221: Silver Surfer Linings Playbook

Hi, my name is Jennifer Lawrence. And you're listening to Movie Meltdown. The following feature has been rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised. It's showtime, folks.

Enjoy the show. Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power. Why were you two fighting? Well, I said that the Kirby Silver Surfer was the only real Silver Surfer, and. That the Mobius Silver Surfer was shit.

And Benefield's a big Mobius fan. Things got out of hand. I pushed him, he pushed me. I lost my head, sir. I'm sorry.

Rivetti, you're a supervisor. You can get a commission like that. I know it, sir. You're 100% right. It's never happened again, all right?

It better not happen again. I see this kind of nonsense, I'm going to write you up. You understand? Do you understand? Yes, sir.

You have to set an example, even in the face of stupidity. Now, everybody that reads. Comic books knows that Kirby Silver Surfer is the only true Silver Surfer. Now, am I right or wrong? You're right, sir.

All right. Get out of here. What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Lucy.

I'm Lucy. And we are sitting in a parking lot. Do you want to? I think that's the most thorough way that you could explain the situation. I kind of like this.

I mean, we've done many a parking lot review and, you know, we've done entire episodes in parking lots before. I actually think the sound's really good in the vehicle. So I sort of support that because it's loud and noisy out in the world. And at least in the car, you can kind of close it, you know, so. Yeah.

And it's reminding me of Lebowski Fest. See, there you go. That's another one of those. Days gone by. So there's, yeah, there's many, many fun episodes in a car.

But this one, I just thought we'd, you know, kind of get rolling into this episode. Eventually, we're going to venture out into a hotel room. But, you know, we'll get to that later. Before that, I believe I was going to throw out some sort of geek activity. You've got a better one.

No, I want to hear your geek activity. I just was trying to think of something I've watched. And there's those movies that, like, especially in the geek circles, that you'll hear people talk about. And they will go on and on about it. And you'll finally see it.

And half the time you're like, what the hell are they all talking about? I've just last week saw Holy Motors. Oh, well, you can't talk about this. Have you not seen it? I haven't.

I'm seeing it on Monday. Okay. I'm seeing it on Monday on the big screen. I'm going to spoil it right now. No, no, no, no.

Should I leave the car? There's a car involved. That's the motors part. It was in the title. I didn't really spoil it.

But, yeah, do you want me to just not even tell you my feelings upon it? No, you can tell me your feelings. are you are you gonna say something that's gonna crush me because i'm literally living for this. But i guess i could totally set up your expectations because i'm gonna do what everybody else did uh they were right oh okay awesome i was just like the i was like holy shit like this is really good like i was i was i didn't really know what i was expecting i knew it was kind of a weird structure and it you know was was impressive to most you know hardcore like film geeks so Again, sometimes things get talked up a little too much and I go in with, you know, these expectations and it doesn't live up to this one totally.

I mean, it's weird. It definitely has its arty, arty moments. But you're reading a French movie. So if you're not, you know, you should know that going in you're going to get arty. But it's also got like, I mean, there are times when I'm just like, this is possibly the best.

There's no way they could do this scene better. Like this is amazing right now. So you have good things awaiting you. I almost drove to Pittsburgh to see it. I know.

I mean, I've been dying to see this film. Yeah, I don't know what all, because they were going to play it at home too, and it got canceled the last minute. So I don't know what was going on with the distribution kind of thing, but yeah, it's been really weird. So yeah, I will be interested to hear your thoughts on it more elaborately. We probably could do a.

Whole episode on it now. Know probably about it we could definitely do a whole episode on it but i guess we will come back to that later so what's your geek activity. Well see i didn't even know this qualified as a geek activity until you told me it was a geek activity i thought it was a really cool thing i did with my day. And again that's a fine line because i don't think geeky is a bad thing and that's why i keep referring to us that way it's it's a specific thing But. This isn't like movie geekery.

I think geek applies to many, many forms of dorkisms. This one probably spills a little more into the dorky side. I'm pretty sure that's where you're leading with this, frankly. All right. Well, I did this really awesome thing that wasn't even remotely dorky.

I, this is the fourth year in Lexington, Kentucky. I know that this is like actually a worldwide phenomenon. They do these all over the place, but in Lexington, it's the fourth year of the tweed ride. So, and is that a snicker that you just, yes, that was, you just swallowed a snicker. Yeah.

You get dressed up in your finest tweed. I'm trying not to say get your tweed on, but go ahead. And you go out and you do very civilized things. Actually, no, you just drink a lot. But the idea initially was that we would get on our bikes and drive around town in our tweed.

Old-timey bikes. Old-timey, well, I mean, some, yes. There is a competition for best bike, and that typically goes to something vintage. Somebody who spent $ 10, 000 on a bike. Right, who's, yeah.

Restored a turn-of-the-century Schwinn. Right. And I guess maybe that first year there was talk about doing like a croquet and that sort of thing. I don't think any of that ever happens. You just kind of stop places, you take some pictures, and then.

You drink some. This sounds like an event for fancy lads. And lasses. Man, oh man, I hate fancy lads. Wait, I don't know that reference.

I believe it's, I think it's actually from Cabin Boy, if I'm not mistaken. I think I'm quoting. Devastated that I didn't... I think I'm quoting. The one and only movie appearance of David Letterman when he also says, want to buy a monkey?

Oh. So, you know, I could be wrong on that, but I do remember... Quite often him going, man, oh, man, I hate fancy lads. See, I didn't even know. He always says that one about a monkey line on his show, and I didn't realize that that's.

I think maybe he's stealing from the movie. He's quoting himself. Because everybody liked it so much. I don't know. Okay, wait, they didn't like the movie, but they liked his two minutes in there.

Honey. Okay, back to your story. I mean, that's really all there is to it. Unfortunately, I didn't plan this. Usually I go with, you know, okay, so we all meet at a bar.

But you have to ride your bicycle from your home to the bar. And once you get to the bar, then there's safety in numbers. You're a bunch of weirdos dressed up riding around town. At least you're almost like a biker gang. Yeah.

You're a tweed-covered biker gang. The most sissified biker gang. But, I mean, you can do your old-timey boxing and your hands off that lassie. And then you fix your handlebar mustache and you go to the fightin's. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I had to ride my bike by myself from my house to the bar. And I was literally... There was a point where I was literally chased down the street by children throwing things at me. Like...

I like these kids. No, there was one kid, all I heard, and I couldn't catch on to what they were saying at first. And then I finally realized they were saying, knock her off her bike. Knock her off her bike. And I wasn't ever, fortunately, I was never bullied in school.

But all of a sudden, I know what this whole bully phenomenon was about. And I felt like a 10-year-old girl that was going to burst out crying. People kept calling me Mary Poppins. Yeah. I mean, I've never experienced anything like it.

So, yeah, everybody that I passed. This is a rough neighborhood you live in. It actually is. I've seen it. You've been there.

It's a scary neighborhood. I wouldn't go scary. But I live in the ghetto, so. But, yeah, apparently it's a little rougher than I knew. Apparently you don't know how rough your neighborhood is until you drive down the street on a bicycle looking like Mary Poppins.

Literally a Mary. So, there you go. I was humble today. That is so dorky. I'm sorry.

But then I joined the other dorks, and then we all drank. Well, that makes you even. Less cool in my book. But many people like the drunken debauchery. I'm square in a different way.

Particularly debaucherous. I had a beverage at Beau's house last week. It was scandalous. Which one did you choose? There were many.

I actually had two. I spelled it out on the show. I went with one, the Candyland, in honor of the dude that got ripped off and didn't get nominated. And when, when Jennifer won, I had one of her special six shades of crazy or whatever he called her crazy drink. So, which she had a hell of a lot of booze in it actually.

