193: Killer Klowns and Pull Up Bars

Okay, you bozos out there, this is Stephen Chiodo, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. It's showtime. The following feature has been rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised. Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.

I now declare this frickin' idiot convention open! What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Misty. And I'm Jay.

And we are once again in a vehicle. We've decided to give the road trip Officially on the road version. Another shot. I'm a boom girl. We are in the car.

Misty's operating as boom girl with the mic for both her and Jay. She's pretty excited about this new job. It's not fuzzy at all like the ones you see on TV. Well, those are high dollar ones. We're poor.

Nor does it have a stick. I'm sorry. Your arm is the stick. Yeah. We had to pull over off the side of the road and get a stick.

It wouldn't be the first time. What? You just want to go play in the random crap on the side of the highway. Not in particular. And dead things and poke them with a stick or whatever it is you do.

Yeah, I do that. So, we are on the road to some random convention in Indianapolis, so. Whose name shall not be mentioned, apparently. So, yeah, with that, um, we can get into geek activities. Do you want me to go or do you have stuff or.

You can go first. Uh, I don't have a ton that I haven't already talked about, um... You guys should have a backlog, because it's been a while. I'm here every week, so I have to go, God, I haven't watched anything since last week. So, thinking the one movie, I was kind of...

There's still that ongoing list that everybody has, but as a geek, you start going, God, I can't believe I haven't seen that. Or you listen to people talk about it, and you're like. One friend hasn't seen Casablanca yet. See, that's what I'm saying. It's like, there's stuff that you even want to see, but you just haven't gotten around to it.

So, I finally got one of those this past week. I watched The French Connection, which I had been wanting to watch forever and just had not gotten around to it for one reason or another. I don't know why, but I'd always meant to watch it and just hadn't gotten around to it. I don't think I know enough about the concept of it to really carry it. It's pretty good.

Again, I think it's almost built up so much as the type of movie it is and everything. And I've heard so much about one specific scene, basically. The car chase. So they, they, you know, they, all that stuff was sort of built up. So I got there and I think it was a little different than I expected, but still kind of amazing in its own weird way.

I don't know. I just kind of like like weird, especially like city based crime dramas in the seventies, like seventies was just such a weird, different feel. Especially for, like, those, you know, anything they set in New York or a big city and anything that's, like, centering around a cop or, you know, one of those situations. There seem to be a lot of those. But, I don't know, they just have their own feel.

And I think just the country at that time had its own feel and the movies definitely reflect it. So it was kind of cool just seeing that. I usually really don't like those kinds of things. You're wrong. No, I don't.

You say it like crime. What does it look like? Like crime movies or cop movies? I don't really like crime or that kind of movies. I like horror movies.

And that just seems boring to me. Most movies in the 70s just end up pissing me off. I do. You piss me off. Whatever.

Why are you living with me then? Because you pay the bills. I think I've seen The French Connection, but. I can't remember. I might have.

It's Gene Hackman. Might have been a long time ago. Yeah. And that's kind of what's, I mean, if it just was handed to anybody, well, I mean, it's got a good director, too. It looks good.

But Gene Hackman, like, relatively, well, again, he was one of those that was always kind of old. Like, he started off 40. But this is, like, the young 40-year-old Gene Hackman. And he's still, like, you forget because you kind of see him in older roles, but you forget he was kind of a badass when he was young. Like, he was, even if he didn't physically fit the roles, like, he just had such an attitude and would just, like, and mouth off to anybody and just like in the old movies he just punched people in the face and like and that's I mean here he's like a he's a kind of a loose cannon cop in the 70s and he's just like shaking people down and smacking people around and like kind of does whatever the hell he wants and it's it's really interesting seeing Gene Hackman in general do that but especially like him in that era when he was still kind of a badass and known for doing these unconventional roles I'm not buying.

It Like I said, most movies from the 70s, I don't like the feel of it. They always feel just like, I don't know. They all have the same feel. Too gritty. But not in a fun way.

It just seems like, ugh. See, I don't know. I like the grittiness of them. Again, I don't think I want to live there in the real world, but within the context of watching the movie, I like the weird tone that it has and the grittiness and the fact that everything is, everybody's kind of out to get them, especially in something like this. You watch him like, And everybody is against him because he's a cop.

So everybody he meets on the street, he just assumes is, you know, up to something, on drugs, you know, selling something, stealing something. I mean, he just, everybody is like an enemy to him except for the few people that, you know, he works with. And even half of those guys he kind of hates. Again, being that kind of cop, you know, like he rubs everybody the wrong way. So he's got, actually, Roy Schreider is his partner.

So it's kind of a cool watching those two together, too. They've got kind of a A good chemistry with both of them, especially back in the 70s. It's kind of both of them at their peak. I don't know. It's fun watching them together.

But, yeah, even the other cops kind of hate them. So it's one of those kind. Of cop movies. Yeah, I don't like cop movies. I don't know what to do with you.

There are certain ones I can sit through. Some of them kind of get boring. But, I mean, you know, old cop movies like, you know, Serpico, stuff like that. Yeah. That was one of them I was thinking, like the early Dirty Harry, Serpico.

It's like that kind of stuff is just kind of awesome. Yeah, but I mean that's kind of, maybe it's because we kind of grew up watching that. Well, snuck around and watched as kids, you know, not necessarily got to actually watch it when our parents were around. But I mean every once in a while the edited version would come on TV and you would sit and watch it. More or less just watched it for the violence.

Yeah. Just wanted to see people get blown away. Well, in this one, its main big selling point, and that's the thing, it is like the car chase scene. And the car chase is cool. It's not what I expected because I'm used to modern day, well, probably more like 80s car chases where it's a car chasing a car.

He's trying to catch a guy on a subway. He's chasing a subway car in a car. And it's like, it's an L. Is he in the subway? No, I mean, he's on the street in a car.

He's on the street, yeah. The other guy's trying to get away on the subway. If it was modern day, he would be chasing the subway in a car through the subway. Well, no, he's mostly on streets. And it's like an L, so it's like riding above.

And he's like trying to keep in sight of, you know, which one he's chasing and ramming. And that's the thing. Once it got started, I was like, eh, it's not as big a deal. And then as you get into it, I'm like, okay, yeah. He's just like...

Beats the hell out of that car. What car is he driving? Is it like a Maverick or something? Well, that's the thing. It's not even his car.

He commandeers it? He flags down some guy. He's like, I need a car. And just beats the fuck out of it. I'm in the police business.

I'm commandeering your car. I'm going to go destroy your car. Hand it over. So that's fun. And yeah, as you get into it, you see, because it's got a lot of stuff done.

POV. From a car. Careening into things so it's like that's kind of cool and I don't think people would see again when I started putting it into perspective I was like at that point you had like bullet. But other than that, like, you didn't have a lot of car... We hadn't gotten in...

Yeah, it's like we hadn't gotten into that, like, run of 80s, like, over-the-top, gratuitous, stupid car chasing that we're used to. So this was still. Sort of a new thing for people, so... Anytime I think about the cops commandeering cars, I always think back to So I Married an Axe Murderer, where he said, I'm gonna have to commandeer your car, and the guy goes, no, you're not. He goes, I'm a cop.

I need to take this vehicle, and he goes... i happen to know for a fact that you cannot commandeer my vehicle he just argues with the cop to the point where the cop's like can you please give me a. Ride see you think eventually that's gonna have to happen yeah somebody will just be like i don't i don't think i want to do. That so that's most of what I've been watching. The only other thing, and I was going to see if you'd seen it, another one of those that I, actually I even taped this thing. I remember when it was on TV.

It was the biggest deal in. The world at the time. And I taped it as one of those, I think I wasn't going to be home or I was working or whatever the hell I was doing. And I taped it and just never went back and watched it. So now I'm watching The Stand.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, I love Corin Nemec. Yeah. Once I got to him on the run down there, I was like, oh, shit.

Hell, yes. Misty's going to be all about this. I've seen that, but it's been years. My favorite part was, I like the other guy better, though. The guy.

Who played Max. Hedrell was in it. Oh, Matt Brewer, I think. Matt Brewer, I think. I love it.

Me and my mom, we used to watch that. Have you watched. The whole thing? No. That's the thing.

I hardly ever get a chance to watch it, and it's freaking long. So I'm only about a fourth in. I'm that first night in of the miniseries. Oh, then you haven't got to the, my life for you. No.

Oh, my God. I don't remember anything of the stand. Molly ringwald in the stand yeah unfortunately that might have been the only reason why i watched it because i had the hots for molly see. I was the opposite i think that's what deterred me for a while i was like but. Gary sinise is awesome but molly ringwald's in it i don't know.

And corin nemig i love me some corin nemig he's so i follow him on the twitter now which i hate. The twitter yeah i'm still not really big on twitter it's useful on occasion but It's not fun, really. I'm on there just so I can follow people like Corin Nemec and Norman Reedus and Sean Patrick Flannery. But yeah, Corin Nemec, he's so dreamy. He's kind of nerdy in that movie.

He's super nerdy in that movie. Oh yeah, very greasy. His hair has that nice little matted down greasy look to it. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's a long book.

I read the book once. I remember it had 1,038 pages. It's the longest book I've ever read in my entire life, and I can't guarantee it made a goddamn bit of sense. It's a long damn book. It's a long damn miniseries.

My mom got so mad at me because she was trying to record it when it was on TV, and apparently I changed the channel on the VCR to MTV so that when it kicked on to record the stand, it ended up recording. This was back when MTV actually played music videos. So, yeah, it was, like, I might have been, like. You were taping Headbangers Ball, don't lie. What was the beach party thing that they always had?

