like fine with it but i was just like the more i thought about i was like why did he other than yeah maybe michael b jordan was just like nope this is my movie like you get that fancy camera that can go back and track this again. And I'm going to shoot both sides. Yeah. I mean, that's just how good of an actor. And I'm going like, you know, I mean, if you want, yeah, he's nothing, but I'm going like, you know, you know, from dust till dawn, they didn't like high, Trentino didn't play both the brothers, you know?

I mean, at least I could put up with two Clooney's, but like maybe one of them has the Clooney hair and one of them doesn't have the Clooney hair. And that's how you can tell them apart. Yeah, I'm like, I get it. One had a goatee and, you know, but I was just like, but I was like, but I was like looking beyond the goatee going like, is that Michael also Michael B. Jordan?

Anyway, I was just going like, I'm just, I was so confused. And so I should have read a synopsis or something about the movie that there was identical twins. And I was like, well, like, oh, this is all a special effect. This is all dead ringer thing. I wasn't expecting it.

Anyway, I got over it. Once I realized what they were doing, I was like, okay, but I just would, you know, if you want, I'm sure somebody else could have done fine in that second role. Anyway, but Kugler's flexing his, you know, and anyway, so whatever. But despite all this frustration and everything, I don't care about any of that. all right, I don't care about the vampires, I don't care, I mean, I love all the trappings, I love the immersive world they built, and the showing a side that you don't see in movies very often, and it was like, it was like, it was like, you know, just like the color purple, it was just like something that just really focused on the black experience at that time, in that place, and I'm going like, okay, fantastic, I don't care about any of that, because when it comes down to it, as all this in the theater projected as only you should ever watch a movie, you know, and, uh, and, uh, you nailed it right out of the box there, Brian, the scene where he finally starts playing in the club and it becomes like this dream logic thing of time crossing and the filmmaking, uh, extraordinary skill, uh, and everything coming together.

And it was just, it was like, uh, like I, felt like I was on drugs or something. It was just like, I was just like, this is, you know, the cinematic highlight of this year and everything, because that just gelled and it was worth, you know, going through the, uh, uh, from dust till dawn remake for just to get to that scene. And for it, you know, had it been, you know, it built it up. Because you're going like, wow, this kid must be really good playing and everything and tease it a little bit and all that stuff. But then when it's finally his time, you're so with that character and so wanting him to succeed and so wanting to have his time in the spotlight.

And when he does it and it transcends time and space, you're like, this is the movie right here. This is the scene of the movie. That is the movie, you know? So yeah, I'm with you. It's pretty impressive.

I got to the end. I'm like, yeah, all that stuff. People said they're not wrong. I was like, there's a reason it's up for a whole bunch of Oscars. Cause, it's good.

The people are good. The directing is amazing. Like it's, they're all right. Like I'm not arguing any of this. Yeah.

Yeah. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. Yeah. I would say it's a, yeah.

If it wins, that's great. You know, uh, uh, good for everybody. I feel like it's got to win. It's up for so many, like it's got to get some of them. Is it really the most nominated?

I think it is. I think it set a record for the most nominations for one movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So horror movie, uh, uh, you know, I love it. Uh, people who, you know, like vampires, you know, uh, cashed in i mean it's good it's good for the whole genre yeah you know we're now we're gonna get what what oscar treatment should we do next for an old horror. Movie i mean we're kind of at that point anyway they're redoing all the classics as sort of artsy like you're invisible man and. You're oh yeah yeah werewolf. One and we're getting a mummy one now and we got a dracula and like we're getting like yeah we're getting all these like super upscale versions of classic monster movies so i mean this this really isn't that different it's just a little more generalized with like yeah and vampires or whatever you know like but yeah they're kind of doing that anyway.

I'm just waiting for uh anthony hopkins nominated performance on the uh souped up ghoulies remake you know they better hurry up they'll get you in the end. As long as there's a toilet on the poster that's. The ghoulies the ghoulies reboot is no it's gonna be called uh gobble knobs or something you know and uh but it takes place uh It takes place in World War I in the trenches. I don't think you can change the title, man. The whole reason for rebooting it is to build on the brand.

You can't change the title. What's wrong with you? No, we take a plot from a horror movie from the 80s or the 90s and we just ignore that it's the plot. But we just A-list the hell out of it, you know? And then people say, wait a minute, that's the plot of this movie.

And I go, whatever, whatever. This is so much better than when I saw it as Critters 2. I can't wait for the Oscar. They bring back DiCaprio. Directed by Martin Scorsese, starring The Returnal.

It's a reboot. We pick up with DiCaprio's character from the first movie, but we're just going to call it. That's the trick. You call it the same title as you did the first time. So it's Critters 2.

But we're picking up where we left off before with the character as he's now a grown man and, you know. What's happened to him since the last time we saw him fighting Critters? No, you found the joke is them remaking Critters with Mars Corsese and Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, there we go. That's it.

You just wait for the Oscars to start rolling in. Oh, my God. Most nominated movie. Of all time. It's three and a half hours long.

And it's straight to Netflix. It's straight to Netflix. Right, right. Holy shit. Oh, my God.

All right. I've got one here. I don't know which one to... So I've watched about four really boring movies, okay? You did say that's your MO.

