Season 11 · Episode 2

Stocking Stuffers 11.2 Jingle Bell Heist with Elizabeth Katheryn Gray

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Stocking Stuffers 11.2 Jingle Bell Heist with Elizabeth Katheryn Gray
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Isn't it weird to see Cozy Cardigan Christmas movies made with budgets? Long-time beloved Special Guest Star Elizabeth Katheryn Gray joins Emily to shop around Sterling's Department Store in Netflix's Jingle Bell Heist. There are twists, turns, and actual songs that cost money!

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We are you we media. Okay, so we're doing this. It will be off to better lives. So how's your day been so far? Or two chefs and king vomit out of sand's working off?

Get this cleaned up. Twice Sterling hired me to upgrade the security system and he didn't pay me. Put on a nice face for the public. But the man's. Next week for you.

I'm good to stick it to him. Have no idea. Sterling has about five hundred thousand pounds in his office. I can get us under the store and avoid the security vice. How are we going to break into Sterling's penthouse?

His wife Lisben known to bring home a young man out of Gayhew. You just got to get an invite up to the penthouse, get the bob, and then leave. I'm going to need a Tony. There showtime. Ask her something be charming?

A big fan of these policies. Oh yes, teeny, that's your best game. You were ridiculous. Hi e Seras, Hello and welcome to the Feminine Critique. I'm Emily.

It is our next stocking stuffer, and as promised, I am no longer alone. It's the holidays. I open my doors, I let friends in and on today's episode, I have one of our classic traditions. I have the wonderful Elizabeth Catherine Gray here to talk movies. Elizabeth, welcome, Hello Lily.

I would not be Christmas without doing this. They be honest always, Oh my God, and thank you for I'm gonna say this ahead of time now, thank you for letting me off a little easy this year with this choice. Well, I I mean late what I've done the last couple of years. The way I've done it is instead of being like, you're gonna do this movie with me, I always I do that thing that I'm not a parent, but I feel like this is a good parent thing to do where you always make your child think that they get the choice in the matter. Okay, here are three different options, which one would you like?

And of course by now I've already down to three that I actually want to do. But there's an art to doing it to where like you're gonna get the right answer. But yeah, so but. We started with our Netflix, a Netflix movie. Like That's actually how I got into this was do it was reviewing the three Christmas Pristmas right, those are all Netflix.

And this was my first Netflix since then, so it felt like coming home now. Well, and it's interesting because I think Netflix, you know, you have obviously identities to different networks, and Hallmark has a very clear identity. I think Lifetimes is sort of often feels. Like a slightly grungier Hallmark where they can be able to push a little harder, be a little more adult, but also seems like less pretty and a little bit less budget. Uh.

And then you have, you know, the ones that kind of get made for Amazon or get made and acquired. But Netflix has a particular aesthetic, i'd say, And what are your thoughts on it? Having seen a few of the Netflix. Ones, they first of all, and they've even hinted at this, so I'm confirmed by the powers of Netflix beyond that they actually have a continuity to them, like they're all relatively the same universe. And if you think about it, it kind of is, if you think, you know, it's one of the reasons why the look is so similar across even you know, so I see I see it as like a world building in a really weird, backwards quiet kind of way.

So they've they tended. It to be that way, I think when they started that initially, Yeah, I think it really was so. And I thought it was like an offhand joke that an intern made about like all these fake European countries. I wonder if it's any of them, you know, were interconnected, and somebody there was like, well, I guess we could just make it that way, because then you had the Vanessa Hudgens ones that even then did a wormhole with other Vanessa Hudgens ones and it somehow all worked. Well.

Here we are, yeah, another one, and uh so, welcome to Christmas twenty twenty five. Here we are with jingle Christ you. Know, and a Thieving from the rich seems like a very timely uh subject matter for this year. There are some politics in this one, I agree. There are some like aes socio economical statements to be made with this movie, which again is not generally something you're going to find in Hallmark.

So it's kind of refreshing when you have that push a little harder, you know, ask questions. Yeah, but it's it's no worse than the muppets fighting a corporate greed, you know, it's not really that peep. Yeah, I mean there's less, I guess there's more healthcare concerns with human beings and muppets assuming Oh god, now now I want that movie. Now, I want this movie done with muppets. So that not just because like, oh it's always cute if you know, if everybody has played by Miss Piggy.

But what is muppet healthcare? Like? Surely there are doctors, obviously you have you have doctor. You know, you have Beaker and doctor Honeydew. It's like you have scientists, but like muppet medicine.

Do you think it is. A doctor that works on all muppets or is it like a a muppet human doctor who is gonna work on like Beaker and Doctor Honeydew for example, and a Muppet veterinarian who works on Camilla and Miss Piggy and Kermit. Have you ever thought about this? I never have it. Now I can't stop.

Oh my god, now I yes, I actually because I grew up with The Muppet Show Season one. There's this machine and when the Muppets need help, they go and they put themselves in the machine and it takes their parts off and rearranges them. Wow. Okay, so it's a machine. Okay, all right, good.

I'm glad we established that because I know we talk about with the movie, but I would have been stuck just coming back to this point throughout. So no Muppets in Jingle ba Heist. Although no, no, it would have benefited. But then again, everything benefits from muppet It's especially London. Great Muppet Caper is still my favorite.

Yeah, I get it, and it does. It feels like London feels like a very Muppet place, like it's kind to them and it works. It's also a very Christmas place. I think has a very like easy. To do a Christmas movie in London because it automatically feels like Christmas.

I've never been to London during Christmas time, but I have been there during Easter and they throw it down. So I would assume that Christmas in London is a party in its own right. I mean, come out, it's Chris brigging dickens Man. I mean that of much of Christmas lore that we know today. So this one is directed by Michael Phil mcgnauri, who.

Has not directed these kinds of movies before. The thing that struck me about him was that he did four episodes of The Mike Flanagan House of Usher. Who I you know, I still need to see that I haven't read that one yet. It's fund I really loved it, yeah, because I hadn't been that. I hadn't loved the last few he did.

I loved the First Hill House, I liked Midnight Mass. I did not like the Second hill House, although that wasn't really him. But Usher for me was really fun. So it grew on me with each episode and I was like excited each time to sit down and watch it. So I recommend cool.

I recently rewatched the Vision Price one, so maybe nic It's a. Nice good time though. And the thing that I think struck me about this when you had named a couple of options was that this was its big like trivia bit was that it was on the Blacklist for Best screen Best Unproduced Screenplay. It's written by Abby McDonald, who. I think this is her first film, and then I think the actual film has a co writer to it, so it was probably her script that then somebody else came in as well.

