183. Our Favorite Boat Movies!

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Oh, you have to swarm up something just a gig club and. Welcome to a special maritime edition of The Feminine Critique. I'm Emily, I'm your ship's captain. No, you'd be the captain, you'd be the captain. Skipper, Christine, I'm skipper.

Is that? No, that's the captain. I don't know. I think skipper is post because Gillian the skipper to the skipper. Yeah, theiper is captain.

Do you want to be Gilligan in the scenario? I don't know. I don't want a lot of response. I did not. I finally got to the point where I'm pretty good driving and I can like confidently say that, and then when I tell my friends that, they laugh at me and say, no, you're not.

So. I just don't feel like I should be the captain. I think I should be like not the first mate. I should be the not the decade. I don't know what job I'd have enough.

I would be, let's face it, I would be the MC like entertainment director. I think, Oh, well, I was thinking that you could be missus Howell Lovey. Yeah, I'm really deep Gilligan's Island lore for all them folks out there. Yeah, that's that's fair, that that's where I land. Definitely, Yeah, you could or like the glamorous movie star.

Oh you're too kind. Well, folks, if you haven't figured it out, today, we're going to talk about boat on boats. And I had no intention of talking about Gilligan's Island. So I'm glad we got that out. Of the well.

I mean, you have to start somewhere. It is. It is a television show about a boat that crashed. I guess young people know Gilligan's Island. Maybe it's like a casual reference.

I know that there there was that uptick of like younger folks really watching the Office and they have on their boat episode. Essentially they have a lot of so maybe they know by osmosis because. It's kind of the equivalent like Loogan violand was no on like Live when we were kids. It was just always in reruns and always on TV, so every kid knew everything about Coligan's Island, same way we knew Brady Bunch and other shows that were much before our time. Ye.

So yeah, it was a big, big part of our understanding of what life in a deserted island would look like. Coconut radios galore. We should hold off, though, because at some point we will do island movies. But the way this came up is I was thinking, like, hey, like, we haven't had a list episodes in a while, and those are fun. Yeah, and Christine said, yeah, I've been I have lists.

And Christine gave me like this amazing list of like twenty different list based conversations we could have and one of them was boats. And I'm like, let's talk about movies on boats. I like a good self contained story, just period, and I really like so this a lot of times. I get it. Okay, that's all I'm gonna say.

But when you're looking at lists of movies on boats, people want to talk about submarines. Again, I get it. That's not what I want to do, though. I want to talk about submarines, and it's time to talk about submarines. But I really like how boats are like contained and like you know, like a shark movie, like a like a forty seven meters down shit.

You have your own kind of set of like elements you're up against. It brings up unique challenges. Oh yeah, so I think you know a lot can be done in that in that very specific setting. I agree. I think what I love about when you said movies on boats.

To me, the beauty of any story told on a boat is that you have this like gorgeous insane dichotomy of a boat being a very contained, finite space. Right. If somebody is chasing you on a boat, there are only so many places you can hide. On a boat, it's like a house, right, It is a a one structure. Usually even a big one is fairly small.

There are only so many places you can be. And yet if you are on a boat in the ocean, the irony is you're on this very contained vessel end of least contained space in the world. And so it's both like overwhelming because once you jump off that boat, it's just no man's land. But in the boat it is, you know, a tiny room. And I love when those two things like work against each other and work with each other.

So I feel like it is such a good setting. I understand why a lot of movies aren't made on them because they're expensive. Anytime you're dealing with water, that's a lot you have to know how to film if you're filming on a boat or creating a boat, because you want that whole like structure of like you want to make sure you know the geography. And it's kind of in some ways, it's sort of like it's like space and spaceships, but very different, right, the difference being if you jump off a boat, you have a chance. If you jump out of spaceship you do not.

Oh yeah, no, you're done. We've all seen Mission to Marks. We know what happened, we know what happens to So with that being said, do you like boats? Also? Like do you ride boats?

What is your boating experience? Captain Christine? So, I used to take the ferry every morning to work for about like a year and a half, maybe a little longer. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I used to take the Staten Island ferry just for like a larf, because why not.

I don't like small boats. They make me nervous. Honestly, I don't like big boats. They make me nervous. I don't like the water.

It makes me nervous, just like space. I feel like there's just some places we don't belong. I get it. Yeah, in the water it's one of them. But I like a boat.

I've never been on a cruise. They seem gross and weird. They's terrible. Yeah, but like sure, a boat. You know that's how we used to go places, right, Yeah, I am.

I think both you and I grew up in places that were near water and involved ferries and boats on occasion. So I. Don't ever I was trying to think this through. Do I know anybody that owns a boat, like an actual like boat they would take out? And I think it was like friends of friends of friends when I was a kid, like some somebody would occasionally be like, Hey, we're gonna go on my uncle's boat, but it wasn't a common occurrence.

And I'm the reverse of you. I like a small boat. I don't. I don't like fairies. I've had to I have to take them here and there.

Obviously Long Island, Connecticut and all that. I find fairies kind of make me feel the same way buses do. I get a little nauseous on them. It's like too much of that like mix of like big mechanical smells but also the ocean, and I don't like when they mix. But like little like canoes, like a canoe.

I like like little like oh, we're hopping in this boat to go like from fire island to the other island, like that kind of thing. So I like them. I don't know never uh, never had a terrible experience in one yet oh shit, just waiting for it. But again, it's it's a good place to set something. So with that being said, we both of us just made our own lists.

I have no idea what's on Christine, she doesn't know what's on mine. Of movies we enjoy on boats, and then there's some other stuff going on. So Christine, without further ado, tell me about one of your favorite boat movies. So one of my favorite boat movies would have to be Dead Calm. Yep, that's on my list too.

I started big because why not, like why bother easing into it? So Dead Calm does what you were talking about really, because it's not just a boat. It's like dose boats. There's two boats. There's the boat in peril and then the boat that Nicole Kidman.

Is on, and it does so much with so little. It it uses when I want, when I say a good boat movie, I want to. Be told a story that could literally not be told anywhere else. Yes, and that story cannot exist outside of the boats in that movie. And and then also it's a good movie on top of it, with really good performances like really Zane and Sam Neil.

And it's like very of the time even but like a really strong thriller that happens to be on a boat. It was. It was the first one I thought of when I was trying to think it through, because I think you make the great point this is a movie that is only works on a boat like that is a huge part of it is this middle of the ocean. Nobody can hear them, nobody can find them. You don't know what to trust, so you you decide to help Billy's an because he's you know, seems like he needs help.

Yeah. I Also I love something I love about like any kind of beach set movie or a movie that's like takes place in a environment like that, is the idea that like, yeah, you're always wearing beach clothing, right, that means like sometimes you're not wearing anything, like you're just in a bathing suit, You're just in shorts. Like there's something about that that vary to me, like immediately puts me in that space because. You're going like vulnerable, right it is. Yeah, really Sane is like in teeny tiny swimming trunks for most of that movie, and he is at his like peak fitness, and I mean he is like a specimen in that movie.