Dan Cortez? I think it was when Simon Rex was on. Wasn't Simon Rex a VJ for a while? I don't remember. This was a while ago, though, so, I mean, I don't know.

Oh, whatever. I don't know. I was still in elementary school. And I recorded MTV instead of her stand, and she was not. Too happy with me.

I would guess not. But, yeah, I remember liking the stand. Again, I think I went in with low expectations. So once I got in there and I got the tone, I was like, oh, well, I do like anything that's, you know, post-apocalyptic. So it's like once we get into everything's already falling apart in the world, I'm like.

Okay, this is pretty cool now. I remember liking it, but it's been forever since I've seen it. And I do really like Gary Sinise. He's just a good actor. It's funny now that he just does a procedural cop show, and that's probably where a lot of people know him from more than anything else, but he's a damn good actor.

And that was really early on. I was talking to somebody at work, and I sat there trying to go, okay, did I know? I was like, I'm pretty sure this was pre-Forrest Gump, but I sort of knew. Who he was, so I had to check. Way pre-forrest.

It's no it's like that same year but it hit right before that yeah so nobody knew him as lieutenant dan yet but it was it was like it was like the beginning of that year i guess when the stand came out so i. Could have sworn that the stand came out like a couple years before um. Forrest gump no see that's the thing i was thinking it was early 90s it's like mid 90s so it's Yeah. It's weird. Well, I totally can't remember nothing.

Well, we know that. Are you sure it was midnight? I was pretty sure that I was still in elementary school. That's the thing. I think it just seems older.

Well, we still live in the apartment complex. It's like 94. I was 14. IMDB it real quick. I'm pretty sure I was still in elementary school.

Look it up. Settle this debate once and for all. I don't know about getting my phone back out. It's in my lap. Oh, God.

Brian already looked it up. We're good to go. I can look it up again while you tell your story. So, yeah, that was most of it. I'm still a quarter of the way in, so I've still got the whole rest of destruction and fighting and the evil forces coming about.

And my life for you! I'll wait for that patiently. I love that movie. I love that. I love Corin Nemec and I love Matt Furr in that movie.

Is it our turn? Yeah, you come up with stuff. Okay. What did we watch? Did we watch anything?

Well, last night we watched Dark Passenger. No, Dark Passage. I mean, sorry, Dark Passage. We've been watching a lot. Of Dexter, too.

Again, Dexter. That's what I was thinking. I was like, hey. Dark Passage with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren McCall. That's that cool situation Dexter's got going on.

Yeah, that's great. It's a good movie. Excellent movie. We just happened to be flipping through channels and were kind of lazy on a Friday night and ended up on KET and they were playing KET 2 and they were playing old movies and I like old movies. I see you like old movies.

I like old movies too. Yeah. That won you right over, didn't it? So anyways, we watched it. It was great.

It was a good movie. I thought it was pretty good. What did you say? It was like one of the first POV movies shot. Most of the beginning of it was shot off from Humphrey Bogart's character's perspective.

I don't know if it would ruin it to tell why they changed perspective pathways there. Yeah, maybe. I would just, I don't know, not so much. I would just say it's just about him pretty much escaping San Quentin. Because they think he killed his wife.

Yeah, and somebody's framing him for a bunch of other murders, and it's just him on the run. And then he meets Laura McCall, who kind of went to his trial, and she thinks he's innocent. She's probably one of the only handful of people that think he's innocent. And she kind of takes him in and helps him out. It's a good movie.

And he has to try to figure out who actually killed his wife. And that ends badly. Yeah. The funny thing is I haven't paid attention to what was on TV in quite a while now, but I did flip through and saw that was on and probably would have watched it, but it had already started. It was already, like, well in that, like, halfway point.

So, like, fine then, never mind. I think we came in right at the beginning, so we may have missed it. We missed the prison break, I think. Yeah, we may have missed the first five minutes of it, but, you know, sometimes I can... I mean, you knew what was going on within the first couple seconds of the movie, so. a big fan of the the perspective shot though like walking around like you're humphrey bogart i didn't like that the actors were like talking to me because they're talking to the character and they're like looking right at you and i'm like don't look at me yeah that made me a little bit uncomfortable laura mccall was super hot then so to be my super geeky uh they did an episode of tales from the crypt where they did it as humphrey bogart remember that and.

It was all pov they they it Again, they were just trying to do it. I'm sure now seems horrible. It probably looks horrible. Well, it was one of the beginning stages of CGI. Yeah.

You just saw his face in the mirror. In the mirror and a couple other reflections. I was trying to remember what that was from. Tales from the Crypt, yeah. I think it's Robert Zemeckis did that episode.

Yeah, I had got it mixed up with, what was it? Creepshow. I couldn't remember which one it was from. It was one of the mid-run, I think, of Tales from the Crypt. Yeah.

Yeah, it was. It's kind of that same thing. It was a cool idea, but I don't know that it plays out, especially since I haven't seen it in years. I'm sure now it would not hold up technically. Probably not.

But it's a cool idea. Yeah. But then I got sad because I was trying to, well, we turned it on. It had already started, so I didn't know what it was. So I was trying to look it up and find out more stuff about it.

And I ended up looking up, you know, more bio stuff on Humphrey Bogart. Because I don't think he was ever really an attractive man. So I was trying to figure out if he was ever hot. I found his bio, and I was reading about how he died and everything. And it was just so depressing because he ended up getting esophageal cancer from, like, all that smoking and alcohol.

And by the time he died, he only weighed 80 pounds. That is just. He's the same height as me. Well, just a little bit taller than me, but 80 pounds? Jeez, that's like half my body weight.

Yeah, that is not good. I mean, guys back then weren't, I mean, you didn't have like, I don't know, guys nowadays and guys... You didn't have cancer warning. Well, yeah. I mean, they just don't look the same.

I mean, guys back then, they looked rugged. They had to work. I mean, there were a few office jobs that guys worked at, most of them. I mean, they were rugged back then. They had to do shit.

You didn't have the metrosexual pretty boys you have today. No, you didn't. And a majority of people smoked because back then... It was cool. Well, not so much cool.

It was just everybody did it and nobody knew the health hazards of it. A lot of people drank. Yeah. I mean, I know older guys that I grew up with that lived in the neighborhood with me that started smoking when they were like eight, you know? Or guys that were drinking when they were 12.

I mean, that's just the way they were back then. They didn't have so much a ban on cigarettes and stuff like that. So, I don't know. Good news. easier for them to get them. You think back, it's like, most of the big leading men at that point really weren't, like, pretty boy.

You know, they weren't the kind of guys who now would catch on, but, yeah, your Humphrey Bogarts and, like, Clark Gables, I mean, they're just, they're kind of badass and they're kind of, like, they're, like, They were. They were rugged and they were, you know, kind of badass guys. And that's what I guess they wanted. They were in action movies and, you know, gangster movies. Yeah, I mean, you've got to look at people and, you know, I mean, you look at what's hot now and look at what was hot back then.

Yeah. You know, I mean, you look at women back then. I mean, God, women back then were gorgeous, you know. But you didn't have to be. But you didn't have to be, yeah.

And there was a certain attitude that went around with it. It's like... Most of the time when you turn on TV nowadays, you know, maybe it's just me, but most women I do not find attractive anymore. The whole, you know, the plastic face and the hair and stuff like that. It's like.

Definitely not that breed. No. And a lot of the other ones, even if they are attractive, are almost interchangeable. Especially with, like, well, actors and actresses. I think, you get that way.

It's like, they all kind of have the same general generic look, I guess, so they can cast them in whatever... But at the same time, they're all forgettable and interchangeable. And there's the over-sluttiness and shit like that. I don't know, you know? No more classy dames.

Definitely not like there used to be back in the day. Yeah, it was an interesting movie. I mean, I guess. It was pretty good. I was tired.

You know? I'm sorry. I get engrossed in old movies a lot of times. There's certain movies that I don't really, it's like I wouldn't normally go, hey, I need to rent this movie. But if I sit down and it's on, I get sucked into it.

And then I get really sucked into them. I think old movies are like, it was kind of that same thing. It's like I kept meaning to, of mine earlier, it's like I kept meaning, and once I was into it, I was like, man, this is awesome. Just like looking at the visual style and being in that time and. Place, you know.

Yeah, I mean. I mean, people complain about movies nowadays. That's fine. You know what? Go back and watch some old movies that you've never seen before.

There's a ton of them. There's a ton of them, and good actors and actresses. None of this fucking Jessica Alba and her damn wooden acting shit. No Megan Fox. No Megan Fox.

Wait, who? No LaBouffe. No Toe Thumbs. None of that bullshit. Who the hell is.

This Megan Fox character? I'm just saying. Yeah. I was listening to an old episode recently, and it's funny because we'll probably see him here today, but I remember it was just when they dumped Megan Fox from the third Transformers movie. And Mikey called in.

Metal Mikey called in and was like, I'm telling you, give it a year, you won't see or hear from this girl again. Seriously, what's the last thing she's turned up in that got any actual attention? She did that one movie with. The angel thing nobody ever saw that I don't think I ever I don't think I ever would have heard about it except you saw in the trailer yeah that's. The point where you get the desperation where it's like I'll take my clothes off please just put me in a movie.

You know But seriously, it's like she got dropped from Transformers 3, Jonah Hex tanked, and that was it. She has not had nobody like Jennifer's body. Jonah Hex came along, nobody like that. And then that was it. They'd had, you know, enough strikes from her that she was out.

And when's the last time anybody's paid any attention to her? I haven't, again, I haven't even heard that. She's not even a news enough. Is he having Brian Austin Green's baby? Well, there's her punishment right there.

