179. Year of the Catchup

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Don't be Christine. Yeah, there's Sarah catching up on some stuff. Yeah, what kind of stuff? Are we catching up on? Newer movies?

That I was kind of disappointed and for. Me, Oh, I think that happens often here. Hey, look for every five that don't work, one is a revelation, and okay, what we have to do to find it? I think that is fair. And I'm excited actually because I have I would say I have.

I say, I don't even know if it's a revelation because it's such an obvious one. But I have like one really exciting new one. I have one that left me pleasantly surprised after others have also not left me pleasant. So yeah, I got some new stuff, I got some old stuff, I got some very random stuff. So, uh, you want to start through something out of me?

Sure, I don't know if you want to break things like into. Buckets, but like fan of buckets. I think most of mine are horror like by by a large margin. Majority of mine are as well. Okay, cool, I So I hate when I do this, but I'm gonna do it.

Anyways. Did I talk about the Watchers the night shot? You did? Yes? I think you were kind of on it.

Kind of on it, but I figured we talked about that. So that leads me to a movie I saw on to be I think it was a to be original. And it's not so much that I'm recommending this, And if I already talked about it, I apologize. But it's called you Shouldn't Have Let Me In, and it's a vampire movie. It's a good good title.

During a bachelorette party in Italy, a group of girls invite a handsome stranger into their home. Ah, this was I'm finding a lot of enjoyment and kind of like, hey, guys, you you just made a movie, good for you guys kind of movies, and this really feels like it's hard to make a movie. I'm really impressed with you in a. Good way for this one. You found it enjoyable in that way.

It is. Not anything interesting, not anything relevatory or different or like breaking any molds, blown any mind, but like it is, it is a very simple kind of idea executed in a decent way. And I think they really are in Europe, so like the cast is like you know, when you have a cast, you're like, oh, that might have been a local hire, or it's like you're in a weird house and you're like, huh, this is a strange place to choose to shoot. This is definitely somebody's mom that was on vacation and they said, yeah, sure you can fill in the movie. Just don't break anything.

Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, we were able to rent this old villa for really cheap for no reason, but it has that energy and I was very charmed by it for some reason, so I wanted to mention it. It's nice. I have two that were definitely good for you made a movie, but also nobody should really watch it. Oh okay, so I will say I think two B has like is such a good little gold mine of like a junk drawer where you find stuff. So you go to any story and you rumble at like they have like just like the jar of keys or like marbles, and you're just shifting through and you find some good stuff.

I never do two B. I just don't think to do to be because of the ads when I have access to others that don't. So I have one from Amazon Prime and one from Peacock, but both were definitely made for uh change that was found in between seat cushions. One. I'm gonna give bonus points for the title.

Okay, it's on Peacock and let me see if you can guess it. So, if you want to make a horror movie about a murderous uber driver, what do you think you could call it? Uber? No? Like, what do we call uber lyft?

Like? What are those services called? Oh? Did you watch ry? I watched rides Scare.

I love like there's a ride share one and there's spree. Oh I really like that style of movie. Yeah, I'm gonna say that that into every genre, something very bad happens. This is not good or this is very very it's very cheap. You can tell.

It's the kind of thing where like the you know, the sound is echoing a bit, so you know right away of like, Okay, this is not professional. That's finals to go to try. And the problem I had was that it was just it was mean, like it was one thing to not be a good movie. I can handle that. But then it had a really mean ending that just made me angry, because if you're gonna make me watch something not good, at least, you know, I don't know, give me some good for her noess, But this does the complete opposite.

So I didn't like that. And then there's another slightly slightly higher budget, like you know, maybe they actually didn't need roles of quarters and had actual bills to make. This was on Amazon and it has one of those titles that you know, is a title that makes it really easy to write a review that puns on it, because the movie is called Don't Look Away. Oh, and of course you. Know that's a very generic title.

Yeah, And I had to write down in parentheses mannequin because I knew I would forget what this movie actually was. It's about a mannequin. If you look at the mannequin. Then the mannequin is going to haunt you and kill you, but doesn't. It's kind of like an Annabel mannequin.

It doesn't actually do anything. It just sort of is there and then you turn around and then you fall off a building. H I like that bad. This one bother because I was like this, this could be working. Okay, this is you know, it's refer on the edges, but it's a good idea.

You know, you don't get many mannequin things going on. It is. I don't like to say bad, like talk about bad acting in a low budget movie, because it is often not the actor's fault. They are being directed, they are being rushed. Often the director does not know how to get a performance out of somebody.

And it may be that they were perfectly good in the performance, but that it's not framed right. This is a case where it's like, oh no, these are just really bad young actors. So that's a that's don't look away, I will. I would look. Away, Okay, look away.

Well that's so fun. We I have another one, and I think it was a two B movie. This one I whereas you shouldn't have let me in? I think is what it was called was like, oh man, you guys were so close. This one was like, oh man, you guys like kind of did it.

It's called Model House, and it's not about a model house. It's about a model house, like it's filled with models. Oh okay, okay, either one. I was kind of into. I'm not gonna lie.

It would have been better if it was about both, like, oh, it's a model house and a model happens to live there. Well, I really kind of we'll talk about it again because I have another one kind of on my list in this genre. But I kind of like, there's Margo the House one. I didn't see it, but I remember you talking about it. And then there's like Deborah, which is like that, and I kind of like that.

So when I first clicked on this, I thought it was like a like a smart house kind of movie, and I was like, okay, model house, this is like And then I was like, oh, this is a house about so it's a five swimsuit models staying together in a secluded house. And I was like, okay, wait, I think actually this is even better. This is a brilliant idea. It is very it has some social media angles Okay. Also Scout Tailor Compton, isn't.

It who's quite a like she just basically does horror movies, which I like, Yeah. And so like she's not one of the models. She's like one of the one of the bad guys, which is cool. So like but like also she's not in it enough. And yeah, so like it's a little this was a bit of a flat line.

But again, making movies is hard. Getting movies made is in a pomplishment. This movie is kind of bold and like it's really swinging at something. And Ryan Ryan Merriman is also in it. He was the boy in Final Destination three.

Okay, he was on as well. Yeah, yeah, you so, like you can see it with like Scout in it and Ryan Merryman. It's made for a little more money than Ride Scared. Yeah, we're really trying to get some like ground this in reality where movies are real things. And I appreciated all of that.

It was it was a lot of fun, but like ultimately not really blowing any minds. And also some of the models were very very pretty, so like if you that it doesn't let down in that regard. So I again trying to celebrate some lower budget stuff that maybe didn't reinvent anything, but you know, you could wait, you could waste time in a worse way in this it's only eighty five minutes Model House. I will watch the It sounds like it is very much a lot of things that I will enjoy in a movie like that. Yeah, And you know, I like when things you utilize social media in a way that's not like like pretending it's something else or pretending it doesn't exist.

And this movie manages to like kind of be like these are famous models, they would have access to people and mm hmm and stuff. I don't know. It was interesting. So if you watch it, hopefully you don't hate it. I will.

I'll give it a try. I'm intrigued. Okay, cool on, Okay. I'm going to take a movie that uses social media in an interesting way, which is not the way I would lead with this movie. But it's a good, you know transition here.

So because in this movie, there is a character who mentions his Instagram account, and the movie did a thing where like they actually did make an Instagram account for the character and there's like six posts, but they are hilarious, and that in itself like almost redeemed this movie for me, which was a bit disappointing to me, ended up doing like a double billing of David Cronenberg's kids movies, and so this one is his daughter, Caitlin's first movie Humane. It is on shutter. Now, do you know anything about this movie? No, but I don't watch anything Cronenberg like as just like like a personal choice. I don't care wh what child it is.

Anybody with the last name Cronenberg is out for you. Well because Brandon right, yep, Okay, he does stuff too that I don't like. I don't like being reminded that we're bags of meat. Any filmmaker that does that, I say, you know what, I appreciate it. Not for me, friend, Okay, okay, very interesting.

Does this make you think about how you're a bag of meat? No? This this movie is of all of the Kronenberg movies of both Dad, brother sister. This is the least body horror version any of anything. This is really not body horror at all.

It's a good concept, it doesn't Here's the problem with this movie. It is sort of a near future where there is overpopulation and resources are dying and so on. But it's a very like, this is not a very small story where within the world, within this country or actually no, it is the whole world. A great concept. The concept is the world has agreed each country is trying to reduce its population by twenty percent, and the way they are doing that is by like, I forget what they call it, not conscription, but like volunteering to you know, serve your country and enlist.

And enlisting means you are going to be You're being executed, You are getting you know, somebody's gonna come up to your house inject you with something. You die, You collect your your kin, your whoever you designate as a person inheriting money gets like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and you have helped do your job. And in this case it is a very rich and powerful family led by Peter Gallagher, who we do not celebrate enough. Oh I love Peter Galla. Yeah so great.

Yeah every time he's and he's the shame of this and this isn't really a spoiler, is that he has gone pretty quickly in this movie because he's so good. And he has four kind of terrible children of aarring sorts, who all are sort of the high powered failures in different ways, and they essentially want the He enlists for him and his wife, who then runs away, so it's, oh, no, somebody else has to enlist today. And what's his name from? Just Shootney Enrico col and Tiny. He's so good in this.

He shows up, is he's the guy like he's like, you know, the blue collar guy who shows up and basically is like the guy that shoots you up with poison. And he's there and he's like, all right, well I need to collect somebody. And meanwhile he also is he's the one who has a social media account. So it's very funny. That in itself is very good.

The problem with this movie is that I watched it far too close to having watched Mike Flanagan's follow The House of Usher, which it's a really similar family makeup to these kids of one is a powerful executive and and so on, and like it just doesn't it. It should work on Like there's things that are there story wise that should work, but I just don't think the movie gets there. I don't think the characters are interesting enough. It's good actors, but I don't think they get to show much of what they can do. So it was ultimately disappointing to me because I've I've heard a lot of like exciting things about it.

I watched it, I'm like, you know, this was fine, but didn't didn't do what I would have liked it to do. Yeah, yeah, I get, I get what you're saying. And then I also watched Infinity Pool, which is a the other Cronenberg Child's movie, and I had seen I've seen I've seen these others too. I've seen what were they anti Viral and. I think we watched anti Viral for the oh right, I think we did.

Yeah, And so I think that's the only Brandon maybe I've even seen, and that one wasn't. I didn't find that one like upsetting. I don't think. I mean, rewind the tapes and go back and look, maybe I did, but I don't recall it. But like, I won't watch Infinity Pool, like I just decided I won't.

