190. Our Bests of 2025

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Will a cop of cominess. Yet for all, Well, welcome to the twenty twenty six Spectacular something like that, Christine. Yeah, there's fireworks going off and we're all very happy to be here. Yeah. I'm in my fancy sweat towns wearing socks, you know, So that's that kind of day.

I'm Emily and you're Christine. I'm Christine. We're the Feminine Critique and it's a new year, so we thought we'd do like, here's all the great stuff we experienced in the past year. Right, Yeah, yeah, that was what we thought. So people do like best of their like their favorite twenty twenty five movies or best of twenty twenty five, which I will delve into us a bit, but I think we're going for a more overall like media experiences that we enjoyed.

In And yeah, the problem with that plane and simply is that I don't watch a new stuff. So like I just pulled up my actual letterbox, which I had done this before, and what the problem was I started going through and like, oh, let me pull like if I was doing, which I used to do way back in the day, like my best of the year, meaning like movies that came out the year that you know you're talking about, and ah, my list on letterbox stops very quickly. Yeah, my list is two rows, not even two rows, and several of those are probably Yeah. I think I watched two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve. I watched less than twenty five movies that came out in twenty twenty five.

Yeah, I didn't watch. I watched some, and I did target some. But I will say, and you know this is no secret if you listen to the show, I don't really approach like straight up dramas anymore. Really, It's just it's a personal preference and I will rectify that at some point probably, But I definitely leaned more into like the horror releases and the genre releases that I was excited about. And I had some disappointments, and yeah, there was a point this year where I was like, well, I don't have favorite movies of the year because like, I'm not responding to anything.

Yeah, but I think I managed to get it back a little bit in the end, Well that's good. Yeah, what I tend to do just because I don't go to the movies very often, so that means, you know, I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. And then the ones I do go to see, like there were a few like that where I'm like, I, you know, I'm still kind of wrapping my brain around Eddington and deciding how I felt about it. And then there's other movies and I'm like, they were good, but you know, the Long Walk was a really good adaptation of The Long Walk, But he isn't the greatest thing I've seen this year. No, I watched movies from you know, longer ago that I probably enjoyed more.

So it's a it's a random mix for me. And then because I was kind of like frustrating myself with not thinking I really had a great movie list, I also pulled up a lot of books that I read this year that I really liked. Just some other media stuff, if you will, content, Christine, isn't that what the kids call it? Kids call it content? And I guess we're supposed to be okay with that.

I guess we're supposed to do. Yeah, media, that's what I could say, because I. Keep like something media. Yeah, and like I'm like, well I have I guess it's mean because when you were talking about multiple things, I guess you have to call it content. But no, it's media, damn it.

Yes, bring back media were. Twenty six to hear media. Media. Well, so do you want to talk about then? If you have a couple twenty actual twenty twenty five movies, do you want to get those out of the way.

Sure, yeah, hit me, okay with what you got. Okay, I'm gonna go for some of the like the littler ones that like I liked but didn't love again the long walk I thought. I actually the more I have thought about it, the more I really don't like the ending. I don't like the last minute. Did you see it?

No, I haven't left it. I mean, best case scenario, cry until I vomit. Worst case I'm just going to be bored. So like it was just wasn't where I was at. No, totally get it.

It is. It's funny because when it came out, my brother actually came like into where I live to see it with, so we can go to see it with our niece. My niece his daughter and and I would say to Brand and I'm like, oh, do you want to come? Like He's like, well, I'd love to see your brother. He's like, but I really don't want to see that movie.

And I'm like, I'm not going to talk you into it, because yeah, it's bleak. I think The Long Walking is as the best case scenario adaptation of that book, really well cast, really smartly shot. It reminded me so much. And this was what was so funny about it reminded me so much of the First Hunger Games in terms of how it set this sort of depression era lottery esque atmosphere because it's doing that, like it takes place in this kind of asked future if you will, and it's not it's deliberately visually kind of not I don't want to say bland, but like un posing, because it should be. It really should just be the Stark story about these boys.

And it's great, it's really good. I just don't like the decision with the ending. But also knowing the ending of the book, and I'm not gonna say if it's the same or not, I understand how difficult an ending to that movie is, or an ending to that story and I think what works on the page works. I actually really like how the book ends. Whether that would work on screen, I'm not gonna say, but so it's it was good.

It was a very good one. It's just you know, I'm not gonna put it in my favorites of everything. Similarly I said Eddington Sinners. Look, I loved Sinners. Sinners was great, but I also had some issues with it.

But that all that being said, I'm really rooting for it to take everything it can at the Oscars. Yeah. Yeah, and then one other that I'll just throw out. I finally watched K Pop Team in Hunters because everybody has talked about it. It's a fucking delight.

I haven't watched it, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it when I do. You will. It is an absolute delight of a film. I understand why it has been. I believe it's now I considered the most watched Netflix, which again Netflix lies about everything, but I believe it was like their most watched anything, and I get it.

It's great. It's so appealing, it's so like messaging is great. It's very the way it's kind of made by Koreans and about Korean culture. But clearly packaged and such for a broader American audience and so on. Yeah, I think it works really beautifully and I hope it gets more people curious about Korea and so on, just at a light So.

I look forward to watching it when I need something lighthearted. Definitely, definitely. Well, So, I feel like I have a few more and I will rattle them off, I don't. I know that people have issues with sinners, and the only ones I've really heard have been about like from like an Asian perspective, so like that I completely understand and respect and I will never tell somebody they're wrong about feeling that way. For me, it is a perfect movie, and so if I had to pick my absolutely, I've watched I've watched it three times already.

I need to watch it again. My issue with it is so tiny, and my issue with it is I think it is a great film. I don't think it's a great horror film, and I think that's okay. But I had one nagging issue, which is it sets up this siege and then when the siege comes, I feel like it cheats because suddenly there are other people there that aren't there in the setup for the siege and that really bothered me, and I've been meaning to go back and watching it. I've heard I've had other people say to me like, oh, yeah, that is kind of a you know, like other people have noticed it, but it didn't bother them as much.

So again, it's a silly like thing to get hung up on, because other than that, I do think it is not just a great movie, but like an achievement and even the behind the scenes, the way Rang Coogler made that deal to say this is mine in twenty five years, I own this again. I think like the more I think about it, the more I think about what this movie means and is about, I think it is like yeah, man, yeah, like considers all day long. So yeah, so I think that's probably my actual like favorite of twenty twenty five, which I guess is Hack. But then so also Companion. I still have not watched that.

