173. Catchup: Revolution

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This is a catch up. So it's just us going through a bunch of the movies we've watched since the last time we talked about a bunch of the movies we've watched. That is our definition. Uh, look, it up the dictionary. It's there, Christine.

You got a lot of movies. I got a lot of movies. But this kind of starts up probably at the end, like around Christmas time was like probably the last time we did this. I will skip over my you know, ninety seven three Watch of the Muppets Christmas, Carol and Muppet Family Christmas. I'm sure you did those as well.

For the whole I did. I didn't cusp but my first movie of the year because I track on letterbox and you have you see it every time you look at your stats, like and I've picked some really unfortunate first movies of the year, so this year I would know I'm gonna have to look at this all year. We're going big. So my first movie of twenty twenty four was Muppets Take Man. Oh, you're doing it right.

You're doing it so great, and it makes me happy. Every time I see the cover, I'm like, oh, that is that's a smart thing. I know a lot of people have different like ways of doing that first movie of the year that some people like to like I'm gonna start I'm gonna watch like the best movie of last year, or a movie that I've heard great things about that I should do. I like that idea of no, no, no, because what I usually end up doing, inevitably it ends up being like some shitty Lifetime thriller. I don't know what it was this year, i'd have to I don't know how quickly I can figure that out, But I like that idea of like I used to do that on my birthday.

I would just rewatch. Like today, I'm gonna turn on dat of a Dead or a Maximum Overdrive or some movie that I love that I just want there when I want to feel that way. But I uh, I don't know what mine was. You're you're smart that way. How would I even know when added newest first?

They're a way to break up your Oh, I don't know it was probably those are all Christmas movies, so they would have been late. Okay, it might have been. And I'll dive into this one because I think you might have watched this by now. Oh I'm a big You know things that are going to be nominated for Oscars or are name it imrid for Oscars. I like to try to watch that.

I can be justified in having very strong opinions come ceremony time. This one actually was not nominated for Oscars, but had a lot of talk about it, and it was one that you kind of like couldn't not watch because it felt like everybody was talking about it. So I wanted to watch it quickly. And that was saltburn I still have not watched You haven't, okay, I really really need to? Sure do I?

Oh, no, it's fine, it's fun, I think it. No, it's just impossible to come at this movie because it's even me not being somebody that is like on TikTok or really like immersed in any social media discourse of anything. I still like, somehow can't avoid hearing people who's who I don't know. Like it's one thing if like my friends are talking about Saltburne, okay, yeah, then let's talk about it. But it's like somehow this movie is everywhere and I it's fine, I but I don't want to.

I still want you to watch it without any anything. And I think the farther you get away from the conversation around it, then the more like fresh you can go in. It's perfectly fine, it's very enjoyable. I had a good time. There are things in this movie that are very good.

It looks great, Rosamund Pike is hilarious. There are some very funny moments there. I did chuckle. Everybody looks very pretty. I just don't know that this Merit's like the you know, stop everything, this is the movie of the year.

Conversations that came about it. Can I ask you a question about it? You certainly can doesn't really answer it. Well, it's very broad. I don't So I don't know anything about it still, which is somehow remarkable.

I have no idea what this movie is. Yeah, I have never read a synopsis. I've never seen a trailer. I've seen some stills, but that's it. So something that happened a couple of weeks ago I think was a few of like the bootleg T shirt companies that I follow YEP, all released designs for it.

And I was like, is this like a like a genre movie or like a cult movie? I used I just did air quotes. She couldn't see me though, like a cult movie. Like I didn't understand why there was this sudden outpouring of these types of shirts and designs for this style of movie. I didn't get it.

So now I feel like I don't know what it is. I so without saying again, because I don't want to the problem, even me having tried to stay away from it, like I still went in knowing enough to know that I knew too much about it. So I don't want to say anything that will do that to you, because I do think it's a perfectly fine movie, and I think there's aspects of the filmmaking here that's great. It is, whether it was intentional or not, it's a very what is the word I'm looking for? It is a movie that feels very much like it is directly speaking, I think, to a certain segment of the population that likes to grip onto things in movies.

Okay, so there's a lot of whether it's like images or particular scenes that you know are kind of meant to elicit gaps in the audience, and you know, it's the kind of movie where if you saw it in a theater, half the audience would be laughing, half the audience would be disgusted, half the audience would be walking out, half would be rolling their eyes. I know that was more than half, so turning half into a order. But it's very like I think this is something was true in Promising Young Woman too, that Emerald Fanelle, like she's I think about our age. She grew up very wealthy, very educated. She's an actress.

I think she's very cool and understand has a really good ear to know what is going to appeal, like how to kind of tickle a viewer in a certain way. Like Promising Young Woman, a lot of the music choices, a lot of the costume choices, Like there's things about it visually that feel very like just that this is somebody who I think generationally and culturally has a really good ear for what is going to be memorable, not necessarily what's going to be great, but what is going to connect with an audience, which I respect. I think I see I see those wheal spinnings, so I don't connect to it that much. And I felt the same way and Promising Young Woman, But like, I can't deny that she is trying to think of who she kind of there's there's somebody she reminds me of, and I can't quite put my finger on it.

But just a direct a filmmaker who who knows how to get people talking about her movies, and that's that's a great thing. I don't necessarily need to talk about them because everybody else has already talked about them. Huh. So to me it sounds and I don't want to put words in your mouth a bit calculated, I think. So.

Yes, yes, I'm super jazzed about that, but like I'm still I'm still into it. Yeah, why not? Yes, I have a few more oscary ones. Did you watch anything in prep for the season. I don't think I've seen anything, so I think you should just go for it.

Okay, So I have let's see, uh an International Best Picture nominee. Actually I have two of those on here, look at me. I'm so fancy and one of them it also has a Mike nomination, I believe. And this is Society of the Snow, which is on Netflix. It is the easiest way of saying it is.

It is the another telling of a live if you saw a live back in the nineties. Yeah, is this the Is it a period movie? No? Yeah, it is? It is a I believe it is.

I don't know what. I think. It's Spain's Entry. Yeah, okay, I do. You said the name and I was like, how are there so many movies I've never heard of?

But I do know what this is. It's yeah, it's alive, and I have so I grew My brother's favorite movie growing up was You Too. It was This Alive and What About Bob? So I watched both of those movies a lot like I Alive is very much in my bones. I think about like the joke my mother used to say it no matter what anytime I went on she or I went on a plane, she would always either say to me or slip it in my bag some chocolate, because in Alive they eat chocolate and red wine and then they went out of it.

So like that's how much in the bone, in my bones Alive is And this is, you know, the same story. It is the and it's an incredible story, an absolutely incredible true story of a plane crash and being stuck in the Andes Mountains for I think it's like about three months in total. It's this is a good telling of it. It took me a little bit to get into. I think this is true of a lot of movies like this, of movies there's I think there is a reason why on I know, Survivor, for example, the TV show had had said like early on in its run people ask, are you ever gonna do like a wintry like a somewhere instead of like you're always on a tropical island.

Would you ever do Survivor in winter in the snow somewhere? And they said, well, no, because people can't wear bikinis. And it's also really hard to tell people a part at that point. And that was a little bit of my problem with this movie was just all of these young men, they all kind of look the same to me because they are all just young men of the same age, and they're covered in snow and parkas, and I could not remember who was who. That gets better as it goes, just because you start to pick out who's who a little more so.

I mean, it didn't fully hit me maybe the way it could have. But I also did watch it in three settings because it's very long. I just didn't have the time. But it's good. It's it's very well told.

It it does somethings very nice. I think it is very respectful, and I'm guessing this was very much done in with the survivors and very respectful of their stories. And you know it, it's a good to if you like these kinds of stories, then it's definitely worth watch. Yeah, I tend to get very disturbed by that kind of story, so I don't usually Yeah, it's I mean, then this was correct, Like if you did you ever see Alive? Yeah, yeah, I've seen it a couple of times.

It's great. It's a great story. It's just and I've always thought that, like I love the story and the characters and the mechanics, but I don't. I don't like but what it does because I know that it's real life. But like for me, that's I don't eat animals, so like eating people is like really breaks my brain.

