113.2: Raised on Promises...and Popcorn

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Have you tried the popcorn yet? Yes, I did. Me and Aubrey all the time. Good Lord, I'm getting full. Bacon popcorn.

Bacon popcorn. Bacon popcorn. I made a little damn cookie. Damn, you do like that. God damn, I can't have enough of these fucking cookies.

Here, you want another one? No. I'm taking Wyoming all bad. The bacon is just too confusing for me. The cookie itself is delicious, but the bacon is throwing me off.

Microwave on high power for 1-4 minutes 1-4? That's a huge fucking range in microwave. Time it can burn in 3 seconds that's like an insight table point of time we'll be there between 1 and 5 8. O'clock in the morning and 10.30 at night you just be there. Sure what movie was Alec Baldwin in?

I think it's just because he's hosted before. What movie has he. Not been in? Everybody loves Alan Baldwin at this point. But was he in an Oscar nominated movie?

Except for his daughter. Yeah. Well, he did some fine parenting. I don't know what. You're talking about.

What did he call her? A fucking pig? That's fine parenting. That's fine parenting. By the way, is Back to the Future nominated this year?

Because I might have missed something, but... Yeah. You guys are just going crazy at this point. And out of your way to work in a random movie. Hey, aren't they going to redo this?

Don't say that. No, I thought I heard somewhere they were talking about... They were talking about it a long time. Ago, but. I still think Zac Efron would be great as Marty.

Yeah. Actually, yeah. I don't know if he can do the Marnie thing, though. He's got at least the likable quality of Michael J. Fox, but he might turn out to be an Eric Stoltz.

Right. We need to reshoot this shit. I've liked her. Dresses the most out of anyone so far. Oh, yeah, okay.

She had a red dress on earlier. Are you right? She didn't smile. Ah, there we go. There's the Meg out.

Love that Joker. Love that Joker. Oh, that head's full of. Teeth. As opposed to a mouth, that's not.

Her head is just all full of teeth. I just want to put some on my plate. You can see her wisdom teeth when she smiles. He just looks so dirty all the time and greasy. Like me.

Yeah, he does look greasy. He can't open his eyelids. That's the problem. It's called bacon pop. More than I needed.

I just want a tiny little bit. Wow. This stuff tastes like... No, it smells like it was... It smells like a campfire.

That's how we make it? I know. It smells like a campfire. Yeah, it does smell... It does taste slightly worse.

Right. It's not overpowering. No. Bacon-aise. What?

Yep. Bacon-aise. Bacon ranch. Big insult. Do you, like, direction?

No, it's different things you can buy. How come guys always gotta wear tuxedos to these things? I don't get that. You see a fucking sea of tuxedos, but the chicks get to wear different dresses and shit. Why can't guys wear different types of tuxedos?

I get to wear different tuxedos. Huh? I get to do different tuxedos. They can wear tuxedos if they want. They did, actually.

It was Trey Parker who matched them. He wore the Jennifer Lopez dress. And you'll notice you never saw that on the episode. No. Really?

No. Oh yeah they totally. Cut them out they want to keep the Oscars classy. I know but I was just like that's why I wish they would have won that year because they couldn't have taken it out like they cut them out of all the red carpet stuff but I'm like if they would have had to go on stage you guys would have been fucked. What year was that when they won for orgasm no.

They would have cut it out no that was for South Park doesn't work yeah well I like the bacon popcorn man it tastes pretty. Good it's not bad yeah If I hadn't had so much meat tonight, it probably would have been pretty good. I want jalapeno popcorn. Okay, Selina. I made some the other night.

That's our pickle, actually. He wouldn't use the pickle juice, but he did. Do the hot sauce. No, I don't usually use the pickle juice. I use the hot sauce.

I should have got Ricky Gervais to toast this. Wizard of Oz? Wizard of Oz was 39, so yeah. Oh, is that what that movie is? I don't know what it is.

I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I think it's James Franco supposed to be playing the wizard from what I hear now. What? Huh?

What are you talking about? Wizard of Oz. What about Wizard of Oz? Franco's supposed to be playing the wizard. They're remaking Wizard of Oz?

Yep. What the fuck's all that shit? What? No, I'm kidding. Nobody wants to see a Wizard of Oz remake.

What the fuck's up with that shit? It's going to be terrible. As long as Tim Burton doesn't get it. Oh, God. Oh, that would be bad.

I think he probably will, too. I think one of the two, there's at least two of them going right now. I think one of them they were trying to get. Oh, you know Tim Burton wants that so bad. He's got a heart on it for that fucking movie.

Johnny Depp would be the scarecrow. Yeah. No, I think he'd be the Tin Man. He'd be every character. Yeah, he'd be all three.

He might be Dorothy. He'd be a flying monkey. No, he'd be a homewrecker. You were there, and you were there. Three at a time.

I know I'm 50, but I'm going to be Dorothy. You thought Judy Garland was a stretch for a little girl. Good Lord. Is that Yoda? The white Yoda.

The Yoda. Wait, isn't that guy dead? I thought we already lost him. Wasn't he in the montage last year? He came back.

That's impressive. It's like his face is burned off in a fire. You know, don't parade yourself out there if you can barely do it. He's got dollsy Mary Loves. I bet if that's what his earlobes look like, imagine what his.

Balls look like. Let's just leave it at that because I don't want to find out. I just need myself in the balls. That happens. So obviously, we are still here watching the Oscars and making our snarky comments as always.

So welcome back to Movie Meltdown's Oscar Meltdown 3D. Once again, I am Brian. I am still Misty and still awesome. I'm Jay. I'm Greg and I'm slightly less awesome.

I've had more pork fries. I'm greasier. I'm Marlena and I'm sweating pork through my pores. Oh, we just, you know, busted into the microwave popcorn pork flavored. We've got our bacon flavored microwave popcorn and we're, you know, we're ready to go.

Bacon cookies. Bacon cookies and, yeah, so it's, you know, it's a bacon festival as... Well, as we expected going into this. It's a porcupalooza. Do people still have their 3D glasses on?

Oh, you know. Don't take them off. They've had them on a week. You've been going to work with them on a week. You've been driving with them and people are like, what the fuck are you doing?

They told me I couldn't take them off until the end of the show. You can't name us in the police report from the accident. There were voices in my head and they said to wear these glasses. So, yeah. Please continue to wear your glasses throughout the rest of this episode.

Forever. And possibly forever. That's questionable. It's time for Sofa Theater. You know, I've always been known for showing you well, lots of things.

Anyway, I'm also famous for showing you really bad movies. You know, the Cram de la Crap. But today, I'm proud to present a film written and directed by one of the greatest filmmakers of all time. See if you can guess who it is. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.

Now, this is ridiculous. No, no. Okay, here's another one. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You're all being ridiculous.

Well, excuse me, lady wet blanket. Okay, last clue. Fredo, you broke my heart. Come back. Come back.

I'll tell you. It's Francis Ford Coppola. I am so excited. I wonder which one of his classic hits we're going to see tonight. The Godfather?

Godfather 2? Apocalypse Now? Dementia 13? Ah, yes. That was a sad thing, that one.

Oh, yeah. You're telling me. Boy, it was almost as bad as The Godfather 3. I mean, even I have to draw the line somewhere. Alright, we're talking about the movie now.

Hush up, sir. What movie? Dementia 13. Oh, when I slept through? Yeah, I know.

You were snoring like a crazy cat. Hell yeah, I was fucking tired. You stay up for days playing fucking Castlevania, but God forbid you stay up for, according to my. DVD cases, an hour. Alright, so we are back with this week's Sova Theater.

This week's Oscar Meltdown edition of the Sova Theater, we will be discussing Dementia 13. The year is 1963. The director, Francis Ford Coppola. Misty, do you prefer your back-of-the-box description? I don't know.

This one, it's equally as lengthy and, I don't know, go ahead and go for that one. You want me to read mine? Yeah. Oh, I gotta read? We're going with the ghetto, was it Big Lots, you said?

I'm pretty sure it's the Dollar Tree. Oh, Dollar Tree, even better. This is obviously the highest quality film. So why is it, it tells you the movie's. Only 60 minutes.

Which it's not, by the way. It says this DVD is compatible with all DVD. Players, though. Good to know. All right, are we ready for Dimension 13, the breakdown?

All right. Each year, a dysfunctional woman, Lady Halloran, calls her family together to mourn over the death of her young daughter, Kathleen, who drowned in L.A. Seven years earlier. Meanwhile, this morbid ceremonial becomes problematic when a stranger begins hacking family members one by one with an axe. Follow this horror thriller as all the clues begin to lead them to Kathleen's watery grave.

Dun dun dun. Which one is the killer? Oh, with that spoiler alert. I'm pretty sure it wasn't her because when she's the first one to die. Now you really spoil it.

No, we know who the first one to die is in the first five minutes of the movie. Well, she's the second one to die. Well, I just loved the opening. I loved how He's dying, having a heart attack, and he's laughing at her because she's not going to be in the world. I was like, maybe this is going to be a good movie.

He's dying and laughing at his wife for being a bitch. He's taunting her. It's like, get me back. You're not going to get any money. He's just playing with her as she's rowing a boat.

And it went down from there. For me, at least. And that's the only movie that I watched. So it was pretty good to you yeah it was good for me I was awake. For the very beginning and awake for the very end she kept elbowing me I was really tired you.