And he is also fucking terrifying scar yep. And that he is like just so bare in it just makes it that much more horrifying. There's a That's a movie that to me also always I always think of it like as a weird exception of a movie. It's the one exception where I'm like kind of rooting for the this is terrible to say out loud, kind of rooting for that dog to die because that dog is kind of an asshole in that movie. Ah, I love that dog.

It's a great dog. And he actually read from one I remember watching that movie when I was dog sitting and the dog I was dog sitting was like hated other dogs. So whenever he heard barking, he would flip out, So I kept having to mute the movie in the dog part. So that's a personal thing. But also like there's a great moment where Nicole Cammin throws the keys off the boat to like because then you know Samuel is trying to get the boat or not Samuel, Billy Zan's trying to get it away from them, and the dog goes after them and brings them to Billy's ay and not her.

But that also could speak to her and not being a good dog dog a dog on her. So I digress, Dead Calm. A great boat movie. It really is. And if you have not seen it, or you're a little bit put off for some reason by like the nineteen what is it eighty nine?

Eighty nine? Yeah, geez, the nineteen eighty nine, like timestamp on it, Come. On, get over yourself. Let's let's Australia, so for all you know, that's still how they are. Come on, for real, it's it is.

It is very it's got a dreamy quality. I don't know, it's really great. It's the waters. I love to a boat movie. The water is very blue, Like that's important to me in a movie.

Yeah, it's it sets the stage. It's great. I want to watch it right now. Excellent choice, good choice us. All right, so I'll go with the next one.

Then. I wonder if this one made your list, because this is a movie that, while the boat is not what you think of in the movie, I think the fact that the ensemble cast is on this boat for most of the movie does affect a lot of what's going on, and that is a little classic, a franchise starter, a movie that built careers. I am obviously talking about Anaconda. Oh okay, so this is not on my list. I did see it come up when I was researching other lists.

I just don't have like any fond feelings for this movie. So I would love to hear you talk about it. Well, okay, my older brother Adam, this was his favorite film for a very long time, and he wasn't like a kid when he saw this. He was, I think in his twenties, but he just became obsessed with so funny, and he like made sure as soon as it came on video, He's like, you have to watch the Anaconda. And I did, and I actually really enjoyed it, and I still do.

I think anaconda is one of those, like I hate to be like, they don't make them like this anymore, but there is something about anaconda that feels very You get that kind of movie every once in a while where you have this very hot just before a lot of them are famous, asked right. You've got Jennifer Lopez kind of right ish, she's gonna make it big. But then you also have like, what's his name? Eric? Why am I suddenly blinking on?

Eric Stoltz. You have Air Stoltz there, you have a young Owen Wilson. You have John Voight, just I mean, John Voight terrible, terrible human being, idiot, all these things. But when John Voight is an anaconda, the world forgives him because he's so weird in it, and a lot of the like, you know, kind of you're in the Amazon, but yet you're claustrophobic because you can't really run out into the forest and because you're going to get eaten by something, maybe an anaconda, maybe something else, so instead you're on this kind of rickety old boat for much of it. So I don't know, it's not a movie I think of often with the boat itself but it is a big part of the movie.

You're right. I've seen it a few times. It just never connects with me snating, but doesn't the snake eat John Voight hole It. Does, and then it spits him out, and then John Boight comes out on his knees and he winks at Jennifer Lopez and then does It's beautiful spoiler alert to Annaconda. That is what I remember about it.

It's a beautiful moment. Beautiful moment. Ooh, I have a really good one. Yeah, so this movie I like doing the lead up. This movie is pretty much universally reviled, if not completely forgotten about, except for its opening.

It also has one of the best title cards of all fucking time. And I will fight you in the street if you disagree. It's ghost Ship obviously, and I've still only seen the opening of ghost Ship because that is a fucking great opening. It's so it's it's a tremendous opening. It kind of speaks to what you were saying about Anaconda past.

Wise, there's not a single person in this cast that you don't recognize. That's just a fact. You know, you might not know why you know them when you're looking at them, but you one hundred percent have seen them in a bunch of stuff. And I like that feeling, especially like in an early two thousands movie. It feels very nostalgic.

So for a very long time, obviously people would be like, kind of like, what's that one without the House with Matthew Lillard Thirteen Ghosts. For a while, people were like, thirteen Ghosts is awful, but I kind of like it. Oh wait, no, it's good. That's kind of how I feel. Well.

I feel that way about thirteen Ghosts, but I feel that way about this too, about Ghosts Ship. The last time I watched it, I went, oh, wait a second, this is a good movie. Everyone's wrong. We didn't know. We didn't know.

It was one of those where like we had it's on a boat, it's on a ship. Yeah, and all these actors act in their asses off. Julianna Margalli's like scrapping out ocean liners. What are we talking about here? People?

Why are we not all on board with this? I need to watch it. I need to sit down and watch it. Be getting ten because I have. I have watched the first five minutes of it.

It shows up, you know, what. It shows up a lot during Halloween on AMC. It's one of those movies in the rotation. One of these days, I just I need to just stream it and actually watch it in its entirety. I think it's interesting and it's got kind of like intrigue and a twist, and it's like, what's actually going on here?

The order that people like die or aren't there anymore in is really interesting and nice. I don't know, and kind of like what I said, you can't really tell this story not on a boat. Yeah, that's important and it's cool. I think everyone should watch this one as well. I'm going to.

So I'm gonna go on that note with another spooky movie, and it's one I only discovered this past year. I was on Amazon Prime. I don't know where it is now. It's a nineteen seventy something TV movie called Satan's Triangle and it is a it's very short, it's like seventy five minutes even that, and it's like two coastguard pilots land on a boat that's just in the middle of the ocean. They don't know why it's there, and they can't get ahold of anybody, and they land and there is a woman it's Kim Novak, like a kind of in an odd time in her career, and there's meanwhile, there is a priest hanging from like the big mast, and there is another dead body and she's there saying like this is haunted, something is wrong.

And it is just a really good, spooky, quick made for TV ghost story. It's very seventies. It has a great ending, really wonderful ending, and again, like you're saying, it's just the guy lands on this boat and then that's it, Like he's there. There's only so many places he can go on this boat until he waits for help to come, if it's going to come. And it's spooky.

It feels very like you can. You feel like you could turn this into like a campfire ghost story very easily. And I found it so rich and I hope more people find it so Setan's. Triangle, I think I remember you mentioning it. I was very excited when I did.

Yeah, yeah, that sounds good. Good times. I think you'd like it. It's interesting too, because I have a few spooky boat movies, and it seems like you you have a few spooky boat movies. It's a good cross section.