There's just so many of that. I just said, no, I'm not gonna watch. Yeah, this just didn't get there for me. I think, uh, part of it was I think if you know, I knew the plot had been explained in any like even if you try to avoid anything, like, you know roughly what's going to happen, so when you get there very quickly and then you realize have another hour and a half of what now? Yeah?

Uh, Mia Goth is great. I know she sounds kind of like a monster, but my god, is she interesting on screen, especially when she gets to play a very over the top character. So that was great. I think I find Alexandra Scar's guard generally somebody who looks really good on camera, but who can very easily not be that interesting on camera. So this, yeah, I mean, if you're a completest, it's it's interesting.

It does do things that other movies don't, but this didn't really get there for me. Interesting. Oh well, I'm glad you watched it so I didn't have to. I do what I can for you. Thank you, thank you.

Yeah. Am I allowed to talk about thrillers of course, so this is a twofer because you can't talk about them without talking about the other one. And also, you may have watched these movies and told me to watch them, so if I didn't listen to you, I apologize. So I watched twenty eighteen's The Bad Seed, twenty two is The Bad Seed returns. Wait a minute, wit minute, there's a Bad Seed for Wait wait wait wait, okay, okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, because first of all, you were talking about the Robblo directed Bad Seed, written by the woman who wrote Wish upon Right.

Yes, I want I should stop this recording and have my husband come into this room so he can so I can say to him, Hey, what was the movie I told you this morning was actually better than it had any right to be. And he's gonna say, oh, are you talking about that Bad Seed remake that was written by the woman who wrote wispond Because I'm not kidding. Six hours ago I was telling him about that movie. Yep, it was so good. I did not know they did your second one, Oh my God, with McKenna grace.

Yep. So I gave both of them five stars. But I do think the first one I enjoyed more. Yeah, but I come on, I very much enjoyed the second one. And on the poster, McKenna grace looks a lot like oh my gosh, please forgive me the ginger snap that was on Catherine Isabelle.

Thank you, my brain Swiss cheese. I see it so much like Catherine Isabel. For a long time, I didn't know what this movie was. And then I was like, wait, that's McKenna Grace. I did.

I can't believe I didn't know they made a sequel. You're welcome. Yeah, very good. Oh my god, I am. I am so excited.

I had a female writer director on this one. Yes, that very, so, very exciting stuff. I had a feeling you had seen and talked about the twenty eighteen one, and then I posted about it on I think Instagram and I think James Listener and friend James said something about it and I was like, this is fully an Emily Them style movie. But like I so, I knew you had talked about it, but I don't know why. It just I had that feeling for like kind of like a let's just put it on on a Saturday afternoon and see like what this lifetime esque movie is.

And I'm like, no, this is amazing. So you watched watch them in order? You watched the first one, on the second one, okay, yeah, the first one, it's again the first one. Yeah, it's a remake of there were other remakes about Seed, but it does a twist. It gives it instead of it being about a mom and daughter.

It's the dad and daughter, so has like this whole other layer of things going on. It is a good script. It's the same woman who I keep meaning to look up to see what else she's been doing because we both really loved Wish to Upon too, so like she's got the goods when it comes to writing a movie like this. McKenna Grace is wonderful. I am so thrilled that they made a sequel because I did not know that.

Yeah, I think McKenna grace, if she's not a producer on the first one, I'm pretty sure she's a producer on the second one. She was really No, she was really young. On the first one she was still in like like she was still a little girl. How old is she now? I mean she's working pretty damn steady.

You're right. She has a writing credit on the returns. This My Heart just grew with three sizes. She has a story credit and a writing credit. Oh my god, officially, like fully a McKenna gray stand at this point, Like, what a weird choice, What an audacious, fun choice?

How wonderful? Because it is I mean, she's been acting since she was very little, right, like she's in like she's the tiny tiny itan ya like she's and she's been around and she's done a lot of genres and a lot of horror. She probably, you know, maybe has a good agent or manager who said like, hey, you've got Elaine here, stick to it. But she's fantastic. And I did not know she was producing when she is only probably what like twenty one or something.

Now, yeah, she's very young, so I don't remember exactly what, but I looked it up too, like wow, good for her, and. I just I love the idea that she did The Bad Seed when she was probably like twelve thirteen and was like I had a good time. Yell, okay, I have things. I have ideas for that character that is wonderful. Huh yeah, good time.

Oh what a world? What a you know? You know this. People want to want to say it's a bad business, but but come on, you. Know, I know, I know it is very that watching those movies made me very happy.

Like it's just not because they were necessarily great or fun. They were, but like just like you're like, wow, cool cool things for getting made. Yes, yeah, yeah for you. Oh that makes me. It's my heart just it just warmed it.

Yeah, I hope we'll watch it. Let me know what you think. Oh, definitely, definitely. Uh, I didn't know existed. So now I'm like, it's taking all of my might to not be like, yeah, Christine, I gotta go.

I have a call, and you just go. That's it. I haven't watched anything else. It's just that, all right. So another movie with a you know here, here's one with a big child actor performance of a kid who I don't know if he did anything else after this, because I feel like I have not seen him around.

But Brandon had never seen the American Ring, so we watched the Ring. Well, so, oh boy, what did he think about it? He liked it was kind of just basically where he landed of it being I think it felt it felt long to him, and and it is it is. The pacing of that movie is Watching it for me was very much such a window of Wow, this is a different time in film. It's a different time in horror.

It's a different time in what an audience is going to sit through for a movie like this, which is, you know, a wide broad audience for horror, but a PG. Thirteen horror. And to think like this is a detective story, and very little actually happens in this movie for most of its running time. It's wild. But he I think he liked it basically what he said, he liked it more than the Japanese film, which he had seen a long time ago and remembered nothing about.

And I think for him, the reason this worked was was Naomi wants and I agree completely. Well, yeah, if this works at all, And that guy she hangs out with is that guy from Things. I like him. Martin Anderson always felt like a less He always felt like like Vigo Mortensen's more traditional brother. I like him.

He's good and stuff. He plays a kind of a thankless type of that male role, like masculine role. Well, I guess so I like it. I obviously like her, like I kneel down at the alster. Of malely Watch.

Yeah, but like that movie for me, so I have a weird relationship with that movie. For a very long time, I wouldn't watch scary movies because I didn't like to be scared, and I didn't really differentiate between horror movies and scary movies. To me, every movie was a scary movie, or it could be a scary movie and I didn't want to be scared, and and my mom very much watched this movie and then said like I was so scared, like I couldn't sleep, like I got scared coming down to get a drink in the middle of the night, Like I was terrified because of this movie. So it was very much built up to be like, oh, this is this. If you avoid getting scared, you don't watch this movie because it's too scary.

And then when I finally watched it, I was like, wait a minute, it's not scary. And not only was it not scary, like it was like almost like it's the fear and it was almost blunted, like there was nothing even remotely scary about it, but like it still has cool visuals, and the fact that it's all like greens and blues is so weird. It is a specific color palette, definitely. YEP, and then the and then also it's in in the PNW and like a fucking horse jumps off a ferry like a faery that I used to ride, like all that stuff. The visuals are really like cool and interesting, but I don't for me, the whole is not as great as it's individual parts because the parts there are parts that are good, but then like the whole overall is a little like.

I agree, I agree, it doesn't. I remember Roger Ewer's review and him saying the movie should have ended with when the boy says you let her out, and it should have just ended there. That like even having the next scene of realizing her coming out of the TV just is silly and this and that that and it is because it is just so weirdly structured. I think that's what I kept coming back to, was that it plays out like a detective story. It's an investigation, and yet these kind of big sequences that sort of hit and then there's a lot in between.

I don't know, it's it's very odd. It is if you haven't seen it in years, it's worth watching just to think of, like how this sort of rerouted horror for a little bit. Absolutely, it really set a tone and like, obviously there's good stuff in it, But then I don't remember which scary movie it is. Somebody yelled out, there's a scary movie that deeply like parodies ye, and it's so funny because what it chooses to make fun of is like it's perfect. Sometimes like those scary movie movies take shots at things or satirized things, and you're like, well that like, I don't care that was, but the Ring stuff is like, oh boy, you had the same problems with The Ring that I did.

I have never actually sat through a scary movie. The first one is it didn't age good. Yeah, it is kind of gross and upsetting in some ways. Anna Faris is just amazing. But then even when you get to the point where Anna Faris is out and like Simon Rex, isn't it he Simon Rex is like a main character and all the the Ring parodies it's very funny.

If so, I can't I can't recommend some of the scary movies enough. Nice who knew? On that note, I did watch something that I guess falls in that sort of Is it a horror? Is it a comedy? We watched The Blackening.

Mmm, I liked it. I liked it a lot. Yeah, I mean I laughed throughout it. I thought it was clever. I found it surprising.

Although I will say, like I won't spoil anything, but the reveal I in my brain called out very early. But that's just a that's fine. I don't mind that. If it didn't it didn't take any like shock away from me. It was just more like, yeah, that seemed like that's the only thing that would have made sense.

So yeah, yeah, I don't. I think I was a little bit forgiving because like it was never trying to like, it wasn't about that. Yeah, but I think it's on my list to rewatch in October because there's some newer stuff that I feel like, like Cobweb is another one, Like I feel like I need to see some of these again to like settle in with them. I guess. Yep, I still don't watch Cobweb.

I know it's on Hulu, so I will get to it soon. Yeah, I remember again like really liking it, but I'd like to look at it with fresh eyes and see if it's still hits. That way understood. I don't know if you've seen this movie, and I won't talk about it if you haven't. It's Long Legs.

I have not seen Long Legs. I was trying to build up to it, and then I was like, give me if you because I will watch it as soon as it hits streaming. I just didn't make an effort to go out to it. But so we'll come back to that when I do, But do you want to give me at least your thumbs? Where's your thumb?

Siss it? Perfect? Really? Maybe my favorite os Perkins? Actually no, h the Pretty Thing that Lives in the House is my favorite.

Which is I still have not seen that one. But this is this is amazing. I have to watch it again. And I keep saying that because like it's just like I don't know, I had a when you watch it, you I couldn't help but try to like puzzle it out, and I don't like doing that, but I wasn't doing it, and like a like A, this isn't going well and I want to gain this. You were just engaged in a way where you were actively thinking on it as watching, and I would.

