205: Fred Dies at the End

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This looks like a little baby Darth Vader lying on its back. Kicking, trying to get over. Just kind of, you're like, Greg. I'm just going to let it go. So you guys have fun with it.

I'm saying my name. How about, Alan, you point to people randomly. Okay. Okay. I got this.

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You see what happens. It's not going to get any better from here. I'm either extremely important to be listed twice or I'm extremely forgettable. Who are you again? What's your name?

Yeah. Who let this guy in? You need to be a better warden. See, linking back to what we were talking about earlier. I'm sorry.

You can be like that warden that makes us all do show tunes. No, I just shoot people in the head. Keep that in mind for future episodes. There we go. I did every other time.

That's why we go in order. Because you can't handle the responsibility of that mess. I think it works. We all got it out there. Wrong.

And multiple times wrong. It's memorable. Yeah. Most of it man lucy is slick he's like shit he's on here twice i'm not listening to this cappuccino my butt i still drink coffee. The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.

It's time for the caffeinated movie geek hey. Greg do you remember what coffee we're drinking. Uh yeah clots of spit there you go that's it it's nice with something it's laced with something because it's not gonna get any better we we ramble on forever so we're just we're gonna take a break and we're gonna come back into the mess that started a long long time ago so you guys make sense of it we can't so sorry about that. So people tell. Me I've got great legs.

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And there was one question on everybody's mind. What's going on? It was the year the war came home. You must be really proud of your brother, huh? It's not my war.

Everyone's entitled to his own opinion. It was the wrong time to be a soldier. You want to go to Vietnam and get your face shot off? Not particularly. A hard time to be a parent.

Don't die. But for scott and ralph yeah yeah it was a good time we had naked people giving us free food to have a great time. You know we're gonna change the world ralpho his brother is. Over there risking his life for our country we don't even know he's dead don't keep pushing me i. Want you to stay with me and fight relax cliff Sage of Aquarius.

From the Academy Award-winning writer of On Golden Pond. Wow. Robert Downey Jr. Trying to make me paranoid or something. Kiefer Sutherland.

You are so weird. 1969. People are going to look back on 1969 and say that's the year everything changed. We're a show. That is ostensibly about horror.

Booby bouncing from the running. That monkey was Benson. He had sex with Kim Cattrall. Open your mouth so I can fill the void. Rats are gross.

Far eastern yeti have smaller feet than. So, like, what are we supposed to learn from that? You're like, shit, this is the one with the really fat guy. Yeah. Damn it.

Okay. They gave each other a Dutch rudder. It was fine. Apparently you've never been to makeitandy.com. Those are flaps, not doors.

Woody. Anyway. Who's Woody? It's a wiker with a booty. It looks like Mike's jerking it over there.

I'm going to class it up now. After that smut. Shows are most popular by the way they smell. You're a real black hole right now. He sure is.

I'd bang him. The horror of unreleased Beach Boys songs. There you go. Are you referring to my lady right now? Nope.

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Hi, everybody. I'm Tony Todd. You're listening to Movie Meltdown. Pay attention and enjoy the conversations, the unique conversations. It's part of your problem, you know.

You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's. Riddles are answered in the movies. And now, on with the show. from the budget. He got wired up All the paper on the ground Cause he loved the sound Rockin.

Out The alcoholic opera The echoes of. A bad. Time Down the fade of. The house. Thank you.

Well, like I said, I saw a lot of movies that most people saw when they came out and we might talk about later. I saw The Rope, which I'd never seen. Which one? It came up. It's Hitchcock.

Oh, Rope. I couldn't tell whether you said The Road. Or The Rope. The Rope. I think it's just Rope.

It's The Rope. Is it The Rope? Since when? I thought it was Rope, but it's The Rope. I don't believe you.

It comes up on the screen. The Rope. It's fun because although it seems fundamentally unserious, like a lot of Hitchcock is, I mean, not unserious. They're serious movies, but they're not serious about things. They're not, you know.

But when it gets to the part where Jimmy Stewart's saying, you know, I was wrong about that. Who are you to think you can do? I'm like, fuck you, America. There's just something great about that moment in the movie. And let's say I watch Jules and Jim, which is a good movie.

I have trouble keeping up with who's Jules and who's Jim. It's my only real complaint about that. But it's a good movie. And I heard people... I don't usually listen to other podcasts where movies come up, but I listened to one, and they were talking about movies that involve teachers.

And I wanted to, like, my mic wasn't on. I kept wanting to say, Pride of Miss Jean Brody. And so I just want to say that now. The Pride of Miss Jean Brody. I really love that movie.

Sadly, I just turned your mic on. Oh. It's like that one and also, oh, God, what is it called? Something Mr. Browning.

I don't know that one. Teaching Mrs. Tingle? Is that the one you're thinking of? The faculty.

The faculty's good. Yeah, see, that's actually one. I remember when I was in high school and I first discovered, like, Kubrick and stuff like that, I became, like, I started becoming a movie snob before I graduated because all these other kids were going out to see, like, scream 2 and all that dimension stuff and i was like because that was when i was getting vincent price and stuff like that i was like no i'm just gonna delve into the classics and so everything that came out from dimension i just chalked up as being shit which pretty much it is i mean scream was kind of fun but i mean i know what you did last summer and all those other things just with the faculty it's one i saw like a couple years ago i was like God damn it, I want to go back in time and say.

Listen, you dumb shit. Quit being pretentious and watch this movie while you're in high school because it's a lot of fun. It's fun. I mean, it's not original at all. Everything in it is stolen from other stuff.

But it's a lot of. Fun the way they throw it together. It's very much Invasion of the Body Snatchers. And there's also some elements of John Carpenter's The Thing when they're doing the whole testing and the. There's a lot of movies he steals from.

But, I mean, it's Williamson and Rodriguez, both of which do nothing but steal from other properties. And it's like a character actor's orgy, too, when it comes to all the different people playing. I mean, you know, Jon Stewart's playing a teacher in it. I'm not sure I want to see a character actor's orgy. I rented that the other day.

What are you talking about? I'm not sure. That's like when one time I saw Garcia Does Dylan. And it was in the adult film section. I'm like, this belongs in music, CDs, please.

Nobody's going to take that. What were you looking for in the adult section, by the. Way? What did you end up with, and would you give us your review? Yeah, I was looking for Joni Mitchell, because she's the most attractive woman who resembles Skeletor.