Well, the thing is, nowadays, it's like, people are hot, they're hot for a second. Yeah. You know? You don't have the lasting star quality. No, you don't.

You don't have the lasting star quality like they did back then. You know, you just had, you had people and they were stars for a long time and you put them in a lot of different movies. Nowadays, it's like you use them for one or two movies and then it's on to the next hot one. Yeah. I mean, you're, it's, It's an amazing span if somebody stays in, you know, the A-list movies for ten years.

Yeah. If you're one of those kind of actors, yeah, you better start cashing in. Exactly. Because once you get old, they just retire you and you get bit parts. No, you've got to play people's parents.

Yeah. You're certainly not going to get a leading role at that point. Yeah, you end up playing people's moms. Mm-hmm. It happens pretty damn quick.

Yeah. Yeah. I think, what was it? There was a movie coming out with Mila Jovovich and she's somebody's mom. And I was like, oh man, come on.

You're supposed to be kicking zombies in the head. I know. That movie comes out next week. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I don't give a fuck if it sucks or not or if you don't like the franchise or not. I like it and that's all that matters. They're fun. I mean, yeah, they're not going to win any Oscars or anything, but they're good. They're fun.

And Mila's still, oh my gosh, she's still so hot. It's ridiculous. I think they've gotten more fun as they've gone along. She's a huge nerd, too, and that's a big plus. You know?

Anything else you've watched? I watched Bedlam, which I'm sure nobody else has watched. It's one of those British issues. It's okay. It wasn't as good as Misfits or....

The fades the fades. Was awesome it was it was all right it's it's way too convoluted to get into so i won't even bother but it was okay so either check that out or don't. So there's the recommendation oh yeah while uh while you guys were gone to the fair uh and not seeing uh Skid Row. Sebastian Bach. Fuck that rain.

Sebastian Bach. I stayed at home and ate vegetable soup and watched Where Eagles Dare with Clint Eastwood. You watched the movie with him? He came over to our house? It was an empty chair, so it's the same thing.

But fucking damn, that movie is fucking awesome. You want to see a bunch of people get shot? Clint Eastwood kills the most amount of people, I think, in any fucking movie. In that movie. There's nothing but him just shooting Nazis through the whole damn movie.

It's a great movie. It's an awesome movie. I'm not going to go into it. Just rent it and watch it. It's a good old movie, especially if you like war movies, which I do.

Very cool. Let's talk for a second about this here Sebastian Bach show that did not happen. Oh. Oh, good God almighty. I love the fair.

I ain't gonna lie. I love the fair. I love the fair food. I love. I hate the fair.

I know you do, boyfriend. Which is why we did not attempt to drag you along. Yeah, I forgot the year before when you were miserable. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I guess we don't want to make him go, huh? No, you don't.

Because there's too many people there and I don't like it. And they're extra ghetto people. He becomes a pissy bitch. But we went because I was excited because... I love me some Sebastian Bach.

I know he's a fucking retard. I know he's an absolute fucking idiot. If you actually listen to him talk, you know. He's just. He's special.

He's very special. But I love me some Skid Row. I love Sebastian Bach when he sings. I think he has one of the most amazing. He's got a good voice.

Yeah, he's got an amazing and powerful voice for that type of music. He can do so many things. He's done Broadway. He's done playing out rock and roll. We saw him as Jesus.

For God's sake. Yeah, we did. He got fired for being too much of a rock star. How do you get fired for being a rock star if you're Jesus? I mean, Jesus in a way, he kind of was a rock star at that time.

How do you get any bigger than that? Apparently they didn't approve of his air guitar. Jesus might have done air guitar. You don't know. He was sort of a breaking character, and his normal dorkiness was coming through.

But vocally, he was amazing. He does have, I think, one of the most amazing voices in rock. He was no Carl Anderson. No, Carl, he was amazing. He was amazing.

But, you know, I think he has one of the best voices, and I was so excited when we get there. And, of course, it's nice and beautiful when we get there. Mm-hmm. We get into the fucking stadium. Before we even find seats, they come over with a loudspeaker.

Uh, we're expecting storms, so everybody has to get out. They kicked everybody out of their seats. People have been waiting for hours to get their seats, so that was not a happy crowd. Mm-hmm. So we were like, well, I don't want to stand around with all these fucking obnoxious, drunk, unhappy people.

So we walked around the fair a little bit longer. Hours roll by. Oh, they're not going to cancel the show. They're not going to cancel. They've never canceled the show.

They're just a little bit longer. After Misty repeatedly was bugging old ladies at information booths. Dude, they need to fucking know shit. Which, you know you're hardcore if Misty's going up to talk to them. Because she's antisocial as you get.

How? I want to know what's going on with Sebastian Bach. Look, 80-year-old lady, tell me all about Sebastian Bach. Dude, they stick these old people in these booths that don't have a fucking clue what's going on. They give them a schedule.

And then they said, okay, if anybody has any questions, give them the... And just repeat. Just regurgitate the fucking schedule. Yeah. Stick some people in a damn booth that know what the hell they're doing.

Not these old people who are like, I don't know where to do something. Well, listen, for their benefit, they were giving us the information that was given to them. So it's not like they... Didn't know. They were just telling us what they'd already been told.

It was nothing. Yeah, it was a whole bunch of. No, it was. Oh, 9.30 it'll start. 9.30 it's definitely gonna start.

And then 9.30 rolls around. Oh, no, no, no. 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock it's definitely gonna start. No, no.

10.15. We're still waiting. We're standing there. It's like a lightning and thundering and shit no 10 30 they're definitely gonna let you in at 10 30. 10 20 they kicked us out raining cats and dogs and I was busy watching Clint Eastwood blow the fuck out of Nazis.

We were standing around with drunk, annoyed people. That was fun. Yeah. But yeah, they kicked us out. What do you mean let's wait for the rain to let up?

They were like, no, you have to get out now. You have to close these doors. I'm like, motherfucker. It's fucking raining out. It's pouring down.

You're worried about Sebastian Bach getting struck by lightning, but oh, let Misty get struck by lightning. That's what it fucking is. But I love the fair. They had some disgusting shit there this year. They had the.

Buffalo-style chicken on raspberry cream-filled donuts, and I'm sorry, but that sounds fucking disgusting. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what's up with the fair the past couple years, but it looks like they're just trying to out-gross. And I don't know, basically it's like the Kentucky state fair. How fat can we make our people?

Can we give somebody a heart attack here? Cause I think that's really what they're going for is they're trying, they're trying to make somebody die of, you know, some kind of blockage in the middle of the fair. That way they could say, yes, we have accomplished what we have set out to do with our Krispy Kreme grease filled donuts. Um, hamburgers and whatever else fried things they've got if they if if they can think of it they'll stick a stick up it and fucking fry it and then give it to you that's basically what they do there you. Know it's getting to that point when like over with the condiments you know ketchup mustard here's some napkins here's the paddles to jolt you back to life when you drop on the ground next.

To the place. I bought a hamburger and I'm still not entirely sure it was actual meat I think it was Soylent Green Soylent Green. Is fair people that's. What happens to the ones that die there they just turn them into food recycle reuse they had deep fried girl scout cookies too which could have been good I don't know. I think every time I go, it's like I start working.

Because I can never find a good option of what to eat. But I want to eat something stupid and fair-like. Because you're there. That's the whole point of being there is to eat stupid, fair food. But it's like a process of elimination.

So this year was check off the list. Don't eat chili cheese fries for dinner. You get fried Kool-Aid this year? Specifically fair-grade chili cheese fries. Because it's a great idea in our fat American ways.

Yes, I like chili cheese fries. But this was, like, straight out the can of Hormel. Oh, good God. With, like, nacho cheese, like, dipped out of the bucket. It was crap.

And the fries weren't even good, so. Remember Creepy Sean? He used to eat cans of Hormel chili right off, right out of the damn can. He'd heat it up on his car, on the engine, and eat it right out of the can. What a freak.

He's just trying to be weird at that point. But anyways, I love the fair. I'm still disappointed that I did not get a fucking yardstick. You're one of those people. Those yardstick people.

Thank God they quit giving the yardsticks out. They didn't. They just weren't giving them to me. I saw a shit ton of people carrying yardsticks. They were all old people.

They only give them to old people. No, there was a couple young'uns there I saw. They stole them from old people. Pushed them down. Took the yardstick.

But yeah, I love the fair. Let's get back to something else we watched. What else did we watch? We've been catching up with Dexter. We watched season three of Dexter.

We're very behind. We're on season three and we just started season four. Did we ever talk about Sherlock? Did we ever talk about that? I don't even remember the last time we've been on the damn show.

I think you said you were watching it, yeah. Okay, we finished that. That was awesome. Mr. Cumberpatch is awesome as Sherlock.

I know they've got a new Sherlock coming to the U.S. Which kind of really just looks sucktastic and stupid. Everybody seems to say that. Well, I mean, they're trying to... Basically, they're watching...

I guess TV now watches BBC, and they're like, well, what can we copy from the British and then try to put our cool American spin on it and make it all wacky? They made this one totally different. They put Lucy Liu as John Watson. Is she Joan Watson? No, I think she's Jane or Joan.

Yeah, I think she is Joan. Which, you know, okay. I guess that's kind of a cool idea, but, you know, sometimes... Ideas just need to be left alone, you know? It's okay if you're writing something new, but it's damn Sherlock, man.

Keep it fucking Sherlock. Don't fucking go off and, hey, let's do this. You know what would be cool? I like Johnny Lee Miller. That's Sherlock Holmes.

