174. I'll Always Know What You Caught Up With Last Summer

We are week media. Catch your phone everything, catch your phone everything, catch catchup, catchup, catch you, catch your phone everything. Jesus not clear? I like ketchup catching. I have since I was a little bug.

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There should be another voice, and there is. It's me. Yay. We are the feminine critique. As we said, we took a mini break because there were some big life things happening and stuff.

But we're back. We are back with some questionable movies to talk about, at least on my end. I mean technically, I have like Oscar nominees, so an Oscar winners on my list, so I don't want to say I'm more prestigious than you. But oh once I once I get into it, yes, the classy one will jump to the front, and I think that'll be you. Well, as I'm saying that, I'm like skimming through and when I get to some of the movies in my list, especially on the Horror Front.

It's like, yeah, that's that's a movie that when I when I'm gonna say some of the things that happened out loud, will will sound recently. So yeah, you know, people, you know what you're getting with us. We're two ladies who like movies and like talking about them. This because it's been a while, we are doing a catch up. I know we just did a catch up, but we just did a catch up like six months ago.

So leave us alone, pure of cheez things happen podcast, Come on, uh, and we're just gonna dive in talk about different stuff we've been watching. Uh. I know I have more than you. Sounds like it, I believe. So okay, So do you have any TV?

Any TV? Even watching any TV? That's a really great question. I don't think so nothing that springs to mind. So do you have anything?

I have? Yeah, one and a half TV because one I've just started. So the other one, uh was the on Peacock the series Apples Never Fall. Oh. I did see that advertised though, So for once I actually know what you're talking about.

Eh. Uh. It's this is one of those cases for me and this happens and it probably I can't remember if it happens at all this week, but it happens often is when you read a book and then you watch an adaptation of a book, especially in this case when it's a mini series, so it's going in as much depth as the book does. It means if that story is a mystery, it's impossible to actually gauge how it plays for somebody who hasn't. This is another Leanne Moriarty adaptation.

She did big little lies and mind hERG strangers and very like you know, and I don't say this dismissively at all, Like if you are a woman or Noah woman in a book club, you have read one of her books. And I like her writing. I think she does tell good mysteries. She finds good, good, interesting hooks in stories. And this was a book that I enjoyed because it was very It's about a family of four adult children whose mother goes missing, and it's them kind of you know, dealing with maybe how they treated her, but also their relationships with them with each other.

And you know, I am the youngest of four and my mother died a few years ago. And there's like a lot when I read the book, like there was so much that it was very much like, oh, this sibling reminds me of this one of my siblings. Oh this sibling is that sibling. Oh I'm I'm Brooke, like I'm you know whatever it was, and so seeing them the miniseries was like, Okay, this is And it was a tough one in that way, just because it was impossible for me to really judge, because instead it was very much begetting hung up on like why do they make that choice? That's a weird change to make.

And I think overall it's fine. It has some really good performances. The cast is great and at Manning's fantastic, and like, the shame is that she's not in it as much as you want her to be. And the other problem was I'm into it, but it gets to the last episode and it just for me, having read the book, I know it felt like, oh, there should have been more here in the ending. I imagine if you have come into it fresh, you also walk away saying oh that's where it ends.

And it gets melodramatic in an execution in a point in a way that felt lifetime silly to me. I don't know if others felt that way. But it is, so it's a tricky you really don't know. It's fine if if you're in the mood for something like that, there's plenty there for you. I just I thought it fumbled the ending of it for me.

Interesting. Yeah, I'd seen it advertised and I was like, this looks like it's being marketed directly to me, you know, like all that stuff is. Yeah, And then I kind of went like, I don't know if I want to do this, yeah, and I don't know that to tell you, like, I don't know that I would recommend it to a I think it's one of those very like this person. I'd recommend it to this person. I wouldn't this person I would, I wouldn't.

Like overall, like, I think, if you saw the preview, you know if it's for you or not, and if you're like, I don't know, then probably skip it because it yeah, yeah, it does didn't have to feel lifetimeish. I think her her writing and her books are generally like like elevated lifetime. And I say that as a compliment as somebody who like loves the good and bad of that world. But this ultimately to me felt like if you didn't have these big names attached to it absolutely should have been a lifetime Yeah, that's interesting. I don't and you know, I don't really respond that well, yes, yes, exactly.

The other show that I started, I have not finished yet, but I wanted to call it out because it okay, like, look, I am not a actor, I am not a on screen persona if you will, But there is a family member of mine in this in this show, in a shot on this show. So I don't know if you've heard of a little show on Amazon called Fallout. Yes, okay, so I know nothing about the game. I'm like three episodes in. I'm enjoying it.

It's it's very fun. So apparently a car that my brother purchased in like nineteen ninety five with the intent of restoring it was a nineteen fifty Dodge. He bought it nineteen ninety five or so. It sat in our driveway for about twenty five years. My dad recently so it like on eBay, and apparently it was sold to this show.

And there's a shot that you can see that car in. It's absurd so cool. Yes, for that reason alone, you know, everybody should watch and support the Entravia family. That's so weird. I once sold a T shirt on eBay that the guitarist for Thes bought.

Wow, I thought that was really weird. Is the moral of this story? How fascinating? Right? Right?

You never know, you never know who's on the other side of that. It's so weird, right, you know, I'm pretty cool. You're enjoying it so far. Yeah, it's three episodes in. I what I like is that it does not feel self important, like it feels fun.

It does not, And I have no idea how heavy it will get. There's been It's very violent, but in a really fun way. The cast is ridiculous because what you have is you have a really good core cat an Ella Parnell. I'm so happy for her. She's she is just adorable and she's so fun to watch, and so she's really holding it.

But then you have like Dale Dickey wandered in for an episode, Michael Emerson wandered in for an episode or two. Like there's things like that where you're like, oh, wow, they had money, they used it. They've it seemed to have been able to learn in a lot of different talent at different levels. Uh So it's it seems fun it's just violent and goofy and weird and and so far not overly serious. So I'm appreciating that.

It's good. Yeah, that's good fun. Yeah all right. So then I have a whole mess of things and I can go different directions. Give me something on your side.

Okay, well I don't yeah, I don't know how you want to break this up. But I have a few newer things, and then everything else is older that I like both do I I have the same like, do some newer stuff and then maybe okay, well, I I watched a movie that says it came out last year in twenty twenty three, called Retribution. It sounds familiar, but I feel like it also could be the title of a thousand movies, like a thousand different movies. Oh this is the one. It is the nekay from the director of Vacancy, which, like I in my old age, I've come to have a real weird relationship with that movie.

I've never enjoyed it, but I will repeatedly watch it just because I think it's fun to look at. So I was like, Okay, this movie, it's basically Liam Neeson doing taken, but you are, yeah, doing what he does it wasn't very good. Oh, I'm sorry. It's okay. I didn't know that I expected it to be, But I don't know that I expected it to be.

I've actually never seen taken. I don't know that I have. I mean, you've seen the scene that you need to know to know everything about Liam Neeson movies. But uh, yeah, but that's a shame because I I know, like he's kind of put himself underwater and a lot of very stupid comments as of late. But at the same time, like the he's it's not quite Mel Gibson levels of no, no, no, I am actively not going to do anything I can to support this person.

Yeah, although having said that, I did watch The Road Warrior, but but it's like a DVD we already owned, so I wasn't giving him any money. It's fine, yes, but but yeah, it's I want those movies to be as fun as they should be. So I'm sorry to hear that it was not for you. Yeah, it wasn't that great. That's that's a right.

Uh. Did you speaking of new and speaking of kind of action, y, did you watch the other big Amazon release of recent time? Might I might have? I think I know what you're gonna ask. What am I gonna ask about Roadhouse?

It's about Roadhouse. I think we talked about it, did I off recently? Tell you? I watched the first one for the first time, the original. No, it wasn't the first time for you, was it.

Yeah, that was the first time I saw a Roadhouse, right, he tells me it's not. But I don't think I remember. So which did you watch first, then you one or the old one? The old one? I watched that one maybe before we yeah, before we moved.

Okay, so it was a while ago, but I enjoyed it, and I thought it was weird. Yep. So yeah, I'm curious because people seemed so there were like very local people that really liked this movie. I was not one of them. For me, I watched it a good week after everybody shouted their complaints about it.

Yeah, and and the few people that were like, oh, it was fun. So I went in knowing it's not gonna be great. It's not gonna be the Roadhouse, you know, revision we've all wanted for thirty years. But I went in. So I went in with very low expectations and I had a good time.

Like I laughed it. I think it does. I don't think it sustains itself. I think the last act I don't just don't. I think it's not even though it's too long, it could have been two hours, but I think it doesn't balance it's time correctly.

But I had a good time. I thought Jake, Jill and all had a good time. I was happy to see him having fun and he took me along. For the rud, yeah, I can agree with that. And I rated it really low, and I think it probably is because it ended weekly that seems like too rude, but like it just didn't it didn't sustain the things that I that were working for me.

And yeah, Jillen Hall was obviously one of the things that was working. But it wasn't enough or I don't know, especially because like I just watched it, and yeah, it did all the thing, it did most of the things right, and this seemed like it couldn't get a lot of stuff right. Agreed, but for me, so like, yeah, I get if people like it, like it's fun and whatever, whatever. There's a couple things on here that I really liked a lot that I know are questionable, but that didn't hit for me, that's fair. That's fair.

Another I had actually a couple of other, well two other I guess action. I don't know where you put them, but sure, I'll call them action movies. Okay. One because I did try to watch a good chunk of Oscar movies, this one would fall there the movie that people have their money on to win the visual effects Oscar. I smartly did not.

I picked the one. That one. It was not this one. I watched The Creator on Hulu. What oh if you ask me in like, I think the clock is ticking in about probably, I don't know, thirty six days, I will have no memory of what this movie was.

Oh, that's such a terrible sign. It feels like it's sci fi. It looks great, like it really does look good. I do not. I I've seen him in other things and liked him.

I did not think he carried this movie. Well, that's I found him very boring. I did not find that he had the charisma to make this work, and it it just felt very self important. H it's cool to look at. I think if you're a fan of this kind of sci fi, like, oh yeah, watch it without question, you'll get stuff out of it.

But I just didn't care, is what it came down to for me. Yeah, yeah, I it was on my radar, I think Zack and I watched the trailer for it. But it so best case scenario, like it absolutely destroys me and makes me cry so hard I'm gonna throw up because I don't deal well with like android or like you know, human consciousness and side but like all that. Yeah, and there was a lot of that there. Or it's boring worst case scenario.

It's boring and I don't like it. So I truly feel like I cant might not be for you, So I know that kind of avoid it. Yeah right, unless you were like it changed my life, need to watch it, then I'd be like, Okay, maybe yeah, that this one didn't change your life? Well no, yeah, the other newer action I guess, but sure action. I will never learn this title.

