Episode 4: Under the Rainbow (1981)

Weird. Hello everyone, and welcome to Chasing Chevy Chase and a Chevy Podcast, the podcast where we talk about Chevy Chase and the movies that he's been in. That there's nothing that creative going on here, I mean other than the fact that I one of the hosts of this show, Christashi, and joined by my two close compatriots in this journey through the filmography of mister chevy Chase. One of the one of the hosts, the host of the Projection Booth podcast, mister Mike White. The pearl is in the river.

I knew it. Whoever got picked first was doing that line. Find another one, I could say, you dropped your diaphragm. That was number two. Okay, let me find another one one And also all the way from Cambridge and with Shawn and wake up Heavy your friend and mine.

He's ed Begley's father, Mark Bank. This looks like an aerial view of an unemployment line. And uh, because I'm sure you have no idea what we're quoting, because why would you. On this episode of the Chasing Chevy Chase and a Chevy Podcast, we're gonna be talking about nineteen eighty one's wildly problematic comedic film titled Under the Rainbow. So the film stars, like we've already kind of alluded to Chevy Chase.

It also starts Carrie Fisher, Eve Arden and the one, the only, the icon himself, mister Billy Party and uh the film is uh, well, it's it's based on the creation of the film The Wizard of Oz, and then it also draws inspiration from the plot of The Wizard of Oz. And then it also draws inspiration from the framing device of the Wizard of Oz. It's really inspired by the Wizard of Oz, maybe not in the way that you would expect. And it's all about a hotel in Los Angeles across the street from the MGM studio and the convergence of a of several groups of people at this hotel. Uh.

Yeah, that's that's a nice gonna be lots there's gonna be lots of mix ups in this. Yeah, it's a comedy of errors. Yes, my favorite, my favorite thing, So yeah, I will Uh this is one that I think the three of us were pretty excited to talk about because we brought it up several times as in like, are we gonna watch this? Is this something we're gonna watch, so, Mike, I'm gonna kick it to you first. What did you think of Under the Rainbow?

I used to watch this on cable a lot and that it was pretty funny because as I was watching it again for the show, I barely remembered anything from this movie. I just know that I saw it a ton. I mostly remember, and this says a lot about me. I mostly remember Carrie Fisher in her underwear. That was pretty much my biggest memory of it was her in the underwear.

And then maybe a little bit of the dog gag that we have going on through here, the dog named Strudel that keeps either being killed or suicided and the getting of a new dog. And apparently, and this doesn't really come through too well in the finished film, but Eve Arden as the Duchess, she can't see very well, so you can get any type of dog, or even just a muff with a collar on. And I think they cut the muff diver line, now that I think about it. They cut a lot of those lines. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it was great to revisit this one.

And yeah, just to see Makeo in here. I really like him and it reminded me of how much I liked Cork Hubert or Hubbert when he was around. Yeah, I was kind of oddly delighted going back and watching this movie, which I probably shouldn't be because by all intents and purposes, this is a very bad film. How about you, Mark. This was one of my first time watches.

I remember when the film came out and it was universally panned, and I was pretty heavy into Chevy Chase at that time and all things Saturday Night Live. So it probably was something that I wanted to see and then decided not to or I mean, I wasn't able to drive myself to the theater, but I probably just didn't push it on my mom or anything or anybody else to go see it. And I don't know how I would have taken it. I probably would have enjoyed it more back then as a kid than I did yesterday when I watched it for the first time. But it was interesting.

I was surprised that what eighty five percent of it takes place in the hotel. I wasn't expecting that. I thought there was going to be more antics on this set of quote unquote The Wizard of Oz and other I had no idea. It was like spies and Hitler and the Japanese invasion and all that stuff rolled into it, and how all these different factions merge on this one hotel on the same day and you know, mix ups ensue. So it was it was interesting, but this is probably not one that I'm going to go back to afterward.

I was getting a lot of nineteen forty one vibes from it, well, especially the whole Japanese invasion thing. I was going to bring that up because of the script and how that opening is changed drastically from what's in the script, and reading that part on the Japanese bode, I'm like, well, did they cease nineteen forty one and say no, we can't do this, it's kind of already been done. Or was it just to simplify the story because most of the rest of that stuff is tossed out as well, other than the opening with Hitler. Chris, what did you think of Under the Rainbow? Oh, I'm stack rock.

No, I was just going to I was going to pass it to Chris. Well, Mike, we can no longer be friends. I am so deeply offended that you enjoyed such a problematic film I mean the usage of the word Japs and nidgits. How dare they? No?

In all seriousness, I mean, this movie Sovie was made in a time and a place where these kinds of things were not only okay, but I think you know, they were expected. And then on top of everything else, it's a period piece. So again I'm not necessarily saying giving the movie a pass, but I understand what the movie's doing. I think the problem with the movie is, for the most part, it's not that it's you know, problematic or offensive. They said the weird Midget, It's just not funny for the most part.

And there's like a lot of this movie that's not funny. The fact that Chevy Chase in this movie. I why is Chevy Chase in this movie? Is my question? Like why is Carrie Fisher in this movie?

In a lot of ways, like they they are not utilized to the fullest of their abilities, and the people that are are fine, but the movie seems like a really like it's a bizarre idea. I was sharing that I was watching this movie with a friend of mine and they were like, what the fuck are you watching? And I was like, yeah, beats the shit. Out of me even and by the end of the I mean, the movie's framing device alone is so bizarre and so again like it's so on the nose, given way this is kind of talking about and the title alone is in reference to it's so on the nose that by the end of the movie, all I could think was, and that's what you're doing, Well, fuck you then, Like it's just it kind of sours any modicum of goodwill that the movie has established, and modicum is the word I would use, because this movie is an hour and a half, feels like two, and it barely lands any of its comedy other than a couple reoccurring gags.

But for the most part, like I was befuddled by this movie's existence because to me, the people that are in it at the time that they're in it, like what wow, good for you, I guess, but kind of feels like a little bit of a waste of Chevy chasing carry Fisher's time. That's what I'll say, just at the top, year is it a bad movie? Hey? Bad is so insanely subjective. I just don't think it's a very funny movie, which I think if we're talking about a movie that's billing itself as a comedy.

That is a problem if you're not able to actually elicit any response from the audience that's mildly meant to be you know, Oh that was humorous, So I'm gonna laugh like there was really none of that in this movie. It's unfortunate. The script was interesting. I was very surprised by the differences between the script and the movie, and I think we're going to be hitting on this quite a bit as we talk about this, because that framing device of Kansas nineteen thirty eight is not there. We do get the introduction of the pork Hubert Hubbert character.