Wow. Still going Amy Mann on that one. Hey, hey, hey. Somebody always has... Yeah, I know.

This has come up before. I couldn't remember when. When she was lurking out in front of my house, which happened, she looks lovely. So I don't know what you're talking about. I keep having dreams that I'm with John Doe.

It's so weird. He was out in front of my house. I know. But in my dreams... I've got stalker pictures to prove it.

But I don't know if they're stalker pictures if they were stalking me. I just took pictures of the. But you took pictures out the window. I took pictures out the. Window of the weirdos that were hanging out in front of my house, both of which were rock star slash actors.

That's amazing. So I. I did that for... I used to live across the street from Richard Belzer, but Richard. Belzer's, like.

No, no. It's better than that. Richard Belzer's weird hidden bachelor. Pad that he had in Los Angeles that he. Only stayed at some of the time when he was filming Law & Order and living full-time in New York City.

I have a picture of him kissing a dude. Did I just say that on the radio? Yeah, yes. Yes, you did. That doesn't come as a surprise at all.

Richard Belzer, if you'd like to come on and defend yourself, go ahead and send us an email. We need to put him on this episode just as a special guest, even though he's not. People listen to the whole episode. Remember on Homicide when somebody had the big nude photograph of him before he was a cop? I remember that episode.

In the 60s, he's hitting a bong and he's sitting there stark naked. And all the detectives walk across to the gallery, and they're, uh-huh. And he tries to get them to take it down, but they're like, no, this is part of the show. It's pretty great. He's a legitimately interesting person.

I think he'd be okay with me having pictures of him kissing a dude. Cool. He's a good-looking dude. Well, he's got that going for him. I mean, yeah, if you're going to bother to do it.

If you're going to kiss a dude, you better. Be a pretty dude. It was actually pretty innocuous. Innocuous. Alan's laughing at the word innocuous.

What is innocuous here? Yeah. The smoking episode. It's funny how that episode we did back At Thanksgiving, it keeps coming up. It's amazing.

Remember we all brought food and stuff and we watched Blood Freak? That was a long time ago. About that time, I remember Trader Joe's had Thanksgiving stickers that were misprinted and they said, Gooble Gooble. Which reminds me, because we were watching Blood Freak, of Gooble Gobble from Freaks. And we are in Louisville, from which Todd Browning.

Originated. It's crazy. Home of the freaks. And remember that chick in frames? And then we were talking about amputees.

It's just like... And yeah, and yeah. You ever think about the order of the. We're having our very own flashbacks episode. I saw you with a chick the other night.

Yeah. Looked like Richard Belzer. And we're all having flashbacks right now to the previous episode. Like apparently they have flashbacks in Beyond the Black Rainbow. And the Simpsons.

Just the one flashback. And Full House. Oh, yeah, and Full House. Actually, what that scene kind of made me think of when I saw it, even though I quit after half an hour, was Elias Mirage's Begotten. I've seen that.

That's a little more cohesive, though. I had to quit after like half an hour. I was just, I couldn't, it was too fuzzy. I couldn't see what was going on. I tried to.

I was sick at the time. It was back when, yeah, I was sick. Well, I told all the stories when I was drugged up after surgery and watching stuff. And that was one I was watching. I was like, those were fun stories.

Thank you. I really enjoyed Saturday Night Fever. Yeah. You certainly did, and we all know. There's tears in my eyes.

Like, John Travolta, you're so beautiful. What happened to you? Why did the 70s die? Why isn't there still disco? If you want to be the dude that he's kissing, I'm sure that can be arranged as well from what we hear these days.

If anything, okay, and I know I'm going to touch on a sensitive topic because Fred's here, but if we can talk hipsters again. With hipsters, why isn't it? disco exist again because i mean it's so popular to be into stuff that was popular 20 30 years ago why isn't disco resurfaced i think. It's the advent of hips i think it's too easy like a sensitive topic with me i i think it's hilarious um you did go off on a tirade as almost just about my neighbors who turned out to be i thought they were hipsters but they're douchebags. Oh, okay. Well, never mind then.

We're cool on hipsters. It's fun to make fun of douchebags. My friend's roommate is a DJ for popular hipster clubs in town. I will not mention his name, but they have a large amount of weird disco clubs. What club around here actually has a disco floor?

That's what I want to know. What I've said about that is when you revive... See, I'm worried about the future of retro, and I know this is something that probably matters. Like, in the future, if you look around today, what is going to fuel... I guess it would be retrolium would be the fuel.

You've been sitting on that one, haven't you? He has. He's been banking it for months, waiting for the opportunity. He's been digging to find it. But what is it about now that will, to somebody in some hypothetical future, be something that they would want to revive?

And my feeling is when you revive the 50s, there's this optimism that becomes tragic. And so it's kind of cool. It becomes a layer cake, if you will. But if you revive the 70s, you're just like Scully and people think you're dense. It's like, why don't you let it die?

And people try to do it to kids. Like you'll see, they've tried many times to revive the 70s. You'll see, like, Kmart, the new 70s looks. And they have these innocent children who don't know because they weren't there. They didn't live through it, and they can dress them up like that.

The 70s is back in full force, not like the disco thing. But think about. All the guys with their 70s beards and their plaid shirts and their PBR beer koozies. That exists. I don't know.

The beards could almost be a throwback to the Victorian era, too. It could be. Yeah. And, I mean, sometimes you see those dudes have mutton shots. Yeah, it's like.

I mean, come on. I see more pictures of dudes with beards when I look at, like, you know, pictures of Civil War generals and not looking at pictures from the 70s. That's more like what. Alan explained one time, is that you bring something... I think you did.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know where we're going with this. Like, you wear something that looks stupid, but you know it's stupid, so it's it. Oh, the irony of irony. Yes.

That was a whole Facebook thing. Post-ironic. Yeah. So irony is actually about knowing, because if you don't know, then it's not ironic. I feel like beards are a throwback to the bog man found in that people, the prehistoric bog man.

Oh, is that what that's referencing? That's why I have a beard. The prehistoric bog man. Because if you look at classical dramatic irony, like Oedipus, you know, he says he's going to find whoever has angered the gods and is causing trouble, and It's not irony in the sense that he doesn't mean it. It's not hipster irony, like you say something and people know that you're...

