101: Graboids and Orange Goo

The following feature has been rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised. Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million. Kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.

Once again, I am Brian and this week I have. A special guest with me. Let me introduce you to Mr. Don Reese. Hello.

I asked Don to join me here today because, number one, he's a big movie fan, but in addition to that, you're also a comedian. So I guess give him a basic overview of how long have you been doing stand-up? Well, I don't know the day, but I do know the month. I started in, it was actually 2010. How many years is this?

27 years ago this month, I did my first open mic. Wow. And the business was really booming back then, so it was easy to kind of move into a full-time. Plus, I got bounced off my day job, which I think kind of expedited things. So in November of 85, I went full-time.

So 25 years next month, I'm making my living. As a comic. That puts a fire under your wing. Yeah. Suddenly, I have to come up with money.

Oh, God. But, yeah, that's quite an ordeal. And, yeah, it's changed a lot. And several times, it seems. You know, 80s was a very different business.

The 90s took a dive, kind of. Yeah. It's come back around, but it's a very different form than it ever was in the 80s. Yeah, it's a different animal these days. Yeah.

But I'm still shocked they managed to survive this long. I think it's because I have absolutely no other options. I don't know. I'm just totally unemployable outside of this now. A few years ago, I had some problems, and I thought, you know what, I'm home.

I'll try and get some temp work. I just found just absolutely how unnecessary I am. I just, can you do, no, no, you're a big guy. Yeah, I've got a bad back. I can't lift.

Okay, no. It was just pathetic. It's like, here's $ 10. Let's pretend we had this conversation. Let me back out of here slowly, please.

What was your last normal job? The last job I had was I worked in radio. I wasn't on air. I wrote commercials. And, uh, I, when I was in radio, I always got along with anybody in the creative end, the on air guys.

I love any kind of suit. We just did. I just, I'm the worst guy to have in an office environment. I just don't, I do not fit. Plus I had a bad habit of, uh, Well, you know, a salesman would come in with like a client's order and he'd write a commercial.

I had a bad habit. If I had any extra time at all, I would write a fake commercial, which I usually show them first. And then they go, okay, where's the real one? This guy came in in a hurry. And we had our first, I live in Sioux City, Iowa.

And we had our first tattoo parlor open there. It was called Skin Art Tattoo. And the commercial was, it was around the holiday season. It was gift certificates for tattoos. So I wrote a great commercial, which actually, I think, I get mixed up.

Someday I did one in a war. I can't remember if that was the one or not, but. The one I wrote says, this year you have the gift of permanent disfigurement. And the salesman's in a hurry, so he just grabs us. He's running down the hallway.

I'm like, before I can say, wait a minute. Thank God I just heard this. I can't show him this from down the hallway. Come back. Come back.

Here's the real one. Relax. Come in off the ledge. At least, you know, tattoo artists and owners of those places have a good sense of humor about that sort of thing. That would be one of the easier ones to break in a comedy one.

Yeah, suits in a normal business, you'd really be in trouble. Wow. So let's see, I guess, where did your interest in comedy first start? You know, it's strange. It's kind of like comedy and monster movies.

It's just one of these things I always liked, and I can't really tie it. I just loved it. you know, both when I was a kid. And, you know, and I just remember always liking to watch stand-up comedians. TV shows, it was almost always. My dad, you know, worked several jobs, so. my mom, but Billy Graham wasn't on.

We pretty much watched where we wanted to. Not that we had to really censor back then. Everything was pretty safe. Yeah, pretty much. But I always gravitated.

I always wanted to watch either comedies or, you know, there wasn't really much horror, but there were science fiction shows. But again, that's what I liked watching. So I always did and I always thought, well, this would be a cool job. I never, for years, I never really realized that the work that went into being a stand-up, I thought these guys went on stage and just riffed off the top of their head and realized that they actually crafted these routines. It wasn't until I read, I mean, at this point, I'd been trying to write comedy.

I was in high school. I read the book, Dick Gregory's Autobiography, and he talked about how he made the transition from being an athlete to a comedian. He said, I trained my mind the way I train my body. I thought, okay, maybe you can kind of learn this. I was obsessed enough.

I managed to do it. I wasn't more talented than the other guys at the open mics. I'm here because I'm more obsessed than that. That's usually what it takes. Exactly.

Stick with it. You want to get wives. Definitely. And especially in that, what I know of that business is if you're willing to drive to several open mics a night, it's like you can make a name for yourself. If you're going to not put the time and effort in and think it's going to come to you, you're never going to find it.

Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting business to go into. Um, as far as, yeah, I mean, I guess those early days, was it, you know, you said TV, were there specific standup? I liked about all of them. The first guy I really remember liking a lot was Bill Cosby because, uh, you know, I was, well, I had like, um, before he was my brother-in-law, we had the album.

So I'd access those, I could borrow those and listen to them and my neighbor had them. So those are the ones I listened and memorized. Yeah. And just repeated ad nauseum, David Wentworth with a near shot. I drove the neighborhood, everywhere in the neighborhood nuts.

I was dealing with Bill Cosby, you know, and I'm talking about stuff I don't, some of it I don't even understand myself. Yeah. When you're trying to sell it to eight-year-olds, you know. I remember a lot of stand-up as a kid that I thought was great, and then years later I'll be like, oh, that's what that joke was about. Exactly.

Wow. You said labor pain's a joke. That's a joke you get from working. I had no idea what a labor pain was. I'm talking about labor pains.

You know what labor pains are? Kind of. That's how you got that bad back, right? Labor pains. Yeah.

Oh man but yeah it's it's especially such a different world thinking that you know albums was really only access for most people it's yeah exactly there were very few even on tv at that point short of tonight show you know the the few that were lucky enough to make it there but when i. Was a kid i couldn't uh during the school year to be in bed by 10 you know by the time the news was over 10 o'clock i had to be in bed so i mean i missed all the late night Remember one night I couldn't sleep because I knew Frank Gorshin was going to be on Carson. So I got up. I can't sleep. Go to bed.

You just heard him say Batman. My dad just drove him crazy. And then the other venues, well, Sullivan you could watch. Yeah. But the other ones were like the Merv, the Mike Douglas, they were all during the day.

Middle of the day. Right. So, yeah, when you got a stand-up, it was really... Because they had variety shows back then, too. That was a.

A little bit, yeah. But you'd have to put up with dance numbers. Yeah, I didn't want to watch the Tom Hanson dancers. I want to watch the comic. I want to watch sketches, you know.

Definitely. It's, yeah. It was very challenging, I'm assuming, where now it's just there's so much out there and the Internet's like flooded with it. So it's a very different world for somebody now. But, yeah, that's interesting.

As far as your love of movies, I guess kind of give people a taste of what sort of movies. You know, you've mentioned a few, but just your taste in movies. Well, I tend to like older films. I'm not... It's not that I'm not open to watching new stuff.

I see so little anymore. To me, after a while, the curse of being around this long is like, okay, this is this with more taco sauce on it, pretty much. After a while, it starts to really repeat. I really love monster movies as opposed to horror movies. I don't want psychologically complex thrillers.

I want a guy in a suit. It's a different mode. Oh, yeah. It's not that I'm one of these guys who just likes stuff because it's... not that good. Some guys...

I do like it. I love Plan 9. I think Plan 9 is surreal entertaining. I mean, you can't say it's a great movie, probably, but I can't say it's not entertaining. Well, I just watched that and anything he made and I'm like, there's so much love in it.

Exactly. You have to appreciate that man's dedication. It's another one I was sticking to it. I mean, for years, he was just convinced he was a real movie director. And he got...

It's what Bob Burns put in his book. He was talking about he actually... got to meet him. He actually spent some time watching him shoot. That's amazing. I know.

I got to meet him. One of the greatest guys in the world. And in his book, I love what he says. He says, unlike his detractors, Ed Wood got movies made. I'm like, that's it.

Yep. That's the difference. It's like these independent filmmakers. Oh, he's shooting junk on VHSC tapes. What do you care?

He's getting it done while you're sitting there carping about how you would do it if you could. He's doing it. Or planning things, you know, grand movies you're going to make. It's like, He's piecing stuff together that, granted, it doesn't look good, but he got his story told. Exactly.

That's different. I think Ed Wood, one thing I've always felt so bad about, when he died and was 78, and the Golden Turkey Awards book came out in 80. Yeah. That voted him the worst director. And I'm thinking, if this guy could have... have hung on until like 1981, he'd be doing the college lecture circuit.

Somebody would be giving him, seeing him out some money. And the movie's probably, it's like somebody who knows him says, you could give him a million dollar budget and it'd still be junk. It's just ambition over talent, but you have to respect that. And especially, I mean, at that point, that's kind of so many movies were sort of like, here's a poster, make it match. So there was a lot of stuff that got churned out in that system that, you know, aren't A-list movies.

Right. But his, yeah, had such a, just an element of, you know, complete love for what is, you know, the filmmaking that he was doing. Good, bad, or otherwise, he just loved making movies. This wasn't a bunch of bean counters throwing, you know, buzzwords into a hat. Okay, let's tie all these together.

That's all about, like you said, Edward, the love of it comes through. It's amazing to watch, I think. Although I still haven't made it through Glen or Glenda. Boy, that's a slog. I keep going, I'll come back to this.

I have that one, yeah. I can't remember if I've made it all the way through or not. I have the whole set of his. I like stuff like that. And I like the great stuff, too.

I love Day of the Earth, Cecilia, I love it. I mean, the genuine classics. And I have a soft spot for like the movie The Atomic Submarine, which has some of the worst miniatures I've ever seen. A little clue, if you're going to shoot close-ups of a balsa wood sub, sand. I don't want to see wood grain on the side of a U.S. system.

And the screws on the first one, the propellers look like you took cardboard discs on a toothpick and just kind of cut around. Oh, it's... Wow. I know. If you've ever seen it, it's...

Yeah, it's. I still kind of love those, too. I mean, there's... I do, too. It's the same thing with, you know, the paper plates on a string for a flying saucer.

Like, to me, it's like if you get it across, you know, if I know what you're going for, I'll cut you a break for, like, you don't have any money, you know? It's like I almost respect the fact that you're trying to tell your story... And get it out there, you know, with the budget that you have. More than just, you know, putting $ 10 billion towards CGI. It looks almost as bad to me these days.

Oh, CGI. You know, I'm just starting to think I was just an old grouchy guy. I didn't like CGI. There's so much I've seen. I remember I once saw the movie.

See, on the road, I have my days off. And I used to go to a Plex and have to decide between one of three movies to go to. Now I can't find one. I remember when I was still going and checking about everything, you know, monster for a while. Yeah.

I saw Anaconda and I said, I can do this on my laptop and I suck on my laptop. How does this not... Yeah. Horrible it's yeah well then there's the whole new level because we we have a love-hate relationship with the sci-fi channel movies because that's all they look like they're like atari quality graphics they're pretty bad but again there's almost a level granted there's no love in those they're just. Whether it meets frogger yeah.

They're just cranking out you know whatever two animals they can slap together in a movie but We all kind of enjoyed Sharktopus on this show. Yeah, I saw a little bit of that. I said, you know, I like it. I don't know why I like octopus movies. So I got a lot.

I said, yeah, it's terrible. But then, you know, like the remake of Piranha, everybody tells me how funny. I said, I don't know. The original, again, not a classic, but you had Barbara Steele. Bradford Dillman, I think, is the most underrated guy ever.

I mean, this guy started writing books. because he the phone stopped ringing he could do anything i mean bad guy good guy weasel hero doesn't matter bradford dillman's like a swiss army knife he could do it all wow and i just you watch those and that's why i think i missed the most of the cast these great b-movie stalwart guys. There's i mean there's still a lot of like character actors out there now but it's yeah it's still kind of a different world than it was for yeah the b-movies back in the day but Piranha actually is pretty impressive, I have to say. I'll have to look it up. It's one of those, I give that director credit because he really knew what he was doing, and he's almost like making commentary about the old movies and sort of society.

I mean, it's so extreme. He does it almost to the point where it is making some sort of statement on the... ridiculous gore that's in the old movies and movies now and some of the dumb characters it's like he's almost making them dumb on purpose to kind of shine a spotlight on how stupid some of the characters in these movies are so yeah it's a little smarter than i expected going in okay i think i mean it's it's it's ridiculous. I guess i i'm at the point now where i have to hear something from someone whose opinion i respect yeah see it I still haven't seen the remake of The Wolfman, which shocks me because I'm a huge... It's pretty bad. I'm a huge...

