222: Twisted Horror

Hi, I'm Adam Green, the director of Hatchet, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. It's showtime. The following feature has been rated R by the Motion Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised. Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.

What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and with me we have special guest co-host for a minute anyway. This is Freddy from Night of the Living Podcast. I'm Amy from that same show. And I'm Kelly, and you know who I am.

And we're coming to you live from where? Horror Hound Weekend Cincinnati at the Crown Plaza North and Sharonville Convention Center. It's both. It's spilled over. It's spilled over like a bowl full of jelly.

It's spilled over all kinds. Yes. It is Sunday, and I have reached the level of tiredness that means I am nonverbal. She said she was going to climb under the table and nap. I bought shirts.

I also bought shirts. I'm wearing my Walking Fred t-shirt. That I got from an awesome company that I don't remember the name of at the moment. It looks like Fred Flintstone, only he's a zombie. It's only half of him, like the lady in the opening episode that Rick was sorry to shoot in the face.

Nice. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Classy stuff here at Horror. It's nothing but class. Class and ass.

We're loitering around your table here. How has it been for you guys this weekend? Really good, actually. You know, a lot of traffic, obviously, because there's a gazillion people here. So it's worked out really well.

We've made some funds. We've raised them from the dead and into our pockets for keeping the show going. So you know what that's like. Yes, sadly. Got a hustle?

As we don't get any donations every week, yes, I do. It's really hard. You know and uh but it's been good it's been good at this show for that now i feel really guilty for saying. That and i'm sorry if somebody wants to donate to movie meltdown how would they do. That uh movie meltdown.com and do they click on a button there's a button over there donate to the show we had a whole fundraiser going by now you probably missed it but that doesn't really matter we'll still take your money gladly so.

They always need it as a fellow podcaster i can say that When you, you know, you run out of your own money really quick, and then if your listeners don't help you out, then you're just running out of money that you're borrowing from people. Sadly. I continue to go in the hole every week. It's a sad state of affair. But it's a love affair.

It is, because we still get, like, really cool stuff. And I think we, like, you know, you guys go through this, too. You end up, like, capturing these amazing moments that, like, you would never do. Like, sitting around by yourself, you wouldn't do. But, like, you get your friends together, you turn on the mic, and, like, it becomes a whole different thing.

Yeah, absolutely. It's kind of awesome. Beautiful. Isn't it? It's the best thing about doing this is like all the awesome people that you meet and all the weird things that happen and all the cartoon characters that you turn into and robots.

We do have some cartoon characters on our show. I'll give you that. I'm done. You're done listing things? Yeah.

Okay, good. So usually we kick off ours with whatever we've been watching or something to that effect. Have you guys seen anything? I don't know if it has to be from here, but... I really haven't watched much lately, so I was seeing if you guys have watched anything good.

I've been watching a lot of Downton Abbey. I'm just discovering it. Horror at its finest. Yeah, it can be very scary sometimes. Because apparently at one time... we were either going to.

Be a lord or a lady or a butler or a footman or something, and I didn't know that. I don't like this breakdown because I know my luck. I'll be sweeping up after somebody. I'm really excited about re-watching the Back to the Future trilogy Blu-rays that I bought months ago and haven't got around to watching yet. I still want the Eric Stoltz footage, damn it.

Oh, have you seen it? Well, we've gotten still shots. There's a little bit, but they've got two-thirds of that movie with him in it. I'm like. You want to see the whole thing stitched together, don't you?

I think everybody's going to have to dial off before they'll... Eventually, somewhere down the line, I'm sure they'll put it out. You should have asked Dean Koundé if he had it with him. He probably carries that shit around on reels and cans. Just to impress people.

Come back to my room, check this out. Young ladies who are really into Eric Stoltz. You're like, hey, you know Teen Heartthrob Eric Stoltz? He doesn't come off well in that story, actually. Yeah, that's true.

I've heard some bad things about him on the set there. Eric Stoltz or Dean Koundé? We'll go with Eric Stoltz. Oh, okay, Eric Stoltz. We'll go with that.

Well, I just heard he was very method-y and was kind of pissing off the other actors. I just stuck the mic in Amy's face for no reason at all. I was going to say, isn't he directing Glee episodes now? Which one? Eric Stoltz.

I've lost track of my Glee. I'm sorry. You lost track of Stoltzy? And Glee. And Glee.

Glee Stoltzy. I'm going to have a daughter and name her Glee Stoltzy. Oh, she's going to get so picked on. She is. What are you named after?

Like Eric Stolz in an episode of Glee? Yeah. Right before they pound her face. Yeah. That's my bruised daughter.

The Dinosaur Project is good. I want everybody to watch it. Is it recent? Yeah, it just came out. Okay.

In fact, let me break it down. Let me break it down for you, Movie Meltdown listeners. The Dinosaur Project is a found footage, and maybe some of you are groaning. Stop it. It's a found footage dinosaur movie, and the effects are good, and that's all you need to know.

If it's a dinosaur movie and the effects are good, that's all that counts. But there's also fun acting, and they're British. And it came in under the radar. Nobody knew about it. Unless you just were like reading, you happened to be reading horror sci-fi news and knew it was happening.

Like it got released for a minute in Britain and then nothing here. And then I found it. I accidentally found it on Redbox. I mean, I knew about it and it wasn't on Netflix or anything. Rented it on Redbox.