You're right, right. We'll talk about this one. Uh, it's cause we're talking about Oscar season. Okay. So I watched the Ethan Hawke blue moon movie, uh, by link letter.

I do like some Ethan Hawke. I gotta say he's right. He continues to deliver like, yeah. And for somebody who's like gotten himself up to like being Oscar level, he also like shows up for black foam and is great. Like, you know, it's like he, he doesn't, He doesn't turn down stuff because of, you know, he was in a Marvel series, for God's sakes.

Like, he's not too fancy to be able to just show up and work. And, like, he does other stuff and kind of classes those up. And then he'll show up and get nominated for an Oscar. So, like, he really does kind of deliver across the board. He does, he does.

I like him more now than back in the reality bites days. I mean, you know you were just a little jealous back in the 90s. You're like, why is Winona with him? With him, right, right. Obviously she loves me.

I'm way more like the other dorky guy. How come she chose him just because he's pretty? Okay, fine. Right, right, right. Right, so yeah, he was too much of a Hollywood pretty boy for me back in the day and everything.

But now he's like all, you know, he's getting a little like, you know, he's starting to look like the guy from Life Force. So I'm like, I don't have to be. We all get there. I can't call enough for that one. That's it, that's it.

So anyway, this movie's great. Nothing happens. It was fantastic. It was about, you know, it's just about... uh, you know, artistic jealousy and is about, uh, you know, trying, why, why does some things catch and something don't. And so basically it's kind of funny.

It's like this guy, you know, him and his, uh, you know, it's Rogers and Hammerstein, but it's not as, it's like before it's anyway, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not that big of a theater person, but it's, uh, So it's the people that wrote. It's actually really good. It's actually pretty good. So the writing duo wrote Blue Moon.

And no matter how much else they wrote, everybody just knows Blue Moon. This guy wrote like a million songs. And great songs. But for whatever reason, Blue Moon is the one that everybody knows. And so... uh, outside of, uh, Broadway circles.

Okay. So these two guys have made all these great Broadway musicals and then they split up because the person Ethan Hawke is playing has got a terrible drinking problem. And so it was always, always a problem, you know? And so the, the guy has gone on to, uh, get another partner as Rogers and Hammerstein is the new partnership. And they just came out with Oklahoma, uh, And it's basically Ethan Hawke is the biggest, most successful opening of any Broadway show ever.

After this guy has worked with his partner for 20 years, they break up and then the guy goes and he writes, you know, basically makes Titanic of the day, you know? And so it's about Ethan just being bitter and at the bar while he's it's very much like a stage play. You know, it's like he's at the bar, he's talking to the bartender and he's just, you know, waxing poetic about his career and everything. And he's like obsessed with this young ingenue, you know, that, you know, he's, you know, 30 years older than, but, you know, just like worships the, well, you know, just worships bows to her just to be in her presence for just a moment you know it's it's very it's no dignity or anything. That sounds about right yeah that's.

How i operate yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know and he just fawns over her but she's there's no interest there you know uh uh from her and so but so it's. Just yeah that's all tracks by the way yeah yeah it's like say yeah yeah yeah that was. Just about this sad guy at a bar you know his you know and he's trying to like rekindle the artistic spark that he used to have to to be successful again and get himself back on the thing but he's just got so much uh baggage he just you know he's just an alcoholic and he just can't stay away from it you know he's too insecure to to get away from it all You know, and so it's good. But, I mean, it is just like sitting and watching Ethan Hawke talk for two and a half hours, you know.

So it's like the Sunrise Trilogy Linklater. Yeah, right. Because I was like, he's so, like, pendulum. Like, he does such different types of movies sometimes. And then other times he totally does this.

So, yeah, this feels like more of the Before Sunrise typo. Linklater. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's very metered and very slow, but it's a great performance, and I see why he got nominated.

My favorite Ethan Hawke moment of any movie is this movie called Premonition. Predestination. Oh, I've seen it and it's, yeah, it's amazing. But talk about a movie that's going to overwhelm you. Like, yes, do not think too much on this or your brain will break.

It just will. There's, So, yeah, you know how insane that movie is. It's a lot. It's a lot. I think it's a Philip K.

Dick story, maybe. I don't know. It feels like it. Yeah, this was written by a crazy person. But there's that scene that the whole movie is kind of leading up to where the main character woman walks into the bar and finds old Ethan Hawke in there.

And he's completely... and completely wrapped up into conspiracy. And I just thought that scene, that movie, and then when you realize everybody's true identity, it's just so nuts how that scene is. Then you get to the end of the movie, you're like, oh no, I understand the crazy. That all makes sense now. That all makes sense.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, fantastic. I mean, I would... Sometimes when you see, say, like sinners... That musical number is the movie.

It's like, for me, it's like sometimes a movie can be fine, but then it's like there's that scene where it gels. And it's like, I don't care about the rest of the movie. I will buy that or I will recommend that movie just on how that scene came. Together, you know? Yeah, so.

Yeah, Blue Moon, recommend it. Well, if we eventually get around it out, I've got one more that I definitely wanted to get to only because it was important to me. I mean, I knew I wanted to watch it, but as I got into it, I was like, yeah, there's just so much of like a good portion of why this show exists sort of came off of this. If not the talking part, certainly the talking to other people out there in the world part. Right on.