So for as little as I drank, I held up pretty well, I guess. I made it through the night and I was all right. So. For never drinking, having as much booze as Beau is putting in that stuff. It says a lot.

A lot done. So, any other geek activities? Have you watched anything? Yes. What did I just watch?

I just watched something so horrible that I decided that I was going to block it from my consciousness forever. And I think I've done it so effectively that I can't actually remember. What has come out recently? Oh! It was that terrible, I've already forgotten the name of it, Dead Man Down, the Colin Farrell film.

Oh, yeah. Good responses. The trailer made me think it was going to be great. It's got a lot of really good actors in it. Exactly.

Okay, occasionally he can be a good actor. Usually I just associate him with his real world persona, which. Is a dick. I don't know. But he's turned in some very good performances on occasion.

This wasn't one of them, you're saying? No, he actually was good in it. I mean, he was better than the movie deserved. All the performances were better than the movie deserved. It was just a really bad movie that I've already forgotten that I saw last week.

I'm just going to see if I can get it to put our comments on the posters and video boxes from here on out. Really bad movie that I've already forgotten that I saw last week. Lucy, movie meltdown. Yeah, but that's kind of it. We've been having a really great...

Here's something good. I'm going to be positive. I'm going to stick with the silver linings. I'm going to stick with the theme of the show. I got it.

Okay. We've been having a Hal Ashby series at the Lexington Public Library. That's weird. And it's been great. I...

Okay. Full disclosure, basically the whole reason we're having this series is because I really want to see the last detail on the big screen. You want it your way. Yeah, basically I want it my way. I've been wanting to see it on the big screen, and there just wasn't an opportunity.

And it's a film that I was like, okay, I need to finally see it, but I need to see it big. Let's make a series around it. And I'm so happy that we did, because Hal Ashby, I mean, those first... Like seven films, seven films he made in the 70s within, you know, a 10 year span, actually a nine year span. It's a pretty good run.

That are phenomenal. And, you know, things things got a little messy after that. But but those seven films are so. As things do in Hollywood. Anyway, I just I recommend everybody go back and watch his entire 1970s body of work, starting with The Landlord. which is a great film and I think very much overlooked.

And Harold and Maude held up, thank God, because I was so frightened. I mean, it was like my best, like my favorite film when I was in high school and I hadn't seen it since then. But I always footnote it as like, it's one of my top five favorite films, even though I haven't seen it in 20 years. I haven't seen it in years. Again, I guess it says a lot about me.

I really liked it when I was a kid. Like I watched it when I was probably... Shouldn't have been. Most of my stories involve me watching stuff on cable that I shouldn't have been watching. But I remember I really thought his car was awesome.

Oh, God, it's amazing. It was fun. The little montage of him killing himself. I don't know why I thought that was an entertaining part of the movie, but that part stuck with me as well. But the car was bitching.

I remember that. Yeah. The good news is it holds up. And, you know, we had probably 60 people there and. There was a solid 20 people who had never seen it before.

So watching it with an audience who were reacting to it for the first time was an amazing experience. Anyway, just grab up 60 people, go to your house, watch the movie right now. That's all I'm saying. I don't want those people in my house. That's why I'm just going to get a theater and start showing stuff there.

Fair enough. That's what we did. Well, you know what else we're going to do? What's that? What's up, Brian?

I think we're going to go inside right here, and we're going to go pester Mr. Doug Jones. He's my favorite. He kind of is. He's kind of becoming, well, you'll see.

We're adopting him like all of our favorite celebrities. We just adopt them on this show. Whether they like it or not. They join the Meltdown crew whether they like it or not. So, you know, I think we have that in our future.

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Sounds better. That movie was pretty good. What? That movie gets an M.G. Straight up.

Straight up M.G. Material. Honey, is that Robert De Niro across the street? Hey, yo. Sure looks like him.

Can't be, though. Yeah, you. He's calling to us. Let's just go. But it's Bobby fucking D, honey.

Hey, yo. That's right. It's Bobby fucking De Niro over here. Hey, a lot of people don't know this about me. Yeah, I'm mingling down here with the drug dealers, the pimps, the Bushes.

The low-level gangsters, you know. Honestly, I'm slinging some shit myself. You may not know this about me, but I'm a fan of podcasts. Yeah, I've been listening to these guys, Bloodbaths and Boomsticks. Couple of knuckleheads from around the way.

You got John Smallberries. What a fucking name on this guy. You got Corey G. Guy's fucking half-retarded over here. Likes John Woo, for fuck's sake.

Then you got Tim Gross. He's got the movie-watching Constitution of a Billy Goat. Hey. Find these guys at bloodbathsandboomsticks.blogspot.com. Long fucking name, but just go find it.

It's worth it. You knuckleheads got that? Yeah. Bloodbaths and Boomsticks. It's on the house.

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So, yeah, go to doo-wop.com and check it out. Hi, this is Lily Tomlin, and I'm moving outtown with Brian. Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen. Pour myself a cup of ambition and yawn and stretch and try to come to life. Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumping.

Out on the streets the traffic starts jumping. With folks like me on the job from nine to five. What's part of your problem? You know, you haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.

And now, on with the show. . . . All right, so we are here with Doug Jones. We are back with Doug. It's been a while. It's been, you know, it's a reunion for us.

Right. Well, last time I was in the Midwest, Cincinnati Horror Hound of November 11, I think it was. Yeah, I checked today. It's been, yeah, it's been that long. It's been a little over, it's been a year and some change.

Almost a year and a half. I'm no mathematician, but that feels like. I round. I like rounding. Rounding.

But yeah, I was going to say, I guess that's a good excuse to say, what have you been up to the last year and a half? Well, since last we spoke, The Watch came out in theaters and on DVD with Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, Jonah Hill, and me as the lead alien bad guy invading their neighborhood. I guess it was successful as comedies go. Sure. Sure.

Meanwhile, I also was a recurring guest on The Neighbors this season, the new sitcom on Wednesday nights right before Modern Family on ABC, and I play Dominique Wilkins on the show. I'm in six episodes, and we just had our musical episode air last week, and it is delicious. No, I got to sing and dance for the first time in my life on film, and it was good. Okay, okay. It's a very fun show.

I was raised on musicals, and so my dad was a big, showman lover. I loved Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, all those Bing Crosby, White Christmas, all that. So to be able to sing and dance on a big production with money was great. You know what I mean? You've been practicing mentally your whole life.

I have been. So I got the chance to be, and the musical composer for this episode was Alan Menken, who did Little Mermaid, Hercules, Pocahontas, the list goes on and on. He's decorated in all arenas. So I'm just saying. Head of all.

And then I also filmed the entire season three of Falling Skies on TNT. That season starts airing in June. And I play the new alien on the show. I'm a friendly alien. If you know the storyline at all, aliens have invaded Earth and Noah Wiley, he heads up the human resistance.

So aliens have been nothing but bad guys on the show for the first two seasons. Then I land at the end of season two as a cliffhanger. What's he here for? Oh, no. All my minions come behind me.

And then season three, we'll expose what we're here for. Are we friend or foe? You don't know, but I think we're good. Can I give you a teaser? We're good.

Secret. Exclusive spoiler. You'll think we're good for a minute. The question is always there. What's their motive really for being here?

To help. And I use air quotes. You know what I'm saying? That's what they always say. We're here for good, and we have wonderful things to share with.

You. So that's coming. And then I also have John Dies at the End, a feature film. He did a theatrical run across the country. I just saw that last week, actually.

Did you? Did you? A lot of one. Yeah, he's... He's always been one of my favorite directors, so it's kind of good.

Yeah, I have a weird Beastmaster thing. I don't understand it. Beastmaster and Bubba Hotep and the Phantasm. Yeah, and after working with him on John Dies at the End, he is now in my top handful of very few favorite directors I've ever worked with. He gets the joke.