Fucking great. Watch it. It's dinosaurs. You'll be glad you did it. Very cool.

They kill people. I thought of this. If you like short films, Tony Walsh's A Chance in Hell that they screened today is awesome. Nice. And I know that you can get that from Scotchworthy.com.

And I have to make sure I said that because it's that good. Plug. We'll plug. Have you seen the ABCs of Death? No, not yet.

26 shorts? It's mixed for me. Oh, yeah? I love the idea. Like, it seems like a brilliant plan, and then you get in there, and I'm like, oh, really, guys?

Well, it's 26 short films, right? Yeah. I mean, it's worth watching to get the good ones, but there's a lot of them that I'm like, you spent money on this? How long is it? It's still, like, normal time, so you get some of them that are just, like, a two-minute thing.

Oh, okay. You get some that are, you know. Four or five. Some of it reminded me of, like, liquid television type stuff. Like the claymation ones?

Yeah, like the old MTV, like Aeon Fluxy type of looking. I don't know. It's interesting. There's a little bit of everything. There is a clay animation one.

There is an animation kind of worked in. There's some that are super old school, like just everything's done semi-practical. There's some that have bad CG. It's a grab bag of all kinds of film tricks and styles. In a way, that seems great, but there's so many of them that I'm just so let down by.

Yeah, I can imagine. Because it seems like the 12-year-old boy made it. And I'm like, really? It's all potty humor. I was like, really?

Like, you've got this unlimited, you know, thing. You can put together this great, scary movie. And instead, they're just like, they're in the toilet jokes every time. I'm just like. Yeah, that's ridiculous.

But it's not all of them. Movie Meltdown, you're home for fart. We're better than that. Yeah. So, yeah, I think I just expected more for some of them.

But there's some really good ones along the way, so. It's worth it overall, but you've got to sit through some less impressive pieces of film. Let's put it that way. Well, it's all death. I mean, some of it's sure probably going to be funny, but as much as I love horror movies, I don't like to be bummed out.

Yeah. So I hear John dies at the end is pretty amazing. Have you seen that yet? I did see that. It was a lot of fun.

Yeah, that's why I'm dying for it. He's a fun director, and I think as he's gone on, I think he's gotten more and more okay with being silly. Yeah. He lets this one be very fun and kind of light, so it works for it. Yeah.

It's a fun movie. I'm in. I'm in for that. I just have to get my hands on it. I think it's on demand still, right?

It played once in Louisville. And it was a midnight show. It was the only way they could get it here. That's the only time I think we had it playing in town. I'm glad I got to see it on the screen, but it's a fun movie.

Yeah. They screened some fun stuff here i i'm sure your listeners would have enjoyed maniac yeah i mean it's a quality movie. Steve was just telling me about a minute ago over here he really liked it too yeah i was afraid that would go badly but he he really liked. It yeah i was a little worried because i didn't like the original i and uh and i thought it was going to be it looked From what I had seen, it looked pretty similar, but then I got in there and it was really good. Yeah, that's what he said.

Yeah, it's a huge improvement on the original. What can you do? I don't know. That's about all I've seen. You too?

Yeah, that's our weekend so far. I mean, you don't want to hear about all the sitcoms. I have resolved just now to go back and do a rewatch on seasons 8 and 9 of The X-Files. Because I've seen Robert Patrick three times now. I saw a picture of him.

Is it just me or does he have a crazy homeless beard going? He has a crazy homeless beard, but it's kind of working for him. Okay. He's wearing black pants and a black shirt today. It's working for me.

Okay? Whatever you need. Ladies and gentlemen, it's working for me right now. Whatever you need. So I think I'm going to go back and re-watch those and get a little Special Agent John Doggett in my life.

I think he can probably hook you up. And if you go hang around a sable, he can still probably hook you up, even today. Dollars to donuts, he could. And that's a reference, because Doggett used to say that. Yeah, I kind of tuned out as the seasons went on in that one.

I loved it all the way up. It's like that movie's the jump the shark for me. Eight and nine are the bastard children, but I really liked him. She was underrated. That's the thing, I like pieces of it, because I liked, was it Annabeth Gish they worked on with her?

I really like her, but she's so wasted by that point. I'm just like, why didn't you guys just give her her own show? Why didn't you just spin off and make them other people that had nothing to do with this? I think there was some contemplation of doing. That, but it never came to fruition.

And Robert Patrick was as good as he could be coming into a bad situation. You're stepping into someone else's shoes at this point, really. And he's handsome. So it's, you know, it was bad for them, but they were good. Again, there were good parts in it.

Right. It just had issues overall. It wasn't pure crap. And he revived the saying on that, when Robert Patrick was on the X-Files, he revived the saying, dollars to donuts. He said that.

Did you say that? Seriously, right now? It's loud in here. I was adjusting your scarf on me. It looks better on me.

He's busy dealing with his lady scarf that he couldn't listen to his own wife talk. Whatever. Are you better now? Okay. Which is most stylish?

What's most stylish in life, listeners? He's trying on a scarf. Do you like it this way or this way? Do you like it better just draped? This is good for an audio situation.

It works so well on the radios. Do you like it swooped over the shoulder? Is that too glamorous with a t-shirt? Do we need to get a photo to go along with this here? You should.

You need multiple photos. You can stitch it together, the different versions of me and the scarf. Here's one. We're done here. We have our options now.