Know You're exhausted from your many journeys in Pennsylvania. What the hell is this? He's going to break his little people arms off. Who is this old guy? Isn't that Kirk?

It's Douglas. Is it? Yeah. It looks like it used to be Kirk Douglas. He's a decomposed Kirk Douglas.

It's a shame because he was awesome back in the day. Don't give it to Helen. Helen O'Connor? Oh my God. Give it to the little girl.

She's cute. Yeah. He probably can't even read it. Oh, my God. You guys should hear him talk now.

God. I can't even tell who it is. Oh, Kirk Douglas got old. A long time ago. Yeah.

What? I think he said. Oh, yeah. I thought he said Homewrecker. It's not Homewrecker or The Little Girl, so whatever.

Hey, all right. Who's that lady? Is it from. Yeah, from The Fighter. Yeah.

From when I hear you did a good job, but we've got a movie to talk about soon. We don't watch real movies. We don't watch real movies. We watch movies from 1963 about people getting hacked up with an axe. All right.

Yeah. I didn't hate this movie. I guess I don't know why I didn't hate this movie. No, I really kind of liked it. Did people hate it?

Because from what I saw... They hated it. Oh, really? There was a whole lot of it that I hated. It's bad enough for Elvira to deem like...

Worthy to make fun of. Yeah, based on our little intro there, Elvira's not thrilled with it. For once, I kind of disagree with Elvira. I didn't think it was that bad. I thought it seemed like Make Me a Psycho.

Okay, I was going to ask that. Did anybody else get that on their own? It seemed like that. Because it was one of those, I got midway into it, and I hadn't really, again, I knew of it for years, and I was meant to watch it, but I hadn't really watched it or seen much on it. And got midway into it, and that's what I was...

Like, it just occurred to me all on my own, this is kind of a psycho-like structure to the plot. And then when I went online, it's like, just to get the info on it, it was like, everybody was like, oh, it's a psycho ripoff! And that's, like, all they talked about. And I was like, well... I mean, I feel like.

I see that. I can see that. I feel like if it were going to be a psycho ripoff, it'd be a lot closer to the plot of Psycho. Yeah. Because he was dressing up like his sister.

Yeah. Well, but see, you know, it's the mother... Is the mother insane? It's this... There's a family problem.

There's the son that's, you know, the crazy one that seemed like he might have had it put together. the actress that dies, you think this is the lead actress that dies halfway through the movie. That's what I was thinking. And that's what did it for me. That was like the structure of the story. After that, it changes.

But to me, yeah, that whole first part, it starts off with this woman. She commits this questionable act, not really evil in either of the stories. I mean, she just makes a bad judgment call, basically. And then she enters into this other situation where And there she's kind of got to deal with other people that somebody turns out to be even crazier, you know. She enters into this weird, questionable situation, and then she finds people that are, like, even more sinister than her, and she becomes the victim.

Spoiler alert. Mother's probably waiting. Is Richard ready for the ceremony? I don't know. I think he's in his studio.

He said he had a sudden inspiration. Something about wanting to finish a statue before. All right, Simon, I've seen you. Come out of there now. I give up.

You caught me fair and square, Master Billy. I give me self up. So, it's poaching again, are you, Simon? Well, let me tell you, you just about scared the wits out of poor Miss Kane here. Shame on you, Simon.

Shame on you. It was only old Bushy Taylor, Master. Me a soul rot. I swear by the shade of Finn the Cool, Master Billy, I'm not poaching your legal game. No, it was only that no-good rabbit-stealing fox what brings me here.

Please, Master Billy. For the memory of your late great father, God rest his soul. Don't turn me over to the bulls. They just spend so much time on... Since everybody else sounds like they kind of liked it, things that bothered me is they spent so much time on a short movie...

Like the hunter that was trying to figure out what was in the woods. There was a really bad Scottish or Ireland, whatever. Right, Irish accent. First of all, no one in this movie was Irish and they were supposed to be in Ireland. That fucking bothered me.

That's fun. You couldn't see anything. I mean, I know it's produced by Roger Corman. But you spent five minutes on this guy crawling through the woods trying to figure out what this is. And it really went nowhere.

That whole scene, there was no reason for it. Or the old man washing the car. I don't know. There was so much. I was like, is this filler?

Does somebody not know how to write? So, yeah, I hated it. Well, I'm pretty sure the only reason they shot it there was because wasn't that where... Roger Corman was already shooting a movie and he produced this one. That's pretty much how most of his shoots went.

I forget what movie he was shooting at the time, but he let Francis Ford Coppola use half of his cast. So it's like in between breaks of the movie that. Was it The Terror? Because both the guys on this are also questionably credited as directing and or creating The Terror. Which is another one of those that got shot because they had three extra days on a set.

And they were just like, here, go to town. So... That's just kind of how Corman operates, which... Yeah. One thing I found interesting about this movie is that it's, like, 75% internal monologue, which is just, like, not a lot of movies do that, so it was very weird.

And it was interesting. It wasn't extremely fascinating in this movie's case, but, I mean, I think in a different, better, more, like, better written movie, it could be really... Her cleavage is very distracting. Yeah, it is. Wait, who is this?

Is this a... It's like a... Oh, yeah, Mila. It's a cruise ship kind of cleavage. Cleavage is a cruise ship.

She's got big flower-shaped nipples trying to escape from her. Like that that's What did they say on Signing Out Live? I'm Mila Herkoudis. Classy. Yeah, it is classy.

Right up our alley. I'll pack the things he would have taken. A suit. Some shirts. I've finally rid of him.

I know I can handle his mother without him around. I know I can handle his mother without him around. She's half crazy anyway. I can get rid of her, one way or the other. I'd better watch out for his brothers, though.

Especially the older one, Richard. So, you're talking about the internal monologue on the blonde chick? Everybody. Even the mother has it. See, that's what I was thinking.

It's weird that it jumps character. Usually you get that with one character throughout the movie, or like a... faceless voiceover that kind of wraps things up or something. But to be in the head of different people in the same movie is kind of weird, actually. Right. I don't think you ever get in the head of the brothers.

No. Yeah, just the women. And the doctor, maybe? I can't remember if the doctor. Yeah, he was...

Usually everybody likes him from what I've seen. He's like the big name in it. I mean, he's also in Clockwork Orange. So he's kind of their big star, I guess, if you want to call it. I don't know.

William Campbell was in a lot of stuff, too. Yeah, he. I don't know. He did a little bit of overacting. Yeah.

See, that's what I thought. Everybody really liked him. I was like, he's kind of overselling this crazy doctor thing. I really... Yeah, I like the brothers.

I thought both the brothers, especially the younger one. I think the younger one definitely.... Billy. Yeah, Billy is the sort of messed up kid. See, I paid attention to you.

I said wait. Oh, wait, wait. You can do that on movies? I watch mine online. You can watch it on YouTube.

And I fell asleep during the commercial. That's how tired I was. So, the 15-second commercial. Well, I don't know. I think what works... on this is mostly, and maybe some of it stems from it just being super low budget, but I think it almost works to its advantage.

Just again, it's an atmosphere thing. I think it's kind of creepy. Some of it is hard to see, but again, when you're dealing with the limited budget that they were, that doesn't surprise me. And a lot of night shoots, which is usually a bad idea when you've got limited budget, but still, I think it comes through as this really atmospheric kind of thing. I think it, which works with, you know, the location and, I think a lot of that is the visual stuff is kind of what works.

And I think you can actually see it being Coppola. It's like you can actually see, especially for this, it's, again, arguable whether this is his first movie. This is certainly one of his first movies. And for it to be this early in his career, you can already see how well he can just stage shots. I mean, just basic stuff like the way that he sets up a scene or the way that he puts things in frame is already kind of, pretty impressive for somebody as early on as he was in his career.

It doesn't feel like somebody stumbling through a shoot. It already feels like somebody who's at least done enough to know basic setup, and on top of that has some creative stuff along the way. Yeah, and that first scene when he's On top of the dock. Yeah. That's what I was going to say.

You know, there's no other place. You know, why would you think to shoot that up there? Yeah. That's a pretty good shot. Yeah.

I had high hopes for the movie going into that. Yeah. That's interesting. And the underwater shots were ones that I did like. Because you could see, you know, you're not going to be able to see underwater at night.

But you could see enough and there was enough lighting there. other than I couldn't figure out what she saw. That was my problem. I was like, oh, there's this big reveal, big shock, but you can't figure out what she's seen. I kind of saw what it was, but I wasn't sure if there was something else going on that she was so freaked out by, which, as it turns out, I guess not. They made it seem like there was, the way they presented.

It, but. That was one of the things I was going to mention, too, is the fact that they had underwater shots. I mean, in something this low budget, and again, being a director who barely knows what the hell they're doing, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be shooting underwater shots, especially in my first movie. I don't know. She saw the girl under the water.

I thought that was why she got so freaked out. Yeah, I think that's what it was. Was it the girl? Well, I mean, it's the tomb. It's her little headstone.

No, it's the tombstone, but I thought the doll looked like the girl. I think so. Yeah. I thought she saw the girl. Okay, that would make more sense.

But it was also kind of moving, too. I think that was the water, but it kind of looked very zombie-like that first time I saw it, which matched her freaking out. It had a weird, creepy busting on out of the tombstone there, so I don't know. I wonder if Tom Petty liked this movie. There's a line in it, in one of his songs.