On Amy Reid is the other credited screenwriter on. Amy Reid also has other yeah, not really Christmas stuff, So right away it's kind of different from like the typical Hallmark where everybody is just in. This camp and constantly doing Christmas movies. This feels like these people have not made necessarily a Christmas movie before. No, they're being hired for their actual talent in filmmaking and crazy yeah, and being able to come in under budget.

Yes. Yes, So obviously we're gonna go into the tropes. We're gonna go into all the bonuses. But why do we start with walking through the movie? Kim give us a summary?

All right? First of all, I'm gonna give a huge spoiler alert for this particular movie because there's a couple of big twists this film. So anybody like there, we are going to spoil this because you you have to in order to talk about. It, to talk about this, especially when we get to the tropes, because when it comes to the evil villain, there is an evil villain in this movie. Yeah, like like even even for one of these films, he's like, oh God, for.

A lot of that I'm excited to talk about. Okay, So we do establishing shots of London and wonderful public domain parlassical music brings us to these two cute people playing in the street and they get kicked off by some evil like you know, shop worker, and he like you know, go away, go away, I don't care if it's Christmas, go play somewhere else. This young lady walks up to the little kid and steals the shop owner's wallet and gives it to her. And that's where we get started. And that's our lead, our lead.

Her name is Sophia, which, by the way, is a low Creek Christmas. We'll talk about that during the during the tropes. Who is a heaty thief but with a heart of gold. These were yeah, very good pickpocket. And she also establishes she can do locks and safes and things like that that's gonna be and has.

The blood of a magician running through her veins. Yeah, apparently her maradician grandfather in Philadelphia tolerant. There's things. Now, I will say there is some truth to that in the sense that when I first started learning magicians work, the first thing you do learn is how to pickpockets and sleight of hand because that actually helps with doing your own shirts and stuff like that. So so so, yeah, it's plausible, even though she's much more than that, Like she's a petty thief, And it's okay because she's working at Sterling's, which is basically Harod's in London.

It even kind of looks like Harod's, like the establishing shot with the lights and everything. I've actually been to Herod's, so it looks a lot like Harod's. It's clearly what it's supposed to be. So Sterlings and she works on the floor in the jewelry department and she steals she steals some rich chicks dog's collar and goes into into the storage hold. And like all cycle paths, she has a good like dextra relationship with her coworkers where she bribes them with coffee and and donuts.

I do think that she is a bit of a psychopath. Okay, we can talk about that, you know. So she walks to the back she likes, steals a bunch of money from the locker. But there's some blot twist. There's some guy that's tapped into the security cameras and has seeing her stealing the money and calls her out on it.

And as this young very British guy you know, and uh you know, and he supposedly he actually was fired and sent some jail time for stealing from Stirlings before he set up their security system, and he was strown in jail for some robbery. Uh she was, She thinks about she's never done anything big, she's always been petty, and so he propositions, hey, let's go ahead and steal from the locker. There's a bunch of jewelry down there, and she was looking at it. There is a bunch jewelry down there. She reluctantly agrees to it, because not twist.

She's not a bad person after all. She her mom is cancer mom. He has the cancer mom. Yeah, so he has cancer mom. And she's just been told that cancer mom is so bad that they have to actually go private, that the public health service can't take care of her if she needs this experimental treatment.

But she even though she's moved to London because of the healthcare situation, which worth they didn't have the United States because again, if we have international listeners, yeah, we don't really have health care in the United States. It's all at all. It's a whole thing. And her mom is duels super American and British, which is actually an important point point of this story too. Yeah.

So so she's there with the public health service. Public health Soler said, hey, she's a good candidate for this treatment. But she's gonna have to pay out the money for it, because you don't have time to wait. So she agrees reluctantly to do to bank heist this guy, and of course it goes hair probably wrong, and you know, they nothing's there, somebody robbed it, a good friend got got fired, and she's really upset about that nothing went the right way, and she goes and accuses him straight up and finds out Pop number two he has a family, you know, and a sassy sidekick, and so she suddenly feels bad and realizes, well, maybe they can help each other out. So they're gonna go and steal all the money from his personal vault in his office.

Mister Sterling, the guy owns this thing who has a bitchy wife who wants revenge, and it turns out that everybody wants revenge. Everybody hates everyone. Hates Sterling, and because of that, eventually, I'm not gonna get into the details because it's a long Commo limit. It's like one of those twisty reveals where it's like you get two twists in the final like eight minutes of not just like the details of what the heist is actually doing. But then in further detail about like motivation and the heightst So there's so much going on.

Yeah, there's so much going on. But eventually her and the strange wife and the vank heist guy, who, by the way, they find out was framed. He actually never did it and he took the fall for it, and it's like awful, and they joined forces and they rob the guy Binde and get him arrested and happily ever after everyone gets some money and runs away. Yes, because they don't actually have to rob him. Instead, what they do is because they discovered that he was doing insurance fraud, so Sterling was robbing from himself reporting good stolen people were going to jail because of it, and then he was getting that insurance money those payouts.

So then what they do is, rather than steal money from him, instead they put what he had reported stolen back in his vault, call the cops so that the cops come and see, oh, none of this stuff was stolen. Insurance fraud alert are going to jail, and they don't actually like get. Jewelry from this. Instead, it's just like, oh, his wife, who like hopefully we can trust in this scenario. I was like, Okay, Yeah, Now I have all this money, so I'm gonna give you both a lot of.

Money, right, because I think that's like, ultimately what it is. Yeah, that's what she said. She's like, look, you guys, yeah, there's sure there's five hundred thousand in that vault that I want it all right, and I'll set you both for life? Is that the deal? And I guess she held up her into the deal because during the credits, which was actually really lovely credits, you get to see a get to see a Christmas morning and clearly Mom's hair has grown back, so she's doing.

Well. Yeah, and everyone it's like, you know, he's reconciled with his estranged family even though he's in love with you know, Mss Sophie and Nicholas. We might have forgotten to mention in love along the way. Yeah, you know. And the and they do one of those classic final kisses at the very end of the film, and you know that part of it is definitely a Christmas move.

Uh, but you know there's twist, but we should I was totding those off tail the tropes. So anyway, anyway, so Sterling goes to jail, gets flipped off for very lot of twisty reasons. The wife inherits everything, Sterling's is in the black for Christmas, moms cured for cancer and they all moved to Birmingham, Happy ever after. Yeah that's pretty much it. So, yeah, it's an odd because it does.

