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Movie Meltdown - Episode 181 This week we come to you “live” from Flyover Film Festival, and we are joined by special guest co-host director Martha Stephens! First we talk to Martha about getting into filmmaking and discuss her recent film “Pilgrim Song”. Then she joins us for this week’s Sofa Theater feature: “Coal Miner’s Daughter”. There we discuss Sissy Spacek’s Academy Award winning performance and the snapshot of Americana that is Michael Apted’s early life story of singer Loretta Lynn. And before we’re done we also end up discussing baseball, Bruce Springsteen, the film fest circuit, unmade biopics, weird roadside attractions and having your own private Wigwam.  Plus somewhere in the mix, we also mention... a love song to Kentucky, Patsy Cline, the projects of England, The 13th Floor Elevators, Barry Lyndon, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, it’s a Jeep thing, the company store, Kirstie Alley, not getting “the talk”, tender but troubled, Mishima, apple pie, wearing some pretty amazing dresses, a fantasy baseball league, Low and Clear, North Carolina, European Appalachia?, better because it’s different, a patchwork of things from life, Levon Helm, being stalked by Loretta Lynn, I’m Not That, early product placement, West Virginia, not singing... for about an hour, Clark Griswold’s wife, Jesco White, Frank Redford, how many different hats can we put Russell Crowe in?, 1970’s zooms, birth control, weirding out Sissy Spacek, Prometheus and Cave City.

Spoiler Alert: Full spoilers for “Coal Miner’s Daughter” and/or the actual life of Loretta Lynn.

“I like creating my own world... in writing.”

For more on Martha’s film, go to: http://www.pilgrimsongthemovie.com  

For more on Flyover Film Festival: http://www.flyoverfilmfestival.com

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To shed, pure West Virginia. What is your fatherly, is he a coal miner, does he stink of all that? Hi, this is Martha Stevens, and you are listening to Movie Meltdown. Looks like I'm running late again As the wind tips all concrete Keep the beat Always somewhere to go Nowhere to be I'm looking for my flyover stick Those backyards and great lakes I gotta take it easy now Kentucky, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio The red ones, the. Blue ones, the places that I know.

Look up the way. You've gone, the way you've been and away from I'm in a flower stand I've found I'm in a flower stand I'm. Proud What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Lucy.

And this week we are coming to you live via digital recording. From Dreamland Film Center here in Louisville, the home of the Louisville Film Society and the site of some of this year's programming of Flyover Film Fest. Speaking of which, we've got a special guest co-host this week, a director who is showing her movie at the festival this weekend. We'd like to welcome director Martha Stevens. Hello.

Thank you for having me. So, you are here with your film, Pilgrim Song, which was showing last night. How was the... The showing for you, how's the festival been going so far? Good.

It was really nice to have my Kentucky screening finally after taking it around mostly the southeast and other places, but still just coming home with the movie felt right. And it was great. We had a sellout screening, and can't complain about that. And I think it was well received. It was a huge group of people.

Because I was in there... before everybody came in and we were like, what is this party going on outside? There was just this lobby full of people. Yeah, they're waiting to see Tim, I think, probably. I don't think so. But what I like about Flyover Film Festival, in my opinion, they're like kind of a world-class film fest, which is weird in the middle of Louisville here, but they're pulling in the top tier of independent films, and they showcase local films, artists and directors when they have them, but they don't specifically do that.

It's not set up to be a local film fest. You know, it's actually set up to just bring in like the best independent films out there. But, you know, we've got your film comes in and it's kind of like the best of both worlds because, you know, it's making a big hit in the festival circuit. It's making its rounds and getting a lot of really good buzz. But at the same time, There's times when it's almost like a promotional video for the state of Kentucky.

Good, yeah. It really works as highlighting this area in general on top of being a really well put together independent film. Well, thanks. Yeah, I hope people are happy and feel good about. The way I displayed the state.

I mean, I think it's definitely.... A love song to Kentucky to be really generic. I love where I'm from, so I'm happy to keep creating movies here. You were born in Kentucky. How did you get, were you initially interested in film when you were younger, or did it happen later?

Well, yeah, I grew up in a rural farm, you know, farmland county, and. We still had a movie theater. We'd go across the river in Ohio and go see movies sometimes and there was nothing else to do. So seeing, you know, the third Indiana. Jones movie was, you know, a hot summer day was, you know, that's what we did to kill time.

I had three older brothers and mom would drop us off the movies and let us stay there for half. A day and then come get us later. So yeah, I've always loved movies. And I think sometime when I was like around 14 or 15 years old. I decided I wanted to make them.

And I dabbled a little bit in high school and made horrible movies that I hope no one ever sees. And then I went to film school in North Carolina. I guess once you did a movie that was at the festival last year, it got a lot of decent reviews as well. And then this year you come back with The Pilgrim Song. Where did that idea come from as far as the movie itself?

Well, I wanted to make a Kentucky movie. And I wanted to make a movie for Tim Morton, who plays our lead, James. I wanted to write something for him specifically. And I also took some experiences from teaching. I taught for a few years.

It was pink slipped. You know, it's just, it's such like a patchwork of things from my life or things that interest me. Like there's no real specific topic. I don't have a good story of why I made this movie. It's just a lot of little things that came to make it.

I don't know. I think that works. Yeah. That's how most things come, just little pieces here and there. It's not exciting to hear about, but, yeah.

I think that's more likely how everything comes together, really. Yeah. I can find traces of doing this from, you know, infancy in my eyes. Right. So, yeah, I know how it is.

Yeah. Um, well, that's, that's what I wanted to say. I mean, not to go too far into the movie because I think everybody should go seek it out and watch it. But, um, that, I think that was some of the stuff I liked about it is, um, also I didn't know anything going in really. I just, I knew who you were and I knew, you know, the movie by reputation and I knew I wanted to see it.