It's dramatic irony because we know it's him. He means what he says. It's a dramatic... But the thing is, we know, dude, it's you, and there's all this other stuff. Dude.

So, I mean, irony doesn't have that one sense, but it's about knowing. One way or the other. But I don't think all hipsters know. See, they don't. They don't always know because they may wear a mustache that looks terrible.

And it's ironic because they know it looks bad. But if you know they know it looks bad, then it just looks bad and it's not ironic. But I think the fact that they know, the fact that they're trying that hard is what makes them a hipster. And back to your neighbor, also kind of a douchebag. Yeah.

Well, there is some crossover I've found. Because when they first moved in, I heard them talking about something that used to be cool but wasn't anymore. And I thought, that's hipster talk. Hipsters are moving in next door. But it just turned out to be some random thing that actually used to be cool and wasn't anymore.

Yeah. And they're douchebags. I see what you're talking about, about. The future of retro. That makes sense.

I mean, are people, like, back in the 80s, did people consciously think, okay, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, this animated series, it's going to collapse for a decade, but it'll come back. Or the same with, like, Rubik's Cubes or Hula Hoops or, you know, God, I'm trying to think of some other trends that have just kind of, cycled over the years, but I mean, it's like, does somebody consciously think about that when they think of the product? It's like, I know this will fail initially, but give it 10 years, and then people will. Be like, you know, hungry for it. I can say that the answer is no.

Oh, sorry, you were about to say something more interesting. No, I was not. No, you were. I was just going to say about slinkies, like they began... Never mind, okay, I'll take a mic.

Slinkies.... That was great, though. I don't know what I was going to say. It actually began as a revival because it was just some dude who saw a spring do this thing and he thought it would be a toy and he got it put in a store. And it was a failure.

His wife knew nobody's going to want this. So she went to buy them all. or at least some of them. And she got there and they were sold out because it had already become retro. On the day they set out, there was already a revival somehow. People were fighting for it.

And so they got them. And the other thing about the Slinky, which is interesting, is if you let one dangle and let go of it and film it, you see that the bottom hovers. Because the rest of the slinky will fall until it gets down to the bottom of the slinky. Because this part of the slinky doesn't know you've let go yet. It doesn't know.

That's really fucking cool. Yeah, you can watch this. The slinky doesn't know you've let go until the rest of the slinky gets there. To tell it. Or it could be the motion.

Well, I'm not going to say. No, it really. I like the slinky up is equal to the speed. I like the way Fred says it. Physics doesn't know.

See, the only thing I can picture is the old SCTV sketch with Count Floyd's Monster. Chiller Horror Theater to where it's like the night of the slinky. That's the one thing I always liked about those old shows. We were even talking about how a future episode of what happened to people who were popular. You can almost do one with every single person in that show.

It's like Rick Moranis. Where is he now? Dave Thomas. John Candy, I haven't seen him in anything for 20 years. What the hell happened to him?

He's a slacker. My favorite is, and you can even see it online, is the Midnight Cowboy when John Candy. I think John Candy's even playing... He was in Midnight Cowboy? In the SCTV remake, and it's the 3D version of it, and they're like, hey, that's a nice shirt, and they go....

You'll have to look that one up. It's a pretty good one. Well, I think the future of retro thing that you're it is one of those I do wonder and it's because I recently saw because we always do that well you're making fun of the 70s and we all kind of make fun of like hey remember the 80s and Rubik's cubes and you know it's a very visual thing you can picture stuff from the 80s it all looks like Max Headroom in your head but like I saw on a Facebook post the other day that was like you know you're a kid from the 90s when and whatever like they inserted something that was like happened last week to. Me and i was just like wow but at. Least i had like all right yeah that's very 90s but i'm like what is the odds you know it's like what was that time like can you think of anything that feels like very zero to ten.

Ish i'm trying to make some films because um i know there's been i know i've seen films where they push it's like this is a new cult film coming out it's like You can't push something as a cult film when it's coming out for its first run because it doesn't have a cult following. Unless it's the slinky movie. No, I remember vividly having this conversation in science class in probably the fourth grade with Kevin Siders. And he said, our era is so not cool. Like everything else.

Before has been cool and the 80s are not cool. And we're never going to have, and he didn't say distinguished because we're in fourth grade. But he really, and I was just like, well, I don't think that's, I mean, I remember so vividly having this conversation. I was like, well, nobody's ever going to like the 70s, but I think we have some pretty cool stuff now. And then in the 90s, there was the 70s revival.

And I was like, well, the 90s doesn't have anything because it's all retro. It's all the 70s. And then now there's this grunge revival where it's like retro, retro, where the flannel and the boots and the skirts all come back. But it's retro 90s, which was actually retro 70s. And Like in the 80s, it was retro 50s.

Exactly. But see, the weird thing is, like what Fred was talking about earlier, is you think back to the 50s, and it's like that pleasant on the surface, but just the paranoia underneath. It's all about the feeling of the culture at the time and then you get into the late 60s, early 70s and just sort of the hippies and the movement around the war. It's like 80s it seems to be more focused on what television cartoons were on. It's like it became, for the 80s, it's more superficial.

Well, it was that much partly, too, because we move into an era where there's not anything that's definitely on now. So people remember it. Remember back when we all watched the same thing? Yeah. Because it was on?

Well, now we're scattered. People now don't have that so much. Everybody watches their own thing. Everybody has their own YouTube channel or they're watching whatever they want on Netflix. That depends partly on what the future is.

Yeah. What is striking about the past? Sadly, there are standouts. Like, Justin Bieber will be... this decade. Like that hair will be this decade.

Did you see the post where somebody said, some kid said, do you feel like the Beatles stole that haircut and all this stuff from Justin Bieber? I'm just saying. And then they show Liam Neeson saying, Whoever you are, I will find you and I will kill you. Yeah. This girl in my class, like, two weeks ago was like, did you know there's a, like, a real Words With Friends you can play?

It's called Scrabble. No, maybe not. I know. It's just Scrabble. But she was serious.

She was like, it's Scrabble. It's called Scrabble. And she was, like, not being ironic or anything at all. She's just being dumb. She's just being like a 19-year-old girl.

Dumb. All right, whatever. There's, like, a real Word for Friends. There's, like, this real-world Facebook where you send people letters. I don't believe that.