It's one of those movies that you wonder if the script was even a Christmas script now that I'm thinking about it, because it feels because I was watching this like with a bit of a higher expectation on this was on the Blacklist, right, and scripts on the Blacklist are usually like really well written scripts, whether it's a really good writer with dialogue or it's like a really great story, and I'm watching it like kind of trying to figure out, like, wait, this is like okay, but like it's not. Is it Blacklist? Okay, not so much. And then so by the end, when you get to the twists, it made me wonder was this did this start as like a harder story with maybe a more elaborate heisty element, or was it a more like Christmas movie with these elements that elevated what is normally a very bland Christmas movie.

And I don't know because I didn't. Really look up more from that, but it feels a bit like I could almost see this as just having been like an Ocean's eleven type script. And then somebody at Netflix was like, you know, if we make it Christmas, we've got we got we know people will watch it, because I can't imagine this getting much attention if it was not like, you know, airing in the same you know, your window of you might like because you watched Hot Frosty. Well, I mean there's this hot there's this plot twist which we'll talk about when we talk about the lead actress. That means that clearly she was in there for revenge the whole time, right, it was she was coasing, she was Casey Sterling's and it wasn't just about Petty.

That she was up to something. We will never know what that is because everything turned into such a jolly, happy rop. But she's been be embedded for a while, she had two jobs. But you know, clearly, I mean she was she knewho Stirling was. She was fully aware of what he who he was, and what her relationship was with him.

So why was she there? Why was she there? Creepy? Right, There's a lot more, and it makes it does make me wonder then, like was the original Blacklist script much heavier, much more adult, much darker. Like I think there's.

Little things that happened in this movie that you could do an R rated version of and not like, oh, we'll just throw a boobs it, not that, but. Like there's themes going on here were. Like you could tell a kind of like much harder edged version of the story. Let's go straight into the tropes then, because it really has to do about the actress herself. You know, you have you a wholt stars in this and you're talking about our rated version of this, but she was in the R rated version of it.

She stars and Hard Eyes, which was all a Valentine's Day one of these movies that came out this February. I went to see it in the theaters, and she understands the romance holiday movie with the with the with the couple that doesn't get along at first and eventually slowly warms up. In Hard Eyes, they're being chased by a slasher villain, but in this one, there's no slasher villain, just a real big asshole. But that's so that's Olivia Holt plain Sofia. So she's extremely likable person.

But I still think, yeah, she, like I said, she I told you this, she understands the assignment because she's done this before. She's done this on you know, here's a legit one she did want that was a parody. But she plays basically, she knows how to play it straight because if you don't play it straight, it's not gonna work. She has pappoo dog eyes out to eleven and it's like, you know, yeah, she's just like, oh, you know so. And she looks amazing.

Whether you put her in a class, you know, form or a ball gown for the gala, she looks amazing. And Sophia is okay. Sophia is the name of Hope Matt. That's the latinate Hope. Met is the Hebrew name for the Holy Spirit.

I know this because my daughter's middle name is Sophia. So that's so she is a religious name in a backhanded kind of way. And of course Nicholas is Nicholas, right, so you know, the bland, the bland love interest in boys. He bland in that British kind of way. Yeah he did.

I will say he grew on me. But for the first half hour I was like this is what we're working with. This is what we got because she's so lovely, right, she's adorable, she's great, she's very funny, she's got great timing and like as a character too, Like she's impressive. Right, she's a great thief. She's really like quick witted, like she's somebody I want, like a man to be worthy of her.

And this guy I'm like for a while, like first of myth I don't I don't like he got more attractive as the movie went on, but he felt very like this guy. Like also, he's always wearing like a sad winter hat and he's not dressed well and like he's just sort of there. And it felt like I didn't feel like he deserved her. Well, I mean he was, to be fair, he was down on his luck and he got thrown in jail for something that didn't do. And you know, yeah, there's a lot of work on her side.

And it's a Christmas movie, Like I don't want I don't want the woman to have to work to bring the guy up. You know, well, okay, but I will give them credit for trying to subvert true sure true that so and this movie does attempt to subvert Troe quite a bit so I but no, Nick reminded me. I think he was in a completely different movie. He was in like the if Train Spotting was on Wish. Yeah, yeah, that's funny.

He was a different movie. But yeah, I think as the movie goes on, their chemistry gets stronger and the stronger, and the kids at the end is earned. Absolutely feels earned. Do you feel like they went through it? They got through it.

He wasn't widowed, but he was divorced with kids, and he was about to lose his kid and of course was about to move away. That seems to be a more common Christmas trope we're getting nowadays too, besides the uh uh you know they're dead so you know, Well, when you. Can cast an actress that looks like a British Jennifer Connelly, I feel like. So much like same God, the same, Like what. Is the thing that Jennifer Connelly does, like where she just has that like resting, intense face.

I guess is what I like? She just looks like somebody, like you know, like in your you're in a supermarket, you need to ask somebody for help, and like it might just be like you look at the person next to you. You're like, oh, sorry, can you reach that for me? If I did that and I turned around and it was her, I'd be like, oh, oh god, no, no, I'm sorry. I didn't.

I didn't mean to disturb you. You're clearly very very busy. Like that's always what I get from her, and I got that very much from this woman. Yeah, no, I did too. Actually, I mean I was like, oh wow.

And actually at one point I looked at that family and I go, you know, you don't really deserve this family. Yeah, even after he was innocent. That's not how you're supposed to feel about your lead. And I don't want I don't want to say he was unlikable. He wasn't unlikable.

He just was for one of these films, he just even felt out of place. Yeah yeah, you. Know, but to be fair, I have seen him in other work, and I've liked him in other things. So and and and you know, and and the supporting cash is all very British and that makes me happy. A lot of British character actors, including the Sterling and his wife and you know, so you know, what am I to say?

They guys got work and you know, hey, they they followed the script as written. All right, so our setting in this case, obviously we have a big bad city, right, We've got. London, London, London. Well, it's a big bad apartment store because that's kind of a villain. The apartment store is just as much as villain as Stirlings.

Well, I mean capitalism, I think is kind of the big villain. Yeah, yeah, because yeah, so so yeah, I would say that, you know, you know, I'd also kept the apartment store in that too. Nope, we're setting so all. Right, it's number four number of parents or wife. Not this time, not time.

We have a dying mother. I feel like that's even more points. Yeah, yeah, we have Importantly, we have a dead grandpa who's very important in a lot of the like. And it's I guess it needed to be the grandpa because it couldn't be the dad for for reasons we'll get to. But it was like a very like I kept waiting for that to be something, right, I kept waiting for like the Grandpa's magic to like really pay off, or for like a picture of the grandpa to be somewhere, and it's not.