And you can, that's one of the rare situations where you can go into a movie not knowing about it. I mean, it's, it's hard to not know anything about Prometheus. But, you know, indie films, you can kind of go in and just, on our recommendation or a director, and sit and be totally, you know. Yeah. Caught off guard, usually, which you can't do with big movies anymore.

So, yeah, I went in and wasn't sure what to expect. And I was really impressed with how fun it is on one hand, and also genuinely funny, but not because it's trying to be. I think that's why it works so well. Most. indie comedies that try to be comedies that that's the problem the comedy doesn't work right it's. Very subtle yeah the humor and so it's kind of up to you if you want to laugh or not yeah because you want a movie is like a full-blown comedy and it doesn't work then it's really a miserable experience yeah but if a movie is sort of not a drama not a comedy just sort of is and there are funny moments and if it works for you good if it doesn't oh well i don't I don't feel like I'm embarrassing myself.

But it's my sense of humor. I don't know. I think situations are funny. Situational humor is funny. And it's so based around the characters, specifically our main character.

And I think, again, just the thing that struck me the most funny was he's so honest. But it's very understated. He's very quiet most of the time, but he will just say the most honest things And that, to me, was what was funny. So I think that's one of those things to watch as you see the movie, is just his reaction to stuff. It's probably more honest than most people are, but at the same time, the people around him are kind of oblivious to it.

They are oblivious. It's just, that's my favorite part. But yeah, he does a great job. Actually, all the actors put in a great performance. Thank you.

Definitely worth going and finding out there. I cannot take credit for that. I think it's all about casting, and if you cast the right people, then you'll usually have a pretty good product demand. It's easy for me. I don't have to direct as much when I have really talented people. and like tim and brian they're great you know.

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This is Amy Simons, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. That was me melting down. It's time for Sofa Theater. Happy anniversary, darling. Yeah, it looks like you had a happy one.

You know, do most couples spend their anniversary together? What's that? That's your anniversary present, baby. Happy anniversary. My anniversary present?

Uh-huh. Dude, sometimes I think you got a washer missing in your brain. I can't play that thing. Most people can't without they learn how first, God. You're not too ignorant to learn, are you?

Hell, if you don't want it, I'll give it to the kids. They probably don't want it either, so I'll put it in the canning box. Well, give me that. What'd you get me a guitar for? Because I like the way you sing.

You really think I sing good? Well, I was born a coal miner's daughter In. A cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler. We were poor but. We had love That's the one thing that Daddy made sure of He shoveled coal to.

Make a poor man's dollar. My daddy worked all night. In the bandlier of coal mines. All day long in the field of hoeing corn. Mommy rocked the babies at night and read.

The Bible by the coal oil light. And everything would start all over come. Break of morn. Welcome back to Movie Mountain Sofa Theater. This week's Sofa Theater feature is Co-Miner's Daughter.

The year is 1980. Director, we're going to go with Apted, I suppose. That's what it reads like. I haven't found anybody arguing the pronunciation, so Michael can get a hold of me if it's wrong. Director Michael Apted.

The plot, according to IMDb, and it's very literal, biography of Loretta Wynn, a country and western singer that came from poverty to fame. Okay, I mean, you can't really argue that. It's not very impressive, but you can't argue it. So, with that spoiler alert, it's been since 1980, but if you haven't seen Coal Miner's Daughter, I guess. Spoiler alert, Loretta.

Lynn's a singer. You ruined it. I know, sorry. God. She might not have made it, you don't know.

Going in, she's a little kid from the mountains. She might have had a horrible story, but she kind of does anyway. Alright, with that, let's get into it. So, where would you like to begin with Coal Miner's Daughter? I think that opening shot's where you...

At first, the movie catches your attention as soon as the screen shows this mule, I think, riding through trees in the mountains with Sissy Spacek, a 13-year-old version of Sissy Spacek with a little red cap. And she's riding it, and her sibling is attached to the back of the mule in a sled. And it's just her. wandering and then in white. Font comes up the coal miner's daughter and it just like right away puts you in the mood. In the time and place oh yeah situation.

Good it's so good i mean it's you know it's a biopic and biopics usually don't have a lot of personality they're kind of straightforward yeah but i think that this is one of the best biopics made. It does definitely have mood that a lot of them don't. I mean, a lot of them can be really cut and dry, and you get maybe good performances out of it, but as a whole, the movie may have not a lot to offer. Where this does give you a very... Especially in that first half, when they're back way in the country.

Yeah. Yeah, it definitely gives you a very... It paints that picture of that small town... really small town and what their life is like really well. Yeah. And, and the opening sequence, it's like cutting between Loretta and her dad in the mines.

And then is it Mooney. Her husband, Doolittle, um, Tommy Lee Jones, you know, running around in his red Jeep with a blonde by his side. It's just, it's great. And the camera never stops moving. It's like this ongoing, there's like a lot of energy and it has like a rawness to it.

It's, not like a smooth, the, the movement isn't always smooth. Like when we're, when the camera's facing Tommy Lee Jones driving, it's very jarring and it goes all over the place, but it's like, it has this, and maybe it's cause it was made in 1980, but it has this like really good raw quality that I, I like how it's not shiny and perfectly pieced together. It fits its surroundings. Exactly. Yeah.

And that first half is kind of like, uh, commercial for jeep is the whole thing is oh my god look how awesome this jeep is i hadn't. Really thought about that early product placement it kind of thing could totally take you to the top of that hill and. Take me up that hill i'm gonna come get you at your house nobody can come up the mountain well you know yeah. You pull up and they jump out and run out they jump. Right in your car it's a pretty good ad actually it.

Is and I think it's nice how the movie doesn't like doesn't make poverty it doesn't paint poverty to be cute but it also doesn't make it look like these people are living in squalor you know what. I mean it's it feels pretty honest I think. And it does I mean it again as she grows up and works this into her music that whole like no matter how poor we were, we still had a good family. You know, she, she, she kind of came to stand for that, that, you know, I came out of nothing, but we had love and we had this, you know, family unit. And, you know, I think it does present that pretty well, even though it's, it is a very backwards town, you know, they, they, they've got, you know, the important things, I guess you should say.