Lon Chaney Jr. is one of my favorite actors. And I just thought... And a friend of mine, who had a MonsterCon, brought a copy of it. And I watched a few scenes. It was interesting, the effects and everything.

But I thought, I don't know. I'm getting a tone here that I just don't. See, the one thing I took, it looks good. Like, they did a good job as far as, you know, making... Because it's, you know, it's a period piece, which the original wasn't even.

So it's kind of interesting. That, you know. They've got that period area like through London and off in the moors. That all kind of looks good, and the atmosphere of it kind of does feel like sort of they're going for that old universal horror movie, but just story-wise, it's missing a lot. Performance-wise, I even like Benicio Del Toro, but he doesn't really do a great job.

It's kind of a letdown, yeah. I was hoping for a lot more out of that one. Yeah, Van Helsing's one I still haven't seen. I heard so many red flags on that one. I've avoided it, too.

Yeah, so how. I baz it, it'll break your heart. Okay, I just have to hear that. My friends, I just feel like, you know, maybe it's about time you take the hit. You go see some crappy movie and warn me because I've gotten so lazy about it.

Everybody else has to go out and take the chances for me. Go fall on the grenade. If there's anything left to you, come back and tell me. It's like, yeah, how can you mess that up? I mean, you've got so much. fun there.

It's like, all you have to do is make a guy killing monsters. I mean, that seems like a simple scenario. I mean, even, you know, Monster Squad did a better job. I mean, that's a fun movie. Oh, I loved Monster Squad.

Yeah, it's one I missed for years, and we just went back and watched it in the last two years, and I'm just like, you know what? I'll give them credit. This is a fun movie. This is a movie, when I was a kid, that's what you wanted to see. Exactly.

How can you mess up something like Van Helsing? It's the same idea. This is somebody who. Loves the genre did this. This is not... you know which again just.

Made by 12 year olds now and i just yeah it's it's frightening 12 year olds in business suits exactly. That's the two evils somebody who has no mind for anything you know useful and somebody who's only worried about the economics involved and Yeah, it's sad. It's all about the deal. It's not about the content. There's a lot.

I think they start with the action figures and work backwards from that. Well, you know, you've got to have your action figures. You've got to have your McDonald's tie-in. If you can't slap it on the side of a Happy Meal, you don't need to make the movie. It's sad.

Oh, man. There used to be a movie that was released as a film. a novelization and now it's a happy meal at least his food. Well now now they're working backwards and again on the show we make fun of it all the time that they're basing other you know it's a movie based on a toy it's a movie based on a you know it's bad enough a video game but some of those have a mild story but like a toy line or a board game and i'm just like really this is what we come. To it's sad they're not really risk takers. Oh man it's yeah it's weird I did want to ask you, I mean, we kind of know the sci-fi and horror.

As far as comedies, because we, it was funny for a long time where I was just picking movies and we, you know, as a group would pick some and I realized midway through, almost no comedies. And it's like, I just, there's so few modern comedies I like. I was like, you know, being in comedy, I didn't know your take on comedy films, as it were. That's another thing, too. I used to see comedies a lot when I was on the road, and now it's just so much of it's like the Will Ferrell, and I'm going to get mad about this, but I don't even begrudge the guy success.

I just, my thing is so many movies are popular, so many characters are so untethered to reality. Yeah. Everyone's over the top. It's just, it's just nothing there. Then again, I love the movie Used Cars.

My wife, I saw it when it came out, and I still can't believe it wasn't here. We laughed ourselves sick. And again, the characters are over the top, but at least there's some... Compare that to the... And I'm really embarrassed.

I saw it. I can't remember the name of it. the one with Jeremy Piven where he's selling used cars. Compare those two together. And I'm like, yeah, it's a gulf of difference. This is so crazy, so insane.

I'm a huge used cars fan. I love that movie. Yeah, there's so much. I mean, my wife, I just constantly quote in dialogue, you want to say a thing? About what?

That line just cracks me up. I saw that at the time, and I remember I tried to get everybody I knew to go to it, and people, ah, it doesn't look good. And I said, Man, you don't know what you're missing. This is fun stuff. It's so well-written.

Anyway, Jack Ward is worth seeing once anyway. But just the comedy. I mean, it's so well-written. It's got the lowbrow stuff, but it's so smart that it's put in the way that it's put in there. It's just so clever.

Yeah. Man, it's so funny. I love the, just a lot of great throwaway lines people miss where he says, we have to fight fire with fire. You know, you should fight fire with enhanced radiation weaponry. Just as he's walking out.

I mean, it's just like, if you're not paying attention, if you laugh at the last joke, it'll slide right by you. The pacemaker kills me. Garrett Graham kind of reaches out to touch it, kind of brushes his hand away, don't mess with it. His cluster of wires sticking out. How are you rechargeable?

How do you change the batteries in that? It's so funny. But yeah, there's such a different thing going on in comedy now that's just so dumbed down. That i yeah. Yeah it's it's really hard to find stuff and people recommend stuff all the time there's a comic actually coming here the caravan named stewart huff who was one of man one of the most original minds i've ever met funny and just the greatest guy in the world we were working together in virginia and someone said you got to check out joe dirt and they raved and raved and this is somebody who's runs a comedy club.

Their mom ran the comedy club. We watch it, and we're just kind of looking at one another. What am I missing? Yeah. The only thing that made us laugh was the stuff with walking.

Yeah, he's always funny. Doing his little dialogue with stabbing a face with a soldering iron. You know, that, we were dying. Anyway, walk, again, another guy. Yeah, even when he's not trying to be funny.

Yeah, right. I mean, I just, and I feel bad because, you know, like Adam Sandler, I worked with years ago, a nice guy, and I just, The only movie I ever liked was The Wedding Singer because he actually plays close to like a real, he's not doing some kind of sub-moronic voice. And he just screams the whole, like he's just angry. And I'm like, where does that even come from? Because he seems like such a normal, like boring guy.

And every time he's on screen, he just has to beat people up and scream. I'm just like, where is this coming from? What sort of sick inner twisted turmoil is this? I didn't like what he's done so far. This is good.

I'll see the next one. No, I won't. Not after this. I mean, Happy Gilmore has its moments, too. And those were pretty early on.

It's almost like he's gotten worse and worse in his comedies as time goes on. It's like, yeah, some of them now, I just watched the trailer. I'm like, I'm done already. I think based on an SNL skit. You know, you look at SNL.

I don't want to go off on a tangent. But the thing is, we were friends. Look at the stuff that's on SNL now, the guests they have. Yeah. The offshoots, the movies.

This is the type of stuff the original cast would have just savaged. Oh, yeah. You would have never. You think Michael O'Donoghue would have a good thing to say about Joe Dirt? You know, do you think, you know, and I remember the original show, they'd have like the short films, Gary Weiss.

They weren't just set a punchline. They were funny. They were thoughtful. They were. unusual. You couldn't do that.

I don't know what sits still for it. That's about the only thing that kind of works on the new show. Like the digital shorts they do every once in a while are really well put together. And again, it looks like they put a lot of time into that beforehand. It wasn't what they had to slap together in that week when the guests showed up.

So all the new stuff, yeah, there's... maybe one or two good skits in an hour and a half show. That's kind of sad. Yeah. Somebody moved the definition of hip on me. Yeah.

I just, I remember what we used to think was hip and now, cause it was really cutting edge stuff back then. Not just because they were pushing the envelope is what you could say or subject matter. I mean, but, Which I think everybody thinks is edgy now. No, just because it's dirtier or like, wow, look what I said. I'm an adult and mom and dad, you can't make me do anything I don't want to do.

I'm going to stay up all night long and eat ice cream and you can't do anything about it. You know what I mean? That's the feel I get. Whereas back then it was like, okay, I see what you're going for. You're making a larger point here.

Yeah, it was a tone that they had, especially once they got into the news segments and stuff. Nobody had really done a lot of that before. So yeah, it was pushing the envelope then. You think on that show open and there was a Belushi and the first one in O'Donohue, and he's like trying to teach them English. I will feed your fingertips to the Wolverines.

I'm like, what? I mean, went back and was like, what did I stumble onto? I mean, we were big Python fans before that. So, I mean, we were, I just, I was a kid. I just, I liked, see, I always wanted to be, I didn't want to be, I thought it'd be cool to be in comedy, but I wanted to be in a comedy group.

I was a fire sign theater guy. I loved movie comedy teams. So, I mean, it was cool seeing that. I mean, to me, comedy, Comedy groups were like rock bands to me back then. That's how I kind of thought the original, not really for primetime players.

Yeah, they kind of were, yeah. Yeah. It was kind of the new rock and roll back. It was huge in the 80s. All of a sudden, it was like, wow.

Then it just kind of, well, we kind of shot ourselves in the foot. So many clubs opened. So many guys got in who really just kind of want to avoid adulthood as long as possible. Yeah. I hate to say that, but they're out there.

Come on. Oh, yeah. I think I'm doing that. What do you. Don't we all kind of, to.

Some extent, do that? To an extent, yeah. But yeah, there's different levels, at least. But. I don't know.

The comedy troops have started to come back. It seems like in, in the last 10 years, there's, there's all these like resurgence of like the, Oh, like what is the one in the, the UCB theater that's come up and the, the, the Derek comedies when we just, that was one of the good examples I had lately. And what, what reminded me and maybe want to ask you, cause yeah, the, the Derek comedy movie was amazing. Like I'm, I'm so impressed with how clever it is and how it doesn't fall into just doing little skits strung together for an hour and a half. It's, it's pretty well written too.

So it's, I got to check that out then. The last comedy, man, it's been so long. My wife, and it's funny, it was just a hot day. I haven't seen the Clooney movie. It's up in the air, and I liked it.

But other than that, it's like Iron Man. It's got to be an event movie I really want to see. I'm going to tell you a movie I saw in a theater. We just went just to get out and go see it. I knew nothing about it.

Crossed our fingers, hoped it, and it was a pleasant surprise. We thought it would. Probably be eh. It was Bowfinger. That was a good movie.

That made me laugh myself. The whole thing, it just reminded me so much of Ed Wood, the whole, a super low budget, we're going to shoot this on the fly. The whole concept is like, you know, why hasn't somebody done this yet? Because I totally see this. Paparazzi, you always seem to know what the stars are.

It'd be very easy to just. To make your own little movie. They'd probably sit in a vault. Yeah. Never see the light of day.

You'd get sued six times over from whoever you were using. But yeah, it's, it's still a funny idea. And it was one that totally like flew under the radar. Like it, I remember it came out, it made no money. And I think it was like cable before I watched it.

And I was like, actually, this is really, you know, funny. And again, that was, you know, probably towards the end of the good run of Steve Martin. Cause he's another one that was just genius back in the day. And I, it makes me sad to see the stuff he has to do now because he's so much better than that. I think the thing about standup, I kind of liked when so many guys that transitioned to actors in your standup, I know.

And it's, it's, it is a hard job. The bigger you get, uh, it does get away from you. You go from work into a small room where you can feel like you can, you're aiming at people. You really have a feeling like it's all, you have a contact with everybody in the room, too, like stadiums. I can't imagine doing comedy in stadiums.

That's crazy to me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that sort of goes so against, you know, how you start out. But when they were stand-ups, at least you have, I think you have a degree of like, okay, you can scale back. Okay, I'm only going to work smaller venues.

And I just hate to see guys, especially with great comics, they go into movies and the parts they get They play these really, they're some of the worst stuff. Larry Miller, I think, is a brilliant comic. And I've seen him in some of the worst crap. He was that awful remake of, I call it a remake, name only, Carnival of Souls. Yeah.

Ouch. Because I love that original. That one's bad. That original's great. That's like a tone poem.

I don't think I made it through the remake. No. I just got, I remember reading Candace Hillegoss, who I had a crush on from that movie. I thought she was. And I'm watching this movie because I went in with all these ideas and they just threw everything out, took the name, just basically took it and ran away with it.