You know, my daughter, somehow I miss the 80s. Like, I wasn't conscious during the 80s. But my daughter says, you can say to my mom and dad, oh, look at that, that's so 80s. And they're like, is it? It's like, yeah, we don't recognize whatever the 80s are unless it's like leg warmers or, you know, just something obvious.

If it has 80s written on it. VH1' s I Love the 80s. That's how you know. Which is so 90s. I love how they had I Love the 90s.

It was like 2002. I love the 90s. One of the only music videos I ever saw. I don't know any. I never saw MTV.

I don't know. I don't know what I was doing. But there was a Neil Young video to a song called Wondering. And I worked with a guy who was a huge Neil Young fan, and I said, I like that one video. It's sort of stop action, and it's sort of doo-wop, and it's Neil Young.

He's like, no, that's not Neil Young. I'm like, yeah, that's Neil Young. He's like, I would know. I would have seen it. But it's on YouTube, you know?

So that's what YouTube is for. You can learn arguments you had with people before everything was on the line. You mentioned that the only two music videos I can think of from the 80s are Thriller and George Harrison's I've Got My Mind Set On You. It's like, those are the only two. That was a good video.

Yeah. It's all Duran Duran for me. There was actually an alternate video for that. I didn't have cable then, so we had that crappy music video show. That came out on Saturdays.

Maybe. No, the box was the Canadian, I think. It was like fake music videos that they made for songs that weren't like the artistically created videos. But anyway, the one for that song were these two kids in an arcade and they were playing that claw game. And he had.

His mind set on this ballerina and the claw game to give to his girlfriend. I think she was watching karaoke background. Yeah, I think so. But I saw that before I ever saw the real video. Wow.

Maybe we can find that on the YouTube and prove I'm not crazy. Nope, too late. But I don't know. I think there's not... Again, we're not in that era anymore.

We've moved into the next two years here. We're moving ahead in... do you think there's any feel to those last 10 years? Like the first 10 years of that new decade? I've got a theory for me. I, because I don't, I was, it's Fred's blur.

Yeah. It was like my blur. And, uh, because the eighties, I clearly remember cause I was a young child and I was absorbing everything from the eighties. Uh, but I had my children during, you know, 2003, you know, that whole era. And, um, You know, babies where you're changing diapers and you're worried about all the baby problems and every monthly doctor visit and all those.

And it was a vacuum. Like, it happened in a week and a half, I think, in the aughts. And I was decorated by Disney. Right. And I remember.

The one thing I really remember about him was the Lord of the Rings trilogy because we had one of the cable channels for free when my daughter was born. And every night that she would be up screaming, crying, I would rock her and the Fellowship of the Ring would be on. One of the eight channels that we'd have. I'm like, okay, I'll watch it again. And it just burned in my brain that that's the only thing that existed during 2003 to 2008.

I'm just wondering if we're, again, because I don't know if people realize the amount that the Internet is changing society. And like you said, there are no arguments now. Like you can just look stuff up. If because everything is so accessible now that we're kind of losing that identity and it kind of kicked in in that 10 year period. So are we now like starting again?

Because now kids. Can go back on YouTube and watch stuff from the 70s or whatever. 90s, or they can watch whatever they want. They don't have to pay attention to what's on TV. Most people don't have to.

Sorry, go ahead. You can think about past generations and how a decade is clearly defined by certain styles, but I mean like globalization has pretty much done away with it. Everything is so quick. It's like a fad. It does not last for years anymore.

It is like it's gone. It's like a flash in the pan. So there's just so much. It's like, what are we really going. To hold on to?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Are we starting to lose all of that stuff because of that? And for that same reason, because now we're connected to every part of the world that we don't have these little like pockets of just our neighborhood was in this or just whoever was, you know. Whatever network was putting this out. I don't think we're going to lose it, but I think it's going to make I Love the 2010s.

A whole lot longer. I mean, it's going to be like a four-year series. And also what you were mentioning, actually, I think it's sort of branching off of that. I think since everything is out there that... It's going to be a little bit less everything because since you do have all these shows available from every decade, that's when you start to take it for granted because it's just there.

Yeah. I mean, when we were growing up, it's like you watched it because that was the only thing that was on and you were glad. To have that. Now it's like if you've got all this choice of the main things, it's like, yeah. I feel like it's.

I feel like basically the more there is, the more there is to take for granted. And as such, there's less of a passion for anything. Yeah, you don't attach to anything. And it probably started when we were kids because you started getting that cable seeping in. And you had that Nick at Night thing came along.

And, like, all of a sudden these shows from the 50s were shows you were watching every night. So I think, you know, we started attaching ourselves. But kids now, like, have no concept of that. Like, they're just exposed to everything constantly. Yeah.

Speaking of Nick at Night, I just share this memory that just flashed back to my brain. In eighth grade, the Patty Duke show came on on Nick at Night. And a kid that was in eighth grade with me, we had a fight for weeks whether or not Patty Duke actually had a twin or not. If you had the internet. Right, if we had the internet.

And I kept saying, if you watch the credits, it doesn't list two people. Oh, they're just doing that because they're messing with you. There's another person. There's no way. They had that technology back then.

There's no way a hot dog makes her lose control. It's like when I drove my mom through a drive-thru the other day. They had the window you pay at and the window, same girl. And I didn't know, is it like a twindo? Or is she.

Running from one to take the money and then up here to get. They only hire twins just because they're messing with you, man. My son's business idea is he's going to start a rival McDonald's where you choose whichever. Pay at whatever window you like. See, I like the fact that you keep working in all these words.

You've been thinking about it a lot. Now you've worked in Twindo. You better patent. All these things and start trademarking them now. I think that every decade has a unifying identity, and I think we're too close to it now to know what it is.

I mean, I think it will always be cultural stuff, standout cultural stuff. I think now it will be a lot more technology, like what technology will seem completely archaic in 10 years, and you'll identify things with what we used to use. What do you own right now that's archaic? Yeah. But, I mean, I guess the question, because, I mean, We could almost just find out from the table what, like, since we were talking about the 80s earlier, what movies do you think of as defining the 80s when you think of that, just off the top of your head?

Because for me. i was going to say that's john hughes anything pops into my mind less than. Zero for some reason it's all simple it's all back to the future I don't remember the 80s, but I know that's the first movie I saw on VHS. But see, that's why I threw it out there, because you were saying that you didn't really remember that much, and I wanted to find out what stuck out for you. I just know that that, because I looked it up. But it's funny, he's like 85.