Yeah. And they actually shot, I think a lot of it in Van Leer where Butcher Holler is. And, um, Shot a little bit in West Virginia and stuff, but I like the fact that they didn't go to Europe to shoot Appalachia, which happens so much. And I'm like, just come here and do it. We're in Bulgaria right now shooting the Appalachian Mountains.

Right, right, exactly. And I think you can't not think about how awesome Levon Helms is as her father. And, like, what a tender performance he gives. And, like, how well that relationship is painted in this opening. And she's just, like, a daddy's girl.

And he's, like, hard, but he loves his kids so much. And he's such a good dad. And almost unrecognizable. I'm so used to his older version that I sat there forever going, I thought Leave on Home was, oh, my God. I was like, yeah, I'm not used to him being that young.

It's weird. It's good. It's good. And I think most of the extras were, like, real townspeople and stuff, which I think is always good. I like that.

I do that. Yeah. Yeah. So. And there's a few Zooms.

I love, like, 1970s Zooms. And although, like, that sort of thing was sort of, you know, coming to an end in the 80s, it was so nice that there was, like, a few pretty good Zoom ends. I do like, speaking of the whole little town and setting up that mood, I do like that they work in the company store reference. Because that probably is, yeah, more so than people realize, I guess, now. I mean, not that sort of the same system isn't going on in a different way now, but it is weird how much that was going on and how much it sort of worked to keep these people in poverty and So I like that they at least make that reference in there.

Yeah. I mean, I live in West Virginia now, and you go to these little towns, and you still see where the company stores, you know, were and probably were in. Business until, like, the 80s or something. It's just, yeah. Living in West Virginia, it gives you a pretty clear idea of what the mining did.

To the people there. And does. And still does to this day, exactly. So, yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, you get in, there are still like those, looking at it from today's perspective, as I'm sitting there watching it and we get in the house, they're not a huge house and And kids just keep coming in the room. I'm like, oh, my God, birth control. There's so many. There's so many children. And then she goes on to have a ton of kids.

Yeah. And I love the introduction of the kids, like, when she's in the kitchen. And it's like a shot of a kid and then a shot of a kid and then a shot. And you're like, oh, God, when is this going to stop? It does stop.

It doesn't stop. I love that moment, too, when she comes home after she separates from Tommy Lee Jones. Yeah. And the dad's like, you're getting married life's making you fat. And the mom's like.

Oh no. Oh no. Cause yeah. So then they're locked into their marriage. Um, and one thing I wanted to say, I think the like.

First, first, uh, 30 minutes of the movie, they're the best part of the movie. And, um, just maybe it's because I just love the setting, but, um, I was noticing, I was reviewing it this morning a little bit and I noticed like how wonderful Tommy Lee Jones and Sissy Spacek, how great their body language is. Like, Tommy Lee Jones is sitting and talking to the moonshiner and he's, he's holding his knees up to his chest. Like, like a high school student. Yeah.

Like the, like, even though you look at him. And you're like, clearly you're a man trying to play a boy, but he's still there. They really, I feel like tried to at least capture like this youthful. I don't know, air. It was, it was really nice.

And Sissy Spacek, of course, won the Academy Award that year. Um, and, and, does an amazing job she's so good she does it is funny though watching that you mentioned that because i noticed that too there's that that scene of of tommy lee jones trying to like tell her dad you know i want to marry her and i'm looking at the show i'm like aren't you two the same age he's supposed to be like 22 or something and i'm like i'm pretty sure you're like 40 i don't think tommy lee jones was ever really young i think he came out 40 yeah like he's always looked like So yeah, it was really funny. I'm just like, dude, your dad's the singer. Yeah. Did you all notice how Sissy Spacek doesn't even sing until almost an hour into the movie?

Yeah. Again, I think that's what, like you said, that first half, I think even with them on the road, I think that first half of the movie is better because it's different. It really does present, because you get to that second half and it's like, every singer biopic ever you know it's like this could be walk the line this could be I mean then they're on the road all the time and no they're taking pills you know just like it becomes what every celebrity biopic kind of becomes but this first half of the story is different than just about everybody else's you know origins so. It takes it's time yeah it. Makes it a very different story that you haven't seen before in these especially in a biopic.

Kind of thing I yeah I think it's stuff and I like how it it builds anticipation, you know? Yeah. I mean, that is something that you, you know where it's going. I mean, you can't do a whole lot with biopics in that, like, you know, you can't have a big twist somewhere down the line. You kind of know where it's going if it's going to be somewhat factual.

So yeah, but it does. Yeah. That first half where you realize she's like kind of fighting it and it, it isn't like it just happened overnight. It's this, you, you see her not even knowing how to play the guitar, and you see her not wanting to get on stage. So it is sort of this, her being won over to what you know is going to be this amazing career.

Yeah. It's interesting. Did you read any of the backstory of how Sissy Spacek came to be? I don't think. In the part?

Well, she, apparently, I guess Loretta Lynn sold the rights to her store or whatever, and knew there was going to be a movie made, and was going on national television saying. I'm getting Sissy Spacek to play this part. And no one ever talked to Sissy Spacek. And Sissy Spacek. Was actually very weirded out and, like, felt very disconcerned that this was happening and almost turned it down because she didn't...

She just thought it was so weird. Because Loretta Lynn's stalking her. Right. And I think she was... Then, like, at some point when she was watching one of these interviews... coal miners like dog the song came on the radio and she was like I guess it's meant to be and throughout the shooting they spent a lot of time together and they wrote songs together and Loretta like took her to her bosom you know and but I just thought that was funny that Loretta Lynn just she's just like a firecracker anyway she's just like Sissy Spacek's gonna play it without you know.