It wouldn't you wuldn't necessarily think it would be. But so that brings me to Triangle. I had a feeling this would be on there. Yep, I had a tentatively online. But I'm like Christine's gonna say, wait.

You you were a champion of this movie for a while and I didn't see it until, like I can actually check because I have it logged semi recently. Twenty twenty two was when I first watched. Yeah, I feel like I caught it quickly after everybody was talking about it back what is this two thousand and like not nine? Wow? Wow, I pulled that one out.

Yeah, so it's if you don't know, it's uh, Melissa George, right, yeah, Melissa George on. A boat to be confused with. Who's the actress that she looks exactly like? Such is an r the one from Silent Hill. I guess it doesn't Rhodemitrate.

No, no, no, let's cape and sell that's something that she's another person to look alike. Yeah, there's a yes, well because Running Hill Rudemitri as the woman. I watched Underworld three the entire time. I didn't realize she wasn't keep bucking sale, Rodi Mitchell, we were That's why you were saying. Roda Mitchell and Melissa George not the same person, correct.

Melissa George is a lovely actress, lovely to watch. I just never really heard people talking about this movie, which is really strange because it's it is fantastic, and I, I don't know. I guess that time period we talk about it sometimes that like late two thousands could be a little touch and go for horror, depending on the creators, the budget where you were looking. So I maybe this was just a case of this was marketed in a way that made me feel like it wasn't for me at the time, and I kind of just had to find it myself. But it is a really fantastic I guess, I don't know.

I wouldn't call it a time loop, but maybe like a time loopy movie, time. Loopy, very heavy time loopy things going on. Yeah, So, like I guess that's a fair way to describe it. There's a lot more going on. But like if you like that kind of like vibe, this movie might not be rejecting to you that that's what it is, but that's what it is.

And it's almost like one of those things where you it's one of those movies where it's great to go in not knowing anything, because then it makes everything really surprising because it starts like a very traditional movie, and then when you realize there's something more going on, it's a big like what But then the flip is like, it's harder to get somebody to watch this movie if you don't convince them like, no, no, no, there's some really cool shit going down. Yeah for real? If it I guess maybe if you thought it was just like a slasher or something on a boat, that might not be as fun as what it really is. Yeah, yeah, good way of looking at it. All Right, I am going to pivot to my other favorite genre, which after horror, would be what musical?

Yes, is this a musical on a boat? There's a musical on a boat? What is there? There's several musicals on boats, So I mean, you've got HMS Pinafore, You've. Got oh, is that the one that that psycho Bob sings?

That's Pinfour. Often confused with the Pirates of Penzance, they are both, and they're both musicals that involve like pirate try and ships and such. However, I'm not here to talk about the Pirates of Penzance. Could Steve make peace? I am I find you might well, I am here to talk about the greatest thing that came out of the Pirates of Penzance, which is a little movie from nineteen eighty two, the year we were both born, the greatest year of all time, not just because we were born, but also because it created this movie.

And this is one of those movies that my older sister was obsessed with as a kid. And for you for like that period of time between let's say, like when we were late teenagers to like late twenties, when it took time to be like, did I imagine this was this a real thing? Because I can't find any information on this movie, and because it was I think did not have a DVD released for a very long time, you couldn't like find people talking about it. In my head, I'm like, it's the Pirates of pans Aance, but it's not the Pirates of Penzance. It's like a modern telling of it, but it's not modern because it is set in old timeies, but then at the end they come back to the new timeies.

It's eighties and what is it. It's like, we should just call it the Pirate Movie. But I don't think that's the title. No, it is the Pirate Movie. That is the title of this movie, The Pirate Movie.

That's quite the journey it is. And again it's like songs from Pirates of Pen's Aance, but they're updated to be like eighties lyrics and such. It's Christy McNichol and Christopher Atkins. I'm checking it out now you have heard like this. I remember.

I feel like I might have made it like a recommend for a Gentleman's Guide back in the day because it had like a little bit of like our community watching it, because I think I was the one that kept pushing it because I'm like, people, this is a real movie. Everybody needs to see it. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't sound completely made up, but like if I'm looking at the cover art on letterbox, it doesn't look familiar, Like the name of it doesn't seem familiar to me. Also, I'm realizing now I do not have a singular movie with any type of pirate or swashbuckling. L Okay, I got there, So that.

Shows where my interests were at Yeah, I never had a pirate phase. Oh I did. I still do. I love a good pirate story. I love that.

I don't know why it doesn't connect to me and with me, and I feel like it's really left me out on an entire like history of filmmaking. Did did you go to Disney as a child? Did you have a moment at Pirates of the Caribbean that like imprinted on you. I've never been to Disney, Okay, because I feel like that for. Me was a big moment of like, this is the coolest three minutes of my life.

Because then for years we didn't have pirate movies, and then every now and then they tried to make one and it would fail miserably. But the Pirate movie was always there in the back of my mind, and I just didn't know if it was real. But it's it's so it's really stupid. It's it's fun like it's intended to. Again, it was contended to, like I think, connect with young people.

It was sort of Xanaduey in that way. But I have not been able to watch it in a long time because it's not that easily defined. But it's it's a good time it's a Parra movie. I mean it sounds kind of like Teen Witch but not really. No, but it is, yeah, I would say even like musically it has a lot in common with Teen Witch, just in the way like these are songs, but they feel like music videos.

But it's sort of trying to be within the story but also not No, it's very much of that era. That's very funny. Well, maybe I'll watch that one day if I'm feeling sassy. So I have one that's completely different, let's hear it. Okay.

So I've seen this movie a few times. The details they elude me because I always watch it when I'm watching a glut of other murder myst but it's probably one of my favorite murder mysteries. And it's fantastic and it's on a boat. It's called The Last of Shila. I don't know what this is.

So when. Knives Out came out or was coming out and back when that was happening, Ryan Johnson mentioned this, okay, as like one of his like seminal murder mysteries or a murder mystery he really liked, or who done it he really liked, and it kind of kicked up people talking about it and finding it. So I watched it for the first time back then, and I guess it's it's fallen a little bit back into obscurity, which makes me sad. But it's like such a good who done it on a boat? I have never heard of it, so I'm really intrigued.

Yeah. It's a year after Shila is killed in a hit and run, her multi millionaire husband invites a group of friends to spend a week on his yacht playing a scavenger hunt style mystery game. I like it. So it's like, and it's what is it seventy three? Yeah, seventy three, so it's like in the seventies and like it has that look and we're doing murder mystery shit and James Koburn is there, so it's like, well, okay, James Mason and this too.

Hold on, yeah, James Mason is there, so come on, I don't know, I'm you know, I'm like, I who done it? Fan? So when you say like things on a boat, my first thing was I was trying to think of my favorite movie in each genre. That would yeah, it happens to me on a boat. I like that approach.