He's part of that's more of a I would say Overville than it is. I was thinking shantytown, but yeah, they called it something else on the script, and we do get him eventually, but before we get to him, we have the introduction of that fireside chat that we see him listening to, and that's where we get introduction of the Chevy Chase character, Bruce Thorpe, and he's a secret Service agent and he's there with FDR. And it's very, very plain to me that they were thinking Chevy Chase when they wrote this script. Because he is constantly fumbling and tripping throughout the entire script. He is gripping over his own feet, or over curbs or these kind of things.

And in this he's trying to help FDR with the microphone and he screws up the microphone, like these kind of things. I'm just like, well, this is chevy Chase all over and it was so odd that I think every single one of those pratfalls were cut out of the final version of this film, which then leads me, or leads back to your question, Chris, why was chevy Chase in this? Because it could have been anybody. He is so whitebred in this movie, and they don't play on his charisma very much at all. They just don't really play on chevy Chase very much at all.

For all intents and purposes. When you read the script, this is Arry Fisher's movie. This is any clerk trying to wrangle all these things, and chevy Chase, his character Bruce Thorpe, is just another obstacle to get in the way. And I think that the planning on the Duke and the Duchess, it gets old pretty darn quick, especially just the Duke being afraid of everything all the time, and yes, that does pay off later in the movie, but it also doesn't pay off. I think they make one mention of Sirijevo.

It doesn't pay off that this is more of a historical movie in the script that he is the son of arc Duke Franz Ferdinand, and that Robert Donner's character is the son of and I apologize to my history teacher. I can't remember the name of the assassin that took out Franz Ferdinand, but he's that guy's son. So it's this historical conflict that we have entered into by having the duke and the duchess and then the assassin, and boy o, boy do they cut the assassins rolled down quite a bit as well, though I was laughing that it was Robert Donner playing at it Italian with a very thick accent, But yeah, it was Robert Donner, and I love Robert Donner. Chris. We just saw him recently being asked all about the weather reports and if it rained last Tuesday on that episode of Colombo.

I think he was in one of my favorites, any old port in a storm. I just saw him on an episode of six Million dollar Rn playing nice Sattie. So yeah, I was like, oh him again. But he'll never be anything for me other than exitd or from this more him mendy h. He's so good every time he shows up.

That's all I think of. That was a perfect role for that guy, and the other changes that they make that you've already alluded to with the Duchess's eyesight, because I'm reading. I read that script real quickly, pretty much right after I watched the movie, and I'm like, did they mention the eyesight in there as to why she doesn't know it's a different dog or not? I can't remember now. It's really brief, and I think it's just that the very first there's time we see her, she says like, oh, you know, who is your friend or something like that, like she doesn't know who they are, rather than she can't see them.

And then when she mistakes all the little people for children children right, But does someone explicitly say her eyes are bad? Does the Duke say that? I don't think he does. She asks, no, there's none of that in the movie. She asks Chevy, is that your dog?

And he's like, no, it's yours. So all the indication is that she can't see, but in the script, the Duke says she can't see and she won't wear glasses because she's vain. And then, like we already mentioned the Japanese opening being cut, and then this stuff with FDR is really just the fireside chat at the beginning. He's supposed to be in the finale where that's part of why we've got all of the little people for the munchkins there to a parade and wave to FDR as he's driving by, and that's how the script ends. And all that's gone when we're introduced to like you said, to Toho himself and Naka Murray who's played by Miko and this and that's also we get I mean, yeah again, it's so similar to stuff we've already seen, a whole tank full of pirana and that he's feeding his pirana, and he's also got a parrot there and at one point Naka Murray takes a photograph of the parrot and that's what shows off and introduces the gun camera that can murder anything that he takes a picture of, basically, which of course comes back later in the film, but we don't know that we don't know that he's holding a gun in his camera the entire time.

So when he shows up and there's all of the Japanese tourists, we also don't know who he is. He shows up late to the movie. You're just like, oh, who is this new Japanese guy? Because it should have just been it should have been a lot more funny that he shows up dress exactly the same as all of these other Japanese men and talk about just an out overplayed cliche that you're Japanese tourists really like to take photographs. So it's all of these what is it, Chris the the Japanese Amateur Photography Society, Right Photographic Society.

Yeah, oh, the acronym catch the acronym there people without us having to say it. Wait, are you telling me stuff? It's not you're telling me it has it aged well? And you thought murder murdered by death was bad. They set up all of these things before we get to the hotel itself.

Yeah, we've got Hitler and little Auto played by uh uh uh Billy. Yeah, the whole thing too. Of when we've got the Hitler scene, they make a big deal about one of the guys that is there having only one arm, And I noticed that they actually have the guy there with one arm, but they don't do anything with it. It's like, what, why is this? Why is this guy even here?

I was waiting for the Harold and Maud salute from him, right, See, I get that now. I just saw that movie for the first time. I finally get the little Harold and Maud salute thing. We just I just watched it with my kid the other night. Nice.

We had just pivot and talk about that for an hour. Yeah, I heard that so much better, so much better. Well, that's the thing. I mean. In a lot of ways, this movie has a lot of potential just on the face of it.

Chevy Chase and Carrie Fisher, right, Like, we've seen Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn already twice and they were fantastic together, Like they were the centerpiece of the movies that they were in. And in foul Play's case, like that was Goldie Hawn's movie and Chevy Chase was just a part of it. And this could have been similar. I mean to both of your points, like the idea that the script is the Carrie Fisher character, and like the and I think the lot of ways the movie itself also is because I think there's two stories kind of vying for control of the movie's attention. I think that, like I just I have a hard time understanding how they bungled it this badly when they have two people that are so charismatic on screen and whenever they're on screen together, I mean, especially there's a moment later in the film where they're locked in a freezer together.

It is so not off putting, but like it doesn't land the way that they want it to at all, And it's like, man, you guys really fucked this up because Chevy Chase and carry Fisher, we know, are our known quantities and are good at what they do, so it's not them, and like that's the I think that's the thing, Like, you know, with the conversation around like talking about movies and stuff is really being cognizant of how many steps also go into a failure. And this is you know, it took a lot to get to the point where this is the version of the movie on screen that we're getting with these to people, and it is wildly unfunny and they are wildly like uncharismatic, and they have zero chemistry when they're on screen together, like really none.