That's really interesting. It sounds a little like the Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn relationship, too. Right. She kind of calls her a hen. Some other hen thing, yeah.

Jack, Loretta's getting to be a woman. Going on 14. Women's supposed to have pretty things. Mommy, she ain't no woman. She ain't nothing but a.

Dad burn key. Before we get too far out of the early part of the movie here, is everybody creeped out by the wedding night? It is such a creepy scene, really. I mean, I know it's... It's how things were.

It's how it worked. She was 13? Yeah. Or maybe she was 14 by then. Well, she's a woman now.

According to her family. She had no real, you know... Had probably... No one ever gave her the talk. No.

No, I thought that was fascinating. I mean, the thing with the book, and I guess that's really how it was, that, you know, with them not being saturated by media and learning sexuality that way, that you just had no idea what this thing was. Yeah. No idea, probably. I mean, this is pre-internet.

You can find everything you need on the internet, but... More than you ever want on the internet. But, yeah. Kid in the mountains, and, you know, that day... Yeah, totally ignorant.

In a little sleazy motel in town. Yeah, I like that everybody out there knows what we were doing, Comet. I was like, that's cute. That's such a 14-year-old girl, you know? Just like, they all know what we're doing in here.

I do like, though, how the movie, they make light of that in a way. But they also never, like, condemn the people for. It's never, like, making a big deal out of the fact that she was... 2014, which is weird, but it was the time of the times. It was different then, so.

It's harder for us now watching it than, you know, at the times it was kind of the norm. I mean, maybe not everywhere, but certainly in most of the country for a lot of years there, that was still going on. And just, you know, within a few years after that, maybe it started becoming not such a good thing and people were waiting a little more. But, yeah, I mean, for for most of our, you know, country's history and the world over, that's kind of how things used to be. Right.

It's really, yeah, it just seems creepy to us now, but. Right. But I, yeah, but I feel like the filmmakers never, never like shun their, you know, or turn their noses up at any of the situations that happen. Yeah. Which, which is good because I mean, a lot of the, if you were coming from a different place, And he's British, isn't he?

Yeah, he's British. Coming from an entirely different world, he really could have looked at this and went, oh, God, and really sort of cast a down vision of this. But who knows? Maybe he was from, like, the projects in England somewhere. The backwoods of England.

Yeah, who knows? But, yeah, and looking at his filmography, it became very clear to me that Kohlmeyer's daughter was, like, his masterpiece. Yeah. Cole Myers-Adder's like the best thing he's done. Maybe.

I don't know. I like Firstborn myself. Well, he did Enough, right? With Jennifer Lopez where she fights her abusive husband. If I remember, Blink was in there.

That classy man in stuff. Extreme Measures. There's some classy movies in this list. Nell. We can't forget Nell.

Yeah, Nell. His return to Appalachia. Yeah. Where Jodie Foster really. That's become such a joke, which is a shame, because Jodie Foster does a good performance, but you can't not make fun of it.

It's just asking for it. It's chick-a-pay, right? Chick-a-pay-pay. I mean, how can you not make fun of that? If only we could have gotten Sissy Spacek to do that, her entire performance, in that language.

Yeah. Nell's language. Nell language. Yeah, well, he's definitely a director for higher... Yeah.

I don't know. I would never have heard of him as being some sort of auteur or anything. Which is odd because, let's see, what was it? He is now the president of the Directors Guild of America. That seems appropriate, doesn't it?

That's pretty much the kind of stuff they do there. I guess that's how they operate. Directors for hire. Yeah, I mean, you were saying the way that they present them. I mean, there is that middle section there where I mean, even as much as they don't paint the characters that way, Tommy Lee's kind of a jerk.

And again, maybe it's just me being in today's age, but I mean, I'm sure at the time, most of what he did was probably the same thing any guy would have done in that situation. But looking at it now, he comes off as such a jerk in that middle area when he's just yelling at her and won't let her do anything and wants to be in charge of everything. And i don't know there's there's it's again a weird perspective thing i think that i think people like kids now watching it would think this is a really weird movie but yeah at the time it yeah it's the same thing that was going on in every household probably a lot. Of smacking the smacking the lady around. Yeah i like that wedding night move like i make the promise and you don't get out of the honeymoon.

It's like, don't ever hit her and don't take her away from home. The next night. She's like, Jesus Christ. You know, this is all. I mean, it's based off of a biography that...

Kind of an autobiography. It's like her and another author. So it's from her perspective. It's from Loretta Lynn's perspective. Anybody's perspective is a little painted by... their own feelings or emotions.

So, not that I'm giving him any... Not that I'm saying. That he was great, like a great guy. I'm sure she's... But as time goes on, it is funny how much... that relationship holds up, and that she does end up, you know, still loving him all these years later.

Are they still married? Well, they were still... I did look that up, because I was sort of curious if he was alive when the film came out, if they were together when the film came out, because it is so candid. I mean, it is a very much warts and all depiction. And she was with him until he passed away, which was years after that.

He's gone now, but yeah, they were, I think, together. And it is, I mean, it is a love story, and while, you know, I think... I think the movie sort of focuses on he did these things, but it was more out of frustration of his inability to assert his manhood in a time when that was so important. Right. Um, rather than, and you know, and obviously he had weaknesses, but rather than any.

Yeah. And he kicked himself in the ass cause he's the one that pushed her to be what she became. Which, I mean, that's sort of the good balance. Like you see that part in the middle where even when he's kind of being a jerk about it, he's like, I, I, believe in you you know even even more than you do yeah i am i know you have talent you make me proud when you do these things so i want you to be it's almost again like a very parental thing of you know i know you can do this and i'm going to support you and so it yeah it's that sort of balances out the the horrible other situations that come about with him but yeah i mean he's he's very in the business end of it in those early days he you i mean she would have never period, wouldn't have ever been a singer, would have never been a successful singer had he not been there, so in a way, he sort of makes up for it with being sort of supportive in that middle section, and then turns around and kicks himself in the ass, because he's just like, why the hell did I do this, now look at me, and it is a weird situation, I guess, once she starts to get successful, and there's kind of no place for him in that world, and Yeah, it's weird.