But I did enjoy it to an extent. Hunger games, snakes, birds, songs, ballads, whatever, birds, songbirds and snowflakes and so on. Yeah, this I watched on a plane. It was one of my one of my many plane movies this month, and it is one I get you and I I think are on both like The Hunger Games, like really like Part two, it fiddles out, but like there's good stuff there, right, yeah, and this I feel similar like there is like the actors are great, like the two. Like I think Rachel Ziegler is is really really good and I and I hope she.

I know, people kind of have different feelings on her, and you know, she's got that very musical theater nists that I don't mind, but I'm I found her very compelling in this movie. It's funny because I started reading this book recently. I have it's kind of my like, oh, it's on my kindle, I'll read it in between other things. And I did realize immediately on the page the young Donald Sutherland character is much darker immediately, whereas in the movie I could not always tell kind of yeah where he was. And I don't know if that was probably a choice of the film as opposed to a choice of the actor.

There's a lot here I liked. I think pacing wise, it doesn't make sense for it to work. They were adapting the book, and I think they would have been wiser to break it up just because you Your Hunger Games is an hour into a two and a half hour movie. And so The Hunger Games ends and you're like, wait, how much more of this movie do I have? Because I think we kind of hit the big point the CGI.

Look, this is true of a couple of movies on here. I just hate this current visual landscape or in where nothing feels a tangible at all. I agree. Yeah, so things like that. But at the same time, if you like The Hunger Games, like absolutely get this one go.

I had fun with it, but I couldn't can objectively say yeah, but you know it's not great. Yeah, I want to watch it. But then I did that thing where I was like, I lied to myself and said, no, no, no, you're gonna want to read it first, because I've read them all before seeing them all like that's been my experience with all of them. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to keep this going. The book came out and I had years to read it and still so I think I just had to call it and no again, know thyself, I'm not going to get a chance to read it, and I would like to see it.

Yeah, give it a go. There's stuff there I think that's interesting. I you know, if I had been twenty years younger, like I would still be devouring this franchise so much. Oh yeah, for sure, I totally get that. I have an action, any one, let's do it.

So disappointing. This is why I pivoted back to older stuff. So this is twenty twenty four release starring my boyfriend Luke Evans, and it's called five Pounds of Pressure and it was very bad. That is a very specific title. Yeah, it's like about you need five pounds of pressure to pull a trigger.

I guess, well, you know, it's funny. That is a measurement for EIGHTYA compliance on a lot of things. Oh that's good, Like to open a laundry door. For a laundry machine to be a EIGHTA compliant, it has to be less than five pounds of pressure. To turn a knob on a stove has to be less than five pounds.

So there is like some precedents to five pounds pressure. That's interesting. I think I would have liked it a lot better if it was about that about designing for EIGHTYA compliance. Yeah, absolutely different testing and compliance. Yeah, I like that.

But no, Luke Evans was in this, and other than being handsome, I think he's a tremendous actor. I agree. Yeah, and Rory Culkin is also in it. Okay, And it just seems like, come on, this movie perfect, but it didn't deliver everything that I wanted it. I'm very sorry to hear that.

That's okay, I have another action one. Let's hear it. I watched Madam Webb. Oh wow, Okay, I have not. I don't know that I ever will, but I'm so curious to hear everything you have to say about it.

So I'm what's wild about this is I'm not watching newer movies. I'm not watching superhero movies. But for some reason, I am watching Dakota Johnson movies. But I've seen all the other, like I guess it's Sony Spider movies. I've managed to keep up on those, and I think Sydney Sweeney is very pretty and charming and Dakota Johnson's weird and awkward.

Yep. But so I was very curious about this movie. I actually liked it way more than a lot of the other movies I saw. I don't think it's good at all. It's very formulaic, manipulative, not do the things you actually wanted to do, giving you backstory you never asked for.

But I will say that Dakota Johnson feels over it like she's not even trying, like she's just being herself and it's so fun. See. And that's what seems so fascinating about the discourse around it, is this like kind of acknowledgment of like, yeah, I guess everybody knew they weren't making a good movie. And the question is is that, Okay, I don't know, I don't like it could just be the character, but she is so exasperated and over it, and it's like, what are these choices? They're amazing nice.

So yeah, that's a I recommend if if that's what you're looking for. I yes, I don't know if it was good, And I feel like the amount of discussion around it makes me think that like it's going to become very camp classic we're in ten years, there will be like drag race sketches on it and like things where I guess I have to watch it at some point because I'm gonna start missing jokes that everybody else now is on these references and I'm not. I hope, So that to me is best case scenario. It's I don't know again, it's probably not good. It's not good, but it's at least weird enough to be sustainably interesting.

Okay, okay, I can take that. You know. Sometimes it's all you can hope for. That's important. Oh my gosh.

I have one last new movie and it is also action. Let's hear it. This is very on brand and I need you to watch it. Maybe you already did. It is twenty twenty four's Sleigh on two V.

I have not yet. This is the drag Queen, right, This is like Heidian Closet, And yeah, oh so I've watched a lot of drag queen movies, like I've I watched Hurricane Beyonca and one and two, and I've seen like some of Willem's stuff that Willem's been slightly questionable. But this is the this is legitimately good. Yay. Oh that makes me so happy, like really funny.

Trinity is very funny in it, and some of the girls are just really delivering really good That's that's that warms me up, because I yeah, I saw like the poster for and I'm like, oh great, and then I'm like, but is it Because sometimes like I want to like something like that more than I actually can. But your your badge of approval is enough for me. It's stupid and a little clunky sometimes and campy and goofy. It's but it is. It's a vampire movie and there's actual jokes and gags good like it's it's in crystal so funny.

It's so stupid. Her choice is to just be very stupid and it's so funny. Yay. I will definitely give it a go. I keep forgetting to open to be I forget that it's there.

Yes, this is a This is a recommend to everybody had any passing interest. It definitely is worth it. Very good, I guess. On the subject of drag, I can talk about musicals. Oh yeah, I get it because I don't know if you know this, but there are like movies can be musicals.

I had no idea. Yeah you can. You can make a movie for like one hundred plus million dollars and you can put it in theaters and do a gigantic ad campaign and like you can do all that and not tell anybody that it's a musical. Because this is what twenty twenty three became. Like, I don't get it.

I hate this like again, like I understand a little bit, like, oh yeah, there's a certain you know, musicals haven't been doing well, so people don't think they like musicals or doing it. Admit they like musicals, so they don't go see musicals. But like if you paid to go see Wonka and you walked into that theater and you sat down and the movie opens and timothitay Chela may it's tap dancing and singing straight at the camera. That's a fucking musical. People.

You need to tell people that I did not know that this was a music. It's such a musical. I know. Here's the thing. I loved it.

I actually loved Wanka. Yeah I knew where it was a musical. Going to say that, yeah, it's delightful. I watched it on a plane. I I knew I was getting songs.

I was happy to get songs. I like musicals. But I found it hysterical as soon as it started because I remember every advertisement for it and never once did they suggest that it was a musical. And watching it, I'm like, this is more of a musical than like West Side Story was like this, this is such a musical. It's like that because when I heard like, oh, it's a secret musical.

I didn't really look into it because I wasn't all that interested to begin with. But I assumed it was like there's a there's some fun songs, or like there's a couple originals that that he sings at the camera and then it's done. But no, it's like for real, I mean, it's like it's not a like opera, Like there's plenty of dialogue, there's plenty of sequences, but there's I don't know how many songs, like eight songs or so, and they're big numbers. But like, so is it like, what is a musical that I've seen modern? Like, is it like the Greatest Showman?

Yeah? I think that's probably a good comparison in terms of how much music and like, yeah, characters are going to stop and express what they're doing in song. Does it look cool? Well, here's the thing. That's the one thing I didn't like about it.

Oh was it? I mean, I think and again, I grew up with there's a lot. Oh gosh, And let me get to the point where I was fucking sobbing like a baby on the plane with this movie. And I was sitting there thinking why did I pick an aisle seat? Everybody can see me cry?

Yeah? Yeah, uh, it's very sweet. Timoth tay Is is lovely like he is, he's all going, all in, has a great cast. Olivia Coleman's wonderful, like all these British people show up and are very funny. Like I know there were some like weird things going on with the whole huge grant thing, but like he's really funny the movie, so it's this was fun I will say, having grown up on you know, the Gene Wilder version, that is a movie that makes me want to just eat chocolate till I die.

Yeah, this movie doesn't want me, doesn't make me want to eat anything because nothing looks real, like it's that very cgi like artificial like that. It just feels cold in that way. Visually. It's the same director who did Paddington, and I think those movies are like have that too, Like this is just where we are as in a timeframe, and I have to start accepting that. But it still does like bother me.

And I'm watching something thinking this would be so much more magical if I felt like anything on screen was tangible. Well yeah, and like I just ran through the movies I've watched, the new movies I've watched, And that is one of the reasons why I've been pulling back to like like late nineties. Like I rewatched Devil's Advocate, okay, and it's all sets and buildings top right right, they're filming in New York on the street. Yeah, and it's like, oh, I love it and I want it, but yeah, and you put something on now and it's like maybe two people close up in a room that you're not really seeing, or it's all gray and not real and whatever. I get.

Yeah, I completely hear you. I get it, but like sometimes I don't want to look at it. Yeah, and you feel it in this one because it is very much aimed at kids, like and it doesn't feel I mean, in many ways it feels like the original in that regard. We're like, oh, yeah, this is a kid's movie, but there's plenty for adults here. You never really feel like it's talking down to you, but it does just visually.

I can accept it because it's how you make things for a young audience today. But it's a shame because I think that aside. I had so much fun with it. I was charmed. I was laughing and I bawled like a baby because there's just a very touching moment towards the end.

So it is a recommend. I enjoyed it so much more than I thought I would. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, it kind of is on my radar because I heard people say was actually pretty good. Yeah, I'd be really curious how you come back from it.

Yeah, maybe when I'm when I'm off my new stuff. I had one more new musical than musical. So then other new musical was another one that I don't know if you know this, but it was a musical. Everybody getting mad, Why are they remaking the color purple? No, they're not.

They're making a movie of the musical. Like I didn't know that either. That's crazy to me. That is crazy to me that you did not know this version of it. The reason they were making it was that it wasn't remaking the Spielberg film or readapting the novel.

It was no, no, no. There was a very successful Broadway musical that ran and then was revived just a few years later, and this is that, and two of the cast members were in two different Broadway productions. You had Daniel Brooks, who steals the movie and who you just wait for her to come back because she is just phenomenal in this, and Fantagiabrino, who's very good, who's who's really and was much better than I think. I think a lot of us knew she could sing, did not know how well she could act. She acts great, She's fantastic in this.

I didn't I wanted to like this so much more. Uh, it just left There was something about it that left me cold. I think it is almost it does that thing that very I mean, it feels very much Chicago of Okay, we're we're a musical that has to justify being a musical. So whenever it's music, either it's because things are happening that are music, or we're going into our main character's brain and she's interpreting things as music. And there's something about that that for me feels like like you're, like, I don't know, just fucking be a be Wonka.