He gets it, whatever it is that he's going on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. He's definitely got a good sense of humor that he works into his stuff. I like that writer-director combination.

I love Guillermo del Toro, Joss Whedon. They're all really good writers, and they know how to direct their own material. Like when I read the script for Pan's Labyrinth, when I knew that Guillermo was directing it as well as wrote it, it's like, oh, we're in the best of hands here. And six Oscar nominations later, I was right, wasn't I? Yeah, you can't argue that.

No, you can't. You can't. Don't even argue with me. Don't try it. I have a microphone in my hand and I know how to use it.

On that one, I'll let it slide. Okay. But I will say it seems like you're being typecast otherwise. They're not branching out too much these last year and a half. Gluing me into rubber alien bits?

You're always an alien now. Except on The Neighbors, I was an alien that looked like a human. That's true. Now, come on. That was a stretch.

Come on. Yeah, you don't get to do that much. Well, I've been doing it more. A lot of indie projects that you maybe never see. I don't know.

And in John Dice, then I play a human-ish character, Roger North, coming from this other dimension. So, yeah, you saw it. So you saw me. I looked weird. You know, that's a given most of the time.

Sitting here right now, I look weird. But they darkened my circles under my eyes and made me look a little more pale. And that's my phone going. My phone that wasn't working. I can't get a reception.

I've been getting calls all day. It's magic. I just rejected the call. That means they'll know. They'll know that I don't want to talk to them.

We're talking about John Dyes at the end. Leave me alone. Right, I know, I know. Okay, so back to me. What would you like to know about me?

Well, what have I been up to? We're closing that up. A ton of other projects that I just don't have the titles for. If you're a Webernette follower of web series, Fallout Nuka Break, I'm about to do a little cameo in season two of that. It doesn't mean anything to everybody, but those who know it love it.

Oh, yeah. And the web series, The Danger Elements. I play Dr. Elemis in that, and that's one episode comes out like every four months. So it's a tough one to follow because it just takes so long, but it's deliciously fun and big production value.

Another web series I did with– that's a message from my unicorn friend– Anyway. You are magical. You're magical. And I'm delicious. It's going to be an angry unicorn, though, because you're rejected.

Yeah, I reject them. So it's going to be a message full of, I hate you for rejecting me. How dare you? No one rejects me. Where was I?

I lose my train of thought so easily. We were. One episode. One episode. Thank you.

Okay, actor from Rocky Horror Picture Show, the guy, Brad. Barry Bostwick. Barry Bostwick and I did a web series together called Research that takes place in a research facility where they're testing products on humans. And I'm the main test subject who makes a career out of this. So I'm a little bit crazy.

Guinea pig. You're right. And Barry Bostwick is one of the lead doctors of this. And he's so nuts. The man is nuts.

I love him madly. So it's a very funny, wacky, airplane-esque web series called Research. Not out yet, but once it starts, do a little Google search for Research and you'll get to their website and find out what dates are coming and all that. So is that enough about me for now? That's up to you.

I can go on about everything else. I've filmed what hasn't come out yet or may never come out. If you look at my IMDb page, it's full of red marks. Pre-production, announced, assumed. It's coming sometime.

Yeah, who knows? I don't know. They might not have money. I don't know. I don't know.

Well, it's up to you. I can come up with more general questions or if you're ready to get into this movie. Well, let's see. I promoted the heck out of everything. The mime book is doing well.

Did we talk about that mime book? Yeah, I think it had just come out at that point. Yeah, it had. It was just about to. It's been selling very well.

You can still find Mime, a very own book, on Amazon.com. Or at Barnes & Noble. If they don't have it in the store, they can order it for you if you're not a Webernet user. I love that word, Webernet. I know it's not real, but I just love using it.

I make up words. It's fun to say. It makes me sound like I'm out of touch. I like that. I like that image.

Where were we? I know, I keep doing that. The interwebs. The interwebs. I prefer that one myself.

Right. Well, if you saw, for your consideration. Yes. The Webernet, or the Interweb was introduced there, wasn't it? That guy, the publicist guy didn't know what the Internet was.

Oh, yeah. And he's like, I hear about the Interweb, and there's people talking about this movie. Yeah, it's good. It's a very, very funny movie. I love that movie.

Yeah, for your consideration. Good? I'm ready if you are. Okay. If you want to roll into it.

Okay, let's talk about it. I saw it once and I loved it. I didn't have time to research a movie properly because I was on a road trip here to Lexington when Publicist Jess was like, oh, they want to review a movie with you again. I'm like, oh, I haven't. Got a chance to see nothing, but okay, I saw this and that.

I think I remember that one. So I'm going to be free of details, but you have to fill in details and names for me, okay? I will at least throw it out there to the listeners that may think I was being biased and chose this myself. This was at least one that Doug narrowed down. I did.

Because I did just talk to Jennifer Lawrence, so everybody now. I won't shut up about it. You did? Yeah, everybody's probably going to assume it's my pick, but you know. Ah.

I wasn't arguing. It was a good excuse. To watch it. I want to talk about Silver Linings Playbook because I loved it so. Let me just break it down for you.

The whole time you're rooting for this Hemingway guy to survive the war. And to be with the woman that he loves. It's four o'clock in the morning. Can't somebody say, hey, let's have a good ending to the story? I can't apologize.

You know what I will do? I will apologize on behalf of Ernest Hemingway, because that's who's to blame here. Yeah, have Ernest Hemingway call us and apologize to us, too. What are you going to do with yourself? I'm getting trimmed.

I'm getting really fit for Nikki. Patrick, she left. She's gone. Doc, I have one incident. I come home from work.

I see my wife's in the shower. I pull the curtain back. So, yeah, I snapped. Hey, Tiffany. Is this Pat?

You look nice. Thank you. I'm not flirting with you. I didn't think you were. Look, I think you're really pretty, but I'm married, okay?

So am I. No, that's confusing. He's dead. Wait, what's happening? There's no panel.

What's this? I hear about you just getting out from the loony bin. I thought you said you had it together. You were solid. I am solid.

I was solid at. The game I don't know where I belong Hey, oh, what the hell? I just want us to be friends. So how did you lose your job? I having sex with everybody in the office everybody.

I was very depressed after tommy died. We don't have to talk about Don't let Tiffany get you in trouble. She's my friend. Why would you say that? There's this dance thing.

I can only do it if. I have a partner. I'm not going to dance with you. So is this the girl you wrote about? You wrote about me?

She's fine. She is my friend with an F. A capital F. Poor friend. Let me tell you, you've got to pay attention to the signs.

When life reaches out at a moment like this, it's a sin if you don't reach back. I'm telling you, it's a sin if you don't reach back. Yay! This is what I believe to be true. You have to do everything you can.

You have to work your hardest. If you stay positive, you have a shot at a silver lining. Wait, what's this? What? I thought you were doing it.

Oh, I thought you were doing it. I can throw out the basics here for our big out-on-the-town movie. Okay, good. So, the title, Silver Linings Playbook, the year is 2012, director David O. Russell, and they plot according to IMDb, and it's already got an error in it.

After a stint in a mental institution, Pat moves back in with his parents and tries to, it says, reconcile with his ex-wife, which he points out many times within the movie, they're still married. They are, yeah. It says, things get more challenging when Pat meets Tiffany, a mysterious girl with problems of her own. Does she ever. Mysterious.

I like that. She's like mystical. So, spoiler alert. I'm sure we're going to tear into this and go all into the details. You've been warned.

Where would you like to begin? I don't know. At the beginning, I think. We can. Meeting his mom to come get him.