But see, I don't know. I feel like I do eat animals, and I feel bad about it. I feel like I would feel less bad about eating people if I had to. But I feel like it's like this molecular thing for me at this point, like just the idea of flesh is just so foreign and scary, and then to have it be like one for one flesh on my bones, I'm like, oh god, no, I can't handle well it is and this movie handles it very well, and I think Alive did too, because the reality of it was it was a incredibly difficult decision for the Survivors to make They nobody wanted to do that, and some actively refused, and we're dying and we're a lot of them eventually, like really gave in very reluctantly, and the movie does doc lord like and Alive didn't either, Like they were both I think very cautious about how to show that, because these men are still a lot and it wasn't all the sibers from that, And I don't ever think that like the point of those movies is to be like pro cannibalism, right, it's obviously like a testament to the enduring human spirit and stuff like that.

Yeah, on that note, another movie about the enduring human spirit. I kid, So I did something I haven't done a long time. I went to a movie theater by myself to watch a movie. WHOA Yeah, I went. There's a cute little independent film house near me called the Jacob Burns Film Center, and there was a I had like a random free day where I'm like, you know what this is.

Here's a director who I love, who doesn't make movies often, who has a movie in theaters, and it seems like one of those movies that you should go and immerse yourself in because it's heavy matter. And I also I know it's gonna have a great score and I kind of want to experience that score and in with the correct way. So I took like, you know, a nice lazy Sunday afternoon and I went to see Jonathan Glazers the Zone of Interest. Oh okay, And I mean, I that's I loved it. And realize how awful that makes me sound as a human being.

Because this is for those who don't know. This is a story of the U Nazie h Men in power or the or Rudolph has I guess and his family who live just outside of Auschwitz, and it is their story. And yet right behind them are clouds of smoke coming from Aschwitz. And I mean, I love under the skin, I love birth. I still have not seen sexy beasts, Whichina was crazy, but I just oh so good.

Yeah, I'm sure it is. I just have not like I'm like saving it. It's like one of those things I do sometimes when I don't want to have like consumed all of an artist. I love work, like I always want there to be something for me to still watch. But this is, I think, and it's on par with the other two.

Certainly it's it's it's a very I think it's one of those things where like, only he could make this movie. I read the book it was based on, and because I knew it was very different, and it's really interesting how he adapted it, which is to say he does not adopt adapt the story at all. It is very much just the idea of the family living on the other side of Auschwitz and what that felt like and smelled like, and and how you could get used to it and never think about it until a stranger comes in or a relative comes in and says, and without saying it makes you realize what you're living amongst and supporting. But then you you're making the choice of maybe you're okay with that. And it's terrific without ever being bombastic.

The sound is I laughed on OSCAR announcement morning because I was watching the nominations like I had them on mute, but I was watching them and I see like best Sound Design or best sound Best sound I think is what they call it now because they combine the categories and it's like the things that come up are all like mission not mission yeah, mission impossible. Like usually it's those kinds of movies, and then I see the zone of interest and I'm just thinking in my head, how on Oscar Night, how they sometimes do like montages of the sound nominees and like you're gonna have a plane flying, and you're gonna have a monster, and you're gonna have an action scene and then you're gonna have screams from you know, a gaest chamber.

Like it's very that without punching you about it, because the whole idea is that you are watching this family and growing comfortable with it, and it's it's horrific. It's something I'd love to watch again. I highly recommend it, but I also say that with a lot of weight because it is a very complicated way of telling this. And I think there's always the thing that comes up every couple of years of like, oh, we don't need another holocoustom movie, we don't need another World War two movie, And you can say that if they're not doing anything different, and this is doing something very different and giving another way of remembering how horrific this is and how it is not confined to nineteen forty that this is there are This is very much something that we need to remember is always how it feels.

So I recommend that I have I have three more of the oscar Ese ones. These ones are ones that have multiple nominees Alexander payin'es the holdovers. Are you an Alexander Payne fan? Where do you find almost? I'm I know this name election sideways the descend I mean, I like election.

I love Election. Yeah. Oh, this is the Paul Giamati movie. I think the place where I'm currently at is. I don't actually know the names for anything, but I know like either the basic plot who's in them, or the Okay, so I will describe everything from here on out that way.

No, that's okay. But but yeah, fully, I know fully what this is. I have been curious about it. It's on my queue because the plot is interesting. I believed it's on Peacock.

I think, yeah, yeah, we have we actually still have Peacocks. Yeah, so I knew I was planning to watch it. H Yeah, it's it's good. I think it's very I would say it's very good. I don't think it's great.

I think the performances are are great. I think all three of the main characters are done well. Paul Giamatti is is very good at this kind of thing. I always like Paulogy Yeah, and he's this is a very like this is the role you want to see Paulo Gioi in as somebody that's kind of like sad sack but also kind of a jerk like in a lot of ways. And he's he's just he's great at that, and he's somebody you watch and you just like that.

It's nice to believe he's a human. So he's very good. The kid Dominic Sass is great and Dave and Joy Randolph will rip your heart out. She's fantastic. Uh, this is good.

It's funny. I chuckled a lot. It's you know, I again, best movie of the year. No, but it's it's very good, and it will I think it's it's a recommend it's it's a perfectly good movie. I would say.

Yeah. The next one is the two Oscar nominations. The Uh, this is the Annett Metting swimming movie. Does that help? Okay?

Yeah it does. No. Do you know the name of it? Gonna a game? Okay?

It is nyad. Oh. I would have never gotten there. I couldn't know. Maybe I could have I could have gotten in there uh Sonett Betting and Jodie Foster both nominated, And this was the one that when I like saw the nominees because I always especially want to watch like all the Best Actress nominees, I'm like and I texted my friend, I'm like, damn it, now we have to watch NYAD.

And then I watched it. I AD and I'm like, man, now it's really great. I really enjoyed it. I think you might too. Yeah, I look, hear me out.

I didn't. I don't think I knew that this was based on like a real thing. I don't know how I didn't know that looking at the way it's been marketing. But I think there's some apparently there's a lot behind it of like her as a swimmer. People.

A lot of people have said, like, oh, her records weren't clean, like she might not have actually done this thing, but even like the gist of it happened and she was a real I think she still love is a real person. It is a lesbian, which is interesting, and the movie I think the movie plays not plays with that, but like gives us that and gives us gay. Jodie Foster as gay in a way that's really great and fun to Jody Foster in this movie is so fun to watch because it just feels like she is having a good time acting and it's I was I was really shocked by how much I enjoyed it. I Jodie Foster, And that's kind of the only reason I even knew it existed, because I was looking at her IMDb because of the Night Country yep, and I was like, what else is she doing?

And I saw this and I was like, it's a Netflix thing though, so like I write, it's a netflixit is. Yeah, me and Netflix we're not really on speaking terms. So I think that's why I didn't know much about it. Yeah, I would nice to know that it's that you enjoyed it, because I like this is is Would you classify this as like a sports movie completely? You know, you know, I don't like sports, but love sports movie.

This is such a sports movie because it is her, so you know, it's her in her sixties decides. You know, she had tried to do it when she was young, swimming from Cube of Florida or vice versa, and uh, you know she's she's gonna do it, by golly, and she needs a team around her as if she needs her coach and she needs the boatsman and she needs the medic and like everybody is so there and it's the movie that does the thing that like at the end of the movie they show you the real people and you're like, yeah, this movie it's it's it knows what it's doing and you and I know that, like, yeah, there's a formula. Yeah, I know like how it's gonna go. Like, but that could feel really good. And you're doing that with two with two great actresses who are in their sixties I guess, playing women in their sixties who look like women in their sixties, and it's it's fun.

Their friendship is so great. I don't know this. This is really refreshing as a movie. All right, adding it to the queue, all right, now the last one in my oscar list. Okay, this is the one where Bradley Cooper plays uh famous you know, yeah, I know this.

What's the title? I don't know, Yeah, damn it. It's just what might you call somebody who conducts the conductor? Another word for conductor? I know this is maestro?

Oh yeah yeah. Also nominated for a bunch of stuff. I think also because I'm not on Twitter anymore. I have no idea what's going on. This is the villain of Oscar season oddly enough, Yeah, so so I know this.