Like to not do that when I understood it. So I'm going to rewatch it. And so I kind of again rewind the tapes I probably said when I watched Gretel and Hansel that I had a problem with like the the last like minute of it kind of ruined the whole movie. There's again like the when I say the end of this movie, I literally mean the last two to three minutes. It's like, wait, did I do I hate this.

Now, I don't know what about Oz Perkins that he he will end his movies in a way that go like, wait a second, I hate this movie. But it's not his fault or anything. It's just the way that he tells stories for some reason, like hits me a weird way. But I was trying to be forgiving with it in this movie because I don't necessarily think it like undid anything or undermined anything. I just don't get what he's trying to say sometimes interesting, And that's how I felt at the end of this.

I went, wait a. Minute, what did I just watch a story about? But not in a bad way necessarily, just in a like did I connect with this the same way that I thought I did kind of way. It's exciting because I have not seen it. I assumed if I had to make a prediction, I thought you were not gonna like it, just based on people who, because I've managed to avoid knowing too much about it, which I'm surprised, but it seems like and it seems like very lover hate and people who's and I can't remember who specifically, but I feel like Moore have swung on the like nah side, and I was like, Yeah, Christen's probably probably didn't like it, but that's exciting that you liked it.

Yeah, it felt like Silence of the Lambs fan fiction. That's all I'll say. Which is a good thing to me. That's a good thing me too. Like it felt like there was a clear understanding of what we were trying to accomplish, and I felt very safe the whole time and very well taken care of in the story.

Okay, so big recommend I can't wait for you to watch it. Oh, how exciting. I'll pull up another newish one that I did not know how I would feel about because I it came out it around the same time as the last omen that everybody went crazy for and I thought was not good at all. Oh my god, I watched that too. I liked it.

I liked it a lot. It. No, I really did it. It was doing something. It reminded me of Honeymoon a little bit.

Really, Okay, I could see that, all right. It just gave me that energy, and like I watching it, I could feel a lot of the references, Like there's a lot of like Possession, the film Possession. That like the concept of possession, the film Possession in it. There was a lot of firewalk with me in it. It felt very Lynchian.

It was like really dark and there was a lot of swings. I liked it a lot, but I don't know that I connected with it like on like I don't think I'm gonna rewatch it, like you know how often I rewatched The Turning. That's a movie that I connected with, like on a cellular level. I don't know that I I felt that way about it, but I definitely enjoyed it. Fascinating Amulet, you know, Abraham.

I thought it was a. Like a lesser ambulant. I mean, like if Amulet was a you know, was something I was hanging around my neck then omen whatever The final prequel, whatever the name of it was to me was like, oh, this was a charm necklace I got from a vending machine. I don't know, I go a little a little thin, a little thin. Like the ending made me laugh out loud, and I wasn't sure if it was supposed to uh like the final beat of that movie.

I was like, wait, really were like did they not do what? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I know, Okay, we just finished it yesterday, so it's very fresh. Zach had a bit of a problem with the the brutalization of female bodies. Like I was trying, like, we all know what we're watching.

It is essentially like about rape, right, Like so I get what he's saying, but like, also, that's what the movie's about, and it's kind of for me. If you don't want that, then you're you literally should not have sat down to watch this movie. But I did see what he was saying. There's a an amulet, there is there is a danger, there is a there is like a sexual assault component to hanule it. But like I feel like it's it's it's handled in a way that didn't didn't give me those same feelings, which I appreciated because I am fully aware of the brutalization of female bodies.

I've had one for over forty years. I don't know that I need to like check in and see about it. Like but I understand again, it's a it's a movie about like forced birth. Like I get it. I get like, you can't really do all that stuff without doing that without having that, So.

Let let me ask you then the follow up, because the movie that I was gonna compare it to was the one that I was surprised by how much I enjoyed. Did you see immaculate? No, not yet. We went on a bit of a like a weird religious horror like thing, and we even joked, oh, is this the one we should do next? Yes, I love it.

I was really surprised because again I knew it was a hit, but I also knew the Omen was a hit, and I thought like, Okay, well, oh here's another movie that everybody, you know, the normy seemed to love and so on. Everybody said it was, you know, shocking, it goes in places you don't expect, and I figured like, oh, sure it does, and this one goes crazier. I think it. I thought it was. I connected much better to it.

It has a pretty surprisingly brutal, satisfying ending that I was fully on board for. I thought Allison Sweeny was tremendous and yeah, I mean, I know, like she's very charismatic, she's very sexy, like she knows how to kind of be a star, but she's also, I didn't know this, a really good actor. She's great in it. So and she was a producer on it and apparently like auditioned for it years earlier, and it didn't get made then, like when she came back to it after like basically having clout of I can open a movie now really was involved in the production of it. That's cool and that all of that made me so happy.

But I was really surprised by how much of this worked for me, especially in comparison to how much the omen did not. So I am really excited for you to watch this to see maybe we're on totally different pages or if this works for you better. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna prioritize it because I'm trying to It's getting dark a little bit earlier so I can fit in a movie, yes, when I'm more awake, instead of trying to start when at ten pm, so it's been easier to tackle maybe a bit more of the challenging stuff. Uh huh, I get that and get that. I'm excited to look at it.

Yeah all right. Yeah, Hey, I watch a movie called Trap. Oh I think did I talk about it? I think you did? You said it was great, right, you really liked it?

Or am I mis remembering? Look it's I watched a bunch of m Night Shyamalan and adjacent movies to get geared up for this. This is if you don't know, it's a Josh Hartnett at a concert movie. Did I like this movie? No?

Oh? Is this movie fascinating? Is ever? It's like fascinating like every M Night movie is? It's like m Night, what are we doing?

What is your what is your thesis? Statement? Here? It's very strange. The suspension of disbelief is is the limit does not exist?

Like this is movie. This movie doesn't exist in reality, which is which I'm beginning to find that M. Knight doesn't care, like none of this movies exist in reality, so like whatever. Also the way that it ends, I'm like, oh, is this part of like the Unbreakable franchise. Josh Hartnett is amazing if you're into watching him, like it'll be worth worth the price of admission.

There's like the sub the plot is about like a killer guy. The trailers give that away right away. But they're at a concert and like the performer I think is M. Knight's daughter. I thought it was like a niece or something, but I think I read it was his daughter, like and there's it's filled with pop songs like her pop songs and like pretty longish scenes of the performance itself.

Is she like trying to have a pop career and this was this actually less a movie about a movie to be made a movie and more of a way of getting record records. Look, I can't weigh in on that, but like maybe I'm sure what the motivation or what the chicken or the egg situation was with it, Like, but all the music in it is her music, and she has like an alter ego, Lady Raven, and that's like the character in the movie is Lady Raven. It's it's confounding. I do want to see this. I've heard enough about it to make me intrigued.

You should, It's not I would never say it's bad, but at this point I don't know that I would call any m night movie bad. We just rewatched The Happening, and every time it's like, this is this, but it's bad and like a what are you guys doing? Kind of what It's like bad in a different way than Ride Scare is bad. Right, It's bad in a way where everybody in this movie has like there's money in every frame of this movie, and everybody in this movie knows how to make a movie. It just feels like that is a movie deliberately made to make it seem like nobody knows how to make a movie.

It's this one has feelings of that. It is almost like, have you guys ever like talked to people? Right? Do you know how how humans interact with one another? Yes?

Agreed, but like I would never, I will probably rewatch it at some point. It's weird and strange and you could have a lot less fun watching a movie. I think there very fair. Let's see if oh my god, I'm getting all these Skype AI messages that I am not asking for. So if you keep hearing a little bloop bloop, that is Skype's AI system trying to tell me that it can help me.

No, you're making my life harder right now. But anyway, I digress. Let's see. Oh, okay, that's a good a good segue to a movie about maybe evil technology taking us over. So.

I don't know if you've watched any of un Shutter. There's a there was a like five episode, uh talking head series Called's Greatest. I don't typically watch those. Yeah, it's it didn't there was. I thought there was one really good episode.

I thought that the episode on Jay horror was interesting because it was people who I maybe was not feeling familiar with talking about Japanese horror and having like some nuance and cultural insight that I didn't necessarily have. But as we saw that that was the next episode, I said to brand and you know they're gonna talk about Pulse, and you still have not seen Pulse, and I would like to show you Pulse Paulse or Cairo in the Japanese. This is a movie I have kind of had to. I watched it several times, and kind of every time I revisited, I have a very different take on it and feeling on it. The first time I watched it, to me, was one of the scariest movies ever made.

It kind of lost a bit of that the second time. This time I was really into it. Brannon was not, and that was disappointing, But I still love him and I will not divorce him over it. He just didn't didn't work for him at all. Didn't work for him at all.

He was bored. He didn't understand, which I get. Like there is a weird like commitment to not like having its characters be very vague and non specific, so it really is hard to decipher who's who and what the relationships are. To me, that is part of the movie and part of the kind of weird eeriness of it. But it just did not work at all for him.

And I get that if if that doesn't hit, then what what has maybe left for a person? And then it's very boring at that point because it is very quiet and it is moody, and it is just you know, long shots that if you're not feeling it, then you're just sitting there saying how much longer is this movie? So I get it. I get it. For me this time around, it worked really well, but oh well.

I still haven't seen it really correct. Wow, I know, h have you seen the American remake? Yep, I had a feeling you had. Yeah. We talked about it and you were like, you need that's right, but the real world, and I was like, ma'am, I'm too afraid.

Well, I mean you just told you. I didn't watch The Ring for like twenty years because I was too afraid. If Brannon can handle it, I think you can, you might also be bored by it, so it might. Not actually worth You've described it semi at length and like it sounded genuinely disturbing. I think it's upsetting.

I think it is very much a movie about loneliness. I think it is about disconnect. It does a thing, it does a thing that you love that I love that. I don't want to say because it kind of gives something away. But let's just say it is bigger than you think it is.

Yeah, because the remake ends with that kind of like like leaning and you're like, no, no, no, the original fully does it. And I was like, oh, okay, because the remake is like Kristen Bell and Jonathan Tucker's in it, but he's not build at all. That's that one. I think. Yes, yes, Octavius Spencer is also in it, which is useful for movie trivia games.

By the way. Oh fun, Okay, I didn't see I didn't remember that. I don't either, but it comes up sometimes and I get to use that as a little card for different games. That's a good one. Yeah, Oh my god, I have a good one.

Let's hear it. Okay, am So, I don't know what this is technically classed as. It's not really a horror movie, but it's it's genre adjacent. I don't know if you remember a little film that came out in twenty twenty one. I declared it my favorite film of the year, and that was Megan Fox's Till Death.