Wasn't she driving him home from his rehab stint or whatever? Checking him out a little bit before he should have gone, maybe? Well, and then we get the other... The person I'd forgotten was even in it. The guy that was in the car with him?

Chris Tucker. The friend? Yeah. That was Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker.

I knew he looked familiar when I said, here we are learning stuff. This is one of the few performances I'm like, hey, I kind of like Chris Tucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's very subdued for Chris Tucker. He wasn't doing a shtick.

He wasn't doing a shtick. He wasn't climbing on things and doing crazy voices. Oh, awesome, awesome, awesome. I don't know. Were you okay with Chris Tucker?

I was more than okay with Chris Tucker. I think he's great in it. I was surprised, yeah. He usually is so out in left field with every performance that, yeah, it's amazing seeing him play like a normal person. I'm not sure I really know his oeuvre, to be honest.

Have you seen Rush Hour? No, I haven't. Or two or three. Well, that's the other thing. Like, they said...

He hasn't done a movie that didn't involve Rush Hour since like 1997. Wow. Yeah. It was like a huge span of time that he just took off, and I'm still not really sure why. Like 15 years ago?

To count the Rush Hour money. It was like the last regular movie that he did that wasn't Jackie Chan related. What? Yeah. So it's a welcome return, I suppose.

It's better than I've seen him in the past. Well, and to come back in something like a film like this with some artistic credit to it. And a big name director. A big name director. Whom I've worked with, David O.

Russell. Three Kings with George Clooney and Mark. That's my favorite David O. Russell movie. Oh, no.

Okay. But listen, but I say worked with. I laid in the sand dead. My name in the title, or my name in the credits is, my character name is Dead Iraqi Soldier. Three things that I am not.

But the question I now have to ask, I guess, because I've done it with everybody else I've talked to, did he yell at you at some point? Oh, right. No, no. But, oh, I'm sorry. But the riff with George Clooney had happened while I was there.

We were filming in El Centro, California, and I didn't see what the riff was about or whatever, but I just knew that there was a lot of hush-hush tension on the set. Oh, George is here. Oh, David's here. They shouldn't see each other. So they weren't speaking when I was there, but I was only there for like, I laid in the sand dead.

So I'm not sure how much anybody cared that I was there. I was cheaper than the silicone dummy. You were done three days earlier and nobody told you. Nobody told me exactly. That's how I got the job.

I was, I was, I was cheaper than a silicone dummy that would have cost them $ 20, 000 to make. And I was there for a You know, a little bit. You hung around craft services and they were like, you're good. Go ahead. I cost him a soda and a carrot.

You know what I'm saying? But David Russell was fine with me. He didn't have to direct me at all. Just lie there dead. Oh, I like that position.

Good. And we were done. So my experience with him was like, he didn't yell at me. You're getting the fingers wrong. That's not a dead guy's hand.

No, it wasn't like that. Have you ever seen a chalk outline? What are you doing? Have you ever seen a chalk outline? He just did the visual.

Yeah. I was half buried in the sand and Mark Wahlberg, he tripped over my leg as he was backing up in one take and they didn't use that take. So anyway, I'm in the film. They flashed to my face for honestly one second. It is 1,001 and out.

All right. Okay. I was there. Yeah. Trip to El Centro, two days in the hot sand for 1,001 and gone.

All right. Well, okay, that really makes three for three that, like David O. Russell, even one of them who he did yell at still likes him. Yeah, so there you go. It's kind of interesting that, I guess that's somewhere we can go into for a minute here, is just kind of what our thoughts are on... him as a director i think he's moved in some very different like.

Directions yeah yeah yeah jennifer lawrence she swears by him and she said she would absolutely work with him again and. He's going to now they already announced it yeah oh okay i didn't hear that part yeah he's it's almost everybody from that movie he's got um bradley cooper's coming back she's coming back so yeah it's it's he's kind of like working with his friends so he keeps dragging everybody back in i guess because they're already signed on i think yeah yeah Yeah, well. I think he got something very right with Silver Lany's playbook, for sure. Now, the script, he didn't write, did he? It came from, what, a book, but he redid the script real time.

That's right, there you go. See, I wish I'd studied up my details. That's embarrassing. He didn't write it, did he? Oh, he did write it.

Okay, so he wrote a great script, is what I was going to say. It just makes it sound all the more impressive. Well, he couldn't have written that. He wrote it? I know.

I was like, that was so good. Yeah, but it wasn't. But obviously it was written by somebody who understood people with issues. Yeah, right? I mean, we all have our issues.

Which David is so impressed. With. Anger. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he said, we brought that up before, that we thought maybe he had personal ties. And he said it was because of his son, but he also says that his son not only has those issues, but also has the OCD that comes into play. So he puts a lot on his son when he tells the stories about this movie. He did. No, I saw him on a talk show talking about everything.

Is this uncomfortable with this level of publicity regarding his relationship? I guess we have to ask the son. So we've got to get him on the phone, I guess. Yeah, I know. Everyone's going to think, this is quite a son, right?

If that movie... All the inspiration came from this one kid. Poor thing. And how old is this kid? Is he like 12?

And he's like, Dad! Shut up! God! Now I'm gonna have issues. Every time I see my friends, they make fun of me.

I know, right? You would assume that's gonna happen now. I know. What meds are you on? Me?

None. I used to be on lithium and Seroquel and Abilify, but I don't take them anymore. They make me foggy and They also make me bloated. Yeah. I was on Xanax and Effexor, but I agree, it wasn't as sharp, so I stopped.

You ever take Klonopin? Klonopin, yeah. Right? Jesus. Like, is it what?

Yeah. What day is it? How about Trazodone? Trazodone. Oh, it flattens you out.

I mean, you are done. It takes the light right out of your eye. I bet it does. I'm tired. I want to go.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We haven't. We haven't even finished the salad yet, or the duck. I made the fire and ice cake. I said I'm tired.

Are you going to walk me home or what? You mean me? Yeah, you. Are you going to walk me home? You have poor social skills.

You have a problem. I have a problem? You say more inappropriate things than appropriate things. You scare people. I tell the truth, but you're mean.

What? I'm not telling the truth? Um, maybe I should drive them home separately? You can drive them both home. Now.

Stop talking about me in third person! You can take Tiffany home first. You love it when I have problems. You love it. You love it, Vaughn, because then you can be the good one.

Just say it. No, I don't. I don't. I just wanted to have a nice... God.

What is your problem? Nothing's my problem. I'm fine. I'm tired. I want to go.

Come on. Are you ready? You really want to go right now? Yes, I really want to go. But, I don't know.

Again, I think... I wonder how different the book is, because to me it takes a very specific turn midway in, and I'm assuming that's probably a lot of his doing. I don't know. But it focuses so heavily on the mental illness aspect in the beginning, I guess, to get you familiar with it. Right, exactly.

It changes gears massively at that midway point. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And Bradley Cooper, following his story, his character, I don't know, what was his character's name in the movie? I don't know if I even know. Anyway, it was Bradley Cooper's character.

It went through a transitional thing from being like this crazy raging person to having a heart and soul that we could understand by the end of it, which that was a nice ride to go on, I think. And he did a really good job. Again, he's done so many silly comedies and it's, you know, he's always just kind of played that or he's just there to be the pretty boy. So the fact that they, they, they give him that weird scar and then they like, I don't know, they, they have him like dressed in a trash bag the whole time and make him crazy and start yelling at people quite often. And so it's, it's a very different thing that he has to kind of bring to the table.

And both, both he and Jennifer Lawrence, they both have these quirks about them that, that were, so beautifully understated. They could have gone, pushed the envelope a little bit farther and it would have become a silly comedy, but it became a very real thing. We know someone like them, don't we? We've all met those people. They didn't advertise their quirks.