We'll post them on our page, and that way you guys can vote for which way you like the scarf that he stole from his wife. Photo shoot! All right. I think that gets us in this week. Do you want to go ahead and plug your stuff?

Yeah, I want to plug my stuff. People should be listening to you. Hell, I've been listening to you since we started, so go to town. I love you, Brian. Obviously, I love you guys, too.

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Um, I had a really good time at the convention. There was a lot of people that seemed to let the disorganization of it get in the way of them just like enjoying themselves. But I kind of knew what we were going into, uh, before we went because we didn't go on the first night, um, We went the second day on Saturday, and so I knew what we were facing. And I just kind of rolled with it, and I had a really good time. It was fun seeing people dressing up as whatever characters and whatnot.

Some of it was entertaining, not for the fact of what they were dressed up as, just seeing their interpretations of things, I guess. That means here's a really good outfit. Now, how do I remove the area that covers the boobs? Right. I mean, there is a lot of boobs to be seen, so I didn't know it was that kind of convention, but hey, whatever.

I mean, if that's what. They're all that kind of convention. I mean, if that's what floats your boat, you know, that's fine. But I mean, I had a really good time. It was really fun being able to be part of a crowd that Um, I felt like everybody was just really nice.

Like, yeah, people have their bitchy moments that, I mean, you know, that's life, but. That's what I was actually telling somebody last night when we were, we went to go get food and they were talking about like how they had thought people weren't in a good mood. I was like, truthfully, like. Compared to the people in the real world, like, everybody there was kind of in, like, several times, it's just, like, with that many people crammed into a space, like, sometimes, especially in different settings with, like, real people in the world, they would get all uptight and bitchy and, like, just get upset with whatever. there are so many times when you just kind of bump into somebody, like, you know, it just happens when there's that many people jammed together, and I'd be like, oh, sorry, and, like, in the real world, people just get, oh, watch where you're going, and get all pissed off, and, like, so many people are like, oh, man, don't worry about it, you know, they're just, like, a lot of people were really kind of easygoing this weekend, and there's a guy earlier, just today, that I was just like, oh, we were both just sort of, like, looking at something, and almost ran into each other, and he's like, Oh, don't worry about me, I'm just wandering around I was like, hey, me too Everybody that I kept running into Almost literally were really relaxed So I kind of appreciated that That in this convention crowd Specifically this horror crowd That there's a good attitude with people More so than you would expect For these hardcore gore fans Most of them are kind of nice people I've kind of known that for years But it's good to see it in.

Action again Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know why I would expect it to be any different because it's like any friends that I have that that's their scene. I mean, they're they're all really nice, but it was just I just thought that was really neat. It was just it's nice to be around nice people. So, yeah, it was surprising with that many people. Sometimes that could change that attitude.

But now everybody everybody's in pretty good spirits this weekend, as far as I could tell. And as much fun as all that was, it all still kind of pales in comparison to the other thing we got to do. Yeah, just hanging out with Dee Schneider and Adam Green was pretty damned amazing. Probably one of the high points of my life. Not just the weekend, my life.

I can die now, and I feel like I've accomplished everything I need to. I can't argue that. They're pretty amazing. So, yeah, I think we should go ahead and just get into that. We do sit down with rock star extraordinaire, Mr.

D. Snyder, and director of a lot. He's really got an interesting take on stuff, too. I always liked him just as a guy, and I've seen a good amount of his work as a director, and he's got a really good take on it. But I think even more than that, he's got a really interesting take on the business and what he wants to do in the business.

So yeah, I think Adam Green is, is really a fun guy to see his work, but even more interesting just to sit down and. Talk to him. So I think we will do that right now. And these actually pick up on the side. It's got that tape.

Yeah. Try that. Yeah. I know you don't know anything about microphones. Actually, I'm terrible because I always wind up like, yeah, well, yeah, mouthing it.

Well, that's what's funny. Back up the mic. Back up the mic. There's so many people that still are like, wait, you can use these performances. We are here with Adam and Dee, and I guess you're here sort of promoting Holliston.

We can start with that. It is, for people who aren't familiar with it, a real place, and you were spawned there. Yes, I grew up there. I guess, what was it that made you want to tell that story? Well, I mean, the show is really my story.

I mean, it's about the struggle of trying to become a horror filmmaker and about that time in your life right out of college when nothing's working out like it was supposed to, which that's the part that they don't really tell you. It's like, oh, if you go to college and you get a degree, then you get a job, then you get married. But they don't tell you how much it sucks in between all that when your friends are all getting married and getting jobs. Life sucks. I can go along with that.

But if you can laugh at it, then you can get through it. And that's really what the show is about. And originally, there were so many different names for this over the years. And it was actually somebody in the marketing department at FearNet who said, well, why don't we just name it after that fictitious town that you said it in? And Joe Lynch was like, oh, it's a real, like, yeah, let's do that.

And so now to all those teachers who said I would never make it. Like, now they have to know about it because the show is called Halston. So really, this is not even about a show. It's just about redemption. That was really, it's the only reason I did this.

Revenge. Yes, revenge. I totally get that. So I guess really it was Coffee and Donuts that was sort of the test version of this? Yeah, that was the first movie I ever tried to make when I got a job making bad cable commercials.