Yeah, so I've The fun thing is too, It's I did something I don't usually do. I've rewatched most of the ones I'm talking about me and so I've watched Companion a couple times now, and it's it is an achievement occasion. Speaking of achievements occasionally a movie will happen, and I will be like, like incensed that I didn't think of it, or that I didn't approach a story that way. Oh that's my number one of the years like that, But I'll save it. I'm mad that I didn't write Companion.

I will sit and I will think and I will be angry, but I'm also glad that somebody gave me companion. Yeah, and I didn't have to do any effort and it just gets delivered to me. So yeah, I enjoyed that quite a bit. And then also The Monkey. Is my I watched The Monkey.

Did you like it? I did? I watched it the other night. It was like ten o'clock at night, and I think I was like doing I was doing something where I like wasn't ready for bed. I'm like, this is fairly short.

Let me let me watch it, like, I know, you really liked it. I feel like a few other people have also made me. Oh yeah, and you know me, I am not the biggest Osgod Perkins fan. It is the the way that movie establishes and maintains that tone, which is a fucking hard tone to do to do a black comedy horror that he is nasty and mean, but is not distasteful like somehow like I didn't feel like bad watching it. I felt okay and like, yeah, I'm allowed to laugh at this thing that is so cruel, Like it was fun.

It was it is so I think when when I first talked about watching it on the show, I said, like Flannagan's got the market cornered on the emotional King stuff. And then like it seems like the zany weird like not to be rude, but like the alcoholic. Kind of Oh my god, I want to make a new Maximum Overdrive. But that's what I mean, like like the addict kind of talk that comes out and the themes that come out in a lot of King's earlier like early early work, that that stuff is. That's what Osgod seems to be really good at doing because he does King shit in long legs and I know you have your your issues with long but like everything with the girl who plays Sabrina, I can't think of her name, Kieran and shipgut yeah, all the stuff with her, She's written like a Stephen King character, so like he just really nails a certain aspect of King really well.

I think what's so funny too about the monkey. Like, because the thing about the monkey that I loved, the tone of it, I loved how funny it was. My issue with him with Black Coat's daughter, it's like, you have a you have something great here, but the script just isn't support Like the script isn't good enough, and I think that movie is dark and mean and does not have a funny bone at all. Long Legs to me, was to me it's it was just a mesh of both a mesh, a mess, a blend. I don't know what I'm making up my own language now.

The thing with Long Legs, like the campiness versus the seriousness didn't blend for me in a way that made any sense whatsoever. Yeah, And it's almost like because the monkey is just pure kind of like mean camp horror, and it's like he needs to he just can't mix them. I think, I don't know, it's gonna be interesting to see him continue to evolve. It's that's really interesting. And I don't want to go too long on this, but I'm I'm reading the script for Long Legs right now.

It's I like, it's fun for me. So I'm like a quarter of the way through it. So I might be talking on in my ass here, but it really struck me reading it that it reads a lot more serious than it played on screen. And you see how close in proximity like Long Legs and the Monkey came out. I wonder how much of the tone stuff is just natural bleed through between plot projects, right right, Yeah, it's interesting, and the script is just it's this reading the script and then looking at it in comparison to the movie, it really does, to me at least feel different interesting.

So it is. It's I find that movie Long Legs specifically fascinating, but Osgoode in general a fascinating filmmaker. All right, let me but go through these real quick. So I did enjoy Queens of the Dead quite a bit. It was still haven't watched it, looking forward to it.

Yeah, one of my most anticipated of the year. It is campy and silly. And if you saw the drag queen vampire movie, yes play it's similar to Slay. It would make a really good double feature. I think.

Also, I thought early in the year and haven't rewatched it. It's opus. Oh well, I still haven't seen that, and I think that's streaming somewhere now. Yeah, I might be. I might have seen it too.

I know that other people, like I haven't heard anybody talk about this in their ear and wrap up. So like, I guess I liked it more than everybody else. But I'm a real sucker for the integration, you know, this of music into movies that's not a musical and I and I think maybe that's what got me in this. Plus it's filmed really well, so I really liked opus. And then I also saw if I had legs, I would kick you.

I am seeing that on Thursday with a director Q and a. Holy shit, that fucking movie. I don't know, man, just know that is upsetting in wiggly as it makes you. It's never gonna hurt you. It's you know, it is in the Golden Globes comedy category.

Oh boy, just I I guess maybe you know when you're like watching a movie and you're like, hey, I'm worried about this, dog, I can't enjoy this. Ye yep, I was worried about everything, but I think you don't have to. I guess, Okay, I'm good, you're safe, good, You're good. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. And then I guess The last one I'll really call out is the new Horror in the High Desert if you're following the Horror in the High Desert series anyone.

The fourth one came out, and it's my favorite one. That there were more of them, I justly still only seen the first one, and I loved it so much and got excited knowing there were there was another one. I didn't know they made three more geese out. So the fifth one I think is coming out this later this year. Oh wow, they are good for them.

It's they're deep into the lore and I'm a sucker. But like I've thought, this fourth entry balanced like the lore stuff, and how like Pool it looks because the filmmaker is really good with drones and all the drone footage and all like the sweeping footage is so like beautiful and viby. And then I felt maybe like a couple of the entries got a little bogged down in that and it didn't progress the story that much. But this one really does some story shit nice. That's that's really exciting because I completely forgot that was an entire franchise.

Now, yeah, it's exciting too. I'm still always a sucker. For found footage, but like this one's doing something weird and I like it. Nice. Nice.

The other news, do you have more new stuff? I mean, if you haven't watched Friendship, everybody should watch Friendships. I still haven't watch Friendship, and I know it's on HBO now I think. Yeah, yeah, I think it is, but that I've watched that a couple of times now too, and it is fun and silly. Nice.

So the probably my favorite new movie of the year was on Shutter. And you had said earlier about the movie that you wish you had made. This was a movie that like watching it. It was the movie I wish I had fantasized about as a child. This was The Ugly Stepsister.

I still haven't watched it because I'm scared. Oh it's good, it's it's gross. I mean it's like like there, so I mean it was actually this. I don't know if people know this, because it's not like it won't get it won't get there. But this is really impressive that it got even this far.

It is on the way the Oscars do, like all the craft categories is there's a shortlist, right, so like movies are submitted and like like the craft's guilds, the various graphics, like vote on them just for like, okay, here are the You're not voting for two hundred movies for best costume. You're voting from a batch of fifteen. It's on the shortlist for hair and makeup. Because it was like that whatever that number is, like fifteen or twenty, I don't know that's sure, but like that's really short. And this is a movie that was made for nothing by a first time Belgian director, Like this is not this is like impressive because and that's what I'll say.