They just lived them. It was beautiful work. It was really beautiful work. And all the characters had these sort of quirks. All of them did.

Everybody had something. I love the mom so much. Oh, didn't you love her? She's amazing. That's a stunning performance.

Wasn't it, though? It was. I was still like, again, I'm just sitting there going, you know, you want to write off Robert De Niro because everybody loves Robert De Niro. I'm just like, oh, my. God, he's so good at this.

No, he was. He was. He was. You think maybe he's, you know, he's, he'll go for years and like, he won't get the big acclaim again. And then you watch him turn in this performance and I'm like, he's so good at it.

It's amazing. I couldn't ignore him. And then this, this, we obviously, if we're going to talk about Robert De Niro and acting, then we have to mention the scene where Jennifer Lawrence, basically shows him up character-wise, but also acting-wise. I mean, she goes toe-to-toe with that man and holds her own. No, no, seriously.

When she rattled off all the stats and whatever it was, oh my gosh. It was glorious. Which I just read today, those were all real. They were from a specific, like 2008 or something. There was a specific season and they were all real facts.

I was like, that's even more impressive because then she had to get it all right, too. Right, and to rattle that off, that's a memorization nightmare as an actor, but then to feel it and live it and sell it, girlfriend worked at. Okay. Well, that's, that's one of those that like, again, I mean, everything I've seen of her has been pretty impressive and she showed, you know, some more than others, but, but definitely this one coming in, I thought, okay, it's still going to lend sort of to that, that acting chops kind of thing that she brings to it. But, When she gets in, like, again, in the beginning, she's just kind of easing her way into it, but when she gets in that middle part and just sort of starts holding her own with everybody, maybe it's flashbacks from the fighter, because it did feel a little like bringing the girl in to hold your own against your entire family.

But, yeah, she, like, that was the part. I was just like, okay, once again, like, she deserves that Oscar, because she stood there and, like, not just, like, the rattling off the facts, but just, like, not backing off from anything, like, being completely, like, and just sort of coming in and almost commanding the room for this 25-year-old little girl that kind of walked in out of the street. I don't know. It's a really impressive performance, and I guess that's why they gave her an Oscar. But still, yeah, she earned it because it's amazing.

Yeah, I love that part of her character and Bradley's as well. Neither one of them had an edit button in there. Didn't he mention that somewhere in the dialogue somewhere that he doesn't know? I don't have a filter. I don't have a filter.

Oh, it's glorious because, yeah, people use that as an excuse now. Like, I have this condition or that condition, and therefore I get to say whatever rude thing I want to you. Yeah. So they live that one out for sure. But that's what was so interesting is that, you know, all the other characters were pretty much as crazy as them.

It's just they did have the edit button. They'd never been committed. That's right. That's right. I know.

It seems like, you know, the friend that would pull him to the side and talk about how terrible his life is and all the things that he does to get away from it. And you're like, every bit is messed up. It's just he used to only say those things in private. He was one of my favorite parts. Like, just it was so real.

So real. Like, I know so many people who have that marriage. Yes. I won't name them. But I'm just like, it feels like that, like anytime they're away from the other half, they're just like, oh my God, they're killing me.

I'm just like, wow, really? This is your life? And everybody thinks their lives are horrible and they're crazy and they make fun of them and talk about them behind their back. But I'm like, look at what's going on in your life. Right.

The running theme was we all have issues and we deal with them on different planes in different ways, don't we? Yeah. But even, you know, dad is almost as crazy, really. I'm just like, his OCD is out of control. His gambling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. His fan from a stadium. Yeah. His violence, obviously, is there. Bradley Cooper came by it honestly.

Yeah. With his parents, for sure. And yet somehow pulls it off where he's still like, again, I'm sitting there going, he's kind of my dad. I mean, he doesn't have all those issues, but I'm like, he comes off as such a dad sometimes and like still makes him very lovable, but kind of crazy, like legitimately crazy. So it's, yeah, everybody has their weird, crazy issues in this book.

Do. The three of us do right now. I think that's one of the things I took from this so much is, you know, finally a movie for me. A movie about crazy people. So yeah, I don't pretend any different.

The whole, I love the subplot of the dance. The practicing, the rehearsing, the committing to something that may not be your bag but you committed to it and And I love seeing him with his being pulled with commitment to family and the baseball. Baseball. Football. Football.

You know what I mean? I'm a sports nut. Philadelphia just took. I'm sorry, Philadelphia. So between that and then the commitment to that whole dance competition was just so great.

And I love that they didn't reveal the whole routine to us, all those rehearsal scenes until the end when we saw this ridiculous thing they came up with that they, again, committed 100% to. And, you know, you've got all these people doing great flamenco dancing, and they've got the feathers in the hair and the thing and the posing and the posture, and these two get out there, and they're just like at a high school dance just going, whoo! You know what I mean? Pretty much. But full-on rehearsed, right?

And they were ready to do it, you know? I loved it so much. That middle section where they're just doing the monkey or whatever they were doing. It was a mess. And it came to a great finale when they got a score that was so mediocre, but it was just mediocre enough to get their money in the bag.

It was, oh, shut up. This is Spoiler City, what we're doing right now. So if you haven't seen the movie, stop listening. Five minutes ago. They were fully warned at the beginning.

They were, all right. But, no, the reaction is priceless. They've got so much writing on this mediocre score that, like, nobody understands. So, yeah, it's hilarious that they get so excited about a five. Yeah, this family hugging each other, jumping up and down with a six-point-nothing score.

For a five-point, yeah. When I got to that middle section, I was like, I don't know if they're going to get a five. Yeah, I know. I know. That's what I said.

But it played out so beautifully because the whole time, I mean, I know for me watching it, I was so scared because you know it's leading. The movie's leading toward a dance-off. And you're like, this could turn into the cheesiest, worst movie ever. Right, right. And it was handled so pitch perfectly.

So beautifully. Yeah, pitch perfectly. And so, and with the tone of the film. And I was afraid that, because I knew there was that dance aspect coming, so I was afraid they were really, because if you didn't, again- Not seeing the movie, I was like, so they're just cashing in on Dancing with the Stars? It really seemed like it was just going to be a huge section that that's all...

It was just pulling in those fans. And it really isn't. The practice is such a huge part of it, but the actual dancing... You don't even watch the other people. You just get that segment of them and then all the other drama going on around it.

But it doesn't focus on the dancing. Other than their performance. That was just a backdrop for all the drama that was happening. Which I thought was actually a really... Clever way to go, and he didn't just go for what was easy to bring in a crowd.

I was impressed with... It was kept at bay and didn't completely take over the plot for the whole last third of the movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Another favorite moment of mine was in the street after the dance comedy when he runs out to catch her, right? And he starts reading his response to... the letter that he thought came from his wife, but it was actually from the Jennifer Lawrence character, right?

And when he said, yeah, I know you wrote this, and the look on her face, again, so beautifully underplayed, and yet so, everything registered immediately, like she'd been caught, but then, oh good, this is because we're having this moment because of it. Oh! Oh! He's like, that's a payoff. That's a payoff that worked for me.

Yeah. Um. I love the reaction. I don't know where to go with that. Moving on.

No, I'm just trying to hit all the points. There's so many, because I kind of have a big Indian one, but yeah, I want to come back to that. I do want to hit before that, I love the doctor. He was the only one that I was a little on the fence about. Well, I didn't, again, I just didn't expect that.

The therapist. Yeah, when he goes in. The Indian therapist. Oh, the therapist. Oh my gosh, yes.

Just because he plays it so atypical of every stupid movie doctor. He just does it so differently in the office. And then it's so funny when they see him when they're waiting at the football game. At the tailgate party. Yeah, I don't know.