I have seen un Till Death. I do recall it. I've watched it twice, and I can confirm that it is as good bestwy one, okay, maybe the best movie of twenty twenty one. So we have now been graced by another collab of Megan Fox and the director of Till Death. This movie is called Subservience and it's about like a Megan Fox AI.

Okay, intrigued. This is a phenomenal movie if you are me specifically, but I think I think other people will like it. I loved it. It was so Megan Fox is like an AI, like an androidy kind of like thingy, but she's also like evil and like nefarious and and like sexy and manipulative. It's so okay.

It's like single white female, but like with an AI that comes into somebody's house to take care of their children. Hmm, okay, okay, all right, Oh I'm into it. You've you've roped me I. It's currently sits at a two point three on letterbox. I personally think it's a five out of five obviously, but but like I don't know this, this uh, this duo, this Megan Fox s k Dale, director of Till Death, Till Death and Subservience.

This is this is my new guy. Okay, he's really out there doing doing what we need, giving us weird exploitation movies with Megan Fox of them. There are much worse things in the world and we don't have enough of those things. So I'm I'm into it. I will I will look for it.

It's a high recommend. Nice, I have a high recommend, although it was kind of it was a it's like a high recommend, but I don't know that it's one that I want to rewatch anytime. This was it. This was a recommend from Jason Dear Jason Fozzy, who was on our last episode. And it is on shutter It is stop motion.

Okay, yeah, it looks too disturbing to watch it. It is. It's it's very good visually, it's it's doing really interesting things. I think most horror fans should give it a go because it's just very intriguing. It's different, but there is some there is a darkness to it that I don't think was overly obvious initially, and as you go through you're like, oh, yeah, you can have a lot of different readings on this, and they're all pretty sad and dark.

So it was not a fun watch by any means, but it was It was good. It was very good. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of people have suggested it to me as well, and that's kind of what I've gleaned. I don't want to be like a baby or brat about movies, but like I still have that block where I maybe am not too keen to make myself upset. Yes, like when I know that.

The guy I'm a very emotional I just don't want to like like go into something knowing that it's going to affect me a certain way. I don't know. Yeah, I mean there's there's I think it's something that comes up to every horror fan, right we watch, you know, people die on screen, and we watch terrible things happen, and there is a different name, there's different reasons for why we do. Obviously, everybody has their own kind of like reason for what sort of brought them to her. But I think there is something very different about some of the things you're gonna that you want from it.

And that's why I'm saying about like Ride Scare stupid movie. So was this killer Mannequin movie, But at least the Killer Mannequin movie ended in a way where it was like, Okay, there goes a killer mannequin. Where's this stupid ride Scaer movie ended in a way where it was like, Oh, you put somebody through a lot of horrible things, even though you did it very poorly, and I know it's a movie, and then you punish them again for it, and I don't feel good about that. You know, we talk about a lot when we talk about like true crime, which I actively avoid and don't like because I don't I don't ever want it was. Fiction is fiction, and I love it, and I love the grisliest, darkest type of storytelling.

But as soon as you try to make it real or say, well, you know it really happened, I don't need to know that, then I don't. Then I feel bad partaking in it. So, oh, there's there's a difference in how dark what kind of darkness you want to get, I guess totally. And I yeah, it could be old age or it could just be like societally it's just some things. I'm like, eh, all' set.

Yeah, I'm glad that you like it. I mean again, I thought it was very good. I don't I don't see myself watch. Actually it looks really good in the premises. Wild I watched the trailer for it, and then I went, I don't know about that.

I get it. Let's see. I got some more. You got some more. I have at least three that are worth talking about.

Okay, but then I don't really have much else unless you saw the New Twister and wanted to. I did not see the New Twister. I'm not I how do I say it? I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in a Twister? Yeah, me too.

I mean I'm not one of those like nostalgia hounds for the first one. Like I know, I know they exist, and I totally get why, but like it's just not for me personally, something I've ever felt that way towards. So this one going in, I'm already I feel like I'm already on the back foot, Like I'm like not is excited. So now you kind of just have to present me with like a good movie. And I don't know that that's what I felt like.

I was presented with. I think a lot of people got a lot out of it. It seemed like mad I'm not one of them. Yeah, it made people very happy and very excited. I didn't get the main woman.

I didn't get that main guy that everybody liked. I didn't understand his appeal. I I was just kind of and if I mean it fall similar to a lot of like sequels or requels, like it was. It really did hit the same beats of that first one. So if you have that like warm, fuzzy, like familiar feeling with that first one, it's gonna check boxes, right, But like I didn't.

I never felt that way, So I'm like. No, all right, Yeah, everything you just said makes that movie even less appealing to me. Zach was genuinely like it, like intrigued. He was like, Okay, well, you know we've moved, we've gone so far with effects and like what is it going to do and what is it going to do different? And then it was kind of like, but I'm over here squawking about how Subservience changed my life, So.

We're all looking for what do we know exactly? But yeah, if you're not like, if you don't have that like drive towards it, going in that nostalgia feeling towards it, going in. I don't know that there's much to get. Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah.

I watched a movie about a storm or that storm in the title, so I think that counts Storm of the Century Storm Warning, which probably was the prequel to Storm the Century. You gotta yeah. This is directed by the guy who did Urban Legend and Valentine Love It, which we're fans of. This is modern. By modern, I mean like two thousand and eight, so you know, almost twenty years ago.

But this is like modern nods ploitation. It is Australia. It's a like a rich couple or you know, end up there going canoeing or something and they end up like stuck in the middle of sort of boggy nowhere where it's some a family of very bad men doing very bad things. It is really brutal, it's very violent. It's really well done for all of that.

It's truth. It's like the height of two thousand and eight. We know exactly what kind of hork we're getting. But there is something about it which normally is not something I seek out or look for. I'd always remember hearing good things about this one, and I can see why, because it it feels very much like it was made by somebody who watched a lot of osploitation and said, Okay, can I do that now?

I don't know if I can do that, now, let me try, and he did. It's It's very good for what it is. It's incredibly gross and unpleasant. Yeah, yeah, I guess I know that style exactly. I watched Zoe Kravitz's movie.

Direct, Don't Blame Blink twice, Blink, blink twice twice. Okay, blink twice. Jenny Tatum a lie shot at Christian Slater. The cast is so you Zoe Kravitz directed this, So you can come to that fact with any baggage you want to, and I'm sure people will h my what I bring to it is wow. Wow, she got some real good faces in this fucking movie.

And that's all I care about. To me, that's like that shows you're interested in in in doing something interesting. It's not just like like a shotgun blast of like who's popular right now or or or Rando's or whatever. It just felt really like a curated cast and that made me super excited. I liked it, didn't love it.

I will if she directs something else, I will watch it. The problem was not her if I had a problem, the direction wasn't a problem. The acting wasn't a problem. I am a huge Channing Tatum fan. When it works, yep, and it worked in this.

I know something about the story just didn't hit fully for me, and that's probably just like a me thing, but I would recommend it. I'm really intrigued by it. I've tried to stay away from it because it seems like something that the more you know, the less you might get out of it, because I guess it seems kind of twisty. It is a little twisty, but you know what, you know how they say, like anything that if I can spoil something for you and it ruins the movie, then it wasn't a good movie to begin with that kind of thing. If I told you the whole thing, it wouldn't ruin it for you, okay, it would just be like, oh, okay.

Well, I had a feeling that that was maybe what was going on. And also she doesn't or they do a good enough job like Whule buffaloing it so that like once you do know what's fully going on? You could go back and watch it and be like, hey, they set up. Okay, oh that's being paid off really good? Okay, got it, got it, but I like it.

Good to know you mentioned Channing Tatum, so I will mention Channing Tatum adjacent as we know. What is the franchise that got Channing Tatum to start? Christine? Hopefully you're going to say Step. Up obviously the best franchise of the modern era.

Did you know that there was a sixth Step Up movie? Going to IMDb right now? But I have to believe that you're lying to me. I would never do that to you, now, I guess in this is sort of like The Fast and the Furious three of the franchise. This I am talking, of course, of Step Up Year of Dance.

I can't even find that it's. Also known as Step Up. China calls it step Up China. Yes, the movie title I believe is actually step Up. You're a Dance.

Uh it is step Up in China? Uh it is. It's there's I don't know that there was any actual connection to the American Step Up, but it is a step Up movie, Like it feels like one it is a dance group and there's a rich guy who like really wants to be in the dance group, and so there's dancing, there's gangs, because of course somebody does die. I think I didn't get you know, it's it would be the bottom of my steps. I still like it more than the first Step Up.

We'll give you that much. There's more dancing, better dancing than Step Up one. The original Step Up is really not strong in that regard. No, this has so many one star reviews. What why like like a huge right?

It's a three point seven on IMDb. I don't understand why it's again it's it's not good. It is, it's you know, but I don't know there's dancing. God, how can you pet it's a Step up movie? Is the dancing filmed well well?

Because that's one of my problems with the first one. When we do get dancing, like we never get to see it. You see more of it than you because they're definitely dancers first actor second, so you see more dancing. It is not as well as like Where, And that's one of the things that really made John Chew I think, such a successful director is that he started by directing dance or directing dance videos. So he knows that the best special effect in Step Up three is not the three D.

It's I need to make sure I'm showing the dancers and that I can use three D to make everybody really see what it's like when you're in that room. So yeah, I mean it's not great in that regard, but I don't know if you're if you're feeling and like you need a Step Up movie, which every like six months, I find myself saying, it's been a long time, and I try I look to see I'm like, you know what, I just need to own these movies. I need to keep them on hands. I can always watch them. And like, there is no great master set of the Step Up franchise, and all of the individual movies are very expensive.

I guess they're out of print. And all of this worries me, and that's probably gonna be my my new mission in life is to make sure that we get like the full complete Step Up set at some point in life. Yeah, they should do like a big box stut. Yeah you would think that people want it, but I guess people don't want media anymore, or so they say they'll learn. I suppose I have a few more things.

Do you want to do? You need to take a break and we wrap up a few of those things. Ye, let's take a quick break. Take a quick break. Okay, well hydrate after all that dancing.

I do need water. There you go, Okay, I'll be right back. I can come back with another dance movie that I watch. Oh no, I had forgotten that I watched this. And actually it's not that I forgot that I watched it because it's been sitting on my list.

It's that I forgot that it's a dance movie because it's so not a dance movie. Despite being set into Ballet Academy. My darling husband had never seen Dario argento Suspiria. Oh interesting, I mean that's easy to like slip through the cracks. Oh definitely, definitely.