Can I tell you why? I know it? Of course, when the trailer came out, people were super upset that he chose to use a prosthetic that made him not really look like the guy in real life anymore, and he just wanted to do a prosthetic. And also Bradley Cooper directed this right, oh yes, and co wrote it. Oh, co wrote it too.

I don't know that I knew that. So, like all that stuff made me kind of go, like, I don't know if this is for me. It is definitely the epitome of a movie that is made knowing it's gonna get Oscars or Oscar nominations at the very least exhausting. It is at the same time it's it is, it's okay, it's okay to go. I guess like I'm watching this movie like with that exact feeling of like, oh, here are your Oscar, Like here you go, Bradley, maybe this is the one that gets it for you.

And I know I'm not the only one that feels that way, because the general consensus is he is not winning anything for this movie, and part of it is everybody knows how much he wants it, and they're turned off by that. And this is a movement very much like feel so much of that. But I'm saying that, and I have to concede. It's it's a good movie. He's good.

Carrie Mulligan's always great. She's great in this. I kind of hate her and like I can't and I know, again I'm not the first one to say this. Her character is really a I would not want to be friends with this woman because I don't want to hear her talk. And this isn't like a oh I hate her voice type thing like no, no, no, Like this is this is the era of these fast talking women, and it's just kind of exhausting to actually watch and think, I don't you're you're witty.

Ripperte is not fun to me, But she's good at it. Like they're doing what they're supposed to be doing for these roles and for these parts. The music stuff is very good. I like this music, so I enjoy that aspect of the storytelling it does have. I didn't because I didn't know enough about it going in, so it does go into like cancer hospice stuff, which I wasn't necessarily like, oh great, this is where I want to start my morning.

Yeah. But even all that aside, like it's it's a good movie. If you have any interest whatsoever in the subject matter, then definitely watch it. If you're an Oscar completist, then yes, watch it, because I think you'll walk away saying it's fine. It deserves some of these nominations.

I don't know that Kerry Mulligan deserves actress, just considering some of the women that weren't nominated. But it's it's fine. A lot of my Oscar ends with it's fine. Yeah. That's kind of why I don't bother for the most part anymore, because I usually just end up on like the What I find one of the reasons I try to watch a lot beforehand is that a lot of movies, especially the dramas, what ends up happening is if I don't watch them before the oscars, and I'm watching them so that I can have some steak in the race and know how I feel about what's being nominated.

Makes total sense, But then Oscars happen, and then I you know if I don't, let's say Past Lives, which I've heard great things about, If I don't watch Past Lives before the Oscars happen, I guarantee I'll completely forget about the movie for the rest of my life. And I'm sure it's great. Like that happened last year with Fableman's. I got lucky and unlucky because I had been trying to get watch everything I could before the Oscars, and then I still had Netflix discs, remember those, And my Fableman's Netflix disc came the Monday after the Oscars, and I was like, Oh, do I even have to watch this now? And I did, and I'm like, oh, this is great.

This is a really great movie. Yeah, I'm glad I watched this. No, I totally I do totally get that. And I think if I were interested or had any like Horse and a Race, I would be the same, Like, if I don't watch it now, then it's not gonna be something that's at the front of my mind. So I totally get it, and I did at one point actually try and it did change the way the Oscars watched for me, But then I stopped caring about watching them, and it was like, okay, well then there's no reason.

Yeah. Well and then as soon as you get invested, then you get your heart broken. So there's that too, Like the fact that May December only has one nomination, Like that hurts me. But yeah, all right. So I have other other stuff outside of the oscars.

So let me hear some of what you've got, all right. So I'm trying to figure out where to start. I have some weird ones on here. They don't really follow any type of trends. So I watched a movie from two thousand and seven.

A lot of these are older because I have not been super jazzed about new releases. And that's for a myriad reasons. It's just I'm not I don't know that modern twenty twenties movies are for me. Sure they don't. I don't like the way they look A lot of the times.

There was also the strike and like so there's there's just not a lot out there. So I went in the way back machine to two thousand and seven. I watched a movie and I think I'm saying this name right. I know I do this a lot. Gregor Raki direct, Yes, smiley face.

I don't think I talked about this on this podcast. You you mentioned that you've been watching some gregorracky stuff. You can give specifics, So tell me. I have never seen this, tell me about it. So I had never seen it either, And it is a essentially a stoner comedy starring Anna Faris.

Okay, interesting, I not really my thing at face value, but this was just so charming in a reverent I know, I'm such a such a nerd in your film critic news and it's pretty near film critic press thesis. Yeah, film critic like Groucho Mark glasses and sake notes. I loved it and need I need to watch it again. It was like life changing. It was.

It was joyful and simple and smart and absurdist and just really refreshing. Oh how wonderful, super high recommend nice You want another one? Yeah I do. Okay. So Village of the Damned from nineteen ninety five, Oh boy, yeah, the Christopher Reeve cercy Aaley one.

Okay, tell me this is John Carpet. This is the movie that kind of I wouldn't say ended John Carpenter's it ended his funding for a while. I think he was supposed to make something right after this that was gonna be a big budget and the studio was like, nope, nope, we saw that movie. We're not doing it. What was your impression of this movie?

I ended up rating it two and a half out of five. It was fine. I think it had a lot of stuff that which I was. I was surprised by how much of it worked. The setup worked, the town worked, the characters worked, their interactions worked.

I like creepy, small weird towns, you know, Yeah, But then it was like, all of a sudden, it didn't make sense, like there were connective tissue that that never connected, and it ended up feeling kind of like hollow and half done. Okay, but but I had to give it like that kind of averagey score because there were things that were working. You know. It wasn't total like Drek. I wasn't like this is garbage.

I was more disappointed, I think because I I think I watched it. I remember trying to situate myself for where I was, because I know the last time I watched it, I was at a gym. But I'm trying to figure out, like, at what point would I have been able to watch it either on TV or on my phone at a gym like, so I think I'm going back like fifteen years and I remember thinking this is a this is atrocious. But I have not gone back and with brighter eyes given in a rewatch. Maybe at some point in life I will if you're not trumping at the bit to do it.

I don't know. I don't know that it's worth it, but like, I was surprised by how much I didn't dislike it, which is fun. Yeah, on the Evil Children, you got one? I do on I think I watched this on Amazon. I think it's one of those MGM plus on Amazon, which I'm not.

No. MGM plus is not gonna be a thing, but this is. I pulled it up because I like anything movie that's good about Killer Kids. And then I was pleasantly surprised to see it was directed by Roxane Benjamin, who's somebody I I like and I want to see her continue in her career. This is there's something wrong with the Children.

Heading over to the IMDb, mistes, take a look. It's Matthew Sarrenson from that's not his name, that's I don't know the actress name, but it's the kid from Friday Night Lights who's in a lot of Mike flannag and stuff. Yep, I know this this cover. Yes, I've skipped past it a couple of times. What say you?

My friend it? So it's a good setup. It's these two couples who are going go like out to the woods together. One of them. One of the couple says kids, the other one doesn't, and the kids are acting weird, but only to one guy.

And the first like forty five minutes, I was really into it. I was so excited, like, ooh, well, I like what this is doing. It's it's saying a lot of things, it's exploring different things. I haven't quite seen this relationship in a movie before. I haven't seen this.

And then you figure out what the evil is, what the monster is, what's going on, and it just it wasn't bad. It just to me just went in such a different turn from where it was going that it felt like a different movie. And I was like, all of the stuff you built up about paranoid and you know about kids and the fear of kids, and maybe you don't want to have kids, or maybe it's because you're afraid of yourself and you're afraid of what you're going to pass on to them. All of that was so rich and then it's just kind of a monster chase movie that was fine, but it just didn't go together for me. So I was I was disappointed because I thought there was more that I could have gotten out of this, but so I didn't really understand of the choice in that basic storytelling.