What? He was talking about the girl that they brought down, and she's like, especially with an American girl, you can tell she was raised on promises. Yeah, I do. Remember that now. Yeah, that's right.

I thought it was Last Dance with Mary Jean. That's all about a dead blonde. Girl, isn't it? Right. Maybe he took it.

Maybe he loves this movie and all of his songs are based on this movie. That line was pretty much ripped right out of that movie. Yeah, yeah. So I'm a completely random thing. She was just thinking on a higher level than we are right now.

As I watched it, I'm like, oh my god! She turned to me and goes... She goes, isn't that Tom Petty? And I was like. You're like, what?

You're like.... I had to wake him up. I did that once. I was watching Holy Mountain, and there's a comic that they put out on one of the random pieces in that movie, which is the whole movie, but it's called Against the Peruvian Monster, and I started screaming, that's a Man Man song! That's a Man Man song!

No one knew who Man Man was other than. Me, so. Where are we? I was watching it at a friend's house. No one knew who Man-Man was.

Man-Man's pretty cool. I know. I've listened to a lot of their stuff. Yeah, they're really good. I like them.

All right. Tom Petty liked this movie. What else? Tom Petty liked this movie. I have to be.

You know, another thing that bothered me, and this is a really little thing, and this must be a budget thing, but it described the ceremony that they have every year for the Daughters. and the black umbrellas that they have to have, and one of the fucking umbrellas is white, I'm like, you know, really, if you're writing it into the script that it has to be black umbrellas, at least make it black. And it's not like it was like 50 black umbrellas. You only had to come up with three. Come on, Frances. Borrow one from someone.

The part I was awake for, too, is. Like she passes out. They know she's going. To pass out. They know she's going to pass out.

Why do they fucking pass out? I'm like, surprise. You have to catch her ass. You have to catch her. Because they're fucking tired of catching her.

Every damn year she passes out. Oh, there goes mom. Overdramatic. That's why she doesn't want to give them any money from the will if they won't catch her ass. They won't catch her.

Six years now. Well, she's passed out. She doesn't know they're not catching her. I caught you. I had to lay you on the ground.

I just kept, I saw it lead up to that and I was like, wait for it. Wait for it. Bam. There she goes. Yeah.

Oh, man. Yeah. And then I fell asleep. And then I elbowed you and then I just gave, I woke you up again when you started snoring. I'm like, if you're not going to stay awake, can you at least not fucking snore, Darian?

I also didn't like the cop out when he went into town and they had one or two guys that could actually sound like an Irish accent. And he goes, well, that's you going to those American schools that you don't sound Irish anymore. I'm like, you don't. Beat it out of you a little after a little education. Once in a year, you still can't speak.

Yeah, sometimes. I've heard better Irish accents than a used car salesman on Channel 41 during St. Paddy's Day. His accent was just, she even pointed out, she was like, is he supposed to be Irish or Scottish? His accent was as fake as his mustache.

It was Irish, right. Yeah. His mustache was ridiculous, too. Yeah. The quarter vending machine.

Yeah. Oh, my mustache last week? That's true. This also had some classy dialogue along the way. I was trying to keep track of some of the really good ones.

Like, if you're going to be my wife, you'll be... Oh, yeah. I wanted to remember that, even. It says, if you're going to be my wife, you'll have to be one of the trusty and silent type. Mm-hmm.

Shut the fuck up, bitch. That's right. Because she said, I thought you were going to work today. You just shut up. I'll do what I want.

Right. And then, like the doctor, he told the woman to, like, hurry up and get her lunch or whatever the fuck he did. And then he said, or I wish five years of spinsterhood on you. I was like, wow. That was harsh.

Right. Isn't it bad enough this chick's a maid? You want to know what part pissed me off? Oh, God. Alright, when the blonde.

Decides she wants to. You know, fuck with people and she takes the little dolls and she ties them to a wrench or whatever. Why didn't she just throw them in the pond? Why did she have to strip down? I think you answered your question right there.

Really, that's just not practical. Just, you know, get a wine and throw them. Like, fling that shit in there. Well, I thought she was trying to keep them underwater. Now what?

She kind of tied them to a wrench. They're going to sink anyway. What killed me is the fact that they just magically popped up at the right time when they were standing on the dock. They were tied in a rope. She put something on the rope to eat through it, whatever that was.

Yeah, I was still trying to figure out what she was doing there and how that was going to work. It was Coppola's first writing job, supposedly, so he. Yeah. He's like, yeah, it's something that eats through it underwater. It's a rope eater.

You buy it at the hardware store. And she timed it so it would pop up at lunch that they were having out there the next day. She planned all this out. She's an evil genius, I tell you. Right, right.

But the fact that she had to strip down. Well, yeah. Once again, I mean, this is a B-movie. They knew what they were bringing in. Her underpants changed colors.

I did notice when she got in the water. I was like, now her panties don't match her bra. They were hyper-colored. They were hyper-colored. Nice.

I don't ever notice things like that. I don't, I didn't notice the, the white umbrella or her black to white. How about the, how about the boom mic dipping into the scene? See, I didn't either. That's the thing.

I was like, you know, I don't notice that a lot of the time, but then, you know, we, we also had a copy of the Elvira version where she stops to point out the fact that the boom mic comes crashing on into the scene. I don't ever notice things like that. Like for instance, the other day, um, I was at work and Indiana Jones happened to be on the TV. Which one? Uh, Temple of Duma thing.

Alright. That's Indiana Jones. When's the new one or anything like that? And... Someone at the bar yells, monkey penis!

And made us rewind. This wasn't you? No, it wasn't me. Made us rewind it and put it in slow motion so you could see the little tip of the monkey's penis. And everyone was chanting, monkey penis!

Monkey penis! It was really weird. Yeah, I'm staying away from your word. That was the special moment. Oh, God.

What kind of pasta do you work that into? What's up with Marky Mark and Hugh Jackman? Wow. Lord. So, I don't know.

I still think it's shot pretty well. I think the shots of the creepy toys, that was like foggy. The monkey with the axe. That was the creepiest part. That's what made me think of Alfred Hitchcock.

That's the first part that I realized that when he's like, hitting the axe, and it's going, dun, dun, you know, the music is falling in line with this. Some of the, some of the soundtrack was very cliche, and I mean, you could tell, it's like, okay, give it your horror soundtrack, and, you know, from the back, in the background, maybe it's cliche, since it's been so long, but it sounded like, the spooky parts of Scooby-Doo, you know, and I, You know, it's the creepy old castle. Yeah. Exactly. So.

What was the room? I mean, the kids' room that she had to crawl up into. What was that about? There were a. Couple rooms like that.

When she went and saw her. when the one girl followed her husband after remember when he started yelling at her. You weren't supposed to follow me yeah i don't know what that one the other one i thought she was like in the attic getting the stuff but yeah the other one i and then like why are they standing there but they don't notice that right the body laying there because if it's the first setup again they're doing the fake out so you almost think they're part of it and they know that she's there but then going back and watch it i'm like They're standing right next to her. It's not even like there's anything blocking it. There's like sheets and stuff thrown around there, but it's not like there's a wall.

It's pretty much within view of where they're standing, but they don't notice this dead girl laying there. I guess they just happen to not look to their left. I guess. Once again, there's a lot of convenient situations that pop up in this movie, but I don't know. I still think it's pretty entertaining for what it is.

I think it definitely, I mean, a lot of people say it is, again, they talk about it constantly ripping off Hitchcock, There's also a lot of William Castle-esque stuff that they sort of steal from. But to me, it's like you've got... How can you really lose out on this? Because you've got not only Coppola directing it, but it's produced by Roger Corman and the assistant and arguably co-creator of this is Jack Hill. So, I mean, you're going in with this drive-in movie dream team here.

So it's like, really, you've got to come out with something that's at least pretty fun. And I felt like it was. I mean, it's... it's definitely a lot, you know, the first half is pretty familiar again, especially three years after psycho. But I think that second half, it sort of comes into its own. And I think it really does sort of do its own thing at that point.

I mean, I can see, I mean, Roger Corman was always one that was like, you know, he knew what he was doing at that point. It's like, he was definitely not much like the William Castle setup. It's like, You can base it on a gimmick. You can go with a poster shot or just a concept of something, and then you base the whole movie around that. But I think what usually put him above– and William Castle made some fun movies.

But what I think Roger Corman would actually then give somebody who had a little talent the reins and let them do something creative with it. And I think this one still has a lot of creative shots to it. I think the last half of the plot– It has moments where it's confusing, but I think in the parts that you do kind of piece together, it's still a little more original, or at least at the time, I could say. Once you get away from the stuff that is stole, the last half of it, the wrap-up of it, is something I don't remember seeing a lot of times at that point. I'm not going to completely panic, because there were moments where I was like, okay, I do want to know who it is.

I had a feeling that it was the younger brother, but. Sorry. We already. Totally spoiled. I was just going to go there anyway.