I just certain that I have enough of those. I really like boats, so this this to me, is not just a good boat movie because it does, you know, do that thing we've been talking about. It limits your options like of who did it because it's a boat and what's happening because it's a boat, but also like, yeah, it's it's a good who done it too, so you can't really go wrong. I like it so having gone through the or not gone through, but I like that you have these like super super rare gems of like discovery, and I have reached the portion where I am going to go through the ones that are like the most obvious boat movies, but that I think are very enjoyable. Oh that's great because they're clearly not on my.

Probably not well, you know what, because my first one, it's the it's the first one. Look again, for years we didn't have pirate movies. We had Cut through an Island and it failed miserably, and then everybody was like, we'll never make a pirate movie again. So then cut to the year, I guess it's what two thousand and three, with there's like all this news of this big budget pirate movie in production and all of the the same way they wrote about water World, like all the writing of this movie was that it was going to be such a bomb because it just was not gonna work. But eight came out and I'm like, look, this might be my only chance to see a big budget pirate movie again.

So I went with my friend to see Pirates of the Caribbean and the The Black Pearl. And you know what, I left that movie eating so fucking pumped because that first Pirate Pirates of the Caribbean movie is a blast. I don't really remember it. I remember watching it like on like this, like home media, like some re rented it when it came out, and I think that's the one that heavily features the monkey. Right, there's there's the monkeys and all of them, but he's definitely in that one a lot.

He's Jeff because he's Jeffrey Ush's monkey. There we go. Yeah, Yeah, he's like stealing things and everything. Yeah, And I remember being like, Wow, this monkey is really great. And that's I always think back, like, well, if that was my immediate reaction, I clearly was not connecting with anything else, but I think that's so wild.

I didn't. So did you. Fall off? Did you not enjoy them or did you just stop seeing them. I watched the first I saw the for the trilogy, I guess if you will.

And I think that first film is just it feels so fresh because you did not have a movie like that that invests did so much money into like big set pieces, Like yes, like the actual ghost stuff is very cgi heavy, but they're also on a friggin' ship, like they are they are in the ocean filming it, and so a lot of those stunts, a lot of like the boat feels like a boat, like you understand the geography of that boat. I think it's cast really well. I think I like this was that era where I remember being very like, I'm team Kiera Knightley, not team Natalie Portman. If Kiera Knightley had been Padme, then the Star Wars movies would have been better because I think Kiera Knightley is like a star is born in the first Pirates movie.

I think she's like great and energetic and like you root for her and I know he is a trash human being. But at the time, and even upon rewatch of that first film, Johnny Depp in Pirates comes into a movie like a Disney movie that is a two hundred million dollar movie. Probably at the time, i'd have been less and says I'm gonna do my own weird thing and and it's gonna work, trust me on it. And apparently like the entire you're filming like every day, the producers were like, you need to reel him in. He needs to stop doing that, and they didn't, and it did work because he actually did know what he was doing.

In this very traditional you have your young heroes, you have your young romance, and then you have this weird outlier of a character that makes that movie really something weird and special. And then the problem is Part two comes and you realize, oh no, now they're really like trying to draw this out into a lot of movies and then getting a little tired of the shtick. And then Part three comes. I don't remember anything about Part three by the time that happens, and I think they made what like three more that I've just never even bothered with. There's a surprising amount every time that I look, I'm like, oh, I didn't realize they.

Made one in X year, right, And like how many different subtitles there are? Like I'll try to do trivia with them, and I'm like, Okay, here's the Black Pearl and wait, dead Man's Chest or Booty of the Something or Davy Jones Live, I don't know. And I realized like, oh no, I have seen a tiny midgeon of this series, and yet all the movies are two and a half hours long. Yeah. Yeah, but I will vouch for that first one.

I get that. I mean it was it was a different time, and you're not wrong about like the sets and the costuming obviously, and the commitment to trying to make it this be this whole world. It clearly paid off because it land launched this franchise we're now complaining about exactly. So yeah, I think what's funny is when you started to describe that movie, I was like, wait a second, is she talking about my next movie? But you're not.

I'm not. Also in two thousand and three, this is a movie that I only saw once very recently, and I'm terrified to watch it again because I'm afraid it'll lose the magic of that first time. I can't believe such a poetic, beautiful, masculine, gorgeous movie exists, and like people don't talk about it all the time, it's Mastering Commander the Far Side of the World. Oh, that was the next one on my list. Yep.

But also in two thousand and three. I didn't know. I had forgotten that they were the same year because I think because both of those ended up being surprising Oscar movies. Yeah, that's weird, and I guess it was in the zeitgeist we were feeling. Both suddenly were like, let's do it, Let's go to the ocean.

Yeah, Master Commander of the Press of the World. Is it like it's one of those movies show to anyone and nobody's gonna want to watch it. Nobody's gonna be like outside and what a two and a half hour movie with the Russell Crowe about like ships, but it's not even about pirates, it's just about what now? And yet you sit anybody down for that movie. I remember I was so excited to show to Branninguse he'd never seen it, and he was like, I don't remember.

I'm like, no, trust me, sit down, you're gonna love it. And so over I look at him and he's like that's great, Like yeah, yeah, it's it's like the way there's a handful of movies that you can like mention in any room, and you know you're gonna have people be like, yeah, great movie. And that's when. Yeah, and you want to fold your arms about it for real, you want to be very like Because I actually only watched that in twenty twenty three. So I remember when you watched it.

I was so sad for you. And I think Zach championed it and I and we had been doing a lot of sub movies, like I love submarine movies, and he was, you know, in the spirit of that this is actually a good movie, and you like Russell Crowe. I do like Russell Crowe a lot of the time. And I still went into it like me, I don't like me, I. Don't like yes, And then it was daunting.

It's because it's historical, but it's not action like yep. It's riveting and gorgeous and poignant and just like like heartbreaking it is it's about male relationship. Oh my god, what a movie. God, Master and Commander the Person of the World. So good cinema, yep, yep.

I wondered if it would be on yours because I was like, well, it was like the second one. I thought of I'm like, god, it is the traditional pick, but. For a reason, it's the first on my list. I just I just didn't didn't say it first because I didn't want to be a hack. All right, So what is your next one?

So this is again a movie I have not seen in a very long time, which feels silly putting it on here, but it is not only one of my favorite movies from this director, but it's one of my favorite, like truly limited location films of all time. Okay, and that would be life Boat. I knew it. I was about to start a probing questions and it does it involve Yes? Yeah, it's Tulula Bankhead in it.

Yes. Uh. So this is one of my favorite Hitchcocks' And if you don't know or haven't heard me talk about it in a million years, Hitchhock is one of my favorite direct directors. And I know people have things to say about that, but for me, I just it's just him. So so, uh, life is a bunch of people stuck in a lifeboat.

So it's kind of got that. I know I'm oversimplifying it, but that like twelve Angry Men kind of feel oh. No, completely like I like was it a stage play it first? Honestly, I think it might have been. Yeah, I mean it's Steinbeck, right, I'm not quite sure that I'm.