So it's not it's not a total loss, but it's hard to like really recommend because I I don't know, maybe others will be like like where it goes. It just was such a sharp turn for me that it didn't it didn't work overall. I get that. Yeah, it looks like it has a five out of ten on IMDb, which with a female director that not to put too fine a point on it, that can often mean that nine point nine. Anyone else, Yeah, I'll actually like, yeah, there's a lot of my favorite movies are are four point eight.

It's on IMDb. But hearing that it makes me think maybe it's a little justified. It's tough because it's like, there's it's a well made film. The acting is good, it looks good. Even the monster design that you eventually see is cool.

It's just it's like the plot I just didn't like. It was like actual screenplay decisions that just did not work for me. So yeah, uh, do you have one that worked or didn't work for you? I had one that worked quite well for me. I was complaining about newer movies.

But here's a twenty twenty three one that I enjoyed. It is Eileen oh Way, I'm jealous. I haven't watched this. It's not streaming yet anywhere for Freeze. I think we rented this is now going back to early January, so my memory doesn't Oh January sixth, so I celebrated the anniversary of the direction.

It was amazing. It really really like exploitative, but like in the best way. It was absurd and heightened and just Anne Hathaway was just ridiculous. That was great. I can't wait.

I love the book. I love that writer, and I know she co wrote the screenplay, and I know the movie apparently takes some big turns from this from the book, which I'm really excited to see. So that all of that is very exciting for me. I look forward to watching it. I think you'll I think you'll enjoy it.

You might not be like you watch a lot of you know, lifetime stuff. I don't think you're going to be phased by it. I don't usually watch stuff that's that, and I mean this with love trashy. So I was like delighted by it and it was very novel to me. Oh the world we could show you if you just listened to me, James Barb, I know, I know.

It's honestly, usually it's just a little bit of quality issue on some of those. Okay, well, on that note, this was not lifetime, but it was to be in to Be Originals Christine Makepeace. Have you watched to Be Originals? I haven't, but I know that they exist. They exist, and they're kind of wonderful because they're the ones I've seen have been either like almost asylum horror movies or lifetime movies, but not because there to be.

They can also be like, they can curse a little more, they can show more. This just felt exactly like a lifetime movie. I was shocked that it was not a lifetime movie. This was a recommend from our dear friends James and Angelah. This is killer coworker.

Oh boy, but title really tells you something. Well, and where do you like if I told you I watched a movie called Killer Coworker. Where do you think it would be set? I think my first instinct was office, but I would hope it would be more like a retail thing. I agree that that was my biggest letdowns, Like you want that instead?

This is actually at a health and wellness spa. Oh Like, it just feels like, if you're gonna do that, then have a different title. I think. I just I thought it would all right, that's fine, but it's fine. Yeah, this is so terrible, it's hilarious.

It's a woman has brought in, like a you know, NBA business woman is brought in to help get this spa up to par, and everybody is so hostile to everybody, and nobody actually goes to the spa. Like the entire movie, there's one customer for most of it, and it's just and and then like your main your lead is just making the worst decisions she could possibly make. And uh, I enjoyed the hell out of it. So Killer Coworker, I recommend, Wow, okay, all right, to orig that's right, that's funny. I don't think I'm ever gonna watch that.

I probably will not, but I did watch other movies you recommended, Oh fun, like what you okay? So, yes, I have a pair of them that you spoke highly of. Both of them. They one was No one was Amazon, one was Hulu. And they are totally very different, I would say, but they are both wonderful.

So one of them was Carter Smith's The Passenger. I watched a Carter Smith movie. That was the next movie I was gonna mention, are you in my head? Maybe that's so cool? So Zach told me The Passenger was probably his favorite movie of last year.

Wow, it's isn't Isn't that something? It has really sat with me. I liked it when I watched it. I was into it. I was surprised by it.

I was moved by it. And it's been a week and I keep going back to it in my head and thinking it through and thinking more of what he both him and the screenwriter, what was being done there is something I have not really seen in a movie of just how it's kind of challenging you as to who are you rooting for, like who do you believe? Who do you Is this guy a psychopath or is he actually kind of an angel like? And and the fact that the ultimate story is about this young man's guilt over this thing that he did. The way it is, it handles that and engages with that and is like very kind to that.

I was. I loved it. M M. I totally agree. So have you seen Swallowed?

Not yet? Not yet, But it's actually find out where one knows it. It's not the same dynamic, but to me, there are echoes of what's happening in Passengers happening and Swallowed nice and and I think I think you would probably like it. I'm sure I would. I for me, I actually like Swallowed more than I like interesting this.

But Kyle Gallner is just so good, my god that there's a part of me that's mad that he doesn't have a bigger career, But there's also a part of me that is glad because it means he does a lot of genre movies yep, and he keeps you know. It's it's kind of like in its own way. I think of a lot of female actors who will say, well, ultimately Horrors, where I get to actually be the lead and get to do more interesting parts and have more dynamic things to do. In a way, it's kind of like Kyle Golner has kind of found that where he's He is so different in this movie, and I know people say, like, oh, he plays a good dirt bag. I think this is the first time I've seen him kind of in that side, because usually he's like sweet, puppy dog eyed Kyle Golner.

But no matter what he does, he's really good and a really good scene partner too, which is something I don't think he gets enough credit for. He's really quite phenomenal, and I think what's cool is he seems to really enjoy these kind of roles in movies, and that's that's fun for me as a person who likes watching it. So it's fun to have somebody who's clearly really into it and stuff. I want to rewatch that movie. So it was really phenomenal.

It is, yes, the one. Wait you said you watched another Carter Smith movie? What was? I watched a Carter Smith And I think, if memory serves, this was one of those Hulu into the Dark. Yeah, that's what that was called.

It was. It's Midnight Kiss. Okay. It's directed by Carter Smith, so basically I think it's the New Year's one. Yeah, and it takes place in Palm Springs, which which I thought was like fun and I love Carter, so I wanted to watch it.

And I know that those Into the Darks and that's why I've never really followed through on them. I know they have varying degrees of quality. Sure, this was good, not great. I don't think it really went far enough in any direction. But then when you kind of step back and look at what it was made to be, maybe that's all it needed to do, right, right, Yeah, the stakes are lower.

Yeah, it's only eighty nine minutes, So then what's the what's the inverse of that? Oh that it's stuffed and over like full and too much shouldn't doesn't. So I guess maybe it was fine, but I was expecting something a lot more affecting. I think, Yeah, I haven't watched any great Into the Darks. I've watched something that I thought were good, and I've I've kind of only watched the ones that I have been seen described as being the good ones.

So I haven't seen any duds. But that's because I really haven't watched the whole thing. The other movie that you recommended an Hulu I just laughed just thinking about it because it was so cute that slatherhouse. Wasn't it ridiculous? It was so ridiculous in the best way.

We like puppets, you and I like a puppet's gonna get me a lot a you know, an animal doing things it shouldn't be able to do is gonna always entertain me. And this sloth was just the best. She was so great, her and her little bikini, her drinking beer, her sunbathing, her taking selfies and ash taking them. It was It hit the perfect tone for what it was trying to do. And it really like, with such an absurd like concept, it really could have fallen apart in like a bad way.

But this this did it. It knew what it was doing, It stuck with it, and it had heart too like it. It actively gave its characters a growth trajectory and ended on a note that was very like, oh we learned something here. I loved it. It's a kid time.

It made a lot of good choices. Yes, yes it did. I have a weird one. I want to hear weird. Okay, I do not know why I watched this movie.

Oh that's not true. Because I decided to try to bump Val Kilmer up my list this sum year Okay, So this is from twenty eleven. It is directed by Francis Ford Coppola. This is I know this, This is the is in this? Yes, it's Twist TwixT.

That's it. It's got I think it's got a slightly different name too. So my review of this movie is this might be a masterpiece. I'm gonna watch it again in a year and I'll let you know. So as I thought about it, I think it might be a masterpiece.

Is there this is one that I think got like edited like crazy right? Or was it Coppola wanted was going to make it like three hours, and then studio backed out of financing, so we kind of financed it himself so we can make the movie he wanted. It was. There's some weird stuff behind it, and I don't know if the version that's out there is the version he wanted to make and couldn't like and that's where he had de funded himself, or if it was that it was cut. I can't remember.