I mean, that's very much as John Hughes or it'll be like, you know, Pee Wee or The Goonies or just the. Stuff that's gone. See, I don't, at this point. I don't think of what I originally thought of. I think of what they market as 80s.

See, when you say The Goonies, I didn't care about The Goonies at the time. But now everybody goes on and on about it and always did. But like now it's like marketed as an 80s thing. And that's what I think of because it wasn't. And that's what I'm kind of.

Yeah. And I did. I was saying that's what almost Fred was talking about. And it's like, do you honestly think that when John Hughes was making all these movies, you know, like Ferris Bueller's Day Off, he was considering that they would have that. Does anybody make movies to where they consider that it will come back 20 years down the road?

No, but I think, again, I think it's because of the way we're marketing it now. Because I don't think we had that before the 80s. I don't think they were like pigeonholing stuff. This is really 50s. They were drawing from it, but they didn't market it like, look at this from the 50s.

We love the 50s. They didn't do that. But they now sell things as 80s. Styled you know they had that whole series of vhs that were i love the 80s themed and they had a separate cover for that whole series that they put out and i think it's that kind of stuff that's like giving us this identity and almost like overtaking what people think of as the the way that they're marking. In it is taking over the way a lot of people even remember.

It probably I guess the question is then, I guess we could almost chew over it, and I almost think it would kind of grow along with what Greg was saying, it being the Lord of the Rings trilogy, as to what movies would define the first decade of the 2000s. And I couldn't think of anything on that. I already talked about this once, because at the end of that decade, everybody was doing the best movies of the decade, and none of them hit the spot for me, and eventually I thought, aha, This was the decade of the HBO series. That's true. That's something that came along that we never had before.

That's really what defines the decade more than any one movie. It seemed to also be the rebirth of the superhero movie, too. Because suddenly it was Spider-Man, X-Men, Daredevil. All of them just sprung out of nowhere, too, starting in 2000. Sadly, it's also been... birth of torture porn.

Like, that's not something that existed beforehand. It's like the slasher film of the. Yeah. Are you sure that didn't exist before? Not like that.

Starting with Saw. The 70s was more like the era of... revenge films there was a lot. Of those i think 10 years from now we'll definitely see like this decade as the return to 3d movies i mean that's unmistakable. I guess but that seems like it's already so passe already. That's what makes it so i guess yeah probably like the judd apatow influenced films might be considered the equivalent of the john.

Hughes yeah that's at least a big enough thing. Yeah, because you can see people already trying to do those by the numbers. It's a trend. Has anybody seen Perks of Being a Wallflower? Yes.

That made me so angry. Did you like it? Because I felt like it was one of those movies that was so self-consciously striving to be iconic that it was so insincere, like every scene, oh God, we're about to get into it. Excellent. We need a film.

Have you read the book? I have read the book. I will tell you how I read the book. When I was in college. My laundromat was right next to a bookstore.

And so occasionally I would go into the bookstore and I would find a book that seemed slight and substantial, not really worthy of my time, that I would read while I was doing my laundry. And I saw this MTV Presents book, and I said, MTV has a publishing house? And that's unfortunate, but... I can read. This while I do my laundry.

And I did. And I was like, well, that was insubstantial and a waste of my two hours. It does only. Take two hours to read, though. That's a good thing.

And I've never liked it. It concerned and confounded me when all of a sudden it was a classic that people were embracing. And then I felt that the movie so needed to be that. Okay, go. How old were you when you read it?

I didn't read it as a 14-year-old boy. I read it when I was 17 for the first time. And I absolutely loved it. I was on the tail end of high school, and so it's kind of that kind of thing. And I was kind of an awkward teenager, not necessarily that bad.

I was a Mormon. I wasn't going around hanging out with people who were smoking pot and making out with dudes. Like Richard Belzer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the book really appealed to me. the book really appealed to me on an emotional level.

And so for a couple of years, um, like if I was having like a bad time in my life, I would read it. It took a day or two hours. Um, and, and so when the movie came out, I was really hesitant because the trailer frankly looked like shit, but I was pleased that Chbosky who wrote the book wrote and directed the movie. And so I went to see it and gave it a chance. And I really liked it because it's, it's a really good adaptation of the book.

Um, And so it evoked a lot of those same emotions. So I guess for me, a lot of it's kind of a nostalgia thing. My only fault with the movie was when I see movies based on books, I try not to compare it too much because that just drives you crazy. And it had been a long time since I read it, so I wasn't too distracted by that. But thinking about it after, I remember all this stuff that got left out.

That was good stuff and important stuff and things that had been kind of toned down. And I realized that's because they needed to keep it at a PG 13 level because they're trying to reach a specific audience. And so you can't have the abortion in there. You can't have the rape scene in there. Um, and that's unfortunate, but then that just got me pissed off at the rating system and that we have kind of this form of censorship through that.

And so it kind of, it all turned into this other weird thing for me, but I liked the movie a lot. And, um, that shot of, um, Emma Watson in the back of the truck. That's the scene that made me the angriest. She is so beautiful in that scene. But I felt like you were.

Like, kids are going to love this. This scene is going to live forever. We are infinite. Oh, God. It's going to.

Be like the say anything John Q said. Yes. I felt like it. Was so striving for that in such a shameless way that it broke my heart. It just wasn't anything.

I guess for me, that's just because the book to me was just so genuine and so important to me. and that the movie was obviously made with the same level of care and devotion, because the book wasn't written just as a, I'm going to be sensationalistic, putting all this stuff about drugs and sex and Rocky Horror Picture Show. He was reaching a certain audience and being successful, and I felt like the movie was just kind of an extension of that. I won't take that away from you. Well, you can't. No.

So like i understand though why you might why you have your opinion i don't know i don't know how i would feel about it if i hadn't read the book if i had no context other than going to see this movie but i thought it was a pretty solid movie regardless. In 2022 we'll think back and that's what we'll think That will represent all of. The plan, apparently. So I've gotten in fights with two of you now about movies that I liked and you didn't. The thing that did make me really scared about that film, though, and now I'm totally dating myself, is that in 1989, a film called 1969 came out.