It is fucking gnarly, like it's growth and it's not. It's it never feels like it's doing it just to gross you out, like there is some gross body shit in here, because this is very much like the substance for you know, in eighteen o three, Like it is women doing horrible things to their bodies in order to you know, fit society's mold and so on, but it is doing also telling a lot, talking a lot about women's relationships with each other and so on, and like the more I've thought about it, the more I'm like, it's this weird thing where I'm like, I am so excited for this filmmaker to keep making movies. I want to see what she does. The same way after you saw Revenge, you were like, hey, it was poorlyferge.

She's gonna go somewhere. I feel like that is we're gonna be talking about this, this woman's next film, like in that consideration, but this movie in particular, I was like, I was a little girl and I watched so much fucking fairy tales and little mermaids and all that, and like this is what I should have been wanting as I watched them. So okay, I I will prioritize it. You know, I'm squeamish in a weird way, but like, I don't know, I guess it's it's a if there's like a lack of consideration or a meanness to things, it makes a difference, you know. Yeah, I mean there is.

It's not pleasant because it is about you know, it is the ugly step this, Oh yeah, for sure, trying to you know, do what she's got to do. And I think the meanness is part of what the movie is about. Yeah, well I should I guess I should just trust. Women, right, Well, yes and no, because then you watch the movie you're like, oh, but I shouldn't have trusted that woman or. That Well, yeah, but it's the same thing with The Substance, a movie that I still have not seen is I'm still very afraid of it.

But I guess I speaking of Coralie as well, I guess I should just trust them. I should trust these people. And and that's not easy because I've been hurt before, not by women. So I guess I should consider that what I'm going in. Yeah, this is like it's a new movement.

I think of like female genre filmmakers who are like putting things out there in a very very particular way, where like, because I know there are people who feel like offended a bit by the way the Substance, Like the Substance obviously the idea that it has a male gaze when it is a female director. But it's like, yeah, there are a lot of shots of Margaret Quayley's but in the Substance, like the camera loves Margaret Quali's butt, And but when people talk about it, it's like, yeah, but don't you like that's part of what this movie is doing, Like it's addressing the fact that, yeah. See, because that's not that's something I take large exception to. Just because a woman films a woman's body sexually, it doesn't automatically make it the male gaze.

Right. Hello, lesbians exist, Yes, queer people exist. I've been watching a lot of softcore direct by women. My god, it's way hotter and way better than the stuff directed by men because they know how to film a woman's body to make it look beautiful. Yeah, not just sexual.

There's a difference. Oh man, that I just got hot from that. That made me mad, and I I think I need to see the substances. You need to see both. You need.

The Ugly Stepsister and the Substance are a perfect double bill. I think they are. I think they are speaking to each other. I think they are dressing the same thing two hundred years with two hundred years between them. I think they're also incredibly gnarly in how they're doing their makeup and what they're doing with it, and how especially in the Ugly Setsister are like the the under the surfaceness of it is so there and it's funny.

It's really funny in a and both are. I think both of them are absolutely comedies as much as they are everything else. But yeah, I I adored this movie and I want more eyes on it, and I would love to hear what you have to say about it. Okay, I'll be brave, I'll force you. I trust you be great.

I trust thank you, thank you. I'm very surprised you didn't mention another movie that we both saw in the. Final Destination, Bloodlines. Yeah. I didn't see it in the theater, but I just love it.

It is. It is on my list. I figured it was. I was like, wait, we did she not? No, no, no, it's on my list.

There's a couple other things, but I wanted the high highs and I know I already kind of went long on blood Guys. Yeah yeah, but like, but look, is it maybe the best Final Destination movie? Yeah? Maybe it is, but the only time will tell. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

So what other new because I mean, like, in terms of newer stuff, like that's pretty well sure, everything I got. Well, I actually I actually have on my best first time watches that weren't necessarily twenty twenty four watches. Okay, I'm so sorry twenty twenty five watches. But who knows. It doesn't matter what time.

Time is a circle with a question mark. But they are newer. So I actually only watched I saw the TV Glow this year. Oh yes, and it was January of this year, but last year. Sorry what year is?

It doesn't matter, that's true. Time is relative. So I saw the TV Glow watched it in January of twenty twenty five. That I had been nervous to watch it. Yeah, I had been, just like the substance, So we have precedence for this turning out.

Well, I was. I was nervous to watch it, and I just like that. I think you should leave skit. I can't really talk about it without crying. Yeah, it's I've watched it again since, and it hit hard and harder in different ways.

I can see that it's a perfect movie. It's the best movie. It's it is it is genre, it is it is art, it is high art, it is low art, it is TV trash, it's everything. It's like every type of media in an ugly little ball that's also beautiful and purple and smoky. I can't really explain it.

It's like the most important movie of. I feel like that was the best description of it I've ever heard, because that you are so right about that. I just love it so much. So like if it's the year that it came out, which I believe was twenty twenty four, if I had actually watched it that year, it would have, without a doubt been my favorite everything. Of the year.

Yeah, it was mine. What could I actually did get to see it when it came out in the theater, yes, and just lucky. Yeah, just like one of those. And I was glad I watched it in the theater just because it was like too Like I don't know, there's the weird thing of movies where because having been just like now that I'm going back to the theater a little more, there is that like different sense of like what do you get out of the theater experience? First home?

And that's a movie that I think could work really well at home where you are like still like alone with it. I think is something that could be really important for a lot of people. But there was something about being in this giant room watching it, like surrounded by people, so and like the reactions are so different, Like I think I found a lot of it very funny because I think so much of it is a lot of like humor. If you were a buffy the Vampires labor fan and like then there's other just gaps, like and I just like the way like you and you kind of heard like at different times gasping and like choking in things. But that, like, to me, that was a movie that was like I don't I'm like you, like, I don't feel equipped to ever talk about that movie in some ways, yeah, and in many ways, like I look at that and like this movie was not like it could you say, oh, it was made for me because of all the Twin Peaks references like sure, like but also like this isn't you know, it's not my story, it's not my truth, Like, but watching it was so important to me to like get something that I might not have have gotten before in many ways.

That that's so interesting that you say that, because I do understand that it is it is a trans story because it's made by a trans woman, but it also is quite literally a trans story. And I never felt like that was inaccessible to me because no, to me, that wasn't just a trans story. I related to it so deeply. It felt so much like my lived experiences, like being trapped in a job, not being able to tell you at the end, like I know it's a trans allegory, but like it's also my life. Yeah, you know it's so upsetting.

No, And I think that is like the beauty of great art is that in many ways, the more specific you get, the more universal universal. Yes, and I agree completely like that movie to me, it was not It wasn't like I did feel like I got a window into into a world that I am, you know, otherwise outside of, But it also was that same idea of like yeah, but also life, like it is about how you live your life and do you did you find who you should be or or you want to learn to be? And are you hiding that? And what does that mean? And what is the cost of that?