So I watched Tura. And I say it like that because there is an exclamation point at the end. Tura. Oh. And it is the documentary on Tura Satana.

Fantastic. Okay. Okay. And I, it's funny. It had been so long.

This had been in the works. It was at the end of it. I went, wait, didn't I help make this? They started it as a Kickstarter. Yeah.

And I went back, like, I dug because my email has been around forever, and I was like, wait, and I went back and found, yeah, I contributed to it. So I was like, hey, I helped make this movie. So. Okay, please tell me, because it's on my list. I think it's on Prime that I can just watch it.

Yeah, it just, that's the thing. It's been, I mean, technically, I think its credit is, like, a 2024 movie, but, like, it just sort of started showing up in a lot of streaming places, so... Right, right. it may be something that people haven't been able to watch up until now. So that's why I kind of wanted to throw it out there for people anyway. It was like, yeah, if it is like, that's the thing.

I knew her story. So I knew the, the overview of it. And like, it's, it's heavy, like from the get go, like she lives such an amazing life. And like any of the first few things would have taken out most people. And like somehow she's still like made it past that. just to become a teenager to move into the burlesque world.

Yeah. So I guess just to give you fair warning of what you're getting into, because first off the part that I, the part that I found out from her, that's the other takeaway is I, I, it was one of the first people, I guess the first like real celebrity, the first person from movies that I talked to that I was like, Oh, this is amazing. Like, this is what I want to do. Like, this is for good or bad. There have been a lot of versions since then.

But this was many years ago. And it was pre the show. Like, I started a print magazine. And I, like, one of the first, you know, I'd seen... faster pussycat and was fascinated with it and i think it's it's its own weird masterpiece and i'm like i she was coming i had to drive like a extensive distance for me because now i never drive anywhere outside of town it's just i don't need to be driving that far anymore but um we like misty and i made a road trip to go see her because she was coming to do a convention and and put together an interview and like sat and talked to her and she was amazing and so cool And it was like, that's the thing. It's like, there's been a lot of weird variations, but I'm like, if this is it, if this is how cool everybody is, I want to do this all the time.

And like, there's been a lot of crazy trips in between there for me, but like that was the one that kicked it off. And that was the one that made me appreciate just sitting down and talking to somebody who's like this cool, fascinating person that I wanted to keep doing it and led me down this road. I've made it this far. But that being said, I knew, like, the first thing I think I learned from her was the whole, the thing that was done to her family, which I think at the time, like, growing up, this is one of those weird things where it's funny that as a country, even more so these days, the things we don't discuss about our country. Like, we're involved in World War II, and those people, nazi bastards and they were taking people and putting them in camps and the horrible things they were oh by the way we were doing that to japanese people who were born in this country lived in this country were u.s citizens and like we took them away from their homes took all of their money took their property and And put them into camps.

And like, this was done to Tora as a child. So her dad was like a successful businessman. They took all of that. He never got it back when the war was over. Our government just took that away from them.

And we're like, well, tough luck. you're Japanese, in quotes, because she wasn't. She was. And as you find out, that's kind of not even true as you go into their ethnicity. So it's weird that just anybody that they deemed to be a threat was taken away. So there was already that, where they lost everything their family had built for this whole generation of him coming here.

Then on top of that, they're thrown into this once they resurface, it's in like this, like essential ghetto of Chicago is where they relocate them. And they're the only Asian family there. And they are already like, you know, she's put upon for that reason because everybody else it's also coming out of or towards the end of world war two. So everyone around is blaming her, you know, like, Oh, you're the enemy because you look like the enemy. Everyone is blaming her for, you know, World War II, which seems a little much.

Oh, yeah. So her and her family are the problem. Just being in the neighborhood. There's that. So she's also she's also like being treated like that as a child.

Again, she's like nine at this point. Yeah. So that's also at the point in her life when five guys show up in a car and say, hey, come over here and throw her. In the car. And hold her down and do things to her that were not.

Yeah. She like, yeah, all of the guys, all of the guys. And, and just beat her and called her names in the process. And like, all of this is going on. She's not even 10.

She's a few way days away from her 10th birthday at this point. So all of that before she's 10 years old, like, And she, as you then, like it goes on. So again, you got to deal with all of that. It's pretty heavy. And it all kind of plays in as the story unfolds.

So if you want to unfold a story, this one definitely does that. Because then we get to the point that like she, like her mom comes. of blames her like her mom's piece of work so like she's sort of you know you're the problem with this family and we don't want the you know people to find out what's happened and you to bring shame upon the family even more than we already have and like that's yeah I'm like this is some people don't need to be having children I think Whatever. So then she takes it upon herself. You see these steps, some of which they just sort of touch on, some of them they dig into. But she not only survives that, but she decides, okay, I'm going to become a stronger person.

So she literally, physically starts to take... martial arts classes so she like physically takes on that that responsibility but then also she like i'm going to find a way to support myself so like she starts someone real again she developed very early so she's 15 and gets a gets a fake id gets a job like just sort of working in the burlesque club and then somebody doesn't show up for work and her boss is like hey you should get up there and then she found out how much money and she's like oh okay And does it. And then spends decades after that of just like building a career as like a successful burlesque dancer. And then a few years later, like the, she's not as, as scorned for being Japanese, but at that point we're into the fifties and then it's more of a novelty.