Yeah, and that's another interesting moment where Patsy Cline turns to her husband and says, you know, whatever, just remember your tax deduction or whatever. Which is pretty funny. And then Sissy Spacek. All of a sudden feels all empowered. She's like, yeah, you too, buddy.

Don't you forget that. And just the look on his face, this look of horror and sadness. The dynamic between the two of them is, I think, my favorite part of the movie. I think it's. A very true relationship that's depicted in a very authentic way.

Yeah. That is tender but also of troubled. If nothing else, once it got into it, I was just like, if you take nothing else from the whole Loretta Lynn story, it paints this to be Patsy Cline's the coolest chick ever. She comes off really cool. Is it Beverly D'Angelo?

Yeah, which I thought was weird casting. Once I saw that's who she was, I was just like, oh, God, this isn't going to work at all. Yeah, she was great. You think of her as Clark Griswold's wife, and then she comes out of left field. She's also pretty great at that, truthfully.

But yeah, I did not see her as Patsy Cline, and she pulls it off really well. And did the singing, too. I didn't see that coming, either. Not quite as well as Sissy Spacek. Well, you know, it's not her profession.

Yeah, Patsy Cline's pretty. Hard to emulate. It's hard for anybody. But yeah, it's a good movie. Like, I couldn't... say that it's like high art or something.

I don't know. Like I said, it's a biopic and I think that because you already know the story, it's already maybe more difficult to be taken aback by it. Am I making sense? Sort of. Yeah.

I mean, well, and like I said, I think I have that issue with any of them once it gets there because it does seem like it's just sort of going through the motions that last half hour because then it just... They don't even really delve into what's going on. She's just losing it and. Oh, and by the way, pills. Kind of pills, but they really don't ever, like, spell that out.

Like, at least with, like, you get to the Johnny Cash story, and they're like, no, really, he was on a lot of drugs. Right. And they make it obvious what, you know, what the demons are with him. And, like, with her, it's just like, things aren't going so well now. Like, you could kind of spell...

I mean, if you're going to bother, you could spell this out a little bit so we at least... really get a decent picture of what's going on here, where it seems like they sort of gloss over what was going on in that part. Let me ask you all something. If you could see a biopic of any musician that's not been made, who. Would you pick? That's a good question.

That is a good question. Do you have an answer? I was thinking today, like, why is there no Dolly Parton biopic? That would be a good one. Oh, what's the casting on that?

I don't know. I think just her and you just CGI unage her. Well, she's kind of doing that to herself. These days anyway. She's doing a lot of weird stuff.

She's doing a lot of weird stuff. I think she would have a really. Because she has that same rags to riches story, but also hearing her in interviews, she's like, I moved out to New Orleans and I kept a pistol in my purse. It's crazy, crazy. I don't know.

And that would be an interesting one with once the husband comes into play because he was around the whole time too and really like it just kind of came that joke of like she would always reference him but he was never really there he never really had anything to do with it so that would be an interesting dynamic they didn't. Even like sleep in the same bedroom I mean it was like a I think like a friendship it turned into like a friendship marriage an. Interesting biopic now that I think about it she would need to write it because I don't think anybody other than Dolly Parton could write Dolly Parton like she would need to be responsible for the dialogue yes Yeah, it always has sort of disappointed me.

I don't know what that impulse is. It feels like biopics are always sort of straightforward and nobody gets really experimental. I mean, I think Mishima and what was the. Ian Curtis one? The Ian Curtis one I thought was sort of more interesting than they generally are.

Control, I think. Yeah, it was good. I'm Not There was kind of cool. Yeah, that's true. That's one that did go someplace interesting.

I don't know if you'd call that a biopic. Differently, yeah. A character study. A different approach to it, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm still waiting for the Bruce Springsteen biopic. How has it taken them this long to do it? I don't know. Usually they're on top of these super popular people, so that's weird.

I guess the Kurt Cobain one was an interesting idea. Maybe that's why people don't do it. They keep trying. They keep talking about a new one every year, it seems. Like.

I don't know that we need those. It's probably not going to go well when they do it. It's true. I don't know. Eric Burden.

Oh, yeah. I don't really know his story. Yeah, I don't either. I'm just trying to think of somebody I haven't seen a lot on, and I don't know even that that's an interesting, tragic story. Maybe Rocky Erickson from the 13th Floor Elevators.

Yeah, that's definitely one with a lot of story to it. Yeah, definitely. Townes Van Zandt. Another one that most people don't know much about, so yeah, those would all be interesting. So we've got a list of movies for you to make is what we're saying.

Forget all that other stuff I was working on. Martha, you've got a whole list of stuff to make now. Jeez. I'm doing nothing but music biopics from here on out, people. That sounds miserable.

Yeah, kind of. Maybe one. So much research involved that I just don't. I like creating my own world and writing. That's what you should do.

Don't be factual. Just, like, call it a biopic and sell it like it is and then get in there and just do whatever the hell you want. You know they're making a Jessica White movie, supposedly. Do you have the Dancing Outlaw? Oh, yeah.

They're making a movie with Johnny Depp's playing him. Oh, no. This could just be rumored. I have no idea, but Kirstie Alley's going to play his wife. Oh, God.

Which I'm really excited about that possibility. I think Kirstie Alley could be a crazy West Virginia lady. I think that would be really fun to see. It could be horrible, but it would be fun to watch. Yeah, Jessica's got a weird little following out there that's very strange.

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Where? Butcher Holler. That's where me and Dew's from, back in Kentucky. Anyway, I wrote the song, and Dew heard it, and he said, that's about as pretty a song as I ever heard. Good as Patsy Cline.