It's surprising because again they're a front and center on the poster through all the advertisement, They're all over it, and like they are not only really not great together on screen, but neither one of them are really in this enough to I think validate the amount of like usage that they have in the advertising for the movie, like it really is the it really is the the little people characters movie, it really is, and the and the Duchess and Dutch character, like you know, the Duke, like it's their movie kind of feels like more than anybody else's, which is my least favorite part of the films in that hole because that's where a lot of those mix ups come around. With Digello I think is Robert Donner's character's name trying to kill him and those poor Japanese guys they all get off.

That was kind of mean spirited to me in a way for a lighthearted romp. Just as the Elevator, Well, the guy that plays is Kedo, the one who ends up getting the script from Carry Fisher. I mean, he's a great guy. He's so nice, and I'm like, oh, well, he would actually be a really good romantic partner for Carrie Fisher's character, the way that he takes an interest in her job, and he's just like, oh, this is gonna be a great film, and just seems like the nicest guy. And yeah, when he gets off, it's like he ends up with his face and a plate full of guacamole, and it's like, oh, this is so disrespectful to this guy, and he and all of these other Japanese tourists end up start lining up the in that meat locker you know, you got tiny played by one of the film's writers, Pat McCormick, taking this guy inside of the taking these guys in the meat locker and just leaving him hanging there.

Because of course there's this whole thing of the boss is gone, and so the hotel is being run by the boss's nephew, I believe, who's played by Adam Rkin, a very young Adam Markin. I forgot when he started in acting because I just remembered him more from like northern exposure type of stuff. I forgot about all the pre northern exposure roles that he had. I thought he was really good in this, and he does a good job. It does basically his dad's type thing of being this like put upon person and he gets really upset about things.

I've always liked Adam Arkin quite a bit, and this doesn't do anything to disuade me from liking him. I mean, he's playing playing the kind of character I would expect it Adam Markin to play in this movie, right like that. Yeah, yeah, he's great. And that's the thing, like we know, you know, all the actors in this movie are fantastic and pretty much everything else we've seen them in. It's just what what the writers have done is really I think, don't I don't understand what they were thinking with some of this stuff, because it's just it's too much going on at once, and like these kinds of comedies, I'm not saying they don't make them very much anymore, but they don't, like they don't make movies like this anymore that are just like high concept and also just like all over the place constantly, like there's so much going on, it kind of wraps its.

It kind of wraps itself in loops after a while, like okay, and then oh but then, by the way, this isn't actually all happening at all, and it's like, Wow, movie good God, like taken the final step here at the end. It honestly, it's one of these movies that feels like it thinks it's cleverer than it actually is. You mentioned I think in our message thread about how it seems like jokes are unfinished, and I believe a lot of it has to do with toning down the raunchy humor of the script because there are a lot more double entendres and racy comments. It's not I don't know if they were afraid they were gonna get an R or something or what, but it's pretty tame. There's no what like two swear words in the movie maybe and one of those is in in the script because it's at the end of the film with a different ending.

But there's a lot more of that talk between Carrie Fisher and Chemmy Chase, where it's you know, what's going on? What is that your gun? Things like, I mean, that's in the movie, but there's other comments like that between them that are gone. And then the Munchkins. The actors that are going to play the Munchkins are way naughtier in the script, and that the bringing the prostitute there the sex worker to the hotel.

It's more straightforward in the script where we know that's what's happening, But in the movie it's like they excised some of that and there's just a shot of one of them walking out of the room and saying the line, and so it's sort of out of context now, like what's going on in that room and all the stuff with Tiny in the script where the girls are after him constantly because he's this big, huge guy and they strap him down to the floor a llah what do they say, travels and had their way with him. Yeah, that's completely gone. They Zelda Rubinstein confronts him on the staircase there and that that's about it. And so a lot, a lot is going on, but there are so many missing pieces that it's even more fractured, I think than it would have been with that stuff in there.

Well, there is way too much going on though, it's like I can't keep up with Yeah, it's very very screwball comedy, right, but yeah, you really rob it of a lot of stuff by removing the setups or the punchlines. You know, I don't know if it was the editor, if it was the director. Steve Rash, who at this point had directed The Buddy Holly Story in seventy eight, which was, from what I remember, a pretty big hit and so even earned an Oscar nomin a for Gary Busey. He did a fantastic job of doing Buddy Holly himself. And then he also directed Rich Hall's Vanishing America in nineteen eighty six, which I really like that a lot, but I think that was mostly because I like Rich Hall a lot.

But yeah, this one, I'm like, what were you doing? Why were you outing these things? Like to cut out so much of Annie's introduction where you've got her on the MGM lot and it was probably expensive. But they do get back to the lot later ron which again reminds me of Pewee's Big Adventure where he's terrorizing the lot, and it should have been a lot more of that. But like her interacting with Clark Gable, the fact that that guy who we see her talking to, that that's Louis b.

Mayer, and we kind of figured that out later on when she says Louie, Louie Louis, and that guy could have been named Louie whatever, Louis Armstrong, whatever, but it's not This is Louis B. Mayer asking for a favor, and this is going to get you, you know, the next thing, you know, move you up in the world type of thing. The fact that we're shooting Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz and all of these other films, they're just they're not paying attention to that stuff. They're not setting it up that this is a big Hollywood story and that we're getting ready to shoot this massive film Wizard of Oz, and we don't get Burt Lar, we don't get any of these other people that are supposed to be there. She passes by at one point, Laurel and Hardy.

She says, that mean the Merciless needs a helmet. It's just all of these things, like we eventually where it's like, well, I guess that's Esther Williams, but we don't know's. It's really tough. If you hadn't read the script or are pretty knowledgeable about what was going on at that time in the movies, you wouldn't get the pool scene at the end that exactly introduced earlier in the script, like you say, and all that. Yeah, I had no concept that that was supposed to be Louis b.

Mayer. Until I read the script, I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, does he even look like that? I don't know. You get the card table thing, you get the you get the Scarlett o'hra thing because they put a pin on it at the end. But oh, and it seems weird to me that some of this specific Wizard of Oz things in the script or dropped as well.

And I don't know if that's part of that. You can't say this because they mentioned the yellow Brick road a number of times, but they never say Toto for the dog. They just say are the dog auditions supposed to Yeah, And in the script it's like, are the Toto auditions supposed to be? You know, Homer asks what brings all the dogs into the hotel? And I'm like, was that a rights thing or some of these other cuts rights things as well, or just uh, let's kind of dumb it down for the audience or I don't know.

It seemed odd though, that there were a lot more specific nods to the Wizard of Oz in the script. I mean, you've got Emerald City in the movie, but it's almost like, you know, we're recording this on Super Bowl Sunday, but it's almost like all of the references to the Big Game, you know, because you have to pay to use the word super Bowl and they have to be approved by whoever to use the term super Bowl. So it feels very much like that, Like we're making a movie about things that happen over a rainbow with Kansas and there's a dog and there's a you know, a lion, and it's you know, just like nudge, nudge, nudge, like Okay, yeah, you're putting your elbow right through my ribs here, like please stop.