So then she starts again being super smart. She starts playing on now it's exotic in quotes. And so she starts playing it up and like, she's, some visiting dignitaries call her like miss beautiful Japan or some weird title. And like, so then she starts billing that and she starts dressing in the attire, even though like she didn't grow up that way, but she's just like, screw it. I can use this.

So she builds this persona and like plays into the Japanese stereotype. And then you get to the point where she's like starting to get him, you know, make connections with people in town when she moves to LA and, I'll pause for a second here because also, and maybe the most impressive part, the most impressive, and if you don't think she's a freaking hero, like she also, by the time, this didn't happen right away. In like a 20-year period, after she's already somewhat successful as a burlesque dancer, goes back to Chicago, runs into one of the guys in the diner. Yeah. And lets him take her back to a motel as he's going to do, you know, what he thinks he needs to do.

And she calls him out for being who he is because he doesn't recognize her. And then ties him to the bed and tortures him. Wow! And leaves him there with child rapists scrawled upon his chest. Holy shit!

And then manages to track down the other four guys over the next several years. And physically takes out her revenge on them. I'm like, wow. Like if you didn't already, yeah, this all, like I heard this at the time. I didn't know some of the details that they go into, but like I, she, when I talked to her, she's like, and I tracked them down and, and you know, I got even.

And I was like, whoa, like even then, but now knowing some of the, like the, the, dedication and the years of like she knew like they all went to trial she knew their names and one of the guys had money and paid off the judge to like dismiss it and of course she's a kid she's japanese like she's like there's she's a woman nobody believes anything she says so they all just like meh and shrug it off and like they got away with it well they didn't get away with it. So Holy cow. There's a nice little in-between thing that comes along. And that's, again, before you even get to her moving into film. Yeah.

Because then there's, like, the other one that she talked about at the time. Like, she also, early on, before he's the biggest star in the world, meets Elvis. Wow. Elvis proposed to her at that point. Wow.

She told him no. And she also, speaking of the lesson that you learned in Sinners, she taught him how to kiss. Yes. She taught him how to please her. And she said, after I was done, he did pretty good.

I had no complaints after that. So she, in Sinner's style, taught him how to take care of her. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, so he went on, like they said, like the whole rest of his life, he's still like, he talked about, like he supposedly came to visit them and was like, you were you were supposed to be my kid to her children. Wow.

And years towards the end, she was like, she didn't like his drug use. And he would still call her up and he could talk to her because she wasn't starstruck. She just knew him as that weird kid that, you know, was obsessed with her back in the day. And like, so there's that kind of stuff. Like she, again, there's so many people, they kind of hint that Sinatra over the years, she definitely, um, so many like people in the films that like, because again, she's like so ahead of her times.

She's just like, you know, I don't, I don't care what people think. I, you know, enjoy having sex with people and I'm going to do it. Like, so I'm going to take care of my needs and like, I don't care. So even as she got into, I'm not going to get married to one guy. And there's several people that were like, yeah, I, I, you know, I want to, I want to be.

And she did get married a few times over the years. And actually that was like her downfall as you get into it. It's like the guys that she picked weren't always the best for her. She loved them, but like they definitely, one of them was not good. And the other one still kind of stifled her as you know, her separate career and like who she was.

He was just like, Oh no, you need to put that behind you kind of thing. But like, yeah, I mean it is, it is a fascinating story that like, All of that just sort of, yeah, covers the overall, but there's so many details. Along the way that, yeah, I mean, Billy Wilder's another one. She's making Irma LaDeuce, and, like, he's totally into her, and she's like, he was married, and he was going out with a couple other girls on the side, but I didn't care. I didn't want to marry him.

I just wanted to have sex with him. Like, there's so many times that she's just like, I don't care. I just did what I wanted to do, and, like... It's just amazing. And same thing with Russ Meyer.

He like, she told him up front, she's like, I don't want to have anything to do with you. And he, and he, but he had like a thing on his sets where he's like, I don't want people hooking up on the set. I don't want you out having sex. Cause it takes away from the, you know, he's a very professional guy. So like, but again, I think he just more wanted to control people.

Cause that seems more like what he was into. But she was like, well, too bad. Cause I'm going to do what I want to do. So she picked like a production assistant or an assistant AD kind of guy and was just like, you, you're going to be my guy. And like, so they'd be done shooting for the day and he'd come over and take care of her.

And she'd have to chase off Russ as he was trying to peek in the window watching. There's so many stories along the way. That I'm just like, this woman was amazing. Like, Uh, so I'm, I'm glad that like the story lived up to the hype and like, as much as I thought she was super cool, I was like, maybe I just, you know, cause I met her when she was much older. I'm like, so it seems like she was like so calm and fun when I met her, but you hear these stories about her back in the day of just like laying down on the law and like beating people's ass.

And I'm just like, man, she is just so cool. Yeah. Like basically she's the character from the movie. I mean, she, well, that's, yeah. that's even how they, that's the other thing. It's really well made because it even says like, it starts off with this horrible thing that happens to her.