I stole their equipment and made a feature called Coffee and Donuts. Who would advise you to steal the equipment? This guy is right here. He's been my guardian angel and mentor and idol my whole life. You said you had stolen the equipment and you were stopping stealing it.

I just said, continue to steal it. I just advised you. His exact words were actually so... Because I got caught borrowing and stealing the equipment and I thought I was going to lose my job. And he said, do you want to make cable commercials forever?

Do you want to make movies? I said, I want to make movies. He said. We could get back in there and steal the fucking aquarium. So, yeah, but I don't even remember what the question was.

Oh, yeah, Coffee and Donuts. It really does mirror the show. Is there actually a Coffee and Donuts visual? DVD? Yes.

Because we didn't really know what we were doing, we used, like, Aerosmith songs. We used, like, just the Righteous Brothers. Every. frame of that movie has caught like three different copyright infringements on it we were just trying to make a movie and then um disney touchstone ended up buying it um to turn into a tv series which was still called coffee and donuts which i wrote for upn um who tried to turn it into a urban like i'm the only one who didn't see that coming by the way everyone's like you know this isn't gonna work right i'm like what do you mean it's upn um but when they became the, uh, the WB or the CW. The title needed to be changed. Yeah.

You are so UPN. I don't know what you're talking about. I know. I know. So, but most people do think, you know, urban stuff when they look at me, you know, pretty, uh.

Urban, urban, urban, or lame one of the other. Well, you, you mentioned him inspiring you, I guess. How did you come into contact with the, at some point? Uh, It is such a long story, but if you look up on YouTube or on my site, Ariescope.com, and look up A Twisted Tale, there was a special feature that came with the Hatchet DVD that is the two of us telling that story in eight minutes. But basically, D was my idol ever since I first heard A Twisted Sister record.

The message that I got from it was that you can't let anybody tell you no or that you can't do something. And through my whole life, that inspired me. And then one day, I ended up uh, meeting him at a show because I got there very early and I had this letter that I was going to throw on the stage and he actually received the letter and read it and, um, and responded. And, and ever since it's been, it's a, it's a crazy story, you know, cause it's like, you know, you'll meet people you idolize or celebrities and nine out of 10 times you're, it's just, they live up to it, but not like this. It's not just like, Oh yeah, he was a nice guy.

I mean, it's like our families are very tight at this point. Like, I mean, he married my wife and I, His son became my assistant, who I mentored into filmmaking, who has a short film that premieres at the Tribeca Film Festival in two weeks. It's a crazy, crazy story. It's really involved, and I didn't even realize what was going on. He kept running into me at crucial moments in his career at different events, and.

Just Oh, I would have like a heavy metal Yoda or something. And, uh, and I've apparently just gave the right words of inspiration, which is just my nature. You know, when I see someone who's giving up to say, to be the cheerleader and then, uh, I didn't even realize this, you know, these chance meetings. Kept happening multiple times. And, um, and then one day I get an email that I nearly, deleted because I didn't recognize.

The address, but it said, hello again. And I said, again? I said, it was almost a swear. I was like, let me just read it. And it was this whole letter about having met all these times and how I had just cheered him on sort of unwittingly through these tough times.

And now Hatchet was at Tribeca. And he said, and you sent me a letter a long time ago. And I said that, he's saying that, you know, one day we'll be at some big movie premiere and, and we'll, I'll see you at the after party or whatever. And he says, I just wanted to invite you, but I don't. And I picked up the phone.

I said, so where's the party? And he came. And that was the first time we met. I just showed up and he met me at the red carpet. My family came out and we sat together and, uh, and saw the movie and went to the party after.

And, uh, We've been friends ever since. But it was the craziest way to have your first red carpet because I'm standing there and I'm like, nobody wants to talk to me whatsoever. Then all of a sudden he shows up and VH1 and everybody's running over there and it was like, I'm just. I think we went from like, hello. And then we've just walked away, caught me together doing interviews.

And then, and then, you know, he did. All the interviews. They're like, so tell us about hatching. He's like, cause I couldn't speak. I'm just smiling.

I'm like, this is amazing. One of the. Important things though, that I always want to get across when we tell this story though, is that what he was talking about, there were all these like chance meetings and that's really what they were. Like there were just times when we would just cross paths. It wasn't, um, relentlessly writing to a celebrity on Facebook or stalking them or sending them letters or doing like it just, we would just bump, we just would cross paths and it was always at the right time.

And it was a very organic way to do it. But there's a lot of people who hear this story who then start now stalking me with stuff. And it's like, well, just you're my D Snyder. I'm like, okay, a, I'm not that cool. B I like, we don't have a 25 year relationship of serendipitously like running into each other.

Like you just roll me a letter, man. It's very different. Like, and I can't do anything for you. So, yeah. And it's that, it's those, just the way this has happened that has me doing Holliston.

Because when he first approached me to be Lance Rocket in the show, and I said yes, and he just, it just started an endless. Stream of apologies. For how low budget this is and how nickel and dime and the alien air conditioning this season for a certain amount of hours. And then he blew it in the first week and they left the air conditioning on so we had no AC. So he just apologized.

And one day I said, dude, stop apologizing. This is supposed to be. I'm here because... I think that I'm supposed to be here. It's like that weird moment with Richard Dreyfuss and we're supposed to be here.