I don't know if anybody saw that film. I've seen that one. Yes, with Winona Ryder. Because it would have Winona Ryder. Yeah, and I remember watching it as a 13-year-old and thinking, oh my God, 20 years ago was like so long.

Who are these people that can remember this totally alternate world that existed then? And there are people walking on this planet who were there. And remember that. And this film came out in 2012 and is about essentially 92, right? And I was like, oh my God, kids that are watching this.

Now are having the same relationship with this movie that's about me in high school that I, oh shit, right? Well, that did seem like such a lot, because I remember watching that at the time, and it seemed like such a long time ago. It was history. Yeah. But I don't feel like that.

And again, maybe it's just time's changing the way it does, or maybe it always feels like that. But I mean, it doesn't. I think that's what it feels. Like to get old. It just speeds up.

I think that's what it is. It becomes less of a. And one of the reasons they think that is, is actually because when you're in school, it The sheer boredom slows the years down. It has nothing to do with the ratio of your life passing. It really has nothing to do with that.

It's just you're in school all day. And it makes time seem longer. That's actually one of the theories I've read why that is. It's not anything else. But when you're 12, a year is the 12th of your life.

When you're 36, a year is the 36th of your life. So you're like, meh. That's nothing. That's a way to put it. Every year is short.

Yeah, while he was talking, I thought, yeah, the 2000s are going to be things like Harry Potter. It's such a huge part of it, especially the kids that are forming when they look back 20. Years from now. From the kids' perspective, I think it is so huge. Kids grow up.

Baby Harry Potter kids were amazing. And things like, I think, Napoleon Dynamite. I'm sure in 15 years, some kid's going to have a Vote for Pedro shirt. Totally. They're still going around now.

It's so retro. 15 years from now, it's going to blow up, and people are going to think it's... Because it's genuinely good. Oh, it is. No, it's a great movie.

You know, it's almost there if you think about it, because, I mean, it's been eight years since that came out. That's crazy. Time is speeding up. So somebody who might have been 10 about then is about 18 now. Yeah yeah this juncture so no a friend of mine yesterday yeah a.

Friend of mine posted um um at the beginning of the school year about college freshmen he said to college freshmen starting this year kurt cobain's always been dead yeah that's just great it blew my mind i was like oh my god it blew my mind i i. Uh Well, they were talking about the date of, again, the Internet. I mean, kids now, there has always been an Internet. I mean, it was like the 90s it came about. So all these kids going into college now have always had access to the Internet.

But people in my father's generation thought, oh, my God, these kids now, they've always had television. There was never a time before television. It's always kind of like that, I guess. But even kids like my kids' age... They grew up so that by the time they would be getting on a computer, it was there.

Yeah. It was just, you know. You just had one sitting around the house. Like a TV. You had your own phone.

There were phones. My daughter plays Photoshop. Not Photoshop. I'm sorry. A PowerPoint.

She makes PowerPoint presentations. Nice. She makes something and she'll draw it and she'll animate it and make a movie that you hit the space bar and it does a whole thing. scene and she has text and it's like a book that you read and um you know she has her side of the computer and my side of the computer mine's the only one that has powerpoint so i'll get on there and scroll through them and they're they're fantastic and she knows more stuff about you know she's nine more stuff about powerpoint than i do and. I've had a class on. It i've had this great moment just you know you say my daughter likes powerpoint so you get home So how was your day, honey?

And she just boots up this PowerPoint. It's just like being in a corporate meeting. You're looking at your watch. They've tested and found that PowerPoint makes experts laymen. They've done tests with like they present stats on college players like what their stats are to average people and to recruiters who are trained to look at the stats for players that they're recruiting.

And when you give them a PowerPoint presentation, it levels the groups out to where they're both about the same. There's something about dressing it up in PowerPoint that makes them seem like they're better players, no matter what the stats are. They've got a presentation. There's something about that. And the other thing that it did when it first came out was you suddenly had high-powered decision makers sitting around deciding what font to use.

Things that were all done by secretaries in the old days suddenly you've got like a CEO going, impact. Impact. it's alright it's not the way I would go but it's alright so much of. My life is powerpoint it's really sad really I just realized that and it's like everyone thinks that powerpoint is boring but I'm like yeah powerpoint day. This morning she was going can I play on powerpoint not again but and they're almost always funny too she made one with cause she made you know it was the news of the day yesterday it was the earthquake so she had all these pictures of earth and It had a face, and then it went to one that was cracked, and then it was. I don't know how she does it.

It's some kind of animation that it shakes the whole screen. It was kind of amusing. This episode of Movie Meltdown has been brought to you by Microsoft. And by an earthquake. And the number seven.

By the number earthquake. 4.3. 4.3? Yeah. Sorry about causing it.

Well, now that Alan has left, go ahead and tell us exactly what you think about Perks of Fear. How wrong is he? I saw you reach over there when he wasn't looking and take that away from him. You faked him out. You said, I won't take that away from you.

He's like, you can't. And you're like, right. I saw you grab the fork on the table. It's always going to be like, fuck you. he can't he can't rob. Me it's gonna be like when you all did the commentary for my movie and I came back and I listened to it and I was like oh god damn it I can't wait hey.

Hey I went to the bathroom you guys we didn't even notice or say anything What happened? I'm going to go back and listen to it. We just clarified on how good a movie is, and we left it at that. Which one? And by good, we mean bad.

Biodome. It's really good. You know, I really enjoyed Biodome. Curly Sue, actually. We were talking about John Hughes, and we were going on about how that's John Hughes' best.

Well, it's a swan song, really. Yeah. You know, he hasn't made anything for a while, huh? He should work with John Kennedy. This is really awkward, but.

They used to work together all the time. This is really awkward, but. It's not really that awkward. But when I was little, I used to get into arguments with people. Like, it would be Bill Murray and, like, Jim Belushi, whichever one's still alive.

Unfortunately, Jim. I used to get into arguments with people, like... I couldn't tell them apart. That's unfortunate. I know, which is so sad to me now because I love Bill Murray.

Bill Murray is serious. Jim Belushi, he does a shitty sitcom where. He's an asshole. But I mean, when I was little, in the movie Curly Sue, I couldn't tell you who's in it because I was so hung up on thinking that those two people were the same. And I was a child, but I would fight people over this.