It's just like they just keep it's like that part where it makes you realize this was a movie as opposed to a Christmas movie, where in a Christmas movie, like everything would have to be there for a reason because you're not like wasting time otherwise, whereas in this I'm like bet in the original script, like there were flashbacks to the grandpa or or something else on that. Well and cancer mom tweet fair, we did not you know honestly the type of cancer her mom had. There's this movie, this story I cannot believe in the original draft wit well, right, like what do they say, Chris, what cancer it was? Or it was just like no, but it's it's it's movie cancer. But you know, but but the way she looks, I would lean towards pancreatic.

Possibly that would make sense. It would also be why they would have to go to experimental treatments because that's the third leading killer in the world right cancer wise, But let''s not tough. Yeah, cancer in my Christmas moved. Welcome Christmas Christmas with cancer. That again, as somebody who lost her mother to cancer during Christmas, I am totally the one to make jokes about it.

So come here for all of that stuff. But that I feel like, if you're gonna do a Christmas movie like one day, we need and maybe we just need to write it. We need Like Christmas with Cancer as. A movie is very I mean, your mom died during Christmas, which I remember that was horrible and my condulessness once again, my father he died during spooky season for me, and you know, that's a busy season. So you know, it's just as you know, I understand it completely.

Yeah, but it's sometimes the best way to do it is to joke about it. And I mean, I don't know about you. My father was so gallows humor. I'll tell you off camera about that. But we were making jokes.

Oh yeah, the last six weeks of life. He was dark humor and dry because he loved Monty Python, so his humor was as dry as a bone. So you know, recipes Dad. His birthday, by the way, is December twenty sixth. A celebration of all of our dead parents.

We love them, they fire us, and they allow us. To make jokes about such things. And there's no dead parents in this movie except for a no, but there is a dead grandfather, but I you know, but he's really more just to throw away line to excuse why she's so good at pictures. True. So all right, so all right, so we're to number four then right, Yes that's a sidekick.

Ralph I think is the sassy sidekick this year. Yeah. Yeah, Ralph is his roommate. He's more wealthy, but he's obviously gameer lazy, Like that's the whole joke, Like he has one joke. He is gameerlazy.

He just sits on the couch playing video games the entire movie. Did you see the size of that apartment? Oh my god, that's like worse than a New York apartment move in a movie. Yeah. But like if I was bringing my daughter to my exes and I knew, like, oh my ex doesn't have a place of his own, but he's living with his friend, and I showed up to that apartment, I'd be like, oh, actually this isn't so bad.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's a huge apartment. So he has rude uh you know, and and I will say nice guy to help his and he totally he totally knows about the theory and and everything with that, you know. But they're really that's really it. I Mean, there's a lot of side characters. There's a lot of characters that I thought might like because she has a lot of like female coworkers who who are named and who have moments of dialogue, and I kept thinking like, oh, one of them will have something, but then they're all just there purely so that she can manipulate.

For like you said, she is a sociopath in many ways, and she is like using every single person around her. She's very friendly. Everybody likes her because she is nice to people and she gets to know them, and she's smart about you know, like knowing what to do to distract them. But I mean it's all in service of what she's trying to do, so which. We will never will know because she got distracted by this whole hest thing, but she had her own plan.

Like and yeah, okay, I called her psychotic, but you call her sociopath, that'd probably be more correct. She's yeah, but still lading that she has some kind of conjects with you. You know, it could be working. She she could be functioning. I'm not saying she's a bad person, you know everyone Okay, So oh and speaking of sociopaths, we do have one for sure.

And it's like like like the villain is so good, like he's do you boot him? Like he's like wrestling bo like villain. He like you just want you just want to boot him the whole you're Sarawitz. He looks so familiar and yet like he's a really long IMDb so it's hard to kind of like pull out exactly what you know him from. I guess Guarding into the Galaxy is probably his big thing.

He was in one of the John Wicks. He's in he does. The voice, No, yeah, he does. He did Dark Mall and Clone Wars uh and uh. I think Random Menace actually the voice not because Ray Park didn't do his own voice.

But you've seen him everywhere I would see. Yeah, he's absolutely everywhere. I believe he's in a Mister Bean movie. Also, he's always Yeah, he's always one of those comedy villains like Leslie Nielsen. If you need a straight guy to say absolutely hysterical things, you hire him, you know, then that's what he's, you know, And it's nice to see him have the supporting role.

And I'm sure he made a bit of a chunk of change on that, so yay. But boy is this character vile like he is like one of the worst Christmas villains so and I think this is probably why it was on. The black twist is the big plot twist between him and the main character. You know, because I will say when when it happened, in the moment happens, I I didn't see it coming and it was like plot twists and I should have. I should have seen it.

It was they've been there. Yeah, I felt dumb too, because they hint on right, we know that you know she's got cancer mom, and that she was she mentions like, oh, yeah, I was. I was born here and we moved because my father didn't want anything to do with my family. And the entire time. Like okay, you know, and you kind of goes out of your mind because you're just not thinking much about it, and so much so that there is a Christmas gala where she is there trying to you know, there's a side.

Part of their plan is for Nick to seduce the villain's wife in order to get access to the codes and the fobs and the closet and all that stuff. And while that's happening, she bumps into this man who proceeds to hit on her right and again you don't think much because you know that she's just trying to get the money, So this isn't anything. But then would you like to give the big reveal as she goes to complete her mission and open the safe. Yeah, So they get to they finally get to the safe and realize it's the biolock they need. She they need a genetic sample from the from the family, not from very important to say, from the family, and not from the owner of the actual walk, or it wouldn't work.

So I don't know if that's a plot hole, but that's it's but it's just the Yeah. So she pushes her finger and it accepts her, and it turns out that she is the daughter of mister. Sterling, the father of the You are. The father, and she remembered him when she was four years old her her mom took him to see her and and so she actually knew who he was and her whole life. And he knew who she was as well, and rejected him and then flew away.

But she didn't recognize her as right. He didn't know her as an adult. He wouldn't RECOGNI. Yah, But he figures it out at the end, I thought. But he he knows, he knows she's you know, she he knew where as a kid, and and she knew who he was, so you know, and he did and she kept that from her partner, from from Nicholas.

And I don't know that was a pretty big quiet to keep apart from well Nicholas. But do you think she knew because she does go and find she finds out about the safe right, she goes to the safe company and basically says, I want what he has and learns all the details. Supposedly. Do you think she knew that she'd have to give the DNA sample or do you think she just didn't know when it was a happy coincidence that obviously it would work for. Her, I would say, a little column, a little Colmby.