I said, oh, ain't nobody sings as good as Patsy. Well, let's give a listen to it, folks. Brand new on the Zero label, Miss Maureen Wynn. Singing Honky Tonk Girl. It's Loretta.

It's Loretta Lynn, not Lorraine. Loretta. There's not a lot to speak of, unfortunately. I picked a hard movie. Well, again, it's all in that first half.

It's like, once it gets to the middle there, I don't know that there's as much to go into. It does. It's really. About Sissy Spacek's performance. Yeah.

She's great, you know? That's what makes the movie good. And the fact that the. I feel like the camera direction's pretty good. It's...

It looks... It's confident. Yeah. It's good. It's a lot of movement, and...

Yeah. The one that I wanted to give him credit for, camera-wise, when he's, like, driving the bulldozer, and, like, she climbs on, and he's doing that, you gotta, if you wanna do this, you gotta decide you wanna do this. That shot is awesome. Like, everything is moving. It is that they're shooting on the bulldozer, and, like, you kinda can't hear, but, again, it's almost realistic, because you're hearing mostly the bulldozer, and they're just kinda yelling at each other, and The camera's moving this direction, the bulldozer's moving the opposite, and it's like, it's a really well put together shot.

I have to give him credit for that. That's probably one of the most impressive, you know, visual pieces in the movie. Yeah. But no, I was going to say that the other thing I noticed on this one is they did it relatively early, really. I mean, 1980...

And she's still putting out music, you know? It's like 2004, she comes back with a whole new style of music. That's a big window there that, like, pretending like the story's over in 1980. Again, maybe it's just the perspective now. Because I'm sitting there going, what about all these other years?

I mean, it's like they wrap it up like, you know, and then she died. But, like, we know there's this entire life that takes place after this movie. Of course. I mean, I don't know that we need a sequel, but. I guess the book.

Came out at a certain. Time, and then they wanted to get the movie rights. I don't know. I guess that's her decision to make a book, to write a book at whatever, in the late 70s. That's what I thought was different about this one, though, is usually they wait until they're gone.

In fact, this I know because I knew somebody who worked on the movie Ray. They made that movie and finished it and sat on it for about a year, year and a half, until he died that's so because well they didn't want to again being business people that they are we didn't want to release it and have that be the week that he died and people were like oh god i don't want to see that like they were afraid him dying would throw off the i again i'm sort of elaborating on my own free will here but i'm pretty sure that was part of it is they didn't want it to hit it totally the wrong time which really might work in the opposite way let's go celebrate his life and see this movie but But yeah, I know they shot it and then it was a good year, year and a half after they finished wrapping before they...

And he died in that period. And they gave it like another six or eight months or something and then they put out Ray. And I was like, okay. I was like, that seems weird. But again, they almost wait until the end of their life and do a complete story so they can have this big wrap up at the end.

Where this one's weird because... You're almost midway in. She's just kind of middle-aged by the time this... But I. Like that because that means that the movie can.

There's more concentration on her early, like her formative years. Which again is the more interesting part. Yeah, and if you watch some of these biopics, they just do a little bit of that. Not enough. Not enough to get a good.

Grasp of who this person was before they signed a record deal. So I like that this took its time. So I don't know what Loretta Lynn's been doing since 1980 other than putting out some albums and wearing some pretty amazing dresses. Well that's the thing I'm not super into country music I like the older stuff and again I think because that's very honest and very real and as time went on I think it it hits a point where it becomes self aware and I think that's when it really kind of in my opinion started to suck And it's that weird crossover in the 70s where you've got people putting out great classic stuff. At the same time, people are starting to realize this sells.

There was that real rush in the 70s of like it was hip to be redneck for some reason. And all these weird like redneck movies were coming out and all these like country music took a turn and everything became a real yeehaw. Let's describe what it means to be country. Yeah, it became, like, it was like a joke. The sincerity was lost a little bit, and it was overproduced.

I mean, I like some 70s and 80s country music, actually. Some of it. But, like, now it's pop music. It's not country music. Well, it's either horrible, like it's nothing but, like, redneck lists of things that make me, you know, a cool redneck.

Which is frightening. Or it's totally pop at this point. It's just pop with a fiddle in the background. Right. So it's not anything what it used to be.

But what I wanted to give Lorelei credit for is as she continued to work, watching her in 2004 team up with Jack White, you almost have to give her credit for still trying to be a vital musician that many years in. It's like she was in her 70s making an album with this guy who was, like, 28 at the time, and he produces it for her, and he, like, plays on every song. Yeah. So trying to still be vital in the music scene. She's, like, reinventing herself a little bit for younger folks.

And people love, people love Loretta Lynn. Like, people who probably wouldn't have loved Loretta Lynn love her now, because they, she came. Out with that, it was Van Lee Rose's album. She came out with that, and it was just, like, killer people. Really responded to it it did sort of you know reinvigorate her whole career and i bet a lot of people went back and rediscovered the old stuff because of that album but yeah it is kind of cool to watch her cross over and work with somebody in a totally different genre and yeah and who's you know much much younger than her and sort of you know a different dynamic that comes out of it so i i almost give her credit as as somebody who didn't just you know go down that same road or just wrap it up when she got older it's like she really did come back and find a way to be vital again yeah it's kind of cool it's more than a lot of.

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And now, on with the show. One of my fondest memories Was sitting on my daddy's knee Listening to the stories that he told He'd pull out that old photograph Like a treasured memory from the past And say, child, this year's the family rose. Oh, how it would bring a smile When. He talked about her big blue eyes And how her beauty. Ran down to her soul Shitwalk across the coal miner's yard Them.

Miners would yell loud and hard And they'd freeze of. Who would hold the Van Leeuwenroos. She was the belle of Johnson County, Ohio River, the big. City, a beauty to behold. Like a diamond in the gold, all the miners, they.