He's got tattoos, and he's kind of wacky. He just looks stupid, and he looks obnoxious. That's the thing. He's playing it really weird. I like Johnny Lee Miller.

He can pull in really good stuff. Yeah, he's good in hackers. That's about it. Well, wait until you get a little further into Dexter. He's actually pretty good in a couple of seasons.

I don't think he can be any better than naked John Lithgow. There's so much man-ass in that that I really did not. Need to see. Like three episodes in. John Lithgow is on the top of my list of guys I don't need to see naked.

Nobody's hotter than John Lithgow. He is quite fucking psychotic, though. He's amazing in that season. I'm hating Quinn, though. I was pretty excited to see him at first because I love Desmond Harrington because Wrong Turn was fucking awesome and I loved the hell out of that movie.

So I'm like, ooh, it's Desmond Harrington. He's an ass. yeah he's kind of always like he's kind of a little bit of a dick but i mean he's your normal dick cop i mean that's the role he plays he pretty much. Nails it yeah he doesn't really get much better he's just kind. Of like that yeah but i mean he he plays the role good i. Think yeah you just don't like him as a character but he does a good job at it no but that doesn't mean anything there's been tons of really good actors uh that have played characters that i just fucking despise you know And then that ends up hurting them in other things that they act in.

For like a long time, I saw something, I don't even remember what it was, that had Christopher Walken in it. And he was so good in that role that I just fucking hated him in real life. And it took me a real long time to get over that and actually like Christopher Walken again. Nice. I don't remember what the movie was, but it was in Pulp Fiction, I think, was by the time I got around to where I was like, you know, Christopher Walken's not a bad guy.

I mean, he hit a hunk of metal up his ass for, like, I don't know how many years, so he can't be all that bad. Do you think he really carried it around for several years in preparation for the role? I think some actors actually go to an extreme, so I would say probably yes, Christopher Walken is nutty enough he probably shoved a watch up his ass for a while just to get prepared for the role. Okay. You never know with actors.

They get hardcore about their intense preparation. Yeah. Some of them make you call them by the character name for the entire time of the movie. I heard that What's-His-Face is really bad about that. Daniel Day-Lewis, doesn't he go apeshit nuts about shit?

He's pretty intense, yeah. I heard that when he was playing Abraham. Lincoln in the new movie, he actually had to be addressed as Abraham Lincoln. And when we're done, you have to shoot me in the head. Yeah.

That'd be awesome. I don't know. Well, I heard like Russell Crowe, you know, on, what was it, Master and Commander? Was that the ship movie? Yeah.

Where they made everybody actually go out on a ship and they all actually had jobs and they had to, you know, they all had to sew their own shit. I thought when Daniel Day-Lewis was in, what was that one movie where he was in a wheelchair? My Left Foot or some shit like that. I had to watch that in school. Didn't they actually, he actually made them push him around in a wheelchair all the time during the entire filming of the movie.

Possibly. I think I would have broken his leg. Just so. You want to feel how it is? Okay, here.

Okay, but leave his left foot alone. Crunch. Leave his left foot alone. Yeah. There you go.

Now you know. I don't think we watched anything. Oh, we probably did. Now I probably remember it in about ten minutes. More than likely.

I can't think of anything. I don't know. I mean, I think the last thing we finished up on was Supernatural, and then we went right into Dexter. And that was about it. You want Supernatural Walking Dead, didn't you?

Yeah, yeah, whatever. I can't remember. Thanks for going to watch V so I can prepare to meet Mark Singer. I love Mark Singer. Yeah, V, I hope it lives up to, and I probably know it won't, the way it was from what I remember as a kid.

Because I remember seeing it when it came on, and I thought it was just the coolest thing. Yep. Which now I'll probably go back and just be like, oh, this sucks. It's been that long since I've seen it, I think. I'm kind of worried myself.

At the time, it was the coolest thing around. Do you remember the TV show The Master? Yeah yeah i mean i remember as a kid oh yeah yeah and. Shoko sugi i mean i remember as a kid that coming on tv and just thinking that was the coolest fucking thing ever i did too yeah we're in the middle of ninja mania so everybody was a ninja and i had like as a kid i had the ninja suit and the fucking boots and we lived out in the middle of nowhere and i ran around and You know, hacked up trees and, you know, stupid... Caught shit on fire.

Yeah, caught shit on fire, you know. So. Ninja vanish! Ninja set the entire field on fire! Great, now Ninja's in trouble.

Ninja, oops. Ninja's in trouble with the fire department. But... And that's another story. Yeah.

But, uh. I don't know, you know, you go back and watch some of those shows. Like, I tried to go back and watch Airwolf. I still like Airwolf. But....

I guess now maybe it's, I don't know, it's kind of like video games with me. I remember playing video games and I was just like, God, this is fucking awesome. I got to go back and play this. And it's the same with shows. I get in the middle of it and I'm like, dude, I've already done this.

Why am I doing this again? And then I just kind of lose interest in it. So I don't know. Nice. That's what I'm afraid of.

There's so many of them that I thought were awesome that I'm pretty sure if I went back and watched now, I would lose a lot of respect for it. Well, I've never seen V, so you're going to have to. Just suck it up and watch it with me. I don't remember a whole lot from V. I just remember thinking that it was really cool, and I think I liked the outfits, and It was.

A cool look, especially for the time. We hadn't seen a lot of the other stuff. No, and it had... I think Robert Englund was in it, wasn't he? Yeah.

And he was the quirky alien that was trying to be human. Yeah. Never could get the sayings and, you know. He was the one good one on our side. He was the dorky alien.

There's a huge thing that you aren't supposed to know about that I'm not going to say about. It was real big, and then you found out about it, and you were like, oh my god, this is the craziest thing ever. Yeah, can't tell you about it, but you'll figure it out as we go along, if you don't already know. It was pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy.

It's the whole thing of them, we come in peace, we come in peace, and then you find out what they're actually there for, and you're like, oh shit. Dude, you're getting too close to what it might be. Hush up. Okay. Do we have anything else to talk about, or are we good?

Lollipop Chainsaw. I played through that. That's a pretty fun game. You gave up, and I had to win the level for you. I have a short tolerance for video games nowadays.

I definitely do. But, yeah, I'm going to get through there, and then I'm like, you know what? My thumbs hurt, my back hurts, and I want to go lay down. You were like, I can't get past this level. Fuck this game.

Yeah. That was James Gunn, isn't it? So there's your dorky movie thing. Yeah, I mean, it's a good game, and it's fun to play. The only complaint I have about that game is there's not enough save levels.

So you could be playing for like an hour, die, and then it takes you all the way back to the beginning of the level that you started at an hour and a half ago. This is why I don't play games anymore. You're like, God damn it, fuck! It really was an hour and a half. It was like 20 minutes.

Felt like an hour and a. Half to me. I beat it the first time I went through it. Yeah, well, it's because I had the controller warmed up for you. That should have been a hindrance because you've got your sweaty little mitts all over me.

The butt is slippery. Whatever. I kicked its ass. You did? The game's pretty awesome.

It is incredibly fun. You can kill a lot of zombies and you do a lot of high kicks and there's pom-poms. It is awesome. I love that game. But yeah, it is James Gunn and I love me some James Gunn.

He is fantastic. He has weird feet. What? He has weird feet. Oh, I thought you said he had weird feet.

I was like, what are the pictures of his feet floating around on the internet? I'm sure there are. Alright, so just to not leave people hanging, what's it say? I have to read that. What do I have to read?

The Stay in 1994. The Stay in 1994. Do I have to read the description. Or are we good? No, you were asking that a year.

Do you not remember already? Yeah, but I already looked it up and I forgot to tell you. Jesus Christ. That's what I'm saying. It just feels like it was older than that.

It's like some of those other things. You remember it more of like... It's almost like an 80s thing, but you. I don't know. I think we're just mixing it up with the day after.

Another weird 80s shit. But no, it's 94. I like that movie. What? The day after.

Okay. Yeah, it had a cool. Tank in it. There's nothing I like about that movie. All the death and destruction.

It makes it more fun. Oh, okay then. Oh, yeah. God, that was so depressing. I remember seeing that as a kid, just thinking, I am never going to make it to even C20.

I'm never going to have sex. That's what I'm saying. We were so worked up into a frenzy at that point in time. I swear. I mean, at that point, I was pretty much convinced I wasn't even going to make it out of high school.

Yeah, that's pretty much what it felt like. That's why you sucked so bad at it? Yeah, I was like, why fucking try? I'm going to die anyways. We're going to die in a nuclear war.

You know? There was no reason to try. Maybe that's why... I don't know. Maybe that's why we all just kind of didn't care.

I'm telling you. That's what happened. All right. If we're done with the Geek Week, we can wrap it up for now. Take a break here, and we'll see what happens at the old convention.

I only want to say. If there is a way. Then take this cup away from me. For I don't. Want to taste this poison.

Feel it burn me. I have changed. I'm not as sure as when they started. Then I want it. Popcorn freshly popped and buttered.

Look good? Sure it looks good and it tastes even better. Get some now. It was a night like any other night. Then something happened.

Did you see that? Something different. It's the shooting star. Why here? Why now?

Why clowns? They've been knocking them dead all over the universe. What are you gonna do? Knock my block off? Soon they'll be doing it at a theater near you.

Killer clowns from outer space. Killer clowns from outer space. It's crazy. Isn't it rich? Are we a pair?

Me here at last on the ground And you in midair Send in the clowns Isn't it bliss? Don't you approve? One who keeps tearing around and one who can't move. But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns.

All right, we're here with the Chogo Brothers. I guess, where were you guys from, first off? No, we were born in the Bronx. We're from the East Coast. Born in the Bronx, raised on Long Island, Deer Park, Long Island.