And I said, this is what you have. This is what you have to show for it. Seriously? Yeah, some of these, again, just remakes in general. Yeah.

It's so far gone. The only last remake I saw that I really thought was better than the original, and this is debatable for people. I really liked Ocean's Eleven better than the original. The original has a fun cast, but I don't think it's really... A great movie.

The remake is fun and it's a lot of good chemistry. I'm okay when they can find something different to do with it instead of just trying to choose some sort of shot for shot. Try to do something with the idea and then sort of do their own thing. I actually really liked the Dawn of the Dead remake. That's the first thing you start saying.

Yeah. I don't like it as much as the original, but my thing is, I love the fact, all right, they're fast moving. They went their own way. Yeah. They took the basic idea, but then from there, it doesn't really try to tie in every little thing and do a complete remake, which makes it kind of boring.

To me, he just did everything original from there. Right. That's pretty cool. It's like, yeah, it's not quite the same, but it's pretty close. It gets. for that point they were putting out a lot of bad zombie movies and that was one of the first ones that sort of came back with okay well they can really still do a good zombie movie now.

I told guys you know you like the original well you might like this I'll tell you what I says if it shows up on cable even if you don't think you're going to watch the whole thing watch that opening sequence I'll put that toe to toe with anything wow that really is really incredibly well done that's bam bam. Bam that yeah they pull back and the city's just in ruins and it It's a way to lead into a movie. That's good because Romero, the Romero stuff I love so much because I don't think anyone shows society imploding as well as Romero does. It's so thoughtful of me. I was watching Land of the Dead. like a couple weeks ago.

I really liked that one. I did too. And the thing is, I didn't care for Dennis Hopper. I thought it wasn't really fun in it. I think the thing about Romero movies, I tend to like to see them with non-stars because you find these great actors.

Who knew, I'm blanking on his last name, Ed, he was Knight Riders. Oh, Ed Harris? Ed Harris. Yeah. So you see guys who have been, Ken Frey's a great actor, but that's before anyone knew who he was.

Yeah. But I just, I watched that, and I says, the scene that really I thought was hilarious was that scene where they're in that bar, that nasty bucket of blood bar, and they've got zombies chained up by the neck and hand, and you stand just outside of their reach as they claw you and get your picture taken. Yeah. Once the initial shock is over, you start trying to, you start getting used to it. That's our society.

This is what's going to happen. This is what people will do. That's so believable to me. I totally get that. You'll be going, I can't believe somebody's down at the, yeah, they would be.

Yeah, a lot of people had issues with that. That's kind of the last... I haven't even watched the Diary. I watched the diary. It's okay.

It's just one of those things... just for Romero movies, the characters are just not that compelling. Everything he's done since then is everybody's just kind of like, maybe he needs to stop. But yeah, everything up to land was pretty impressive. What's the newest one? The one I've heard of, I haven't seen it.

It takes place like on an island. Yeah, it's like a western almost. I can't even, I haven't seen that in stores. The land had some very funny, and I love the fact, just little things like, they call them stenches. They've got a lingo developed around it.

Which is how it would be. Exactly. There's a lot more thought put into that than a lot of other movies. But yeah, I liked Land of the Dead more than most people. But since then, yeah, I don't know what he's thinking on some of the newer ones.

Yeah, yeah. Day was not really bad, but it was very talky. Yeah. Very talking. I didn't get into a lot of the, especially the bad guys are so over the top.

Yeah, they're so crazy. They're so like chewing the scenery. Whereas like on Dawn, it wasn't really, I mean, you know, the crazy bikers. But it was so much more a condensed kind of movie about our main characters. They're dangerous, but they're kind of semi-buffoon.

Yeah. That thing with the whole like, can it, can it? He's trying to talk and he's got this. Nazi looking helmet on it was like yeah this this guy. Yeah, I was watching an interview with Romero So I never I don't it's never a horror film.

It's more like a like a comedy nice I get that but it's still a lot shocking and I love mechanical effects. We're talking about you know CGI and That thing where they rip a guy's stomach open. My wife finally watched it with me because I knew all the bad parts of it. Oh, yeah. That was nice.

I go, don't look. Wow. And she says, yo, this is a good one. I said, yeah, this isn't just a body count movie. When Flyboy and these guys turn, you go, oh, man, I want him to get out.

Yeah. I mean, and it's a thoughtful movie. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on with just the dynamic of the three main characters that are kind of left behind. And then. Where they kind of are trying to figure out what their place in the world is at this point.

It's like, what's your point of living when everything's destroyed? I mean, there's little touches of that in there that, you know, not everybody would bother to put in a movie with people ripping a stomach out midway through. Exactly. Yeah. I've got friends of mine who griped about that.

They said, I don't get the whole thing with the piney face. I said, well, I think the whole thing was just the biker's. You think, okay, somebody will rise up. No, no. It isn't numbers and savagery are not going to save you.

You know, I think that's why I took away from that. At that point, it just, yeah, it's so silly during the whole biker scene. But everything else outside of that is pretty serious. Yeah. Yeah, that becomes the comic relief, I guess.

Yeah. Where do you find the one-legged priest i got that i'm like only you would find this guy you know i just thought it can't be just some some guy's neighbor i'm like. No no gotta find that guy no cgi either that's a one-legged guy you just find one-legged actors that's you know back when they made it huh difficult for being your directors man so then um I was going to say, as far as a tie-in, what was it, you know, that made you want to start tying movies into your act as you went on? Well, I always like horror movies. I like to talk about my friends, you know.

We would joke about it and just say, you're no assist in the movie. The guys, you know, kind of take them apart like there's a Pruder film and you see this doesn't make sense. But we were all comic book and famous Monsters of Filmland fans. And one thing I used to, it was a I always thought pirates always amused me for some reason. And I wanted to do a pirate bit in my act, a pirate doing stand-up.

And I could never get it to work. And in 88, I was just going bald. I couldn't stand this slow, awful process. So I just shaved my head. Back then, people, it was very... really made you stick out.

Yeah. The timing was the worst because it was around that time that Geraldo got his nose bashed in by a skinhead. Yeah. Right. So everybody thought it was, you know, dangerous or, you know, off the leash, you know, for the first few years.

But then I noticed, okay, all these bits I tried before now work because of the way I look. Yeah. I started talking about, well, I can sell this. This works now. And that's what brought it together.

And then I started doing the monster bash. Now, all this stuff was always, um, kindly that we have things about hearses and yeah scaring people and then went the monster bash and uh convention it's uh held around the pittsburgh area usually in butler it's been held there more years than any other place yeah and uh i talked to him i got to go on and uh intro a movie the brute man was rondo hatton i got the intro of the movie nice and um it was packed so tight the convention ain't gonna give me 15 minutes and it was I listen back to tape. It's painful because I try to get so much in 15 minutes. I got greedy, you know. Well, it's just they did a Q & A with the actress, Jane Addams from the movie.

Took a break. Everybody left. 15 people left. Next year, they just did a Q & A with Carolyn Monroe. Yeah.

And I told the guy, just bring me up. Don't take it. And she's, this is so cool. Carolyn Monroe said on the site, I've had this major crush on her, you know, since puberty. Yeah.

And she's sitting there laughing. How cool is my life? I got a Bond girl cracking up my act right now. Carolyn Monroe is here in the room. Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Carolyn Monroe.

That makes it a little better. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pinhead, Doug Bradley. Yeah.

And the audience told me how much he liked it at Monster Mania. Nice. That's very good. Life is truly good. So at that point, yeah, it was sort of green.

And now it's funny because, I mean, you couldn't have done that kind of stuff. definitely not when you started but no you know the geek world has kind of crossed over so much that like even normal day people know comic book references and know you know pretty a lot of pop culture movie references so you can actually work a lot more stuff into stuff in the last you know 10 years it's it's sort of changed oh you. Pick up a copy of ink and stan lee's in it yeah that amazes me because i remember stan lee in the comics in a soapbox he used to say how he used to tell people What do you do for a living? You'd be at a party. So I write comic books. He looked at me from outer space and he said, you know, it's all media.

And I go, Yeah, I never got that. My dad and my dad, oh, they hated my comic books. And he says, you're watching these Westerns. This didn't happen either. If you believe these Westerns, more people are grazed and knocked unconscious by bullets than ever died from them in the Old West.

Everybody gets hit in the forehead just so and knocked out with no permanent damage. Come on. Why is this so odd? And plus I was reading. Yeah.

Well, and they spent, you know, how many years doing like those pulp Western novels that are like exactly the same thing. Oh, exactly. Turned them into movies now. Right. So it's basically a comic book form of what you're watching.

So, yeah. You can't really call you out for that. Being like a little ahead of the curve. I saw Mad Max. I read about Mad Max, the first issue of Fangoria.

I thought, I've got to see this. And it came... I think it came to the drive-in. Yeah. Because I remember reading a story.

They said it just kind of got dumped in this country. It wasn't... They got sold to... Filmways picked it up and it got sold or something like that. They said it showed...

It actually... premiered in a theater in New York about a month before I actually went to cable. But I told everybody I worked with, only you would go see a movie called Mad Max. Road Warrior comes out, they see this, they're just agog, and then they go, oh, did you know there's another one called Mad Max? I told you about it. You said I was an idiot.

You said I was an idiot. Okay, idiot. Yeah. Okay, you have to hang with me now. We have to be joining the waste.

We're idiots. Yeah, see. The geeks have their day, finally. Finally, yeah. It's taken us a while.

I think it's great. I mean, I feel bad about some of the way the superhero movies, some of them are just the Batman franchise. Before they rebooted, it was just... You want to get away from that campy Adam West thing. Really?

You're putting nipples on the suits and you want to get away from the campy? Are you serious? Well, again, it started so well. I really like what Tim Burton did with it. And the first ones had such an identifiable look.

And he really tried to do something different with it. And it was darker and sort of a meaner version of him than the campy Adam West version. But, yeah, by the time Schumacher got a hold of it, it was a joke. I mean, it was completely just... the one-liners were nonstop and it was just, it was atrocious. And even he's apologized now.

Even he's like, some of this I had no control over. They, once again, they were, I mean, they were marketing stuff and they had like the deal made for the kids meals with the toys and like, You've got to work this extra character in because we're already making this deal. So, I mean, even the director is sort of held hostage to that stuff sometimes. And that's sad when it comes to that. That's very sad.

Yeah. That's bad. So you wonder who it appeals to. The fans aren't going to like it. They're not the ones.

You've lost their loyalty now. Yeah. And most people go, this is so weird. Who likes this stuff? The fans did before you polluted it.

Yeah, before you changed it. I don't know what audience you're going for here. And they always do that. With the overthinking and the suits get involved, you even look at Spider-Man. I mean, the first two Spider-Man movies are great.

And then finally... The studio got overly involved with it and went, no, we need more bad guys. And we need this storyline. And we need you to work in whatever the other villain was. What an awesome three villains per movie.

This is just overkill. And then you've run through the whole Rose Gallery. In two movies. You have nothing to do with your next movie because you've killed off every villain. It's so sad that they...

They just have to overcomplicate things, whereas that's why the first one or two movies in those series usually work, because they're simplified. Batman, the initial Tim Burton one, has one villain. That's why that storyline works, because you didn't cram three more in there. The three, I like the fact that Batman, the stuff I liked the most was the mysterious Ethan. spins around with the gun, he's gone. Yeah.

The smoke thing, and he just, that's the stuff I like. They really got that. It plays with, like, the mythos of Batman. Exactly. I like that.

Where'd he go? Yeah. Like in, which one? The Dark Knight. Yeah.

Where the Joker all of a sudden has a flashlight, and then Batman's right behind him, and bang. That's the stuff I love. That's awesome. And why, you know, that's why we like Batman. You know, we don't want, you know, nipples.

He's deadly serious. Batman doesn't do one-liners. Yeah. We don't need nipples on the bat suit we don't need 14 new vehicles for him that granted that was in all the series but i mean they get more ridiculous as the other ones go i do. Like the series but my thing is i i just consider them two.

Different oh yeah it's a different animal and i. Can separate them so people can't i can't yeah because as a kid and i just love batman i mean i grew up with that And it was funny. I love the Adam West show. Yeah. But I do like the alternative that we do have, like, man, what they did when they, the Christian, nice, thank you very much.