I think she she she was holding on to that information and only giving it if she was gonna have to not it. That's that's what I think. Like, like, you know, you don't volunteer information, and a good thief never does, so, you know, So that's why that's why I think, once again she's a sociopath. He tells people what you need to hear, you know, so you know, I see such total utter sociopath but but but a likable one. And then but yeah, but look at her father.

You know, the genetics so far from this tree here. You know, her father's kind of a sister pat and she had a really loving mother raised her. That's why she has empathy. Right, So there's nature versus nurture going on too. It's such a deep Christmas movie.

You're right. It is a variation of Dexter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so all right, so female, and there's no real other villains in this movie. I mean, the city maybe itself. You know, we're gonna have one because we think maybe his wife is gonna also be either kind of in the way or cause problems, but she ends up being an ally.

So yeah, and but I still wouldn't trust that woman as far as I can throw her. Oh completely. I hope they got things. I mean, she's not trustworthy. And that was by the way.

That's Lucy Punch, who has played the ugly stepsister in so many versions of Cinderella I cannot count. So she really is just delightful and it was nice to see her have such a good featured role. So I love her to dad. You'll see you if you look at her, you're like, oh my god, I've seen her and everything. Yeah.

Yeah, so you know she's she's always that. She's always like the evil stepsister, the best friend or one of those characters. So okay, so where are we at. We're at number seven the montage. Okay, did you record montages because I really only saw one or two and they weren't very long.

Yeah, I had, there weren't many. I would say there is an early what I thought was gonna be like a full one where I wrote it down as heist montage, but then it kind of didn't go the way I thought it would. I think this was the first when. They first tried to do the safe and I think it's going a certain way, and it's kind of like I'm like, oh, good, do the ocean's eleven, right, do the split screen, do the talking up here? Do this?

Like I'm like, I'm not the biggest heist movie person, but if it's on and I get if I can get to the heist montage, the gathering, the team, like the planning, the like where it's like one thing is moving this way and another thing is moving this way. Like I love that stuff and I was hoping we get that and I thought we were, and then it kind of doesn't. We were also denied a tuxedo fitty montage. Yeah, that was that's I was actually angry about that. The second time we've watched a movie where they've hinted at a montage for clothes and not done it.

And I thought like, because I feel like I thought it was going in a direction and I don't know if I just blinked and missed it or not. But he says, like, they're gonna go to this gala, and he says, why I need a tux And I thought it was gonna be my dead magician grandfather is dead tux. And it is. It is right. It was like, yeah, you.

Should have then been like, oh, but I have to remove the cape and I have to sew up the sleight of hand thing like missed opportunity. No, it's said he finds out by finding the scarps in the Yeah. So, but but the way she did it, she threw her car, She drew a credit card down and said, well, we need to get you a text. And I thought we're going to something, We're gonna steal something from We're in it. We're in a department store.

Yeah, no shopping montages. Right, yeah, that's a shame. Then there is a kind of it again, it's it missed, missed opportunity. But we do have the Christmas Eve montage of the daughter comes over, they open present, she's opening present, mom, like yeah, and it's not enough, but like there's something. And then I guess you could say the closing scene over the credits, it's not a montage.

Actually, that's just that's not a montage. That's just that's just a stinger. Yeah no, but oh well, you know it's not the worst. It didn't really need a montage. Family it might have elevated, you know, yeah, exactly.

But it did have the next thing in space. Yes, it had quite a lot of slapstick. Oh my, people are fighting, people are falling, and there's classical music and trees be knocked down, people going through roofs of a. Lot of decorations on the ground that you slip on. Uh sneezing and dropping bases on your.

Computer, flower allergy related slapstick, a. Lot of hiding behind desks. There's that going on too. I mean it was filled with that kind of stuff, like you got that in spades. I guess that made up for the black on montage.

All right, it's number nine or sage old person. You know there, really is it? One? The closest I could get was her boss at the bar, and I don't even know her name. Did she have a name?

I could not figure it out. I even rewatched the scene with her in it, tried to figure her name. Was. Yeah, I could not get sing right, she's an early on and then yeah, yeah, yeah she doesn't really no. Not much.

Yeah, I'm kind of like, but I'm gonna go to a just I think going going forward like Sage old Person, Slash the merry Matron. It was kind of the way I see it as like often it's the same person or like it's like the older woman who is not Slash. She's not sidekick, right, she's definitely a different field, but she's very particular, like the woman who's there when food is involved or when a beverage is involved, so kind of sometimes it's one in the same well. And she does have beverages. Yeah, exactly got that, you know, but you know, and a cancer mom is not this age older because she's sick all the time.

Anything. I mean, she I think she gave maybe one or two sentences about being happy. Yes, but I mean I give it all right now you don't. Know, Oh my god, what goes? When was the last time you had unprotected sex?

Emily? Yes, I remember when my mother asked me that under death, but I was like, what the fuck again. That's where it's like, we're not Hallmark, We're Netflix. We can see yeah. Yeah, they even even us too.

There's two two characters say ship yeah at one point too. So there's hussing in our Sometimes. You feel like it's just them being like, yeah, that's right, that's right, we did that. We did that. We're edgy.

Yeah, we're rebels. They're cool Christmas movies. Yeah. And and because of that are Santa Claus. He just sits in the background and laughs as all.

I mean, we do have Santa Con, which. I good. God is there When you think of like the ten plagues that are like unleashed upon humanity in the Bible, I feel like if we were to do that today, one of them would be Santa Con. I think Santa Con is the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity in my lifetime. Oh, I mean, I but it's very the very first Santa con happened in San Francisco Bay area when I grew up there, and they actually ended up having tours because they got filmed.

It's the white famous videos footing around somewhere. But but and we do have Father Christmas at the mall, like like you know, the department store. Like I said, all he does basically is sit there and laugh at the fighting, which I would honestly that was kind of funny. I would have it was funny. So you know they're fighting over a Mushie Fox.

Yeah, and again I thought that would come into play more because they have this like fake toy that I'm like thinking, like, oh okay, like this is gonna be a thing somehow, Like the actual reveal is gonna be like I don't know, like a golden Moushi Fox or a Mushie Fox is gonna save the day. And like it's used once in the heist of like. As a distraction because I guess it's kind of like a tickle me elmow type thing where everybody's going crazy for it or if they say they ran out, they can. But it just was like it's here and like it doesn't do anything like or it could have been really funny. You could have made it where like it tells.

Jokes or it's just funny, and like then like something serious happens and a character accidentally squeezes it and it. Has a one liner, just like there was something there. Otherwise, why was it so prominent? I don't know, A Mashie Fox I thought was gonna be a lot more prominent than it was. Yeah, but but we did get a good ball fight see out of it.