And what was your original interest in art or movies, or how did you get into it initially? Actually, the first thing was, you know, monster movies. King Kong, Mighty Joe Young, Send Voyage to Sinbad. Yeah, a lot of the stop-motion films of the 50s and 60s really got us into monster movies. And then was there a point when you felt like you wanted to move into that or was it just something you sort of did as a hobby when you were kids?

Well, Stephen has said that it was an extension of play. We used to play with our play dinosaur sets. We used to do monsters. We used to play in the woods, always running from, we'd recreate the monster movies. When we'd go into the woods, you know, we'd be army men, you know, running away from dinosaurs.

And then when our family got a Super 8 movie camera, we started, you know, playing with the camera, telling stories and making movies. Yeah, we always wanted to make movies without really knowing what that meant because we're from the East Coast. It wasn't really, it's not a business, not an industry there. So, you know, we just figured out how to do it ourselves. I think that's how most kids start out, just, yeah, kind of wanting to do it and not knowing how.

Was there any stop motion with the Super 8 at that point? We were experimenting with stop motion with a camera that didn't have a single frame button on it, so we were taking four and five frames. Animation wasn't what we were seeing on television, so we were disappointed. Yeah, we didn't know if we were doing it right. Then we got a tripod, then we pushed the button really faster, and then we got pseudo-single-frame animation.

Then we made puppets. We had clay figures, and we tried to make Harry Hasen type films in Rankin and Bass, one of those holiday specials back in the 60s. We were doing that kind of puppet work as well. Very nice. So I guess what was your initial crossover into the professional end of it?

Well. I went to school for illustration. Edward went to school for theatrical design and lighting. Stephen went to school for cinematography, animation, and photography. And Stephen wound up getting a job in the film industry before anybody. he went down to Washington D.C. and started working with a stop motion animation studio yeah we did a clay actually the first clay animated feature it was called I Go Pogo based on Walt Kelly's Pogo comic strip it was all clay animation and we produced it back in the late 70's in Washington D.C. when that film was finished Charlie and I worked on that We went to California.

Ed met us maybe about a year or two later on, and we started producing films and doing special effects in Los Angeles. And I joined them a couple of years later. And mainly, it's funny, when you move to California, they don't let you just make movies. So we had to make a living by using our art talents. And we started doing effects and props and other people's projects, TV, movies, commercials.

So there was never a plan early on to team up together... as kids and made it happen? Oh, it's really funny. We made films together as kids, Stephen and I. Edward was a little younger at the time. But Edward pursued it after we were older.

Edward was pursuing filmmaking too. So it was just natural that we came together. I think we always felt that we'd be making films together. I pursued illustration. I was working in news graphics in Manhattan... while Stephen went down to Washington.

When we went to California... We realized that this is what we wanted to do, and it was something we enjoyed, and we were living our dream. It's interesting, too. When we came to California, it just kind of epitomized what it is. We were storytellers from way back when, so we really had to create our career in California in order to do movies.

As kids, some brothers have issues getting along. Was there something like that? Did you guys still have normal... Brother arguments? What do you mean by normal?

What have you heard? Have you heard that we're called the Kyoto Brawlers? Exactly. You're always saying that. That's what people believe now.

We never fight. We always get along. Shut up and give me the microphone, god damn it. The thing is, we argued as kids playing. As an adult, you argue when there's differences of opinion.

The fights that we've had were creative arguments over things like whether the sea monkey should be wearing shoes or should have webbed feet. And, you know, we get into some heated arguments about it. It's silly. When you look back on it, it's kind of silly. Those are good arguments, actually.

You go back, way. Back, on the internet now, you can see one of our old films, The Beast from the Egg. And on the tail end, you can see Kyoto Brothers Productions logo. So way back in the 60s, we were still talking about Kyoto Brothers Productions. That's what's really funny.

We did Kyoto Mation for another Kyoto Brothers production, and it's really funny. We have a sign here that says Kyoto Brothers Productions. We have a company that has a great reputation in Hollywood, Kyoto Brothers Productions. So, yeah, you know, I think we did have it planned. Oh, yeah, I can remember when I was in high school.

I was entering film festivals, and we lived in Deer Park, Long Island, but our address was 158 Park Avenue. I used to throw the 158 off, and I used to put Kyoto Brothers Park Avenue, Deer Park, Long Island, because our dad worked at the post office, and I knew he would get to us. I guess it started off pretty early on, and we're involved in Vincent. Well, Stephen was actually. Contacted by Tim Burton, this young animator at Disney.

And he had this idea to do a stop-motion thing, and he'd heard that Steven did stop-motion. Oh, yeah. It was actually one of our first jobs when we came to California. It was in the early 80s. Got a call from these guys at Disney.

We called them the Disney Boys. Rick Heinrichs, his production designer partner, and Tim Burton. And he showed me these storyboards. from what was supposed to be an illustrated book, like an Edward Gorey-type book with Vincent's story. And then we worked together and collaborated, and Rick Heinrichs made the puppets. I did the stop-motion and cinematography with our old DP friend, Victor Avdolov, from our Pogo film.

And that was very early Tim Burton, but it was a really wonderful, wonderful little film. It's one of my favorite short films. It's amazing. And then we were fortunate enough to work with Tim again on Large Marge and Pee-wee's Big Adventure, his Fairytale Theater episode. A bunch of things along the way.

And we were supposed to... He handed us the storyboards for this film called Beetlejuice. He wanted us to do the effects in that, but we were busy doing our film, Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Well, before we get that far, I did want to go into Large Marge. I have to say, I think that is one of the defining moments in every kid's life at that point, and probably generations now.

That. I was not prepared for Large Marge. We really feel pleased that it is one of the plum parts of that film, and it's great to be a part of it. It was a great sequence and a great gag. It was really fun.

It was pure Tim Barton. You know, his timing, he had that gag. He came to us because he didn't know how he was going to pull it off. Now they do it with some kind of crazy CG morph, but actually we built a clay head. We did a casting of the actress, and Stephen did a clay press, and then we dressed it with makeup.

Oh, yeah, we had the wig that the actress wore, and we had her wardrobe. We tried to bring as many real, live elements to it, but the real trick was that what made the clay look a little bit more lifelike was the fact we put makeup on it. Wow. And creepy. Yeah.

Well, that's, yeah, I think that's why that works so well is, you know, it's a weird moment that catches you off guard, but it's also so well done. So that's, yeah, very good. So then I guess into Killer Klowns. Where did that concept originally come from? Well, Stephen asked himself a question, what was the scariest thing that you could see?

Yeah, so for me, I imagine driving up a lonely mountain road and having a car pass by, and when I looked to see who was driving, it's a clown. I mean, for me, a clown being where it's not supposed to be was pretty freaky. And then from there, we built the concept from outer space. Yeah, the fact that if you looked at what if the clown next to you wasn't in a car? Well, then it would have to be from outer space.

Anyway, it's really funny. The reason we actually were entertaining... a film like killer clowns is no one was interested in doing our stop motion features which are expensive and time consuming we heard that people were looking for low budget ideas that could be done with guys in suits so we said well what are people afraid of you know what this clown this scary clown idea would be great and we developed it. It's still an unconventional idea how did it go trying to pitch it to studios. It's funny actually um We had a friend who had a friend who had just gotten a line of credit to produce motion pictures. So we went in with a 20-page treatment, one sheet of artwork that Charlie had done, a clown holding a puppet gun overlooking a sleepy town, and then Steven had done a sculpture of the similar clown image.

Went in to pitch it to Trend World Entertainment, Motion Diamant, pitched it, sold it in the room. We didn't... Take it anywhere else. Our very first motion picture pitch, we sold. It in the room.

That's impressive. With a synopsis. It wasn't even a first draft screenplay. I think what attracted him to it, I don't think he got the concept. I think he just liked the title.

He thought Killer Clowns from Outer Space was a title he could sell. And then when they found out who we were, our background in the effects world, that we could actually deliver this for the low budget. That's going back to old 60s movies. I mean, that was sort of the drive-in thing and the little grindhouse thing. All you needed was a poster and a title and you could sell it.

That's what he did. He had no idea what we were getting him into. The art department didn't get a great part of the budget, but we do what we do. Actually, whatever money we had, we created the clowns, the props, the sets, and we were able to shoot it in Santa Cruz, which had The only requirement we had was we needed an amusement park by a beach, and that's what Santa Cruz had. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, did you imagine it catching on? I guess it was sort of a slow build over the years, but the audience that it's found now is pretty impressive. Yeah, well, it didn't get a very big distribution run. I think in Los Angeles, it was pick of the week on the LA Weekly. Then they closed after one week, so...

They kind of trashed it. I think it got its audience on cable. USA Cable ran the hell out of it. And a lot of people were just home watching it again and again and again. And then they loved it and then they showed their friends.

And then those people got married, had kids, and then their kids watched it. So it's like multi-generational. And as for us knowing what we were making, we just really kind of set out to make a movie that we would like to go and see. That's usually when you get the best end result anyway. I mean, thank God it went to VHS because most of our audience saw it. you know, on videotape because it was in the theaters for a week and, you know, just for like a marginal distribution deal, just a few theaters for a week across the country.

It didn't have 5,000 theaters in 3D. You know. That's that phase. It just kind of hit videotape and the fans were just sort of finding that market and discovering film. I mean, that was the market that made the film possible in the first place.

It wasn't for. the explosion of vhs the video market it wouldn't. Have been made they were planning on the vhs. Market yeah pretty much i think theatrical release was just a way to promote the film for as far as video distribution. And oddly enough it's come full circle and that's how they do it now. Well we've been trying to get the sequel rights for a long time.