Just sing. It's okay, like we'll watch you sing. You don't have to explain it as a fantasy within the moment of this, So I don't know like that that it was a weird it didn't fully like the magic, didn't fully connect for me in terms of like justifying how it moved. I guess I kind of went in and out on it, like I couldn't. It didn't hold me the way I would really wanted it to.

But it is if you were interested in the property, if you were, if you like musicals, are just certain certainly worth it. And again Daniel Brooks was so fucking good. Yeah that's interesting. I did not know that that's what it was. Yeah, that's interesting and strange.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't understand how they're marketing movies these days. That sounds like an old lady complaint. But like I sometimes I will watch trailers and like Wonka and now this no idea what it actually is. And then I'll watch some and it'll tell me the entire entire movie, yeah, and every twist, and I'm like, well, wait a minute, now, I don't feel like I need to watch this.

Why I hate trailers now? I used to love them. I do not like watching them now at all. I avoid them quite a bit. Did you did you see that trailer for that movie The Trap?

I think it's called I have not know. Okay, it's a very new movie that seems very good. But I kind of wish I hadn't watched the trailer because now I know all the beats of it and it makes to be sad. I will make sure I don't watch the trailer. Thank you for warning me.

It's just it's a cool premise, and like as the premise, they're unraveling the premise and the trailer, and I'm like, I wish I didn't know all this. Yep, yep, I get it, I get it. I feel that a lot. Yeah, yep. The other musical I watched was an older one and What I Love and Won that one of my favorite movies of all time.

But I watched it with the alternate ending, which I don't like. And this was a little shop of horse. Oh interesting, Yeah, you don't like the alternate ending. The alternate ending which is actually the original ending, the when the plants eat everybody, which is the broad which is the musical ending. And I can't remember we've talked about this, but basically this this is how Frank Cos made the movie.

They showed it a test screenings and people revolted, and they said, all right, fine, we'll change it and I think the other ending works better for screen, and I think also the actual execution of this alternate ending, it just goes on too long, Like you've reached a point where you're like, this is just the same thing is happening over and over again for ten minutes. So again, I think everybody, especially if you're fans of the movie, like watch the alternate ending separately one day, but never watch it with the alternate ending again, because it doesn't work that way. The last time I watched it, we watched it with the alternate ending, Yeah, and it did. It did make the movie overall feel too long.

So I think that it is isn't is successful. But yeah, that's speaking of my relationship with musicals. I don't even think of that movie as a musical. I really like it. I always I grew up and it was always in the background, and I was like, yeah, I like that movie.

I guess it's a musical. Sure, it most certainly is. Objectively, I can tell you that, yes, that is. I just don't I don't classify it that way in my head for some reason. Okay, it's a Frank Oz movie.

That's how I I can bridge musical over to comedy. Do you have any musicals? I can't imagine you do. Wouldn't that be funny? No, I don't think I do.

If you're like watching, yeah, here's my list of seventeen movies I watched, and they're all musicals. No, none of these. I was going to try to make a joke, but no, none of these are even cool. Well I've won that was that's a comedy, but that like is very musical theater uh influenced. And I loved this.

This was kind of probably like I'm a very specific demographic of this type of movie and it hit me theater camp with Ben Platt and Amy Scenaris and yeah, this is semi knew right, Yes, I think it came out a year or two ago. It's on Yeah, yeah, I know of it was it was it funny. I found it very funny. Yeah, you were, you're the right, right. I think of what had American summer for theater kids like that movie is that's what it looked like.

When when when I when I looked at it, I was like, oh, I think I understand, which is cute. I mean that's fun. It was very fun. I had a blast. I think anybody out there who is a musical theater person should watch this movie Stable and Joy if you were not.

But I don't know. But it's it's very cute and funny and I enjoyed to quite a bit. I have other comedies. Do you have any comedies? I guess maybe we could.

I watched Cocktail for the first time. I want to hear what you thought of Cocktail. I had a roommate in college who loved it, so I watched it a lot twenty years ago. I thought it was a lot weirder than I expected. It wasn't exactly what I what I thought it was going to be about.

But I don't know what I thought it was going to be about. It's also strange, like talk about a movie of its time, where you're like, what box do I put that in? Is it comedy? Is it drama? What is it?

It's definitely drama. It's definitely melodrama. I didn't really like. So. I worked at TGI Fridays for like a very long time.

I knew that there was a connection between like doing the flair that's right, yeah, from Cocktail, Like I knew the record, but I didn't understand like he literally is working at a teacher. Yeah, Fridays. It's the same wooden hardware, and it's just like it was wild to see. So did you do bartender poetry when you worked at TGI Friddays? No, I was not a bartender, but they used to do the flare and we'd have contests and people would buy seats around the bar to come and watch them.

Nice. That's so weird. Thing about that movie is the first hour is one movie, and then the second hour is another. And I don't think I like the second movie as much as I like the first movie, well because I think the like the Tom Cruise as a cocky bartender learning the ropes with Brian Brown, who I find incredibly sexy and I love watching him do anything like that to me is just a fun, weird eighties movie, like, and then when it turns into the Jamaica to deal with shoe stuff, like, it just gets kind of You're like, I don't like the sky, and now I have to watch him be a human, but I don't. I don't think he's good for her.

I don't think she's good for him. Can we just tend bar again? Oh? No, Now we have a surprise death like it's just strange. Yeah, I wish it had literally just been wal to Wall Bartending, which I guess might have been boring, but that's what I thought it was gonna be.

There's got to be movies like that Cody Ugly. Oh that's true. Now I want to watch that. That was another movie I watched a lot in college. Yeah, I've seen that movie a weird amount of time too.

It was always on cable. I think, did you ever go to the Bar to Hogs and Eifers that it's based on. Oh yeah, No, my friends in college really liked going there. That's so fun. Huh.

I held bags many a time as they stood on the bar. Oh that's nice. What can I say? Let's see other com I'm really curious if you've watched that. You don't have Netflix, so you probably didn't.

Did you watch No Hard Feelings with Jennifer Lawrence? No, I did not. I'd be curious what you thought of it, because it feels like a movie that I think, I don't know you would have interesting opinions on. I found it very funny. The trailer, or rather the marketing, seemed very repellent, like agreed, want me to watch it?

So I said, well, you win movie. I won't watch you. But I have heard that it's a little bit more subversive maybe than like what the what the marketing led to us to believe. Oh yeah, when I saw the trailers, like it was one of those same thing, I'm like, oh, this isn't for me. And then listened and read a lot of people whose opinions I tend to agree with, who just kept like advocating for this movie.

And it was set in Long Island. So I'm like, all right, you know, fine, I'll give it a try. And I I found it. It's very funny. She's I've always loved her and you know, like like since Winter's Bone, have loved her, and this is a really fun part for her.

It's fun to see her get to be like all out comedy. Uh, just you know, going for it. It's sweet, Like it is actually a very sweet movie about relation and hips and about like how these characters bounce off of each other. There's some I don't know that it fully. There's an interesting lens I think to view it from.

And I'm not the one to view it this way, but I'd be curious to hear more on people in the sex worked industry and kind of how this works in terms of that, like is it offensive is it not? Is it doing some things honestly or not? Like there was that was the one thing about it that I was like, I'd like to hear more discourse on that. But yeah, it was a really good time. So yeah, you're not the first person I've heard say something that made me think it might be worth watching.

Yeah, oh yeah, maybe when start watching real movies again. Another real movie I watched because of you because you recommended this one. What uh huh Yeah, and it was on the plane, so I got to watch it there bottoms. Oh, I rewatched it. It's so fun, isn't It's great?

It really I did. It's just perfect. Yeah. Yeah, I think we both love comedies that just get very escalated. Uh.

And something else that I think, like it's weird to say for this movie, but I feel like it is noteworthy, Like it's nice when the men in a movie like this are really funny, Like all of the men in this movie are great and are like some of the best parts of it. And I think it's very easy for that not to be the case, especially in a movie that is very much like, you know, these are like women a non binary like people writing and telling the story, but that like the men get to be really like you don't, like you raise their standards that they have to be really good in order to be in there. Marshan Lynch is one of the best parts of that. Oh yeah, he is hysterical every time he is on screen. It is ridiculous.

Yeah. So it's not just like, oh, your two leads are really funny. It's true. It's everybody hits. So.

Ruby Cruz is the short haired, brown haired girl in it. I can't remember her character name, but she was in the Willow TV show Okay, and I was like, Oh, I love this girl. She's such a talent. And then that Willow show got canceled and I was like, oh no, I'll never see her again. And then when I watched this, I was like, Oh, she's funny too, Yay.

So it was like, yay, maybe this person will have a career. Yeah. Just so many talented people in it. It's really great. Yeah, good times, it's exciting.

I'm glad you liked it. Oh yeah, very much. I have two other things that I guess would qualify as comedy. Did you have any more. I watched Catwoman?

Is that a comedy? Benny would say, how does Catwoman watch in twenty twenty four? Surprisingly good? I had never seen it before. I just knew the jokes and what everybody said was wrong with it.

It's worth it for Sharon Stone. Yeah, like fully she's She's just so good. Every villain should be that good. I do not know why we had what was this two thousand and four. Yeah, I don't know why.

Twenty years ago. Twenty years we understood what made a good superhero villain, but now we can't seem to figure it out. That is a shame. She's so good. It's just but like, yeah, obviously it sucked.

Yeah, yeah, that's a I don't know. There there are volumes of studies to be written about Catwoman and what it represented. I think because it's the thing like I mean, you know, I was young when Catwe came out, and I remember making fun of it and all of that, and I watched it back in the day on cable and thought, yeah, this is even dumber than I thought it would be. But there's so much around that movie. When you look back today, you're like, yeah, we did a lot of things wrong here, and it's we don't we shouldn't just blame the movie itself or poor halle Berry, who bore the brunt of that.

That was not her fault, that thing. No, the choices, and that's what's interesting to watch is just the incomprehensible choices, the broad goofiness, the really like unrefined storytelling, the just the gags are so the cat child dish, cartoonish. It's just who is this for? It? Really like I understand, especially twenty years ago, cartoon move comic book movies kids great, but it's not a kid's movie because she's dressed the way she is, right, and so who who is your who is your audience?

And I really think that was for me what was like, Well, that's the failure. It's not anybody. Everybody's doing what they came here to do. It's just like the way that it was. This.

Yeah, what a disappointment. Another one I have is older than Catwoman. I don't act you know the year in this, it's probably I think the late seventies. Oh, I am wildly curious if you've seen this, because I had heard the title but didn't know anything about it. And we sat down to watch the Lord.