So why don't they thought they were going jingle all the way with it for a moment the same? Yeah? So yeah, all right, all right? Would we have eight out of ten kind of seven out of ten? Yeah, because I don't really honestly, I don't think we can really give it the montage point.

I really don't. Think the present montage was a montage. Okay, it's true, it's true. And and and we did have the establishing montage shot of London, which all these movies have. The big city movie always has the establishing series of shots to show where they are with some landmark and some Christmas maybe a sannah ringing a bell.

That goes along. We did get that, so okay, So so eight out of ten, So it pretty close to the card Christmas. And there are some pretty interesting bonus stuff too. Let's do it all right. So I want to first of all say I'm going to give this a star for this.

I thought the score to this movie was good. It was like I actually think it was the highlights of this movie. Uh. The original stuff that they wrote was jazzy and very hip hop. They actually they actually paid for songs like Christmas House Queens.

Uh, Charlie Brown Christmas, the Peanuts Christmas song was in there, and I was like, wait, that's not free. They also had clips of uh, what was that that famous Snowman of London and. I wonder, Oh, yeah, from domain or not. I don't know. I don't know it did say with Purtesy from a studio because I read the credit that's at the end, because.

Like one of those videos they would show us elementary school all the time, and I remember that would rotate with Steamboat Willie, so in my mind like, oh, but probably because it was public domain, although that wasn't public domain back then. So yeah, no, they paid for stuff. No, they paid for it. So that being said, there is some number one public domain holiday songs sprinkled in and there. Now I looked at the credits, and the credits said deck the Hollege, jingle bells and oh Christmas tree right was in there.

I did not hear those. Oh no, I did. I wrote down, there's a techno jingle bells during the Santa. Con Okay, that must be what. Okay, there's a little bit.

Of like a slight piano a Christmas tree just during one of the transitions. Mm hmm. Okay, so you did catch that. Yeah, and then the lounge singer singing. Joy to the World, Joy to the World.

See, that was the one that I have circled was Joy to the World, because that was very, very prominent right in the middle of oh yeah, that's a. Big like stop and look at the guy. Yeah, you had you had a fair amount of word salad Christmas songs. If you watch the credits, then you probably saw this too. That Like I didn't really go through all of them, but there was at least two or three that were credited to somebody called Lil Cheesecake.

Yeah, I saw that. I did see that. So, like a lot of these songs seem to be they actually paid money for songs, and that actually is what defines a Netflix movie I think over the other ones is because they will pay for music. And sometimes there's just showing off to do it that they can. Well, yeah, because music often is lot of people don't realize one of the most expensive things about your movie is your sound is your soundtracking, what music are allowed to use.

I mean. It always goes back to that commentary on twenty eight days later when Danny Boyle says the most expensive like two seconds of his movie is that they have a Christmas decoration. Playing Frosty the Snowman. Yeah, like it had to be that song because it was a snowman And he's like, that almost made our movie unfilmable because of the budget. M yeah, so there you go.

So yeah, but but still, yeah, I give him credit for giving you know, a actual like smart They actually they actually paid money to to music musicians. Yeah, not Ai Slot. It's very immuch in the day and age that they do that. You're right, Oh my god, it's gonna be terrifying next year you do this, your music might not just be Christmas words lap Salid. Yeah, yeah, but no, yeah, Aid Tour.

Something that is awful right now is that A couple of years ago, during the Olympics. Now, figure skating has always obviously used music. The rights issues were never really that much of an issue because it's not like it's used very briefly. It's not, you know, often like resold or anything. And during the Olympics a couple of the twenty twenty two Olympics, a band got basically, we're like, wait a minute, there's there's somebody skating to our music at the Olympics.

They need to pay us, and they sued this team and ever since then, music rights in figure skating have been really hard to get because now suddenly it's like you have to go through the. Same channels you'd have to go and you didn't have to previously. And so what they did this year for one part of figure skating and ice dance, there's a rhythm, there's the short program that this year the theme was the nineties, so it has to be nineties music. But then they amended the rule to that to say it has to be music from the nineties. It could be a cover of a nineties song, or it could be AI generated in the style of a nineties music And guess what, there are teams do that and it's awful and yet you vaguely understand because you're like, it's a lot of money to license a song that you have to use, but like this is what hell has wrought upon us, Like of all the places, now, did you're skating?

Are you kidding me? It's the same for professional wrestling, because you know, wrestlers come out to music, and even our theme song to my wrestling promotion, Deep South Wrestling is Ai Nickel black Slop, you know, and I no, no, I I don't like that world. No, no, I'm with you. I'm a broken record on it. So I'll give you a hug.

I will support you next year and give you hugs while you have to go through these movies because you know it's gonna be a problem this year. This year is it's still with people are still filming over a year ago to get these films in, so it's not as prevalent next year. I think it's ex fitting everywhere. Yeah, we don't need screenwriters. We can generate this And like, okay, fine, yes I could.

I could compile all the things we've talked about right through scripts of paper and pull them out in order and have a Christmas script right there that's still not the same as just eating things into a friggin technolo. Anyway, anyway, we don't have. To way well happier stories or things or maybe not. There is no secret family recipes. No, there's not no baking.

It's not there's not even really food at the uh at the department store that the coffee and donuts. There's like they talk about it a lot. It's like, oh, the carts here, go get your gingerbread. Oh I love that gingerbread. We don't see the gingerbread.

Yeah. So that also means nobody's trying to eat on camera either, so that goes away not necessarily. There is really uh huh yeah, yep, we'll get to that. There is, Okay, we'll get to that in a minute. There's there's no small business in danger.

No, it's just well health care, it's just you know, my is in danger because of capitalism, so. It's h and my and my kids is going to be moved away because of capitalism. So you know. Yeah, product placement was all generated fake shit. It was actually kind of cool.

Nothing was real. They're all like Stirlings isn't real, This is not I. Just googled it to make sure because I was like, wait, what if it's a British thing that we just don't know about. Nope, it's not. No, No, it's supposed to be Herod's.

It's standing in for Herods. It even looks like Harrod's. Like I said, on the outside for sure, on the inside a little bit. So have you ever been to Herods? Nope, I've I've only been to England in passing.

I've only been in the airport while doing a layover. I've never had You got to go to London yet, dude, Emily, if you go to England, I have a feeling because I know you you will just stay. Yeah. It is so your city. You you love it everything, the moment of it.

Yeah, on the longland. So yeah, so yeah, don't roll out going to London. It's not actually not that hard from your part of the world. But it's a five hour flight. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done it.

It's not bad. So all right, So chloeing child, you get a kid, but she's not that bad. She's really cute. Yeah, she's like only what two three lines tops, and they're all about hi daddy, I love you daddy, that kind of stuff. So I don't know if anything four or five thereabouts.