And so I said, all right, I'm like, it's been a very long time, so I've watched it. It's and I looked at him, I'm like, I don't think you're gonna like it at all, but yeah, let's do it. And of course he just kind of looked at me and like at the end of it and just shook his head. He's like, what what is that. I'm like, oh, I don't know.

Say it's Suspiria. And then of course it said Spirio spirios Sspiria in my whispery. It's such a good looking movie. It looks so cool. I haven't seen it in a very long time.

Yeah, it did make me want to revisit the twenty eighteen film, you know what. I've been thinking about it a lot because, if memory serves, I very vocally did not get it and did not enjoy it and felt like it was for other people that weren't me. So I wonder if I still feel that way. Yeah, maybe let us consider if we want to cover it, because I believe it's still it was an Amazon movie, it should be on Prime. It was very widely available for a minute.

Yeah, yeah it I so my problem with that movie. We talk about saying like when we see a movie, we're like, I should see that again. I definitely should because I watched that movie on an empty stomach and didn't realize until it started. Oh shit, it's eleven o'clock and this movie is three hours and I haven't had lunch. I'm really hungry now, and I'm saying to Brandon, I'm like, it wasn't that I walked into the movie not planning.

It was that I forgot. This was back in the day when you had like thirty five minutes of trailers, so by the time the movie started. It was four hours. You're there for four hours exactly, exactly. There was the whole like Maria the Nuno segments back in the day.

Uh so, yes, it seems to be on Amazon Prime. So yeah, what's up. Maybe let's think about that. It's a commitment. But if you watch it on a you know, after eating like chicken wings or vegan chicken wings in your case, because I just that's like all I remember about it is till look went and eating chicken wings.

Yeah, I think it needs to be I think it needs to be done for me at least. I think I need to watch it at least one more time. Same because every time there's a movie where I just am like, guys, I don't get it, I just need to give it one more shot to make sure it's not me not getting it and it just didn't work or wasn't my flavor. I mean Annihilation. The first time I saw Annihilation, I wanted light it on fire and never look at it again, and now I love it.

Yeah, that's one that I liked, don't love. I think I didn't get out of that movie what a lot of other people got. But I would never argue with somebody who did. Oh. On that note, I watched Alexander Garland's most recent and possibly last film, Civil War.

I watched Civil War? Did you no? Not yet? I want you to tell me if I should. Ah, So, okay, it's a hard that's a very hard question.

I feel like the thing I had heard about it, and again I tried not to hear much about it because I thought, well, it's an interesting premise. I might watch that eventually. But the thing I kept hearing was this movie is just has no opinion on anything. And I start the movie kind of casually, like I watch it like, oh, I'll watch it like in the morning before work, and then I'll watch it tomorrow while I'm doing some other things and making breakfast. And I very quickly was like, no, I'm actually really into this.

I'm gonna like pay more attention to it. And I went through ebs and flows of being like no, people were wrong about this movie to being like no, this movie really doesn't have anything, so I am very much in the middle on it. I think Kirsten Dunst is amazing in it, but she is always amazing. It was something that I realized watching her and just being so fascinated by her. To see her playing like the you know, the war photographer who is sort of tired and older.

And I think something that we are are realizing more now is like Kirsten Dunce is about our age. I think she may be a year older or so, but how much we have kind of grown up with her. And I think, unlike some other actors she was has often played her age, so she was when she was a teenager, she was a teenager, and so many of her movies are so like generationally I think important or connecting to us in the many of our experiences in different ways. So to see her now playing you know, somebody who's just older and tired was very weird to experience. I think in some ways, I don't know, I agree that I don't think this movie.

I think it's doing a thing where it's trying very hard to be to do like a oh, we're America, but we're not America. I don't know this is that, that's that, and it it wears thin pretty quickly, the idea of I don't know, I've I don't. I guess I have not thought enough about war journalism to necessarily form any kind of opinion on what it means to explore that and what it would mean to be in that. I think it does a disservice to itself by being so specific, but not I think it would have been better served if it was less, if it was less connecting to you know, this country and well, this guy has an accent, so we know what side he's on, but he but he doesn't. I don't know.

There was something very vague about it that I think like deliberately kept it from sort of saying anything, so it didn't really work for me. In the end. I appreciate the swing, but I also don't know that the swing had any direction to it. So that's roughly where I land on it. Interesting.

I will watch it eventually. Alex Garland is quietly pit maybe one of my favorite screenwriters just of all time. Yeah, that's ever lived. I had such a huge problem with men like I. I again, I watched Annihilation and got angry that I disliked it so much yep, and now I love it, but like men, I found enraging.

It felt like such a obtuse waste of time and and it like really kind of soured me, which is silly because like I can list I can now list five movies that absolutely changed my life that he wrote and directed, so like it seems silly to like throw the baby out with the bathwater on just one movie that didn't land with me. But then Civil War was no pun intended, very divisive, so it was like, I don't know if I need to watch this right. Now, especially right now. Yeah, I do not think part of that. This is a movie you do not watch during an election season.

Uh maybe you watch posts depending on where things land. But it feels like and if it is the American or is he British, I don't. Think he's American. Yeah, it'd be weird if he was, but I'm not. It would be And it's one of those two where you feel kind of like that confusion of your you're you're trying to say something about because it is set in America, and I think that I think he could have changed everything if he had said it in Canada or set it in a fictional country that was very clearly not America.

I think he could have made points about not making points in a way that didn't feel like you were dipping toes into something and then backing away, like I mean, I could just watch a Purge movie and get kind of what I got out of this, except then I still feel like he put like a shield in front of him so that it wasn't it wasn't political, but it was. And all of that is just annoying, I guess. In the end, and you have some very like harsh acts of violence and again some great Kirsten Duns. Again I cannot say it enough. She is fantastic in this movie.

I don't know that it needs to be seen certainly right now. Time will be interesting to it. I think in like ten fifteen years to go back to this, I think it will read differently and it will kind of sit somewhere in history. But I don't think it's saying much right now. I think I'll hold off.

I would yeah good for me, good good good, yeah. All right. In a similar the world has kind of apocalyptic landscape we we watched, so we ended up doing a double feature without planning to necessarily, but then my husband's the completest. So we watched Furiosa and then finally Brandon said, you know, now, I've seen all of them except for Mad Maximy on Thunderdomes, so let's watch that. So those two, did you see Furiosa?

I I I have, I don't know. I don't know if you saw it. I didn't. I did not see it. I don't want to watch it.

I bet people listen to this and go like, what is Christine's problem. I've said this before. Sometimes when you have a movie and you had a good experience with it, it's best to just leave it there. And I've had multiple kind of life changes experiences with Fury Road, like, I don't know that I want to continue. I don't want to change my relationship to Fury Road by entering into a new relationship with something that didn't look good to me.

Yes, yeah, I would like to hear what you think. Yeah, I don't think it. I was really underwhelmed, and as soon as I have looked around, I'm like, this did nothing for me. Now. The good thing it doesn't to me to do anything to take anything away from Fury Road because I'm with you.

I love Fury Road. Fury Road is on TV. I will stop and watch it. That is a movie I think back to and I get like physical chills. I love Fury Road, Furio said.

Just felt like, you know, kind of what we used to get more of in the past, of just like, oh, we're all gathering in the gang back together to make a little lesser version of what we just did. It feels like it is trying to do a lot of the same things. Some of the actions great. Nothing to me came close to like getting that reaction that I wanted to from it. I love Chris Hemsworth is great.

Chris Hemsworth is my Nicholas holt Of. I love when a very handsome leading man just wants to be a weirdo because he's wild. In this movie. He's playing just a mess of a villain and he's having so much fun. And I could have just watched him the entire time, but I just this just didn't It didn't do much for me.

So I'll never revisit it. If it's on TV in the background one day and I land on it, I won't, you know, Okay, I'll put that on while I you know, make my dinner or whatnot. But it just was very like, because I know some people that did vouch for it, of like no, no, no, this is better than Fury Road. No, this is this is right there, and I didn't get any of the energy like that. The energy of Fury Road is something so special and singular, and it's it's not here.

And then Mad maximy on Thunderdome, which is to me, the first hour of that movie is like almost the best of any Mad Max second of Fury Road, and then it just turns into like hook and gets weird. And that was my experience watching it this time, and that was Bronnan's experience watching it too. It's what an oddly put together movie. But it's interesting. Okay, Yeah, I had heard people say that Hemsworth was really the standout.

Yeah, but then I watched the trailer and I was like, I don't I don't see it in the trailer, so perhaps there is nothing here for me kind of feeling. I will watch it, but like I don't know. Me and movies have a w relationship, especially like like theatrical ones where I feel like there's a narrative already attached to it like how people have already experienced it. I get weird about it these days, and I'm just kind of like this. I'll get there when I get there.

Yeah, it's It's often a problem with new things is that eighties very difficult to approach anything cleanly. And that is why I actually went to the movies today. Oh my gosh, you did. I did. I know.

I don't do this often. I rarely do this, but when there is a genre movie that everybody is talking about, and I realize very quickly, oh no, by the time I see this, I'm going to know everything. I mean, even if I don't know everything about what happens in the movie, I'm going to know where every single person stands on it. And it's going to be very hard to see it fresh. So I said, you know what I'm doing it.

I'm gonna go see the Substance. I cannot believe you got to see it. I'm so happy for you. I'm so jealous. You should be.

I loved this movie. Course she did. I went at the eleven am screening at the Jacob Burns Film Center, which is like this little art house, nonprofit theater. I was the youngest person in the theater. It was if you go to the first showing, they do close captions, so I got to watch it with close captions, which was great, and it was I was so glad I saw in the theater because it was only a few people were in that movie theater with me.

They were all older than me, and it was wonderful when you hit that point of oh, this is getting bonkers and hilarious, but is it hilarious? Oh no, it's hilarious because we are all laughing, and it was so fun like when the lights came up to look at like this older couple next to me who were probably in their like late sixties, and like you're like, yeah, that was great, right, okay, awesome, Like it was. It was great. I don't want to say too much because I don't want to be that same person that I was just complaining about that ends up ruining movies for me. But it is everything.

I mean. The best way I have heard it described was, oh, it's like if death becomes her met Society. Yeah, pretty much. It is very funny. Every de Me Moore is great.

Margaret Quality does not get enough credit for being such a weird, interesting actress and she's fantastic in it. It goes bonkers in the best of ways. I was incredibly satisfied with it. Yay, Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait.