I kind of liked that one. I didn't expect that when he went into the office. I was afraid it was going to be just, again, another great segment from another movie. But yeah, he went a different. Way with it.

It was full of little subtle surprises. You wouldn't think that a movie with talking heads would have that much meat to it and that much new. It's proof that a good story still sells. You don't need car chases for every one of them. You know what I mean?

Absolutely. Did you feel he was a little too over the top? Yeah, for me. That was the only part that felt a little silly sometimes. But otherwise.

There's got to be a weird doctor out there somewhere. I'm sure there are. Usually they're just weird in other ways. He was just kind of funny weird. My main one early on was, again, I haven't been to Philadelphia, so anybody out there listening who's there right now, is it true that in Philadelphia no one uses sidewalks?

They did nothing but walk down the middle of the street. The entire movie. I was just, okay, there have to be cars sometimes, right? No, no, no. Here's what I'll defend them.

When I go jogging in my neighborhood, I do it in the middle of the street because on the sidewalk, it's driveway up, driveway down, driveway up, driveway down, driveway up. It wasn't a convenient thing for them. It was like they never, for a minute, when she left the dance contest at the end there, she's on a sidewalk. And then she immediately runs into the street for the big finale. It's more dramatic.

I was just like, they can't stay out of the middle of the street. It's more cinematic to be in the middle of a street. They've got mom and dad. They should be yelling at them to stay out of the streets. That's what they should be doing.

I take it to the sense that it was a smaller suburb of Philadelphia just because the cop to person ratio seemed to be one to one. Like that cop was everywhere. It was everywhere. Like as soon as any kind of altercation, it's like knock, knock, knock. I know.

And it's the same cop. The response time was amazing. If only that was for real. The cop was played by somebody familiar. He's from a bunch of stuff and now I cannot.

I'm having trouble because I remember going, oh, that guy. And then now it's gone. It's gone. It's gone. See I should have researched I should have I wrote down other ones I didn't get to the cops I didn't get that far we really.

Want to know we have an implement for that uh oh I'm going to cheat I don't know are you hooked into the web or not on that little iPad device should be we'll see did I just advertise for iPad by saying iPad as long as. They send us a huge check I'm. Fine with it or an iPad. Case of iPads just hand out to the listeners thanks or. Sell to the listeners A nominal fee.

Are you hooked into cellular use with that iPad device? The 3G technology. The 3G technology. Okay. I don't have devices, so I don't know.

This is my first device. You guys can. We'll talk amongst ourselves while she's looking things up. We can do that. And then I'll come back and I'll pretend.

We can edit it all out so I can just run through. Oh, that's quick. Look at that. I can do my Jennifer Lawrence thing where I run down every film he's ever been in. But you have to do it kind of hostile.

That's how I do most things. Yeah, you're so sassy. And it really is taking a long time. Sorry, guys. The actor's name Lucy is searching for is Dash Mihawk.

No, really. It's Dash Mihawk. That's okay. Would it be better with 4G or maybe even 5G? I don't know.

We need more Gs. We need more Gs, yeah. The more Gs, the better, right? I've been saying for a while now they need to send us some Gs. It's like money.

The more, the better, right? They never do. They never do. Let's just take a look. Okay, so hey, what else is up?

What else is up with this movie's silver linings playbook? What's the title about, do you think? I mean, he certainly references the silver lining all the time. Right. And I guess they keep telling him he needs to get a plan and get his...

So again, they never do the cheesy thing of spelling out the line. You have to scream it out when they mention the name of the movie within the movie, somewhere in the dialogue. They don't quite take it that far. So is it more like a. There's a silver lining to every cloud.

However, you might need to have a plan to find it or see it or recognize it. A mixture of both of them. Because he keeps, like, during his therapy kind of stuff in the beginning, he keeps talking about the silver lining. Like, this horrible thing that happened, you know, could ruin his life. But now, you know, look at me.

I'm thin and I've got my mind right. So, I mean, he's, I guess, trying to reach for some sort of, you know, good thing that came out of it. And. Which, by the way, does anybody blame him for that? Like, okay, maybe not manslaughter, but, you know, he needed to beat the hell out of that guy.

I'm sorry. That was a great, with the flashback, if it played out like that for real. And, yes, he deserved a punch in the face. Yeah, I was like, people are, I mean, maybe stop him a little sooner. But, you know, I was like.

Sure, sure. Dude was asking for it. When you're a visiting man with someone's wife in their shower. In their shower. And you're caught naked.

You don't have a whole lot of say in that moment. And he acted like he had say, the professor guy. I believe he said, I think you need to leave or something to that effect. Like, you need to leave your own house while I finish up doing the wife. And that's probably not going to.

I think I need to pound your face into the child. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, that's why, as an audience, we were on Bradley's side, I think, even though he went over the top. But I think we understood the backstory, didn't we? And I love the pacing and the way it was revealed.

Yes. We didn't know everything right up front. Exactly. Because, yeah, that beginning part, you assume he just, you don't know what he did. You don't know what he did.

He just, like, ran off. But, you know, he's there, so probably not. But, again, you don't realize the, but those quick flashes, like, it is very violent when. He goes off on us. Yeah, but I think all that makes Bradley Cooper character more human as we go along.

He went from being a raging psycho to, like, okay, I get it. I'm sympathetic to him now, you know? And we need that because he crosses the line a little bit there. I mean, just the. Waking them up at four in the morning, throwing a book out the window.

It was already pretty annoying. It's funny, but it's pretty annoying if you were really living that. And then by the time he, like, injures his mom while looking for the wedding video, it's, I don't know. At that point, you could start to not be on his side. No, no, no.

That was a tough one. Yeah. Okay. And getting in a fight with his dad. But he's screaming, I'm sorry, and crying, and he doesn't like that part of himself.

Right, right. And he just doesn't have. Control over it. Which I thought he played beautifully. We talk about Jennifer a lot, but Bradley, that was his shine. moment in the film.

And he was so good. It kind of broke my heart that he was nominated opposite Daniel Day-Lewis, because you know in that year, you're done. In any year. In any year. Like, if he's acting.

Right, he's going to win. Right, yeah. And, well, I know we're not talking about Lincoln, but was he not? Yeah. Shut up Lincoln yeah he was Abraham Lincoln shut up there's no asking questions.

We were afraid he was going to get shot at the Oscar just full on method he was going to go for it yeah yeah yeah oh. Gosh I love that Seth Rogen made that Seth Rogen Seth MacFarlane, the host of the house, who made that Lincoln joke about getting shot at the theater or whatever. And he said, what, too soon? It's always too soon for Lincoln jokes. You've got to be careful.

But he's beloved and he should be. I'd like him to be president now. Sometimes I feel like he is, honestly. It's come full circle. Reincarnation of Lincoln as Obama.

Of course. Did I get us off track? We're talking about politics. As we should be. We are usually off track on this show.

I don't know what track we were on. Oh, good. I liked Halloween. I think I just like any movie where they work Halloween into it. So getting to watch them wander around with everybody in costume in the middle of the street, kids and everybody.

In the middle of the street because they don't use sidewalks, right? Crazy Philadelphia people don't use sidewalks. A few of the kids did, but some of them were still. I'm like, parents, really? Come on.

There's rules here, damn it. You're just teaching the kids to not obey the rules. Why did you order raisin bread? Why did you order tea? Because you ordered raisin bread.

I ordered Raisin Bran because I didn't want there to be any mistaking it for a date. It can still be a date if you order Raisin Bran. It's not a date. So how's your thing going? Dancing thing?

It's good. How's your restraining order? I wouldn't actually call the restraining order my thing, but getting back with Nikki is, and I think I'm. Doing pretty well. Yeah, their whole little not a date date.