It's like the Bill Pullman, Bill Paxton argument. I don't get that other than the name, because they're so different as authors. Marlena, she's also got this ability, too, to where she thinks that all middle-aged black women are Timothy Dalton. No, but there is a guy that I work with named Nick. Every time I'm at Target and I hear.

She just keeps walking up to him and says, hello. There's this guy I work with, Nick, and every time I'm at Target and there's like an old black lady talking like two aisles over. I'm like, Nick! And then I'm like, oh, you're an old black lady, not Nick at all. That's so sad for Nick.

It is. I think you're the best bond. I don't really do that, but I do, like I get obsessed with, who does that person slightly resemble when they do that one thing? And I was watching The Beginners the other night because my daughter wanted to watch it, and then she put it in, and she said, oh, we tried to watch this one night. I'm like, I don't remember it.

But then they get to a scene where they're at a party, and he's dressed like Freud. Oh, wait, Beginners? Yeah. Oh, you said The Beginners. Did I say, oh.

It's kind of like the rope. Beginners. The Mike Mills one with the immigration. Absolutely. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, so it's Shoshana, and... and Sigmund Freud are at this party, and I'm watching Shoshana, and I'm like, what is going on with her? And I figured it out. It's, what's her name? Bob Newhart's wife. What's her name?

Somebody help me out. Suzanne Plachette. Suzanne Plachette. You watch her face, like about every 15 seconds, Suzanne Plachette. Yeah.

It's like magic. Yep. It's just like, you know, if you remember that Thanksgiving episode we did about... Not at this point. It's been so long ago.

There's a guy, the guy in that movie, he does an Arnold thing every now and then. Why are the windows shaking? Is it the wind? Because there's like a weird earthquake. It's an earthquake.

I really have been paranoid that there's going to be another earthquake. I've seen one from in here and that's what it does. I remember the last one, my boy woke up and he thought, everything's shaking and then he thought it's probably just an earthquake and he went back to bed actually. I always lie to my students in case you haven't figured this out but after the earthquake back in what was it like 2007 or something where we had that students asked me they were like Mr. Callens do you feel the earthquake today there wasn't an earthquake today yeah there was no you didn't read the news Or you didn't see the news?

No. Apparently there was some nuclear power plant up in Illinois that just had a meltdown. Like, the entire town is just decimated. And, no, there was no earthquake. That was just us feeling the shock waves.

You didn't hear about this? No. Oh, yeah. You should go check it out when you get home. Your students are not going to trust anything they've learned in your class.

No, actually, that's one thing I tell them. It's like, you know, when you go to a job, you aren't going to use chemical names or anything like that, but you are going to have to be less gullible. Than you are right now. So my goal is for you to be less gullible when you leave my class. Than when you came in.

Do you do the classics, like, you know, taking the word gullible out of the dictionary? And my wife goes, why? You sometimes say it. Somebody wrote gullible on the ceiling. Have you ever actually wrote gullible on the ceiling and then told somebody?

No, they refuse to look. That's really annoying, actually. It's like it's there. Once I told someone, if you say gullible really slowly, it sounds like oranges. And she was like, gullible.

Gullible. Oh, I get it. The sad part is she didn't get it. Yeah. It's probably not.

You just pretend at that point. But she got thirsty. For some orange juice. Kind of like the guy that I used to work with who used to tell the brown chicken brown cow joke, but he didn't get it at all. He just like, he knew it made people laugh, but he didn't understand the punchline.

Like Rain Man. He's just, he was hung first. It's, You don't even know it's a joke. Or like when a blind person smiles at a comic strip, they know there's something funny there and everyone else is laughing, but they don't want to seem like they don't get it. That sort of thing.

Huh? Somebody told them. Yeah. How do they know? I used to pretend when I couldn't read.

I used to pretend I'd open up the comics. My dad would be reading the paper. I'd pretend to read it and then laugh at the end. And then he'd go, oh, what was that one? And I'd say, oh, read it, you know, so that you can get the joke too.

And I was like, no, no, no, read it out loud. It's funnier. So that he'd then read it, because he was busy reading his paper. It was my way of getting him to read it, because I couldn't read it. And that's the story as to how Greg fell in love with Apartment 3G.

He laughed at it every single day. I don't know, that Mary Worth is giving him a run for their money. Rex Morgan's better than Garfield. Rex Morgan is so funny. When I was a baby, my parents lived in a little burger place. an apartment up over a little burger place.

I thought you said a burglar place. No, they lived in a little apartment over a burger place at the foot of the hill at Western. And they'd have their friends come over, and they'd talk about politics and literature, and they'd sit around. And I'd be in my playpen, and they'd laugh, and I'd laugh too. I'd clap my hands without missing.

I'd be in there laughing. This was last week too, actually. And then one day I realized... After a moment, I realized that they were laughing harder and they were laughing at me and pointing at me. It's the most embarrassing thing in my life.

Still last week. So your first memory is from five months old and it's being mocked. Yes. Yeah, I'm just trying to be sociable and pleasant. But really, I was hungry and my diaper's soaking, but I'm just like, ha, ha, ha.

They're mocking me. That's terrible. You guys are horrible parents. Actually, that place at the foot of the hill is like directly across from the house where John Carpenter's parents lived. At that time, this is weird, but the Kentucky Museum has that building now.

But it's like a log cabin. But at that time, it was faculty housing. And his parents lived in that house, which is like a little slightly refurnished log house at the foot of the hill, western. And there was a big ginkgo tree in front of the burger place, but it was like the wrong kind. It was the kind that smells horrible.

But that's gone now. Is the burger place still there? No. No. I don't know what it is now.

It's something, but it's not a burger parlor. You can say that about anything, is that it's something. Yeah, it's something. The building is still there. I know they've got a Panda Express, so it might be that.

I don't know. It sucks. Yeah. The mystique of your childhood is now ruined by some woman standing on a corner going sample, sample, sample, sample, sample. Oh yeah.

That whole town is just so different from what it was because like the mall is gone. They had the old mall there and it's not even a mall anymore. It's like, part of the college or research facility. That was the mall. And then later they built like dueling malls out off on either side of Scottsville road.

And they're just staring at each other. Um, it's like a green tree and river falls. Yeah, that didn't work out. The old mall in Bowling Green, there was a cave back behind it. And that's where we as young potheads would go down into that cave.