I get it. But at the same time, I don't get it. And the other thing that I think really is a shame about this movie is that, you know, I said screwball comedy, it's not screwball enough. Like they say that there were one hundred and fifty little people that worked on this movie, and I only really could tell you maybe a thirty of them. Like it looks like they're about thirty people, is what I'm trying to say.

It doesn't look like you have one hundred and fifty little people. It does not feel like this is a mass because really, towards the end, when they go back to the movie studio, it should feel like an invasion of all of these little people, and the hotel should feel like an invasion of all these little people. But there are certain times where it's like, oh, well, there's a couple guys here, there's a couple of people over here, there's a woman and a man over here, But like, it doesn't feel like this mass of humanity, and that's what we should really get, Like you get that you mentioned the line about, you know, the aerial view of an unemployment line, Like, okay, yeah, we have quite a few there, but it still doesn't feel like just a mass of people.

And I don't know if that's because of the way that it was shot or that we didn't have enough extras, that we just didn't have enough little people in these shots, but it just doesn't feel as chaotic, Like this movie should be chaos and debauchery, but it's not. And it's weird that it's based it's a movie based on a urban legend basically of their bodiness at this hotel that has been pretty much denied by everybody on the movie. I wondered too about the there's a scene when they get to the movie theater, to the movie studio and somebody accidentally triggers a gallows and somebody hangs and I'm like, okay, well, first off, they just murdered that person. Funny stuff. But then I'm also like, is this a reference to there were those rumors for years and years like, oh yeah, in the background, you can see there's a little person.

They hung themselves. They were so destraught about working on the movie that they hang themselves, and there you can see him in the background, hanging from one of the trees. I'm like, well, that would have been interesting because there's even like a book I think I can't as Stuart Kaminsky. I think I wrote it called Murder on the Yellow Brick Road, and it's all about that, you know, rumor of somebody being murdered behind the scenes on a Wizard of Oz. I had heard about that, and that's what I assumed that was in reference to, right, Like, well, what else?

Yeah, I think in the script they mentioned a specific Western so I kind of went, you know, post watching the movie, my mind just went back to that. But that's another thing that's missing, is that Chevy Chase riding on the Horse of Many Colors. Oh right, yeah, that's gone. I mean he doesn't even chase them, Rollo does exactly well. And that's the other thing, like the Wizard of you mentioned Mike, like the Wizard of ozness of the movie, and again like they end up.

I feel like where the Wizard of ozness of the movie ends up really exhibiting. I guess I'm kind of revealing its hand at the end of the movie. It makes itself very obvious what the actual Wizard of Oz like point of references with the framing device of the movie. But yeah, it's like, what a wasted opportunity you have here, Like the end of this movie should have been a bigger version of what happens at the end of Blazing Saddles, Like that's what I was expecting, like and and it's kind of that, but not It's it's like that if you watch Blazing Saddles and said, how can we do this but not really put in the effort, like not really like you said, make it as kind of over the top and as crazy ass again, like as the movie wants to be, because as a as a slapstick screwball comedy, the end of the movie needs to be like the end of What's Up, Doc, where it's like this big thing through wherever, and like this movie has has the notion of that, it understands that it's it starts the process of getting there with that, but it never I don't think it executes it's it's hand the way it wants to, because again I don't think ultimately.

I think it's ultimately about something else. And it feels like three different stories trying to get attention, and the movie ends on the story that is the least interesting of all three, which is the story that ends up being the main story of the movie, and that's like the least exciting one of all three. Well, he's not. He has his moments in the middle chunk of the film, but other than the opening and the ending, excuse me, it's not really his movie. He helps Carrie Fisher a couple of times get out of her issues with Billy Bardi and that, and I mean, should we just get out there what the ending is for all the people that are really disappointed that we might spoil this movie for them, as opposed to the FDR parade, which doesn't read that interesting in the script either.

Actually it they do. They pull the Wizard of Oz ending where this is all Rollo's dream and like you, Mike, I thought, Oh, we're doing this, or whichever one of you said that. But it was a cheat because we didn't see all those people in that Shanning town before. Chevy Chase's voice at the beginning of the movie. Was he the postal worker?

That's the only thing I could think of, right, because they obscured the Yeah, I think your employee's face. I heard his voice and I was like, that's chevy Chase's voice. And that's when I realized, like, is something going on here? But like, I heard chevy Chase's voice at the beginning of a movie, and I was like, that's weird. It's like Harrison Ford and et for no reason.

Yeah, or was he somebody shouts got gun it? Somebody shouts off screen to him at some point like be careful, half pint. So it was either him, because I didn't bother to go back and watch the beginning, but I had that thought. I'm like, I think he's the postal worker or somebody else there. But we don't see the Duke and Duchess.

We don't see Robert Donner, we don't see carry Fisher there, we don't see tiny none of the I mean, unless they're I guess I should go back and watch and see if their backs are turned or if there's people that they could be back turned. Yeah, Like I was rewatching it a little while ago, and like you can see there's a couple of people that sit down in front of the radio and their backs are to us, and I'm like, okay, okay, that's Duke and I'm not sure who this other person is. So yeah, it does very much feel like a cheat though, because well, yeah, the abs, they're not hidden in makeup like they are on a Wizard of Oz. It maybe catch that that's Bert Law and the other guys and all that, right, but you would know it was Chevy Chase.

Like that's the problem. That's why they obscure it's Chevy Chase, because they're not going to be in makeup. Well they they It's much more of the shijoke of fistful of Vienne from Kentucky Fried movie, where suddenly our main character is uh, you know, waking up and he's in drag and you have all those and then you have the amazing what's uh the doctor's name, the bad guy when he uh he pulls out he still has the fake arm thing, you know, that is hilarious the way that they do this. There's no comedy to it. It's just a frame device that was not earned whatsoever.

Yeah, I thought a lot about about the end of that of Kentucky Fried Movies, A fist full of yen, and like I thought about that because that was the last time that we had seen it, and like, how strange, because it really does work there, like and it's mind for some like that for me is probably the funniest part of that whole thing, Like because again I didn't resonate with it as much as y'all did, But like I loved that they used that there because it was funny there. Here it's just to what end? Why? Like like why what? What is what comedic?

Anything is being mined here? I failed to see what the point is other than the fact that like, well, the movie within the movie is about the Wizard of Oz, but like that's just somebody's dream, is what we end up finding out. So like it's I don't I don't understand it. It's very lazy to me, is what it feels like. It feels like they wrote themselves into a corner and then just said, we don't know what to do with this.