So there's definitely two versions. There's TwixT, which I believe is what I want. That is the one I watched, And then there is U Betwixt now in Sunrise, which is the new cut, I guess, and that there apparently isn't too much extra. I just think maybe it's it's composed in a way that he's happier about. Apparently it's a lot to do with the death of his own child.

Okay, so it's about like child loss and feeling like you can't do anything about it. Just this like an aptitude this, but like it's really so. I think something that might have thrown a lot of people off is the way it looks. I don't want to say that it looks bad, but it definitely looks weird. It's a very strange palette.

Definitely, yes, And I think in twenty eleven, if I had seen this, I would have been like, I don't like the way this looks. This looks bad. But now, because things look so different and often look very muddy, it looks very similar to themselves than anything that looks different is kind of exciting now, I think. So now it's kind of like, oh, this is doing something. It looks this way for a reason.

It's not just budget or like ability. He made choices, and I think I think just the copoliness of it, like, even if it's not the great the greatest the fact that it was deliberate and he made choices, Yeah, was like exciting. I guess, yeah. No, I think that's valid because I think he's he's somebody who doesn't have to make movies. He's very rich, cue his finyards, he has oscars.

There is a good point he doesn't need to prove anything. So I think when he decides to make films, uh, And there's even a part of it that like not to say he's out of touch, but he is of a different era and age that he's not gonna I don't think he's, you know, gonna win another Oscar in his lifetime. I don't think he's going to make that movie that hits with the general public. Like he's not. Like with the Waistecoorsese kept up regularly, I don't think Copola did.

But yet he every now and then says, I have a story I want to tell. I want to make a movie. And good for him to be able to do it on his own terms and put out what he wants to. There's something very admirable about that, even if it's not necessarily going to connect the way we'd expect it to, Like it's that it's theirs. It's kind of, you know, good for him, and you have seen it.

I did. I barely remember anything about it. I know I watched it. I remember watching it in my old apartment, so but like my old apartment when I first moved in, So we're going back a long ways. Yeah.

I if anybody's been interested to check it out, I recommend it because I really do think it might play different in twenty twenty four than it did when it was released. Very interesting. Let's see I have a movie that would play differently. I watched this was on twob Like, I'm kind of I think I've seen every killer doll movie ever made, so if I see anything that is vaguely different, found one from eighty four I think called The Power. Hmm, it's a it's American.

I think it's a Mexic. I think it's Mexican like an Aztec. It's not a killer doll movie. I want to be very clear on that. But it is a amulet that possesses people type movie that has some cool and not necessarily great but kind of interesting, you know, rubber monster things going on.

This wasn't very good. This was kind of an absolute mass you could tell stuff got cut left and right, and the narrative does not line up at all. But it felt like one of those like, oh yeah, they don't make them like this anymore for a lot of good reasons, but also kind of refreshing to see. So if you're looking for some a horror movie that you maybe had not seen, this one was new to me. Nineteen eighty four is the Power.

So I'm looking it over on the IMDb. Would you classify this as like a haunted object movie? Yes? Yeah, yeah, so I have as a haunted object completest. I think I'm I have to watch us.

I think you will find it of interest. It is. You can see what I'm saying, and it's not good. Yes, it does not line things up correctly. I don't understand.

The first twenty minutes of that movie make no sense at all, and it jumps around characters so much that in a way that you don't understand why they didn't just pick one character to have this movie be about. But that being said, it's weird, it does some things I hadn't seen, has a great ending, so I don't give it a go all right, making a note of it, yeah, but do not give a go. I don't know if you watch this. I feel like a lot of people were, because it was very on trend on shutter it's a wonderful knife. I didn't.

I didn't enjoy it. No, it's not good. Yeah, a lot of people did, and like that's great. I'm super glad, but I didn't connect with it in any way. Sam, Yeah, yeah, what else you got?

I have two that I'm gonna lump together because I didn't really like either of them, and they're both from twenty twenty three. One is Hypnot, which is a Robert Rodriguez movie with Ben Affleck in it. Okay, I believe these words, but the fact that it is weird, Yeah, so it's it's it's really bad. That poster is awful. A detective becomes entangled in a mystery involving his missing daughter in a secret government program.

Blah blah, it's very boring. And then the other one is a movie called Lord of Misrule o K twenty twenty three, and Tuppence Middleton is in it. I left that name. I'm sorry. I love her name.

When the daughter of the town's new priest goes missing during the harvest festival, I mean, come on It's like all of this sounds yours to fumble. Yeah, yeah, I'm into it, and I'm into it. Where does it go wrong? It just didn't nothing connected and it didn't work. There was it didn't really do anything.

I'm similar to Village of the Damned or whatever I think it's called. If you have this great setup and then you're like, I'm not gonna do anything with this. Yeah, that's a shit bomber. But I wanted to love it. Yeah, And I'm looking at that poster.

It's very midstomr. It's very folk horr, and like I would watch this if I didn't know anything about it, Like, oh my god, the trailer is playing and there's like a festival fall festival, and people are in costumes and Wickerman masks and you're telling me no, So I just I mean maybe for you. But like the thing when when I see that being promised, I'm expecting something and then I didn't. I didn't get any of it, and it was like prom uh, so I'll cheer us up. A movie that I saw the title and I saw a sprinkling of people saying things about it, and it tells you somethings you're gonna get and then it gives you so much more.

Christine, mm hmm, you have criterion right now? Correct? I do? I do? And have you yet watched The Cat?

No, I haven't, but I've strolled by it a couple of times to watch the cat. This is the cat is an alien. I think the cat is sometimes a puppet and sometimes a cat and can do. There is a about a ten minute scene where there's a doggie and he's a big mastiff and he's a good doggie, but he's like his job is to attack this cat that he thinks is bad and he is this epic junkyard battle between the cat and dog. There is stop motion involved.

I have paused in screenshot and the eighties magical. This movie is bunkers. There is you know, it's kind of thing where lite people fly, there's lasers, there's stuff going on. It is everything and it's so's any it's the guy who did Ricky, Oh the story of Ricky? Which have you seen that?

You know? Like, yeah, imagine that but with a cat. So yeah, all right, uh huh, all I need to hear exactly did you see Night Swim? Probably not? No, I did not.

I heard you said it was no. I think we talked about it. You said it was not good at all. Okay, I'll skip over. Okay, it's disappointing to hear because I mean killer Pool?

Why not? I know it was confusing, like I don't know many movies do this? Why movie say this? Who am I to say this? But if you have a killer Pool movie, I shouldn't be confused.

What more do you need? It's a killer Pool movie. Yeah, so that was a bit of a bummer. Did I talk about Suitable Flesh? Then?

I don't remember if you did. All right, well, I saw. I finally watched Suitable Flesh, which is Heather Graham directed by Joe Lynch. I was super excited for it. I actually kind of really want you to see it, So okay, talk about it.

I liked it, but something about it didn't work for me, and I need someone to tell me what. Okay, I know. So an OTLP just talked about it on their show. And one because I remember when I saw, I didn't even realize it was Joe Lynch, who I like and who I think you used to work at the video store i'd go to as a kid. But the one thing that turned me off was when I guess there's a little bit of a cthulhuism in there.

I just don't care about, like Cthulhu and it Lovecraft is never going to make me watch something and when it comes up in movies, it is never going to make me more interested in the movie because I just don't not my thing. So that made me a little bit less of like, i'll watch it today too, like ill, baby, I'll watch it, but okay, I'll for you, I'll watch it. Yeah, I will say. Though with that being said, there are some like pretty good Stuart Gordon vibes. Okay, I'll take that, like there are things in it in ways that things are framed and filmed and presented that I'm like, oh, this feels like this feels like Gordon, but like it wasn't enough for me, and I want somebody to tell me what.

Okay, Okay, I'll get to it. I will get to it before the next time we meet. And I'll watch the cat. Yes you will, yes, yes, if I've done one thing right today. Okay.

Another horror ish movie I watched on Criteria that also maybe involves outer space, maybe a wolf's hohle oh wolf Wolf is in Wolf's Hole. For some reason, when I say that out loud, I worry it doesn't sound like those words. Uh, do you know anything about this movie? It is a Czechoslovakian movie from I think the late eighties. Female director, female writer director.