And like, they didn't know it, but like Varla was born like in this, this, this, thing that lived in her and this this anger that lived in her like comes out in this character that then goes on to become an icon like she's yeah she's known for this visual of her like whether people have seen the movie if you show them a shot of her they're like oh that yeah i know that like yeah yeah she's just power like she's just known for being this strong powerful woman and like that came from that moment and she like created that character before it was a character And the movie came along and she's like, no, I've got this. yeah. So like, it's, it's weird as that movie is like it, it sort of fulfilled this thing of like her becoming this icon of, of powerful women.

And like, and she, she just, she is that. And she became that. And yeah, it's, so yeah, the movie is also, I was, I was also really glad that like, I guess the donations worked because it also was well made. Like, Usually you can see if, if it's a specifically a documentary and if it's a low budget documentary, sometimes they don't even have enough, like, cause you're kind of filling in the story. So sometimes there's like, you just got to throw something on the screen as background while somebody's talking and telling you something.

Right. Right. And sometimes they don't even have the money to cover what you have to pay to go get real footage. And like, They have all, in addition to, like, they talk to her daughters now, so, like, they have all this, like, home video stuff and photos from her back in the day and all this old school imagery of her, but they also, like, run clips of things that happened around the same time and it's like actual good footage and stuff that like they had to pay licensing for and like so they did it the right way and they bring in like good visuals and there's stuff that they didn't have actual moments of so they have like drawings of it that are like this amazing artwork that they've done of things that happen so it's like every step of the way they work in these like really well financed pieces of this this puzzle coming together and even like they work in some music along the way that like that costs money and you can tell sometimes when you know documentaries can't afford to work in music or they work in weird generic stuff that's not very good and like they work in really solid music along the way.

So it's like everything along the way is just like really well put together. So I was, I was very happy to see it. It turned out. Cause I, I knew they were making it and I was so afraid it wasn't going to be any good. And like, for as much as I thought she was amazing, I was afraid then they're going to put out this mediocre documentary that wasn't going to, you know, live up to her legend and like, no, no, this delivers.

She is a legend, but there's also like humanity to her. Like you see, and like their stories or daughters are telling that like, there's times when she's not a great mom and you're like, you, you get a real sense of who she was, you know, dealing with all of this stuff. And like, she probably had some medical mental issues going on that like probably needed to be dealt with and weren't because that's not the world she grew up in. So like it's, yeah, it's a really well put together, you know, portrait of this woman that, that was so many things and kind of, is above and beyond everything you'd heard. So yeah, I was really pleased with how well it was, it was put together.

Yeah, no, that's awesome, dude. Well, I'm, I'm totally hyped to see it. Uh, uh, whatchamacallit. Yeah. It's like there were, there was no, like, uh people dealing with their trauma back then you know like now everybody's.

Barely believed you when you're like right a little girl you're poor you're yeah you're not white like you know. Right right the marginalized people they just have to take care of themselves you know and some people you know under that kind of you know abuse they crumble you know And some people become giants. Yeah. I mean, like so many people would have not even made it out of that. Like, you know, let alone the other thing.

Like, even if you didn't have those horrible two things at the beginning of your life. any other girl that's 15 working the burlesque clubs that have got like guys thinking they can just buy her. And you know, like the club owners telling her, yeah, I want you to start having sex with these clients when they come in. And she's like, hell no, I don't do that unless I want to, like, I'm not doing it for money. I'm doing it when I feel like it. So like she was just so ahead of, you know, what would become women, you know, hopefully now, like hopefully we, again, still you don't get a lot of those choices when you need them, but she's just so ahead of what was going to come about and what, what would be what, you know, women's liberation would become.

But like she was doing that, you know, 20, 30 years before that. So yeah, she was, she was an amazing woman. Yeah, no, it's a, no, that's really cool. Uh, kind of like the, the reaction, both, both of those reactions though, her, her becoming so strong, it is like, a mutation it's something that wouldn't you know it it was forged in you know a really bad situation yeah i mean if. She just had a normal even just a poor child kind of an upbringing like would she have become anything different but maybe she would have just had a regular old life but because so much was thrown at her when she wasn't even a teenager yet that like she just became this other thing that, yeah.

Yeah. It created her, yeah. Right, right. It's just basically like, whatchamacallit, like being shot by gamma rays, you know? I mean, it's just like, it is a true, it's the true thing about.

It's forged in fire, man. Yeah, yeah. Mutations and heroes, you know? People go through something. And it, changes you know stronger person than she could have ever thought she would be and like yeah just goes on to build this amazing life and and like again it's it is a nice for as much heaviness as there is it does end at the point where i.

Met her which again i thought she was just so nice and and And she just was so friendly and just laughing about stuff. And like, that's her telling us stories as we're sitting there talking to her. And, and this was you so many times you see somebody who's like this, you know, great artist or whatever, and then nobody appreciates them. we get to see like at the tail end, there is the, when the convention world started up and like she started hitting those and people just lined up and people loved her because she's such a fun, lovable person. So she got to, she got to see that at the end of her life, that people appreciated what she had done and what she had lived through and like who she became.

And they all kind of like got it. And you're like, so the fact that she got to experience that before she died was sort of amazing. So I, I, I'm glad it ended with that. It would really suck if we had all these horrible things. And then later she got to be this legend, but like she never knew.