And yeah it's god ok, gorgeous. And you've seen World's Fair, right yes, yes, yeah, and just such a like I said the word progression, which I didn't mean to say, like, oh. World's Fair is is not as good because I think World Fair is spectacular. I think more a like what a fascinating journey to see how this filmmaker keeps going? Because those are movies that are both unlike anything else and feel like they come from a voice that is important and modern and new.

And now and also really really good at storytelling. Yep, boy, I loved it. So yeah, that's my favorite first time watch of the year by far. And then I saw sometimes it gets labeled as a twenty twenty five release, but I mostly see it as twenty twenty four, which would be Sodabergh's presence. Oh you mentioned this, and I still have not watched it.

It turned out to be very divisive for multiple reasons, and one of which I won't spoil. But I know it's not something you love, okay, but uh, for me, it for me, it was perfect. So I loved it quite a bit, but uh, I don't know if it's for everybody. And then I think, for like first time watches, things I really enjoyed. I did I talk about it here.

I watched The Mangler. I like you, because otherwise I would have had a bigger reaction of gas. So The Manglar is a really good movie, like in a bad way, but like in a good way. I don't think i've ever watched it beginning to end. It's weird and it's like it's so.

The Mangler, if you don't know, is about a laundry press that eats people. Obviously, but I didn't know that. I thought like The Mangler was like a guy or like a like an experience. I didn't know. So essentially, it's a haunted object movie and it's a haunted washing machine, I mean, which makes it even sillier.

I look, I've seen you mentioned maximum, haunted lamps, haunted haunted dresses. Remake The Mangler. Yes, So I also watched Night Flyer, which is on my list, which is another Stephen King thing he can he can remake that one too. Is that the Garrison one? Yeah?

You know what? I think there is if I'm not sure. I could be wrong, though, but there is a Have you watched night Flyer? No? I actually have not.

Okay, So night Flyer is about a vampire that flies a plane, just so everybody knows that, because again I didn't know that this is what these movies were. Like a sun visor. Can he only fly at night? He can? It's Emily, it's in the name the night Flyer.

Oh silly. But does he have to fly? Like? What if he's out and it's like the sun is coming up, everybody in that plane is gonna die. He's not a pipe.

No, I'm in my mind he is it. No, it's like a pilot. No, it's a little plain. It's like the. Idea that he is like a Delta pilot.

No no, no, not like he was also a vampire and we could have that movie as good Perkins for you. But there is like a scene in it like it's all weird and dreamlike that makes it totally worth watching, even if you're not just there for the silliness of the plot. It's actually cool. So I recommend everybody watched The Mangler and Night Flyer. I thought I I thought I had seen every worthwhile Stephen King adaptation, but I had missed some of the most important ones of.

Clearly so my favorite movie, and I still have a few more. But the favorite movie that I watched for the first time this year is one that we watched here for the show. Was it Straight Story? Ye oh my god. I thought you.

I thought you'd bring it up, so that's why I didn't. It's one hundred percent on my list. I still think I like, think about it all the time. Me too, me too, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, just a perfect movie. Anybody out there who still has not watched it, h It's it's so good and life affirming without being like saccharin, and it's it is not overlease sweet.

It is very human and raw and honest and yet is beautiful. And I just think about it all the time, and I just it is in my top twenty probably now. The more I just think about what an important piece of art that is. It's it's a masterpiece and it really speaks to I think it's funny to look at it and be like, this is quintessential Lynch, but also acknowledge how completely different it is from like, you know, other Lynch work, and kind of it puts it into perspective that what he does and how he does it is a choice. Because if he can do this and be so accessible and so bountiful and so beautiful and then he chooses to work with shadows so much, it's like it's a choice.

Man, He's not boxing himself and it's what he wants to do. So it's it makes it everything. I guess it's just goes to show when you look at an artist's full body of work, it can help you understand everything better. Yeah, And I think something very much about David Lynch that was always very like kind of underspoken about I guess because the whole idea of both Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet being oh, it's it's what's underneath, right, It's that Suburbia's you know, you think it's this, but really look a little closer, and there's the ear in the grass. And both of those stories were very much that, but also so much of Twin Peaks especially it was also about all of the beauty of everyday, day to day, right of a cup of coffee, of like all like the little interactions Laura had and these very human things.

And I feel like that is what I think of the straight story of It's not presenting the like everyday world as being magical. It's like complete opposite. It's like, oh no, it's it is in the human or interactions. It's in all of the normal natural things where there is this beautiful human storytelling at play and just oh god, it makes me weepy when I think about it. Yeah, so good.

So yeah, thanks for making me watch it. Yeah yeah. Oh, and thank you also for making me watch another movie that I think of constantly, because I have realized more and more how much I appreciate this movie doing what it does because it has this is the year that I like, I have fully come to terms and accepted my own intensity. Are you going to say The Novice? Of course I'm going to say The Office.

So I picked it because I relate to Isabelle Furman's character it too. Yeah, So go back and listen because that was a good episode. That's one of my favorite episodes we've done. We did The Novice and Nayad together and those are Yeah, it was a I think it was a wonderful discussion. Yeah, and I'm really glad you liked The Novice because I'm sure I already said it.

When I first watched it, I thought of you. You were who I thought of, but not not because of the appreciating that, yeah, but so much as like the the who it is. Obviously we both really. Were were big orphan stands. And yeah, also how it presents it.

There's almost like a lack of judgment in that movie. It is judgy, for sure, because we're watching what happens, but like, I don't know, and I kind of liked how she was just allowed to kind of suck yeah, yeah, and just exist in that state and stuff. I do think about it a lot too. I think we talked about it when we when we watched it. But there's that scene in the bar where they're playing pool and there's just so much dialogue and it's like, boy, we don't let people talk in movies anymore hot.

And they should when there Isabelle Furman and can talk about something really interesting, yeah, really good stuff. Yeah, And I mean Naiad also is one that I revisit obviously for the show. And I don't think it is you know, it's a very good movie. I don't think it's a great movie, but it's another one that I just appreciate so much for like what it is, the story it is telling about, like like intense, complicated, not always fun women and just letting them tell their stories and ways that make you like root for them but also understand them. And I think at Benning and Jodie Foster in that movie are two of my favorite performances of that year.

The fact, yeah, yeah, yeah, what else you got for Okay for movies? All right, I look, I'm gonna say it. I part of it was me sitting up a delightful evening where it was like, oh, i'm home alone, let me watch a movie like something that like a new movie that I've wanted to watch, but I'm just gonna pay for it. Let me watch it and rent it. And it kind of made me like love the whole series again.