Because, I mean, it really is like... They do set it up where... I mean... because that's the thing everybody uh in you know reading stuff online everybody's like oh they set it up like it's gonna be the doctor i never for a minute thought it was too obvious that it was gonna be the doctor it was well i mean even in the setup i was like it's got to be one of the brothers you know and and the way they shot it almost made it look like the older brother the whole time so i'm like well they're almost setting it up too easy for it to be right and then he was kind of aggressive and yeah he was aggressive and then they set that thing up the shot of him and her and they're like they'll you know never stop us now and so they really are red herring you on this like older brother so I'm like well I guess then it's probably gonna be the younger brother right you rip off the mask and it's you know yeah the younger brother by then it's not really a shot you crazy kid you know I would've got away with it too yeah.

Um See, one thing, I mean, I kind of stopped paying attention towards the end of the movie. Or towards the middle of the movie. Especially since you reviewed it. Yeah. And did it ever matter that the first brother died?

Did anyone ever notice or care about that? No. No. It doesn't even come up. That's what I was saying.

That's weird that it was such an integral part at the beginning of the movie and you think that's going to lead to something that's going to be this huge part of the plot, but no. Even when they drain the lake, they don't find it, do they? No. They've been eaten by fishes by then. It was only like a day or two.

Was it that lake? I thought it was somewhere else and she drove. Or was it even in America? I was thinking that she went to Ireland to be with his family. See, that's what.

It said online, and it looks like... I was confused. It looks like she was already visiting, because she even says he had to leave. Almost like she's there, and she says, so I'm going to stay for a while since he had to leave. This definitely has some confusing plot points along the way, Francis.

But I don't know. I think it's still... Definitely just kind of creepy and atmospheric. And if you like movies of this era, it's a lot slower paced than most horror movies. Again, it's 1963.

So there you go. And there's no budget. But again, I think them trying to play on that schlocky drive-in movie crowd, they also upped the gore and horror as much as they could for 1963. I mean, we do get a beheading in it. That's true.

A very clean beheading. Yeah. And just a And just merciless axing that we really don't see. But he's just wailing on her by the water there. Then she doesn't seem to be all that messed up as he drags her off.

Right, she had a little bit of blood on her shoulder. But that's still a creepy scene. That shot of him picking her up and dragging her. Well, her hands on the shore. Sorry to interrupt you.

Oh, it's okay. Go ahead. Her hands on the shore, muddy and reaching for it. That was a good shot. Yeah.

So, I mean, there's definitely a lot of redeeming qualities to this movie. It's far from perfect, but... You know, it's right out of the gate for Coppola, so, you know. My favorite part of the whole movie, I think, and this is probably really strange, but when he's dragging her dead body through the woods, it was just so, like, realistic. Like, normally when someone's being dragged, you can tell they're still alive, but she was just so limp and so dead-looking.

And at that moment, I was like, wow, she's a pretty good actress, you know? Or they killed her. Or they really did. Or she was on a lot of drugs. It was the 60s.

Yeah. I think if nothing else, my favorite part probably was just the use of this term, or this phrase, and I really, if nothing else, hope that, you know, much like the hunter out there, this becomes my goal in life. Track down old bushy tail. That's right. And they don't believe there's a bushy tail.

I don't know why that struck me so funny. Old bushy tail. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, that was a dumb. That was what...

It was pointless. I didn't... They pretended like he was an old man, He was 30, probably, with a mustache. He's been here for years. He's the last man in Ireland that still...

No, he's not. No. He doesn't have an Irish accent. I don't know. That's okay.

Maybe it was late and I was tired. That might have been the reason why I really didn't like it. I don't know. I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought. I figured it was going to be super cheap, and I was afraid it wasn't even going to have enough plot to piece something together going into it.

So the fact that it did have some redeeming qualities, and definitely visually it's got a lot to offer, that yeah, I ended up liking it a lot more than kind of expected going in. Wait, why was it called DaVinci 13? That's arguable. Technically, it was just going to be Dementia, and then there was already a movie called Dementia, so they had to slap something on there so they could call it that. I don't know.

Unlucky 13. There's not really any reason. I mean, Dementia, I guess you can come up with some craziness, but, you know. 13, it just got slapped on there so they could have a title and not get into legal trouble or not be able to distribute it. Yeah, you know, stuff like that.

Just like a letter in Part 6. There you go. A letter in Part 6. Man, I hated part 12. Dementia 12 sucked.

I think there's a dessert. There's still dessert. What is it? Pork pie. Mincemeat pie.

It's like mincemeat, but it's barbecued pulled pork. Should we go ahead and leave before dessert? Yeah. Finally, no pastry crack for you. Too bad.

You said you don't want any. More for us. I want pastry crack. I really want pastry crack. Alright, so that pretty much rounds out Dementia 13.

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All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now, on with the show. Matinees, watching all the movies What a year 2010 has been Got to see Mark Wahlberg as a fighter Christian Bale so thin Who can dream, having seen Inception. Only wish it had been 3D What was this for? I don't know.

I still haven't seen that movie. My kid loves that fucking movie. I just can't take her big fucking head. I don't want to look at it for however long she's on screen. Every head is really that big.

It's like Colin Quinn. He died. Colin Quinn died? A couple years ago, didn't he? Really?

That's sad. He does look like Colin Quinn, though. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else. Is he the MTV guy? No, that's Ken Ober.

Ken Ober died, wasn't it? He was on Who's Line Is It Anyway. You're thinking of Colin Lockery. No, I'm talking about Colin Quinn, Saturday Night Live. Oh, yeah.

Remote control. Remote control, exactly. He was a stand-up, and yeah, as far as I know, he's still alive. No, the remote control guy. I thought he died.

Ken Ober died. The host. Yeah. Yeah. He died, which that did suck.

I was confused. I'm sorry. It's okay. But Kari's okay. Thank God.

As long as Kari's okay. Who? The second female dancer. Kari were, yeah. I was a little more partial to Marisol.

I don't know. Marisol was so goth. She was gonna be goth one day. She seemed like a square, really. Really?

I thought she was like, yeah, I could... my hair that's just because she's a slacker it was everybody in MTV at that point I guess so and forever really how's Lisa Marie doing I wonder she got a really cool husband yeah join the convention next month you can ask her I will. Because you know what I think she's pretty hot I think she's pretty awesome what I'm just saying I think she's awesome I don't understand why Tim Burton I mean they seem like a pretty decent couple. Together but you know whatever She should punch. Homewrecker! Yeah, she should get a fight.

Homewrecker's ugly. Okay. Fight him. Bust her up. Yeah.

What was this for? Yay! Who won? Inception won, it looks like. Hey!

Classes don't do you any good when they're on top of your head. Yeah, that's kind of tool-ish. I'll pull them down when I get ready to read my acceptance speech. No, he won't. No.

Oh, yeah. It's like I got shades on. Wally Pfister. At least it's not Willie Pfister. It's his twin brother.

Willie Pfister? Yeah. Holy shit. Is she related to Jay Leno? She's the moon man from the Mac Tonight.

The Mac Tonight. The McDLT. Show our age. I remember that. Wally Pfister, Brian.

What? What's the dude's name? The photographer on Inception. Yeah, he made fun of it. Academy Award winner, Wally Pfister.

Somebody needs to smack his parents. You know, my best friend growing up, his name was Dustin Fist. Isn't that the coolest name ever? No. I like Wally Pfister better.

What was the names from that vampire book you were reading to me last night? Offline, what was that guy's name? I don't remember. Fucking, like, Brock Stonehenge or some bullshit like that. Written by, like, Nina Bangs.

Nina Bangs, yeah. It was some vampire sex book. Basically, it was like, it's like. The old Fabio books. Rafe, it was Rafe.

Rafe, Rafe Finestone or Rafe. Something stone. Cockstone. Right? Cockstone?

I know. Cockstone. I think I've seen those movies, but they're in a special room at the store. Speaking of, last night, I met a woman who writes erotica. For a living.

This isn't just a fan page. Yeah, you're a fan. Yeah. When you tell your kids you do, that's. What I'm like.

I write adult. Stuff. Something. Oh. That's about as bad as us driving that huge sign that's on the side of the road when you're heading up I-65 right when you cross the bridge and you go into Indiana.

And there's the XXX bookstore. Toys! Adult toys. And your kid's like, I don't know. I mean, that's not that kind of toy store.

All right, boys, let me focus. I can't deny the fact that you like me right now. You like me. You can react to something. Can I just say something?

Alrighty. I'm afraid of pigs. I think everyone knows this. I didn't. You didn't?

No. I thought it was butterflies that you were afraid of. I'm afraid of butterflies and moths too. But I'm also very afraid of pigs. I was attacked by a pig once when I was younger.

I don't remember any of this nonsense. And in the. Last year, I don't know what it is, but something rekindled that fear of pigs. So every time I see a pig... Or a statue of a pig, or a picture of a pig, or a cute little piggy bank, or a cute little piggy salt and pepper shaker.

I, like, involuntarily shudder. I just, I do not like pigs. They, I can eat the shit out of some bacon. But a real pig, get it the fuck away from me. Which, she brings this up because what you guys don't know is, as the geek that I am, decided to make a centerpiece, a display, if you will, for our party here.

So I've purchased myself two wooden... Actually, we've decided they're probably resin. But they look like they're wooden carved pigs. And they're sitting here staring at Marlena right now because I stuck them in the center of the table. Yeah, but I covered their disgusting pig faces up in dirty paper towels.

Because I can't bear to look at these gross fucking pigs. But it makes it totally fit the mood because in between them I jammed the Oscar that I won. Mm-hmm. I won that as Best Actor for Maudie in 1955. Everybody knows what won Best Fucking Picture in 1955.