But it was just those last like 10, 15 years maybe that people just started to realize she was still out there and started bringing her to these events and people would line up. So it's like she at least got to realize that people appreciated who she was and what she did. Man, that rocks. Yeah. That rocks.

Well, dude, I'm hyped. And while you were telling, I was going like, I have not seen faster pussycat since, uh, since college. And it was like, and it was like, you know, so it's been what, 30 years since I've seen it. And I'm going like, that was, I've only seen it once and it was, but it was a very, it left a huge impression. I was just going like, it's such a weird mixture.

Because it's like, to me, it's for somebody who was such a schlocky filmmaker and I'll call him out. Like all of his nudie films in the beginning are just, They're barely watchable even if you're just there for nudity. Like they're not great. Right, right. And he knocks out like one or two in the middle because I also think Lorna is pretty cool.

But it's still way more of like a sort of sex-oriented movie. This one is just action. Like you really don't get nudity in this one. It's lots of boobs. Don't worry.

There's lots of boobs. But like it's not a lot of nudity and it's way more violence. And, like, it works more as exploitation in sort of the violent end of it and the just beating people's ass and racing cars. And, like, it's a drive-in movie through and through. But, yeah, it's funny that it, like, if you go back and watch it, there's also, like, and this I blame Russ more than anybody.

She just yells the whole time. And they bring that up in the documentary. They're like, why is she? And they're like, that's part of this pent-up hostility her whole life. Cause all of her lines, she just yells at everybody.

Like she's just angry. Varla is just angry at all times. And like, so again, a better director would be like, well, we don't need this all the time. But like, so again, because you watch her in other movies and she doesn't do that all the time. She's, you watch her in Billy Wilder movies and she delivers normal lines because a normal filmmaker is filming it.

But Russ just didn't care. And he was like, yeah, get up there and do that. So Russ just being sloppy, you know, it probably could have been a little polished, but like in a way it's so amazing the way it is because it's just, it is raw. It is just, but that footage of like your black and white footage is, racing cars the mojave desert like. Yeah just these statuesque women beating people's ass like she just kicks people's ass in bad kung fu style and like it's just it's so visually stunning to look at that like you can put aside the insane dialogue and like it's got these amazing visuals at the beginning of the dance montage and like.

Yeah i don't know i just i was i saw it The first time on the big screen. Talk about being a weirdo. Oh, nice. The first time I saw it, it came to the old school theater that I've told you about many times. They were playing.

I think it got reissued at some point, or they'd done a cleanup job on the prints or something, and they put it back out there. I only kind of knew it by reputation. Had seen very little of it then. That was so long ago. You didn't even have clips or anything.

It was pre-internet, so I just... had heard about it, went to the theater and was just blown away. Just mesmerized by these visuals and like what was going on. And the fact that it wasn't like a smut movie, like it was, you know, it was just action more than anything else. And like weird violence. I was just like, Oh, this is totally not what I expected from Russ Meyer.

And like, it's, it's just, I don't know. Again, it is its own thing. And like, if you appreciate it, You appreciate it on its own terms, because it is its own weird movie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a singular kind of thing.

I just looked up if it's available to own, and it actually has a Blu-ray. It's all out of print, so it's like you know probably made them specifically. For the the kickstarter people or something because right i don't think i had a huge amount i kicked in actually more than i thought i again that tells you how much i cared about it because i was like i put that much in like i had no money back then and still don't now so like I'm glad I contributed what I could because it was, yeah, it shows on screen, man. It's a well-made documentary. I'm talking about like the movie Faster, Pussycat.

Oh, that, yeah. Well, that was always weird because, again, for the longest time, like when things came out on VHS and you could start to have sell-through, like when they finally brought it where it wasn't $ 79. 99, $ 99. 99, they started doing that $ 20 buy-through amount. Russ still had the rights to all his movies, and he wouldn't do that.

You had to buy them for, I think it's still, like you had to go, they were all through his website. The early days of websites, he had one that was Russ Meyer's individually run website, and you had to buy the VHS copies directly from him, and they were like 80 bucks a pop or 100 bucks, and they never marked them down. So the only place that had them were video stores, essentially. Like, only super hardcore geeks would spend that much money. Everybody else, you just had to...

Like, he banked on the fact that everybody knew him by reputation. So all of this got rented out by specialty video stores that had a fan base that would come in and rent those. And, like, that's... that's how he made his money. He's like, I think I'll make more if I keep it at the higher, because again, he knew it wasn't mainstream. So he's like, if I can sell it to all the video stores for a more expensive price, I'll make more money than 20 bucks for the handful of geeks that'll like find me on the internet and buy it for that.

So I think again, him being the marketing genius, whether or not he was an artistic genius, he definitely knew how to sell his product and Once again, that was him doing his thing. So, yeah, that's probably why they're still so expensive. Yeah, yeah. It looks like, though, next month a Blu-ray is coming out from him, from his studio. I was going to say, now he's gone, so probably a level-headed person is taking over.

Or we could just make a real regular movie and not try to scam people out of money. Yeah. Yeah. But it looks like this is the first time in a long time and everything else is like 200 bucks. This is $ 30, but it's, it's bare bones.