Always there of us, there's an old dream like, Yeah, I think they simplified stuff a little too much to get to that ending. Yeah, then that's why all that other stuff is gone. But the thing it reminded me of, which I sometimes feels a little bit of a cheat, is Jacob's Ladder and how the one of the major complaints of that film is that it's it's a future for him that doesn't make sense because he wouldn't know these specific songs had been made since he's dying before they were ever created, which is, you know, whatever, neither here nor there. But why would you dream about the making of the Wizard of Oz when you have no idea what that thing is? But it's a real thing that exists, So I mean, unless he read the L.

Frank Baum book. But yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense. And the book is very different from the movie as well. Yeah, even when it comes to so this movie is set in nineteen thirty eight, we're talking about Nazis, we're talking about Japanese people, and you know we mentioned in nineteen forty one already the whole mcguffin of this is this map that is they were saying it was an invasion map of the United States. I want to say, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Mark, but I want to say, it's about Pearl Harbor.

Yeah in script, in the script right, which makes a lot more sense. The Pearl Harbor is still three years away at this point, but at least this is like, oh, they have foiled this plot in nineteen thirty eight, they'll use the exact same plot in a few years and actually be successful about it in nineteen forty one. So I don't know how that works, but somehow that's what happens, And like, yeah, they should have it should have been something more to that, because it really those stakes are so low that you don't even care about them at all. You just know, we shouldn't like Japanese people, we shouldn't like German people because of what's going on, and you know, just it just kind of fizzles out, just kind of like what I'm talking about.

That was funnier than the whole movie. Thanks. Thanks. The Pearl is in Zi River another nice little I gotta get the you know, Christmas story, can't say our els there. I love it, but what's weird about that is then he actually finds the real guy like two minutes later, So what was the point of that?

And then of course, like you mentioned that poor a Kido gets killed anyway, for I guess, no good deed goes unpunished. But yeah, along with the photography and all that other stuff, that was just another and the dog dying multiple times, the dog making the poison, you know what, it would have been funny. What would have been very funny with the dog they again, it's written better than it's directed. The whole thing of Bruce when he's trying to eat and the dog keeps sparking at him whenever he tries to take a bite of anything. It would have been funny had that been Benji on the other side of the table bark at him.

Anything would have been funnier than what we got, right, Yeah, that's true. And that's the thing, Like, this is the first time I think we've watched something, the three of us for this show that's like unfunny, Like everything else has been like, oh, you know, seems like Old Times maybe wasn't as good as Foul Play, but seems like Old Time still had its moments like this is like a date I would say, a deeply unfunny movie like Oh Heavenly I think Oh Heavenly Dog was better than this, Like, and I don't think Oh Heavenly Dog is much better than this. I think Oh Heavenly Dog has its own like problems that we we we addressed ad nauseum on that episode. But I think at least there were moments where there was some comedy, even if it was unintentional.

Here it just feels like almost all the jokes are happening off screen, and then we're coming back when they're like transitioning in between the jokes, Like, I don't know when this movie is supposed to be funny, it really you know, you mentioned nineteen forty one, and I know that you and I might be in the minority in terms of I took that movie. I know well Mark, Mark, Mark loves it. Mike, You and I think might be in the minority of the band we know. Oh, I don't think you're in the minority. I mean, I mean, I know several people.

I know more people that like it than don't. But I know that like in the grand majority of people. Yeah, it's not like you know widely considered to be a maze. It holds up. Watched it sometime in the last two years, and it held up held up for me.

Man, I don't know if I'd rather watch this or that, but I will say that I watched that one hundred times before I watch this again. Both of these are nineteen forty one. I'm gonna go to bat for it, so that's fair. I just think both of these movies are deeply unfunny. At least this movie is not two hours.

Hey man, you gotta have the Tim Athison and Nancy Allen's story in nineteen forty one. Oh, it's key. It is key, just like the Eddie Deason stuff too. Yeah, yeah, just gotta be there. Otherwise the movie's not as good.

That's the only stuff I wouldn't mind missing. But I do love the carousel going off the pier. I think that's some great miniature work. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say that stays in my version. I mean, yeah, but that but like that is the thing, like in terms of the movies that I would compare this to nineteen forty one is a apt comparison, And I think this movie is as unfunny as that movie is, and I think in a lot of ways it feels like a perfect like like a perfect companion piece, like a double feature, a diabolical double feature under the Rainbow in nineteen forty one, Like, who's itching for that double feature?

Not this? You're gonna You're gonna definitely get a lot more out of nineteen forty one, though, even just the miniature work, the miniature work, the direction, I mean, it's still Spielberg. It's a better night in nineteen forty one is a better movie. It's just a longer movie. Williams in there getting eg on his uniform.

I mean, come on, who doesn't love that? Oh? The general frying as he's watching them dumb? Yeah, the whole black face white face thing with John King, right, and yeah, yeah, Mickey Rourke is in that movie, and who isn't it for hot second? And who doesn't love Mickey Rourke really?

And of course don't forget John Belushi just kind of being there. Yeah he he says fresno in that movie. I remember leaping out of my seat when I saw that at ten years old. Blue she said, Fresnoe. Mike.

Sometimes we can commiserate on things, and sometimes we can't, but I'm glad. One of those things that we commiserate on is nineteen forty Yeah, that in Transylvania six five thousand, right. I haven't seen nineteen forty one since they put out that longer once it a LaserDisc version of it, and I was like, Okay, I'm going to watch this, and it's going to show me that there was a masterpiece here that was ruined by the studios, and this is going to show me just how funny this movie was. No, I can't imagine a longer cut working. Have you ever seen the longer cut it goes?

I may have years ago. It's another half an hour longer. It is, maybe not, though, maybe not. I may just be thinking of the TV edit. Oh see, now it's I like the movie, but I'm not willing to watch an hour longer version.

How much do you really like nineteen forty one? I just can't imagine that. Yeah, longer version would be better, and I can't imagine the two hour version is good to begin with, to be beare, But I think I think though in terms of like the success of the storytelling, I think to your point, now, I think the scope of nineteen forty one is more interesting, and I think that this movie's trying to have that scope. I mean, again, we have Hitler like two seconds in to the quote dream sequence of the movie unquote, but I mean Hitler exists through the character of Billy Barty, and like that's not I mean, like you know, all jokes aside about his size, like the scale of that character, Like it doesn't feel like you guys were mentioning about the map, Like it just doesn't feel like that big of a threat.