This is you should just watch It is probably the best thing I could say, but it is very odd. I guess the director is fairly well known. It is like going into it. I at first I assumed, oh, it's a like sort of Lord of the Flies ish. A bunch of kids are up skiing like they're they've all been recruited.

They don't know why, but they're like a bunch of teenagers to gather at a ski lodge being led by these very unusual teachers. And then things started happening, and I assumed it was either a slasher or like some kind of commentary on slasher, because the way it's described, even in Criterion is very like, oh that it's in exploring the American movie. And I'm like, I don't, okay whatever this means, and I still don't fully understand, like it's definitely one that I have to go back to, but I really dug it's I don't. I think there's also things politically happening that I don't necessarily get because I, you know, am not familiar with what this director may have been kind of talking about in the era.

But it's very interesting. It is. It is not a horror movie. I do want to say that because I think other people may go into it thinking that and that's not what you're getting. But it is definitely something that is playing off of sort of that those tropes as a movie that's interesting and it has.

I loved the ending so much, and I thought it was very I would I never saw it going where it went and ultimately had a lot to say in a way that was very unusual. So it's a it's a big recommend, but it's hard to really talk about because it's a very weird b I don't know how much I got and see. I would not want to make you think anything watching it, because I think it's best experience fairly fresh. Oh interesting, all right, all right, yeah, I have a critter on watch yes babies first, Fritz Lang. I know, I watched Ministry of Fear, which I have still not watched.

It's on my key. It was really great, nice, it was very like, I don't know, it was really weird. I guess, Hello, I'm showing up very late to this, But how exciting that you get to discover all of that. I only watched m for the first time last year, and I could not get over how good it was. I know, this was, this is just really great.

Any of my expectations that I had of watching a movie from this time period, which I will say is mostly molded by the fact that I've seen a lot of hitchcock from this time period, it was. It blew my expectations out of the water. It was. It was a lot of fun. Oh wonderful.

Yeah, uh, here's a Criterion I know that you've watched, not like made for Criterion, but it's on that channel and both Brandon and I had never seen it. I think you're a fan of this one, the Grifters. Yes, yeah, I love the It's great, so good, it's it's so funny. Yeah, I think that was something I didn't know that i'd be getting, but it is very funny. You did a lot of a net betting without realizing I did.

Yes, Yes, I think after I watched because Grifters was like, so we have a trial membership to Criterion, So I me, whenever I get anything for free, I'm like looking it until I can't. And that was the one that I think both of us wanted to watch. So I just made a point, and I think it might have been going off Criterion. So I was excited to do it. And it's it's very good.

They're all great. I mean, she's fabulous in it, Angelica Houston's great, so good. Yeah, yeah, everybody's great. Everybody looks good. Everybody's like like hot and sweat on the move, and like, yeah, it's and it's really a good story and well acted.

I think it's great. Yeah, and it I what it the way it h kind of like some of it's more like risque themes or some of it's more like you know, Oedipole stuff. I guess like the way it does that is all brilliant. I think, like because some of it it says, some of it it doesn't, and it's it's there and it's really good stuff. Yeah.

I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, yeah, do you have more? I have a few more Criterion. I don't think I have any more. Cry was this on credit run?

So this is oh boy, I'm really showing my ass today. Babies first Ken Russell. No, that can't be true. That can't be true for you, Tommy. You've seen Tommy, Yes, that was that was baby's first Ken Russell.

I saw Tommy when I was like ten. That was definitely I thought true Tommy when I was really young. And I've seen parts of other stuff. But let's just say this is the first Ken Russell that I've sat down as an adult. I know, I'm so sorry.

I know Devils exists, I really do, and that I chose to watch, of all things gothic, I have no problem with that. It's I was just talking about gothic because I also watched a Ken Russell movie on criteria, not Gothic. But what did you want? I watched The Boyfriend. Ah, I really I'm really behind on life.

No, no you're not. Here's what I love is how different those two movies are, and how different those movies are. The Devils. Yeah, so I didn't know what to expect with Gothic. I mean, I get what it is.

It's like a Mary Shelley thing. Like I knew going in that is that it is a very strange movie. I think I liked it. But that being said, I know kind of I've read more about Ken Russell movies than I've ever seen them. I know kind of what he does.

I know his vibe, I know his influences, I know what he was doing. Now having seen that with this, with that knowledge, it makes me excited to watch other stuff because I just don't think. I think this didn't work for me. It's not wasn't him. It was this story specifically, this didn't work.

I watched Gothic probably about fifteen years ago from one of those Mill Creek discs. Interesting. Yeah, I guess for a while it just didn't. It was up in the air and pending up there. So I watched a really muddy print of it and I liked it.

But this was again a long time ago, so I don't remember much of it. But yeah, that's that's fascinating that that that that would be your first one. I I so if you don't know Gabriel Burns in it, and so is Julie sam So that that to me is enough young Gabriel Burne and you, Natasha Richardson, that's true. I almost forgot that. And then, like the cover is very evocative.

You know, like a like a demon sitting on top of a lady y'all, you know, sprawled out, And the fact that it's like Mary Shelley and Lord Byron related is going to be a hook for me too. But I don't know. Maybe maybe I shouldn't have gone in with first, with something that I had strong like attachment to, like a Mary Shelley Lord Byron thing, and I should maybe I should have watched Lara of the White Worm first. Yeah, I like Lair of the White Worm. It's again, It's been a while, but I remember enjoying that one.

It's very again. It's actually Lay of the White Worm might be a little tonally similar to Gothic and so ways where it's very like kind of big and gross but also kind of funny and I won't say not taking things seriously, but sort of very like, if memory serves it feels very British. Yeah, the trailer for it made so I didn't know what that movie was about until I watched the trailer maybe on Criterion, and I was like, wait, this is what this movie is. So I had no idea because based on the cover, you wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily guess right right that it's very sexy and sleek. I didn't think it was going to be British too.

He makes a lot of very different but the boyfriend is completely different from all of those. Yeah, I was just looking at the cover to that. Yeah, it's a musical. Abby recommended this one, and I decided to give it a go. It is a like it's it's I guess it's late seventies, I think, and it is set in the twenties and it's just a theater putting on a musical and Twiggy is the stage manager and the lead get sick, so Twiggy has to go on for her and it's just like mad cap farce musical.

Tommy Toon dances like crazy. Twiggy is great in it. She's so adorable and lovable and you can like you could see where like he kind of wanted to build a movie around her and she's it's great. It's a bit long, it's it's like over two hours and I had to watch it in three sittings, I think. But there's some great dancing, like it's it's not life changing, but it's it's kind of cute.

Like I had a really good time with its Yeah, man, that Criterion channel. Yeah, I got three more from there. Oh do it all right? Lynch Oz, which is a documentary just a bunch of different filmmakers talking about David Lynch and his and Wizard of Oz together, which for me is like, oh, this is a good gambo enjoyable. Nothing life shattering, but enjoyable to hear like John Waters and carn Kausama talk about these things.

Yeah, I've been wanting to check it out, But did you enjoy it? Definitely give it a go. One that I was like kind of ah, this is a movie that I don't know that I ever heard of this movie until Yellowjackets and then apparently like everybody was one of those things where it was very like, oh, yeah, of course I should have heard of this movie. So was The Watermelon Woman. Yes, I know I've not seen it, but I do know of it.

Yeah, it's great, it's on Criterion. It is, you know, a scrappy movie. It is very low budget. It's clearly like, you know, a young director with a lot to say and not much money to say it. But it's a wonderful portrait of an era of lesbians in this era, which I definitely weren't seeing anywhere, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

And then the last one on Criterion I watched. I am so curious if you've seen this, and if not, I would love for you to watch it, because I'm really curious what you would think of it. I think it's eighty seven. Also somewhere around there, lor deurn Treat Williams Smooth Talk. No, I have not.

Do you know anything about this? I know of it mostly because of Laura Dern, but I don't know. I've never watched it, so clearly it never it never got me. Eighty five eighty five somewhere around there. Yeah, she's young.