It's just the movie on a Blu-ray and that's all you get. So you got to get these supplemental, like this Tura documentary. Yeah. There's a lot. Of cool stuff in there.

They've got some behind the scenes photos and like, there's not a ton of extra stuff, but they do show some of the behind the scenes stuff and definitely all the behind the scenes stories from that era. So yeah, it's, It's fun for that, too, because you get at least a little snippet in the middle there about the Faster Pussycat. Nice. Nice. Good deal.

Good deal. Man, that's awesome. Okay. Okay. So I've got...

All right. I'm exhausted. Yeah, that's what I figured. I wanted to get that one in just to let people know it's out there and let people know Tura's amazing. Absolutely.

Absolutely. I've lanced... The boil. Lovely. This is incredible.

But, I mean, there's one more to talk about, but I'm going to have to give it the short shift. Because I just don't have the stamina to go into it as it needs to be gone into. Okay. You can throw it out there for people, your general overview. If we need to return to it, I'm sure it won't be long until we're doing this again.

Sure. Okay. All right. Just in case it gets its own episode when you see it. All right.

Or at least we can go back to it when we've both seen it. And so we can discuss it a little bit deeper. but I'm going to give a very high recommendation to another movie. Also with an exclamation point at the end of it, uh, the bride, ah, the bride, uh, okay. So not the Jennifer bills. There's no sting in this thing.

Stings not in this man. This is, uh, the bride. Uh, I, I, it's, it, um, I'm just going to say it doesn't stick every landing it's trying to do. But like Sinners, which also did it, but there is so much in this movie that is really thought-provoking and resonated with me very much and that I felt like it was a huge... beautiful why you go to see a movie uh it was like it was about movies uh it was a big pastiche of pop culture stew and it had so much going on in it and uh when i saw the trailer i was going like what is this miscalculated bullshit i mean oh my gosh they've They, somebody made a mistake and I can't believe this is a movie coming out, you know? Uh, and, but it was stuck with me, right?

I brought it up on the, on the recent horror club episode that it was the trailer that played when I saw scream. Yeah. And, um, yeah, I, I was like, that's the first I'd seen the trailer and I knew it, I'd heard about it. I knew it was coming out, but that's the first time I'd seen anything that was like, yeah, this is, this is a swing. So it's either going to, Nail it, or it's going to be like, what was that?

So it at least seems like, you know, again, I respect Maggie Gyllenhaal. I like what she comes up with. She seems, even as an actress, just trying to do things that are unconventional. So, like, this definitely feels like it's, like, punk rock Bride of Frankenstein. Like, it's just, like, everything that's not the norm, we're going to throw in here, and this is my movie, and deal with it or don't, I don't really care.

So. I like that. I like that as a concept, whether or not the movie comes together is I just like the, that approach to filmmaking. I got to respect that. Yeah.

I mean, it is, it is a spectacle and it is attitude and it is very in your face and it, but it's also just got like such a cool conceit of doing like, uh, yeah. Like, bride of Frankenstein and his bride as, uh, as like, you know, a Sid and Nancy slash Bonnie and Clyde story. And also doing it like, uh, in such lavish strokes, uh, and, uh, such a fully realized period piece, just kind of like centers, you know, just, uh, like it, Like you're going like, how did they get so much money to make this movie? That's the thing. It looks like a big budget movie when you're watching that trailer.

Like, yeah, this is not, again, this, they didn't half-ass this. Like this looks like a well-financed movie. No, it's almost like, well, you know, it's like those asylum movies, like Theodore Roosevelt, Monster Killer or something like that. Transmorphers. These movies where it's just like Red Riding Hood versus Godzilla.

Just these weird concepts that are usually given a $ 40 budget so it never fulfills the potential. It can't deliver even if it wants to. Right, right. Exactly. All they had was the core concept that they just could barely afford enough uh you know they could barely rent the camera you know and um uh the entire budget went to the video box and uh and and so this is like like that kind of idea of like you know uh bride and frank you know as like 1930s on the road bonnie and clyde kind of thing but done with like like all the money at Warner brothers.

And, um, and it was very interesting and it was very much, uh, about monsters. And it was very much about, uh, uh, uh, Frankenstein movies. And it was very much about bride and about, you know, filtering it through a modern feminist lens, you know, and, uh, very much like Tura who, uh, Just like, I just want to have my, I just want agency over my own life. I don't want to be owned by anybody. I don't want to be pushed around.

I just want to have, I want to say what I've got to say. That's very much like the bride is just like saying like basic human rights of not being told what I am. and being able to express my soul, uh, and, and not repress that just because I'm a woman, you know? Um, so it's, it's real, that is really good, dude. It's really good. I mean, I would say it's, and it's really interesting how they're marketing it.

Cause it's, it's, uh, Or what it's trying to be, and I don't think it is going to make it. I don't know if anybody's seen it. I saw it with, like, there was other two other people in the theater, you know, but I mean, I went, yeah, yeah. Uh, but they shot it for IMAX and they're playing at IMAX, but only at like a 10 30 show. So, uh, like, so it's like kind of, I can see them trying to maybe do it as a Rocky kind of thing, you know, you know, but it's, uh, but you know, but I, and it is kind of got that attitude of a, of a midnight movie, uh, done with a list level production values.