For about the last 27 years, 10 years, it was in legal limbo, going from one place to another. It was in litigation. It was in legal hell, basically. And eventually, MGM and Sony... Actually, MGM got it.

Sony took over MGM. They at least had the... the idea to put supplemental material when they released it on DVD. So we were thrilled to be able to show them the artwork, the development, our kids' films and everything. In fact, it's the best supplemental package, I think, of any DVD. That sells to fans now, yeah, once they see all that's on there.

Well, I guess it changed a little bit to Critters. Is that something that came to you with that project? We were very fortunate. Let me see, it was produced by New Line Cinema. Kevin Yeager, who was doing the special effects for the Nightmare series, was offered Critters, and he graciously suggested us to do it because he was too busy.

And it really was our first key job, key meaning that we were doing all the Critter effects in the film. That was our first job that we were being approached to key a show. And I remember when we went to the interview... We forgot to bring our book, our portfolio. It was the days before DVDs and videotapes.

So we forgot to bring our book. But they had told us what it was about. We had read the script. So kind of on the way there, Charlie had done some rough sketches of basically a furball with teeth. So the fact that we didn't have our book was, you know, we overcame that by being able to show them designs that Charlie had come up with.

And they were just hooked at that point. Yeah, which it would change from now because now you have to do, to prove yourself, you have to show a 15-minute recorded demo, you know, of what you do. Make it first and then show it off. Yeah. No, but that was a great thing.

Stephen Herrick was the director. Dominic Muir wrote it. Bounty hunters going after escaped furball, creatures that escaped from an intergalactic prison. We're in. Definitely.

And then Team America, is that another one that they were looking for someone to do? That was a funny one. Yeah, actually, Team America, we were the second company they brought in. The first company kind of dropped the ball big time. The movie was in limbo.

It wasn't going to happen. So they came to us not only because of our puppet experience, but our production experience. We had done our own productions. We knew how to. Really handle a special project like that.

So we came in and reorganized the whole puppet department and really helped make that movie with the talents of an amazing production staff. Did they already have a design? Did Trey Parker have something in mind already? Yeah, Trey wanted the marination. What was it called?

Super marination. Yes, Thunderbirds. Yeah, Thunderbirds. Jerry Anderson's super marination thing. He just wanted to kind of knock that off.

So the design style of the characters, even though they were caricatures of celebrities. He wanted it to be within that Jerry Anderson style. And then, I guess just, I mean, it's kind of a huge deal for anybody to work with in The Simpsons. Even more strange, I guess, that you're working in a different medium. I mean, they're animated in a different way.

So how is it that, and then how big a deal was it to be. Involved with it? Oh, that's a real treat for us because we love the show and it's been around for so long. So whenever they've got a little specialty gag with stop motion... Fortunately, they come to us.

So we've done a couch gag, and we've done, what, three or four specialty gags, stop motion. We have the distinction of shooting the first live-action person ever to appear on a Simpsons episode, Katy Perry. That's cool. Yeah, so whenever they go off-model, they come to us. We have a lot of friends over there, so we get to work with David Silverman, Mike Anderson, all the guys.

And the angry dad was kind of a fun one. That was fun, yeah. I mean, to do a parody of Aardman and then have... Nick Park be in the episode. Yeah, and he liked it, so that was like a good kudos for us.

That's great. Did you have stuff. You wanted to tell people out as far as new projects you have in the works? I know the Killer Clowns issue is tied up. Do we know where that stands at this point?

If Killer Clowns... was under our control, we'd already be doing Killer Clowns 5. There'd be three versions of the video game and the TV series already on. So it's on a back burner. Negotiations are in the works to see if we're going to be able to do something with it. In terms of Kyoto Brothers production, we're developing merchandising.

We're trying to diversify. The entertainment industry is different. So we're trying to get into different areas. What are some of the other projects we're working on? We have several feature film things where we're going.

One based on a book, our first children's book, Alien X-Men. We hope to do that as a grand stop-motion movie. There's another wild adventure on an open sea that we're out there developing. Oh, yeah, that's called The Italian Odyssey. It's about Christopher Columbus' younger brother, Guido, who goes out and proves the world is flat.

And does. Oh, yeah, and earlier Christmas, that's the story about these aliens that attack Earth, and they land at the North Pole, so Santa and the elves are the first line of defense against the alien invasion. Nice. The same old stuff, we just take two diverse elements and kind of smash them together and see what happens. Yeah, and the difficulty with that is selling original projects when everyone wants to just remake old stuff.

They're remaking old television shows, and I don't understand it because that's just as much of a hit and miss, but somehow because there was an audience that liked the Brady Bunch... They want to make a Brady Bunch movie. We complain about that a lot. It's such a weird product recognition thing that the corporates need just to make anything. If it's a title we've heard of, that's really all we need, whether it's good or not.

You have to vacuum with those bean counters, those corporate guys, those business guys. They don't have a creative bone in their body, so they second-guess the creative community by going to the accounting and saying, okay, this made money back in the 80s or something, so let's remake it. Nobody's always interested in doing Killer Clowns 2, but they wanted to leave it to Beaver to feature. Yeah, that's what we need. I think that was pretty much it.

Did you want to have people go to your website? No, I can't. Okay. Anything else you wanted to plug? Yeah, that is cool.

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Colonists be dead. Those colonists be dead. The aliens killed them. All right, we're. Here with Jeanette Goldstein.

I guess I wanted to get into, early on, were you planning on going into acting or anything in the performance? Absolutely. Yep. I always wanted to be an actress since I was a little girl. Had you started training, or at one time, had I read that you were a gymnast?

Oh, I did gymnastics from 9 to 12 years old. And then that was the last time. I was never a professional gymnast. No, I graduated high school and went to college and majored in theater and went to an acting conservatory. And after I finished that, I started working.

And lucked into a pretty good first job as far as film work? Yeah, you know, I mean, I'd been working quite many years on the stage, but I did luck out. It was an open call, and, you know, I had no agent or anything and was overseas. And, yeah, so that was my first job, you know, on screen. How is it described to you, the role of Vasquez?

Oh, well, actually, it was an audition. The audition noticed they just wanted actors, American-born actors, American and Canadian actors who could work in England. And it was for a movie called Aliens. And, you know, it crossed my mind briefly that it might be a sequel. But then I just thought since Americans, any immigrant in England, they're called a resident alien.

So I thought it was about, you know, Americans living in England, you know, who have like a green card or something. I don't know. You never know. This is why you should have an agent because then they tell you what the actual damn audition is about. So when you got in there, I mean, did they have...

Her in mind? Like, did they already have it set to be, you know, the accent and the look and everything? Well, I wasn't auditioning for Vasquez. I was auditioning for either, I'm not sure exactly which role, because I wasn't really sure it was either going to be the role of Dietrich or Pharaoh. That's who they were looking for.

But they gave me the lines of Vasquez to read, and I guess they gave that to all the women who were auditioning, because they didn't have as many lines. And it just turned out that once I read it, they started thinking, oh, you know, maybe we could cast her and whatever. Had you done that type of accent on stage before? No, I hadn't done it on stage. I've always been really good with accents.

And also, I grew up in Los Angeles, so I knew that accent. So, you know, I'd heard it, you know, growing up. So, but yeah, no, I love doing accents. And then did they, I guess, work in a little bit of body paint to sort of give you a little darker tone? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I mean, that was from the start, yeah, because I'm pretty light-skinned with freckles, and so they darkened me up. And then you were pretty impressive on the pull-ups there. Had you been working out massively for that? Yes, I had been working out massively for that.

Many years. Actually, two years straight I had been weight training, going to the gym. And I was in the best shape of my life. It was just a complete coincidence that they got me right at that point. And, yeah, I was amazingly strong.

I mean, I can't even do... one sissy pull-up now. I'm not even close, you know. But, I mean, I actually, because I was a gymnast and a tomboy when I was a little girl, I used to do pull-ups all the time. So I always was really strong. I used to have a chin-up bar in my room and things like that.

So, and, you know, anyway, I actually won chin-up champion, high school chin-up champion of Los Angeles. Nice. I did ten pull-ups. The nearest girl, I think, did one and a half. So there you go.

You're showing them up. A little-known Jeanette Goldstein fact. Well, even the gun you're carrying is almost as big as you are at that point. Exactly, yes. Height is not my strong point.

But I guess the military training, you went through all that with the rest of the gang there? Yeah, they had a couple of guys. Two of the stuntmen had been in the— actually, one of them had been in the SAS, which is the British Special Forces— And, yeah, we went through gun handling and how to work as a military team. And, you know, one of the actors, Al, he had been in the Marines, so he added, you know, it was great. It was a really fantastic rehearsal period.

Well, the other thing I was going to ask is as far as the character itself and your relationships with Drake, and in particular, there's a very specific dynamic between. The two of you. Was that in the script or is it something that you guys. Worked on Well, it was in the script. But, you know, I mean, the two of us, we hit it off so well.

And we still are just close. Friends, best of friends. And I don't know. Yeah, you know, just obviously it was intimated in the script. But, no, I mean, something about, you know, Mark and I, we just really hit it off.

Because for, you know, little screen time on those type of relationships, it comes across so well. Thank you. Thank you. And then I guess just working with Cameron at that point in his career, I guess that was still relatively early on for him. What was he like as a director then?

Oh, just, you know, he's like been the same always. Like he just doesn't, you know, he doesn't change. I mean, he is focused and directed and expects everyone to work at the same level as he does. And, you know. He does not suffer fools, which is fine with me.