I was a five. Yeah, And I think what I liked about her was she didn't feel like she was a kid actor at all. It felt like it was like, just put the kid on camera, just have the kid play with the guy ahead of time so she's comfortable with him, have her walk into the room and like not say anything, just kind of like play off and let everybody play around her like And I thought like she felt like a kid, which I liked. Yeah, I like that too. So yeah, she wasn't bad that.

It could have been so much worse, you know. Yeah, we've we've got through that one. Dancer Boy, Oh my god. Still still that was I'm still scarred from that one, seriously. Oh and that was the year that he wasn't even the worst one.

There was a worst kid in another movie that year. I was thinking about that because as it was, it came up on like a the Cinematrix grid I do, where it's like movie trivia, who can you put what movie can you pull for something? And I was like, what was the brock Shield one Holiday Harmony? Oh my god? Remember the child from that movie?

And then it made me think of the child's and stepping into the holiday. Yeah, children never die. They stayed in their brains. Oh well, it's all good. That whole movie scarred me.

But anyway, so this one didn't. That's why I said. That's why I thank you said for going off easy, because that one was for me. That was the worst. I did not like that one at all.

All right, So all right, finding the perfect tree, no, we do not get that. No, but but cancer mom. Christmas Eve they decorate a little tree for in the hospital, which I thought was so yeah, and I think that counts for the brain. But there is a little acknowledgment of we need a tree for Christmas, and I thought I was cute. Yeah.

Same. All right, So MV coffee got back to everybody's favorit my favorite. Oh but god, have you noticed that other things now have brought the attention of the empty coffee cupany like, it's mainstream now you were first. Yeah, now you see it. The people pointed out everywhere.

Now, so you know, I need to trademark this stuff. It's it's getting upsetting. Yeah, I know they read your brain. But there's there's a fair share of it. It's not terrible, but there is a fair share of it in this movie.

So, and there's one where, like when they're at the diner where she does like, I feel like, I don't think it's I think it's actually deliberate where she's like picks up her mug and does like a like deep deep slurp, and I think it's actually like to kind of button the scene. So yeah, so yeah, So it wasn't egregious, you know, it wasn't people like practically throwing them at each other or like balancing them on top of each other. It's even better than what I saw yesterday at the Thanksgiving Day parade. Starbucks gave a bunch of people a coffee on the side for a ad. But if you notice a lot of them are just kind of going back, it's a raahal, oh my god, it's it will always be part of Christmas is empty coffee cup.

Act it's not Christmas with that empty coffe cups. So number eight, so actors trying hard not to eat something. No, no, like they But there is at least two times where Nick eats on camera, Lizzy. Yeah, one is at the Yalla where like he just grabs an appetizer and. Like shoves it down his mouth, but the other is in the diner, so they are sitting down and this this caught my eye because of this is when I started thinking too much about it.

They both have what's like a breakfast sandwich. It looks like a roll with egg and like stuff on there, or I think they like it looks like burgers at first, but then they like say something about it being breakfast, so I'm like, okay, it's a breakfast sandwich. And he does take a bite of it. He actually does take a bite out of it. But what caught my attention more was like they're in a sit down place and they're at the table and these sandwiches are just sitting on top of napkins, and I'm watching it, thinking, why don't they have plates.

It'd be one thing if it was like, oh, you go up to the counter and like you get it in tinfoil and you sit down and unwrapping, Yeah, right, like McDonald's sandwich. But it was like, but it wasn't rapping. It was napkins. And I just thought to myself, how did that work? Did the waitress.

Hand them like a napkin and slide it on their hand? Did they sit. Down and the waitress was like, oh, we ran out of plate, so here, tip your your napkin this way so I can get it on there without taking my hand and putting on them there. It was very distracting to me, look for it. I mean, they have what is those There's like these petite or what I know the name of it.

There's these like really weird little French grabbing girl places in London. Maybe it was one of them and they just didn't grab a plate. I don't know. Again, if it was a rapper, i'd be fine, but it's a napkin, and that just seemed very strange to me. You know, who knows it's a new London pestin.

You know, we're lucky. They were eating beans and tomato and bacon and all that kind of stuff, which you know, which is actually is not as bad as people think it is in English breakfast. But I don't know. Now I'm all confused and weirded out. Yeah, so okay, so I missed those.

And so number nine definitely not Canadian. This was actually shot on location. Oh yeah, it feels like somewhere. Yeah, all right, And then number ten is our warm weather watch. I don't know how cold it gets anywhere anymore.

I've realized, like this was something very sad. It's like, well, global warming is happening. December used to be very cold, like in New York, and it's not anymore. So maybe you don't need gloves in London in December. I don't know.

When I was there, it was pretty it was April and it was pretty cold, you know it was. But it's London. London is always kind of cold and wet. I mean, it's it's just kind of how it works. It's I don't know if we can even give this one account because you know, there's no snow.

We didn't have any snow, so it does snow for Christmas there. But you're right, with global warming, London gets hit before we do with the with climate change. Climate change is gonna affect London a lot faster than us, So maybe I don't know. But and they were, but they weren't really dressed very heavily like like she had. She had a peak coat on sometimes, and he wore scarf and gloves and a hat, but and and glasses, but it was more for disguise than actual function.

True. So so yeah, yeah, all right, number Levin is our old people, uh, matchmaking and trying to push our leads together. Well, I would say that the line about when's the last time you had unprotected sex? When's that point? Because that is just when's that?

Like? Who? Like what mom would actually ask that? Well? I feel like this mom like probably you know, like there are some moms who likes a lot.

I feel a lot because that's why this girl knew growing up my dad is was an awful deadbeat and it's my mom got pregnant because she wasn't careful and this guy wasn't taking care of her. And she trusted him. So I bet this mother drilled it. Into her head all of her life, but was also like, but it was fun and I had you, so it was all worth it. That's my theory about this family.

Well, and also she she also might be rushing it because you know, she's dying and maybe she wants to know that her mother her daughters settled down with a nice London boy. Yes, mother, m all right. So now last we talk about the fashion. We have both Peacoat based and non Peacoat based, so peacoats in this she has like a tan pea coat. Right, yeah, I mean the coats were really like I said, it wasn't.

There was sweaters, but not a lot of coats. I will say that the uniforms at the apartment store where we're Super Christmas, like the red and green with a little they were brown though, well they're the skirts were beige, but the the top shirt was red and green with a little tie like like, yeah, look at it. It's red and green. It's it's it's it's a pastel color, but it's red and green. It's absolutely Christmas color.