I can't wait. You mean revenge? Yeah, very very excited about this one. Really excited for me, super excited for what I know about it. Yeah, it's definitely going to be prioritized as soon as it's available.

Long leg I try to. Actually, there are some things occasionally that I will get excited about and would like to watch. Long Legs is one of them. Yes, I think will be on a similar, similar trajectory. I cannot wait.

I wonder if it's playing anywhere around here. I think it's gonna No, I think it got an AMC release. I think it will be in a lot of theaters nationwide. Yeah, you might get your shot at it. I'll have to look around and it's to be I mean again, I don't I don't know where you stand in theaters now.

It is a great theatrical experience because it is uh, it is squishy, and the sounds are great and there the music is big. And to be in an audience that that does not know how to react for a movie like that is really feels right. That's interesting. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people say like the last half hour or the last bit like really disturbed people. Yeah, it's it is.

It's so gross in the best of ways. Yay, that sounds fun, right. Yeah, I was very happy. I was very sad. Yeah, let's see, I got a few more.

I know I have a few more than you, so I'll run through some on the horror front. On this was one of those like random finds that every now and then. As much as like you and I think like we're pretty well versed in horror, I've land on something I've never heard of, and I'm so confused that why I'd never heard of it. Have you ever seen Jack's Back from nineteen eighty eight with James Spader? Oh, I know about it, but I've never seen it.

No, but I know about it. It's on Peacock. It's a Jack the Ripper maybe is back or somebody is copying him, and maybe it's James Spader as a good doctor, or maybe it's his twin who's a manager at foot locker. And it's just a weird little movie that is very confusing. I don't fully understand who did what in it in the end.

But James Spader's so good I do. I am a big fan of him. He always does good work. It's a good showcase for him too because it's eighty eight, so it's kind of right when he's sort of it probably was his first leading role and he gets to play two different characters and he's you could see watching it where you know when you have those moments of like, oh you're a movie star, you get that here? Yeah?

Yeah, Oh that's fun. Yeah, maybe I'll have to reevaluate and watch that. Yeah. Another sort of mystery movie on Peacock. This this kind of feels weirdly like maybe a Christine movie.

Who This movie is called Summoned Okay, and it's kind of a yeah, yeah, look it up because you're gonna see some wild things going on here. I think the title is sort of a uh uh huh Cooper getting Junior. I think he had like taxes. I think he was one of those guys who owed money in places and ends up doing a lot of movies that you have never heard of, And you wonder, why is Cupa getting Junior in this movie? So summoned?

What do you when I say, summoned, What do you think what comes into your head first? Like I'm summoning like a demon. That's about it's about it, or maybe it's about both, Christine. Maybe it's about both. That's fun.

Yeah, this feels very it's a weird like hybrid of like lifetime ish. The lead actress has done a lot of like lifetiming Christmas movies. That's what I knew her from. Uh, it's the jury who found a man guilty of murder. Are all being like knocked off one by one a year after the case, And there's some is it a mystery?

But then like they're all dying by suicide, but it's mysterious, so obviously there's a demon or something this I do. I still don't know who actually who did this. I don't know who the killer was. I do not understand if it was actually supernatural or not. It's a mess of a movie, but it's kind of entertaining in how what a mess it is?

Yeah, it kind of looks that that super squinty guy is in it. Now my IMDb is not. Oh super squinty guy from Buffy Forrest from Buffy, right that guy? Yeah, it wouldn't it wouldn't load, so I couldn't like look and see who it was, but I was like, hey, I recognized. People in Yeah, there's a lot of people in there that you're like, oh that person.

Oh, oh, James Hong isn't it for He dies pretty early. So yeah, it's it's not good, but it's the kind of movie that I feel like James and Barb might like it, So there's that. Yeah, it's very strange, it. Goes places that you don't quite expect, and it's very cheaply made, which I appreciate. Also on Peacock.

Peacock has a small variety of made for TV like early USA type days, including Murder at My Door starring Judith Light and a baby faced Johnny Galecki. Ah, there is a murder going on in their small town, and they perhaps it is Judith Light's teenage son, Jonathan Gilecki, who just seems off ninety six. I think, wow, it feels like it should have been earlier. It feels like out of time, Like I don't remember ninety six being this eighties, but it's feels very eighties. Watching this movie, I am convinced Judith Light is actually the greatest actress of her generation.

She's so good in this not good at all mystery, where she is summoning everything to play this mother of a shitty teenager. The problem with this movie today is that, like today, if you made the same movie, you'd have a twist and it wouldn't be Johnny Gilecki. It would be his little brother or something. Yeah. But in nineteen ninety six you're like, Okay, so he's the killers.

Everybody thinks it's a killer, but he's not the killer, right spoiler alert, No, he's the killer. Yeah, but but there's other weird things. Gray Sabriski gives us special appearance by it. So there's fun things going on. And if you're like, I don't know, kind of scraping the barrel and want more nineties made for TV things, there is murder your door, at my.

Door, my door, murder at my door. Yes, all right, a few more on my side. Oh this is a movie that screamed Christine to me. Oh okay, okay, uh. This just feels like the kind of movie you would have watched growing up and would have loved.

And if you haven't that, I know you would watch it now. It is based on an Ira eleven. Play Oh okay, starring a. Young or post Superman, so you know youngish Christopher Reeve, Michael Caine, and Diane Cannon. Have you seen diff Trap?

Yes? I do? You would, of course you do, so good? Of course I do. Death Trap is like one of my favorite movies.

I think we have it on Blu Ray. I don't ever remember you talking about it, but watching it, I'm like, this is a Christiane movie if I've ever seen. One, Yeah, yeah, did you like it? Loved it? Loved it.

I went in knowing nothing about it. I knew it was based on a play, ye, and it's that's the way to see it, because if you know anything, then it does like there are some big, big swings and even like, I'm so glad you've seen it because then I don't have to like tease you with it, but not tease you with it because I didn't like there's things about it that would get you to see it. But for anybody out there, I just all the things I would say to Christine normally to like tease her about watching a movie, I would say here. So if you've not seen Death Drop, you can rent it on Hoopla, which is one of the library services for free. So it's there so good.

It's really good. It's really really good, murder mystery, really good, script, really good, it's well acted, it's well staged. Yep, it's it's almost a perfect movie, if not a perfect movie in my opinion. And you get to see Christopher Reeve in a really just different light if you. Will, Yes, and he's so good, totally like when you when you like me.

The main way I'd seen Christopher Reeve obviously is Superman, but also then like, isn't there like that Children of the Korn movie or something. No, you're thinking of those to the dance? Yeah, I get those confused sometimes fair, but it's kind of like you don't. I had never really seen him in anything like be like that. He was there because he was good, do you know.

What I mean? And he's a Juilliard trained actor like he was, had all of the goods. He just was also an incredibly handsome man who made a cutting figure a Superman. And and then it just seemed like the most mainstreamy things that you would just catch Christopher Reeve and were maybe not trading on his his talent. At least that was my experience with it, and so the first time I saw this movie, I was like, because Michael Kane has always hit for me, like, you know, it's a sign of quality.

But I was like, I don't know if Christopher Reeve's going to be able to stand his own and this really kind of sparse or and it's like, nah, he choose on shit, he's so. Good, he's so good. Yeah, yeah, it was quite rewarding. Yeah, that's awesome. Another one that everybody was talking about.

So I watched on Netflix and I actually really enjoyed it. Did you see rebel Ridge? Or you don't have Netflix, so you don't, So I did. Actually, Rebel Ridge was the movie I had big vague booked about, saying that I would maybe talk about it and not say great things. It just didn't work for me.

I don't understand necessarily why people liked it, but like so many people liked it that I have to chock it up to like it just didn't hit. But like I get who made it, and that's why I was like super excited. Yeah, why did you like it? I mean, the lead actor is phenomenal. That was the biggest thing to me was the lead actor's name.

I forget now like and I can because he's going to be a star, Like he was so riveting and so good that you're following him. I liked and as if you're rob I like that relationship. I like Don Johnson as a villain. Is he can do that really well. He can play like racist hitthead in a way that is scary, I guess, And I don't know.

I don't think it was perfect, but it held me. It held my attention completely. I felt going into it it was one of those movies. I think I knew that it spoiler alert a little bit. I think I knew it was going to end positively.

If I did not know that going in, I may have walked away from it pretty quickly. But I think I knew it was going to be satisfying, and so it was just like, Okay, how is he going to teach everybody a lesson? If you will? And I, by no means think it was a perfect movie, but it was to me very It was very thrilling. It held my attention.

It had I thought everybody was good, like we get James CROs Well in there as as a shithead. Like no, everybody the cast is really good. That's not at all even remotely a concern or problem I had with everybody's great, what. Was your problem with it? Just that it was uh something.

I I really just kind of cut everything down to just saying it didn't work for me. Sure, I don't know. I wasn't engaged. It felt trite. I didn't I didn't care about anything.

Everything seemed to go on for way too long. I was like, it felt like a slog and if and I'm looking at it right now on letterbox in the amount, like so almost everybody I follow on letterbox has seen it. Everybody has given it. I think the lowest people have given it is three stars, which again totally feels like, well, this is a Christine thing. Then if everyone else is having this like interaction in this relationship with this film, maybe I'm just not getting it at like the right time in my life.

Sure, and like this is this is green Room, dude, Like green Room, I get maybe a perfect movie honestly, but like then I will look at his other films, Jeremy Salmer, I guess, and then yeah, maybe that's but like I didn't particularly like feel engaged with Hold the Dark. I didn't like all the Dark. I liked Blue Ruin a lot, and I like Green Room a lot this, and I mean, you can see a lot of what he excels at as a director and what he finds interesting. And I think, you know, I think he does action really well. I think he does and not action in the way of like you know, Fury wrote action, but I think he does that sort of There is something very alive about his like in kinetic, about his filmmaking.

So when that comes together well in a script, I think, I'm I'm there for it. And I think this also had the benefit of being Netflix movie. That's that's certainly why it sort of has has caught the way it did, I think. But also it is the kind of movie that you can start and walk away from and come back to and walk away from because it is long. It's a good I think it's a good two hours and it doesn't need to be it could this would have been better as a sharpened like ninety minute, But I don't think people watch this kind of movie that way.

I think they do do other things and do pause it and come back to it and then rewatch it three days later, and like there's something about that type of filmmaking that I normally don't like, but I thought it it worked here. I don't know, I was. I was sold into it quickly, just and part of it was just I wanted to watch this guy do what he was what I knew he was going to do. Yeah, totally, and I totally, I totally get that. I just maybe if I'm in a different frame of mind someday and it's like, what's a great action movie, like to go back, I'll check it out again.