And that was Saw X. Oh really have you seen Saw X? I've seen all the Saws I saw? Yeah, I seen all the Saws. I actually rewatched Book of Saw this year.

Oh, and that's the one that was like my bottom. Well, I gotta tell you. When we first watched Book of Saw, I proclaimed that it was the best Saw movie, like I loved it upon rewatch. Look, I don't like it as much. It's one of those movies I should have just let stay in my memory.

But I still enjoyed it. But I don't. So Saw X is on the cover there's like tubes going into eyes and it makes an X right, yes, okay, did they put tubes on people's eyes in it? I don't remember. I think that is the opening.

But Saw X is the one where, like, aside from the initial like opening, but heading, it's like forty minutes of just like Jigsaw going and getting cured in Mexico and like enjoying life. It's I love it. It's beautiful. It's like you're watching this movie and realizing, like, wait, I'm watching a Saw movie and there have been forty minutes with no murder because it's just Jigsaw's story and it's the prequel. I mean, everything all the time jumps obviously or a wild but it's it is the like official prequel to the first Saw.

I think any timeline wise, that's when it starts, and it's just lovely and like, essentially this isn't really spoiling anything, but like Jigsaw is very much what I think is so smart about it is it understands at this point that and this is true of a lot of other Slashers. Not to say we're on Jigsaw's side, but like we're kind of It's gonna be hard not to root for Jigsaw because we like this guy. We watched ten movies with him. We know that he generally is targeting people that, in some way or another deserve some kind of education, maybe not like you know, tubes in their eyes. And so it does I think a really smart thing in how it's able to uh, because this is always a challenge.

I think a lot of movies struggle with this when you know, and I mean I gave up when Walking Dead long ago. But like the Vegan thing, right, you have the most reprehensible, disgusting character who brutally murders the best character on the show. Oh, but we know people love watching this guy and we love the actor, so we have to somehow make him good. And it just like it's it's a messy journey. And with Jigson, I feel like they got to the point where they wanted to make another Saw movie.

They wanted to use Tobin Bell because you know, you can't always use Tobin Bell because of the nature of what has happened in the Saw movies, and so it was it feels like they said, like, Okay, what can we do with Tobin Bell? And this makes sense in terms of a time you can have with him, right, because you can't go too far back in time because he's getting older. You can't go in the future because you know he it's not really spoiler alert, he dies and like Saw three, so they find a way to use this actor and this character and explore something we haven't seen in him. And it also makes sense to kind of justify, like it helps explain a lot of what he does in future installments. And I think it's really smart I really know.

Let me clarify something real quick because I'm currently looking at my review and letterbox. This was the first time you saw it? This is the movie only came out like two years ago, right, came out twenty twenty three. Yeah, I logged it the day after Christmas twenty twenty three. I did not see it when it came I never made it to a theater.

Wow, it was never streaming anywhere. I judging you for it. I'm not judging you. It's just as the number one saw super Fan in the world. It's just so wild that this is the first time you're seeing it.

I also feel like I paid you for too many streaming sites to ever get to rent a movie. No, I get it. We really pulled, you know, because of our current financial situation. Also, we've really pulled back, and it's actually worked out financially better to like just rent what yeah, other than shutter or I'll occasionally nab some password for something specific, but like, yeah, targeting it is that they reinvented cable and then cable became too expensive again is what happened. So yeah, I get it, But I would like a little clarity on my review.

So my review is five stars for that gorgeous woman who is being mean to John Kramer. Is that a plot point? I don't know. Well, I don't want to spoil it because I feel like this movie has a really like good twist. But the villain of this movie is a gorgeous blonde woman and she's very mean to John Kramer.

Awesome watch, and I. Don't want to say anything to spoil it because again I knew nothing going in. I just knew Saw Chen, so I really was like genuinely surprised at how things moved it. Also, you watch it, You're like, we could see her again, so oh fun. I feel like they announced another Saw but I don't know if that was like I had a dream that's happened to me more than once where I have had a dream and then thought it was like woke up like all right, they're finally doing it, and then oh it's not.

No, I don't know if it's happening or not. Well, I mean, everybody, I guess, go revisit Saw ten. Yeah, I get I gave it three stars too, which again I have no memory of it, but I get I didn't give it no stars. So that's something. It probably would be like for me, if I'm ranking Saws, it's probably gonna be in the top three.

It might be. What, yeah, what what are your top two? Then I think my top two are probably SAW six. Is that the insurance one. That's the insurance one, the easiest way to do it, the insurance one.

To me, this is like not the exciting part about it, but the needle pit one. I really like Saw too. I think I think SAW two is really like where you established this is Saw? This is what? Yeah?

I like those two are my favorites. And then then it would probably be ten, then probably one. Then maybe I liked the weird the like twenty ten one what was that or the twenty the one I think it was just called Jigsaw, right it would have been or nine yea, yeah, the one with I don't remember anybody who was in it was very Canadian. I like that. Yeah, I think I remember that one too.

The thing is I've watched we know, we know this. I've watched all of them, Yeah, most of them more than one. Yeah, some of them four or five times. Can't remember them. I just can't, I see.

I think if it is too. I was thinking about this with how we you know obviously, how we as horror fans in general often like think about and talk about Slashers and the affection we have for them, and how like Friday the Thirteenth, I think of as like the series where there's no great movie in that entire franchise. There's one, there's a good there. I didn't say there, I'd say okay, no, I'd still say great, there's no great movie, like all that means a great movie. I don't think Right of thirteenth is a great movie, but we can we can agree to disagree.

But the sheer number of them, and the sheer amount of time you have with this world and this mythos and this character just like you, it's created this community in your head of this world. And I realized that with Saw X of like, oh yeah, we reached that point. We saw there are ten of these movies, and I think, especially living in it when we did, because I liked these movies when they were coming out, even though like they even then they weren't my favorite by any means, but to me it was exciting of like, look, we get to look forward to a new horror sequel every year until this well runs dry. That he's doing something different, but he's very much engaging in and aiming towards people like us who are horror fans.

And there were such a weird backlash to like a lot of like old school horror fans with Saw, because I think they, like, I don't know, there was a snobbery back then that is always true in horror. But at this point, like realizing like, no, we've had twenty years of Saw and there's so much of it that just you get affectionate towards these this really ridiculously gory, uh mean franchise, but this installment being able to take the time to tell a story in a way that you would never have and Saw three that it has earned that, And I think fans liked it because the way fans have come to love Tobin Bell, like it's just a strange thing that kind of happens in this tiny world of micro budget movies. Right, Saw was made for a million dollars.