It's just, I. See all these things happen and how we all have our chance meetings and we've come to this point. So I am supposed to be here. And it's not just for me. Joe Lynch, who also stars in the show, Joe's father was also a friend of these.

Yeah, I was friends with Joe's dad, who was a customer, he passed away. a custom car guy, and he worked on my cars, and we became really good friends. He was always telling me about his son Joe, who was making videos, and Joe, and Joe, and Joe, and Joe. And I knew the whole family before I knew Joe, which was frustrating to Joe, since he was the actual Twisted fan. So I finally one day meet Joe. At a horror convention, another competing horror convention, Fangoria, I think, and he said, I'm Joe Lynch.

And I was like, holy crap. So again, just how does that happen? So it really is meant to be, and like he said, my sons work with him, Cody. And now Cody's first short has been accepted to Tribeca, and we're going to his premiere. So it's actually pretty wonderful, actually, the way things have happened.

I love the ride. It's great. Definitely. I'm assuming you've always been interested in horror, but I guess what made you want to sort of cross into it from the performing? Was it Strangeland, or before that, did you really want to get into it?

You know, I was a big horror fan, of course. And Strangeland, you know, I got into writing screenplays and trying to learn that process from doing the rock videos. And I wrote Strangeland out of frustration at the time. And it was late 80s, early 90s, when just like the horror world was just so pathetic with our biggest villains and by biggest villains. Chucky and the leprechaun.

And I remember screaming at the TV. Going, step on him! It's a leprechaun! Come on! I mean, what is going on here?

I'm watching a leprechaun. And I'm like, leprechaun! And my kid was actually afraid. It was Cody. He said, man up!

It's a leprechaun. I'll make you afraid. Go to sleep. I'll come to your room in the middle of the night. So anyway, and it was just, you know, again, just writing and just a love for horror and just wanting to just get into the trenches and start doing it.

And then the connection became stronger and stronger and started doing a horror radio show and, you know, it goes from there. Well, then I guess. once you set up the. Framework of the show, where you, I mean, again, he was apologizing, but you were okay with working in like a very, it's working to be like a standard sitcom format. So it's, I guess it was okay crossing over into that. Well, I just, you know, I like doing new and challenging things.

And if it's new and challenging, it intrigues me. I'll put up with anything. But don't treat me with respect at a rock show. We've got a problem. So I'll be like, hey, whatever we've got to do, man, at the rock show.

I'm like, where is my catering? I can't possibly go on without the M &. M' s. Not the Redwoods. What did I tell you?

So it just was new. I did Broadway for a few months, and I'm just so intrigued by a new challenge. And so that was just fun to do a sitcom. My only regret is, can. I say that?

We really never get a chance to do it in traditional form. Well, his scenes don't. My scenes and Dave's too. And Dave's. Because just scheduling wise, we basically shoot all of these scenes in like a two, three day period, which is...

Really intense because it's all these very extravagant wardrobe changes and stuff. And Suzette, his wife, did his hair and makeup this year in his wardrobe. And, I mean, it's just the most extravagant, craziest outfits. Sometimes upwards of like three hours just to get them into the stuff. And then we shoot for 15 minutes and.

Then he's out. Oh, I love the one where I walked out on the set and I go, and he goes, we're out of time, dude. It took three hours to get ready. That was the moment. I just wanted to go, hey, we're out of time.

And I'm like, what? And then the show ends. It's one of the funniest. Because I wasn't in the show. It's one of the funniest gags.

It's like what happens is I start, because we break the fourth wall a lot on the show. So there's all these outtakes because I keep laughing through the scene and I'm destroying it. And then he comes out in the most extravagant costume you've ever seen. And we go, oh, sorry, the show's over. So that was it.

I just walk out. And then we go, okay, now get changed. We have to do the next one. I was like, that's what it was like. But the point is because of they don't have the money to pay me and Dave so we could say we don't have to work.

We have to work. We do what we do. We don't get a chance to do that. I can't wait for the time to do traditional sitcoms, sit at the table, do a read together, shoot it chronologically, and do a real sitcom. Unfortunately, I always have to shoot my scenes and Dave's scenes out in like a week, and then we take off and we go back to whatever else we do.

And then the rest of the stuff is shot with a small audience, but that's the only way that we know the timing on the jokes is by hearing when people laugh. And then we sweeten that and fill that in later. But we're actually one of the only shows that still has any type of live audience. Because like Big Bang and How I Met Your Mother, they don't have an audience at all. Which is crazy because I don't know if you've ever looked it up.

If you look up those shows on YouTube, there's a version of Big Bang Theory without the laugh track. It is amazing. I mean, because it's just like I'm wearing pants. Silence for like 10 seconds and then so am I. And it's like, oh my God, like this isn't funny at all.

Like, um, so at least ours without the laugh track is still funny. Um, but yeah, it's been, you know, we did a sitcom for horror fans and a lot of horror fans don't watch sitcoms. So we were, I was like, are they going to hang with this? Are they going to get it? And they did.

And they did in, um, in a huge way really quickly, which was, um, really overwhelming because we were expecting the worst. We were like, all right, this is so different that everyone's just going to hate it. And they didn't. And you get a few comments of like, what's with the laugh track? Because they've never seen a show with a laugh track before.