And we would try to come out at lost river cave. And last time, they reopened Lost River Cave, and I took my kids there. And I told a guy there, yeah, when I was a kid and this stuff was closed down, we used to always go back here, and we'd try to go from one cave to the other. And we'd be back there, and we'd think we were someplace nobody had ever been. And we'd turn a corner, and there'd be like an archaeology table sitting up on a rock.

Well, there might as well have been a fucking Volkswagen parked there. It just ruined it for us. And we'd get so far back. that the water would rise up and the ceiling would come down, and we'd just smoke pot and dare each other to go see if that opened up in a few feet. Like, you ought to go in there. But the guy at Lost River said it can be done.

The two caves do connect. So you said that, and at first you said, you know, there was this mall and there used to be a cave. And I thought you would just leave off there, and I just had this great mental image. Oh, they opened up a new cave over at Oxmoor Mall. Have you been in it?

No, it's great. It goes down deep, real deep. Well, not everybody knew about the cave. And Lost River Cave had been like a venue for traveling bands in the 20s, like swing bands. And they had a dance floor there, like my wife's mother remembers going to dances there.

But in the 70s... So that's awesome. It's like the... Yeah. When I was a kid, though, it was closed down and there was no trespassing.

And later I read a book and found out the reason was there were pollutants in the water at about the time we were waiting in it. up to our necks, and using it for bong water. This all starts to make sense now. It's a good thing you weren't eating turkey while you were doing that, because remember when we had that Thanksgiving episode a while back, that was like the plot of Blood Freak. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, that's...

One of you had been to Vietnam. That was even, like, that's so irrelevant, because that was already dead before that even happened. Because when I was a kid, I had a In third grade, a reading project where we were supposed to do a diorama, and I didn't know what I was doing, but some teacher said, oh, you could take a box and you could find little things that looked like things. And she took like a spool and made a table and then got a hairnet and put a spider web over it, and it became this creepy, haunted thing. I'm like, okay.

And I kept finding things, and I did it, and I won. And I didn't even have a book. They asked me, what book is this? And I'm like, ghost stories of somewhere. And I made something up, and I won.

And then the next year, like fourth grade, I thought, oh, they're doing... I didn't even know it was a contest. I didn't know people won these things. So the next year, I looked up how they make dioramas at, like, the Smithsonian. And what they do is they take.

And then they take some, oh, like that Brillo pad stuff, steel wool, and they wrap it, and they make these figures, and then they take plaster, and they take asbestos. Powdered asbestos. Powdered asbestos. You could not get powdered asbestos at the local hardware store back in the 70s. You could get sheet asbestos in a grinder.

Yeah. And I did it. And I made this little, I think it was like the day Blackbeard got killed. And I read the book. I read all about it.

And I made the figures. And I took wood and I made the strips of the boat. And I tried to get like the soldier's uniforms accurate. But it was like the Addams Family because it was just bloody as hell. And I did not win.

A girl I knew, Brookie, had a box full of Barbies. to represent little women. And one of them, I clearly remember, was wearing a white dress with boop-boop beads. So but the little. Uh flower sifter that i used like after i. Ground up the asbestos i think it sat in my room until i started using it to take twigs and seeds oh this so makes.

Sense Yeah, I don't think I ever. Took it out and rinsed it off. I think I put it in a drawer. And then later I thought, hey, there's that thing in that drawer over there. Get these damn seeds and stems.

Let's go back to the cave, man. Want to go back to the cave? I just got. These seeds and twigs out. Let's climb back in there.

No, we don't need to take bong water. There's... Yeah. It's all true. Oh, God.

It's all completely true. It explains so much. Yeah. Oh, God. How did this story come about again?

I completely lost the thread. There are so many threads. I don't remember what movie that is. So many threads. Blood Freak.

Blood Freak is spiraling off the road, hitting a tree, careening down into a cave. Anyway, I don't know. God. Can we just do a Fred therapy podcast? That's called Boogie Meltdown.

I think we just did. I think I retire now. The meltdown part. It happens every time. I just now realize how appropriately.

Named this show is. Oh, yeah. Every year is a meltdown of the focus. The basics. Structure of the show completely melts down somewhere in the middle of it.

It occurred to me quite a while ago. The very title legitimizes it, though. Yeah. Smart thinking. Smart.

Planning ahead on that. See, you had your petroleum working good. We set up to start talking about movies and then it just devolves into this... I don't even know what you would call it. Entertainment.

Yep. Oh, God. So do you think you could sue the The Smithsonian Institute for Giving a Child the Idea. That's a book in the public library. Probably not nowadays.

Yeah, just go out and get you some asbestos and mix that shit in with some plaster and you're in business. Make sure you breathe it in when you write it down. Inhale deeply. Oh, God. I don't know what else to do.

That's a capper. No. I think we need to wrap this one up. I think the quote for this one is, but I was already dead before that. Before that ever happened, I was already dead.

I was already dead. Oh, God. I'll listen to the whole thing. In over several weeks. I'm going to listen to find out what happened while I was in the back.

Just because we know we're working it up towards. Yeah. Yeah. We're working it up towards Fred dying. Just name the episode you must listen all the way to the end.

And people won't even download it. No, name it Fred Dies at the End. Fred had already died at the end. Why Fred's already dead. It is funny.

It is funny. And the fact that it didn't dawn on you until years later. It dawned on me in degrees. One day, there's like a little book about Lost River Cave by the phone at my mom's. Oh, look at that.

Chemicals in the water. Well, I don't know where, but, yeah, no, I was already dead. I see you're getting it mixed up. Time sequence. Otherwise, that about does it.

We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for hanging in there, Jesus Christ. It was a perfect place It had a perfect. Face I seemed to have so much time Now the place was mine With the backyard too And the sky started blue I seemed to.

Have so much time. Now the walls are just blue. Memories spring into mind Maybe I could have been blind But my love was so true For the place I once knew I seemed to have so much time You know the. Place could have been mine With asbestos all around With asbestos all around In the air and on the ground. Loverful, I'd never fought Now I'm scared to go out.

It was the perfect place Oh Didn't have so much fun Didn't have no place for us to run. I defended myself against two people. You didn't defend yourself very well when you weren't in the room. If you just didn't like things that they don't like, do you just have to like everything that everybody else likes? There's no thinking for yourself.

It's not my fault that I feel things and y'all don't. Stop revealing things! It's not my fault I'm a fucking human. This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown. Produced and edited by The Oddity Studios.

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