Raising brand makes it not a date. Wasn't that great? Ah, love. And when she, when she went off in the diner and had her moment to like to prove a point or whatever it was, it was, Oh, again, again, like, Oh, the discomfort. I was, uh, yeah.

Have you been in a situation like that before where you're with somebody who's being a little too loud or a little too something and you're like, it's going to happen. Here we go. We're going to get kicked out of somewhere. Right. And they, they work in a really, well, it's kind of that same thing.

They work in that reveal with her too. You don't even know why she's like, everybody's treating her like she's a crazy person when, you know, okay, your husband died, but you know. That's sad, but why are they acting like, you know, and then she starts rattling off all the medication. Yes. You start getting the sense of, okay, she's not doing too well.

But yeah, you get to like that reveal before you really get to her reasoning and her way of dealing with it and her sleeping with the office. Oh my gosh. Her matter of fact delivery about her sluttiness was glorious, I thought. And that's a performance that's kind of hard to do. Again, I don't know how much of that. you know, was from the page versus what she did with it because it makes her.

Or what David O. Russell yelled at her to do. Yeah, that too. Whichever. Right.

It worked, you know. We don't know. We weren't there, dude. Oscar-winning actress. That's right.

It worked. That's right. It did work. But yeah, she, like, it really, it could have come off as silly and it could have come off as her, like, taking it too far, but it really, like, all of a sudden you start to see That, you know, her owning it, like that point where she's just like, yeah, I'm not ashamed of what I did. You know, I don't want to do that anymore, but that's who I am.

It's a weird moment. It's something that most people I don't think can do even in the real world. So it's, I don't know, that was really interesting watching her go through that. Indeed. And 20-minute lull.

Nice. So one more chapter and we're done here, right? Yeah. I just make sure we hit them all. If not, we can get into the big round and not the whole thing here.

The big round? Is that the lightning round? No. Like a quiz show? I guess it was kind of.

Right. Oh. Fighting. Because there's a lot. I think it definitely...

I guess if there's something that's very, very movie-like, it's that point. It's when we get to the dance... It takes that turn where we almost forget the whole mentally issues. All of that stuff kind of disappears. It suddenly becomes almost just a normal romance kind of thing.

You just get him with the other girl and you get her jealous and she's like, The same standard of, you know, I'm in love with my best friend, but I don't know how to tell him kind of thing. And they're all incredibly sane during this time, during that finale, I thought. Yeah. And the ex-wife that's not an ex-wife yet shows up. Yeah.

So that dynamic is there. Yeah, I forgot all about the crazy parts. Yeah, totally. Like, it flips the switch and it just becomes a romance. The thing is, I think that ends up working more than I expected.

Like, if you described that to me, I would be like, oh, never mind. I hate this movie. And, like, I think it works so well. Like, somehow they pull off that aspect all on its own, like its own little mini-movie at the end there, that, like, you kind of forgive the fact that they're just like, eh, we used to be crazy. But now we're all better.

There's no real, like, therapeutic thing that happens. There's no medication. They weren't healed through dance? Well, yeah. But, I mean, that's, like, overnight.

I don't know. Because they were still pretty crazy during all the rehearsal. And, like, the day before when they were arguing about other stuff. But, like, it just totally... Which again, I think it takes a different message by the end of it.

I think the really sappy romance part of it comes in and it's like all of a sudden it's, well, all they needed was to be loved. I mean, isn't that really what it comes around to saying? It's just like. It doesn't turn out like it's Cuckoo's Nest. All it turns out is just like, well, you know, really all they needed to be okay was somebody to actually give a damn about them and not screw them over.

Is that a great message? I think so. It's one of those, it should be cliched and I should hate it, but by the end I was like, well, no, you're kind of right. You can't argue that point. Why do you think I'm so damn crazy?

No Jennifer Lawrence, that's the problem. So.... But that's... And that's the other thing I took from the end there, like out in the street, the big finale, if you will, is like watching that and sitting there in the theater going, how much movies can sort of be like the surrogate for you, for like life? Because I'm sitting there going, and I know this moment, this is the big moment in all these type of movies.

I don't have this moment. Like, I don't think I've ever had that moment. And it's like you... You come to expect it, like, in life. You come to, like, you know, it's what you're supposed to be looking for, and, like, we know it because of movies.

We, like, live vicariously through these characters. I don't know. I thought that was kind of interesting, sitting there in the theater, drifting away from the story to go. the hell's wrong with my life right so but i think i don't have moments in the middle of the streets. Yeah i don't have these big movies yeah i don't have these movie moments. Backlighting fog machine you don't have.

Wandering in the street not getting hit by a car i yeah i. Don't i have that i mean i hire a crew but i get. It yeah you do have it because you're magical we've discussed But I think it is one of those things that we've watched so many movies over the years that we start to like apply these things to our own life. And we have expectations, don't we? Yeah.

We come to expect them in our life. This is the arc of my story where the ending should be coming any time now. Yeah. But I'm still unemployed. I'm still, you know.

My mom still hates me. Whatever it is, right? Yeah. Because again, it could have, like, it's a very non-traditional story up to that point. It takes a very Hollywood ending and I don't hate it.

I don't hate it. But I feel like, you know, normally I should and they pull it off somehow. But it's funny how much it does take that turn because it could have gotten a lot of horrible, like some terrible things are like laid out there in the beginning. Right, right. Possibly, what's the, oh, her reveal of the husband dying.

I mean, that might have been the best moment in the movie, like her telling that story of him and then them already. Again, it's like the real world creeping in them already not being in a perfect place and them already trying to deal with their own problems. And then this much bigger problem swoops in. And like, I don't know that that part is like heartbreaking. And then by the end, it just sort of, you know, it's all OK again.

So it does take a very Hollywood movie turn. Well, can't life have happy endings, can't it? Yes. I like happy endings. I'm a sap for that.

If you remember correctly, the last time we were here was Somewhere in Time. A very... Which is sappy. Well, I don't know. It didn't have a happy ending.

It's a sad ending. It's kind of the reverse. It's super sappy and then takes that turn at the end and just... Sticks a knife in your stomach. Right.

Well, yeah, he died a very depressing death. But it was revealed they were back together again. So ultimately, thank you. In the wonderful magic afterlife, maybe. That's right.

Talk about a Hollywood ending. Yeah. Yeah. We can fix this before the credits. Right before the credits.

Come on. I'm all for Hollywood endings. Yeah. I'm hoping for one this weekend myself. I keep waiting.

So I'm okay with that. As long as we each get issued our Hollywood ending, I'm okay all. Right it's a deal it's a deal as we get issued one yeah is there a line at the dmv for that you. Gotta wait in line in hollywood i'm assuming and they issue you your hollywood. Ending right of course of course but no.

That's that's i think that's the thing as much of a bastard as i am the rest of the time i am a sap at heart and i i still like if they if they do it well I can come around and I'm just like, no, no, they want me over. Like it's, it, it's a sappy ending. And like, it totally works for me. And then they're all like, not only do they get the romance angle, but then the family like almost perfects itself at that point. Like dad's not so angry anymore and not so OCD.

Did you notice the remote controls? I just heard that. The crazy remote control thing with them, like, they always had to be on the side table. They always had to be facing a certain way. In that final shot, they're on the coffee table sitting totally different.

Oh, that was. So even Dad's, like, sort of gotten over his... Did they draw much attention to that? No, they really didn't. But it's like, it's just one of...

Again, it's just him working on all these little subtle things. Right, okay. Like, everything's sort of writing itself. And, like, now the whole family is there, and the brother's there, and they don't hate each other. And so...

His picture's back on the wall. Yeah. I think the other picture was nice. That was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was a really cheesy picture of him.

Which was great. It was awesome that it was a real picture. I was like, that has to be his high school photo. Which brings up the brother, too. The brother dynamic was great, right?