But even then, they still, you know, you watch a couple of them, you get into it. And this season is just incredible. Really lowered the bar. I think it works because you, like, I think everybody identifies with you guys in particular because you guys are very, like, normal horror geeks you know and you that's the sad part is I was like I was thinking I need to do a web series I was like I think you guys already did it like I was like you're wearing my outfits every episode it's sad I was like. Yeah I'll be stealing my show.

It's you know I think you see it in music a lot like a band will come along that they just like people identify with what they're saying or what they're doing and it's like all you can do is be you and that's all this is is written for it's all my personal stories and even the characters like lance rocket like what's really funny about it is you have Dee Snider playing a guy that 20 years ago, there were people that thought that that's what he was really like. And he was never like that. But I had a job to make ends meet when I was struggling at the Rainbow Bar and Grill, which is this like heavy metal hangout on the Sunset Strip. And the people that still go there, like every Friday and Saturday night, they are Lance Rocket.

Like they still think it's coming back. It's like, you know, they're talking about how, like, Trickster's going to tour again and, like, they're probably going to sell out everywhere. It's like, no, they're not, man. It's not happening. But they come in the leather pants and the makeup and the whole thing.

And that was really where I got the idea for having this sort of delusional boss. But, like, this season, Lance, because we're facing the cable station being shut down, starts focusing on a more realistic career for himself. So he starts writing original Van Halen songs. As opposed to just doing Van Halen covers. Yeah.

Yeah. But we actually do a song in the season finale. He unleashes his first song called Love It Down Your Throat. a music video for it that's going to come out and everything. And his son, Cody, directed the music video. Which he's not so sure he wants credit for.

He wants credit to Lance Rocket. Yes. He said, I'm going to continue. Because it's supposed to be bad. And as any filmmaker, you don't go and you're trying to make a good movie, not a bad movie.

And Cody's got already some award-winning rock videos that he's done for bands like Motionless and White. videos of the year in Revolver and Kerrang. So he's like, because we live in the same house. So he called me and he goes, I can't. I have a problem with this. And he's like, it's too good.

Throw in some more. It's too good. He's like, I can't put my name on this. There was a shot where the drummer tried to spin his sticks and dropped it and had to stop and go pick it up. Put that in.

He's like, oh, God. My microphone cord got caught in my chiffon. And I'm like trying to get untangled. Leave it, leave it, he's saying. But Cody had the brilliant idea that Lance would do stuff that only he thinks is cool.

Like it's a song called Love It Down Your Throat. He's like, but he'd have a samurai sword. I'm like. Why? He's like, why not?

And he'd fight a tiger at one point and he would just be kicking down doors because it's cool and all that's in there. Which is, I'm actually, I'm reading, you read the book? Did you say you read? They pointed that out, that people would just have things, say, oh, I want to do this. I want to be, Bon Jovi, there's a book called I Want My MTV.

I want to just fly across the stage. Okay. Or we want a lion. I want a tiger in there. And people, that's what they do, except when I want a tiger, it's a stuffed tiger.

And then I fight it. I fight it and win. With a lot of those little videos. I think at one point, I opened up fucking. Episode three.

Those are the words. Fuck the tiger. Fuck the tiger. There's a lot of those old videos that there's weird stuff going on. You're like, what inspired this?

So, yeah, that's... Yeah, it's about a video from last in line with everybody, like, getting, like, cut and, like, green stuff spewing everywhere. Like, what was that? Well, the real question is, when is Diver Down going on tour? You know, I hope someday, like what Dee was just saying, that, like, there is the show...

Because it is growing, and it's growing very fast. And it would be great to get to the point that we can do it in a traditional way where everybody... can be there for the whole run of the show and shoot it in front of an audience each week, like, like you're supposed to do and not have to sort of shoot it like a feature film the way we do it. Cause I mean, as much as it is low budget, it's not that low budget. I mean like the show looks just as good as anything else on a network. And, um, and so we're just, we're really careful with how we do it so that we can't have all the money on the screen.

But if that could happen, it's. Like, and no wasting money on AC or, So we look a little glistening. Yeah. But you know, there's like, there's always that dream of like, you know, just one time only at like, you know, something like a San Diego comic con or whatever. And cause I mean like between like Guar and, and then D and then Corey, who's like amazing country singer too.

But like just one time to have everybody singing on stage together in some way. But like last night we all went to dinner and this is the first time that the entire, all six of us are in the same place at the same time. It never happens because D comes in for his stuff and then he's gone and then the new set is up and then Odorous is there and then he's gone. And so we've never actually sat and read a script together before ever. So today at 5 we're going to do that for the first time.

But I felt like my mom last night. Like whenever the family gets together, my mom, you know, she just sits back and watches because she's so happy to have everybody in one place. It was a TGI Friday, which was ironic. Because it was Friday. It was Friday.

And we were really thankful. Thank God. Thank God it was Friday. Thank God it was Friday. I'm just imagining the table next to you.

No, they were all freaking out. See, at least for Dave, you know, Odorous, unless he's in that costume, nobody. Knows what he looks like. That's what I was going to say. I was hoping he was wearing the costume for Friday.

But he's the most recognizable face ever, so there's no hiding that. But no, everybody was cool with the conversations. Because Corey's English is pregnant right now and people are talking about eating babies and placentas and like... Nursing. Nursing.

It was. Area 51. World War II. It was all over the place. Stalingrad.

Stalingrad. 70th anniversary of Stalingrad which Dave is going to for some reason for his birthday. Yeah. Why not? But being able to sit back and watch this because these are all my favorite people from all these different facets of my life and of course...