All right, so, well, we've decided to come back, and we've tied Misty and Jay up in the other room, and we're keeping them at bay until they can come back in the second half of the show. What we're going to discuss, last night was the official ceremony for the 31st Annual Golden Raspberry Awards. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I figured usually we do a little recap of the winners slash losers, depending on how you look at it, I suppose.

So just to give you the rundown and see what you guys think, it's pretty much a sweep for two movies. They kind of split it, but it seems to be a running theme here for most of them. Worst picture would be The Last Airbender. Can you argue that really? I've never saw it.

I haven't either, but I know it's, I mean, come on. It's Shyamalan. I actually was interested in seeing it. But obviously I didn't. I mean, again, if there was never a show that they've totally screwed over, it still probably would have been a bad movie.

But knowing how good and respected that show is among geeks that really like that kind of stuff and know that it's actually kind of well written and has a good story arc to it and real characters, and they've totally thrown all that out the window and decided to. Do this, you know, in-night bullshit. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't surprise me at all, so. The worst actor would be Ashton Kutcher.

And I like that they just give you whatever. They're just like, killers, Valentine's Day, fuck, whatever. Right. Demi Moore, whatever Ashton Kutcher was in this year. Whatever, we'll take it.

Whatever he was in. No, I caught that too. I'm like, ew. Not really, apparently, though. Right.

Oh, Worst Actress is a tie. A four-way tie. Wow. Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrall, Kristen Davis, and Cynthia Nixon. Take a wild guess what movie.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty good. I would think that would be the other worst movie. Well, it was in there. It was up there for Worst Picture, but...

Yeah, then we get worse supporting actress, which, again, I like that they just give you the rundown for Jessica Alba. But it's like for a whole slew. It's The Killer Inside Me, Little Fockers, Machete, Valentine's Day. They're like, man, I didn't even realize she worked that much this past year. Her standing on top of the car, what was the line that she delivered?

We didn't cross the line. No, we didn't cross the border. The border. The border crossed us. You know.

Yes, it was a cheesy line, but her delivery was horrible. What's really sad, and I guess more for us, is that's not really her. And that's not even the writing on the movie. That is actually a saying. I mean, granted, they lifted it from a speech, a well-written speech years ago.

But it actually, I think if we looked closer to the border, maybe we'd be familiar with it. Because when I went doing research for Machete, I found out they're... Is, like, this whole group that's, like, really trying to raise awareness of what's going on with the whole government screwing people over on the border. Or, again, that depends on how you look at it, I suppose. But from their perspective, you know, they're looking into what the government's doing.

And that is, like, their motto? Seriously? Like, I. Yeah, I... I mean, they're actually saying it in speeches like that.

They've got it on flyers. I mean, it. I thought it was a bad joke, but sadly, I guess for them, I don't know. It just seems like not really the way to go if you're trying to get serious support for a matter. I don't know, that was kind of silly.

Well, her delivery of it was pitiful. Yeah, well, her delivery a. Lot of the time is pitiful. You're right, you're right. But when you can beat out Cher in burlesque, that's saying something, Jessica, so good going.

We're supporting actor Jackson Rathbone. from The Last Airbender, and or Twilight Saga Eclipse. Yeah, nobody likes that guy either. Right. I do like their categories. Worst eye-gouging misuse of 3D, which would be The Last Airbender, which that's saying something.

If it beat out Clash of the Titans, because Clash of the Titans, from what I hear, was really horrible. Like, just should not have ever even been attempted to be considered 3D. Wow. Yeah. No, I didn't watch it on purpose.

No, maybe. Worst screen couple slash worst screen ensemble. Take a guess. The entire cast of Sex and the City 2. It's a sweep, I'm telling you.

Good. Worst director, again, M. Night Shyamalan, The Last Airbender. Worst screenplay, yep, M. Night Shyamalan.

You know, I don't think that he's necessarily a bad director. He just has really bad ideas and no one telling him no. Yeah. I mean, that's part of it. I think he's still a good director.

It's just he doesn't have good advisors. I think that's what. It's like one of those. That's the thing. I heard a whole interview with him and that's...

He was... totally invested in this like he really thought he was making a great movie with this yeah i don't think he's a hack i don't think he's doing stuff just because it's popular just because it's going to make money right i think he really does go into all these projects with like you know a passion behind it he really thinks he's making a great movie but again i think he's just misguided in his thinking and and there's not anybody there to keep him in check of like uh you really want to do a twist again I won't forgive him for The Happening. I don't think anybody will. I'll watch Lady in the Water. I actually own Lady in the Water, and I'll defend Lady in the Water. I'll write an essay about it.

The Happening is a piece of fucking trash. See, I'm one of the few people I know that likes The Village. I love The Village. I like The Village. I mean, I love The Village.

People hate The Village. That's your prerogative. Go for it. I think there's a lot of good stuff in The Village. I think the twist is pretty damn clever in both of them.

I mean, truthfully, there's one midway through that I think is almost more interesting than the one that comes up at the end. What's the one midway through? The monster's angle? I mean, the fact that it's a monster through the first half of it, and then that part comes up. I thought that part was really cool.

And then you get to the end. And the acting in it is fantastic. I mean, he's got A-list people in charge of this thing. So, I mean, it's like, again... I think up until that point, he was still...

Even Signs, there's a lot of good stuff going on in Signs. The end is stupid. We all know that. But I mean up until the village I think he was still you know it wasn't perfect but he was coming in with some pretty good projects he had to still like what he was doing and at least how much he was bringing to the table each time and then you know. Lady of the Water basically nobody saw I think was half the problem it just went completely under the radar and then you get to the happening and the airbender and Yeah, I mean, he's just steadily slaloming downhill now.

So I don't know what he can do to save his career. Did anybody see the, I know he only produced it, but the Devil movie? I did see that at the drive-ins. It was really terrible. Again, everything I heard about it was like, it's not as bad as most of his movies, but it's still not great.

It was just so far-fetched and stupid. It was just stupid. Okay. I just remember when I saw the first preview for that and it said, from the mind of M. Night Shyamalan and everyone in the theater laughed.

That was the part where I was like, you knew he'd jump the. Shark, but that's really bad when people laugh. When normal people see it, they're going to laugh. Yeah, regular. Not even like geeks that listen to podcasts, because we make fun of a lot of people.

And it's usually those same people over and over again because they keep doing just crap. It's like there's only so many times I can make fun of Nicolas Cage, but you know what? We still laugh every time because he's always doing crap and it's always funny. Except every once in a while when he does a good role, but that's a weird phenomenon really. So, yeah, Dry Vanigree, I'm probably going to go laugh at it.

I still sort of want to see it. But it's got... It's got hot chicken in it. Yeah. It has Mandy Lane.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. And, I mean, again, I almost would see it for the 3D, as much as 3D has sucked on everything up until this point. It's made by the director who did My Bloody Valentine, which to me is still possibly the best 3D feature I've seen.

Mm-hmm. I mean, granted. That was like, there was so much hype with that. I mean, that brought 3D back. It really, I mean, and it was the first one, really.

It was the first one out of the gate. It was out well before Avatar. I mean, to me, and I, granted, everybody loved Avatar. I avoided that one, really. But, I mean, of everything else that I've seen over this time, I still think My Bloody Valentine was the most impressive.

So, I mean, as far as animated, Coraline still was pretty cool. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, I think as far as live-action stuff, My Bloody Valentine was the best. And this is the same guy. So, I mean, almost for the 3D technology, I would almost go see it for that.

Again, I don't know if I will because I don't have any money. Is that Mandy Moore singing? Who is that? I don't know who that is. I don't know.

It looks like Mandy Moore. I think it is. I mean, she's in that movie. What movie? Tangle is nominated.

Oh, yeah, it's Tangle. That's the dude from Chuck, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's Chuck. I think it is.

You almost forget that Mandy Moore was a singer. I know, you do. She has been acting for quite a while now. I have a lot more respect for Mandy Moore than I do anybody of that time period because maybe she didn't get as popular, but she never became, she never sold out. She never became a slut.

She was never, yeah, she was never hoary. I mean, they definitely used her sexuality and the fact that she was like 16 that first, actually she was 15 that first album. So they, but again, you can tell that first album of hers was nothing but corporate pushed bullshit. Like it was all, songs that they handed her that she had nothing to do with, but you go back a couple years later, she wrote everything. I mean, that's the other thing I give her credit.

How much did Britney ever write? And what did sucked was she was actually a decent songwriter by the time she was, you know, 18. I just think that. Uh-huh. He's hitting that later.

Don't tell her rock star husband. He's her rock star husband. And he's writing it. I don't know. I think you're right.

Fuck that guy. Well, she was dating Wilmer Valderrama. Yeah, I do question it. Anything is a step up from that. The best option was her tennis boy.

I don't even remember what his name was, but at least he was sort of, you know, he was your tennis stud. I can give her that one. They were sort of along the same lines, but Wilmer, what the fuck? That guy's a chump. I think he's like... the joke of Hollywood at this point.

And he's, that's the thing. I would, I mean, if he's handy Manny, but, but no, that's what kills. Me is he, he's also a douche bag. Like at least if he was like kind of cool, but there was somebody, I was heard somebody that was like a, like did like a bit role on that 70s show. And he was like a jackass to it.