But it's it's. Also okay not to like things that other people. Like, I know, but like sometimes it's hot you. I have discussed this at like it is sometimes difficult for me to wrap my head around because I want to know why, and I don't think you can get those answers sometimes. No, I I get it.

I think that's why I was so curious about that you liked the Omen prequel, because that was one for me that I felt like, what am I missing here that film critics thought was great. And it's fully visuals. Visuals, yeah, that's really what it visuals and like energy, Yeah, it was what was what won me over in the end, which are like so like nebulous, nothing things. Yeah, I really liked the energy of that movie. And it's so funny you say that, because as you're saying that, I'm like, yeah, those are the things I liked about Rebel Rich.

Yeah, I just I didn't it just it connects or doesn't. I'm curious if you have seen another one on my list? Then did you see The Royal Hotel? No, I'm I am so I just want you to watch it. I'm really curious what you'll walk away with because I I knew enough about it going in to know it was not going to easily like sit in any genre.

This is uh Julia Garner and Jessica Hennick from Glass Onion. They're like two Americans backpacking and they end up in like the outback bartending in a mining town where there's all very testosterone men in a world they are not really belonging to, and it's just a bit of tension building and it's a very it's an it's an odd watch. It's a it's saying it's I don't exactly know where I stood on it yet. It's one that I think I could see like coming back to or see like reading a really great paper on and being like Oh, okay, now I get it. But it's doing a lot of interesting things in a very different way, and that's why i'd be curious for you to watch it.

Uh yeah, I'm looking at it. I know this poster so I know that I've come in contact with it, and also just reading the synopsis that gives. Me and Soon the Darkness Fine, Yes, another movie that Brandon has not seen that I'm like, I want to have him watch it, but I'll be very sad if he doesn't like it. There's two of them. You should do it.

Oh, I've seen the other one. I don't need to see the other one again. That's okay. American, Yes, the American one from like two thousand and nine, right in the heyday of do we have anything left to remake? Here's a movie that very people people have seen.

Let's do that one. But it feels like like a twenty ten movie. So much, feel so very much. Yeah, very much. And for those who have not seen the original Ensuen the Darkness, which I think is like seventy nine or so, it's late seventies.

Yeah, it is just this very tension, bildy movie about two young women who are in the middle of nowhere in France and one of them is missing and the other one has to try to find her, and it's I love it, and I'm getting excited thinking back to it because I know I will rewatch it soon. But this this has some of those vibes it is. It is less a genre movie. It's it's not on paper a horror at all, but it's doing something like that in just this idea that you're a young woman in a place that you maybe have stepped into without being fully prepared for who you are here, and it just builds intention and builds, and I think you would get something out of it by watching it exciting. Okay, all right, all right, that's a good suggestion.

And on the notion of movies that you show your partner that they really like, that you watch and say, oh, okay, a movie that was dear to Brannon's childhood that I had never seen. Uh sat down for Haunted Honeymoon, which you would have seen. We were just talking about that like two days ago. In what regard have you seen er, Zach? So I think it's a movie that Zach could seen like when he was a lot younger, and has like like walked away with the vague feeling of like I remember liking it.

I'm pretty sure that's what he said to me a few times. I remember liking it. It feels like the kind of movie if you watched like as a kid, you would definitely have very fond memories of it. It's enjoyable. There's some great comedic performances.

It's Gene Wilder and Gilda Radner and of course they're perfect and they're lovely. Jonathan Price is there and he's great. Doctor Louise is fantastic. He is playing If you know anything about the movie, you know he is Be's and drag. He's playing the elder aunt.

But he's playing it very straight and he's wonderful in the movie. What I said to Brandon when it ended, I looked at him and I said, did we lose? Like? Did we when we paused it to like go to the bathroom? Did we skip through like thirty minutes of this movie?

Because it makes no sense narratively. There's just so much that doesn't add up and characters that are there that don't play into anything. And I look at him like, no, but I don't understand what happened in this movie? I don't understand like what the reality is of it, so like don't expect story to add up, but it's it's cute. It's of an era and again like as a you know, just to see kind of comedy, some very very good comedic genius is working.

You get a lot of that here. Yeah, I I uh, which one did I watch? I talked about it. It was the parody of Murder My Death. Yeah, thank you.

No, it's not that one, but it's that that type of genre. And I was like, this is amazing, and I felt like it was such a nice surprise because that type of I don't want to straight up just call it a parody because I know it does more than that, but it can really go wrong. Yeah, and I worry about that when I when I we watched the trailer for Haunted honey Moon, and I was like, I don't know, man, it could go either way. Well, it's like in terms like there's something aesthetically about it that takes you back to Clue and takes you back to like, you know, an era when movies because like studios would spend a lot of money on a mansion and things like that, and I think, like you and I have both talked about, like mel Brooks, of how I think mel Brooks is a wonderful human being.

I love listening to him talk and I could read what he writes. I don't usually find his movies that funny. His humor just doesn't click for me, and I know that's true of a lot of people. And this this is not mel Brooks, but it's it's Gene Wilder, who you know, cut his teeth with mel Brooks, and it has some of that. It has some of those like repeated gags and some of those like there's there's that element to it in terms of humor that isn't the whole film.

There's other things that I did laugh out loud at, but it doesn't. It feels like they just rush. It feels like they just ran out of time and said, yeah, it's good, it's good. It was seeing it Brann And like if you remember in the movie Elf, like there's the scene early on when James con is the like book publisher and they have a book growing to print and they realize they forgot the last page and he's like, don't worry, kids, kids won't care. Just get it out, get it out there.

That it's important that we sell it. That's kind of what I felt like with this movie, that there was like no, like they really didn't think we'd care about the fact that it doesn't make sense. Yeah, and I'm not. I think that's where it does when where again I'm safe parody, but where parody doesn't work for me. So I looked it up because it was gonna bother me.

I'm talking about Fatal Instinct, which is oh okay, but like, the thing that worked so well for that with that movie for me is that that it was funny and it was tropic, and it like took like aim at that style of movie, like a Fatal Attraction style, basic instinct kind of movie, but it also was a cohesive story within itself. M hm. And and I think that's for me when it works best, like yeah, do do. That's when the scary movies work, when they're actually telling a story but like poking at other horror movies, but still there's a fucking story. Yeah, or something that there has been cared.

To, Yeah, exactly. And that's why sometimes I can be a little like hesitant, like is this just gonna be like a pot pastiche of like little vignettes. If somebody thinks it's funny, or is it gonna be like an actual movie? An, yeah, that's fair, fun fun. Maybe we'll watch it because I know Zach wants to.

Yeah, I think you'll it's you'll find it enjoyable. It's not gonna work. I would be surprised if it fully worked for you. But there's things about it that are morem and fuzzy and you'll enjoy. And I think you'll appreciate Donde Luis in't it?

I think he actually that plays it well. Yeah, yeah, that trailer is wild. If anybody has no idea what we're talking about, like the trailers, we just on YouTube and look at it. The trailer's wild. If you have no idea what Haunted Honeymoon is like, the trailer's wild.

I'm gonna watch that trailer. I did not watch it. I will. What is this fucking need? I will check it out.

Last few I have you I'm sure have seen this because I can't imagine people didn't write about it for the various things you've edited. Dracula's Daughter nineteen thirty something, late thirty something. I've actually seen. I have never seen it, so yeah, I am well acquainted with her. Yeah, we'd watched it with my niece.

Was the visiting, and so we were trying to find movies that we all had never seen together. It is post Dracula, it is there's It comes up a lot in various queer studies of horror because you can see like, oh, yeah, there's a lot going on here. Yeah. Yeah, And it's a little slow. It's that pacing that they hadn't quite figured out yet to me.

But Dracula's daughter looks fabulous and love her outfits. Hate the men in this movie, love the women. So it's one of those things, a movie that we watched because after Annabelle Brannan saw that the actress played Annabel was in another horror movie that looked that the trailer looked good. For Annabel Wallace. No, not that Annabel Annabel.

Oh wait, I said, Annabel, Abigail, abagailgil the little girl, the little girl from Abigail Abigail. I'm excited. I thought you were talking to Annabeale. Oh my god, no, but can we have an Annibel movie where the girl who played Abigail plays Annabel? Yes, like in the Doll, like in the doll comes still lives like she's dancing and she's doing everything that Abigail did.

But as Annabel the. Doll, I think that there's a lot of room to do things like that. I agree, agreed, Okay, don't leave Home. I don't understand what the title means at all, because it's never explained an artist goes to Ireland. She where there's like a weird little forest and people disappear, and maybe it's the priest or maybe it's a Dorian Gray thing.

I don't know. This was like really good for a while, and you're like, oh, it's gonna go somewhere. It's kind of it's foulk horror. You're into it. You like, there's stuff building, there's a creepy old lady, and then it ends and it doesn't go anywhere, and you're left wondering anybody any character's motivation and why they did things.

And it was completely unsatisfying. And I speak about it so that everybody knows that because it was frustrating to me, and I wonder if anybody else has seen it. But anyway, I that's one of the reasons why I'm such an avid movie talker about her, because sometimes I see something and I'm like, I need other people to see this so that we can. Talk about it exactly. And this is one that I would like kind of like other people to see to see if I miss something, but also I feel your experience.

No, I know, yeah, all right. Well, last thing I'll mention was, as it's last time, I needed something in the background that I wasn't going to pay that much attention to, and somehow landed on Airport which I had never seen, only to realize that Airport one, I'm sorry, Airport, Airport nineteen seventy seven, and Airport nineteen seventy nine, we're all on Netflix, and I ended up watching all three of them over the course of like four days, and that does things to your brain. Have you ever seen these movies? Uh? No, I don't think so.

I mean you've seen an airplane obviously of course, yes, yeah, it really. After this, I like I had to watch Airplane to kind of also like cleanse my palate a little bit. Uh these movies, Oh my god. Like I know, we are not in the best timeline, but thank god I wasn't a flight attendant in the nineteen seventies. Thank goodness.

I didn't just work in an airport. Thank good, as I wasn't a woman in the nineteen seventies. You know, really we we say what we say, but that truly good for us, I guess. Yeah. These are such all, the first three of them.