You're always hoping your friends will get along with each other and like each other as much as you do. And the fact that it clicked so instantly with everybody was just great. And then Dave, especially from GWAR, like, you know, he's got to be Dave from GWAR, but he's a huge Twisted fan, a huge D fan. And it's all he ever says is just like, I can't believe I'm on a show with D. And he's so nice.

He's so great. It's just awesome. Did you already have the GWAR connection, or did you have to reach out to him? I had to reach out to him, but from the conception of the show, there was always the alien in my closet. And as a GWAR fan since I was 14, I was always like, wouldn't it be great to get it?

But in my 14-year-old mind, I'm like, we could never. ever get him. That guy is so. It's like me getting Niedermeyer for the video. Yes, that's it. When I went, I said, what.

Do you see as the dad? Well, someone like the guy who plays Niedermeyer, like that kind of guy. And our doctor goes, why don't we get him? What is he doing? We're going to cure for cancer?

Because it works inside the whole house. So I was like. Really? It was like $ 1, 000. Which is what we paid for Dave.

Yeah. When I met with him, I set it up through Metal Blade. I went backstage to one of their shows. I sat down with him. And he's just like, so.

What is this? I'm like, well, it's a sitcom. He's like, wait, stop. You want Odorous on a sitcom. I'm like, yeah.

He's like, all right. I'm like, done. That was it. Five seconds. And I'm like, well, the money's not.

I don't care. He's like, I wanted to use his footage. I saw his interview as Odorous when we were doing the EPK interview. Did you use his in anything? That was something.

So he goes, so this kid comes in and he comes in and he says, I'm doing a show. And I said, fine, okay. And a year later he comes in, it's getting there, we're getting there. I said, fine. And then one year he rolls in with this big fat record exec so I know it's serious.

He comes from a big fat record executive so I know on that record he's a. Movie executive I know he's serious every time he opens his mouth it's Peter Park it's gonna. Be a problem classics every time well I guess to cross over a little I mean you I guess really broke through with Hatchet again assuming you watched a lot of slashers growing up what was it that made you want to do Hatchet and to try to do it your. Way Um, I'm actually, you know, I like the slashers because, you know, I grew up in the heyday of Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street and all that stuff. But for me, it was really just as a horror fan, I was so disenchanted with what I was getting because, you know, in the 90s, we had Scream, which was a genius movie.

But then all the knockoffs of the teen whodunits and there was no more gore. There was no more monster. There was no more fantasy. And then it got to the point that there was no more fun. because it was either a remake or a torture movie, and it was all about how mean-spirited and depraved you can be. And those movies were all actually ripping him off, because Strangeland was the first movie that was a torture movie.

And so I just wanted to make a movie that was fun again. And so I had a lot of trouble, though, with that script, because people would read it, and they're laughing, and then all of a sudden it's... intensely gory and scary and they're like well what wait it's got to be one or the other like nobody's gonna and they are right to some extent like horror comedy it never crosses over at the box office so I'm very fortunate that like worldwide the movie has struck such a great audience and then now the third one's gonna come out in two months I never would have thought I just wanted to make the movie I wanted to see and then hope that it proved that I was competent enough to make a movie and then you know lead to what I wanted to do next.

And the fact that it's now a franchise is, it's incredible. Like just seeing people at these conventions with their own Victor Crowley costumes. And, um, but it's, you know, like I was saying before about a show that just, it just speaks to people like they, they identify with it. And I think a lot of people felt the same way I did at that point. So when Hatchet came out, they, they felt like it was for them because it did remind them of why they got into this in the first place.

But, when I got into horror, it wasn't to see women get brutally raped realistically for no reason or strapped to a chair and tortured. And, um, there's, you know, there's certain things and it's, it's always sucks. Cause it's like, I'm the guy made hatchet. And so there's all these people that are so let down when they meet me, they're like, wait, you, you're the guy, like they're expecting somebody much cooler. And, but I won't ever have a scene with a woman getting raped.

I won't have animal abuse in a movie. I won't, there's just certain things I just won't do. Um, Now, in a movie like Irreversible or whatever, yes, you have to have an intense rape scene because like it's that's a drama and it all hinges on that but in a slasher movie if you are going there it's because you're a fucking terrible filmmaker and you're just trying to push whatever buttons you can to try to get some sort of reaction so every time I see one of those movies where someone's like dude I just made a movie where we fucked a baby and sewed people's lips to their assholes and ate shit I'm like you're awesome man go fuck yourself yeah. Are you okay with handing it off to somebody else, since it was so personal to begin with?

I was okay handing it off at first, because I was ready to hand it off. Like, I can't keep making hatchet movies forever, but I did want to see it go on. And I wrote it, I produced it, I cast it, it was all my crew, it was all the same people. I mean, it was kind of like being the ultimate puppet master, because there was nothing anybody could do without me okaying it. I still had a final cut on the movie, so... it was a very safe way to pass off.

It wasn't like I had to just see what happened, what somebody else did. And ultimately ended up being a lot more involved than I ever thought I was going to have to be. Um, but ultimately I do think that, um, BJ and the crew and everybody did a very good job in the movie. It's really cool. I mean, it looks a lot bigger than the other two because we just were able to put money in the right places.