It's a flat Bush no st alone. I've not seen it. So this is the most interesting thing about this movie is probably that or like trivia wise, what you can know about this movie is that this is the birth of the Fawns since nineteen seventy four, and Henry Winkler is in it, and this is a it's about fifties greasers in New York. So it's set in Brooklyn, set in Flatbush, which is where like my mom grew up, so that's I was like, oh, ye'll let me, like she would have been younger in the fifties. But this was an interesting kind of window and it's stallone.

It is Perry King, Henry Winkler, like, it's a great cast, and it's just their kind of like shitty eighteen year olds in Brooklyn doing their thing, getting girls pregnant or not getting girls pregnant, getting them to where the girl can say she's pregnant so she gets a ring and then you know all that. But basically it was like Henry Winkler is one of the guys in it, and he just modeled the Fawns on Stallone in this movie. It is it's it's a. It's really interesting to watch. It has I guess, like if you were comparing it to anything like a little bit Saturday Night Fever, just in terms of time and place, I guess okay, and even mood because it's like kind it's like kind of slice of life and kind of drama.

But it's very funny. But I don't know that it's always meaning to be funny. It was apparently like a pretty messy production. There's some great trivia about how Richard Gear was in the movie, but Richard Gear and Sylvester Stallone hated each other so much that basically it came down to a him or me thing. And Stallone is great in this movie.

I think it was his first like real movie or like kind of traditional movie. And it's one of those things where you're watching it, you're like, this is like anybody that watched that movie when it came out was like this guy, this guy is going to be a star, and he just he carries it. He's he's the same Stallone that you know now, but like just so confident back then. The women in it are really funny. There's some it's an odd it ended it.

The weird thing about it was that it felt like it was going to either be much bigger or much smaller, Like it felt like it should have had like tragedy or just been a comedy, and it doesn't. So when it ended, like we'd watched about half of it, stopped to like clean up after dinner, and then resumed, and when it ended, I was very like, wait, that's it, Like that's what where we were aiming to where we got so not like one hundred percent satisfying, but an interesting time capsule. Yeah, it's at that time period like early stallone is is really great. I'm a big fan. He is very charismatic.

Yeah, it's when you truly get it yep, at least for me, where I'm like, oh yeah, And apparently he wrote a lot of his own dialogue, like and you believe it because it comes very natural from him. Or did you have any more comedy? No? No, I was going through Nothing's all right? So I have a comedy that leads into like Oscar stuff, so I can do a rundown there.

So I did get to watch all ten Best Picture nominees. Wow, I'm thank you? Yes? Is that common? Are you able to do that most years?

Or is this not the last couple of years, I used to be able to. I used to not be able to, but I used to like actively try to. And then the last couple of years with a thousand different streaming sites and with movies being very long. Yeah it And this year, I mean this year we had two three hour movies. Uh, several two and a half hour movies like these were all there.

I think like eight out of ten of the nominees were well over two hours. But I was able to do it this year, and I was and I hit the point it was, like I think day the night before is when I got to like watch the last one. So I did get to wrap all of them up. And I was very proud of myself. Yeah that's quite an accomplishment.

Yeah, so I can even do a ranking. So I don't know if I remember all of them. I already talked about mystro which was like my number ten, not terrible, but like just everybody would kind of agree on that. My number nine. I feel like this is the one that I probably differ with a lot of people on one of the shortest ones.

Surprisingly, And I watched it on the plane. I was excited to watch it because I'd heard great things. I was left kind of cold by past lives. Oh really, peop are very jazzed about that, I know. I don't know if it was just me not being in the right mood for it.

It felt to me like a I like the sentiment of it. I like kind of what it was exploring. But I found I didn't And I've liked Greta Lee and other things. I found her character not compelling enough to warrant this story. I found the men more interesting, which is a weird thing for me to say, ever, but it Yeah, it didn't do much for me.

And I maybe I had my I had heard so much about it that I might have had higher expectations, but it yeah, kind of yeah, that's fine. I'd probably put Oppenheimer maybe around eight. I had an actual ranking of this at one point. I don't know if I can find it. I liked Appenheimer was fine, it's fine, It's exactly what you think it is.

You didn't see it, did you. No. I had the urge to watch it, like we had. We took a couple of days off after we moved, and I was like, maybe this will be a good time to really dig into something well and none. I was like, now I don't want to watch it.

So the thing is it is more entertaining than I think it could have been. Like it it did not have to be as engaging as a movie. It's very watchable. It is it is long. I wasn't bored.

I just I did feel like the three acts structure. For me. By the third act, I was done. I just didn't care as much about that. Yeah, or was the first act I can't even remember now my problem with it?

Or I was joking the first hour. No, the first hour was the pain point for me because I just Brannon was like, walk by, I've been watching it. He's like, how is it? I'm like, and I'd pause it. I'm like, I need you to know that this is really an important story and that this man is important.

Do you know how important this is? Because if you made a drinking game of how often the word important in regards to Oppenheimer and what he's doing is used in this movie, you would be dead. It thankfully goes once, like the story gets moving, like it's it's fine. I was involved. The second hour for me was probably the most interesting thing, but it was very like, oh yeah, this is a movie about important men.

Everybody, stop what you're doing, important men walking by. Uh. But having said all of that, it was entertaining. I have no problem with it winning Best Picture. I get it.

It was a giant movie that everybody liked, that did great things for the film industry. Like It's fine. Uh, just was not by any means my favorite. Yeah, so American Fiction was kind of in the mix there. I liked this movie a lot.

I loved it, and then I kind of thought it petered out on the I didn't like what it does with its ending. It's one that I kind of want to think more on and probably eventually rewatch and maybe read, because it makes a very particular choice in how it ends the movie, and it for me that didn't feel right to a movie. But I'm curious. I don't know that I'm settled on that decision. Okay, it's very good, it's very funny.

Jeffrey Wright's great, Everybody is great, Strayling K. Brown is fantastic. As much as I do think Charles Melton should been nominated for a Sporting Actor, I was very nice to like to see him in this movie and be like that that is a good performance to give a nod to. Yeah, this is what I think. This is gonna be one of the only ones that you mentioned that.

I'm actually like, it's on my cue and I'm interested to see it. So it's nice to hear that you enjoyed it, except maybe for an ending choice, so that that gives me hope there's at least something there. Oh, there is so much there, and I would say that to anybody like American fiction is a hearty recommendation and even down to like the score is great, like the music choices are fantastic. It's just it. I just felt unsatisfied by the ending, But I think there's also something in that.

Like I think that was again, without spoiling anything, it feels like the way you walk away from that movie might be telling in different ways and maybe like you should look inward on how you feel about that ending type thing. So I'm not like committing to saying, hey, the ending ruins the movie like just for me at this moment in time after the first viewing it let me down, but hearty recommendation. Okay, what else was there? There was anatomy of a fall I really enjoyed. Yeah, that's another one that I probably will get around you.

You should watch this. I want you to watch this. Yeah, I think you will get a lot from it. The other thing, I would recommend watch it with Zach, watch it with someone because it is such a fun movie when it's over to turn to the person next to you and be like, so, what do you think happened? And then to like and every person I have talked to it's so interesting where like Brannon and I like believed this one thing but then had it differed on another part of the story.

I have a friend and her husband who like matched up with us it completely like she had the same read that I did, and her husband had the same read that Brandon did. Then like my brother read it completely differently, my niece read it a different way. Like it's like you don't realize until it's over how much it it very and like I knew that this was a movie that was made in a way to not tell you everything, like it is supposed to do that. But even like having said that, you still like walk away, Like, okay, well I could say this point of view, and instead I'm like, no, I am very sure that that this and this happened and yet very very intelligent people who watched it next to me felt differently. So and it's all legal stuff, like this movie's made for you, Christine.

Yeah, I'll get around to it. I definitely want to watch it. So's I'm glad you enjoyed it. Oh yes. The last two Oscar movies, the longest of them and the one that I was not like.

I still this was like the make or break of Like, if I can watch this movie, then I can watch all ten best Oscar nominees because it's three and a half hours long. If I can find three and a half hours, I can find another like ten hours for the rest of them. And that was Killer's of the Flower Moon. Okay, So yeah, I don't feel like I will ever watch this movie. I was surprised by how I won't say I was surprised.

I expected it to be Scorsese, so I mean not expected it it was Scorsese. That wasn't a twist. I went in knowing, well, it's Scorsese. It's like a Spielberg movie, even if it's not a story I want to watch or a length I want to watch, like it's gonna be a good movie. So I knew it would be.

And I will say with this like I did watch it probably in like three sittings total. I was never bored. Was it too long? I don't know. If I sat down in one sitting and watched it, maybe I would have felt that way.

But I don't know if I would have, because I like when I I would stop it when I had to go somewhere and I'm like, okay, I'm looking for tomorrow morning. I get to finished that movie like I was riveted. I do think DiCaprio like, I don't know if you do this. Do you ever start a movie and somewhere in your brain a door opens where suddenly another actor pops in and you're like, imagine if this person was in that part instead, and suddenly you can't watch the movie the same way. I don't know what it was.

I had a moment early on where I'm like, you know, I would have been really good in that part, like on paper, if I was reading this book, I would have put Jake Jillenhall there. And once I had that in my head, I had a really hard time with like gauging his performance. Yeah, I get that, yeah, cause I think he's a he's a tricky presence on screen because I can never tell and with this movie, like and it is a question on like how much does he know? How much is he active? How much is he passive?

And there was a party that I'm like, I wish he was a little bit dumber or a little bit like cuter to where I could see what Lee Gladstone's character sees in him and be on that page and like at least see that. So that I don't know, and I can't even blame like Scorsese or DiCaprio for that. That was just a thing where like once in my head I saw something there that I didn't want to see. It made it hard, But overall I loved this. I don't know if you would like it.

I don't know that it's needs to be seen by you, but it worked a lot for me. And then my best picture again, I love Zone of Interest. That would probably be number two, but my number one. I was so happy to watch it. I loved poor Things.

Oh yeah that's true. Okay, yeah, I definitely that is on the cue as well. I don't know, I'm just avoiding real movies air quotes. I guess once I once I start cruising through what I have left. You're gonna be like, oh boy, this broad is not ready to watch Oscar nominee.

I do think in time when you were ready, you should definitely watch Four Things. So where does this fall within the rest of his filmography for you? Oh? I that's a good question, I would have to think, because I feel like I need to see all of his movies again, and I have. I have seen Lobster, I've seen Sacred Deer, I've seen Dog Tooth Alps, I've seen like two of his older pre Hollywood films, I guess, and I love all of them, and I love how again, how weird, how dark, all of that.

I have to think on that because my when I watched it, my immediate thought was this is my favorite of his. Yeah, because it is. I think it's his funnest, it's it's it's your ghosts. It is weird, it is dark, it is raunchy, violent, sexy everything. But yet it's also really positive and at its heart it is telling a very like beautiful story of what it means to be a human.