So I don't know, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of steaks with the movie for the most part, but like nineteen forty one has those steaks, so at least you kind of have some steaks to it. I don't know. And that's the other thing about this movie. Like the best thing about this movie we haven't really even talked about him is Billy Barty. Like he's the best part of the movie, Like, without a doubt, he's just like he's fucking going for it, and like good for him.

I kind of wish the movie had just been all about his like weird Nazi midget character, Like it's such a fucking strange thing. And like the way he looks is so strange, and he's got the Hitler mustache and the monocle. It's like, this is such a strange thing. I'm totally into it. Though.

It's so funny because I mean, the the Nazis actively were killing little people in World War Two. I mean, there's a great documentary out there. I think it's called The Seven Little People of Auschwitz or something like that. There might be seven Dwars of Auschwitz. I want to say.

Peter Dinklic is the narrator of it. And it's all about these little people that were living in Auschwitz and like trying to survive and trying to stay there longer so that they weren't put into the gas chambers. And it's just it's kind of an awful thing when you think, like, oh no, no, Hitler would have totally been murdering Billy Barklay partie rather than being like, oh, he is one of our best spies. He is the invisible man. No one can see him.

He's so great and yeah, and then he gets hitting the balls by a Hitler salute. I mean, hey, you know what, instead of watching the super Bowl today, when I go over to my friend's house to watch it. I'm gonna suggest be put on the Auschwitz Dwarf documentary instead and we all have I watch it, Yes, I have. Hey, everybody, instead of the super well, let's watch the documentary about the Dwarfs of Ashwitz. Does that sound like fun to everybody else?

I mean, it is ironic. I wish the movie would have acknowledged that fact. But you know again, I think just giving Billy Party a little Hitler mustache is a lot funny, especially when he is doing that with the Lollipop Guild outfit as well. Yeah, those parts of the movie are funny, like but like that's it. Like Billy Barty is the best part of them.

Anytime he's on screen, the movie picks up for a moment because they're just like, hey, Billy Barty, go for it, Like you're getting an opportunity to do a thing. And you're again like you're the villain of the movie. You're ostensibly like third or fourth build in the movie, like go for one of the leads. Yeah, and he does. Like he's the best part of the movie because he's going for it.

And you know, I know that, you know, if you do some research about the movie, you'll find that Chevy Chase supposedly was all sad because Kenny passed away, which you know what, now, this is what second movie that we're having Chevy Chase, for whatever reason phoning it in. I mean, wasn't o heavenly dog him phoning it into but literally, yeah, put the phone up to the mic, right, I am a dog. Yeah yeah, But like if that was what was going on, cool, But I don't think Chevy Chase phoning it in really is the problem with this movie. It is the writing and it is their Yeah, there's one distinct Chevy ad lib and it's the second line that Mike quoted at the beginning, you dropped your diaphragm, right, because in the script he doesn't say anything.

He says, you dropped your dot dot dot, and you know it's obviously not a diaphragm. It's a compact. But that's that feels. And the no no rape, you know, no no rape, no rape, I'm not raping you seem like the only thing that he added to the script really, unlike Caddy Shack, unlike seems like old times. Everything else moving forward like a lot.

Once he becomes Chevy Chase, Chevy Chase guy with nobody else needed. He will start doing that all the time. And I will honestly say, I kind of missed that and the pratfalls. I was waiting for the pratfalls the Holy Being, like Mike said, they're in the script. Maybe he was trying to get out of that.

Yeah, maybe I broke his hip or something. It's just it's odd because I don't particularly care for that most of the time. But I kind of missed it in this I'll see. We talked about it last time, and I think we were of the same mindset that nobody enjoyed it. Yeah, it when it's so obviously fake and goufage, look at a fell in the bush.

Oh I fell in the bank. Oh no, yeah, yeah, it has to be more organic, you know, is right right? He was doing that and things like like foul play. But he by the time we get to it seems like old times. It's like, okay, yeah, seems like old hat here, guys, let's give it something else, just so that the uh we we don't get too many tweets about this was actually Warwick Davis, who narrated the Seven Dwars of Auschwitz from twenty thirteen as opposed to there was a fictional film about the Seven Dwars of Auschwitz.

So but yeah, I forgot, so I can watch both of them. I forgot. I forgot that doctor Mengela was at Auschwitz and liked to experiment on these people. They were the owitz Owicz family. They were a musical act, and then they became victims of doctor Mengela.

Soy times, yes, so that that's what was going on with little people in World War two. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. The other thing that I found interesting, too was this whole thing of I'm sorry, we're just gonna leave it on. Doctor Mangela killed short people. And but the funny parts of the movie, Now, well I was gonna say that.

Also, it's very interesting the part where quirky uh, where Rollo meets up with all of the other little people, and that had me wondering, when you were a little person in nineteen thirty eight, how are you aware of there being other little people? Obviously this is maybe there were like newsletters or newspapers for little people, but it was just like how odd would have been like picture yourself as a little person, you know, in that shanty town in that that Hooverville or whatever, and you've lived your life for all this time, how awhere are you of other little people that are around? Because it is just such a small fraction of the population, it must be mind blowing when you run into another little person much less and this is kind of where the crux of the whole movie is much less hundreds of little people, and then you're suddenly like, no, wonder there's debauchery and stuff because it's like, finally I found people my own size, and we can party together, we can fuck, we can do whatever we want.

We're all on equal footing. Now we're not in this big person world. You know. I kind of like that idea. That's like that, and that's what it should have been, and like that's where the concept of the movie should have come from, not like trying to integrate it into something else, like trying to make it part of another story that should have been the main story that they're telling, like the stuff with Chevy Chase and Eve Arden, Like that gets in the way of telling that story, which is the more interesting story.

Because yeah, the idea of like, oh, these people now have a like even if it is just temporary, they have this like moment in time together where they can do whatever the fuck they want, Like there is something to be said for that, and like you said, Mike, like there's a lot that could have been mined there and a lot of fun and interesting directions that it could have gone, and instead it's just like there's within the hotel, there are three separate movies going on. Ostensibly, there's a spy movie, there's a weird assassination mad cap movie, and then there's the Little People movie. And Carrie Fisher is in the Little People movie, which is why if this movie were more about them, it would just be more her movie, because she is the one who's actually tasked with making their lives easier while they're there for the Wizard of Odds, it would have been more.

I always assumed that's what the movie was about. I had no concept that looking at the poster or seeing that you know through the years that chevy Chase is a secret service agent tasked with protecting a duke and duchess. I just assumed that he was another studio exach or maybe even studio security or whatever. I just assume it was all about that rumor of them being wild and crazy during the filming of that. Have them be wild and crazy on the set.