God help you if you're lazy or incompetent. That's how my father was, and that's fine with me. And he's just the greatest guy. He's talented and funny and very loyal to his friends and family and people around him. He's great.

Definitely. You worked with him a few more times. By the time you hit Titanic, was there a noticeable difference just in the way he operated? No. Probably a much bigger operation as a whole at that point.

You know, it was, but no. Absolutely the same. I mean, I know, like, speaking with Gail, you know, Gail Ann Hurd, who, you know, was his wife, was married to him. But before that, she said it was the first time. She met him.

She met him. She was doing, I don't know if it was an internship or her first job was with, like, the Corman Studios. Yeah. As a produce you know working there and she said the first time she she met him she ran into him he was in the um you know the painting division he was a painter and he she he showed her around the department and by his manner she assumed he was the head of the art department that she had met the head of the art department. Obviously and he was just you know like a secondary.

Assistant painter but he has always been that way you know i'm sure if you talk to his mom she'd tell you the same thing you know The other. Main one I wanted to hit, I wanted to talk about Near Dark. That came about at the same time, I guess. And from what I hear, you. Guys didn't even know.

You were all sort of looking at the same moon. Yeah, you know. it went after aliens opened I moved back to the United States and I was living with my folks and I got a phone call from a woman who said she was a friend of James Cameron's and she had a script for me and I couldn't figure out you know is this real you know she got my mother's he gave her she called him because I didn't have again I didn't have an American agent I don't know I've always had problems with agents it seems like no it's true I have that's my one problem um And so he gave me, well, I know her mom's phone number. And, yeah, you know, I read it. And, you know, I just didn't mention it to anyone because it. Was hard to explain.

Yeah. That you had read a script about vampires in the West and it was really good. You know, and I thought if I say this to anyone, I'm going to be so embarrassed. And then we, all of us thought the same thing. Yeah.

We all just thought, I'll just keep this under wraps. And then we first, we show up and there all of us are. I mean, it was crazy. Yeah. I was going to have you go into what you've got going on now.

Well, what I am doing right now, I mean, I have done, I just did an independent film. And hopefully this film will be bought and somebody will get to see it. But actually what I'm doing right now is I own two lingerie stores in Los Angeles. And they're called Jeanette Bras. And the slogan is the alphabet starts at D.

And we sell beautiful lingerie from Europe for busty money. Women. I don't know. It's hard work, but like my husband says, I'm doing the Lord's work. Was it something you were interested in beforehand, or did you just sort of fall into it?

No, I just kind of fell into it. What can I say? You can't go wrong with that. Or fell out of it. Not on her.

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All right, we are back in the car, heading back from the big convention. I'm fucking exhausted, dude. Yeah, me too. I don't know. I'm kind of wired.

You would be. That's good. You're driving. What? Oh, yeah.

It's been a long day. We got there shortly after the place even opened, I guess. And now it's two after midnight. And we're still... a couple hours drive. Yeah, we have an hour and 43 minutes to go.

That's until we get to our house. And we're going to your house first. And you live further away. So you suck. Whatever.

But anyways, it's been a fantastic day. We got to hang out with some pretty fantastic people. We got to hang out with. Lots of friends. We got to hang out with Randy, our, I'm pretty sure, one listener.

He's our one listener. Fozzie Bear, who is fantastic. He's called him before, hasn't he? Yeah, yeah, we're from Fozzie Bear. That's kind of like two listeners.

And Mikey. That's three listeners. Holy shnikes. We may have, some of the other people there may listen, but it's kind of hit and miss. Those are our three favorites, though.

Not that we really play favorites, but. You definitely do. Randy, Fozzie, Baron, Metal Monkey. Yeah. You're my favorites.

There's other people. And Lisa. And Lisa. Yeah. And Troy.

And Tabitha. Troy has listened in the past. He might still be out there. I don't. Know.

I sure as hell don't listen. Yeah, really. Yeah, I don't listen either. Neither of you can talk, so there. Well, I don't want to hear.

We don't want to hear ourselves. You're not on him most of the time. What? Did you just figure that part out? What are you talking about?

He's implying that we can listen to the ones that we're not on. Fuck, why would I want to do that? I'm not on it. Yeah, I can't listen to podcasts at work. You need to talk to your work.

This needs to be a change. It's too loud in there. I mean, there's too much work going on. They need to be quiet. A lot of hammering.

Be like, shh. No. No, that's the opposite of me. I'm as loud as possible. I'm listening to a podcast.

I'm purposely loud on purpose. Purposefully loud on purpose? I do it to drive the suits up the wall. They come in there and I hammer on stuff and set things on fire and cause the occasional explosion. Anything to make a lot of noise and scare people.

Should I complain about Metal Mikey now? We told him you were going to, so go ahead. Well, when we first got to this convention, they made us park across the street and told us that a shuttle would come get us. So we got over there, we parked, the shuttle brings us over, we're driving along a little road, and I see Metal Mikey walking down the street, and I get, like, super excited. I'm like, oh my god, it's Metal Mikey!

And I'm like, I'm waving, and I'm, like, all enthusiastic, and he fucking snubs me, like, blatantly, like. Snubs me. You know, in Metal Mikey's defense, you were behind tinted glass. Yeah, in a. Passing car on the road, and he was on the sidewalk.

That's no excuse. My awesome just shines through all of it. I did say he probably should have sensed the misty in the forest and been like, ah, she's nearby, I know it. But, you know. He did make an attempt to make amends for it during the day, so I guess I'll give him credit for that, but. we'll see if I ever show enthusiasm for seeing anybody ever again, because you see what it got me, and I'll say what I said earlier, a whole fistful of nothing.

Is that what. I said earlier? Yeah, I believe it is. I'm tired. Whatever.

It was a fun day. We hung out with a lot of people. I can't say, did I meet anybody new? Because I usually don't do well with new people. I think we met some new people along the way.

I shook some hands. Yeah. I forgot my hand sanitizer. What the hell are you thinking? She shook some babies and kissed some hands.

Oh, I don't touch babies if I can help it. I got hugged several times today. Out of control. I know, right? Hey, does Chuck ever listen to the show?

Hi, Chuck. I don't know if you listen or not, but thanks again. Thanks to you and your wife. And you guys are awesome. And your sculptures are awesome.

And anybody who likes cool magnetic hand sculpted stuff, check out Chuck. At skull13. com, I think. I think that's the website. I could totally be making it up, but it's skull13. So, there.

Like the number written out or the number like 1-3? I think the number 1-3. Yeah, it's 1-3 on the signage. I'm assuming that would be the website. Chuck's awesome.

Chuck is awesome. He's an awesome guy. And as long as I continue to suck my gut in, I'll look halfway decent in pictures, so. Totally thought you were going somewhere else with that one. I was like, wait a minute, what kind of situation is this?

How did we get those passes? What the hell are you talking about? Shut up. You did kind of walk right into that one. I love you.

So we hung out with a lot of awesome people. We had a good dinner with some fantastic people. Yes. It was a fucking huge-ass hamburger, by the way. I don't remember the name of the place that we went to, but it had a big hamburger.

The Lincoln Square? Lincoln Square. Lincoln Square, yes. I believe, yes. Home of the big-ass fucking $ 6 hamburger.

I mean, damn, that's a big hunk of beef you got to choke down. I mean, that's a big fucking hamburger. Okay, you did it again. Aside from. Aside from the nasty mayonnaise that they send out to you.

It's not getting any better. No, I mean, they give you these cups. Of mayonnaise, and the shit's already yellowed around the edges. I mean, it's just pretty damn gross. Mayo film.

Yeah, and then Randy got his, I don't know what that was he got. His chicken fish? His chicken that was breaded like fish that was just, really, I kind of felt bad. Get the hamburger. I kind of felt bad for Randy and his fish chicken, chicken fish.

He was very sensitive about it. Get the hamburger. Yeah, get the hamburger. The hamburger's good. Do not get the applesauce.

Yeah, don't get the very. If you're any. If you have a thing with texture, don't get the applesauce. You didn't even get the applesauce. I got the applesauce.

I didn't have to. I sat there and watched the look of shame and disappointment on your face as you tried to eat the. Applesauce it had chunks of apple actually. In it the hell yeah i'm telling you this is an applesauce that was like lovingly blended this is applesauce that some guy named carl in the back like pummeled with his fists and then stuck in a bowl and then served it to misty. It's not too pleasant but the hamburger was good and the fries were quite tasty.

And their cherry pepsi which is Actually, just grenadine with a cap full of Pepsi in it. Seriously? She was not skipping on that grenadine. No, she wasn't skipping on the fucking grenadine. She could have skipped a little bit on the grenadine.

Good God. Like, every once in a while, you know, I like a little bit of grenadine. You know, I mean, cherry Pepsi. Hey, you know, a little bit of grenadine. Sometimes a little bit more grenadine.

That's kind of cool. But when it's a whole fucking glass of grenadine and like one little bit of cherry Coke or one little bit of Pepsi in it. Sorry. You still inhaled that shit. Yeah, I can't help it.

I inhale sodas. I'm real bad. I'm like a soda addict. I'm like a, I don't know, like a heroin fiend of soda, I guess. Something like that.

Whatever. Whatever. What else do we need to talk about? You got some awesome interviews. Yeah, we got to talk to Chiodo Brothers.

We got to talk to Jeanette. So it's been a fun day all around. I got to hang out with a mildly intoxicated Linda Hamilton. That was so awesome. I figured that's where you would start, because that was quite...

I was working my way towards the end. Okay, let's get to the big finale there. You're bringing out the closer. She was very gropey, which I'm not going to complain. She was so intensely sweet.