Almost positive to actually read this. I'm not looking at it right now. Hold on nineteen forty four. It is a story by Steinbeck. Oh okay, I thought I maybe was made it up up.

Now I need to read that story. M I don't know a. Ton of but like, I didn't dig a ton into it. I've read like critique and like analysis of it, but I don't know a lot about the actual production of it. But I love I'm a sucker for that kind of like we're all trapped here and all there is to do is discuss it kind of thing, and this really does that well and everyone's really likable.

I watched this for the first time probably in the twenty tens, and it's a forties film. It's black and white, and again I just say, don't let the time period that a movie was made in dissuade you from watching the movie, because it's such a human story, and like the it's about conflict and conflict resolution I guess at its heart, and it's all relevant, like anytime you get people stuck in an awful situation. There's this infighting, there's this who's worthy of what and when type of stuff. So it's a real great exercise I guess in that and I love it, and honestly I should rewatch it. I should too.

I remember watching that for the first time as a child, like I don't think I was older than ten, and it was wo on. I already knew Hitchcock, and so I think I must have known it was a Hitchcock movie and I was like, oh, yeah, I'll watch this. Oh I like life Boats. But I don't think I have not revisited it as an adult, and I really need to because I just always remember enough about it even then, and I mean to a little bankhead, I didn't know everything I knew about her Ben, but I remember just being riveted by this woman and maybe it was on like a TCM type channel where afterwards they would talk about it. I feel like I must have had context, and it would have been before the internet.

Yeah, but yeah, I need I need to read this. A Lifeboat got me excited for that now. Yeah, it's it's it's a great it's that type of story. It's a great version of it was great of the time cast and it just stars. It's it's great.

It's weird and I say this not having done research for just assuming it's weird that this hasn't been like remade twelve times. That's interesting. Does it feel like something every couple of years that you'd be like, Okay, we're gonna tell it, but instead it's gonna be about about anti Semitism. It's gonna be about uh translated like because there's a lot of that too. There's a lot of me like who is the other in this case?

And it just feels like you could constantly update that story for a different time and place. But I don't know that it's ever had a remake. It surprises me what does and what Hitchcock does and doesn't get remakes and what has been because I was actually one of the few people that was like really up for Birds Redo if they could do it in an interesting way, I think because there's like environmental implications in it, and actually you get into that in Burdemic, which which which is the closest thing. I guess we're gonna get some birds. Too, Lance End, which was they made for Showtime Seqol in nineteen ninety something that might have had a little more of the environmentalism to it too.

I think it did. It's been I don't think i've seen that since I have seen Burdemic, which is a while now. I haven't watched it in a minute, but like, yeah, I think a lot of that, those like class stories could do with a little bit of a refresher, a little bit of an updating. So apparently there was a nineteen ninety three made for TV film called life Pod that was lifeboat in a spaceship capsule, not the same. I know we can't talk about it as a boat movie, but cch Pounder was in it.

So I go, I'm gonna do what I can define this. That's cool. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna go to my next obvious pick. But look, the other part about boats is that few things are more terrifying than a like what would you call it? A boating?

Not a boat crash, but like a sinking boat A boat. Yeah, I'll wait, shit, fuck, Okay, I guess maybe you took it from me, but god, I might have go ahead. It's another It's well, until what nineteen ninety six, this would have been the I think the most famous boat movie of all time, most successful financially. I did not see it until probably about five years ago, and I it is uh, and that is the Poseidon Adventure. So this is yep, nighteen seventy two's the Poseidon Adventure one hundred percent.

My next one it is this cast. I've been talking a lot about casts. This cast is one of the best casts ever assembled to day. If you, if you will, yep, yep, it's amazing. So Gene Hackman, Ernest Borgnine, Roddy McDowell, Shelley Winters, Leslie Nielsen there, and that's just like I just scanned it really fast, and I just missed a ton of people.

There's a ton of people and I didn't expand it. Everyone's so good, I would say. So the conversation is probably my favorite Gene Hackman movement movie. But this is like. Maybe my favorite Gene Hackman performance if I could, if I could take them apart like that.

He is just such a fucking star. What is he doing in this movie? It is the way that he commands you to pay attention to him even when he shouldn't be is like almost like offensive, like stop it bro a movie's happening. Stop pulling focus, but like in the best way. Yep, yep, it's so good, Emily, And it's just it's so big budget.

It's so big. It starts with a ball, right, there's like a New Year's party, so everybody is dressed glamorous, glamorlessly glamorously in the seventies. So you've got sequence, you've got jewels, you've got like disaster after disaster in different ways, right, because it's not just like, oh, we're sinking. It's like, oh no, we're sinking, and then you have to climb up this thing and then jump over this thing, and it's like every action set piece is something new and scary and you just lose people along the way and you get Shelley Winters saving the day and gloriousness and it's just, yeah, it's it is. I was so excited to watch it because I had never seen it and I'd been like, we don't have to think again.

It was a TCM was on there one day self recorded that I was like, oh, this is one that like I've kind of been like, without realizing it, I've been saving it for like one of those nights when I wanted something big and it's that it's so much that. It and it doesn't I know, like we could potentially, like as people not of this time period, lump a lot of like the disaster fair that came out together because there was a glut of it, right, so much. Yeah, but I would say they just watched all of the airports. Yes, there was a lot, right. So, but I would say that there's definitely like a hierarchy to someone start and this movie though, if you think that this is just going to be like disaster crap with like very little budget and just no like.

Right, like staring around and doing their thing like Nope, nope, movie. Down and dirty like the you're honestly like, so I'm going to talk briefly about another movie that kind of is tangential to this, but like the way that you feel for everybody because everybody doesn't make it obviously, and people have to make sacrifices as they do in these types of films, and it's like heartbreaking in this You're. Like, oh no, this, this person's not gonna make it. And I think sometimes that that might fall flat in the less successful versions. Of these movies, like the remake.

I the Remake is really I was wondering if we were going to touch on it. It's really disappointing, especially when this exists. The remake is I mean jaw dropping in how like when you want to kind of think back of like what was the world, we say a lot of how like, oh, you know, this is the dark timeline? Is that remake is? What two thousand and five six?

Maybe? Yeah, it's a great reminder that we have come a long way, because there is so much in that just politically in that movie of how all the people of color die immediately you're left with all of these awful white people who are selfish and terrible and rich. There's some wild stuff going on in that movie, and it's just not good. Like the sequences aren't that good, the the the the way in Posidon Adventure you are holding your breath because you are thinking can she make it? And in the remake you're like, okay, it's been eight minutes, he'd be dead.

Nobody can make it. You're making this ridiculous. It's yeah, it's. Uh yeah, there's there's no excuse for something to be that ineffectual, Like when we have evidence that right. When there was like a blueprint, right there for you to its done.