That's great stuff. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see if he can pull off a third movie, because he's putting it together now. So it's usually that third one's when it takes the turn, and now it goes to hell.

Yeah. Although Iron Man got a jump on it, because by two, it's already overcomplicated. I didn't like it as much as the first. I know it wasn't as smart of me. It was entertaining enough.

I just thought that the first was so good. I always thought, how do you sell Tony Stark? And I was like, okay, make them kind of a wise... Okay, that works. And it still fits with the...

It's more serious than the comic, but this is still. But he seems like a real character, too. Exactly. He's more of a real guy than most comic book movies get in that first one. That's smart, that rich, that tall.

You probably would be more than just a touch arrogant. You'd be a cocky jerk. Yeah, you would. If you could buy and sell anyone and do whatever the hell you wanted, yeah, you'd get an attitude after a while. So, yeah, it's a shame they kind of lost a lot of that by the second one, but who knows?

And once again, the studio is getting involved, so what can you do? Um. So I guess that's sort of a pretty good run through of a lot of movie thoughts here. So I guess we will leave it at that and take a break here and be back with this week's Sofa Theater feature. Bye.

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Come on, Bert, get serious. Yeah, you make it sound like a war. What do you people got against being prepared? Where's the sugar? Rambo.

Wait a minute, Walter's got a CB radio. Why aren't you calling somebody in Bixby. The police? Oh, no, we can't reach outside the valley because of the mountains. Melvin, you're next.

Come on, sit down, look scared. Okay, yeah. The phone's out. The road's out. We're on our own.

You two are just loving it, aren't you? Come on, Nancy. Let's don't get personal about this thing. We've got to do something. Hell, yes.

We are completely cut off. We've got the cliffs to the north, mountains to the east and the west. That's why Heather and me settled here in the first place. Geographic isolation. Well, there's got to be some way we can get help.

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There are tremors, little tremors In the valley Sunday morning There are tremors in the valley Little tremors, can't you feel them? Lonely cowboy in the valley There's a. Flower of the valley. All right, welcome back to Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater. This week's sofa theater feature is Tremors.

The year is 1990. Director Ron Underwood. They plot, according to IMDb, which usually they ruin it right off the bat. According to IMDb, natives of a small, isolated town defend themselves against strange underground creatures, which are killing them one by one. So with that, we'll throw out a huge spoiler alert here, and I would hope by now you've seen Tremors, but if not, I'm sure we'll ruin the whole thing for you.

You have been warned. All right. So actually, I gave you the chance to pick a movie. So you went with this one. What is it that you've liked about this one or wanted to bring me up with this one?

Well, I love, like I said, I love older, you know, the older monster movies. I'm talking 50s. It's probably my favorite. I love the classic universal stuff, but 50s science fiction is my favorite genre if I had to pick one out of all of them. And this reminded me so much of, because my thing is I'm at the point now I've bought so much of this stuff on DV.

If I haven't seen it or bought it, I've seen it. And I'm almost out of stuff from that era. See, so when someone does something that has that kind of a feel like this did, I was just on the road, had heard nothing about it. I think I might've been, I guess, I think I was in Columbia, Missouri, I think. I just went over and I just called my wife.

You got to see this movie, Tremors. This is so much fun. It's such a balancing act. I mean, it's funny. It's scary.

Again, we talked about characters you actually care about. It's amazing to me that it's not bigger than it is. And really, you take the language out and it's not so much gore. A lot of it is just goo. That was the thing I found out in this one.

It was originally set to be rated R. And they, they got into guests cause they, they were working the F word in so much that they, uh, they were totally going to get an R not for any of the violence or the gore, you know, cause it's mostly goo, but yeah, it's like, that wasn't the problem with the, the MPAA. They were gonna, yeah, they had issues with the fact that, you know, all the language that they threw around. So if you look, if you watch it now, with the exception of the one F you that, you know, that Kevin Bacon throws out at the monster, which is just funny. That's one of the funniest lines.

It's mostly his delivery. But yeah, they sort of dance around it. Like there's so many times they throw in another term. But yeah, you can kind of tell a few different places that, oh yeah, they probably went and changed that one. Or they may have even like dubbed in after the fact on a few of them that I think they kind of.

If they cut all those out, it cut it back to PG-13, which is why that's what I checked on there. I was like, they did get it cut back. So, yeah, it was released as PG-13. Probably because that's the only time it drops the F-bomb. It's way more effective.

You're not numb to it. And you said that delivery isn't just the shot and everything. Pointing at the camera. That's great. It's so funny.

And I think there's just so many. There's the dialogue. It's so believable, like the whole thing Walter is just obsessed with giving it. He says, grab boys. Walter, forget the damn name.

We're going to feel stupid if we don't give it a name. We discovered it. We get to name it. Thanks, Walter. Look, these are hollow points, but they're not Hydroshock hollow points.

Excuse me, I thought bullets were bullets. Hi, guys. What you been doing? Well, we ran into that new college student, that Rona. Ronda.

Yeah, she's having some trouble with her, uh, uh, uh, things. You know those college kids turn up oil or uranium or something out there? Next thing, the feds will be at our door. Sorry. Time to move.

Eminent domain. Down honey down yeah burt well you worry you're gonna have a heart attack before you get a chance to survive world war three we'll see we'll see and michael gross i always think that really mellow dad from Family Ties, he's played a survivalist. That was. That was like genius casting. That was.

It really... Because that's the... I mean, number one, it's such a 180 from what he'd done for like seven years or more on TV. It's like, yeah, he's not only a boring TV dad, but he's like a left-wing, you know, hippie... Right.

So, I mean, he's nothing but a hippie on TV for the last seven years, and now you make him not only the opposite direction, but yeah, he's a survivalist, gun-toting, crazy bastard. It's, yeah. And on top of that, he totally sells it. Like, he really turned out to be a good actor. He wasn't just kind of like the dad.

You know, he really is a good actor. It was more than just stunt casting. He really was. Yeah. The way he delivers certain lines, like he says, where'd you get canna fuse?

From my can. From my can. It's such a great reading. What's in those? Just a few household chemicals in the proper proportions.

It just sounds like a guy who just thinks. It really is believable. Exactly. You really do buy that. Broke into the wrong record.

That line just made me cry. I'm in a theater laughing my head off at that line. That one is awesome. And the guns, it just goes on forever. What's that, elephant guns?

It's like a guided missile in a barrel. Bam, bam, bam. Just keep pulling guns up the wall and shooting until they're empty. That is funny, the wrong rec room. Because, yeah, of all places, you go into one that the entire wall is coated in guns.

Like, that's, yeah, you don't want to walk into somebody's basement and see that unless you're prepared. Unless you're there to, you know, pick up your new Luger or whatever. Yeah, you just walk into that. God knows what you're in store for. So even funnier that a giant worm busts through the wall.

Yeah. But yeah, I think his casting is amazing. And oddly, Reba McEntire, she hadn't really done anything at that point. And the thing is, to me, she gets worse as she goes on. Because by the time you're watching her sitcom, it's like, it's so hammy and just forced this, you know, down-home-country attitude down your throat where she doesn't really play that in this.

It's just pretty straight and, you know, they actually seem like a believable couple almost. But yeah, she wasn't bad. I think the fact that she doesn't Yeah. Maybe she's like new as that. It actually works there because it just seems like a normal, average, you know, person.

That was probably it because she didn't know. She's not acting. She was just kind of probably being herself more or less at that point. Whereas, By the time they're selling her as this cheesy country music star on TV every week, she's really got to ham it up. My wife doesn't care for Reba Magner, so the fact she likes Tremors as much is really a testament to how good the movie is, because she doesn't leave the room and get something to drink when she shows up on screen.

And they don't give her a ton to do. She's just got to fire a gun a lot, which is good. Yeah, Michael Gross sells the couple there, but he's so good. Yeah. And if anybody latched onto it, I mean, he did not let go of that role, even when the other actors faded off as the sequels went on.

Oh, yeah. And the TV series, he was there every time because it was such a fun role that, you know, I guess he's just like, you know, aside from, hey, this is a paycheck, on top of that, it's just such a fun character that it's funny he stuck with it as long as he did. I love this, really, this incredibly out there, nothing, we've never seen anything like this. That's one thing I like about the movie. There's no real explanation in the movie where they came from.

I kind of like the fact, like, okay, I'm not going to concoct something. I don't know. They just showed up. Let's deal with it. I really, I actually, that's refreshing to me.

Yeah. Come up with some sort of, I love the fact that in the advancing theories, I vote for Outer Space. No way these are local boys. That line cracks me up. I don't remember if I ever saw him do, Fred Ward, excuse me, comedy before that, and he's hilarious.

He's so good. That thing that just, He talks, he's griping about Kevin Bacon's girlfriend. They're all the same dead wheat. Ooh, I've broken out that line that just makes my skin crawl. Just him going, ooh, I've broken out.

He's so good in that. I mean, again, he's been working for years. He's a good actor anyway. But yeah, watching him deliver some of these lines, it's like in lesser hands, this could go horribly wrong. But he's such a good actor.

It's like he brings so much to that character. Yeah. I think, and to me, that is kind of what makes this movie. I think, you know, it's a cheesy B-movie storyline, but if you gave it to, you know, bad B-movie actors, it would have gone that way. It would be a straight-to-DVD release now.

It'd be a sci-fi. It really would. It'd be a sci-fi movie with bad CG, you know, graboids, which luckily they hadn't gotten to that. There's only a little use of that. This was like the infancy of CG at that point.

I love that. I love, I love mechanical effects. I just love the fact that that was, and I'm so, wow, this has got to be really tough to pull off what they're doing and make it look as good as they did. And just about, there's like one or two times I think you can tell it's a visual effect, but other than that, it was all like actual practical, like arms for the, you know, the grabbing parts. And then the huge monster is one that they built, you know, they, they built this thing to shoot up out of the floor in the scene.

And that's, that's awesome. And you don't get a lot of that. Now everything has to be CD. So great shot off the side of the water tower, just kind of slither around the mud. That's really effective.

They all really. Looks like we should get eels. I mean, it really looks like. All the weird stuff they did. Yeah.

Some of that, they like dug trenches in the dirt and we're just like pulling something under there to actually give it that effect that it looks like there's a giant worm coming at you. It's, It's amazing the different versions that they had to do. There's a few of them I think that were actual puppets that they worked out when it's like the little snake type ones. They worked in ones that are hand puppets. So again, it's a mesh of all these different types of special effect that actually work pretty good.

To me, it seems pretty fluid. You don't really notice the cheesy. I mean, it's supposed to be cheesy. So when you see the monster, sometimes it's okay for it to be a little over the top and silly, but At the same time, it kind of works. It's still kind of frightening in its moments, you know.

Right. Yeah. I just I always love to see. I love the fact like it is predominantly mechanical. Yeah.

Not CGI. So you can do this. it doesn't necessarily mean it has to, if it's done with care. Yeah. Because bad CGI, so what's the point? If you can't make it look good mechanically, you know, if you can't make it look good on the computer.

Yeah. There's no hope at this point. Yeah, I just like the. Fact that it just, plus there's this part of me that goes, you know, there's like four or five guys probably, you know, working on the mechanical thing, probably two doing this. You know what I mean?

I just like the fact that guys are working, and I bet they got better stories than the guy behind it tapping on a keyboard all day. Yeah. They're like, oh, we had to put all this orange goo in here and then it exploded. Yeah. So there's a lot more interesting stories going on when you've got all these guys actually, you know, sitting there working on a set and, you know, sitting on the set for 12 hours a day versus, you know, some guy at a computer all day.

So it does sort of lend more towards that, you know, nostalgic era of the movies. Whereas now if you're it's almost like making a video game as opposed to, you know, the way it used to be. So it's yeah, it's kind of cool. You brought up the different versions of the story. I do like the fact that they don't ever narrow it.

To me, it did kind of bring back, we were talking about Romero earlier, the Night of the Living Dead scenario, where you never really know why. They throw out that comet idea, kind of like these. They throw out a couple ideas of what happened, but you never really find out. It's just like, at that point, your characters are thrown into the storyline, and They just kind of go along for the ride, but you don't really know. And you wouldn't really in the real world.