Yeah, just like the Lobster completely of course. Well, and that's where Sacred is my favorite Lobster second favor. Well, that's I forget about the favorite too. That's the thing as I think through it, Sacred Deer to me is the as weird and as and but just the flip of that of like, oh but people are shit like and I and the thing is like I love that about sick A Sacred Deer until now was my favorite. I don't know if I if I sat and mutch both of these back to back, I might depending on how I felt about the world that day.

I think if I felt hopeful, would be poor Things. If I felt devastated, it would be Sacred Deer because I I love killing him. A Sacred Seer. Yeah, it's really great. Yeah, you need to.

You should see four things. It's on the list. I definitely will. The costumes are so good you will want to wear a cocoon coat. Oh okay, Yeah, I had one more drama ish that moves into horror.

So before I do that, did you have anything else there? Yeah? I guess so for me for an actual drama. Maybe one of the better movies I've watched since the last time we talked nineteen seventy eight. The Boys from Brazil.

Oh, the Boys did you know what this was about before you went in. Yeah, I had just read the book. Oh oh, So I wish you had my experience of having no idea what this movie was and just your husband being like, Hey, do you want to watch this? It's Gregory pack It's a you know, ninety seventy eight. Yeah, sure, Okay, what how's the book?

It's phenomenal. So I've been I go through a little I knew it was somebody of that stature. I couldn't remember who he is, probably one of my favorite writers of all time. At this point, I I trauma read Rosemary's Baby so like I had just like listened to it in its entirety and then listened to it again in its entirety, and I was like, you know what, I need something else. I can't just listen to Rosemary's Baby for the rest of my life.

So I decided to listen to the audiobook for Boys from Brazil, and I didn't really have any idea what it was about it. The book plays more like a mystery. Okay, I guess it's like a little bit easier to play it close to the vest because instead of seeing these things that obviously lead you to it a conclusion. Yep. Iris kind of just doling out the very little you need to know, so it's very easy to not notice what's happening.

Nice, which I thought was a little bit more effective than how the movie handles it. But the movie was still great. It was still great. Yeah, it's it's Gregory Peck. Who else.

There's a few is not for to stare, but there's like quite a few. James Mason. James Mason, Oh my god, it's just when they're wrestling at the end, and oh yeah, and Laurence Olivia, Oh that's right. Yeah. Oh, and the opening is Steve Gutenberg.

I just looked at the cast and I remember that it opens with like the youngest Steve Gutenberg, and I knew what the character's fate was, so I was so fucking bummed. I was like, he's not gonna be in it. But it was great. Yeah, super high recommend. Oh god, people, if you have not seen Boys from Brazil, and I can see what you mean.

We're like, if if that's what you watched, and then you like, the next thing you watched was Madam Webb. It's a it's a good advertisement for watching things older than you. If you will. Just that's kind of just where my where my heart's at right now. Yeah, I get it, I completely get it.

Uh, did you have any more drama? I don't know nothing. I have nothing else serious als Oh come now, okay, So well here's one that I know you watched because I we've talked about it. So we also wrapped up the Kenneth Brana pour Luh saga. So we did whatever the Egypt Cairo, Death on the Nile, and then Haunting and Venice.

Uh. Yeah, I was disappointed in Haunting and Venice. I It's like I, I, it didn't do anything. You can do anything. There was something very like I the movie was over, and I swear the next day I forgot that I watched it.

Yeah, why what did the movie do? That was so like forgettable? So somebody said, well, the thing you need to remember is that it's not a who've done it? It's a mystery. Yeah great, I'm not actually, I mean, you're trying to figure out who did it.

But like I understand like the distinction that they're maybe trying to make to me that like if you're looking for like a big grand reveal of all the ways it led to this person. You're not gonna get who done it? You want? But my problem was if it was a mystery, then why didn't you attempt to solve it? There were so many like threads that didn't get pulled, so many things nobody ever asked about.

Isn't that the whole point of like a mystery is like of like everything making sense at the end. But it felt like the script was like like loose and and like tenderly and nobody tightened it up like there were too many people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think Death Ofmonisle was kind of similar, where it's like, Okay, everybody's got to have their moment of proving. And I guess this is true of any mystery, particularly like the ag of the Christy type. We're like, oh, well, you have to know why every single person is there and why they might have done it or how they didn't do it.

But I'm not I don't want to be rude again, and who am I to say this? But I think that really shows weakness and the modern screenplays because you don't need all this time to get like a punch in character. You can get a punched in character and like three lines, so like you're just not doing it efficiently, because that's a hallmark of an amazing who done it. I mean, think about the original orient Express it's just fucking crammed with people and faces and it's like exciting and amazing, and that's not how it feels anymore. These movies feel like we have to give all these stars same time, even though it's not additive to like what we're doing.

Yeah, I think it's a very very good way of very passionate about these movies. It makes me sad when they're not done well well. And I think also because you have knives Out and glass Onion right there, as you know, obviously different types of these stories, but very much in the same mold, and you look at those you're like, Okay, these are also movies that have big casts of very famous actors, and so why do they work? And this one doesn't like And there's a lot of different reasons for it, but it kind of goes to show like, oh, it's not just the format that is the problem, Like there's execution to that format that these ones aren't doing. Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, i'd say, And I know I've talked way too highly about it, way too much. But Murder Mystery the Adam Sandler Jennifer Aniston movie does so much of what this movie can't seem to do well, like it's it's it's it's hard to do, Like that's why it was exciting when we started doing them again, like oh it's tough to who done it? And murder mysteries so like it's cool that they're being done successfully in a modern time. Well, that seemed to be short lived. I guess, yeah, we might get back to it.

I hope, So, I hope. So yeah, how about we take a quick break before coming back for her? Yes? Awesome? What the hell are musicals?

It appears to be a play where the dialogue stops and the plot is conveyed through song. Through song, Yes, so an actor is saying his lines and then out of nowhere, he just starts singing yes. Well, that is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. You're doing a play, got something to say, so you sing it? It's absurd.

Who on earth is going to sit there while an actor breaks into song? What possible thought could the audience think other than this is horribly wrong? Remarkably, they won't think that seriously? Why not? Because it's oh, musical, a musical and nothing's that's amazing a musical song.

All right, we're back for a little bundle of horror. Ah I got I range from terrible to good. I don't know anything great on my list. But you said, oh no, I have one that's great. You have something great.

You said, I have a couple strange entries here. I guess you know what. I'm gonna go big. I watched the wildest, weirdest, most fun movie I'm listening nineteen eighty three. Two forces have claimed the house.

Only one will survive. So this is called of Unknown Origin. It stars Peter Weller and it is about a giant rat o. It is exceptionally when when you click on it on IMDb. Has as a decent poster, but the best is the trailer.

The the screenshot that used for the trailer is just a woman with fabulous blonde hair screaming at the camera. Yeah it's it's oh a chinon tweed, Yes, Mary Chicken. This is a fun, fun little cast. It's so it's very much like man allows circumstances to destroy him, like because like very Edgar Allan Poe, very Telltale Heart. So it's just this guy absolutely like losing it with this rat that's like terrorizing him.

Nice director who also did Cobra Rambo Rambo two First Blood, which I mean those right there, that's fun. So weird? Is this streaming somewhere? I don't know how we watched it. It was on some kind of list, so we went and sought it out.

I think, Oh, that's exciting. I will, I will indeed seek this one out. It was so weird. Oh nice, very nice. Okay, I look at that air.

Do I have anything from that? Oh? I have one from a few older things, not many, but one from ninety three n two. And this is a crazy one because like, how did how was this movie not talked about more today? Because it feels I'm sure you have this when you watch movies from especially the early nineties, and the cast like it starts showing the cast list, and you're like a J.

Langer, Brian Tatillo, Lucas from Days of Our Lives, Peter Billingsley, Megan Ward, John Delancy Seth Green, Like if all of these names are in a movie together, are you not really excited? Yeah? So I loved Lucas from Days of Our Lives? What movie is. This is written by David S.

Goyer, who would go on to have quite a career, directed by Albert Pune. Full Moon Entertainment's Arcade Arcade Arcade I had. I'm saying, I've never heard of this. I'm pretty sure I have this on DVD in one of those like Full Moon sets I bought for three dollars. It came out apparently like right it was being made when Tron was being made, and Disney kind of helped put it away, Like Disney was like, oh, no, you can't release your movie in the United States because people are gonna confuse it with Tron.

So it I think it had an overseas release. It went straight to video. It's a bunch of teenagers go to an arcade and they're testing out a new game called Arcade, which seems like a very bad name for a game at an arcade, but anyway, and it's a little on the nose, a bit, a bit like it just makes it hard to talk about arcade when like within the movie you have to talk about arcades anyway, and Lucas from Days of Our Lives gets sucked into the game, but nobody realizes at first, except for his girlfriend, and she gets Peter Billingsley to help her go into the game and find out what's going on. Meanwhile, Ran Graft from My Soul called Life is getting sucked into the game. Oz from Buffy is getting sucked into the game, and these two plucky teenagers have to First they go to the game headquarters where they figure out what happened, and of course it involves like you know, using a human soul for the arcade game with demons, and then they have to play the arcade game within the arcade.

It's it's like really early CGI. It was fun. This movie was so fun. I don't know why it's not more talked about. It looks amazing and I'm like, I don't know, I love I love Goyer.

I don't know why I don't. I'm such a sucker. There's just something about his stuff. He does stuff that like I really respond well to, like his gimmicks and his characters are always really fun. So that's really exciting.

Yeah, it's definitely like, because I'm not the biggest fan of I don't think I am. I feel like every time I see his name on something, I'm my twitch. But it could just be me. Yeah, me too. But then I'm like, oh, yeah, I love it.

It's blatant, it's all my well. And that's the thing, Like he came from a like he's he's probably i don't know, twenty years older than us, but so he came of age and he like he was an early nerd who got his hooks into the industry. And this movie feels like it was. It's amazing how in many ways this feels very much of its time in a great way of like, no, this is kind of how teenagers probably did talk about arcade games back then. Like it does feel not like it was grown.

Like I'm trying to think of like a good analogy is how what was it like Cameron Crowe when he was writing Fast Times at were John High? Like Amy Heckerling like went to high school like to try to like really hear what teenagers was talking. Yeah, like that feels a little bit of this of like no, no, this this feels legitimate. It feels like youth of that. Uh.

And there's you know, like there's like when you have good actors in a you know, even if it's not a great movie, like they're all so like it's that's a j Langer. That's seth Green Like You're immediately drawn in, and so it had heart to me, like I like these kids, I didn't want them to die. Has a good ending. It's it's on Amazon Prime. I highly recommend it.

I had a really good time. Yeah, I've added it to my cue to watch it exactly if once I tell you the rest of the movies I've watched, she'll be like, oh, yes, this is exactly where she's at. Yeah, fantastic from that era. I actually have another one. Uh, let's see, So okay, bring up this one, because I believe you've seen it.