No, no, no, it's not that like it's too hard to do, Like you just didn't do it right right right, it's frustrating. Yeah, whereas like a weird comparison to that, and they're not like on my list, but I'll just say them now because I'm actually I think out of my my list is pretty much done. Is is It a Night to Remember? And Titanic, which are very I mean Titanic very much is a remake of that film when you actually like even a lot of the detailed plot elements are there and you can see like Titanic made sense for doing this because basically they took all of the things that work about that, about that movie and about the Titanic disaster, the orchestra playing and the dancers downstairs and all this, and then it just said, okay, but if we give it more money and a lot more stuff that we throw at it, we're going to make the most epic film of our time.

And it works on that front. You still haven't seen Titanic, have you? I have never seen titan fascinating. It's fascinating to me that you escape that. And again I say this out of affection because I do like Titanic.

I can't ever imagine sitting down and watching it again on all three and a half hours. But it is shocking to me that you missed literally the biggest movie of our time for a very well, very long time. It was, you know, I've discussed it before. I think it was. I tend to have a thing that I do where I maybe am am like purposely counterculture for no real reason other than that I don't want to be populist or I don't want to put a flow to much.

I don't know who I'm what I'm doing, or who I'm proving it to. But I think at the time I wasn't interested in it, and the fact that the world wanted me to be made me want to be. It's the watch something, I'm with you, and we were young at the time. I'm pretty sure we were the exact demographic of that movie without it meaning to I think. I think I was watching watching Lion King in the movie theater when that was and it's like, I just I'm not here with you, guys.

I don't I don't get it. And then that song was everywhere, and I think it did become something at a point where I just said, like, no, I'm good. I don't need to watch it. I get it. I get it, which is fun because we talk about a lot.

Sometimes if you don't actually see the thing, you only get references. You don't really get it. And and like I I don't know, man, I lived through that. I feel like I got it. I got a girl like like draw me like your French girls, like I think eighty four years, I got the idea.

I mean anything, I will say it does give you another view into Billy's Anne on a boat. Honestly as a villain, he's really the only reason I would show up. And how let's be real, it's two VHS tapes. How much of that movie is he really in a fair amount? Fount?

I would say, if you're billing that movie, I would put him maybe like fourth billed. He's he's got more screen time than you think. Honestly, he's wearing too much clothing. I but then you could say, well do you know how much he's on screen? And Demon, Oh, well, come on, Christine, Demon Knight jumps everything.

You can't just you can't bring in a gun to a knife fight. If I really not just jumped. Yeah, come on, Demon Knight, what's your next movie? So these I began to kind of be more like this has an element on a boat. Okay, so honestly like jays and Takes Manhattan, right, which.

An element meaning three quarters of that movie? But what good? I know? But they want you to think that it's not all going to be on a boat, right. It's not billed as a boat movie.

It's not. No, it's it's it is actually just a cruise to New York City with ten minutes in New York City. Uh. The first time I saw it, I was shocked, honestly. Oh yeah, yeah, there's just so much like just being in the bowels of a ship, like grates and stuff.

Yes, it's weird. H for me, it's always it's the disco scene. When is it Kelly Hugh is in like the party room on that boat. I was like a good ballroom in a boat. No, that's so fun.

Yeah, Like the geography of the boat is really weird in that, right. I don't think it's. Like I'm not making all that up. I remember. That's the reason I put it on this list because I know it's not solely on a boat and the focus isn't the boat.

The focus is supposed to be Manhattan. That's like when I think, yeah, you're we've talked about this. They didn't even no effort on making it look good, no whatever. But when I think of the movie, I think of the boats stuff. As you should, because it is three quarters of the movie.

It's so such a bizarre Now I want to rewatch that. Yeah, if we're moving two movies that are like with big sequences on boats, yeah, then I have a few there. So one of them is I'll go with the nineteen what is it? Sixty something on the Beach one of one of my favorite, one of my favorite End of the world films, one of my favorite End of the world stories. Definitely.

The novel's very good. There's a mini series adaptation of it as well, which I've only seen one so I don't remember quite as well. But the film with Gregory Packs an Ava Gardner, lots of good people in it, and it is the basically disease has wiped out the entire world and it is slowly moving through the entire planet, and Australia is the last to go because of where they are situated. They've been able to escape it for a long time, but it's coming to them. It's inevitable, they know it.

But there is an American ship that was stationed in Australia at the time this happened. So and Gregory Pack is the captain of that boat, and they say they decide to try to see if they can get you know, they hear a signal and they think maybe somebody else is out there, maybe there's a cure, let's try it. So the majority of the movie is not on the boat. It is in Australia. It is people kind of figuring out what they're doing at the end of the world.

But there is a rather touching sequent t like deep sad sequence where the crew does get on the boat and travels to see what they can find, and what they find is not very reassuring, but it is a you know, a strong sequence on a boat if you will. I love that. That's great. That's similar to one of the ones on my list. Let's hear it.

This movie is very long for no reason, and they're on great many different transportation devices in this film, but it's all leading to getting them on these big fucking boats. And that would be twenty twelve. They have a big boat sequence at the end of that, because you know, on twenty twelve the world is ending, and so. Is it they have to get because I've never seen twenty twelve. Is it to get to the boat in order to survive?

Is it like a pulse thing? Uh huh? Okay, so yeah, twenty twelve is basically like my husband and boyfriend, John Cusack is a guy and he is around the world ending, and he happens to get information about like, oh, they knew this was going to happen, and they have this like thing set up to save people. So I have to get my family there to save them. And I think they think it's supposed to be like spaceships, but they're actually like water ships.

Okay, So like it's a surprise when they get there that it's boats. Okay. I like. I like that idea. I like in general the There was a novel I read recently that I think we'll probably get adapted somewhere called Cold People that was a similar like the world Like aliens have come and said the world's ending, yet the only place we're not going to kill is Antarctica.

So get on a boat and get to get Antarctica and we'll let you live. So it's like the first chapter is everybody on boats trying to get into Antarctica, and it is a like similar like where just the the idea of like, oh, this is my salvation on a boat is kind of terrifying. It it is, right, so that that is the most interesting part for me, Like I like, I get different things out of that movie. But like with the end, it's an extended sequence of them like getting onto the boat and a bunch of people loading onto the boat and like how many people can fit on the boat. Oh yeah, I always love that one of those sequences.

So it is and then they're like get everybody in, who the fuck cares? We gotta close this thing up because the title wave it's coming like nice, I don't know. It's very dramatic at the end, so I figured I would count it. Okay, I'll say my favorite boat sequence, my favorite action boat sequence in a movie Indiana Jones The Last Crusade. Honestly not on my list, but absolutely something that I would say.

It's an amazing boat sequences. It's great, it's Spielberg at his height, and I mean that that is my favorite Indiana Jones movie that is probably my top fifty. It's so good. It's so good. There's recently every time that's one of those, Oh it's on cable, Okay, well just leave it on because I will just watch it again.