Would gather round, talk about the man that. Came to town. Right under her nose, stole the heart of the Van Leeuwenroos. Um i did want to get um just because we we normally throw this in um and i didn't want to disappoint on this one we're so um movie geek oriented that we have a running segment that is our geek activities so when i have people i like to ask them what what their geek activities are if usually if you're movie geeks you can even go into what movies you like but Even if it's outside of that, just whatever you get super geeky about and are into. I'm in a fantasy baseball league.

Wow. That is a different level of geeky. Yeah. It's just mostly friends from film school. And, yeah, I'm losing really bad.

But it's fun to keep up with and to get a little obsessed about. That's kind of my geek. geeky hobby i don't. Even know how that works again it's too sports oriented i don't think my brain knows. How to process it's baseball and uh like all good american things uh baseball has a place in it in my heart um i feel like baseball is the is the ozu of this my friend aaron says it's the ozu of um sports like he's like like Like slow and methodical and lyrical and beautiful. Like baseball is just this, I don't, it's just this gorgeous thing to watch, especially.

In a night sky with the lights on. It's, it's like, I think it's the film lovers sport. Yeah. It is a very, that's what I've noticed. I really don't really care about baseball in the real world, but there's tons of baseball movies that I'm like really enjoy.

Yeah. I love money ball. There's something about that just visually and, and that there is a very, maybe because it's a slow paced game that you can build a actual story in the middle of the games going on. It's, it's easier to do that I think. So it's, It makes for some good movies, if nothing else.

Very pretty. Baseball field is beautiful. It's just beautiful to look at. It's very iconic, too. There's so much Americana in the idea of baseball.

I'm a sucker for American iconic anything. Like apple pie, baseball. You know, this is. Let me just bring up Bruce Springsteen again. These are just.

These are the things that really make me happy. Road trips. I don't know. I just. Motels.

These things. I love them. So. Those are good geeky activities. Yeah.

I like weird roadside attractions. Oh, I've done a lot of... My fair share of seeking those out. Those are awesome. And submitting tips to, like, Roadside America and stuff.

That's maybe the greatest website that ever happened. It is good. It's so good. Yeah, I. My actor, Brian, who. came in for the Q & A last night.

He just rounded up his kids and his wife, and they're at Cave City, and we're on Mammoth Caves right now, and staying in the wigwams. Cave City is awesome. Yeah. That place is just full of weird, amazing... Why is this here?

Like, what does this have to do with caves? I'm not sure, but it's dinosaurs and Native American lore and a wax museum of. that's not been updated since the 1970s. It's great. And again, the wigwams. If you're not from this part of the country, yeah, there are motels, we'll call them, that are shaped like a wigwam.

It's your own private wigwam. And you get to stay in your own private wigwam, which doesn't have cable TV. No, there's no TV. Damn it. There's no TV.

Isn't there? There was TVs when I was there. They must have broken. It's been a while. I went, and the last time I was there was like six years ago.

I went probably seven or eight years ago. Maybe I got the wigwam without a TV. Yours is like the discount wigwam. I do not. Well, there's two.

Those are called Frank Redford's Wigwam Village, okay? And that was, he patented them. Oh, Lord. Like the 30s or the 40s. I would do if I were him.

Yeah, and they're all numbered. It's like wigwam one, two, and there's like, I feel like there's like 12 of them or something. That he built. Yeah, there's only three left. Yeah, there's one in Arizona, the one in Kentucky, and where is the third one?

There's one in California, but the one in California has not been, it's like a by-the-hour wigwam village. Oh, nice. If it's even still in existence. Like, seven years ago, whenever I was at the one here, it still existed. It was one of three.

If you're going to do that, though, by-the-hour wigwam is the way to go. My heart hurts a little bit during that. I love those things. I've stayed in the one in Arizona, too. It's seasonal, right?

I feel like every time I've driven through, it's been the off season. I know the one in Kentucky is seasonal. They have the cool old cars out front. Yeah. I went in November, and it was open.

Oh, okay. Yeah. It's like Kentucky's southwestern brother. It's cool. I like staying in them.

Those things are awesome. So yeah, I like any of those ridiculous have to see it to believe it kind of things on the road out there. Me too. Those are awesome. So yeah, those are good for geek activities.

Anything you've been watching lately? I know you've been probably dealing with the... festival circuit for a. While yeah um i'm trying to think i've been i got married in october and i've um been showing my husband movies that mean a lot to me oh so. We've been going through has that been working well or Sometimes that doesn't go the. Way you hope.

No, he likes them. Like, I just showed him Barry Lyndon, Paris, Texas. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's been good, I think.

Like, it makes him understand a little bit what influenced me, I guess. Yeah. We've been kind of going through Martha's favorites. Is he a film person generally, or just now he is? He likes to go to the movies.

He loves the popcorn. It's like being in baseball. I like the veggie dogs. That's the extent of my participation. We just go there for the snacks.

Is that what you're saying? No, yeah. We just go for the snacks. That was my favorite line. That's the line from the movie.

No spoiler, but that's one of my favorite lines. In the movie. It's cross on me. Yeah, no, he does like movies. He wasn't like, not like on the level that I'm on, but he's, I think I'm slowly getting him to come over to my side.

I've realized that's a prerequisite for me. It's going to have to be. I've found out the hard way it doesn't work the other way. If they don't like movies. Well, that's all I do at this point.

It's like I'm either doing this or I want to watch movies on the side. So it's like that's all I bother to do and care about. So if they're not involved, it's going to end badly. Yeah. Well, he's very helpful.

Like, he helped us shoot and stuff. He's learning the ropes a little bit. Whether he likes it or not. Whether he likes it. He's a hospital priest.

So this is, yeah. Oh, wow. That's sweet. An adjustment? Yeah, he's an Episcopalian hospital priest.

So I get a lot of really good stories from the weird stuff that comes into the ER and weird tragedies. You're writing them all down, right? They're here. They work their way in future. They are.