Have them be wild and crazy. I mean the sets right across the street, the lot, the studio a lot, right, So why not have stuff of them actually shooting the movie. They probably couldn't do that, but yeah, the other stuff in there threw me for a loop. When I was watching it yesterday, I had some indication because I know, we re looked at the script briefly during one of our other recordings, and I'm like, oh, what's all this there? Hitler and the and the Japanese are in this too.

Oh it's you know, but Chevy going to the Queen Mary to pick up a duke and duchess. I'm like, where is this? How does this all lead to the same spot them all on the hotel which is supposed to be a fancy hotel according to the script, but it kind of like a rundown hotel. Me totally looks run down. Yeah, and that whole thing like we don't get enough Adam Arkin to know that he's losing his shit.

It. I kind of like the one of the scenes that isn't mucked around. What too much from the script to the movie is when Karry Fisher's character is saying like, hey, listen, all this stuff is going on, and I'm having all these problems, and she just rattles off all this stuff, and then she talks with she's talking with Chevy Chase and he's like okay, and they just kind of go off on their own thing. And then an American's character comes in, Henry, and he's like, listen, I'm having all these problems. He basically says the same thing, and Chevy Chase says, oh, this is where I came in, and then leaves the room.

I was like, oh, well, that was kind of funny. These two characters are in the same problems and they're both rattling off all of these details. All right, that's pretty good, but yeah, it doesn't really work with the rest of this. He should have been much more him stuck on the chandelier. I thought it was a good thing for him to have happen because it also gets him out of the way a little bit.

But again, there's not that many little people around, like most of them have already left and have run over to the studio at that point. Well, that was a confusing part for me because she keeps saying, you need to get get to the studio, and it's like they're having dinner. They're going to go to the studio in the evening and get fitted, but they're not going to shoot until tomorrow. It just it really seemed and it matched up with the script pretty well. That seemed odd to me, Like we're sure horning this in because we've already established that this is about the Wizard of Oz.

So we've got to have them. I've got to be wrangling them and getting them to the studio. And then they then they come straight back in their costumes and continue to party. And why is one of them in a Is there a cowboy in the Wizard of Oz? Is there a cowboy Munchkin?

No? No, but was that guy's dressed up like a cowboy the whole time? Well, and well yeah, because that's the thing is like each one of these munchkins are supposed to have their own personality. So it's the right called Smokey who ends up being the mayor of munchkin Land, and they call him Smokey at one point, but he had a me in the script. It was like, oh, yeah, Smoky, he's doing this, He's doing that.

Yeah, like you've got the ventriloquist guy and the whole thing of like the Ventriloquist dummy actually seems to be aware of things, like the dummy can listen to conversations and then report those back to the ventriloquist, which is odd, but it might have played as funny. And then you're talking about the whole thing with the costumes, like, yeah, you get Billy Bardie and you get Rollo, both of them wearing the Lollipop Guild type costumes. You get Smokey wearing the mayor costume. And then what should have been a funny joke was for whatever reason, Tiny takes the second dead Japanese guy into a bar puts him on a stool. And that's also something that is missing, is that Tiny is a raging alcoholic and he's not supposed to be drinking this whole weekend, but yet we just constantly see him drinking, and he sets the guy down on the bar stool.

The frickin' mortician who says, you know, not only is she merely dead, but she really most is sincerely dead from the Wizard of Oz. He's the guy who says, I don't think he can help this guy at all. And I'm like, that's supposed to be funny. There's supposed to be a joke here. He is a mortician and he's supposed to be but they like cut to him so quick, and it really doesn't register who he is what he is.

I had no idea. That didn't register with me at all. Right, but that should have been a funny joke. Yeah, and they should have. He should have recited the line exactly, which which they probably couldn't do exactly for whatever reason.

And it's like, why are we having this revolve around the Wizard of Oz if you can't even use specifics other than the title, because that's also the title of the book, which is probably in the public domain. And yeah, that that missing stuff, I think is what really hampers the film. Those like what what was the point of that? And I think the dummy gets a little extra scene in the script as well, where he's in the window right of the sex dungeon that they have Tiny trapped in, right, and then Billy Bardi and Mako supposedly knock him off or something and he's committed suicide. The dummies committed suicide, And yeah, just weird, weird stuff left out, and the stuff that's left in they didn't reshape to have it make sense.

That's really I'm not going to say that had they filmed that script exactly as it was written, especially because this was a first draft, I believe from July of eighty if memory serves, had they shot that exactly the way it was, it would have been a funny film, okay, but it wouldn't have been a masterpiece, but it would have been way better than what we ended up with. Yeah, it would have connected some of the dots, and I think I would have actually appreciated a little bit more of the raunchy humor because it seems kind of castrated. When you watch and read that back to back, it's like, oh, there there. It felt like there was stuff missing, and now I'm seeing what it was that was missing because I expected.

I mean, they show a naked lady at the end, you see bush. I mean it's brief, but I'm were they scared of an R and that stuff got cut out or just not used at all? Or what why show women in a shower if you're going to cut out all the the lantana? Yeah, that was weird. The whole shower thing.

Yeah, I'm like, are we gonna get Are we going to get some early eighties PG unity here? Yep? Yeah, breasts on Bush. Yeah, you get the joke of a little person being under a woman's skirt, but you get that in the Gone with the Wind sequence, rather than the movie ending with one of the little people being under amy skirt and then a whole line of little people that goes around the street. And I guess it's all of the what is it?

All the people want to look up her skirt or something? Thing is That's what's going on. It's so strange. That's how the movie ends. In the script, Chris, there's no flash over to uh to Kansas.

It's like all of these people underneath any skirt. And then also, oh, I forgot that. There's a rainbow that shows up and Rallo and his girlfriend Lana, who is barely in the movie at all. She's one of the Lullaby League characters that they follow the rainbow and find a fucking pot of gold in a bunch of bushes, and Rollo ends the whole movie say well, I'll be a son of a bitch. Yeah, yeah, I mean, is another one that gets cut.

Yeah, she her part gets way reduced. It's not that big in the script, but still she has a lot more lines and a lot more to do. And I'm so disappointed that that wasn't the ending of the movie. I can tell you if the FDR stuff is gone, which is fine, I mean, yeah, that was a little bit of a bridge too far at times where it's like, oh, and all of this is coming together because of FDR coming to town. Okay, right, and there's assassination right yeah, yeah, then I am right.