I'm like, in that crew, you know, if Ashton Kutcher's being cool to people and you're being a douchebag, I mean, think about that. It's like, how the fuck is that? It's like, Mila's going to turn around and turn in a real Oscar-caliber career now. Yeah, you're a joke. And Topher Grace is in that new horrible 80s bullshit.

So yeah, to round out the Razzies here, which we got sidetracked on, I have Again, I just love their categories. Worst prequel, remake, rip-off, or sequel. Once again, to round it out, Sex and the City 2. Sort of a two-way street. Avatar and Sex and the City.

Airbender and Sex and the City. And Sex and the City made so much money. But everybody hated it. Even people who were fans of the show were like, yeah, this was terrible. But you gave it how much fucking money?

Oh, Lord. My wife liking something like that would be grounds for divorce. I would divorce her over almost nothing. There's hardly anything, but that would be... There's some things I just can't look past.

I don't understand why Adrian Brody is doing the Stella R12 commercial. Because they gave him money? Yeah, but it's not like he's out of work. He's not exactly out of work. That's why they want him to.

But he's doing Predators and Slither. Or Splice. Splice. Yeah, not the other one. Sure, I guess.

But still. Still, think about what that check was. I mean, didn't he win an Oscar once? Yeah. That was years ago.

They only last for about a year or two. Yeah, really. He did Devils 2. Right. So true.

He could be, like, the next big B actor after doing Predators and... Could be. I mean, he'd need one or two more, and he could be a big-budget B-actor. I mean, I think Predators was still high-profile enough. I mean, Splice just, again, was another one that was totally under the radar.

Like, it got a decent opening. I mean, somehow the studio got it into a lot of theaters, but, I mean, it didn't make much money, and people really didn't pay that much attention. I mean, it's just once it hit DVD, people finally started watching it, but... Yeah, I don't know. I think he's still just such a recognizable name at this point.

Right. He's okay for a little while. Well, I mean, I'm saying in a good way. Yeah. He could go to those roles.

He does those roles pretty well. He brings a lot more to them. Yeah. I think both of those are good examples. I mean, I think he's really good in both of those movies in a role that could have easily gone at least generic, if not just really dumb and bad.

And I think he brings a lot to them. I really liked Predators. I mean. If you don't expect a whole lot out of it, you really get a lot out of it. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of fun.

And again, I think he and the main girl, there actually is a decent amount of character in something that you would expect no character in. Right. Yeah, I think they actually do something useful with it. All right, so we've yammered on so much, I don't even want to go into the whole buzz, but I did see this one story, and I thought, well, I'd bring it up for two reasons. One, I know, Greg, at least you're a big fan of this guy, and he's been a guest on the show briefly, so I thought we'd bring that up.

And second, because it means I get to mention Michael Bay. And more importantly, it's an excuse for me to play our theme any time we mention it. Michael Bay sucks. Okay, so. Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes Production Company, best known for their cheesy horror remakes and all that bullshit we've made fun of a couple of times now, has acquired the rights to the IDW comic book series Zombies vs.

Robots. Oh, nice. The deal includes a script based on a comic called Inherit the Earth, possibly a working or subtitle, by J.T. Petty, whose previous work we watched the 2008 direct-to-video title The Burrowers. and is actually a pretty talented guy. If you go look at his short films and stuff, he's done some good stuff.

So I'm definitely a big fan of what he's done so far and want to see where he's going. It worries me that he's possibly involved with Michael Bay. Possibly. But, and the story sounds, the comic book is about a young girl who is the last survivor of a zombie apocalypse with a group of robots protecting her from a new pack of zombies that have evolved and are now intelligent. this could all be fun in like a B movie kind of way. I mean, if you work it right, this could be a hell, especially with him directing.

It's like, this could be a hell of a movie. Michael Bay worries me, you know, it's like there's, yeah, I don't know what else to do. You know, Gigi Petty, he already took something, the horror movie in the wild west. I'd never seen anything really like that before. And I thought this isn't going to work.

And I thought, I even thought the first time I sat down to watch, I was like, This is. Probably going to suck. And I was impressed. It was tense. The lighting was taking...

The acting was good. The editing was good. You could tell he just cared about that movie. And again, on a very modest budget. And it looks really good for that budget.

And it's not going to... to be mass appeal kind of a movie, but it's definitely a good movie. And any kind of horror fan should see that movie, I think. And anybody that likes movies, because after your interview with him, you can just, and this is the fan of me talking now, moving now down to You can just tell that he is just the guy that likes to sit down and talk movies. And I appreciated that more than anything. And I would love if he was just sitting here and we could just get his take on movies sometimes.

That's the kind of guy we want, you know, or you'd want on a show like this. So I'd listen to him do interviews all the time. That was the thing. He was just relaxed. I mean, he's in the middle of his big premiere, really, for this movie and was just kind of hanging out and talking to the guy who co-starred in the movie.

He was just really relaxed and really down to earth. And it was, again, it was a really good interview. And I think he just seems like a really good guy. And, again, if he's got upcoming projects, I'd like to get a hold of him again. I really would like to talk to him on this one.

And just, again, he should just come hang out with us. And just, you know, Petty and Jennifer Lawrence, we're all going to go hang out and get coffee and talk. Movies, you know. And if he. Cares about movies as much as he sounded as though he cares about movies it'll be good either way i think he'll do a good.

Job i think so i mean i think he is really like very level-headed it's like everything he talked about was was really smart but at the same time He's I mean, you look back at some of the stuff he's done and even he kind of looks at it very realistically. Like, I mean, he knew going in, he's like, well, you know, they gave me these options of movies to make. You know, I went with what I thought would be the best movie. You know, he's realistic about it, but at the same time, always trying to get the best out of what he's working with. And I think, yeah, he's I just I'm interested in seeing where this goes.

So. What does Oprah have to do with the Oscars? She's got a billion dollars. Uma, Oprah. There you go.

See, I didn't even have to. Do it this year. Oh, Lord. That was at your first meet, at your first one. Wasn't it?

I think it was just last year, wasn't it? No, I meant at your first... Or the very first was that year, actually. Yes, it was. Because I remember thinking...

I thought it was hilarious. I love when David and I are. Uma Thurman was sitting over on one side and Oprah Winfrey was sitting on the. Other side and he kept introducing them. He was going, Uma, Oprah, Oprah, Uma.

And he did it, I don't know, 15 times. I mean, it's a Letterman joke. I mean, if you watch him, he does that stuff all the time and it was funny. But, like, he's in the middle of the Oscars and the Oscar crowd isn't a Letterman crowd. They don't get it.

The producers obviously don't get it. I don't know if they've ever even watched Letterman. So, I mean, it's like. They would cut back from the presentation, and he would just, Oprah. And then they were up in a studio somewhere pulling their hair out.

He was driving them crazy. And the Oscar goes to. Inside Job Trolls. Oh, wow. That was that one I heard was one of those that just makes you angry.

I mean, but like if Banksy had won, who would have accepted the offer? That's kind of why I was hoping he would win. I just wanted to see what would happen. Something would have to happen. Even if he didn't go up there, which we're all pretty sure he did.

I still think it would have been funny if he went up there with the monkey mask on. Right. But I doubt that would have happened because that still would put him in danger if in fact it was him. Yeah. Right.

Well, I think there's a lot of that crowd that would resent somebody like him. Oh, yeah. I can see them not. But it's funny that I think this is still, like, the biggest thing that got, I mean, it got probably more views than anything on that list. Right.

I think it, you know. I don't know, Inside Job got a lot of press and stuff. And Mr. Brainwash, yes, accepting would have been pretty awesome. Oh, that would have been funny.

You could have gone with your mustache. That's right. I bet that would have been who accepted. Probably accepted. Did you see the thing that Randy posted on the movie Meltdown page?

I didn't watch that, no. Well, it's actually like, I just read through the story, and it's basically like guys that worked at galleries that knew Mr. Brainwash as Mr. Brainwash and knew him as a guy back in the day when he was hanging around with all these artists. According to this, again, everything is. questionable everything is you know completely like.

If we knew anyone who had ever lived in la they could probably validate whether or not. It's some but even then i mean so much of this is is doctored you know but so much of it very potentially could be fake it could have been in you know something at play for years people. Would remember the big graffiti art of him him with the camera yeah. Again that stuff comes and goes pretty quickly I mean I don't know there's so much of it that's up in the air and again what's awesome about that movie you know it's just the fact that no matter how many and that's what I said when Randy Posey was like before you guys watch it and I was like well technically we already had that discussion but I was like number one that's kind of interesting number two it just poses more questions really I was like it doesn't change anything we said in fact it kind of makes it even more interesting now so yeah I don't know I thought that was that was interesting.

It's fascinating if it's real. It's even more fascinating if it's fake. So I can care less. Either way, I mean, it just kind of works regardless. I mean, I think, you know, the movie works on its own, and I think all these other layers of questions makes it more interesting, and it's probably why.

Like I said, it probably got at least one of the, you know, most viewed movies of the year as far as documentaries go. Mm-hmm. I think that's why. I think if it didn't have that question around it, not that many people probably would have seen. If it wasn't the Banksy movie, if it didn't have all these controversy of was it real, was it not, is there a Mr.