All the sequels were still fairly cheap by their standards. All of them made so much money and started by engaging these like again, like the early Saw movies are mean and gross and all of this, but people grew up with them so they reach a point where they can watch it John Kramer getting cancer treatment and like just lean in and be like, yeah, Tobin Bell, you take your time with this scene. I know there's something really beautiful about that. Well, No, I love I love that that look at it. And I can honestly say that your genuine affection for the franchise has colored the way I've view and approached it for quite a while now.

So I do. I do appreciate that somebody out there needs to give it the love it deserves. Yeah, that somebody is you, It would seem, it would seem there's others. I know you're not the only person that likes these movies, but you're one of the only people I've ever heard talk about them with any kind of reverence. Well, you know, I I hold the Book of Saw to a very high standard, and I appreciate it.

I didn't. Look. I can't justify why I believe it came out deep. Covid such deep covid. Yeah, I was a.

Lot of things that I loved was questionable. Do you have anything else for that? Because I have one I definitely don't want to forget. And then that's probably like the well see other Okay, I have like other some older stuff. I finally watched Secrets and Lives by Mike Lee because I was watched Hard Truths on a plane, so I so those two together kind of are an interesting pairing because it's Mary and John Baptiste in both of them in a very different role.

These are beautiful. Secrets and Lives is a delight, and I thought it was a very like dark movie. It's not. It's very light. It's not light, but it's very I mean it's not light like.

It's actually kind of about you know, sad people kind of trying to find family together and such. But it's beautiful and it's really funny. Hard Truths is a very hard watch because it's about a woman who is clearly suffering from stuff and is miserable and makes some people miserable, but the people around her are not always miserable because they understand her. And it's beautiful. And these are beautiful movies that I don't think I ever want to watch again.

Actually, no Secrets and Lines I watch again. Hart Set have a hard time with. Yeah. I get that sometimes something can be effective and wonderful and you just don't really need to revisit it after that. I have books and TV.

So oh, okay, well i'll I guess I'll just do a quick little uh uh, you know, wrap up of Found Footage. I talked about it already, but Chad gets the acts. I thought was fantastic and amazing. And I know there's been like more streamer horror, influencer horror since that's come out. Speaking, did you see did you see influencers?

Not yet? No? Okay, okay, I've been on a trying to catch up on all the twenty twenty five found footage, so I've been on a bit of a found footage kick. So I've placed it aside. I have heard wonderful things though.

I loved it, Okay, cool, I'm excited. I recently rewatched the first one before I knew they were doing a sequel. I was late to the party on that. And then I rewatched the first one and I was like, boy, I wish there was some way they could get her back. And then I literally clicked into dudes IMDb and he had a second one listed, and I was like, oh, well, good for me.

I guess the only thing I didn't like about this movie was It made me so angry when it ended, because I'm like, wait, I want more, I want more. I can't wait. And it really like it it is, they could keep going. It's the rare case where I'm like, I wish this was a ten hour mini series because then I have more of it. That's interesting.

Yeah, there was like such good like in the first one, like good mystery story. I don't know if I'm describing that right, but like is it like that again? Mm hmm oh, I can't fucking word. Yeah. And I had actually forgotten some of the beats of the of the first one when I rewatched it and got like re excited for it when it happened.

So it's like satisfying. Watch I can't wait for you to watch it one. Okay, cool, I'm excited about it. Yeah. And so another thing, and this was on two B and I think it was from like twenty twenty three.

There's a movie called Live Scream, Live Scream, and then a sequel called Live Screamers. And if you like video games or screen life horror, uh, Live Screamers the sequel is probably one of the best examples of screen life horror I've ever seen, and They're both directed by a woman, which is extremely rare in the subgenre. So gotta wrap it, gotta push it where I can, because I I watched this never happens. I watch Live Screamers on a whim the second one first on a whim and loved it so much I immediately had to write about it. And that does not that doesn't happen to me anymore.

I don't get those weird bouts. But it was just such a like a feat of strength, and I'm so passionate about that silly genre that it was like, everyone needs to see this. Please tell me I'm right, it's good. Wait is this? I wonder if I'm looking at the right one.

A prankster finds themselves trapped in a dark room. No, okay, then people will be careful when you look for it, because I know it is not that movie. Okay, Live screw is two words. Oh screamer. There's so the first one is live scream and the second one is live Screamers all one word.

And about twenty eight well hold on, yes, okay, the first one was twenty eighteen. That one is is around like hoopla and places. Yeah, yep, cool, Okay. And then the second one is should still be on to be I think, and uh, I will say the second one maybe is the first one's super low fi. So if you're into that, like, go for it.

I think it's great. But the second one is much more refined and there's a larger cast, and you're they're clearly it's the next step in the first one. Nice. Nice, Okay, Yeah, I think if you're a fan of the genre, go for it. I know some people maybe I've been watching a lot of found footage and I look at people's reviews and they just don't like it.

There's just the genre as a whole, and it's like, I guess if you just don't like the genre, I can't tell you anything. I feel it. For some types of movies, there should be the way, like Rotten Tomatoes has audience and critics, there should be a division between I am a found footage fan or I'm a general movie fan, because there is I agree with you, like, there are certain genres where there is a difference when you approach it between this is like and for me, like I would probably be in the other bucket. I like good found footage, but bad found footage to me is painful to watch, and so therefore you shouldn't take my review of a found footage movie the same way to take your review if you're somebody that airs more on your side than you do on my side.

Like there it is a holarizing type of story. Really is it really is? And I still, I mean to me, I still think like a bad found footage movie is can be unwatchable because you feel like, why am I even watching a movie if you didn't work and there wasn't a thing, but you have a different tolerance for it. The way again, the way I can talk, I can, you know, glean beautiful things and saw X and so I think that is an important distinction. I guess yeah, I think a lot of it.

I'm not like a TikTok person or like a like a scroller. I don't watch videos like that, but I do watch some YouTube videos that are like personality driven video essay styles, and I do think at this point that taking that type of media in has definitely endeared me even more so like the because like I watched It's not on my list because I just watched it this year, But I watched a movie called Chateau that's a found footage movie from last year, and it's about an influencer who goes to a haunted house. And I have literally just watched a literal influencer that I'll watch sometimes go to go play with haunted dolls in a haunted house. And the way that it mirrored that real thing that I watched is part of the excitement for me, like like, oh my god, they're doing it so good.

They're doing this so good, and it's really exciting because you know, when the woman goes to the to the haunted house and the influencer video, it's not haunted and nothing happens. But because I'm watching a movie, something's going to happen. So I get like this jump out of reality that I want. I get it. I get it, like it's funny.