You'd never, you know, especially in the short span of time this story takes place, you wouldn't know where they came from or why. It's more horrific that way. Yeah. Just because it's like, okay, I have no idea. I know where this came from.

If I knew where they came from, I'd have an idea. I don't have a what. You wake up, what happened? Yeah. How this happened?

And I love the fact that after all these years, and she even says in the movie, she says... 11 for you know predate the fossil record that we just discovered now. Now we're exactly it's one of those yeah they throw that out there as maybe they've always been here longer than we have oh but yeah i as far as i think that is the difference though getting back to the the casting i think in in lesser hands it really could just be a bad sci-fi movie but kevin bacon and fred ward are That is, I mean, to me, their relationship really is what makes this movie. It sells it. Totally.

It makes it, kind of brings it to a different level. And it is one of those, I'm not even sure, it's so well put together, I'm not even sure what to think of it, because I almost, and I remember even the first time I watched it, started thinking like, It almost feels like they inserted the romantic female lead, because if you took that out, they're almost like a couple. Yeah. They really do respond. Unless they were like brothers, you kind of get that relationship if you're like family and you've been together forever, but...

The way that they, you know, if you took that element out, it almost would feel like that because they bicker like they're a couple, you know, they live in a trailer together. I mean, to me, it almost feels like it's such a weird relationship because they're so close and they're so like tight knit. then it almost feels like they were like, oh, we better throw a girl in here because this is going to confuse people. And I'm like, I wouldn't even care because I think there's such a good, just a good, a duo, you know, they really do work as that team that by themselves, it really wouldn't work. They really need that other person there to like finish the other sentence or to finish the joke sometimes that it would not work if one of them was just standing there or even with the other cast members it's like it only works with the dynamic of those two and I think it's what elevates.

This movie again they're so believable I don't really get any false okay that character wouldn't have said that everything for me and I did like the fact that when they did go for a female they got Finn Carter and I thought what I loved about her she's a science student out here So she's, when you first see her, she's not the super hot. She's got the zinc oxide. On her nose and the hat. She's a mess. And I love that because they didn't get like, okay, some young Morgan Fairchild type.

Megan Fox as a scientist. Exactly. And I think she's great and she's incredibly likable. Yeah. And she does seem like a real person.

There you go. And that's one I noticed is there's not, you know, this is a very basic story and it's there to be kind of fun and silly. So there's not a whole lot of character development along the way. But if there's anything, it's, you know, the only thing you can really see is this arc of the Kevin Bacon character of like learning to, you know, sort of. look at women, you know, for more than just, you know, their, their physical attributes that, I mean, that's the only, you know, little touch of like character growth that comes out of this, because I mean, it all takes place in like a day and a half anyway, so you wouldn't get much, but you get this turnaround of him that almost, you know, makes him even a better character by the end that, you know, he starts to appreciate the fact that, you know, okay, she's not a supermodel, but she's actually smart and she's, you know, got something new to say.

And, you know, she's a good person, you know, as opposed to just being, you know, a, a mannequin for. Me that's a nice touch too when he talks about his previous girlfriends he still has her picture flipped down of course this is exactly the blonde bimbo everything fred work yeah okay i met her but i met her i agree with her again it's like totally get the things like oh my god this is nothing like. And that's yeah and so we all appreciate that yeah get a clue buddy come on I think. The Walter character I really enjoy. He just seems like the type of oddball character.

And living out in the desert. Yeah. And this place is just so, just the fact, it's like, who can even imagine, there's one road in and out of a town. Yeah. I think one thing I like, it always reminds me of the 50s too, is that 50s movies, all the ones that seem to be set in that, it's always the desert.

Yeah. You know, it's like Tarantula. Yeah. It's like monolith monsters. You're always out.

There's a small town in this little place in the middle of nowhere. I love. I think they do a good job with that. They really make use of the, you know, the landscape and it, it also, I thought was, was different with this is it, it sort of brings in that different color palette. I mean, you're used to like a lot of horror movies.

It's always nighttime and it's dark and right. Almost all of this plot takes place in the day, in the bright sunlight. You've got all this earth tones. You've got, you know, browns and, you know, all these different colors. So it's a very different color palette to look at.

And, and, you know, cheesy horror movies, you know, you don't always get that. You get a lot of night shoots and a lot of, you know, creepy, gothic looking stuff. This is a, you know, complete opposite of that. Well, it kind of reminds me like in North by Northwest, you've got the plane buzzing Cary Grant. I mean, you always think of horror taking place in tight and close space.

Yeah. And here's this out in the open scene All this– and you're still not safe. There's just nowhere to really go. That's kind of– And we love that about this too. It's just like it shouldn't.

Be that– Yeah. Well, that's kind of what dooms you in this. It's like if you could get to something, you'd be safe. But it's like, okay, there's like 300 yards between me and that rock over there. I'm going to get killed between here and there.

It's like– yeah it's like you you almost wish it was a little more enclosed so there wasn't you know they've got this vast area that they have to like run through to escape or get some sort of vehicle or yeah so it becomes their you know undoing almost is so much empty wasteland. Oh the pole vaulting sequence i thought i think one of the things i thought was hilarious in the movie because in movies you know it's always like You know, they defeat, there's like a little victory and everybody just, I love the fact when they blow up the first Graboid. Yeah. And all of a sudden, all this meat comes flying out of the sky. They're just like, wow.

They never show that in these movies. Yeah. It's such a nice touch. Yeah. This would not be a clean.

No. Clean win. Blow up this gross worm thing. Yeah. You're going to get hit with some orange goo.

Yeah. But yeah, that is one of those touches that it's definitely comedic. It's not just a horror movie. It definitely skates that line. Especially with the characters, they fall into that where the lines and the delivery are almost a comedy at times.

But then it definitely falls into your normal 50s monster movie kind of scenario. So it does such a good job of sort of going back and forth and playing that both sides. What's interesting about this. You really, in the 50s movies, there's usually a scientist or someone scientifically trained. We've got her, but it's not quite the same.

Shit, it's been waiting here all this time? How does it know we're still here? It's got no eyes, right? Sure as hell can't smell us underground. I say it's been listening.

Of course. It senses seismic vibration. It can hear every move we make, especially on this rock. It's a perfect conductor. That means we're stuck.

That pisses me off. So everybody is really just going by the seat of their pants. And she's, I mean, she's the closest thing I have. She's the one that figures out the vibration. That's really all she knows is, like, you know, the seismology end of it.

But other than that, you know, once you get into the biology, they're like, I don't know what it is. I don't know how it does this. You know, it's, yeah. It's not my field. Yeah.

Just like, I don't know. Back in the scientists and movies where they were just experts in every, you know. Science. Yeah. It's like the professor on Gilligan's Island.

There's no branch of science. That's right. No, it's really outside my line. No, geology, biology, chemistry. He knows everything.

Everything. This guy's got them all aced. I love the professor. He's a good guy. I want him with me wherever I'm stuck.

And a radio. I need a radio. Yeah, I need a radio now. Here's what we have. You can turn the radio into anything.

Every other episode, it became something else. He rewired it into a tanning bed or something like that. He could do anything with that damn radio and coconuts. Oh, sidetracked. But I love Gilligan's Islands.

Just the monsters themselves. I was going to see what... Nothing very original. I've never seen anything like it. I was going to say, the only thing I guess before that would be Dune.

It was kind of... Yeah, okay, that's right. And then, well, Beetlejuice was right. The sandworm idea was... But they're very different looking.

Sure. Yeah. It's a neat idea. I remember there was an episode of Outer Limits, and I can't remember the name. I think Adam West was on that, and it was about these guys landing on Mars.

Basically, there was this creature, like a dragon-type thing, coming out from underneath the sand. That's awesome. Which is really cool. I said, wow, that's unusual. It's such a scary idea.

Remember Blood Beach? I saw that in a theater. John Saxon was in it. That was before, yeah. That's like mid-80s or so.

Yeah, that was before. I was trying to think of where all it was kind of drawing this idea from because I was trying to think if there was anything 50s-wise that was similar to this. But they were all just giant bugs, usually. It was all tarantulas and ants and mantises. Not really anything underground that I could think of.

Scorpions. Yeah, scorpions. But yeah, definitely Dune. There's got to be a little reference to that and Beetlejuice. I forgot completely about it.

There was a movie that... It's weird. It showed up on TV and they complained about it. I was caught up as well. When I saw it on TV, they showed these storyboards and explained it because I was lost.

If I hadn't read the books, it was just like, what? Hold on. Go back. I wanted to like it because I heard all my friends had read it and loved the book. They were telling me at one point they were handing out pamphlets when you got in the theater, like a glossary of all the terms they use and backstory.

I'm like, okay, this is too complicated to read. There's a point where you overcomplicate your own storyline. That was definitely not really in their best interest to overcomplicate that movie. It's already a lot to deal with. The one I was going to say, if you've seen The Burrowers, that's in the last couple of years, actually.

J.T. Petty made it. We talked to him. He's a really good guy. Definitely, his is more of a dark.

Number one, it's a western. It actually is set in the west. And it's sort of the same creatures coming from under the ground, but it's, it's a way more serious version, but it's pretty creepy. It's, it's one to look for, but it was the only other thing I could think of that since then has sort of tied into the same idea. And that was what he was saying is, you know, it's, it was such a scary idea that his was more on the planes with like the grass waving back and forth and you just couldn't see.

And all of a sudden it would attack. And yeah, it is a, it's a scary idea that, you know, it's bad enough, you know, cause there's very much a, a jaws. Cause even as they discussed it, this was, they refer to as land jaws basically. And it's very much drawing from the jaws idea as far as the, set up your plot and have this predatory creature just at any given moment, take people out. But I guess at least then when you're on the water, you know, you know, you're on the water, you know, when you're in danger, whereas this it's like at any given moment, the earth underneath you can, you know, crumble and you could be gone.

Like even when they're indoors, they're not safe. It's like, it tears up that whole little shop that they're in. Yeah. That's the fact that you start to figure it out. Yeah.

It gets smarter. So it wasn't just a matter of like, you could have ended right there. We stay in the rock. We're fine. Or, I just love the fact, wait a minute, oh, new wrinkle, new wrinkle.

So, I mean, that's one thing I think really advances the plot along because it would have just been, as long as no one got silent, we're okay. Yeah, they're learning. Too easy, too many provisions. It would have just been, just the whole fact, and they had to build that whole roof and the whole thing. That was actually impressive.

That was very impressive. And I've been watching the making of stuff. It's actually made like that. It could collapse, and then they would go back and put it together for suit two, and they would do another scene on it. And I'm just like, that's impressive that they built this thing. it must've just been rubber because the whole thing like folds in half almost by the end.

And the fact that they could turn around and okay, take two. I love the fact too, they, uh, they chew the tires off. The four by four. So now the vehicles won't work. And even like towards the end where they start realizing, uh, okay the structure itself like he's like touching the structure and then realizes okay if we take out the foundation they're gonna fall down to us right they're so like smart which you can't it doesn't even make sense really that this this worm-like creature is so damn intelligent that it starts figuring out like how to destroy the foundation of a building and tumble it down it's like it's kind of frightening at that point that this worm's out thinking you got it.

Oh, man. I just felt bad that I never liked the sequels that much. The second one, I don't think I went past the second one, really. I saw that when I saw part of the third. Man, I'm just not getting into this like I thought I would.

The original I just thought was too perfect, the cast. It's been years since I've seen even the second one, but I remember the first half just seemed like a rehash. It just felt like they were doing the same thing as the first movie. I almost liked that when they brought those new creatures out, the new little spawn of whatever they were that walked around. that was at least something different. I liked the idea that, okay, well now we're at least watching a different movie.

It's, it's doing something different than the first one where the, the first half just felt like they were sort of, okay, here's a catch up of what happened in the last movie. Let's do, you know, a half hour of them doing the same blowing up worms like they did before. And I did like the whole thing with like Fred Ward really didn't get anything out of his story. You know what I mean? Just, it's like, you think he'd be set for like, no, no, no, just such a hard luck guy.