It was once, it was on twice in a row. It ended and started, and I'm like, just leave it on. I'll watch it on because it's so good. But that boat sequence is just thrilling and no longer than it has to be, and it's just great. And that is like, to me, the epitome of boat chase.

That is a really good call. I have a fun boat entry that's not really good at all, but I like to cheat. I only put this because for me, when the boat is like, that's why we're here. We're here to get to the boat. Okay, I have I have included the boat the ending boat sequences in Dawn of the Dead remake.

Oh that's good. That's good because so it's very inconsequential, like but also not so if you know, if you haven't seen that one, the whole point is they're getting they don't know where to go. They're gonna get out of them all and they're gonna take a boat. They're gonna try to get to an island that doesn't have anybody on it to be safe. It's great, but the boat part is only right at the end.

But as the boat part happens, you lose, you know, arguably the best character in the movie. Yes, you don well, quite a few actually on. It, that's true. You wipe out everybody. You get like three or four people and the dog and the dog and the dog actually get on the boat.

And then it's like handheld stuff that tells you like. Walking out of my theater. I've seen it three times in the theater, so I'm like, people, sit. Down, you got to watch this part. And it's just so hopeful and hopeless at the same part at the same time.

And there's like this really great shot of Ving Raims on the boat and he has like you know, like a billowing American flag behind him, and for me, that just so encapsulates like the post nine to eleven energy of the fucking movie. Yeah, and it's just on this boat this like sign of freedom, but also they're just boating into worse and worse circumstances. Yep. I love it. It's something I've I've seen it come up a lot in like zombie fiction.

I feel like I've written more than one novel where it's like they get on a boat and they're like, Okay, great, we're off land. We're safe. Fuck, what do we do now? We can't eat anything. Maybe you can fish, maybe you could catch seagulls if you're lucky, but like, you're on a boat in the middle of nowhere.

Now what. Maybe it's the kind of world like a zombie the movie Zombie where great, we're on a boat. Oh and the boat's the thing that actually brought the zombies over to New York City. So yeah, that didn't help us much. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what it comes down to. I have probably one more movie that I'd actually have two more one. I'm just gonna throw out a title that's terrible, but it's just very funny. I don't think this was intended to be like an asylum version of ghost Ship. But there is a movie called Haunted Boat that is one of the dumbest horror movies I've ever seen.

It was that period of time where like I would find anything I could and watch it, and this movie is bizarre. Uh, And I don't know a single soul who has seen it other than maybe the people that made the movie. So if it ever haunted boat, it's called hunted boat. Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, then I started to type it and I was like, that can't be what she really is.

It's like early it's like two thousand and eight probably, it's like a bunch of hot people are on a boat that's haunted obviously haunted boat, and I think one like they're all responsible for, like the death of somebody, so like it's one of these like a cursors and put on them. But it's all their biggest fears come to life on this boat. And there's like Goblin at one point, is it I know what you did last boat? Kind of but you're giving it a lot more credit than it deserves. But I just felt I need to shout it out because there aren't many low budget horror films on boats.

Honestly, it looks like it might be on to be it's. Oh, it's such a too B movie, that's where it belongs. Definitely. Yes, it's only ninety seven minutes if I'm looking at the right thing, So yeah, they made. Every one of those minutes count.

Please watch it, tell me what you think, haunted boat, hunted boat. I'm on a haunted boat. Then my last one was going to be where like it's kind of the reverse of your twenty twelve, where it's all about getting to the boat. This is a movie that kind of has to happen because of a boat. It's in the title even, But yet that is a very small part of the movie.

I know. This is one of those movies that I have not watched in probably thirty years, but as a kid it was always on and I loved it, and I just always remember things about it. And then of course it's also one that if you think a little hard about you realize it's a really fucked up story. And that is Overboard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah it is not recently, but when it came out, I watched the Overboard like read nick Yeah, and that like you know, gender swapped it, I guess, so that it was less weird weird.

Yeah, but like, yeah, that was a movie that was on when I was a kid, But I don't think i've ever like seen it, like as a person that could remember movies. Yeah, I can't. I mean, I'm guessing Kurt Russell and Goldiehan are as charming as ever in that movie. But I imagine if I watched just today, I have a few more issues with it. Yeah, it's it's definitely a strange premise.

Yes, and for those who don't know, it is rather Kurt Russell is like a handyman for this very rich, awful woman, Goldie Han. She falls overboard, as the title implies, she wipes up on the like nobody knows who she is, and her husband's like trying to leave her anyway. But Kurt Russell is in the hospital when they bring her in, and she has amnesia, so he's like, she's my wife because I have five terrible sons and I need somebody to take care of them. So come on, lady, take care of your children. And she doesn't know because she has amnesia, so she does, and that's you know, all fucked up as premises go.

But like, yeah, I mean it really reminds me of like the while you were sleeping kind of premise, yes, which all of it is really questionable about people's autonomy when they can't remember things. I just don't really very much. But again, it also speaks to how good your actors are because you watch while you were sleeping and you're like, oh, no, it's okay. I mean it's singer. Look I love her, so she's fine.

And it's similar. It's like crysln Goldiehan, Like they're made to be together, so it's fine, they'll figure it out. It's okay, and it's not. But with those movie stars it is. No, it's it's completely true.

The remake was Anna Faris and that handsome Latino gentleman whose name I don't know. That's in everything for a while, I don't know. But like it worked because it was charming because you're like, oh, look at these two charming people, right right, Yeah, that's a good pull. Yeah it's again, it's in the title. So do you have any more films?

I don't, but I think that it's fun the way that you approached it, because it started making me think of other things that like the boat is like the lynch pin or like, because I was what is that? Is it romancing the stone? That we were romancing stone? Yeah, that's a boat he brings to there's a city after it. Oh that's right, which is weird.

Yeah, but it's romantic because then they're on a boat in Manhattan. Somehow it works. Yeah, but see that that's a good movie. That that's a boat. I guess I think of because it popped.

Into my head. It's it's a very big scene, so I think sometimes that's a big part of it. And the I feel like we had more boats in the eighties. Maybe it was that like yuppie culture, that yachts were a bigger thing. No, I think you're probably right.

It's not really like I think it now. It signifies the ultra rich, right, Oh, you know what I came across. I don't want to make this too long. I know we're rapid up, but I was looking at lists for boats. I had my main list, but I was looking for inspir you know.

So I actually happened across. I believe it might have been the two thousand and eight film I could be wrong in the year called Donkey Punch. Do you remember that. I do remember docu Pun because I watched Donkey Punch very closely after or before watching Haunted Boat, and they're similar in some ways. That's that's interesting, but not surprising.

I have seen Donkey Punch as well. I hate it. Yeah, I don't know if you hate it too. Oh. I remember just being very disgusted, thinking this isn't a badly made film, but I hate this movie and everybody involved in it.