They're all dressed in Kissel's color because. Those are flattering, but they look more brown. Red. No, no, no, no, no, they're red and green. They're they're they're absolutely Christmas color.

It's the kind of uniform because I actually double checked it before I came on air. It's a type of uniform you would wear around Christmas time in a high end department store. So so there's that. And the Galla had a lot of nice uh I mean, I mean, London, London can rock suit. We know this, like like uh, you know, Londoners know how to rock.

There their male attire and there's a lot of nice suits. The Costan women's costumes were nights, but nothing really stood out. I didn't even think that her her dress was pretty, but not like I've seen her wear less flattering things and look more of a knockout. Yeah, so this is Olivia so far. The I guess another thing I'm gonna start look out for is the like sprinkly wow moment on the female like reveal in a formal wear because this is the last movie ha happened in this one where it's like, you know, the whole like oh, like she turns around and it's like and you see it from the man's point of view of what she looks like, and she's kind of like it was.

It red or brown? I thought her dress was brown? Is brown chocolate? Right? Okay?

Yeah? It was a golden brownish color. Yeah. I mean she looked lovely. She's a good looking woman, but also like, it wasn't anything like popping.

However, there is a fabulous fashion moment at that gala. It just is not oh please tell us our missus sterling the. Ell Yeah, missus wife, she had the missus white second. Oh ah, it was a high low, which is something I never would wear because it short. Women don't look at high lows, but it was.

Like, huh would have this like witchy feel to it, and I couldn't quite tell the color, but like then it like because it keeps going. So you see her at different angles, like as she takes off her coat, and so you could see that, Like her tights were like black with gold kind of like up coming from it. So it was like very like looked very expensive. And she had that incredible peacock hat. Right, she's got the hat.

That's what she left that hat on when she was gonna have sex with him. So you wear a hat like that, you were wearing that through the night, You wear that to get to the bedroom, and then you keep it on in the bedroom. Yeah, you know I'd be okay with that. So yeah, no, sh she she got. That's why I really was happy for for uh, you know, for her, you know, like I said, she's what she looked great.

Lucy Punch looked amazing in those outfits, and she was the high and the highlight of the fashion of this movie. I also want to say a shout out not to the fashion itself, but to the Christmas decorations, especially inside the department store. I thought they it looked the Christmas was nailed inside the department store. I really liked all the trees before it. Yeah, and that's one of those things where I feel like a movie like this, especially a Netflix version of it.

Kind of pays for itself because you. Can turn this on and even put it on mute or put it like low and have it on the background while you're wrapping, presence, while you're cooking, while you're decorating, and like. If you just happen to, like look at it in the background. It looks like Christmas, right, it feels and it's pretty like it's a again, it's it's had a budget unlike a lot of the other ones, so it has that like kind of visually pleasing aesthetic throughout the film that is something of note. I guess there's a reason why.

This is one to like, yeah, like have it on your list because it's fine and it's again a little more interesting, but also like it looks pretty. I would, you know, recommend this one. I think that if you're a fan of this subgenre, this one is actually going to be a pleasant surprise because it's gonna go places you don't expect it to and in a good way, because a lot of these people I know that watch these love these films. They're like warm fuzzy blankets to them, Like, I like, why I watched Terrifire three. It's a warm fuzzy blanket of blood.

You know, I'm with you. Yeah, So you know, so I think they'll like it. And I would also say this is a good icebreaker for people that don't really like these kind of movies. Yeah, so so you know, The Christmas Princes was the same way. I think it was one of those kind of films that's made for a wider audience than just the people that go to hallmart yeah and watch these movies.

And it's so funny when you think about it, when you have something that has such a clear, dedicated, specific audience and you know that you can make, you know what to make for them, and they're gonna come and they're gonna watch it. And then the challenge is like, but how do how do we get the people that actively don't think they're part of that group? And I feel like you're right, this is a good kind of bridge to that because it does feel like a movie, right. There is absolutely a script here, there are twists, there's a story. They're good actors, and it looks nice and so you could get the person to sit down and be like, no, but it's a movie.

You can watch it like, you're not gonna unlike a Hallmark movie. You're not gonna be able to tell me the next line when I pause it like it does go in surprising places. It grew on me as I watched it at first, I was kind of like, well, oh, man, like this is kind of not hitting me. And I think it's not at the level of some of the ones that I think really do. Kind of push past and become something that you're like, this was a great movie.

I think this was good, And that's a lot for I think this genre of movie. I would put it with like Red One, like like some people are gonna like watch that movie every year, and some people might even watch this film every year. But I don't think it's gonna be classic like the first Christmas Christmas Prince movie is gonna it has become you know, or or any you know. But I enjoyed it. I like I said, I watched it one and a half times.

I didn't feel like like I wanted to stab myself in the eyes like I did with the Mario Lopez one. Yeah, but I would still say of all the films that we reviewed, the two Bruce Capell movies have still been my favorite. I'm with you, even with even with even with Santa Johs in there, But I brought you Santa Johs back. What a gift? What a gift?

Saying Santa Claus felt John's is probably closer to Trope than this film. Is this. Anyway? So thank you for the cozy Cardivan Christmas. I am now officially the tree has literally arrived since we were talking.

So I'm gonna when I when we're done recording, I'm gonna go put a Christmas tree up. So that's the way to do it. So tell everybody at home where else they can find you. Well, right now, I am retired from my podcast, though there is rumors that we might be starting another one related to the works of Jess Franco if you know who that is. But I also right now I am actually making live appearances.

I am helping with a whistling promotion here in Atlanta called Deep South Wrestling. Yes, my boy my boyfriend's on commentary and I am the hype girl on the front and I sell merch during the show, so you can come. Our next show is on the thirtieth, so just in a couple of days from now. We run shows once and twice a month, and they're free. We don't pay a dime, so come see them.

Glorious all right, well, thank you, and of course, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I'm happy New Year. At twelve o'clock on Christmasy, she deeptoed up the stairs. She stood beneath the missiletoe cone.

Her silken hair then sent to close slip down the flue and caught her runawares. And this is what she said. The Christmas do not touch me, Fa. The Christmas do not touch me. FA.

The Christmas do not touch me. She stood beneath the missal to. Only name is Father Christmas. He informed her as he met her. She said, good Greek.

Seven years since I said you a letter. He said, I can't stand little girls. Bigger ones are better. And they says what she said, Ah, the Christmas do not touch me, FA. The Christmas do not touch me.

FA. The Christmas do not touch me. She's don't winning the misslet for the Christmas do not touch Pa, the Christmas do not touch. Ah. The Christmas do not touch and.

She's done winning the mistlet for the Christmas do not Christmas

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