Even after this, he was there and he still can't really turn it into anything great for himself. Yeah. That's what's funny is it also takes this turn, I guess it's sort of clever just from the screenwriting aspect, is it's got that same, and a lot of movies do this, this like, can't get out of town storyline yeah there's a lot of movies especially at that era that started doing that you had like a red rock west that did that and uh like u-turn and you've got this character that all they want to do is get out of this town all they need to do you know there's like trapped in paradise on the comedy side or like quick change where it's like all we have to do is get out of town that's all we have to do and like every step of the way something comes along and that's what it sort of felt like in the beginning like the first half hour of this is like all right we're loading up the truck we're out of here and then like there's this dead guy and then there's the roadblock by rocks and like we got to go back and tell this so it's like every step of the way they just get stopped or right i.

Keep saying ed fred ward i agree line goes is there some higher force at work here i mean he's just so exasperated you totally buy this guy he's just like well i've driven out he's like you got this time anytime i want to he falls out where they're trying to get to he's just. Like is it asking too much all we want to do so yeah it's i just like that aspect but it is just that one day too late if we would have left yesterday it would all been fine so that's yeah that was kind of a fun little uh just i guess yeah screenwriting wise that they put that in the first half and it disappears by the time the monsters show up but. The fact that you know these guys are handyman so you just got to take whatever you can get so they got the worst You know, it's like putting in, you know, offering to put in a kiln or something.

They're having to pump the guy's sewer. I mean, just the most indignant, you know, just these indignities that they have to survive just to, I just love the way they're sitting out in the chairs and there's beers and an old toilet bowl cocktail. And I think, again, what almost sells it with these two characters is, you know, a lot of, as we said, a lot of these movies have like the genius characters that explain everything. These guys are kind of dimwitted. they're not the smartest bulbs in the string. And, uh, that's kind of what makes them fun.

It's like, they really do feel like real characters. Cause there's a lot of people you run into. They're not all that smart, but they've, they're, you know, they've got a whole life here and, you know, maybe he lives in a trailer and maybe they're just, you know, putting up a barbed wire fence for their job. But, you know, These are real characters, and I think it really does sort of take time to get to know them, even though, you know, they're kind of goofy. Then they gripe about how it was, again, not having a plan is the reason we're stuck.

What kind of plan do you have, really? Their plan to, yeah. And what exactly is going on in this Bixby? I don't know. This thriving metropolis of Bixby.

Like, I'm not sure what you're going to get to when you get there, but good luck to you guys. Hey, what do you think of our Bixby? I mean, everybody's just probably... basically I think it's a neat touch and I just it's a little thing but it's I really like is the fact that they make the monsters smell they stink and there's just these little references to it it's like every time they get in there yeah he says sulfur geyser they smell like that and i think about he says oh it's not good because it's dead the live ones smell worse than the dead ones i just love a little touch like that you never think what they smell like yeah just that just to make it even more disgusting let's make them stink too.

Well you think yeah i mean most animals are kind of gross anyway really then you magnify it by like you know the size of that and the fact that it's dripping orange goo half the time it's like it's probably gonna smell pretty gross actually The other thing I thought was kind of interesting with this, the director, Ron Underwood, this was his first feature, but then do you know much about him? No, I don't. Because I didn't at the time, and then I looked him up, because to me it's such a love letter to old sci-fi movies and horror movies. I'd want to see more by a guy who did this movie. Yeah, he's not a genre director at all.

It feels like guys who would be into that, that would be their thing, and they would just do a lot of cheesy B-movies or stuff like that. No, I mean, he followed this up with City Slickers, which is a good comedy. Wow, good movie, but I would never guess. Not the same guy in my mind, yeah. Usually if they don't have a feel for the genre, so often the movies are just like they just missed being, they just missed the mark.

It feels really forced, where this feels like it's just telling the story. It doesn't feel like it's really like... specifically ripping off any other movies, which somebody who doesn't, you know, have an appreciation for the old genre movies, you know, it's harder to do that. But yeah, for somebody who's not, cause then it's looking through the rest of his stuff. Now he does like tons of TV. I mean, he's still working.

He's doing like heroes and castle and like some of the weirdest, like Reaper episodes, which again, comedy, I understand. But the fact that he did this movie seems weird, but yeah, followed it up with city slickers and then did, um, heart and souls which was that cheesy like um that's his name with uh iron man um oh uh um robert downey or yeah robert downey jr it's like it's a comedy about like dead people like ghosts that come back and like jump into your body kind of comedy with robert downey jr it was it was not great even at the time i remember being kind of let down. Shepherded and is it Which one? Civil Shepard. Was that the one?

No, that's a different one. It's a different dead person jumping into your body. There's a whole little genre there. Yeah, there was a huge. I've seen.

More dead people jumping into live person movies than. I thought I had. Yeah. That was you again, maybe? Or something.

Yeah, I remember that now. That's what made me think of that. But I thought, no, I think that was before. That's a different one, too. But by the time I saw Tremors, it was just a nice little gift.

I wasn't expecting... I hate to say it, but I wasn't expecting it would probably just be... There'll be one or two good scenes. You'll rent it and fast forward to it and show your friends this one good bit. And it's become one of my favorites.

It's really, it really, I just love it. A good, pleasant surprise. It's like when I went and saw, I hadn't seen, for some reason, I never got around to seeing the first two Evil Dead movies. And then I just think the stores I went to didn't rent it. It's one of these things I'll get to it eventually.

And I saw Evil Dead. I remember I was the only guy in the theater. I saw it on a matinee. And it was so, I mean, I love the fact, everything you need to know is at the very beginning. You're set up.

And I remember laughing my head off, and the only guy in the theater, it was the strangest feeling, laughing at a movie, when you're the only guy in the theater. I'm surprised he didn't just go, you know, we only got one, we're not running it. But they ran it, and I said, another great, I just, every once in a while you stumble across great, FX was a movie like that. I knew nothing about it. I really liked that one.

Thank you. And again, just finding guys that are just sort of on the cusp of, you know, they've been working, Brian Brown worked for years, But like, that was the first thing I really remember seeing him in. And then after that got a lot of bigger projects and most of which weren't good. And so you kind of catch them right at that point. That kind of the same thing, Kevin Bacon.

I mean, he's the name above the title, but he still wasn't like, you know, coming off a footloose. That was his big, you know, that was his big role really. So it's like, this was just at the point where he was, you know, cause then later he's doing stuff. It's pretty high profile and big budget movies, but again, not all of them are great as time goes on. So yeah.

This is kind of catching them right at the right moment. Also with the worst hairstyle possibly of his career. That hair is bad. That's, yeah, worst hairstyle, and that's taking Ren McCormick into the. His, yeah, his stringy long hair is really...

Which, again, ties to these, you know, down-on-their-luck characters. Exactly, yeah. Because he just looks like a mess in this movie, which works so well with the character. But, yeah, it's... Some.

Scrawny screw-ups at the end of the bar and shoots his mouth off. He's really believable. He really kind of is. He does seem like he'd be, you know, pulling a beer out of a toilet. Sitting in a lawn chair somewhere in front of his trailer.

He really sells it. Yeah. So, again, I don't know if you would get a bigger name actor to do that. I mean, he was at that point in his career where he didn't mind doing this kind of silly role where, you know, once you're a big A-list actor, sometimes you don't want to look this silly or you don't want to do somebody that's kind of a dimwit. This has been right on the cusp. especially after Footloose is surprising yeah that was an interesting choice where Fred Ward is just kind of a journeyman kind.

Of he's always yeah he's always sort of turned in these kind of roles like he's never the main star but he's always impressive. Closest came probably was in Miami Blues I thought he was kind of he's like one of the main yeah the other I really liked him I thought he was great in that movie I loved him in Southern Comfort. Isn't he in The Player? Isn't he like the studio executive? He's so good at that.

Great opening shot where he's talking about this great tracking shot. Yeah, and they're doing the. Yeah. I love... The guy brings up something like that, touches you, you're like, I didn't see that.

I mean, I love that movie anyway. I think that's one of Altman's best and underappreciated. But yeah, Fred Ward is so good in that one. And that was right around the same time. I mean, he just turns in such good performance.

It's unusual for an Altman movie. I'm seeing the overlapping dialogue. I'm thinking like things like, you know, I'm thinking like Nashville and things like that. Yeah, I said, I really, yeah, the player was, well, not a happy ending, but a real one. Yeah, it's just kind of a sharp.

You know storyline it's it's it's smarter than a lot of and it's it's one of those i'm going back and sort of revisiting some of his older stuff and he's very hit myth he's some of his stuff is so different than the others so yeah he is he is an interesting director but. Buck henry pitching the graduate too i love that and i says i just know somebody somewhere has tried this it's somebody tried to pitch. Well i mean they're doing it now last week we talked about uh they're they're trying to do top gun 2 Really? 25 years later, really? You're going to do a sequel?

Really? I'm just like, so you know that stuff's going on because it really, they're getting made. I mean, Wall Street 2. I mean, that was almost 25 years later and they did it. I mean, just like, who's greenlighting these projects?

Who's sitting in the desk there? I see the Star Chamber 2 and then Wall Street 2. Yeah, like, who's sitting behind the desk going, you know, this is going to fly? Really? I don't see it happening, but that's just me.

Yeah. Oh, but it's funny you brought up Evil Dead. I thought that was one of the few things, in giving this director credit, even though he goes on, I mean, he makes some bad choices. I mean, he brought us Mighty Joe Young, the remake, which to me doesn't even, I mean, again, that could be a genre movie, but what little I remember of it is more like a romantic comedy or something. It plays very differently than the old Mighty Joe Young, obviously.

I haven't seen it. The only reason I think, the only thing I want to see, if somebody could just snip this scene, I want to see Ray Harryhausen, who's the... I think he has a cameo in it. Probably, yeah. A couple on their anniversary, and the woman, I can't think of anyone who claimed to be married to Howard Hughes, I think.

She was in the original. Yeah. Yeah, I said that one I'd love to see. See, I love when they put those touches in, but sometimes they're in movies that don't deserve it, almost. I've got to slog through a lot of stuff.

I didn't care for the King Kong remake all that much. It's too long. But I had my wife with me. I probably would have just left, but then... Uh, we paid for two tickets and she went, okay.

So, and plus at the end, I'm waiting for Bob Burns at a cameo. Yeah. You know, if I'd been by myself and he'd been the first 10 minutes, I'd be gone. I walked out. I've still not seen the ending of the American Godzilla.

Oh, God. It's a train wreck. I said enough. I said enough out loud and I walked out. I mean, people are just like, what's wrong with you?

It's just a movie. No, no, this is a big iguana. This isn't a Godzilla movie. It's not Godzilla. And by the end, well, you missed out because by the end it becomes Jurassic Park.

Well, when I saw it. It focuses with the little creatures. Yeah, when I saw it, it was at the scene in Madison Square Garden. Yeah. And Matthew Broderick.

Broderick, yeah. Elevator door opens he sees him eating the popcorn he goes wrong floor and i said that's it enough and i got my left i was so i mean physically i just angry because i just i mean john renault's in this too and i like him so why is this such. Yeah crap because i mean the main character the title character disappears for like the last half of the movie and you're watching the little babies which are basically velociraptors run around and i'm like that's all we just saw this a couple years ago it was called jurassic park speaking of which did you notice the little girl in this is the little girl from Jurassic Park. As I'm watching it, I'm like, she looks familiar. I'm like, so, yeah, like three years later, this one she's running away from Tremors, and three years later she's running away from Velociraptors.

I didn't realize that was the same little girl. It's the same little girl, yeah. Pogo stick. Another neat little touch, the fact that pogo stick, anything you think, anything that can make vibrations, pogo. Let's bounce up and down on a pogo stick.

Yeah, exactly. Nice touch. Let's doom this child. Go jump up and down on a pogo stick. The doofus who gets on the tractor tire in a jar, this will kick me off.

Yeah. No, you have to get up high. How about the big hole in the middle, genius? I would think, I wouldn't even think like, well, maybe, no, no, as high as I can get, as solid as I can get. On top of the car is not good enough, really.

Let's go further. But, yeah, as far as back to the director, I mean, aside from the fact that he did Mighty Joe Young followed by The Adventures of Pluto Nash. Oh, ouch. He did that? Yeah.

Oh, ouch. So, I mean, I lose more respect for him the more I look at his filmography here. But, you know, this one I was surprised, you know, there are so many different styles that he sort of weaves in because you've got, like, the very Jaws moments of it where it really is like the– the sand jumping up underneath them and doing sort of that line in the sand there as you see it running towards them. That feels like Jaws. Or the one that really felt like it is when the jackhammer gets stuck in it and you just see the jackhammer kind of moving around.