It's one of the reasons it started the magazine. I can see that because but or it would like kind of exemplified like bro horror. Yeah, and again the fact that it was like actually well made made it kind of worse. You put a lot of effort into a really offensive idea. Yes, so that's on a boat, that's my point.

So hey everyone, that's why I brought it up, because it's on like a yacht. So to your point, I think maybe you know the late two thousands boats were for like assholes. Yes, I think it's a good signifier of that. Like I mean even like white Lotus Seasons have done that too, where it's like, oh, if you own a yacht, that tells us everything we need to know about you. It's a good shorthand for a character.

I guess at one point it really could just be like well off or rich or like yeah, and now it's just like like, maybe you shouldn't trust this person because they're gonna they're gonna punch you in the back of the head so hard. While they're having sex with you that you die. Isn't that the plot of Donkey Punch? Yeah? Pretty much?

Hey everyone don't watch that. Well that also takes me to for television. I had too that I wanted to shout out because, one of which was like thinking through of you know, like because a lot of like and doing a lot of this probably for you too, Like it brought up a lot of like eighty stuff or things that we like watch a lot more as kids, And I thought, I realized what I would think of when I thought of boats for a very long time was Bo Brady's house boat on Days of Our Lives. Oh yeah, I watched a lot of Days of Our Lives too, so I can totally boats right. The houseboats had a huge moment in like early nineties, lady eighties, and for whatever reason, on Days of Our Lives, the character of boat lived in a house and you granted you like almost never saw it on water, like you saw the bottom of the boat and then you saw like a little bit of the deck.

But as a kid, it just seemed like this thing that a lot of people did of like some people just live in house, vote some people some what was Bo Bo a cop or he was a retired cop. I can't even remember. But you know I can't remember. I just I got I've watched a lot of it, like when it was all the Bow and Hope stuff. Oh yeah, I was more and Carly but yeah that show Doctor Carly Manning was my favorite character.

What are we doing? And then he had an eye patch? Somebody on my. Patch had an eye patch, Steve Patch. He married Bo's sister Kayla.

Oh is that why he was around so much with the IP? Yes? And Patch was also in whichboard? Oh? Whichboard?

Yeah? Which does not have a boat? Oh? Oh? I like which more?

Uh? The other the non soap opera related television I wanted to shout out is probably my favorite story on a boat uh. And it's like double boat because it's a boat that is stranded and for me, it hits every box because it's also in the Arctic, and it's also kind of like I'm a huge explorer person. It is the one nonfiction subject I can read about without any hesitation whatsoever. I had a fifth grade teacher, Missus McCormack, who was very passionate about his floorers, and it stuck with me forever.

So The television series in question, which is also based on a novel, was the first season of The Terror. What so you know Dan Simmons, the novelist. It's a lot of horror and sci fi. No, what, Christine make Peace? I don't even know what you're talking about.

Okay, just google The Terror season one and you will see Jared Harris, Kieran Hines. Oh, okay, this isn't new, this is much This is from a couple of years ago. Yes, this is not this. The novel was probably I think early two thousands, and then they adapt did it? I want to say it was covid era.

I want to say it was like twenty twenty or so. No, yeah, twenty eighteen to twenty twenty five. Is it still running. No. What they did was they did one season that was based on the book, and then they had a completely unrelated second season that is awful, that has nothing to do with anything.

I'm guessing maybe the show just hasn't officially been canceled yet because I think they were trying to do like American horror story Eskue of, like every season is a different story, but it was different showrunners. So season two just completely divorced from season one. Season one is very closely based on the Dan Simons novel and it is, Yeah, nineteenth century, a crew is stranded in the Arctic and there's a monster. But the monster is like a tiny part of it, because the rest of it is like, Oh, you're on a boat and that's it, and you have rotting canned meat and maybe if you're lucky, you can catch a seal, and so it's it's not just the boat. It's also like, you know, the fact that they are stranded, but it's so good and the cast is so good it never got the attention to deserve, so I would get.

Yeah, it looks decent that honestly, the post or four or whatever the art for it looks familiar, but like the name didn't ring anything in me. It's not surprising. I find it very difficult to keep up with television. Yeah, this one only because I'd read the book, so I had my eye out for it. And this it was on Shutter at one point.

I don't know if it still is, but it's probably streaming somewhere. It aired on AMC originally, think it was on Hulu at one point. That's good to know about about it not really being three seasons, like maybe I could watch it. It's like eight episode. Just watch the eight episodes.

Don't bother with the second one because it's again terrible and unrelated. So that's good to know. M lots of boats, and it's it's. Like boats where it's like they're setting off on an exploration because they're trying to find the Northwest passage. So it's also like you know, the and the book goes into it more detail, but it's all of the like stocking of the food and so they have to go to like the best place to get.

The camp food, and what to do about scurvy. I love scurvy and stories. So it's all like all that boat shit of that era, boat shit where if you were not like taking care of your boat and the people on the boat. And also something I love about that era is like did you know that most sailers couldn't actually swim? Uh No, But I mean that's not super surprising.

I guess the majority of like it was never if you went overboard, you were just dead because you probably couldn't swim. It was not something you learned how to do. That's awful, I know. And It makes every like old timey boat story you watch that much more terrified because you realize, like, oh no, they got stay on that boat. Wow.

I love boat stuff, man, Yeah it's really interesting. Oh yeah, good list. Thank you you as well. Good list. You came up with the idea.

Oh well, I love I like boats, and I think they are a unique storytelling devices, right, yeah. No, I think if you can tell a story on a boat, you are you give yourself this great like limitation in the best of ways, because you now are forced to be in the confines of a boat or you're on the ocean, right, So it's either one or that, and so it's always a fear of falling off. But also this very like you need the geography down, You need to know what works and what doesn't work, what door goes to what, and it just means it just is such rich for storytelling. So yep, I agree. Yeah, Well, good job there, good job boss.

All right, well we have no idea what we're doing next. We can figure that out in a bit, but in the meantime, now go sailing. Oh I don't know a lot of the examples end. Yeah, Like everything we've kind of said hasn't really necessarily said you should go on a boat. Like maybe maybe not after the zombie apocalypse, or with a mentally unwell man who wants to terrorize you, or with.

A guy that's obsessed with Ana Conda's. I guess, be careful who you get on a boat with. I think that the actual lesson is really none of these movies I'm looking at, like through the list, because I was keeping track of them, I do, I mean nte. The Pirate Movie might be the only one where you go on a boat and you end up okay, you have fun with it? Yeah, have fun, you sing, you dance, literally the move spoiler alert.

The end song of the Pirate Movie is a song called give Me a Happy Ending. So that's kind of the only one I would get on. That's my advice. I think that's sound advice. All right, everybody.

Well, with that being said, happy sailing, have. A nice summer. When the gold is rough and you happen, you need to turn the out of the ship and forget your great. Time. This sad.

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