She I think she's like nineteen when she made it, and she's playing much younger. She's playing fifteen. It is based on Joyce Carol Oates, Where are you Going? Where have you been? Mm?

Hm? Which have you read that? It feels like a short story I would have read not in a long time. But but yes, okay, and it is. I don't know.

I I thought this was very good. It's a female director. It is you know, a a teenager in the South who you know wants to go to the mall and flirt with boys, but also is like really doesn't understand what that means, and also doesn't understand her mom, and her mom doesn't understand her. And there's this mysterious figure in town who seems to be following her. It's it's very I don't know, you you should just watch it.

I would really recommend you get this a go. Yeah, so the on IMDb, the little trailer started to auto play it uh huh, and I let it go because I just want, you know, get a vibe. And it looks like it looks phenomenal. It's really good. She's so cute.

I just love it. I was reading like some of the original reviews of it, and Roger Eebert, who really liked it, made a really great point about it, which is Laura durn in this movie at there is you know, within the same scene she could look like she is twelve, and she could look like she is twenty five. And how much that is this character and how much that is like any woman of that or girl of that or young woman of that age, and how that plays in the world, and how I think this movie very much is you know, you and I are both obviously women who like to seek out movies from female directors because a lot of times we say it makes a difference. It makes it diference when a woman is telling a woman story.

And this very much feels very tapped into something. Oh exciting. Yeah, I'd be excited for you to watch it. Yeah, okay, added to the list. All right, so I just have some musicals left.

What else do you have? Let's see, Well, let's talk about something fun. So there is a movie from two thousand and one that I had never heard of. It's called The Forsaken. It wor sacan, It's oh boy, I'm so terrible.

This Jonathan shay Sheck. Yes, we like him, We love him everything. He is an honorary member of the Feminine Critique. He truly is. He's in this he'ble Christine.

Do you know who is in this movie? Who? Simon Rex? More importantly, you probably would not have recognized the name. Oh tell me, uh the The actor's name is Brendan Farr Fair.

Brendan Fair was in a little movie called uh now, no, it depends on how you write it, because remember it had this movie had seventeen different titles. He was in a Christmas Kiss? Oh was he really. Huh. You know, he's got a lot more movie highlighted in my He's the guy that I like to call dry clean only uh Chris, what's his name?

Captain America? Yeah, right, because he looks like Captain America, but like like a sort of oh no, we made too many photocopies of him type thing. And for those of you who don't remember which one a Christmas Kiss was, because I remember and didn't have to look it up at all, that's the one with Elizabeth rom I didn't remember it at all. I had no idea what because it was actually a ninety minute commercial for Cajewelers. So yeah, it's forgiven if you if you mix that up.

Yeah, so this is from this is from two thousand and one. So he's an eighty bitty baby in and kier Smith is in it, and Simon Rex is in it. It's actually like a vampire movie. It has big, near dark energy. I won't say that this movie is great, it's not.

If you if you like two movies from the early two thousands that have the energy that this cover is giving, this floating heads hazy energy, then you have to watch this movie. Understood, right, I'm intrigued. I saw him looking at the director he did Wicked Little Things, which was one of those like movies to be scared of. Yeah, I'm six back. I remember that one being okay, so interesting.

It's it's not great, but I like those weird older like you know, they were hit they were going for our demographic, but I guess I missed them. When they came out. I'm fascinated it and somehow they're they're like really fun today, even though I would not have liked it back in that era. Fully, it's almost better that I didn't see this when I was when I was like eighteen. Yep, I'm with him.

I can't explain it, but it's a thing that's been happening. Yes, I think that one might have been on two B or something. It was super easy to find. Nice. What else you got?

You want to do your musicals? And surprisingly I don't have any musicals. What Christine, my god, did you not have the conversation with your husband that I had with mine, which was he came home from Mark one day and he told me how one of his coworkers was really mad when he said he had never seen the sound of music. And I looked at my husband. My husband Brannon, who you have to understand, is like knows more about musical theater than I do, and I'm pretty good at musical theater.

And I looked at him. It's my My chin was on the ground because I'm like, wait, hang on, I got to reattach my jaw so I can talk to you about this. I'm like, how is it possible that you have never seen the sound of music? And he's just like, I don't know, I've never seen it, but but you love Julie Andrews and you're like your mother loves musicals and it's on every year and it's every substitute teacher at some point in life shows it to their class, Like how have you never And he's just like, he's like, are you mad? I'm like, I'm just upset that I didn't know this, Like I'm like, it just it's this fundamental thing, like I don't know.

It would be as if suddenly he turned to me and said, hey, by the way, you know, I don't actually have a driver's license, Like like that's what it felt like, just this very weird, like a thing I had just always assumed about him was like yeah, of course my cousin's seeing the Sound of Music. No he hasn't. And all this is to say, like I don't love the Sound of Music by any means. It's too long and the kids are kind of annoying, like it's not my favorite musical at all. But I was like, yeah, we have to watch it.

I don't really want to watch it, but yes, we have to sit down and watch this movie because it's weird that you have not seen it so and funny enough. Are you gonna say drag Race? Oh no, yes, because last night that was that was the thing that was weird. What I was gonna say was what was really weird was I watched The Sound of Music the same day that I saw a Zone of Interest, which feels like a double feature that was made by somebody. That's it is quite the pairing, right, Like there's some thematic tie ins because again, like both are not about the Actually it's yes, So that was just a surreal day.

I guess the living a monks, living amoks, yes, and the choices you make or don't make, Yes, that's interesting. Can I ask a follow up, is that did he avoid it or just see pieces of it? Commit? He never he never committed to sitting down and watching it. Yeah, me too.

I've seen huge chunks of it. I know the story, I know that I get the references, but I've never bothered to sit down and watch it from tip to tail. And I'm not going to tell you to do that. But I didn't have to tell my husband to do that. Well, look, I understand I was a little surprised he hadn't seen it.

Yeah, And similarly, he had never seen seventeen seventy six. And I'm like, you're saying, you're a presidential history person, how did you not? So we watched that, which is actually great that as a as a as a film musical. I think when it came out it was probably not like the coolest movie just because it was the seventies, and you have some very much more. You have Tommy being made like your idea of a musical is not that.

But as a musical it is actually much moretten like sexually risque and kind of like much more adult. But this like it deals with slavery, It has songs that are very haunting about it. And as much as that is also one that you would think like teachers would show an history class. It holds up and there's some very good stuff to it. Yeah, I've definitely never seen that one.

I'll forgive you that, Okay, oh, thank you. You know me not that musically inclined. Hmmm, I have something I want to hear it. I don't know, man, I'll talk about the one I liked first. So it's a movie from nineteen eighty seven called The Bedroom Window The Bedroom Window, and it stars Steve Gutenberg and Elizabeth McGovern oh and Isabelle Isabelle Hooper.

I don't know how to say it. I say, I don't ever write. I just like saying it that way. So this I like. I like voyeur movies, but I like I like when it when I like the more like rear window style of voyeur movies, or like I've seen something type of stuff.

So the general conceit of this movie is like this lady is having an affair with Steve Gutenberg and she's so he's not bad in this movie. So she's in a place that she shouldn't have been when she sees like an attempted like murder of a woman. So she doesn't want to like come forward because that would implicate her as like, you know, lying to her husband and having an affair. So Steve Gutenberg says that he saw it, so and then it just goes from there. Okay, I'm looking at do you realize you directed this?

Uh? Probably Curtis Hanson. Who's Curtis Hansen? Oh eight Mile? I was going to say the Hand of the Rochester Cradle and ELI Confidential.

But you have your references. I have mine. No, I've actually never seen eight Mile. For me, it's actually River Wilde at L Confidential. Ah, yes, yes, but yes, I did know that he had directed L Confidential.

So it looks good too, Like it's compelling, it looks really nice. It's it's you know, it's also a bygone error, right, Like there's just something about this kind of movie. The way that we would be a voyeur in the late eighties is different than how we would be a voyeur now. Oh yes, so like it's it's it's interesting to that, and that's a I recommend for me. It was nice, It's very nice.