She was very nice. I was impressed. She was just so sweet. She was kind of one of the big names there, and you don't... always know what you're getting yourself into with those people. Sometimes they can be great and sometimes you're like, oh, okay.

Sometimes they can be like the, what's his name from the Monster Squad? Noonan? Noonan, yeah. I, I, that's all secondhand. I don't really, I haven't dealt with it personally.

I haven't either. But then the guy that seemed really enthusiastic at the restaurant was, you know, like, dude, you're the greatest. And he just kind of looked at the guy. I was like, yeah, whatever. Get out of my way.

Yeah. Thanks. He did come into the restaurant as we were leaving. I wonder if he got the hamburger. I don't know.

I don't know. He is a tall dude. I'm pretty sure he wasn't able to finish it all either. But anyways, back to Linda Hamilton. Because we had got, I had been looking for her all day.

They had her back in the special Terminator room or whatever. Dude, seriously, that's where they had like, oh, we should talk about greasy-ass Edward Furlong. He like sleazed his way down the hallway several times. I don't think he has changed his clothes or bathed since the last time we saw him like a year and a half ago. It was just, he just looks so depressed.

And he has very incredibly bad posture. Yeah, he left kind of a film on the floor as he slid down the hallway, kind of like a slug. Snail trail? Yeah. I kind of envision if I had poured salt on him, he would shrivel up and scream, you know, but I don't know.

Yeah, he's looking pretty bad. I can kind of understand why nobody's going, hey, you know what? You know who we should put in the movie? Edward Furlong. Edward Furlong would be good for this movie.

Especially after his little TMZ appearance lately. I'm sure that didn't... Make his stock skyrocket. Yeah, I don't know. Part of me feels bad, but then, you know, I don't know.

And then part of me doesn't because it's like, hey, you're responsible for your own shit. So if you can't keep your shit together, then, yeah, it's your own damn fault. Sometimes that's the case. Sometimes. I kept trying to make my way back to the Terminator room, and we finally make it back there.

They're doing the Terminator Q & A. So she ain't in there. So it's like, finally walk around, then we go to E, by the time we get back, they've already closed all their rooms. So I'm like, son of a bitch, there's no fucking Linda Hamilton. You know, what the fuck, no Linda Hamilton.

So we go back to where Randy and Lisa's room is, and we was all hanging out. And apparently Randy gets this top secret message. He's like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do, and shit. This is the Randy network. He's people who knows people.

That's true. So anyways, he gets this secret message that Linda Hamilton's hanging out down by the fountain. I'm like, holy shit. Let's go. So we get down there, and I'm looking around, and I'm like, I don't fucking see Linda Hamilton.

I'm just standing there, like, and Brandy's, like, standing in front of me. He's like, you know, she's, like, right behind you. I look around, like, not even, like, what, seven feet away? Yeah, I'd say more like four. I don't know, I'd say it was seven.

Four feet is awful close. Yeah. Seven. Four from the edge. You didn't recognize her because of her cool hat.

She was wearing a leopard print kitty hat that had little ears, and it was ridiculously cute, and I was, like, so jealous. I totally wanted that hat. But anyways, I was like, we tried to figure out, like, all right, is she cool? Should we go ask her? Should we go talk to her?

Did we just, like, sit over here and stare at her like the creepers that we are? That's usually our M.O. Dude, totally. Seen her take a couple people walk up and take pictures with her and she seemed very very friendly and so that's kind of a good sign you know you don't want to barge in and just be like hey I really liked you in that one movie and then you know they're just totally like oh god okay yeah either they tell their bodyguard get this guy away from me or they take the picture and you know so she seemed really cool and really friendly really friendly very friendly yeah in fact which is you know whatever If you're going to get groped, get groped by Linda Hamilton, you know? Hey.

I have no complaints. She was in a very good mood. She was in a very good mood. May have had to do with some of those beverages, but. Maybe.

It might have been the liquored up gummy bears that were getting pawned off on her, too. Yeah. Yeah. Fozzie had a whole segment of pictures along with commentary to go with them, and they were pretty good. They were very entertaining.

Yeah, I liked his slideshow presentation. It had dialogue, and yeah, it was fun. Yeah. But she was excellent. I mean, she's great.

I'd forgotten that. Yeah, she was in Beauty and the Beast. God, my mom and I, you know, we watched Beauty and the Beast like all the time. That was one of my mom's favorite damn shows. But the main thing was that my aunt is a huge Linda Hamilton fan.

And I took a picture and just kind of sent it to her and was like, hey, Linda Hamilton, we're standing like right next to her. And my aunt was like flipping out going, oh, my God, she's the whole reason I have a pull-up bar in my house. You know. And so. Terminator 2, man.

Terminator 2. I mean, yeah, she was in awesome shape in Terminator 2. And that's kind of what inspired my aunt to get into just like awesome shape. And she was for a long time. I mean, she was doing the whole one-handed push-up deal and all kinds of cool shit.

But, you know, so we kind of scooted our way over there and kind of got a picture. I joke about her being slightly intoxicated, but she was. She was ridiculously sweet, and she was so incredibly friendly, and she just seemed like she was having a good time. And the fact that she was out there was impressive because you didn't see any of the other stars, especially the big-name stars. They weren't fucking hanging out with the people.

They weren't just chilling, getting free pictures of people. They weren't hanging. They were just in their rooms or probably somewhere being too cool for everybody else. But she was actually out there. She was just a person, you know, sitting there, and she was really cool, and it was really impressive, you know.

It was pretty cool. Like I said, we usually don't hang out that late after any of the conventions, so we usually don't know what's going on. I totally missed out on the Corey rapping session a couple years ago, and I'm never going to forgive myself for that. Maybe we'll hang out a little bit more, you know, from now on. We generally kind of wrap things up and hit the road early, but I think, you know, maybe now, maybe we'll stay a little bit later.

Depends on if you have awesome people to hang out with. Yeah, that depends. Yeah, it's been a great, fantastic day. And I finagled a picture with Linda Hamilton, too. I kind of coasted in on Boyfriend's Coattails.

And I liked her hat, and I told her. And then she told me that it was her friend's hat, and she had took it. So I was pretty excited about that. I'm like, dude, I don't blame you. I would totally take that hat, too.

But I'm pretty sure she would take me. She's probably still pretty buff. Probably. I don't know. She told me she still had it.

She said, you know what? I need to start doing pull-ups again. But, who knows. But yeah, yay for Linda Hamilton being awesome and sweet and gropey. I'm okay with being groped by Linda Hamilton.

It could be a lot worse. Right? Yeah. Can't think of anything else, really. Aside from the various chicks in slutty costumes, you know.

There were slutty girls in slutty costumes. Whoring it up. I was, but you yanked the microphone away from me. I mean, I'm going to start buying either stock in duct tape or push-up bras or whatever it is that they use to gussy them boobies up. Because, I mean, a lot of them were spilling over their tops.

Yeah, but in a bad way. In a bad way. It's like there's a way to do that where it is kind of. I don't know. It's always kind of tacky.

But at least there's ways that you can look good. Yeah. You can present things nicely. Well. There's times, I was just like, that's not how those are supposed to go.

Yeah. Like, you're doing something wrong. Yeah. Yeah, there were times where you're like, I'm pretty sure there's something that involves, like, rivets and steel. Something.

The one girl who was splitting from both ends, she had, like, her boobies spilling off the top and her, yeah, see her underpants. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not one of those, like, hey, underpants. You're like, oh, my good God. I can see that lady's underbreeches, and I don't like it.

Oh, geez. Yeah, there was a lot of jiggly cleavage today. A lot of bloody jiggly cleavage. A lot of bacne. That was just that one girl, dude.

She was... Yeah, dude. Wear, like, a mesh shirt or something, or, like, something fishnet-y, and then, like, put a shirt over that. Or realize that Bacne's not sexy. They had plenty of, like, tables of industrial-grade makeup.

You know? Capitalize on it. You know? If you're going to do that, then make it look like it's part of your makeup. You know?

A gore effect on your makeup. Yeah! You know? Like it's got spider veins coming out of it or something like that. You know?

Something cool. Camouflage. You're the pimple monster. Hot pimple pin-up! Pimple up!

Yeah, erase that. Yeah, get rid of that. That was fucking stupid. No, leave that whole part in. No, fuck you.

Leave it. Get it out of there. Fucking cut it out. Whatever, dude. Did we round that out?

I think we round it out. Alright. You feel rounded? Yeah. Tired?

Me too. A little tired, but I'm fine. This is more in a... What was the word I was going to use? What?

I don't know. Unintelligible. That's a good word. This is more unintelligible than normal. That's why I'm just wrapping it up.

All right. I'm tired. Good night. All right. Otherwise, that about does it.

We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek fee. Thanks for listening. Bye. I wake up exhausted.

It's not morning. It's back to sleep. So we dream me. We're lonely and we're happy. But there you are, angry with me.

Are you home? You stand up straight Are you alright? Can you get me off your mind? I live in the city Before you came here So let go and move on. We're strangers, we're not.

Friends I hate this and I hate them It seems exhausted and it's wound up To give me a place, it's just build. Up I'm the. Bastard that you let me You're. Too sorry, you ever meant me Are you alright? I can stand up straight Are you alright?

Can you get me off your mind? I am alright I can stand up straight I am alright I can get you Oh, well, you're exhausted. It's not morning. It's back to sleep to be dreaming. Oh, no, and what I fear.

There you are, angry with me. Are you all. Right? Like a small, dark state. Are you all right?

Can you get me? Off your mind? Are you alright? I can stand up straight Are you alright? In connection.

Am I going to be back next week? No. All right, see you later. This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by The Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.