This is a blind spot for me. For a long time. I'd known of it, but it used to be very difficult to find. It wasn't really commercially released. Shutter has been airing it, and I understand why they have been now and we'll to that in a second.

But I said that with Brandon to watch ghost Watch. Oh my gosh, so good. Yeah, love it. You had seen it a long time ago, right, yeah, a few years ago probably, like, and I've watched it a handful of times since because there are parts of it that are terrifying. Oh, it's what's funny watching it was realizing, like because again I had not had access to it, and I wondered, I'm like, I wonder if, like Mike Flanagan was a fan of this, Like there's definitely things it's doing that later would be very common, like the hidden ghosts and you know, different shots where you see something only if you're paying attention, like both of us caught things that the other one didn't catch me or watching it.

I really liked it. I do think it. I think the ending is a little bit doesn't quite do what it is aiming to do, which is disappointing because it kind of left us both brand and more so than me, like, but it didn't quite get to where it thought it did. I guess maybe that's what I was saying. But a fun watch and a good precursor to what we watched last night.

And I'm curious if you have because it's been on Shutter and they've been doing a very vocal job of promoting it. This is Late Night with the Devil. No, I have not seen it. I haven't seen any real like I haven't seen Lisa Frankenstein, like if that shows up at all on yours. It's on peak by the way, I haven't wanted you it either.

Yeah. No, there's just so many things that are available, but like I haven't, I haven't started watching actual movies. I So my mom has been very excited about this movie. She has texted me to tell me it's available three separate times. She's so jazzed about it.

I know. I haven't talked to her, Okay, I really wanted her. She didn't immediately tell me how much she liked it, so that makes me think maybe she didn't. But I heard when it was in theaters. I was hearing a lot of really good stuff.

I thought, Hey, this is a great concept, but I don't know what execution is going to look like. So that makes me a little nervous because maybe it can't hold up to its concept, you know. And now that it's been streaming, I've seen a lot more negative takes on it. So I'm very curious what you think. So I the reason we watched it last night, like I wanted to watch it quickly as soon as it came on shutter because it's one of those like civilian crossover horror movies.

Right when people that like at work will come to me and be like, oh, hey, have you heard about that film. That's when I know, like, oh, this is reaching the normies, right, this is not like people that aren't horror fans are talking about this, Like you know, I read a lot of different like online public like I read like York Magazine and Vulture, and like those don't spend a lot of time in horror. So when they're interviewing the actor in Late Night with the Devil, I'm like, oh, this is crossing over interesting And I would say pretty much exactly what you said. It's a great concept and it and the movie commits to the concept. It.

I really respect this movie. I admire what it's trying to do way more than I actually enjoyed the final product. Unfortunately, it's worth watching. Uh. I had one like fundamental problem that sort of like in a way came from ghost Watch, which is like, there's an issue in ghost Watch and kind of how it crosses a line I guess at a certain point of like believability and with Late Night with the Devil, it open it presents itself as this is this talk This talk show was you know, on the air for eight years and then this you know, and you're like, wait, but if you're putting me in a world where this was a thing, where people knew who this guy was, where people watch the show.

How how is this? How did this happen? And how do we not know about? Like there was something about it that they'd set itself up to believably in a way to where when it went as far as it did, you're like, but I don't know what world I'm in anymore now. Yeah, it was too anchored in reality until it wasn't, until it wasn't and then it But because it wasn't, I was like not buying into it being kind of as big as it was going.

So yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's worth a watch. I'm glad it's there. I think, like, I love the idea that this is getting people talking and this is a fresh movie. There's nothing like it.

I'm saying that. I'm sure somebody there's things I'm forgetting, but like this, like is a very original way of making a horror movie, and that's great. I just didn't doesn't mean that I love the final product as much. Yeah, yeah, I still want to watch it. But that was kind of my impression of it from afar.

It reminded me a little bit of the premise for a cleansing hour yep, yeah, just a little bit like obviously not one for one, but like and that to me didn't execute as well as the premise. Yeah, So it's always in the back of my head. It's like, uh, do I want to do it? And we'll watch it and then you should because I think it's going to be one that a lot of people talk about, and that's in it's alf kind of interesting to see and to see where where it hits and doesn't. Yeah.

Another on the on the topic of good premises that don't also don't wait to deliver. I know, you know, I think you watched this movie first about a year ago. I finally got around to Dark Harvest on Amazon. Oh yeah, like disappointing overall, Yeah, yeah, because it it's the weird case where I watched this and then when I realized it was based on a book, I'm like, I'll read that book because this is a great story. It's a great setup.

That's so interesting because for me, I think it really is just the way it was visualized didn't work. Yeah, which is weird because that was what a lot of people seemed to really connect with. Well, when the movie started, I was convinced. I'm like, there's going to be a twist that it's that the whole thing is that this is sort of like a colony somewhere, and that it's not nineteen sixty two. That because there's no way these these actors are acting like it's nineteen sixty two.

Oh no, it is. They just weren't directed well enough to know how to talk in nineteen sixty two, Like, you know, like there were things like that where I'm like, oh this now, I'm thinking this movie is more than it is and it takes you out. Yeah, yeah, disappointing another one that, okay, not to be on the disappointing track. But I also know that you watched this one and felt I think similarly because you had said, like, this is a movie that seems to have been received really well by the horror community, and I think you said something was missing for you, and I would agree for me. Suitable flesh on shutters.

Yeah, it was just a little little, a little empty. That's the one that I said, felt so much like, uh, Stuart, Yeah, Stuart Corey, Yeah, I kept wanting to stay Costcarelli, but I knew that was wrong Stuart Gordon movie. It felt so much like it, and then it was like not I didn't. I don't know again little cold. Yeah, I think the problem I had I think when I was if I had to say like, well, what, why do you think it didn't work for you?

I feel like Heather Graham was miscast. I never bought her in that I didn't understand. Is she supposed to be like a real, like caring and brilliant psychchiatrist or is she an idiot and confused? Yeah? Like that character is making choices that you have to understand that character to go with the choices, and you because you don't.

It just left the whole thing for me feeling very flat. Yep. Yeah. Did you did you see Perpetrator? I don't know, I did.

I finally watched it. Yeah, like it a lot. Yeah, so to me, it just for some reason, they're very linked in my head. And one is say that like the successful version, and I know that they're not doing the same thing, but in a lot of ways they are to me thematically what I'm supposed to believe from my from my older female leads. See, you know, like what I'm supposed to take from it, and I didn't get what I wanted from a suitable fly.

Yeah yeah, same same line. I swear there will be some on here that I really liked, but I went through I did the same thing, and that's why my lit. But here's one another one that left me kind of cold and seemed to have wowed a lot of horror fans, and this was talk to Me. Oh my gosh, I love talk to Me. Oh I'm good.

I'm glad you did. It's one of my favorite mainstream horror releases of the recent time. I'm so sorry it didn't work for you. I completely get why it didn't. Yeah, it like it had me for a while, it just didn't.

I loved something that and I'm curious if this played into your like take it all. I thought it was a really interesting approach for a lead character, for her to kind of be a really shitty teenager love it like that was interesting, but it didn't. And there things around that that was like, Okay, this is a choice, and I like this movie made choices here. But then the I don't know the rest of it just left me like I hit a point with that movie where I was like, yeah, I'm kind of tapped out of it. Oh yeah, yeah.

It was really like disturbingly brutal, but like in a way that worked for me. It felt like necessary to the story. It was really disturbing and scary, and I don't feel affected by many. Yeah I'm so old and dead inside. Yeah, it just it just worked.

There are a couple of things that maybe I didn't love, but the things that worked I think over like outweighed it and I actually did like buy the lore and like the mythos. I liked stupid kids and this weird escalation, this like desperate addiction type quality to it was really weird and felt like relevant and uncomfortable, but also like if you didn't like there was some corny shit that maybe didn't really work, Like I fully get it, but I don't know why that one that one hit for me. Well good, I'm glad when things too. Yeah, it's nice occasionally. Yeah, Oh I have one that I really liked.

Oh good on Netflix. I think it was twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two. This is vetish. I think the conference super fun slasher horror comedy. A bunch of people who work in a company that is doing like sort of what what would you call it?

They're like they have they're doing like building a new well. Team building conference, team building conference. Thank you so, And I love like we've I think we've talked about this. I love office horror. I want more of it.

Give me a mix of ages and skills and inner conflicts of every day eating your fish up next to the person that's allergic to fish. Like, give me those things in a movie, because right there that's a story. Throw a machete wielding guy in a big mask and like you sold me, And this like delivers on all of those things it has. It's really like creative with its violence. It has some very fun characters and fun villains.

It has something to say. It's very satirical, but it's also just exciting. It's very funny. I just I had a great time with us. Yeah, it looks really good.

YEP, I recommend, I recommend. I got a few more. Do you have any more they want to throw out? Yeah? Sure, I need to take you all the way back to the eighties for this one.

I'm pretty sure you've seen this. I feel like I'm very late to the party. Butcher Baker nightmare Maker. Yes, I only watched it maybe a year or two ago when it first came to shudder, Okay, this is fun. It was very good Susan Tyreell, very strange and uh huh, really exciting.

One of those movies that like, once you see it, you're like, oh, let me go back and read any like any film writing, like genre film writing in the queer community, like had to be referencing this movie, like there's so much there and it's it's fun. Yeah, it's it's a wild one. It's definitely not what I expected, while also fully living up to its synopsis. I feel like that is one of my favorite openings of any movie ever, where Susan Tyrrell just like sends the couple off and like what is it? They drive away and like you see that she's like broken their cut their brakes or something.

It's so great, so over the top. I love that broad bullshit, like it's so drag Like the movie feels like a giant, giant drag show. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. All right, I'll go even older than that one.

Okay, So here's one that I have to say, with a couple of caveats. It's a movie I've seen a few times, I think I think this is this third time or maybe fourth time, and it's a movie that is beloved in the horror community, and I have always wanted to love it more and I always feel like I'm missing something. And Brandon had never seen it, and I'm like, you know what, let's watch this. It's this is a turn the lights out. I made dinner early.

We can sit there and watch it, like, because I think you'll I think it's it felt like the kind of movie that Brannon would really like. And I'm like, I want to watch it through your eyes, like I want to see somebody who hasn't seen it before and see if it like find what's there. And we watch it and it's over and the next day we don't talk about it. That night. Next day Brandon's like, what did you think?

I'm like, and I say, I'm like every time I want to like it more. He's like, yeah, I mean too, He's like, yeah, I didn't like oh the Changeling. Oh yeah, for sure. There are things in that movie that like absolutely slap that works so well, But overall, I think for me, it's not zippy enough. And I like the aspect of like as I was watching it this time the opening hour, I'm like, I'm loving him just talking to his friends about his new career and teaching classical music composing.