Actually, in my next script, I have a guy who's a hospital chaplain. He's one of the side characters. So, yeah. Sooner or later, they all work their way in. They do.

It's true. Oh, and I've seen like so many movies at film festivals lately. So many. Well, that's, that's kind of what I was wondering with dealing with everybody this weekend. How much of it do you end up with the same people?

Cause everybody sort of tours around. So yeah, I feel like I see them. I mean, I see them more than I see my, my friend friends and my family. Like I see my film festival friends so much. Um, trying to think there have been a few movies that have stood out and weathering heights is here right now and i really liked that um andrea arnold's really smart lady and there's this documentary called low and clear that really spoke to me and one of the subjects is town van zant's son just no i can't remember his name but anyway it's a fishing documentary it's about fly fishing but it's.

It's beautiful it's like one of the most beautiful movies i've ever seen um. But yeah, I've been missing a lot of movies at the movie theater because I've been at film festivals. And I'm seeing these movies, but I'm still like, When the hell am I going to go see Men in Black 3? When is this movie going to happen for me? Oh, my God.

Prometheus. I have to go see it. I do really want to see Prometheus. Again, as much as I'm worried about it, yeah, I'm going to have to see it. I'm excited.

I just love weird space movies. Well, Ridley's just gotten so hit and miss over the years. Oh, yeah. Robin Hood. It can be brilliant and can be, what are you doing?

How many different kinds of hats can we put Russell Crowe in? Like, he can be, like, a winery owner. What was that romantic comedy? I feel like there was, in the trailer, there was, like, a tennis court and wine. And lots of wine.

And Russell Crowe wearing, like, little smart spectacles. And then you have him as, like, Robin Hood. You can cast him however you want. He still seems like he's kind of a jerk. But he's not in this movie.

Yeah, well, no Russell Crowe in space. We have him. We have Michael Fassbender, thankfully. Well, that's because he contractually has to be in every other movie made in Hollywood. Yeah.

It's a rule. He's good. I'm not complaining. That's the thing. He's good in everything, but he's in everything.

Yeah, it's true. It's out of control. It's true. All right. Well, are there any projects in the works you want to tell people about?

Yeah, I just finished the first draft of the latest script. It's called Papaw Easy. And I want to make it maybe in the winter if we can get the money together, if not the following winter, because it's supposed to be set in the cold. Dead of an Appalachian winter. So, yeah, we submitted to the IFP labs for their emerging narrative, and we're just going to see how it goes.

I'm going to try to actually. Find people to front the money instead of begging for donations this time. I'm still working on that myself. Yeah, it's sad. But I feel like I've already asked too much of other people at this point.

But it worked to your advantage. It did. As much as you have to go through, it looks good. I mean, having watched it last night, it doesn't come off like a movie that didn't have the money to put together it. It looks really good on screen.

Thanks. Yeah, we had a good color correctionist who... who was a film school friend. So we got like a really cheap deal. It's all about pulling, getting people to. As always, it's all who you know.

Yeah, exactly. Well, where do you want to, what's the best place to send people to find out about it? Well, Papo Easy's nowhere yet. Or just, you know, you in general. I mean, also, you know, telling people about this movie.

Yeah. Just pilgrimsongthemovie.com and we have constantly updating screening dates and the like and you can get on there and see if maybe we're coming to a city near you we're going to Philadelphia at the end of this month and China in July so. Go to we have international listeners so if you're in China look. Up the new youth festival and whenever they announce their program so yeah that's all I know for the summer and then in the fall it'll pick back up so. Yeah very cool Well, if nothing else, we want to thank you for sitting in with us this week.

Thank you for having me. And putting together a fun show. I like working in, and specifically because I wanted to throw the movie option to you. So I don't know that we would have gotten to this one without that. Probably not.

But you never know because we end up on some strange movies. I just wanted to have a Kentucky theme. And I was like, it's either this or Harlan County, USA. And I didn't want. To go into the Harlem USA today.

It doesn't seem cheery, really. It looks interesting. I do want to watch it now. I know of it, but hadn't sat down and watched it. And then watching the trailer again, I'm like, this looks interesting.

But yeah, it's not a fun movie, is it? No, it's a great movie, but it's hard to watch. So yeah, thank you to you and thank you to Little Film Society for working with us and for letting us come bust in here and record. So thank you for letting us take over your space here. It is much appreciated.

If you want to find out more about them, they are at flyoverfilmfestival.com or the Louisville Film Society is at louisvillefilm.org. And music-wise, as we went into, I thought we would go with one of the newer ones, talking about her reinventing herself. But then I found a song that also completely ties into this movie, more or less. She did a song on that Vanley Rose album that was called I Miss Being Mrs. Tonight. which is all, it was written after Mooney died, and is all about her.

It's, you know, about her and him, and it's, you know, basically that relationship is the heart of this movie. So I thought, you know, what better way to go out than with that one? So a more recent Loretta Lynn, again with Jack White on guitar. So crossing over our genres here. Otherwise, that about does it.

We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening. I lie here all alone In my bed of memories I'm dreaming of your sweet kiss Oh, how you loved on me I can. Almost feel you with me Here in this blue moonlight Oh, I miss being Mrs. tonight like so many other hearts mine wanted to be free.

I've been held here every day since. You've been away from me my reflection in. The mirror it's such a hurtful sight oh I miss the un-missers tonight. Oh, I miss the un-missers tonight. Oh, and how I love them loving arms that once held me so tight.

I took off my wedding. Band and put it on my right hand. I miss being Mrs. Tonight. Oh, I miss being a missus tonight Oh, and.

How I love them loving arms That once held me. So tight I took off my wedding band And put it on my right hand I miss being a missus. Oh, I miss. Being a princess tonight. Yeah, this is Drifter.

This is a random Drifter, Martha. I just wandered in. That'd be great. I wish I could be called Drifter. It's not appropriate, though.

This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by The Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com. Talk hard!

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