Brainwash, any of that. How many people go see documentaries about art? Not that many people. If it didn't have all that, it probably wouldn't have gotten all this attention. On top of that, I'm just pleased that there are that good documentaries out there and that.

People are paying that much attention to them too. Because that's what I learned more from good documentaries than just about anything. And I think they're finally starting to get a little bit of respect. I think, I mean, people have been making documentaries since film began, but it's like they have been, you know, completely pushed out of the way by super giant Hollywood projects. And I think these last four or five years, it's sort of stepped it up a notch and like people are actually watching the movies that are, you know, nominated for best documentary and they're, getting them out there in a much bigger fashion.

They're sending them out as, like, film festivals and stuff. They're really piecing them together and really promoting them once they get to the point of being nominated. So I think it's starting to push its way through, and I think it actually is going to become, maybe not ever get to the level of the, you know, best picture, but I think it's getting close. I think it's getting to be a real, you know, it's always been respected, you know, section of film. Right.

It's starting to be taken seriously in that realm that the feature films are. Is this the death part? That's my favorite part of the Oscars. Damn, let's see. Where they elect an old actor to die.

It's like Logan's run. Sorry, your time's up, buddy. Take off. You've got half an hour, and then we're going to all track you down and kill you. Yeah, we don't have enough for this dead actors montage.

Can you all kick off for us, please? No. Sacrifice yourself. You just need one human sacrifice. That's all.

All they ask. It's the Oscars. They're all powerful. Alright, it's time for our announcement. E.T., go to Preston.

If you're a friend on Facebook or you follow us on Twitter, which you should be both and or either, you've probably already seen this because I keep putting it out there because it's goddamn amazing. We're once again nominated for a Rondo Award. And even more impressive this time in what I consider to be the actual proper category. Last year was awesome, but I'd be the first to argue that we didn't belong in that category. What category were we in last year?

Last year we were Best Website. Our website's retarded because I'm the one that deals with it, and I don't know what the fuck we're doing. We admit that it's all stolen. Only some of it's stolen. I took the pictures.

Somebody just needs to sponsor us a website, and then we'll actually have a real website. But for now, we have the makeshift one because nobody's paying for it. I am paying for that one, and that's the most I'm going to put into it right now, because if I'm going to continue the show, I don't really have time to constantly mess with the website, obviously. Well, if somebody's in school to do web design and looking for a project, we're your project. You can make us a website.

So, this time we are actually nominated for what I feel to be a pretty impressive category. We are up for Best Horror Audio. So that's how awesome our horror discussions are, is that we're nominated up there with pretty big and well-backed, huge operations. So I don't know. I think that's pretty amazing that we're even in the running here.

Yeah. Plus, we're not professionals at the horror genre. So, you know, to be able to do that and help promote the field, you. Know, We certainly, and that's why I'm glad we ended up there, because if there's anything we fall into more than anything, it's horror anyway. I mean, we certainly sway in that direction, but, you know, from day one, I didn't want to pin it down. but I think again based on a lot of the people on the show that love horror a lot of the fans love horror so we end up right back at horror about you know 80% of the time but it's good to be able to mix it up here and there but yeah we're definitely very based out of horror obviously so once again If you haven't already, go to rondoaward.com and go to category number 21, Best Horror Audio.

Right. Category number 21. I need to vote. I haven't voted. All you do is go and you copy the ballot that is on their website and do your email.

It's all done by email, so don't go trying to do it some other random way or Facebook them or something. Because it all has to be directly in an email and sent to David, who actually runs the Rondo Awards. So. paste it into an email, and then put a big X on number 21 next to Movie Meltdown. If you want. We would certainly appreciate it.

And send it over. The deadline on that is March 27th, so if you're not listening to this immediately, it may be time for you to hurry the hell up and do it. So, get on top of it. Send them an email, because I think, you know, if anything, this is, you know, any vote that we get is a show of support for independent podcasts. I mean, We're up against at least one, if not a couple, pretty huge operations with major backing and sponsors and a lot of other stuff.

So as many votes as we get kind of legitimizes not just us, but every other podcast out there that's kind of, you know, financing themselves out of their pocket and trying to put together a good show. It's just a show of support for everybody that it legitimizes what we're all doing, I think. So if nothing else, you know. Support independent podcasts like us. I think the only reason I knew that we were nominated for a Rondo is because I saw that Eddie posted that on his Facebook page.

So thank you, Eddie, for that. Once again, yeah, that's another thing you can do is after voting for us, spread the word, post it on your page, post it on anybody else who's willing. I don't want to, like, spam people with it, but if you think People are actually interested in horror or podcasts or any of this stuff. Somebody owes you a favor? That too.

Even if the show wasn't nominated for it, I still, for years, well before the show has been around, I've been following the Rondo Awards. I think it's probably one of the most impressive awards that I've seen. There's a lot of them out there, especially on the internet. Every day there's a new award out there. Yeah.

This one's been around for years now, and it's actually become kind of prestigious. I mean, at least in the horror field. And, you know, it's kind of a big deal. So I think if there's anything that's bothering to call attention to stuff that gets overlooked, you know, websites and blogs and stuff that traditional media could give a rat's ass about. You know.

Magazine covers. Yeah, magazine covers and best audio commentary on a DVD. I mean, this is geek-friendly stuff here. This is knee-deep in the kind of stuff that most people who listen to podcasts are really into anyway. So...

I would think if you're not already familiar with it, go and check it out for no other reason, even if you don't vote for us. I think Rondo Awards is kind of something cool and of this new generation, this whole wave of new media that's come through that's just kind of still overlooked by the traditional media. And I think in the next 10 years, a lot of stuff is going to change. And I think this is the kind of place that's already on the crest of that and is kind of– backing the right people, the people that are going to be in charge in 10 years. So I think, you know, go check it out if you've not already been there.

RondoAward.com. Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins. Dun, dun, dun. Oh, well, if you weren't Logie with pork, I might call you out. For you members of the Secret Circle.

It is time for Moving Up Down the Secret Circle to reveal an upcoming exciting feature. Just one? Possibly. Okay. Okay.

You can still say it if you want. There you go. I figured that was really all you wanted to do. So, uh, we were, uh, we mentioned before we, we are going to be watching the, uh, Toby Hooper's invaders from Mars. That's, that will be coming in the near future.

Um, As far as exactly, I mean, we've got this coming out, and we've actually, the next, I'm looking ahead, so we've got another one coming in between then. I'm not 100% sure where we're going with that, if we're going to do a movie one, if we're going to go back and do another Caffeinated Movie Geek. But by the end of the month, to round it out with sort of a two coming up, we're going to be doing our coverage from Horror Hound. So, you've got that in the very near future, too, in the next couple of episodes. So, Get excited for that.

We're going to go pester Lisa Marie, if nothing else. There you go. Two waters and some crack. Yeah, I'll take some crack. Well, yeah.

I remember last year she sang with Hugh Jackman to prove that she could. Who is it again? Anne Hathaway. Every time she changes her outfits, she becomes a new person to change. Yeah.

Well, she's wearing a tuxedo now, so I didn't know who it was. Just from now on, it's any chick you don't know who it is, just assume it's Anne Hathaway. Oh, okay. Who's that? Anne Hathaway.

Oh, of course, James Franco is in drag. Sure. I mean, I know everyone hates Russell Brand. I don't hate him, but why is he invited to the Oscars? Because he's a celebrity.

He'll invite anybody. Yeah, but why is he doing stuff at the Oscars? Because he's popular. I'm not saying I like him. I'm just saying.

Because he's married to Katy Perry. Because he's Katy Perry's boy. We're back with Pastry Crack. Crack. I like crack.

Dog Teeth was nominated. You guys saw that. Oh, yeah. Dog house, dog food. Whatever.

It's all about dogs. Beethoven's second. Same thing. Just for that, you eat the foil. Fine, dude.

So what is it? Is it like a custard? It's crack. I don't know. I handed you two spoons.

You set them down. I didn't know I put your spoon on the table. You know that I'm weird. Bye. He was looking at somebody on TV.

It might have been Anne Hathaway. I was trying to figure out who that was. That's Anne Hathaway. Yep, that's Anne Hathaway. She's looking rough.

She really is looking old. Whoa, that thing's huge. See? You know what you're going to want. What is it?

It's a thing with crack and crack. Wow. Holy shit, that's good. If you would, I might tell you what's in it. Is it like a cinnamon-based, sugary croissant with some cream cheese filling in it?

Sort of. That's what I guess. He's not going to tell us. That's the only way he gets. Us to come.

Suckers. So, while we chow down on the crack, it's time for feedback. Oh, we got feedback. Fuck yeah. Do people listen to this damn show?

I don't know why. I'm a great cheer now. 50% of your listeners are now on the chat. At some point, I'll listen. I'm working on Randy, but he lives far away.

He's an honorary member. He is an honorary member. Ex officio member. So, speaking of which, we heard from Randy. But, we knew that because it's the other half of last week's message.

So, if you listened last week, and you should be, then you heard the other half of this. So, it is time to round it out with the rest of the crew here. Hey, Movie Meltdown, it's Randy. It's been a while, so let me backtrack. First of all, Turkzilla, that was fantastic.

I appreciate that. Gobble, gobble, motherfucker, indeed. I don't think there's a better holiday film for how I celebrate the holidays than that one, and I really appreciated your. Coverage of same. The Martin episode was fantastic.