This is great. And then realize, no, oh god, no, he's so good. Oh good, Yeah, George Scott can do anything like it. Put him in any movie and he's going to be great, and like all of that, Like I'm into the slowness for so much of it until you realize it has it's not gonna have anything to do with where the actual horror story is going. Yeah, and like you have him as a like popular professor and then that never comes, like we never see him go back to school.

Like there's so much building of this of kind of this man and where he's at. Like even the fact that you know it opens or this horrific you know, the death of his wife and daughter that kind of goes away, that has nothing to do with anything that happens once you kind of round the hour mark, which is disappointing. Yeah, yeah, because it kind of shifts into a different gear. But yeah, you're right, the disconnect of what we've already spent time doing is kind of Yeah, then you have a villain, like ultimately your villain is pretty off screen, like I because every time I also forget, I'm like, how who is the like who knows what here? And watching it this time being like, well, you know, spoiler alert, this old guy didn't really know anything and like it wasn't really his fault, but like the villain of this story has been dead for sixty years.

Yeah, so, okay, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one. No. I definitely enjoy it and it's definitely got it's really high points. There's a few like eerie freaky parts in it. True, yeah, but yeah, overall, the story doesn't deliver the way I wish it would.

Okay, good, good, let's see. Okay, I want another one that you recommended that I liked. Okay, uh. This is a director that I think you and I have both become very big fans of. Oh fun a lead actress we are both big fans of.

From the director of What Keeps You Alive? It stains the SAMs red so good. Yeah, I for me it it the last half hour maybe or disappointing. I don't think this movie sustains itself. I don't like where it goes, but it's so fun.

For so for such a long haul of it. Yeah, great new way to tell a zombie story. We've we've we've talked about that, like you're gonna make a zombie movie, either make the best fucking zombie movie you can make, or do something different with the idea of zombies. And this one does. Yeah, really ambitious and successful.

Yeah, for sure. I think to a degree, like budget wise, you can see like like the restraints around some of these movies. So I do maybe give a little bit of legal room. But for like a lower budget horror movie, absolutely hits so good, good times, very good task. I'm glad you liked it.

Oh yeah, yeah, let's see I have okay, Amazon Prime has it has its own little odd ball mess of movies, and this one, I guess a gig probably thriller, horror, whatever. But you and I have talked a lot about movies set in elevators. Mm hmmm, big fan, big fan. I'm curious if you have seen the movie just called Elevator. It's about people in an elevator.

I think I know what one this is. I think it keeps getting suggested to me. Once you watch down, you can't get away from elevator. Is it twenty twelve? Yes, yes, no, because I've watched the trailer for it, and I've almost watched it so many times.

The trailer makes it just look unapproachable. I'll say, so this is one again. You could see that there is I'm saying, there's no budget, but like, look at that cask. You recognize this? Oh?

I know. Yeah, That's why I watched the trailer because I saw people I recognize. Yeah, surely night there a bunch of faces that you know, you have seen many of these people in many things. Uh. And this is a movie set an elevator, and you can tell like they had like basically the set is the elevator.

That is ninety percent of the movie. This. I'm watching this and I'm like and it starts and I'm kind of like, fuck, okay, here's the racist comedian. Okay, here's the here's this guy. And then I'm into it, Like it turns a corner and I'm like, ooh, this is the best elevator movie I've seen.

And granted I haven't. There aren't that many of them, and none of them aren't that good, but I'm like, this one's doing it. And then it gets to the third act, and I'm like, oh, okay, I guess that's where we're going. So I had a journey with elevator sounds like it. Uh, you have to watch this movie understanding that people are idiots.

Like you just have to accept that going in. Because the bunch of people in an elevator and the elevator stops and they're like, okay, what do we do? We wade for maintenance and they're in there for like ten minutes and then it's like, hey, is anybody have a phone? They all have, and they all seem to work. None of them have a no service thing, and yet like none of them and like the guy who owns the building, like the billionaires in this elevator and like doesn't he have an assistant?

He calls to be like hey, like, if you don't get me out of this elevator, you know, I'm going to buy an island and throw people there and kill them. Like it just you have to accept that nobody seems to be able to think out of a situation. That's frustrating a little bit, but at the same time, like it it does the thing like and you have to have patience for it a little bit because you're gonna You are introduced to characters who are just awful, and the first thing they say is something racist. But the movie kind of does an interesting thing where it it puts a bunch of different people of different positions of why they're there and lets them interact in a way that like, oh, yeah, this guy was a racist asshole, but he actually is the one towards the end that makes the good point about what they should do.

Oh, this lady is actually the smart one of all of them. Like the actors are doing a lot of work, like they're all good, like and again you recognize them, You've seen them in little things, and some of them like it feels like they are like, Okay, no, hey, I'm doing stuff. I've made a character choice and I'm doing it. It peters in the ending it doesn't And I think there's there's an aspect of that that they think is the point, but it's also just very unsatisfying in how it ends. So I don't know, like it's a it's a mix, Like I don't know, people out there, if you see a movie and the title is just elevator, you kind of know like your expectations are not going to be that high and if you keep them pretty low, you're an elevator, Like you're gonna walk out of there being like you know, that was for an elevator movie called Elevator.

I was better than I thought it would be. I mean, I'm not surprised by your review. I think we've watched the trailer two or three times, like because they're like, wait a second, is this a real movie. It's confusing because there's a pregnant woman in there, and there's a pregnant woman in every elevator movie and his birth in the moon, you know. So yeah, all right, I have a few more any you wanna Do you have any elevator movies when it's around?

Sadly, this time around, I don't have any elevator movies, which is rare usually have at least. I mean, come on, I think I only have one more thing worth talking about. Okay, so we can decide when. Okay, so I'll run through some of my lesser ones. Okay, Okay, so this one I don't know how I felt about.

Only on Peacock. Peacock has a weird mix of horror movies. If you oh, definitely, Yeah, people go to Peacock and Browse horror. You're gonna find stuff. This is from two thousand and six, which, as we know, is not a great time in horror, not a great time in like low budget ish horror.

But you said two thousand and six, Yeah, that's really funny because my last movie that I want to talk about is literally a horror movie, a low budget horror movie from two thousand Does yours involve dogs? No? Okay, because it would be very funny if you also watched The Breed on Peacock, The Breed, the Breed, No, Christine, everybody is in this? Who's not in this? Who is in this movie?

Ahem? Oliver Hudson aka Kate Hudson's brother daughter going on, Eric Lively aka Blake Liveli's brother, and Rob More importantly, I think Robin Lively is half brother. Uh. Taren Manning very young post Cross Crossroads Taren Manning and the one and only Michelle Rodriguez. Wow, Okay.

A bunch of hot people go to an island where the rich boys have a cabin and there are genetically altered like German shepherds and mallenwa was that attack them? And this movie is one of those movies where you can tell like they made their movie and then realize, oh crap, our movie is only like sixty eight minutes. So let's put a prolog in. Let's stretch out the credits a bit. Let's have characters like do the thing where it's like show the character's face and a scene from the movie to say Michelle Rodriguez as Nikki and so on.

All of this being said, like, and again, you have to remember the era we're in and the era we're in today and how we're looking back at things watching it now, I'm like, for what this movie is, this is a decently made movie. Yeah, and again, so much of that comes down to, like, these characters are rich assholes, Like there's not much redeeming anything about but like, but Taron Manning is really like charismatic to watch Michelle Rodriguez gets is athletic in this movie, and like, yeah, I want to watch Michelle Rodriguez zipline with a broken leg, like you know what I mean. Like it's that where like these like when you don't always realize it because you know, this was two thousand and six. All of these actors at this point had We're not nobody's but they were still like doing a shitty horror movie, and it goes a long way because they're like, you want to watch them do things?

You know, there's uh, this is I didn't like. I assumed I was gonna watch like monster dogs, which is why I was okay with it, And very quickly I'm like, oh, no, they're dogs. But the movie like see you could tell like they're you know, these are trained dogs. There's there's a lot of things in the credits that seem to suggest no animals were harmed, but still like, if you don't want to watch you know, characters have to archery shoot dogs, then probably not the movie for you. Yeah, And again part of it was I think I watched this movie shortly after I watched something on Amazon called Blackout Experiment, which is Oh god.

It's like we've talked a lot about like bad Saw ripoffs, of which there are many, and the problem with the bad Saw ripoff is if it's if it's bad, then it's really bad. And this is one of the worst ones I've ever seen. That's that's a damning critique, I know, because you have to know, like and people out there, I've seen a lot of these a lot. The biggest problem with this one is and again, like I know I said this about Elevator, I have never seen dumber characters in a movie. These people wake up and they're all in a room and there's a voice that comes on the TV and says like, okay, you have when the clock starts ticking, one of you.

I have kidnapped somebody in your family and we're gonna kill them in fifteen minutes if you don't kill somebody else here. Okay, got the rule. And of course the first one like, yeah, okay, you don't. You don't really believe them, so you don't believe it when it happens, and it happens, and then you're like, oh my god, I my wife is dead because I couldn't kill somebody. Okay.

So now the second one comes around and you're like, okay, well now you know it's real. So either you kill someone or the person you love dies. And I understand that's not an easy choice for everybody out there. I get that, I do. The problem is when you have one character that has proven herself to be like ready to kill and they get to her and it's like the fourth person, so at this point, you know what the rules are.

They're very clear. Yeah yeah, And like one person like dies, like they have a heart attack or something, so it's like, oh, I kill them. It's like, no, you didn't technically, so therefore you're not. You know. So you get to this lady and she's like goes down to the guy.

She's like, your wife is already dead. You should kill yourself. Here's the knife, kill yourself. And he does, and she's like, see, okay, I'm good, right, And the rules are like, no, you were supposed to kill him. We're gonna kill your girlfriend because you didn't follow the rules.

Like, come on, the rules have been very clear the entire time. So it may be very angry don't watch it. There's but I wanted to be very clear about why not to watch him. Well, I U during my not knowing what to watch and not wanting to commit time to things, I rewatched Escape Room probably for like some time. So yeah, I see the appeal of wanting to watch things like that because I'm like, ah, Scape Room, Why is like Escape Room exactly?

Because Escape Room is so fucking good yea, and the characters aren't stupid, they're figure it out and they work colored and it's the only characters and it makes sense and you care about them. It's frustrating when it's not right. Yeah, yeah, okay, here's okay. I have won actually two that I really liked by the same director. So here's the thing.

As I said, I was on a plane trip recently, so I watched a lot of movies on the plane. And I don't know if you ever do this, you've flown We're like, and it's the same way people who spend hours like just flipping through like what to watch, and they get more excited by that than not. So it's really easy to get into that hole of like on the delta screen, like you just keep hitting next keeping. So what I was doing instead was I was watching a movie and then I could see the person sitting in front of me was scrolling through the movies, so I could see what was available based on like looking over their shoulder, which was very convenient. So from that gen, oh, completely take advantage of it.