The third one's a little better, but the first two it's the same exact dynamic of young or flight or fly like you know. And the first one there's two sets of romances where it's like flight attendant and pilot, and then the other one is like, I don't know what your job is, but sort of customer service manager and her supervisor. And so in both cases it's like young, beautiful woman, older aging man, both of them are married. And then the second one you get the same scenario. So every single time, it's like the poor flight attendant can only only seems to think that the only man worthy of her is this awful, terrible man in a position of power over her.

And it's just very it's a lot. It's really a lot to take in. I bet. I mean, I will say though, much like a lot of the types of movie, this type of movie from this general time period, I'm just going through airport seventy seven, oh, Yeast, Jack Lemon, Joseph Cotton, and Olivia de Havland Darren McGavin. Oh god, because all three movies, and I didn't get to watch the fourth one because that one was not streaming with the others.

But all three have like the same sort of cause. It's kind of fascinating because they're the same. It's the same setup. Like the first one, half of it's in the airport and then half of it's on the plane. But in every scenario, you get the pilot, you get the head flight attendant, you get the there's an older lady who's like a fading star of some renown and she's she's loving to Haveland in the one.

I forget the actress who plays her in the others, but like every one of them, you're like, oh, look at the look who they got, Look who they got. And it's the same, Like and I can't think of a franchise today that did that where you get like same story, same setup, the different castage time. Like I don't think it's something we really do now. I think you do get the more on TV with your like seasons of I don't know, standalone seasons of The White Lotus, let's say, yeah, but these are wild. I mean, it's just it is a view into a world that thankfully I did not live in.

For real. Well, I mean the so the fourth one is the Concord Airport seventy nine. I mean Charros in that one, So we should have That's a whole lot. I can't wait. Yeah, I will finish it out.

I feel kind of incomplete that I didn't actually get to watch all of them. Oh and Sybil Danning, this one has a weird cast. Yeah, that seem. Trust me, they're all very weird casts. They are.

And that what was what was the one I watched? We talked about and you were like, yeah, it's really great and I was like, obviously maybe beside an adventure. Yeah, and it was like, we just don't do big, fat ensemble casts with like with like nine people have huge meaty parts. Really don't do that. Yeah, it feels a little bit like like an Agatha Christie.

So like I guess very much, very much. You could say like knives Out and like the movies kind of like that did that or tried to do that. But man, the ubiquity of it during like the seventies, I think. It's something that I don't know if you've heard these conversations lately, there is something to the past year or so of everybody appreciating grown up movies that like Your Your Knives Out Your Fall Guy, like Your movies that seem to just be movies made for grown ups, that have big budgets, that have star power behind them, and that kind of have a certain like throwbackness to them, because for so long you weren't doing that with movies. It was either big superhero franchises or tiny, tiny independent things, or like some Oscar bait, and now we're kind of back to like populist movies, and there's something like, oh, right, these are these are movies.

These are things that everybody likes because they're good and if they're done well, they're exciting. And I don't think any of the Airport movies are good. I really like actively don't think these are good movies. But I could see the appeal of them certainly, and they were riveting in different ways. They were all the first one.

I couldn't believe how long it just went on forever. But I also was so like jaw on the ground watching it that I I was not bored even though it was boring. Well that's interesting, Yeah, mixed review if you will. Yeah, what else did you have? Okay?

Well, right, yeah, So we're moving into October, which is October in a different language, and I am wanting to do some genre stuff. So we started early and where a lot of movies came out in the last I don't know, four or five years. Even in this in the twenty twenties, a lot of movies came out, so I'm trying to play catch up. So we're kind of working backwards with like twenty twenty four movies until like then we'll start, you know, which has led to some fun things like I enjoyed the First Omen, I enjoyed Blink twice, I enjoyed joyed Servians. I'm capable of enjoying movies.

But I watched the twenty four Brandy movie. Oh this it's the front Room, the front Room, thank you. And it's the Eggers brothers that I. Was gonna say, I'm like, it's somebody interesting directing, right, it is Robert not that one. Not, Yes, it's not Robert, it's his I guess his other brothers.

I've been trying to remove, like vitriolic language from my from my vocabulary when speaking about art. I loathed this film. Wow. I wanted to shut it off. I wanted to.

We had to stop with a half hour left, just because like things timed out, and I was like, let's never go back. Wow. Then Zach didn't want to. He wanted to finish it up to sure that if it ever But I had a feeling based on once it we were about like twenty minutes half hour into it, I kind of skimmed a couple reviews in just a letterbox, and I was like, man, I don't know if this is ever going to come back around for me, So I would I would rather bolt and just go. And but like I understand finishing things out, I'm not typically I did not finish kind of like media Enjoyer.

So like, I get it. It's aggressively gross, it's hopeless, it's means spirited, it's icky, it's it's disgusting again, it feels mean. I saw somebody describe it as exploitation. Okay, I don't, like I have a problem. With There's a fine line in doing that between telling a story that I am riveted by or going the actual exploitation route and me feeling like you're Tie West and you don't really want to cast an old person, so you have me a gothly an old person.

Yeah yeah, and and and like again, I don't think Max or Sam Eggers is going to listen to this podcast and be like, wow, that Christine's a real pick. But like I struggled to say mean things because it's it's it's somebody's art, and Zach kept saying it reminded him of like, I'm so sorry, I can't remember the directs name, but like the lobster and killing him a sacred fear thank you, like that kind of maybe presentation or he kept calling it a stand and deliver kind of kind of dialogue read so a bit flat maybe, But like I didn't, I didn't. I don't know that everybody was really good at it, if that's what that was what was happening. I don't know that everybody was having a good time with it, and it felt lived in.

So there was that on top of the fact that it really just seemed to be a meditation and misery, which is cool if that's the movie that you want to watch, But like we I just said it length. I don't think that's a movie that I want to watch. Right now, I thought, And it's it's similar to like, like the first omen this has is about baby in pregnancy and like women in pregnancy. And again, I don't know that that's what I want, and I think I might be actively trying to stay away from that now because I'm not the audience for like pregnancy stuff. Well, I then I still want you to watch Immaculate to make an exception for that one.

Is that pregnancy stuff? Oh? Yes, Immaculate, Immaculate Conception. Yeah, I mean I assumed, but I didn't want to assume. I guess maybe I'll lean into it a little bit longer because Apartment seven a the Rosemary's Baby prequel that I know.

Yeah, Relic the director, the director of Relic, in case everybody doesn't know. What we know. I mean, come on, people, do you not follow the random interims between when we release episodes. I'm excited to see it because, like I said, Relic didn't necessarily hit for me, but like that was not Relic's problem, right. And you could see bones of some very good direction there, I think.

Yeah, and like to have a woman working on a Rosemary's Baby adjacent thing is like for me really like important, yeah and exciting, So like, yeah, I'm excited, So maybe I'll just lean into the baby stuff. But that that's a hard pass for the front room. I don't personally know anybody that would enjoy it interesting. I mean, I haven't heard. Most of what I've heard is pretty negative.

I know, I don't think it got well reviewed at all. I know I heard like one or two people kind of speak up for it and say it was that it was actually doing some really interesting things, but which made me intrigued by it. But it could But like if you if you aren't keen on I don't know. I don't want to say elder abuse. But if you aren't keen on seeing elder abuse and you don't really like bodily fluid, I don't know why you would.

Show up for this? Boy? Can I not wait for you to see the substance when we talk about bodily fluids and elder abuse. Bodily fluids are I actually you know when I said body horror, and I don't want to be reminded that I meet that's more of like inside of me. I don't want to be reminded that I'm me, but I don't mind like vomit and like pee and poop and that stuff that doesn't like bother let's.

Make let's go through a list. Okay, how about Booger's earwax? Uh? Trying to figure out. Which any of the stuff that comes Any stuff that comes out that is supposed to come out is fine, okay.

Any stuff that is not supposed to come out makes me upset. Interesting, Like it's like blood can. Come out, like manitus on your neck should not come out? No, no, there you go, you got it? I do?

I do? Yeah, I can. I mean, the best way to ever explain anything to me is really just to say it's like the Manitou and then I'm like, okay, I got it, got it? Lasers? Yeah, totally definitely.

If you see this movie for some reason, let me know what you think. But I don't know that you ever will. I can't say that I won't. I could see this being like a random plane movie for me and me, making the person sitting next to me very mad. Uh yeah, like whatever whatever you gotta do.

And then the last one I watched I actually liked more than that, which is strange. It's afraid it's the AI. Oh right, right, Oh. Yeah, I don't know. Like we talked about earlier, like home assistant, smart home stuff, I'm a bit of a sucker for it.

I like it even when maybe it's not like doing anything great. This doesn't necessarily do anything that different. But like, I don't know, I guess maybe I'm at a point where a bad Home Assistant movie not only so bad. Yeah, it's it is your version of my evil child movie. I think I think it might be.

You know that I'm very forgiving when it's like social media or tech being used in like an even lightly interesting way. I'm like, same way for me. If it's if it's an evil kid or a doll, it can be pretty bad. And I'm still like, yeah, but it was, I don't know. I still liked it better than Don't Leave Home, you know, so yeah, no.

Totally so Yeah, that Afraid movie. I guess it's harmless and easy to watch. And sometimes that's all you need, you know. After the front Room, I was like, let's watch this Afraid movie because I need a palette cleanser. I get it, I get it.

I I mean we I can't think of any at the moment. Luckily, none of them are on my list from from this round. But those movies that you just watch and you feel worse for having watched them, there is something there and it's I mean, again, we're saying this as horror fans who have watched some pretty rough stuff, but it and I think both of us, we don't mean we need a happy ending. I can be very satisfied if everybody dies in a movie, but there is something about a movie that it seems to designed to make you feel bad about everything that you know, we don't need that. Yeah, I agree, iicular child.

Yeah I couldn't have said it better myself. That's kind of it. So it's a dance of trying to figure out, like where I'm at right now, what my sweet spot is. I get it, I get it all right. Well, I think that roughly wraps up a whole lot of catch up from the last several months.

I won't go through all the Olympic activities I watched, and you know, give reviews of each of those, you know, each medal, but I did watch a lot of them. But yeah, we'll come back in two years for the Winter Olympics and talk about that. I can't wait in the meantime, if you want to find us, I don't know where we are anymore. I am We're on Instagram, but you need to post because I'm really bad at Instagram. Feminine Underscore podcasts, Yeah, we're there maybe or Facebook.

There's a group, but nobody uses Facebook either, so I don't know. Send us carrier pigeons. We're here. We love you all and will not put you in front rooms anytime soon? Has that?

No? Never? Never? That all right? With that being said, Happy October.

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