You got something else? I have two left, so one of them this. I was actually on the projection booth a few weeks ago, and this is a movie I had never heard of it's I would say it's a musical, it's a comedy, it's a lot of things. It is nineteen forty eight, I think or thereabouts. This is a German movie.

Two titles. Depending on the translation, it is either the Original Sin or The Apple fell Ooh, this was delightful. It is very strange. It is sort of a like Adam and Eve story, but it's done like it starts with it's like as if you know, a modern businessman who's ends up checking himself into like a mental facility and then sort of dreams that he is Adam and Eve and so on. But it's very it's a lot of things.

It's very funny, it is very German. It is very much a post war movie, so it's I guess I didn't know this was the thing, but they call it like rubble cinema of you know, Germany post World War two was a you know, a country that was in shambles, and a lot of the films that came out from that dealt with it or didn't deal with it, but it was always there kind of. So this is definitely a part of that, and it's just a really strange film. It's very entertaining. It's very funny and I recommend I have no idea where you can find it because it's not I don't think it's streaming.

It's probably not easy to locate, but if you can, it is well worth it. It sounds interesting. Yeah, I'll have to watch it and listen to that episode. It's episode Whoa. Yeah, I feel very special for that.

It's very cool and weird. All right, well I have This is my last one, or the last one I feel like talking about. It is a movie from nineteen eighty one. It is written and directed by Michael Crichton. This movie is Westworld.

No, it's not west World. I said to my husband. I was his name, Zach. I don't know why I said it that way. I said, there's a Michael Crichton movie I want to watch from the early eighties.

And he said, oh, west Is it about a world in the West? And I was like, no, I don't know why everybody went there because I didn't realized he directed anything else. I thought he only directed Westworld. I know. Isn't this fun and weird?

It's a movie called Looker. Okay, now that I have heard of this movie, Albert Finny Wow. Okay, I loved this movie as much as I didn't like this movie. This movie was so convoluted at times I had to go and read the Wikipedia plot description of it to make sure I didn't anything. Uh it's about a Okay, hold on, let me set the stage for you.

Okay, okay. So Albert Finney is a plastic surgeon. Actually, you know what, I might be obsessed with this movie. So Albert Finney is plastic surgeon and he he does plastic surgery. And he's he's had this like group of young beautiful women come in with lists of what they want done to their face, but like to the millimeter.

So they want like their cheekbones two millimeters higher and their nose three millimeters And he thinks, he thinks this is very weird. He's like, why do these girls keep coming in with lists? So he makes friends with one of the girls. Her name is Susan Day, not in the movie but in Realize. So he finds out essentially that there's basically like this computer program that is able to generate commercials in content without people, but they use the people as like models for it.

Wow. Right, So like basically the girls were being told to alter their face so that would be visually perfect as far as the computers thought. That is to say, the computers think they're visually perfect, and then they can get put into these ads, right, being visually perfect without them fascinating actually being in the ads. But they start killing the girls because like they want to bury the project or something. Again slightly convoluted and like looker refute refers to this gun that shoots like light that can like disorient you and like steal time from you.

It's very strange, fascinating. I this is a very weird movie, and I loved it, but also like I don't know, maybe it might not have been good, but I mean clearly it was interesting. It was I think you're completely right about like like that's what they were they're trying. That was one of the reasons why the actors went on strike because they wanted to basically yeah, yeah, because they were like, well, well, we're going to scan you and then we can use you in perpetuity forever yep, and not pay you and not ask your permission, and yeah, you could be doing a movie for Auschwitz and that you did not consent to. Yeah, you just show up and things so it was really interesting, I think to see that being explored without the infrastructure that modern media has, so like, how do you visualize that In the eighties it was very it was very odd.

So it's a it's a recommend for oddity's sake, but I don't know if you're going to get anything out of it. If you want to, Oh, I'd be curious. Where did you find it? Not it doesn't look like it's streaming anywhere, but I think we could. I think you could buy it on Voodoo okay or Amazon or Google Movies is another one that we will just rent from.

But it did exist, like at first, at first, I was like, oh, no, is this going to be one of those that like is super out of print and you need to find like a VHS YouTube. But no, it seemed to be out there. Okay, I will keep my eye out for it. Well, the last movie I have is a Rewatch. But it was one of those you know when like you know, it was for so Christmas Eve.

We were actually in a hotel because we were coming back home, but we we didn't want to take like a Christmas Eve flight, so instead we like stayed at the airport hotel. That night, got an early flight Christmas Day and came home. So Christmas Eve we're at like just in a hotel, nothing to do, near bedtime, but not quite bedtime. So I turned the TV on, like just like you know, it's so tough because you it's the old school cable, so you don't know what you're watching. You can't find the guide channel to tell you what's coming on, so you're just winging it.

You're hoping you'll land on something, and like, you know, is it not a dream come true to land up on a Step Up movie? Oh? Yeah? And so honestly, we were in a lot of hotels between just like last time, like last time Seattle trips and then going down to Palm Springs to like look for a place, and all we could find to watch was like reruns of Friends. There was like nothing on.

So you got very lucky. I did, I did, I was gifted and Step Up four Revolution good one. Yep, this is the one that for me is like kind of the least not believe. Again, we don't count one as a movie. One is separate.

It's you got served and then step up to the streets, Step Up three days, Step Up for Revolution and step up all all in. So four is not the one I would think like of always going back to. For me, it's three and five and then two, three and five, three and five. Yep, but four, i'm gonna say has the best dance sequences. Yes, So five for me, I'm glad we're talking about this.

Five for me to talk about this is the pinnacle. It's everything. It is. They collected everything from these five movies and said we're gonna give you all of it, all of it in ninety minutes, and they do it gloriously. Yes, there's not a minute.

There's like one joke I don't like. There's not a minute in that movie that I that does not give me immense joy. So five for me perfect. Yep. We've discussed it, and if you've been listening for a million years, I have been the part three dissenter.

I don't think three is as strong as other people. I think four is stronger than three for the exact reason that you just said though, the dance secret, the dancing, because that's why I'm there. Yeah, I'm not there for cuteness. I'm not there for characters. I'm not there for musical like things that feel like a musical and there's for me stuff and three, especially the Moose stuff feels like classic cutesy musical and see, I just love Moose so much.

That's also part of it is his you know, he's cameos in four, but it's so good because it's like you're in the entire movie. You're like, man, it'd be nice if Moose showed up and it shows up. And then he shows up. It's like the way he shows up and like for nobody should know who he is, but he shows up and like like just opens the door and it's him, and it's like everybody goes crazy because we all know. And then suddenly he's like he goes to the mayor and he's like, hey, Mayor, this is what's gonna happen, right, And the mayor is like, yeah, Moose a legend.

Yes, that's so fun. I love those movies. They're just perfect. They're so joyous. And four really does like the dance and like the finale is the finale goes on for like thirty minutes.

It's great. There's like skateboarding, they're parcouring, they're like God the walls. Yes, but then you also have like the protest dance songs, which are really fun and it's just it's really the dance sequences and four are just beautiful, like they really are very just dancing itself is high quality and I love watching that. Yeah, what a fun way to end, you know, always, I love love those movies. Good times, good times.

Well, with that being said, we will be back at some point. I gotta wait for some things to settle down over in Christine Lamt. It's true. That's true. So if you don't hear from us for a while, know that we're still we're we're waiting.

Next time you hear from me, I might sound different because I'll be very warm. Well, I'll be in a different apartment. Basically, I like to do that. Your like voice changes because of weather. Yeah, well I might actually look everybody, let's play a fun game.

You know how Flemy and Muca see and how often I have to clear my throat. Let's see if it's any better next time you listen. Okay, okay, next time I'll have like a little bell and I'll dig it anytime. So it's not that bad. For the record, I have never considered you Flemmy in terms of voice.

That's so funny. Not a word I would describe it. I had to mute to cough give you. Yeah, I will see, we'll see. This is all great and happy, but I will be delayed in getting back to speaking with you, and that makes me sad.

It does, yes, me as well. But I wish you a safe ture. Cannot wait to hear of all the adventures you have along the way and all the things we will talk about when you get there. And people. In the meantime, if you miss Christine, you can always buy her books Christine Nickpeace dot com.

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