From that, I saw that, oh, this movie that I have wanted to see for a while because I'd heard good things about it, and I can never find it streaming for for some reason, it's never streamed anywhere, and it is the perfect plane movie. This movie was made to be watched on a screen that is fairly small. I think you have seen this. I think you like it Searching. Oh yeah, super good and perfect plane movie.

Right you see what I mean? Yeah? Have you? So this is your first time seeing that movie? It is.

I loved it. So you need to see Missing now. I do need to see Missing? Is Missing streaming? I don't know.

I liked Missing so much better, wow, because I loved Searching and it was funny. The only thing I didn't like about it. As I was watching it, I'm like I had certain I thought there were certain character choices that I was like, are you an idiot? Like what and then realizing, oh, oh that's there for a reason because it is something. So that was very like rewarding.

It felt like, oh no, this tied everything. This this movie was. It was. It was so smart that it made me think it was dumb and then proved to be even smarter than me type thing. Yeah.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in the background too. Did you catch any of it or read anything about like the alien attack that's happening in the background. I don't think I did. Yeah, there's like news blurbs and stuff like when you know, because it's all on screen, and yeah, the different news stories and videos in the background tell like a weird story. I will I will have to.

I will watch it again at some point. Yeah, it's good. I did follow it up with the directors. I don't know if it was. I guess it was the film he made after, which I know you've seen as well, And this was on Hulu run.

Is that this Sarah Paulson, Sarah Paulson, you want to call her Sarah Pauley. Yeah, yeah, was pretty good, right, I liked it. I liked it a lot. Yeah, it was. It was a good version of that kind of movie exactly.

Yeah. I thought I had fundamentally, I had a problem with just kind of buying into how much this character knew or didn't know. I guess yeah, because there was a little bit of like world building where I'm like, I don't know that you've sold me on this character being that that sheltered like that that much that she didn't know this. But if you kind of accept that as like, nah, you got you need it for the story it I found like, I like this director's style. I think he can do tension really well.

He does character really well. He the like there was a lot there and a lot specific there that I really liked. So I enjoyed both of these movies immensely. Yeah, they're good ones. There's are good choices.

I'm I'm happy you like Searching. I really feel like people didn't didn't latch onto that one the way I had hoped. Yeah, yeah, it's a good one. All right, I have three more. Okay, okay, want I'll go through quickly because it was I was kind of on it.

Uh. This one's on Amazon Prime called Dark Nature. Oh that doesn't sound familiar at all. It might have come by your screen once or twice. It stars like the the our girlfriend Hannah Emily Anderson or Emily Han No, Hannah Emily Anderson, who was in What Keeps You Alive?

Oh yep, okaya love her. She's fantastic. I could watch her in anything. She's incredibly watchable. Uh.

This is sort of the kind of reminded me of like a combination of the Descent and Annihilation in a way that though it is like this is it's it's good, it just didn't I don't know this. We didn't like fully. It needed to be a little more. I think it's a like support like women support group that goes like with a therapist on a retreat, like hiking in the woods, and Hanna Emily Anderson has this like very you know, is getting out of an abusive relationship. So there's like a whole lot there and there in the woods everything's fine, but of course something is wrong.

There is something very bad about to happen, and I don't know it's it doesn't quite like I wanted more because I loved the setup. I was excited for this. It's a female writer director, Like, there's a lot there that I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, be really good. I want this to be really good and it does cool things. It just the pacing feels weird.

So it didn't satisfy me. But I don't think it's It's not bad by any means. It just didn't There was something missing that didn't quite get me. And I don't know where it was or if it was just me or what. But so like kind of a very very mild recommend.

I guess yeah on Amazon on Amazon. Yeah, another one on Amazon. This God, I hope you've seen if not, stop everything and watch Rudger Hower. Pete postlewait, Kim Katrell. Do you know this?

I don't think so. I want to say that I do, but I'm not sure. Set in the Future, two thousand and eight, London, Hold on, Okay, this movie is a blast. Nineteen ninety two's Split Second. You know, I think that this is waiting in the queue for us to watch.

It's so much fun, Zach split Second. Yeah, that's literally one of the next movies. It's a blast. I don't really understand what happens in this movie. I don't fully understand, like what's going on.

All I needed to know is that Rudger Hower is playing a character named Harley Stone, and he wears sunglasses inside and he has a scene where he's assigned a new partner and he says, I work alone where his you know, his lieutenant has to open up a drawer and give him back his gun. And where I kid you not the moment. I was already pretty high on the movie and then this happens. There's a moment Rudgar Hower, I believe he's wearing sunglasses. He is brushing his teeth with one hand holding a cigarette in the other hand, and when he spits, After he spits out and drops his toothbrust he wishes his mouth with coffee.

Yeah, obviously, obviously this is joyous. There's like a giant rat monster kind of killing people in London. Second giant rat. You're right, it's a big ring for giant rats. Who knew.

Yeah, that's exciting. This is a blast. It's it's very nicety ninety two, low budget. It feels like a cannon film, but I don't think it is. It's I'll have a good time.

Yeah, I'm gonna It'll get probably watched this week, so next time we talk, yes, then I have. My last one was this. I was on a episode of Projection Booth. I don't think it's come out yet, but I think it's coming out soon. And this was a movie I had never heard of.

And it's shocking because once I saw it, I'm like, how is this not discussed more? It is not easily available anywhere, which is a shame. It's not streaming and I don't even think it has a US video release. But it is directed by the same man who made Funeral Parade of Roses. Oh fun it was his film after that.

This is Shura, which I think translates to demons so Japanese. So it's like nineteen seventy one, I think is the year. It's set in, like feudal samurai time, and it's good. It is very different from funeral preative Roses, but the kind of it's also black and white. There's style going on in a very different way.

It was a really interesting movie to talk about. So please everybody check up an episode when it's available. But I would like it's a shame that this doesn't isn't easily watchable. Yeah, it doesn't look like it's around right, No, and that's a shame because it's it's something very special and very different. So hopefully people can find it one day, hopefully we'll get a release.

What was your final one? Well, yeah, so I decided to write about a movie that I loved very much, so that involved me having to rewatch it. Exciting. I've probably talked about it before, but to speak to what you were saying about how sometimes we go back and we watch things and we go, wow, is this way better than it had any right to be? So this is the two thousand and six direct to video third installment of the I Know What You Did Last Summer series, which would be I'll always at Summer And I've still never seen this one.

I feel like it was super easy to find streaming for a while, and then when I went to rewatch it for this, I had to pull out my DVD because I couldn't. I could have rented it, but like it wasn't. I thought it should be, like, why is it not on Freebe? Why is it on do Be? Like it feels like it should be really available completely, But I rewatched the first two, like so if you don't know, I Know What You Did Last Summer is obviously a movie.

And then the second one is a direct sequel to the first one and Jennifer f Hewitt and Freddy Prince Junior in both. But then the third one comes out and it is seeminglycompletely unrelated with a whole new cast of characters. One of them is actually Spencer's sister, Yes, and she's really fun and weird in this it's a very strange movie. It's extremely low budget, but it's overwhelmingly charming in what way, like what do you the way you said? It feels like it's it's better than it should be for that era.

Curious what that means exactly. So I don't want to spoil why I love it so much, but it it's aggressively weird, where the where the first two movies aren't really weird, they're just pretty straightforward slashers. This isn't that. But also like a lot of the kills, like a lot of the murder is very it's very gross, but also practical, Like there's a lot of weird effects, and and the setting is really strange. It's in a ski lodge off season, like all closed please.

It's all these things that like you would do to your low budget two thousand and six horror movie that are really ambitious, like these big fat kills in this weird setting and like turning the franchise on its head with like a different angle. Nice, but like also it's not good. But they also probably wear like chunky shoes, and like I can see like the like they're all on tank tops. Like it probably has that early two thousands feel that is very weirdly comforting today. Low Yeah, thick belts, leather cuffs, yeah, yep, all those things that do not flatter somebody who was five to one and Cheby by the way.

I mean, no one looked good in it, like the six people trying to sell it to you looked good in it. And then that was it. That's the thing about like a fashion of any era generally, like if you call up the big style like it's it's you know, fashion starts on models who have a very particular frame, and that doesn't translate to everybody type. But there was something about like that fashion that to me was like when I look back, I'm like, man, I'm glad I never even tried. Yeah, it's not flattering, but yeah, I don't again don't think it's that great, but wholesome in a weird way.

I guess, Oh well, how nice and what a fitting way? Now, where can we read what you've written about it? It will be published at some point and then I will probably put it on social media somewhere, but it'll be over at Certified Forgotten, which is a great a great site if you're not aware, and they cover stuff that we like, which is weird stuff that no it too. Yeah. Yeah.

When I was on their podcast, I talked about Population four three six, which is the Jeremy Sistom movie that also has Fred Durst in it, So yes, it does. I feel like between you and me, we're two of the four hundred and thirty six people who've seen that movie. Yeah, and on that podcast, I believe I said it was a better movie than Midsummer So wow, shots fired, shots fired, diaster, I can get pretty bold when I'm talking about. Nothing wrong with that. Okay, Well, speaking of socials, where can people find you question Mark if you want them to, and if it does social exist anymore?

Not for me? Really, if you want to, you can google my name and that'll send you places and you should because you should buy Christine's books. Yeah, thank you, that's nice. What about you? I mean again, Yes, you can find me on an episode that will air at some point on Projection Booth.

You can find me at Deadly Doll's House dot com, where I still post writings weekly and then I don't know, like I've stopped doing anything on Twitter or and still cool Twitter bub bla. Because it seems like you can't have conversations. I don't think you can have conversations on Blue Sky. There's no there's no conversations happening. Like you say something, there's nothing you jump into somebody and say something to them, and then you can't see when other people have replied to what you have said.

So like, what what is this world anymore? It's still back to Facebook and nobody wants to be on Facebook. No no, no, no, no no no. But we do have a group there. Yeah, I've heard that.

I know. Well, we will be back at some point with something specific. Perhaps maybe we can talk about Lisa Frankenstein. That's true. That's a good idea because I need to watch it.

I have not know and it's on Peacock so it's easily streamable today. We should do that. I don't know. We'll kick around, idea. That's kicking around all right, excellent, And in the meantime, remember we will always know what you did the summer before.

That was the other confusion of those titles, right, Oh, so I know what you did last summer. I still know what you did last summer. But that's not right because now it's a summer after, so it should have been I still know what you did two summers ago, but now I'll always know what you did last summer. Like so every summer I'm gonna know what she did. I think, think about it.

No, I think yeah, and I think we're notes were really just like I still know, like the notes didn't really differentiate a timeline. It was the you're right though. I'm just I'm just saying not not to you know. I don't want to be that person that comes in it's like, oh you like this thing. This part is stupid.

But now apparently I am the very title and foundation on which it's found. It doesn't make sense you should embrace this. I'm going to become a movie bully who just complained about grammar. Just when I thought I couldn't get cooler people, I found a way. All right, Well, folks, take care, goodbye.

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