As usual, you CSI'd the hell out of it, and I appreciated that. Splice, uh, being the dumb shit I am, I took my 22-year-old daughter. We had a Interesting time. That's a wonderful father-daughter bonding moment there. I will say when it got to the pivotal moment of man-hamster love, while watching her, I kind of just turned around to watch the theater to see how many people got up and laughed.

It was about four, and I enjoyed that immensely. I have to say the. Movie ruined me just a little bit. I feel odd going into pet stores without looking at pets and thinking, you know, this plus that equals. Hmm, awkward.

Very... Awkward. I think that movie was made by the pro-furry contingent. I thought the movie had a lot of flaws, but it was certainly a singular watch, so I didn't mind it. I thought when Sarah Polly's Elsa went berserk and suddenly she had a bad childhood, it was like, come on, guys.

If your parents ruin you in your childhood, you stay ruined. It doesn't, like, wait for your kid to spear your cat with her tail, I think. I would like to point out, I think one of the best aspects of what you've got going is Jay's outrage at what's wrong with the goddamn world. I think you should make that a regular segment. That's all for now.

Misty's awesome! And I'll talk to you guys later. Take care. So I figured you guys had to be here for the last half. Okay, cool.

Thank you, Randy. I got a lot of outrage. I got a lot of rage. I know. I've got to hear it all the time.

She's got to hear about me bitching at everything. I've got a lot of rage, too. It's lovely to work so good together. Yeah. We hate a lot of the same things.

Yeah, we do. We have a lot of hate in common. And I hear you're awesome. I'm pretty fucking awesome. You are going to call 911 when I pass out, right?

We'll see. Some of the things I've eaten tonight. I know, I've been working at this thing thinking I don't think I can eat it. I have a fat roll that I did not come here with. Mission accomplished.

I'm going to run like 8 miles tomorrow. Oh hell, Christian Bale. No, he's got a beard. Winning himself a fancy Oscar. Still doesn't do it for me.

I'm sorry. I like beards, but not Christian. You like skinny dudes. What's that one? Machinist.

Machinist. Part two. Creepy. I love that movie. That was a creepy movie.

It's such a great movie. I've never seen it. I'm always creeped out when guys' fucking beards do not match the hair on their head. A lot of guys' beards are red. I know, and it's fucking creepy.

Sometimes I have some red beards. Is that what they mean when the jerks don't match the cartoon? No. Okay, good. I mean, like, that's...

Like most guys who grow beards, their beards come out red for whatever reason. Weird. He's got a couple orange hairs. That's why I keep wanting to ask. I've got gray and brown and black and red all in there.

He's got a story to keep covered. Magical. She holds me down and, like, tweezers my face. It's not enjoyable. Well, then fucking shave that shit more often.

I try to remember. Well, you'd think me squeezing would be a fucking constant reminder to keep your ass in check. You don't want fucking brains damaged. You do have a lot of bank. Oh, Lord.

So, thank you, Randy. Thank you, Randy. You're my favorite listener. You don't count. You're cast now.

That's right. You don't count. So. I don't know. I still think Spice was pretty impressive the way it was put together just character-wise.

I actually think it was... Again, going back, I was listening to other people talk about it, and I think as time goes on, I gain a little more respect for it. I think it's pretty... you know, well pieced together as far as the characters go, but at the same time, I think it knows how schlocky it is, and it totally, like, makes use of all that stuff and takes it over the top when it needs to take it over the top. You know, they promoted it like it was Inception, and it should have been promoted like it was a B-movie. Yeah, it was badly marketed.

I think I would have liked it a lot more had they done that. Yeah. Also, so what you're saying, Randy, is this would be a great movie to take my 11-year-old daughter. Because we need a good bonding. Yeah, that's father-daughter bonding right there.

Then we're going to go home and dance. Do you lock your daughter up in the barn? No. It's okay. She's got a place to swim.

That makes it fine. That's right. I don't know. I think some of the parenting issues can lay sort of dormant. I think, you know, maybe not that she went like totally crazy all of a sudden, but I think some of that parenting stuff, like, I don't think you use that.

It's like those muscles you don't use until you have to. It's like some of that stuff may not come into play until it's too late and you realize, oh shit, I'm a horrible parent. Right. Well, you know, there are things that I've found myself all of a sudden saying, and I'm like, that's exactly what my parents said. And it's this revelation that oh shit, there is a part of me that's just like that.

I didn't have bad parents, but everybody has things. But you end up turning out. Yeah, you're like, I'm not going to be like that when I have kids. And then all of a sudden, you know, it pops up on you. You're like, oh shit, I just did the starving kids in Africa to get her to eat her sandwich.

You know, that really, you know, I can't believe that came out of my mouth. Wow. She did the thing the other day. She was like, God, you sound just like your dad. And I was like, wait a minute, maybe I do.

Is this another train crash movie? How many train crash movies are there? It's J.J. Abrams, though. This does look really good.

This is the one that the cast didn't even know what they were making, right? Yeah. I mean, again, unless they massively screw things up, everything about it looks good. What is this? Everybody involved, Super 8.

I mean, it's J.J. Abrams, it's Steven Spielberg, so it's like, If you screw this up, you know, it's your own fault. If it's aliens in Peru, they are going. To screw it up. Well, we'll see.

Peruvian aliens? Right. So we also heard from... We also heard from Demise. Oh, wow.

We have two of those. That's what I'm saying. Hi, Demise. I really don't have any real secrets. I was just listening to your holiday extravaganza.

So I called in to say howdy. So. Keep up the great work. I still love your guys' show. I'm just always on catch-up.

I think I'm trying to tie a metal mic to you on the catch-up routine. Talk to you later. Bye. Wait, it's a two-for-one special. Hi, this is Mize.

This is going to be one of those times where I call it a million times and I'm talking really fast because I think I'm going to lose connection here in a second. But I think since so many of you have yet to see Children of Men, that you should definitely. Make that an episode. I would love to hear your guys' playback on that. It's just a great story.

Hearing you guys bring it up again makes me think that I really need to get the book or the audiobook or something because I'd like to know the full story that it was done on. I went into it knowing nothing, and that just made it wonderful for me. The other thing is I'm so excited that you're going to do Summer School. That was one of my all-time favorite summer goopy movies. I had such a major crush on James Shaw.

I adored him. I adored the actor. I wanted to hang out with those two. I used to kind of try and make my... It's such a geeky thing, but, you know, we all have our things, and I sometimes was called Psycho while other friends were called different nicknames.

I got called Psycho because I like horror movies so much. I just wanted to. Be Chainsaw or his buddy and be like that. That was my goal in life, to be that kind of person. So, anyways, that's all.

I'll probably call back again. Bye. Part three. Why is always call from her car? I think.

She's out walking the dog. Yeah, walking the dog. Oh, is that what it is? I thought she was in a car or something. I think maybe she was.

I don't know. We get a lot of mobile calls from everybody. I know there's been a couple more we get where people are... We get calls, whatever. That's what I'm saying.

I have no complaints. Oh, I'm not complaining. She just always sounds like she's really busy. She's got a lot of crazy life. It's like on the move.

Hey, I'm in free out, but I'm going to make another message. That would be awesome if somebody would do that. Or better, post-op, if you're still kind of coming out of the drugs and you're calling us, that's awesome. Please do that. That's a show.

That's true. Right. So, yeah, if you made it to the summer school episode, you'll know that I fall right into that category. And a little... It's frightening how much of a similar geek to Chainsaw I was.

So... Yeah, it was a hell of an episode to record. I thoroughly enjoyed the process. Didn't like the editing process, as it was ravaged by fucking Skype, but anyway, whatever. Yeah, otherwise, I thoroughly enjoyed the whole discussion with Katie, and I think it's still a good episode.

I did a lot of fighting to edit it together, but, you know, yep, it's a hell of a movie. I'm still sold on that one for life, I'm sorry. All right, that is it for the feedback. Do you guys need to get that one out? No, we need to go.

Okay, there you go. We gotta go. We gotta be able to like... Ted Hathaway! Hey, that one is Andy.

Good job. All right. It's time to celebrate. You can go on, so you better get the hell out while you're ahead before you point to James Franco and say, We gotta go. I gotta go to work.

I gotta burn some shit. Make those tacos and whatnot. Taco J. All right. Well, I want to thank you guys for joining us for another pork-tastic edition of Oscar Meltdown.

Barring one or several heart attacks, we will return next year with our continuing Oscar coverage, if you want to call this coverage. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.

Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Especially an American girl. You can tell she's been raised on promises.

Well, she was an American girl. Raised on promises She couldn't help thinking That there was a little. More to life Somewhere else After all, it was. A great big world With lots of places to run to. Yeah, she had to die to try and she had one little promise she was gonna keep.

Oh yeah, all right. Take it easy, baby. Make it last all night. She was an American girl. Well, it was kind of cold that night.

She stood alone on a balcony. Yeah, she could hear the cars roll. By at all 441 like waves crashing down the beach desperate moment there he crept back. Oh, yeah. All right.

Take it easy, baby. Make it last all night. She was an American. Girl. Oh, yeah.

So You may now remove your 3D glasses. Thank you. Look, Coppola, you can just put your Oscars where the sun don't shine. This show is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by Brian Renfro. To help support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com for ways that you can contribute or advertise with us.