That kind of felt like the barrels moving in the water where you know where it is, but you can't even see the creature. I was like, that kind of touches similar to that. But then you also get the shots that are almost that fast-moving POV where it's almost like Evil Dead. It really does kind of have that... fast paced camera jumping around, you. Know, Nestor gets eaten.

Then the camera goes up to the kid. Yeah. I can't think of his name. Melvin. That's a great move.

It's yeah. There's, there's some really clever camera work and like different kinds of sick. Cause some of the stuff's very normal and it feels like, you know, your standard, you know, comedy like he does later that are pretty static, but then there's other shots that are really inventive. And I kind of give him credit for those. Again the ground shots i like the thing with the yeah like the dirt's just like moving really quick which that's a neat little.

It's funny that's that's something that like now like david fincher is sort of like cornered the market on that little move of doing that like diving into things and watching it from their point of view but yeah this was like you know before he was even doing that kind of stuff it does this like diving underground following them shots that are pretty clever and and again the graphics on it look pretty good and whatever version they did on that one but yeah it looks good But yeah, I don't know. I think all in all, it is one of those that, yeah, it probably will kind of catch you off guard. It is something you would expect to be, you know. Kevin Bacon. I wouldn't expect Kevin to do it.

Yeah, that too. Just, you know. Because again, he's hit and miss for me. It's like he's... Flatliners, I can't remember.

Yeah, which I actually like Flatliners. Yeah, it's just, it's kind of like, you just don't think of him as a genre guy really at all. No, but then you look at, yeah, I mean, he comes back to it, even like Hollow Man, which isn't good, but is a very... wanted to be a very genre kind of movie. And so he comes back to that stuff every once in a while, but our stir of echoes, I, I don't think I've seen that, but that's, that's supposed to be a really good one. Yeah.

So he comes back to that stuff, but yeah, to me, he, he got so well known for like his like comedy, romantic comedy stuff for a while there, unfortunately. And then like dramas for a while, he's, he's kind of all over the map. So it's, it's sort of weird to see him thrown into this. And I guess at that point in his career, it was, it was still an option to, uh. I liked the big picture.

I like movies about the movie business. I think we reduced the telemarketing. How many times have you said to yourself, gee, my phone stinks? what are you selling to these people? I just, it just sounds like the type of thing I'd get where I'm like, I just off the door in a hurry. Yeah.

What? Hello. And I'd be that pause. I go, Oh no. And then that, that, that's why it'd be great.

Hello. I'm looking for someone. Yes. That's a clever written movie. Yeah.

And another one that was totally under the radar, hardly anybody's, you know, other than when it showed up on cable, but like nobody saw that movie out. As it went on. It's yeah. He's, he's been in some good stuff, but yeah, sometimes he just shows up in, you know, big budget stuff and, So it's kind of cool to see him in this, which was a pretty mild, you know, a pretty mediocre budget, I guess, for the grand scale of what they're trying to do. It seems like this has done enough.

A pretty small budget, but yet you don't really see it. No, I think it's unforgivable when you have gigantic budgets. You know, Lake Placid is a movie that some people like, hate. I love it. I think it's a fun movie.

Another movie I think has great dialogue. And that's a movie. There's some CGI. It's in the credits. But I look at that, and overall it looks like models are big mock-ups.

I mean, it doesn't look... I don't get that... Oh, not this. Yeah, it was a movie I watched. It was one of the mummy movies, the newer ones.

Oh, all of them. The one with the rock or the dwing. That's the second one. Yeah, and I says, this is a video game. And then they had the scarabs, these little blue.

I said, look, every time you flip them through, I make this scribbling thing. It's like you drew over stuff with blue felt pen. Yeah. It's terrible. And I can't believe the budget that went into this.

Like, if you can't do it. Don't and that was like right when they like totally came on board with the idea of doing like computer animated stuff because that was one of the first ones that had a ton of stuff like you watch every time one of the plagues comes along it's all this new at the time showy cgi stuff that they were doing and like even then i remember just going i know this is supposed to be cutting edge but i don't really like the way this looks and so yeah those have always just been a letdown for me because they did They're so wannabe Indiana Jones that it upsets me because, you know, Brendan Fraser cannot carry that. He's bad. casting anyway and then on top of that I hate that it's also tying in the mummy because the mummy is such a cool story and it's like well now nobody's going to do another mummy movie for 10-15 years because they've already got this huge run of bad mummies yeah it's like I would kind of like to see a good mummy movie again and you know now that they've done this mess it's like we're not going to get one for a while so Yeah, that one sort of led down.

That's the big first show, just the worst CGI effects, the helicopter and escape from L.A. That's another movie. I only got to the end because I was waiting for Pam Greer to show up. I love Pam Greer. Otherwise, because I love Escape from New York.

Oh, yeah. Dark little. What a weird turn from Escape to New York to Escape from L.A. L.A. Has got its moments that are fun, but it's such a mess.

It's just structurally it's such a mess. It's weird that Stephen Carpenter doing it because it doesn't feel like one of his movies at all. It's like somebody just took a handoff. I don't want to do a handoff to some other director. Because he's one that is so underappreciated over the years.

I mean, you look back at some of the most classic movies, especially horror movies, and they're all like Carpenter movies. They Live is one that I think is. They Live? They Live is one. Another one that just surprised me.

I'm like, wow, what a great little movie. Totally. Just in the last 10 years or so, people really have started to appreciate it. But at the time, nobody cared about it. Well, he even said, I mean, he said it was a victim of really...

Terrible timing. Not that he was making excuses, but, you know, this is basically, the movie's kind of like Republicans from Outer Space. And he said, and it came out, I think, he says, on the eve of Reagan's second inaugural, the worst time in the world to bring this out. He said, just, I was so against the mood of the country at the time. But the more you watch it.

And ever since, I've had this huge crush on Meg Foster, who I think looks so great in this movie. It totally looks like an alien conspiracy. I love you, but I don't trust you. And Roddy Piper, I would never think, very likable. And that fight scene where I'm watching, I go, okay, it goes from funny to dumb.

And you just have to laugh again because. It's so attractive. It's so over the top. Somebody told me it was based on a. Like a John, there's a John Wayne movie with an incredibly long fight.

I think, yeah. That's apparently one I haven't seen, so. I think so, but even then, it's just, at some point, it starts to feel like WWF. Once you realize you're looking at a WWF fighter, I was like, okay, is he going to get up on the turnbuckle now? Yeah, is he going to take the folding chair and bash it?

I'm waiting for that. It really felt like that after, you know, after 10 minutes of this fight. You're just like, really? This manager shows up and sneaks up on the bad guy. Why is Lou Albano in the corner over there?

That's a fun movie for a cast. It had Peter Jason in it, and it had Cy. It's a Cy Richard who's in Repo Man. Yeah. He's got a part in it.

Buck Flower's always fun whenever he shows up and stuff. I thought it was kind of an oddball thing where those little, what they call those little devices they use in Ghostbusters show up in there. Nice. The guys in the camo have them. Oh, man.

That's it. I mean, it's weird. Looking back, there's... There's a lot of them that just sort of flip under. And this is kind of one of those really tremors.

It is one of those that I don't think it was a huge box office success. No. But it's one that sort of found. Probably okay relative to its budget. Yeah, probably.

Probably found its. Found its home on VHS. I think so too, yeah. When videotape really had its own market at that point. And I think that's probably where everybody kind of caught it.

And then cable over the years. I mean, which is why they ended up being able to do all these sequels. I mean, it eventually got this following. But yeah, I think initially it was one of those that. probably mainstream people were just like what is this underground. Worms i've been on with every one of my friends you've got to see this i mean yeah now it's i mean now i think the word would have got out but back then man i just remembered i called everybody i knew that would possibly be into this i just want everybody to see it i stumbled across this i think you're gonna like it it's yeah john agar could have been in this movie just felt so much like the desert and monsters you have mara corday you name all these i just can see the whole you know the universal.

Stock definitely yeah it's it feels like that it is is sort of the fun you know end of it that you got from like you know your giant monster movies from the 50s they it kind of feels like that so it's yeah it's kind of cool to go back and revisit this because it is one it's funny i hadn't watched it in years and then just sort of caught part of it on cable like a week or so ago and It was like, yeah, that is a good idea. Let's go back and watch Tremors. It was just on the other day, and I just, man, this is one of those movies I would like. When I first got on VHS, I didn't have as many movies. I would put it on, and it just, it's a movie I can, it's kind of like Ed Wood.

I can put it on the background and just listen to the dialogue. The dialogue is so good. If I can't physically face the... I'll turn around for the stuff I have to see. But just physically, there's certain movies that dialogue is just fun to listen to.

And this is one of them for me. It is. It's just their delivery on it, it's all. It's so funny. And again, I think because it's those characters, and they do feel real, and it is just those.

You wonder why you can't see. We're talking, like you said, a modestly budgeted movie. You really wonder why there isn't more of that. Great dialogue. The movie isn't 100% successful, but people talk like human beings.

They're very believable. And I just don't understand why there isn't more of that. It seemed to me to be not that difficult. I think a lot of it, especially on the bigger... You probably get better stuff on the independent stuff, where they put a lot of work into the screenplay.

But I think a lot of now, what it seems like, I think the problem probably is the ridiculous number of people that are brought in, where you've got a script... And then it gets handed off and rewritten to, you know, so you've got seven to 12 writers now involved in this. So it's like, how can you have like one, you know, cohesive character when, you know, seven to 12 people are writing what's coming out of their mouth. So somewhere along the way, they're just like, uh, here, say this. Yeah.

I think it, again, it makes the characters dumber probably, or at least not a uniform feeling out of them. So, cause there are some times where you're like, where did this scene come from? Like, it feels like it's from a different movie. And sometimes it's, well, probably writer number six came in and he put this work in. Yeah, but it looks good.

We can show this. We can do this. Then at lunchtime they fired him. Yeah. Okay, fine.

Where can we work that in? So yeah, I think that's probably where most big budget stuff suffers now is the ridiculous amount of hands that are in the pot here. And You've got all these writers coming in and all these producers adding their two cents as to what it needs and what's really going to make it a success. Here's what we need. Go get it.

Go fetch. Leave the adults alone. We'll put the movies together. That's kind of why. I don't think you saw that much interference years ago.

Yeah, I think. If you're making a piece of. I hate to say piece of crap. Something that's just... Everything's stacked against you.

I think a guy who never got... Richard... Is it Kuna? How do they pronounce it? It's just a lot.

Frankenstein's daughter. This guy got handed more stuff. It was just like, all right... Uh, let's do it. And I just think he was a guy that did the best with what he had.

I understand, you know, doing that. And again, but I just, when you're. Just, how do you even expect this to gel? I was just, it's such a dog's breakfast of an idea and a mix. I get it when it's.

Okay, I don't have much money. The actors I got, like we were talking about Ed Wood, this is what I've got to work with. You have all this at your disposable, and you turn out, I mean, forgettable crap, not even monumentally awful crap. I mean, I didn't like Waterworld, but I could laugh at the fact that just the whole science behind it. Wait a minute, let me get this straight.

It took us millions of years to evolve this, and 400, this guy evolves years. This guy evolves gills. Gills, sure. Really, I'm buying all of this. All the guys to start doing all these post-apocalyptic sci-fi things.

Kevin Costner. I gave you credit for trying to stretch, but what is this in the post? What are you doing? Get out of my sandbox, as I felt like. You're a mess up.

There's so many of these, the big filmmakers and the stars, you know, they seem to think the genre is broken and they need to fix it. No, it's not really broken. I understand if you have a really good idea, you want to try something, but it's like, I'll show you how to make a horror film. No, you won't show me how to make a horror film, apparently. Well, at least Waterworld is what it is.

It's ridiculous and it's over the top, and you can enjoy it on that level. It's just silly and you can have fun with it on that level. But you look at The Postman, it's like, you're trying to take that genre idea and make Dances with Wolves. That's kind of what it feels like. He's making this deathly serious version of and almost this ridiculous, like over thought out idealized future or, or like dystopian future really.