I was talking to somebody like at the gym about this somehow, how I don't I am not somebody that want not to say I don't watch influencers because I watch a lot of dog videos. I know those are influencer dogs, but the like the sit down and watch like a ten minute video about like a woman like you know, oh, like this like young person talking to the camera who goes and tries out all the slurpies at seven eleven's like that kind of thing, Like I just I don't get watching that, Like I don't understand the not that I don't understand the appeal because I understand it for other people, but for me, that is, there's nothing appealing about that. But then because I know it enough, I know when I watch a movie like dead Stream where it's being done that way, it's like, oh, okay, I get what you're doing, and this is entertaining and funny to me, but yeah, the it, but it also like I also fully understand and respect that it is content, that it is a like yeah, absolutely a legitimate form of storytelling that people respond to.

I might not respond to it, but you know what, I also don't respond to like the West Wing. So what what does that mean? You know? Yeah, no, it's I guess it clicks something in my brain, just like saw click something in your brain. And you're right, though it's tough to parse through, like do you do you not like this because you don't like these?

Or do you not like this because it's not good? Yeah? And and and everybody version of good is different, but like, yeah, I look, I know some of them aren't good, that is true. But it's it's a niche little area that you enjoy the same way I will watch anything with a killer doll. Yeah about you.

Yeah No. I watched one that I thought would be worse, and I was disappointed that it wasn't, because I'm like, it's okay, and somehow that makes me angry. There's a whole bunch of like Mithreegan Moo like movies that look like they were made really cheaply, and I watched one called rob one. In that was oh, oh yeah, I want to see it so bad? Was it good?

Go ahead and watch it. It's it's okay, it's it's it's clearly not expensive. All of the murderers take place in one place, and you don't understand why because they have this beautiful mansion, but the everybody dies in a barn. But it's like, yeah, I guess it right, Yeah, no, no, no, they weren't hiring the cleaners. It's I thought it was gonna be so much worse, and I was like, oh, this is this is an okay, little low budget horror film that's made pretty well and has a good twist and Okay, I thought I was gonna be campier and it wasn't, and so that I was so again like, don't take my opinion on that, because I walked in expecting something bad.

Well that's funny. Have you seen Tim? No? Okay, So Tim is a movie like dot I dot M stands for something. I see it.

I see it. Yeah, I watched that this year and I enjoyed it. But similarly, I I didn't think it was gonna be like something I thought was good. I thought it was gonna be silly, and then I was like, wait a second, I like this. Yeah, I went into this in a different frame and now I have to adjust okay, canopy, so I'll find it there.

So Tim just suggests a double feature for everyone. Yeah, Tim, Tim is about like a male like household assistant robot, and then Subservience is a about a female one with similar result. So good double feature and subservience is Megan Fox in case you forgot me talking about that first. Oh yes, now I remember. Okay, nice, all right, added t one m.

That's actually one, is it? Okay? No, they're doing it both ways in the poster art it but in the name like the title it's an I. So that's just bad, bad marketing, right. There, Guys, that's gonna be confusing, just.

And like a chip. Yeah, like be careful about eyes and o's because they look like ones or zeros and it can be very confusing for searches. So just you heard that from me. Yeah, it's true. Uh do you have any TV.

I didn't really watch much TV. I rewatch everything. I don't watch new stuff. But I watched The Chair Company, uh more, Tim Robinson. I have a problem, and its name is Tim Robinson.

I loved it. It was great, nice. Nice. I keep I just keep forgetting about HBO. Anything on HBO.

It's one of the few that we still have like occasional access to one of our one of our friends still has an active account when when we have the password, we can watch stuff. Yep, I detely. The reason I haven't turned down because it's my friend's account, and I keep like whenever I see I'm like, I'm gonna go, oh wait, I need to text her. Oh I think she's busy. So that's why I keep forgetting.

And like if there's a time difference, so for us, there's like a two hours Yeah, so we'll we'll like get HBO open at like nine to thirty at night. It's eleven thirty. Right right? Has the password? Yep?

Yeah, I am going to ask them at eleven thirty at night. No, I get that. I get that. Yeah. The only new TV and I'm saying new, but it actually technically was twenty twenty four because I think it aired in December of twenty twenty four on Netflix.

I loved and I think it's coming back for a season. Two. Blacked Ups Kira, Knightley and Ben with Shaw our spies an England, and the series is set during Christmas, so it's really like pretty and there's Christmas lights everywhere and they are shooting and fighting and they're both delightful. It's sexy. It's just a good time.

So I if people like that kind of like to me, like, that's the kind of show I want to kind of have in my pocket of Oh, I can turn this on when I'm making dinner. I want a sexy spy pot people having it doing well, choreographed shooting and stuff and this this scratch that itch. I have never heard of that, and so I went and looked it up. When you're not in the Netflix ecosystem, it's very easy to know that they're to not know anything yet on Netflix. Yeah, it's similar the way I am with Apple TV, right, I don't like I had Apple TV for about three months.

I did a trial of it so I could watch There's well some some I think may be Killers of the Flower Moon. And then I'm like, oh, watch Severance while I'm here, and then I Am not going to keep paying for it. It goes away, and then people keep talking about these series. I'm like, yeah, that's great. Nope, not watching it, Nope, not going to Nope, Nope, keep your plural blisses or plural by and I will, you know, instead go on you know to b and all the other places and Canopy where there's so much uh and I am not paying a whole lot of money for that stuff.

So yeah, I'm kind of yeah, I'm in that same boat with that side of the streaming. Yeah, I still want to pay for I pay for Shutter, and I like feel like I eat my duty as a horror fan to do so. And then there's a lot of sharing going around on Amazon, Netflix, HBO, Peacock. I pay for because mostly because of figure skaming, which does bring me to the other things. I was going to mention with a couple of books and a couple of things like that.

All right, so other media, if you will, other content. This is uh now, I don't know if you people all know this, but I like figure skating. But yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it's It's taken me forty three years to admit this on air and out loud, but yeah, like I really like figure skating. Wow, oh, I'm good. On you right.

Indeed, figure skating is the greatest sport ever. It is the only sport that truly combines athleticism with artistry and storytelling and sequence and many other things. It also has ridiculous drama associated with it for so many reasons. It is an Olympic year, which is exciting because it means like everybody starts watching figure skating and then they forget about it, but those diehards like us don't. So if you are looking to get into Olympic stuff and figure skating and so on for this Olympic year, and if you need to know, the Olympics come start February sixth as opening ceremonies.