And the, the gal playing the bride is great, but really, but you know, she's very, she's very, she's very in your face, you know? And, and so, and the movie is very in your face. So Christian Bale gives a very subdued, you know, grounded Frankenstein portrayal. And I'm going like, I'm going like, I'm going like, man, if you get good actors in your movie, I mean, because this movie would have been terrible had the acting not been so good. Yeah.

You know? And it's weird to do this type of story in the wake of Poor Things. Because I mean, like, in listening to you describe it, I was like, that's like almost exactly, like, that's what I took from Poor Things was like, it's so... It's so Frankenstein story, but done with sort of a feminist slant of like, yeah, but I'm my own person and I want to find my own way and do what I want to do. And if that's, you know, as she finds out, hey, you know, sex feels good.

Yeah. Why would I not do this? So like she gets and you've got all these guys that come along that tell her she can't do that or. I want to be the only one you have sex with. And like, it's, she's just like, but why?

And like, nobody has the answer really. It's just like, well, but that's the way it's supposed to be. And she's like, but I don't want it that way. So like, so again, like the fact that just a couple of years ago, we had a story that kind of explored that. So it's interesting now with this taking a very different take on it, but yeah, I think that's interesting that we've had like, a one-two punch of both of these sort of examining that basic idea.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I did. I have not seen poor things, so I didn't. I mean, it's amazing.

So yeah, it's, it's definitely, I got to check it out. Also put on the list. Yeah. So yeah. So this one is like very, uh, this one here is very much like the bride waking up and not having any memory of her former life.

She's only known, uh, She's just existing just to be the bride of Frankenstein. So that's very much, you know, the thing of like, we are more than just your bride, you know? So that's interesting. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like a thing of like you're born to get married, you know. You're put on this earth just for me.

Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. And so it's loaded. It's loaded with that kind of, you know, there is no subtext in the movie, but it's very out there. but it's, it's very well made and very well directed and very well put together. And, uh, I really enjoyed it.

And it was very, uh, uh, it, it got to me in points. And, uh, I mean, I'm just going like, I don't know what the reaction's been to it, but I've, I would say this is– I can feel that this is going to be one of the movies that I would walk into a room of people talking. I go like, man, I love The Bride. Everybody going like, oh, that was the worst movie. Yeah.

That's the thing. I can think of people I know that would think that's the worst movie ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I can definitely hear.

That coming from a very specific group of people. Sure, sure, man. Yeah. So I, I get it. You know, I get it.

I mean, I, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm, I'm, I'm looking, I'm looking forward to you seeing it so I can hear your take on it. Cause I, I really, I thought it was great. So thumbs up. So then you're going like, they say there's no original movies, you know, and everything, but this is very often left field, you know, and it could have been terrible.

When I saw the trailer, I was going like, this is such a, major swing for the fence. That's what I'm saying. It's just a swing. That's all I said. I was like, I don't know if it's going to work, but she's going for it, man.

She is definitely putting it all out there. That's it, man. Just ran out of the house naked and just hoped everything was going to work out okay. I think it was a. It was a successful experiment.

We've seen Blue Velvet. We know that all works out fine in the end. That's right. Fine in the end. Yeah, yeah.

And it's got Annette Bening in it as a mad scientist. I mean, you're going like, wow, that's crazy. Anyway, so yeah, great movie. So check it out. As i uh as i threw out there when we pieced this together we were like do we even need a specific thing and i'm like no i was like if you put us in a place and let us start talking we'll cover it don't you worry so we get around there you go we have definitely covered a lot of topics a lot of movies and life as a whole i think we figured it.

All out yeah man i think so i think i think uh Secrets of the universe were discovered here and everything. That's what we do. Movies. Movies, man. Movies.

It's just bringing people together. Bringing awkward introverts together. I was going to say, it brings you and I together. And then if other people come along for the ride, thank you. You are very patient.

Thank you for your patience. We appreciate it. And you are very patient. Oh, my God. Yeah, for real, dude.

Oh, man, that's good stuff. All right. Cool. Brian, man, we got to eat. Eventually, yes.

That's why geeks, you know, we get so worked up. Eventually, we're like, oh, man, I got to, like, make dinner. I've been at this for most of the day now. I've been doing my geek things and forget I got to make a sandwich or something eventually. You got to make a sandwich, bro.

Yeah. Right on. Thank you for coming along on this cinematic journey. Yeah. Everybody else out there.

Yeah. Thank you. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time. Same geek feed.

Thanks for listening. I'm so sick of all these pretty boys trying to act like the shit. And I just wish. I've been searching, don't think it's out there. Talks for hours, walks.

In with flowers. Dirty converse, six two and brown hair. Kiss me till I'm numb and I'll treat me so bad. He makes me laugh. He's never on my nerves.

It's along with my dad. I've been searching. Don't think it's out there. Oh, so loyal makes me. Everything that I want to do Yeah, I wish they would just be like, you just need to have an Amazon video store where you go in and you rent a little slip. of paper or like a cue and then you bring it back home and then you just show it to your...

Just so you can feel like you got out of the house. Yeah, it's more convenient because you have to get up and go drive there and then walk around the place and look at the back of the box and then when you're done, you just take the slip out and you go home with the slip and you punch in the code and you're like, ah, found a movie. The future! This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by The Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.

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