Obviously, the prize child that's successful and doing well, and we're proud of him. Yeah. Of course, his picture's on the wall. Yeah. As he's laying on the floor.

Collecting dust, yeah. Precious. But, yeah, I don't know. It definitely, like, rounds it out with, like, the perfect ending. Like, them having the perfect home life with the family and the romance going on.

And, yeah, it seems like I should be really angry at this movie. And somehow, damn you, David O. Russell, you made it okay. Yeah, you did. You did.

So, I guess all that yelling worked out. Yell all you want, David O. Russell. Right. Keep making art.

Right? That's what I say. It seems to work. Did we hit everything we needed to? Nice.

I think we hit everything the listeners want us to hit. Probably. They're probably like, yeah, are we done already? Long-winded farts all of you? I don't think so.

No? We ramble on way longer than that. Yeah, I do. Don't you miss? You do?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. You know how movie geeks are. Once we get into it.

Had I seen this movie yesterday, I would have gone on much longer, I'm sure. How long ago did you see it? Oh, golly. I don't know. It's been, I saw it the week before the Oscars.

When were they? Like a month ago, probably. Yeah. That's not too bad. That's not too bad.

It's been a month. For me to remember that much detail at all. Yeah. That's what's so impressive. That's kooky.

Because I don't remember, I can't remember my own birthday often. The older I get, especially. I like to forget it. But, you know what I'm saying? It's probably because you meet 4,000 people a day.

And they're taking all of your brain space with like their. Well, that's what I've learned at this convention. It's happened again today where somebody comes back to my table for a second time. Oh, God. And I'm like, hi, how are you?

What's your name? It's still Cody. Oh, shoot. Yes, Cody. I've seen 4,000 people since then.

I know, I know. And I used to have face recognition, and I don't anymore. I've got that condition now where everyone looks the same. It's not your fault. Because, yeah, I, you know, with anybody I see at those, like, there are people I will see, like, from one day to the next and i i just don't assume they're gonna you know if it's not somebody i actually know in the real world it's like i'll at least say hi just for the thing but they're probably just like hey how's it going weirdo i don't know you so i just assume that now because i know how much though i mean you're overrun with people and like what a lifestyle it is for a lot of people to do that that like it's also you know 20 times a year maybe so it's like you you hit that many That routine becomes a routine.

So it's a lot to keep up with. So I give you credit for hanging in there and dealing with that. Doing my best. Thank you. You're very precious.

I guess, you know, we can throw the plug out there one more time. TheDougJonesExperience.com. TheDougJonesExperience.com is my official website on the interweber net. Still possibly my favorite website address ever. On the internet.

Did we talk about this before? About the glitch that happened with that address? Yeah. I don't think so. Oh, this is the best story ever.

Do we have a minute? Oh, yeah. I'm being interviewed on a talk show in Atlanta, Georgia on television while I was down there filming a short film called The Candy Shop. It's a very, very poignant short film that addresses the issue of child sex trafficking happening here in the United States. Very heavy subject matter.

That's why we were on the show. We're on this local talk show with the director of the movie and the producer of the movie and me. Oh, and also a lady from an organization called Street Grace, which exists to get girls off the streets and back into mainstream life and trying to abolish the issue on all levels. child sex trafficking is it's customers, it's pimps, and it's the abused. So it's like there's many things going on there. So this is an organization I really believe and love, Street Grace.

And so we're there talking about their organization, this movie, how they all relate together, and the bad that's going on in the world, and here's how we can try to make it better, and let's band together as a community. So introductions. They're running our websites under each one of our faces as they do a close-up on us, right? thedougjonesexperience.com. Now, the thing is, that web address often gets blocked if there's a heavy firewall at some schools or things because the word sex is in that title. The Doug Jones X experience, right?

So there's an S and an EX all together. Well, someone was obviously trying to, I don't know what happened, but my web address comes up as, and I'm not kidding you, the doug jones sex experience.com in order to avoid it they added another sex in there or something Right? And get this, get this, get this. This is even better. This is even better.

The DougJonesSexExperience.com running under my face on a Christian television station. Thank you. And good night. I think we found where the real money is. Yeah, okay.

We need to get this other website up and running. Well, I did when I saw that. I didn't see it until it aired that night on TV in Atlanta, and I screamed. in horror and utter delight at the same time. It was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life. I thought a still shot of me going, you know, with a Doug Jones sex experience under my face.

Oh my gosh. So I typed that web address in to see like, is there something out there? Thank goodness it was like, you know, you can buy this domain. So you immediately. Claimed that domain.

Right. You're like, yeah, here we go. From my home videos. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you know.

Oh, my gosh. As long as they pay their membership dues, you know. Right. Then I'll give them whatever they want. You know what I'm saying?

If that's what's buttering my bread, okay. Money is money, especially on the internet. You guys are horrible people. That's not the first time. No, I know.

But that is a horrible set of circumstances. That that happened to you. And I just took us really off topic that time, didn't I? Didn't I? Oh, no.

That's a good closer. Is that a good closer? That's a great closer. Okay, good. Yay.

Wow. Yeah, I feel bad for you having to sit there. I know. I sent a little email to the TV station going, before you rerun this, you might want to fix a little glitch. Just put a piece of cardboard over there.

Just block it out. You don't even have to show my address. It's okay. It's fine. It's fine.

Oh, that unicorn keeps texting me. I know, I know. Let's call him Phineas. Phineas the unicorn. You are so magicalized.

I don't know how he texts with that hoof. I don't know. He's really quite adept at the phone. Oh. Well, I guess we should let you get to your unicorn and ride it off into the rainbow or however this is.

Oh, that's probably actually Appearance Manager Derek. We have after-party festivities and commitments I have to do for this convention tonight and so forth and so on. So I imagine the next phase of my night is about to happen. Well, we can let you get to that. Oh.

Send them on their merry way. Well, it's always great to talk with you kids. Thank you so much for having me again. Is it really? Yeah, you're kind of our favorite.

Get out of here. I think last time it was possibly favorite person on earth. I'm paraphrasing, but I think that's kind of what we decided. Aw, that's love talk. We're officially adopting you, I think.

So anytime you want to come on the show, you're more than welcome to sit in. Well, that's love. Well, thank you for keeping an eye on the WeberNet to see that I was going to be in the region again so that we could get together and have this love. Yeah, I like having regulars so you can be an official member. Oh, yay!

Okay, so my third time will be a charm. That makes me a regular, right? So, okay, next time. Okay, it's a deal. It's a deal.

Well, we can give you some sort of a membership, you know. reward or something right you're gonna get t-shirts coffee mugs you know you you earn them after a while and eventually. It's like the camel points by my fifth show with you that one's free is that that. Works yeah maybe we'll see depends on if those g's come. Rolling in yeah right yeah i know we need we need the 4g by then we're gonna need rates to pay for that talking crazy talk. All right well i think that will do it so otherwise we will return next week same geek time same geek feed thanks for listening.

Thank you for watching. So you took me to the party, you got me in. Well, pass me the whiskey, pass me the gin Pass me whatever the drink left. In Well, I don't care if it's seven in the morning For all I care could be the second coming Oh, you can't live like this. It's a really big deal.

Well, I don't care. I can't pay you too. And I don't give a fuck about your chances at all. Thank you. All right.

We're all right. We're always all right. We're all right. We're always all right. All right.

You should open a museum like Burt Reynolds did. Did he? Yeah, in Jupiter, Florida. Yes. You love your Burt Reynolds Museum.

No, it's amazing. I went there and it was the best place ever. I would so road trip with you to the Burt Reynolds Museum. Jupiter, Florida. This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by the Auditude Studios, with the opening music performed by the Empires.

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