And it's like, so yeah, you're, you're almost putting too much thought or you're trying to take it up to this, like, you know, almost art film level of this idea. That's probably more of a B movie idea. So yeah, I think he just doesn't, he doesn't seem like he's rooted in that kind of stuff that he was doing there. It's like, at least, you know, water world feels like he didn't have anything to do with it. Really.

He feels like he showed up on set for that. Yeah. And that's probably why at least it works on a fun level because, you know, the director was just like, who cares? We're going to blow stuff up. Dennis Hopper on Shaved Head and Eyepatch.

See, I like him in that one. I mean, I'm not saying he is, but just overall, this should be better. Yeah, I mean. More stuff like this. It should be like crazy over the top.

Like, you know, remind me of like a modern pirate thing. I want to see more of that. I'm just, this is just kind of like. Yeah. Oh, you're dull.

I mean, that's the thing. The scenes with him are fantastic. funny like just him down in the the bottom of that ship and like him like just yelling at his crew members and like that's all hilarious but then you get to those stretches of kevin costner talking i'm just like oh who cares no more of this backstory about the kid's tattoo we don't care just you know we just need dennis hopper with an eye patch that's all we need with an eye patch like mounted on his face that's all we want oh man so yeah you never know what you're gonna come out with with some of these things but oh yeah i guess bring it back around to tremors it is a It is a fun movie, and yeah, it is one of those sort of returning to the old genre movies, but done in a different, you know, sort of 90s style way.

A really well done update without being campy, or just being a really boring retread. And kind of what we'd said with the, you know, kind of the Ed Wood thing of making use of what you've got. Like we'd said, it's not a huge budget, but I don't think they did it smart where it's like you don't ever really see the limitations. They, you know, especially with something like, you know, along with the Jaws idea. I mean, the reason that movie works so well is you don't see the shark 90% of the time.

Right. And it's like they realize that. They're like, well, all we have to do is, you know, find a good way to make these scenes work where you see the creature. Right. The rest of the time, you know, you've just got to find some way to make the dirt move or make the car, you know, jump up in the air.

It's like they were really smart about the way that they worked around, you know, not showing the creature the whole time. Yeah, I love the build-up to suspense because so many of the movies now, the monster's there, full frontal, boom. I see too much of it too quick. Again. I like, give me, tease me with it, get me up to the, you know, I love that.

And the fact, you know, the guy up on the tower. The tower. He's starved to death, afraid to come down. at the sheep he just said oh the guy what's going on he's dying to see the monster i'm not you know yeah and i wasn't disappointed either a lot of times you go if i see a monster oh come blood beach was like oh come on this is it yeah you know it just breaks your heart when. You finally see the monster and that's just like good storytelling really i mean that is one of those like you want to have a little build up to it because yeah if you just throw it in there right off the bat it's like Then you've kind of blown your wad. It's like, where do you go with the rest of your movie?

It's like, okay, well, now you've just got to kill another 90 minutes here. So you do. I mean, this one gives you that. That first 20, 30 minutes is just character building. It's just getting to know these two characters as they sit in the truck and they're driving around back and forth and going to these odd jobs and stuff. you get so much character development that then it's like they finally introduce the sci-fi element or the horror element that comes into it.

And by then, you really are kind of invested in these characters. And that's why this is better. I think the first time you see it is now like Kevin Bacon does too, or just like that, and you look and you're like... So you're seeing it when he is, you're both seeing it for the same. And just the reaction is great.

That's exactly how I feel right now. That's great. That's really, that's again, like you say, that's great storytelling. And this was also kind of smart from a monster movie point, because they also have like almost two levels to it. Like you've got the first, when we cross over into that and you get that first 20 minutes of, okay, they're dealing with these little snake creatures and that's the monster.

And then finally we get to this, Oh no, it's not. That's the tip of the iceberg. So yeah, it, That's kind of clever, too, because you almost get an entirely different monster movie for 20 minutes, and then you get into this huge monster that you have to deal with. It's ingenious, too, because it's a really unusual monster. The idea of these small things pulling into the big one.

Wow, I can't. Like a squid about the only thing I gave him a cut. You know what I mean? I can't think of anything good. This is, Oh, this has been done, but Oh, this is new.

Thank you for something new. It's yeah. It's a clever design that they came up with. And, uh, and again, it sort of plays, you say like the tension building, like the whole thing with, just them getting on top of stuff. And it really does.

It, at some point it almost becomes like a siege movie, only it's a siege on the entire town. Like in most of those, you know, it's like a night of living dead or something where, okay, we're stuck in the bunker and yeah, we've got to fight everybody off from outside of the building. But where this, it's like the, you know, the elevation becomes sort of the building where they're, it's kind of cool because they're all scattered on different places, but they're all like on top of something. And you've got this entire town kind of under siege by these creatures. And that part sort of builds the tension too, that, they're safe for a minute, but you know, at any given moment, all they have to do is walk on the ground or try to get from here to there and they get taken out.

So it's, yeah, I think it's, it's kind of clever the way it builds the tension by not showing the creature and by setting it up where, you know, they have to be on these structures and anytime they move on the ground, they're going to get taken out. So it's, I think it's just kind of clever the way it goes about, you know, delivering this fairly unique. Yeah. And does it on a pretty modest budget, which again, I think that's probably why I think if you throw, you know, a hundred million dollars at this movie, it's probably going to be unwatchable, but you know, exactly. There'd be so much, okay, this has to be bigger.

We have to have nine of them simultaneously. It's like, you know, you. Watch the new King Kong. I had to have three T-Rexes. Yeah.

One's not enough. And he's swinging and still not trying to extricate himself. He's swinging like he's on a, Like a tire swing trying to bite you when he swings by. What? Really?

The thing about Tremors, like you said, not a big budget, but I never watched the movie on the theater and thought, boy, this looks cheap. Yeah. Again, they're just smart in the way they edit around it and they set up the shots. It's like it's all done really. And again, probably because this is this guy's first movie.

So, I mean, if you gave it to him. Years later, when he's doing Mighty Joe Young, it might have sucked. But I think because he's probably made student films and he's made short films and stuff, so he kind of knows how to shoot. That's something to prove at that point. Yeah, something to prove and how to shoot on a dime.

I will deliver you a great movie for this. Yeah, I think that's probably why this is probably his best movie on the run. City Slickers are probably the best thing on his resume, and that's probably why. They're the first two out of the gate. Put that together, City Slickers.

Yeah. What a. It's such a weird, but again, it's a good comedy. I can see it being well done, but it doesn't seem like the same director. And it certainly doesn't seem like the same director when you look down the line with the rest of his Pluto Nash, for God's sake.

Wow. So, yeah, I guess it is one of those things, kind of catching everybody at the right time. You know, the stars and the director and the effects people. Yeah. And making it before CG had taken hold.

Yeah. I think we, we sort of lucked out with the timing on all of these because yeah, I think it delivers a really good movie. So anything else in wrapping up? No, just, uh, just anybody, I'd really encourage you. If you like that, if you don't think you like this genre, check it out.

Cause it is really, uh, it's not such gory as like, it's a gooey, the monsters get the worst of it. And this, I think, but I mean, I just really think it's a, it's, uh, Hard movie not to like. Yeah, if you like that kind of stuff. One of the genre things that other people look at and they wouldn't. They wouldn't, oh, God, how can you watch this?

That's the stuff I get from people who aren't into this stuff. I don't think you get that from this movie at all. It's got a little more fun appeal, I think, because you get attached to the characters and because it's got the comedic crossover. I think that wins people over some kind. Because you look at something like Shaun of the Dead.

There's people that hate horror movies but will watch that and think it's awesome because it's so funny. And I think you can win people over that are sort of on the fence about horror movies or sci-fi that, if you make a good amount of comedy in there, it sort of like swings it over a little bit. So yeah, I think it's one of those that would bring people in and that wouldn't normally be into that kind of genre movie. Check it out. Definitely watch it again.

Cause again, I hadn't seen it in years and went back and found a lot of things that I'd forgotten were really well done in it. So yep, definitely go back and watch it if you have seen it before, but now we'll wrap up tremors. We will take a break and round out the show here. We killed them. We killed them.

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And now, on with the show. I did a show in Des Moines and I was trying to do like a Monster Bash type show. That type of subject matter. And I invited the publisher editor of Little Shop of Horrors magazine, that British, came out, great guy, took me over to the house, and he says, who else can I talk to about this? He dated, I can't remember which one it was, one of the Hammer women he dated.

I'm like, you are my hero. You are nailing a hammer, babe. How cool is that? Have you seen that book that just came out? It's Hammer Glamour, I think.

Oh, he showed me that. The photo shoots of all of them. It's funny, there's so many that are, but then there's one or two that we're like, oh, she's British. features going on didn't have an orthodontist then either did. She yeah so it's so funny you look back you go like old pictures of bowie like. Oh wow yeah there's sometimes they just say it was and i guess that's actually good like now they over gloss everything yeah.

Everybody looks has this everybody looks. Perfect and yeah it's. So much in lines you know like they're all. Stamped mannequins that's what it's come to I. Like Kate O'Mara was pretty.

Caroline's my favorite. But Ingrid Pitt. Yeah. It was actually about 10 years. She was born in like the 30s.

It's like she was actually older than the others. And another one, Veronica Carlson. I gave me a kiss in the cheek. I gave her a copy. I said, what a nice.

I just, yeah, it's just that made it for me. Yeah, it's interesting to run into these people later. All right, we are back, and that is pretty much it. I guess mostly just wanted to say thank you to Don here for joining me today. Thank you.

This was the most fun afternoon I spent in the room in quite a while. Trust me. That's good to know, because, yeah, most people wouldn't take to sitting around a table and talking about movies forever. So that's when you know you found your geek crowd. There's a hard part.

You've got to get me to leave now. We can sit down and watch a movie. I don't care. I've got a whole list of stuff I still need to sit down and watch, so I'm always up for that. But I also just wanted to tell, where do you want to tell people to get a hold of you if they want to?

DonReese.com. And before you tell me, my website is real bare bones and crappy. A guy built it for me really quick, and I need to find a responsible adultery do it because every time I try to do anything with it, I make it just unreadable. But DonReese.com, my schedule's on there. If you ever want to contact me, There's little things.

Just email me. You can touch me all the time. Or Don at DonReach.com. Love hearing from people. And if I get out your way, I've got a mailing list I'll put you on.

I'll let you know. Are you on the Facebook much? Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm on the Facebook.

I've just, wow. Some people make fun of it. Some people live on it. I'm somewhere in the middle, I guess. There's so many comedian friends of mine.

You know, the guys drop out of the business, they move, and all of a sudden, and you feel bad. You lose touch with people. So that's what I love about it. It's kind of useful. I've met so many friends of friends.

I've met interesting people. Or people I've found, just ran into again and went, oh, I forgot all about it. He's like, look, I ran across people I forgot existed. So, yeah, it's weird that people that turn up on it now. And I'm like, oh.

I guess there was a reason we quit talking. Maybe I'll just see that you're there. Maybe we won't be friends. So, yeah, it's interesting who all, because now the entire world is on there. It's kind of crazy.

So, yeah, just thought I'd throw that out there if you want people to look for you on Facebook and add you. Please do. Yeah, okay. Um, but yeah, other than that, I guess, um, definitely go to your website, check out the dates. Um, I would say anytime you're, you're touring pretty extensively most of the time.

So yeah, I'm on the road about 200 days a year. Jesus. That's a lot to deal with. Yeah. Yeah.

Tell me about it. So yeah, definitely, uh, go look for, uh, Don Reese and your sound. And, uh, I'm sure he'll give you some, some geeky, uh, comedy in there, maybe some regular stuff too, but I'm sure you'll work in some. I'm going to have a DVD, uh, hopefully late this year, early next year, or probably process of getting the artwork together and doing the final editing. So if you've got my list or something, I can let you know when that does come out.

Yeah, we'll definitely send it. We'll get some clips up on a better website. Yeah, send it over. We'll forward it on to people, let them know that it's out there and where to get a hold of it, where to find you. So, yeah, definitely.

But thank you once again for coming and sitting here with us. Thank you. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.

Thanks for listening. Geek feed. I like it. It sounds like a cool dinner for people. The 8th Annual Geek Feed.

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