And then that's how Mako and Billy Barty kill each other. Is it's the same kind of setup, but uh or no, it's not something one of them gets killed. I guess it's Billy Barty because he is there to assassinate FDRs and that whole plot line is gone. It's it's just the handoff of the map. But he gets killed at the end, right, in one of the same kind of mistaken ways.

Yeah, you get that nice moment of Mako and Robert Donner, Mako taking the photo which reveals that it's the killer camera, and then Donner at the same time shooting Mako, like because the duke ducks down and the two shoot each other. It's like, oh, okay, that was kind of effective. Yeah, and then the thing where chevy Chase's character is like, oh, this guy saved the duke even though he was there to murder the duke, Like Noah, good job, Chevy, yeah, real, real, good at your job there, And like had they had something about him either being good or bad at his job, and it seems like he would have been bad at his job based upon the prat falls and the spring up of the microphone, But as it is, we don't know if if he's good or bad.

He just seems to be there. And that's this whole thing in this movie is he seems there. And that's the shame about this movie. And you know, to go back to the idea about what this show ultimately is about, and it's about us talking about chevy Chase. He is, of all the people in the movie, like he's just lost in the shuffle like everybody else.

Like I wouldn't say he's more lost in the shuffle than anyone else, but he's as lost in the shuffle as everyone else is. And again I don't there's so little about the role that makes me think like, oh, it's Chevy. It had to be Chevy Chase, like Nope, not really, like it could have been anybody. And I wouldn't say that's the case for foul play or even seems like good Times. It seems like good Types, seems like old Times, or even Caddy Shack like those movies I think really benefit from it specifically being Chevy Chase, and this movie should have and it didn't, And that, for me is the biggest shame because again, given what this show is about, and given what the focus of our show is and the name is, this is barely a Chevy Chase movie, and his inclusion in the movie does not do much to spark any sort of joy while watching the movie.

Frankly, all it makes me think is why were you even involved? And believe you, Maria condoed Chevy Chase. I love that phrase. Yeah, it's a great phrase. I liked the Texas switch with Otis and the elevator crashing.

That was nice. I kind of like that the elevator operator's name is Otis, right. That a funny to me, as old timey guys know what that is in reference to any I just walked into an elevator and looked down. Well they should know hopefully. Yeah, that's where you don't want your phone or your keys to fall through.

Is where that little otis sign is. Yeah. I've had so many co workers where it's like it was almost like magic. It just got sucked through that. I keep my keys and my phone in my pockets.

It's a it's an irrational fear of mine that it's going to fall out of my hand and just slip right through that crack. That's an irrational fear of mine as well. Also, my phone is going to fall into one of those sewer drains. Yes, here, let me just walk over this thing where the thing that I have in my pocket is perfectly shaped to fall just right through. Yeah, we all text down here.

Yeah, maya telephone? Yeah, Jesus Hian, Chrissy, I want your telephone back's hand through the thing. Yeah, that's that's it for the telephone. That's funny, frizy you. That's twenty first century right there.

Instead of a quote he loses his cell phone. You can't watch TikTok on this judge. Yeah, pay the five dollars for insurance. He yeah, yeah, Now morel blacks for you. God, what's our next movie, and on the next episode of Chasing Jemmy, Chase and Chevy podcast, We're going to be taking a dtour a future d tours as a version of Mike White once said in a version of the show, you did not get to hear from nineteen ninety eight a film that is not really a Chevvy Chase vehicle, but he is in it for a little bit, and it's a it's a Bob Saggat directed Norm McDonald vehicle known as Dirty Work that I am excited to watch because it is a favorite comedy of mine.

And I mean, who doesn't love Norm McDonald, right? I mean, you know how many movies get to be a Norm McDonald vehicle, like one like this one? Ever seen it? Another one I've not seen, so I've never seen it either. I was getting this mixed up with Dirty Deeds?

Was he in that movie? He be Norm MacDonald, right, But there was a movie called Dirty D's from I think it was. Is that the Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen movie? No, that's Matt Work. Yeah, I want to say that that was from like the nineties, But I know there's one with Neil Vintimiglia that's also called that Wow.

Yeah, but no, I thought that there was one from I thought the nineties because I remember the trailer for it when I was working at Blockbuster. Oh yeah, I mean dirty. Dirty Work is a movie that I'm really excited for y'all to see. I'm not sure how well it's held up for people other than myself, who like saw it in a time where like these kinds of movies were acceptable and now it's like maybe not so much anymore, these kinds I mean, like even with Under the Rainbow. So I know that Dirty Work is a little bit of maybe a stretch for this show, but we're going to be talking about it anyways.

And yeah, if you don't like it, too bad. So until then, where can people find you and the things that you work on, mister Mark Bagley, Well, you can find me. You can find me on social media, all social media at wake Up Heavy, including the letterbox if you're interested in what I'm watching, And you can find my shows wake Up Heavy and Cambridge of mashaan Over on wordingwaymedia dot com or on my website Wakeupheavy dot com. How about you, Mike, Well, you can find me Yes. I'm also on a lot of social media's including Blue Sky and threads Sure why not and truth Social Mike Don't Forget and True Social.

Yes, I definitely I'm spitting a lot of truth bombs there. You can find all about how Taylor Swi is controlling the Super Bowl and that everything is has been set up this whole time based upon the color usage in NFL graphics to talk about the Super Bowl. Yeah, I've got all of those things. Yeah. You can hear me talk about yes, or you can hear me talk about movies over at Projection with podcast dot com where every week.

Yeah, I'm spitting truth over there as well, and giving you all the facts that about Taylor Swift's eras tour and all the hidden messages inside of that movie. How about you, Chris, You doing an episode on the Taylor Swift movie would be somehow at both at the at the same time, the worst and best thing I can think of at the moment. I have seen that movie and it is a three and a half hour concert movie. Damn. I mean, you know cool.

I've seen better concert movies, folks. And there's my five second take, and I don't ever have to do one, so you can find everything else that's not five seconds over at the culture Cast and various other things that are found at weirdingwaymedia dot com, including this show and a lot of other stuff, just a lot of things that I'm on or I produce or I work with other people on. So yeah, weirdingwaymedia dot com where we can go to find this show, all those shows and pretty much everything Mike in Ark just mentioned. So yeah, like rate and review the show wherever you get it, more than likely iTunes, and you know, share it to Chevy Chase. We'd love to hear what he thinks about what we think about his stuff, given that, you know, I seems like Chevy Chase is just still kicking it, which is cool, Like he's still just hanging out, enjoying himself.

I saw him on a podcast a while back, Like, you know, good for him, right, you know, he's he's soul live. I've barred, have crossed at this day and age, and yeah, we'll catch you on the next episode.