You have for figure skating, you have a team event that happens at the beginning, and then you have individuals men, women, ice dance, and pairs, and we're actually in the order, if you want to know, the order is going to be ice dance, men, pairs, and women. To just get that out of the way, this is a very exciting year for figure skating. But if you so, if you're like trying to find ways to get into bigger skating, first of all, it's on Peacock. You can go to Peacock and try to find where they might air some I have other recommendations for how to like get into the mood. There was a novel that came out last year, I think by Lane Fargo called The Favorites, and it is pure fiction, but it is clearly very like, oh this is so Johnny Weir, Oh this is so medicine hubble, Like there's a lot in there that's very much like clear of who they're writing about, but it's just like good.

It's also apparently based on weathering heights, which I didn't realize until the end when I put two and two together on character teams. But it's just a good read that is feels like this woman did a lot of research about what figure skaters go through and are it is, it's sexy, it's fun. It's just like everybody I know who's read it, who are people who are not figure skating fans. I really enjoyed it. And then as a accompaniment to that, if you're like I don't want to read, I want to listen to stuff, then I have a podcast recommendation for you.

Oo okay, And this is the podcast is called The run Through. It is hosted by Olympians former figure skaters Ashley Wagner, Adam Rapond and not Olympic figure skater Sarah Hughes. There is an Olympic champion named Sarah Hughes. This is not her, This is a producer and it's just the three of them. They talk about figure skating.

They talk about, you know, the each event. But something they did over the summer that was a really great way to like, if you want to try to learn and like what's who's who and what the drama is a figure skating and the history of it. They did a series they called the Loure Series where they took each discipline men's, women's ice dance and pairs and they did like four three or four episodes, and each episode was like two hours long where they kind of went through the history of like, Okay, here's what you need to know in nineteen eighty eight this, but it's not like that. It is the gossip. It is all of the wacky facts and things like how Yugenny Plushenko, who was the gold medalist in two thousand and two, I think, was convinced that he had been cursed by a Russian wizard and that's why he fell during his free skate, Like it's all that shit you have so especially an ice dance you have so many affairs and marriages and divorces.

And there's a moment where one ice dance woman where her partner had left her but they were still partners, but he was he was sleeping with another ice dancer, and he gave the other ice dancer his wedding ring that she would wear when she skated. And this all culminates in the ice one of the ice dancers walking into a restaurant and slamming the woman's face on the counter, Like reason is what happens in figure skating. It doesn't happen it, ma, folks, And I'm a baseball fan Okay, So if you wanted like, oh, what's like a cool way to kind of where do I start? Then the run Through podcast and then look up in the summer series there was like it started, I think like in June July, start with the Ice Dance Lore and just like if you're not sold by the first episode, then move on.

But I think the first episode of Ice Dance Lore is a really fun way to get into like this weird world that he is very appealing and cool to watch. And yes, the Olympics happened every four years, but figure sating is constantly happening. It happens every year, and it's just a fun way where you might find yourself like thinking, oh, maybe I want to pay more attention to this. So I used to be really into figure skating when I was a youth. It was so much bigger in the nineties.

Yeah, and it still is, without a doubt, the maybe the only thing that'll keep my interest in the Olympics. Yep, I mean that's not true, because I can watch anything for a minute, but like actually care about like. Yeah, I mean, it's storytelling on ice, so it's hard not to if it's on in front of you. Like, if you're watching skiing, Okay, I don't know who these people. I can't see their faces.

I don't really know what they're doing. You're watching figure skating, You're watching somebody in a sparkly outfit tell a story. Yeah, and do it while doing incredible feats of physicality that are so much harder than they look. So yeah, I look, I get it. I understand you're so passionate about.

I just you know, if there's anybody out there who's thinking like, oh no, maybe, like, how would I where would I start? Like? I think this is a good I think it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's great. Are you so you'll be busy for a while?

I guess, well, I'm all encompassing thing. No, I'm just I didn't you're telling me the Olympics is coming up. I had no idea the Olympics. Oh my god, it's an Olympic your Christine wo Yeah they start February sixth. Yeah, so I've heard from your friend to family.

I've already planned the dish I'm making for an Olympic party. I love that because my friend has an Olympic party and everybody has to pick a country and make a dish for it. Uh. Yeah, I was really mad because at work the I always have to travel. In February, there's a trade show I go to, which means like for a week, I'm very busy, and that week falls during the Olympics, and I am serious.

The only good thing is that because of the time, because the Olympics are in Milan, so the timing isn't that bad. It's like only a five hour different. So I think, like, I'm busy during the day and at night i can go back to my hotel and watch the Olympics without too much spoiling as long as I avoid talking to anybody. You're looking at anything on a screen. Oh I hope you're able to Yeah me too.

Yeah, that's that's a bummer. That timing now, and it's like every four years, come on to schedule around this. Come on, I get it. Yeah uncool, uncool? Yeah, seriously, Okay, anything else in the year that you experienced or wanted to shout out?

No, if you're listening, thank you. I Sometimes people will tell me I was listening and I'll be like, really to. This point, yeah, this actually goes out somewhere. People hear this, and I do appreciate that, so thank you. It is very nice to be listened to, especially as I think we can all relate our voices feel increasingly small and unimportant.

I promise you they're not, and I thank you for listening to us. It means a lot. And I'm sure if we were the roles were reversed, I would be listening to you, because you're clearly a rad person. Listener. Yeah, I just love you, guys, And things are really sad and scary, but like, I just love you guys.

Thanks. Yep. It is a really scary, awful time, and it can be very difficult to figure out what to do, and there are obviously small things one can do, can participate in things, and can donate where they can. And I think another important thing is like to also not lose yourself in all of this, and sometimes that means like enjoying the things you enjoy, and that's important. And I love Christine, and Christine lives many hundreds or thousands of miles away from me, and we long ago connected over our love of movies and talking about movies and writing about this and all that comes with that, and I am just so thankful that I still get to do this with you and just get to talk to you about things I love and hear what you love and have these exciting conversations and know that they mean a lot more.

And for anybody out there that listens to this and enjoys it and gets, you know, anything from it, we love you and we love that you do that. And yeah, and you know, weirdos like us are out here. I'm sure you're a weirdo too, and that's wonderful. Ye, thank you. Yeah, and same Emily.

I'm I'm truly grateful no matter what happens in my life. Just so everybody knows, Emily and I don't don't keep that close of daily contact or anything, but anytime anything happens in my life, one of my first thoughts is, well I can always talk. Emily will be there. Just know that. That's how I feel about Ye.

I love you too, Okay, all right, folks, We'll talk to you all later. Yeah, goodbye, yeah, yeah, yeah, blah blah bye. Bye bye. King mon King. That's all right, Dude, the elephant, the dudey ether a fan, Dude.

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