And, um, But you never know what the fans are going to think. My son Cody is one of the co-stars in the movie. And he steals the movie. The same one who he mentored and is a director and a writer. And he got him because he is a character.

So he told Cody, I want you to be in the movie. And Cody went down and laid in the dirt in the swamp. And he learned so much because he's like, I'm not an actor. I'm like, you've just got to be you. And I'm like, but if you want to be a really good director, act.

And watch and see what it's like on this side of it. and watch, and, like, watch the director, and see what he does, and then each night, I'm like, so what did you learn that you like, what did you learn that you don't do, and, like, um, he was just, he's, he's like a sith, and he's this weird ADD type kid, who's, like, all energetic, and you can't control, but he's always listening, and paying, he's very, very smart, which is, which is great, um, but yes, I passed it off, and, um, movie's done, and, uh, so far, the people we screened it for, their reactions have been great, and I think the fans will like it, and, I never know until like two years later. People are like, well, which one's your favorite out of them?

I don't know. I'm still partial to two, to part two, but we'll see. Partial to Danielle. We did have her on. She's pretty awesome.

Yes, and she's back again in three. She's amazing. Well, to bounce back to a different movie story, you're in one of the best movies. Ever made, Pee Wee's Big Adventure. How does that happen?

Again, a meeting of great minds and fans. You and Paul Reuben. I'm surprised to be speaking about this. I'm all over the map. No, that's okay.

That's okay. Actually, I was a big Pee Wee fan. Pee Wee was not a kid's guy. We started out as college and adult weirdo comedy. And we met at an MTV New Year's party backstage.

We were both making an appearance and it turned out it was like a mutual admiration thing. I was like, I love your stuff. Love your stuff. And then... That was in January.

And cut to, I guess, March. And people reach out to us and say, Pee Wee's doing a movie. It turned out Tim Burton, who nobody knew Tim was. Nobody knew who he was. Just a weird dude.

And wants to know if you'll be in it. And I said, oh, man, absolutely. No problem. And it was like we were doing Five Nights with Iron Maiden at the Long Beach Arena. Sold out.

Five nights. So we were in town. It worked out. I said, so you guys are shooting a rock video and Pee Wee comes through, blah, blah, blah. And I said, and what song are we doing?

We're not going to take it? He goes, no. I said, I want a rock. And he goes, no. He goes, Burn in Hell.

I'm like, yeah. Pee Wee is cool. Burn in Hell. Even more reason for me to like, because Burn in Hell is one of the best songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But nobody lives like that. Okay, we're not going to take it. No, no, man. Burn in Hell. Like, awesome.

Let's do that. So, uh, And then, you know, but it's a little Pee-wee situation. So Pee-wee, when I met him, you know, backstage, you know, hey, man, what's going on? Yada, yada, yada. I'm going out there.

Hey, how you doing, guys? Right? So then I see Pee-wee on the movie set, you know, a few months later. Still hasn't blown up like big. And we're just hanging out talking.

He's like, yeah, what's going on? Oh, okay, okay, okay. You know, and he goes out. So they cut to. A year from then.

Now he's bigger than Jesus. So I was like, hey, Pee-wee. I said, hey, I like the Pee-wee. In our video. Mr.

Rubens needs time to transform into the Pee-wee character. I'm like, what? He says, yes, this is a process that he goes through. I said, oh, you got it. And we're trying to get all the red M & Ms out.

Mr. Rubens. So we didn't have Mr. Rubens in the video because there wasn't enough time for him to transform into the character. He was spoken a joint and thrown a switch one year earlier.

Now he has to transform. The artist that is peewee. End scene. Uh, well, I guess just to, to bring it back around and have you guys plug the show, do, do you want to, should we push FearNet or, or where's the best way for people to go find it? Um, well, the show airs on FearNet on Tuesday nights at 10 o'clock.

The season premieres June 4th. Um, and then, uh, at least last season, and it should be the same for this season, the show usually shows up on iTunes and Hulu and other places like that. Um, usually within about 24 hours after it airs. So, uh, Yeah, so there's really no excuse to not see it. There's definitely a way.

For us to watch it. Unless you're like a total loser. Yeah, even if you don't get the FearNet network, you can watch it. But if you don't get FearNet, you can also demand it from your cable provider. And I was always skeptical on that.

I didn't believe that that worked. But last season, the fans got... I mean, just in the month that the show premiered, there was like six new cities that started carrying it simply because the fans kept asking for it. So it does work if you ask for it. I think the number is 877...

I don't know the number. But, yeah. 877 something. Google it. 5309.

8675. Ask Virginia. There's a phone number with fears in it. Fear 247. Fuck it.

Just, yeah. Google it. But, yeah. You can watch it on Fearnet or you can watch it on iTunes or Hulu. And if you do watch it and you like it, please, please tell everybody you know about it.

If you don't like it, keep your mouth shut. It's, again, I mean, for. movie fans in general, specifically for horror fans. It's funny that it's a TV show and a very sitcom based thing, but it, it crosses over so easily. I mean, you guys are such movie geeks that it's constant references and your cutaway scenes that are just straight out of other movies. And it's, it's, it's a really good tie in that I think for a TV show really works well for movie fans.

If I say to people, it's like Spinal Tap in that, in that if anybody can watch Spinal Tap and enjoy it, but if you're a heavy metal guy or girl, you get that much more out of it. You don't have to be a horror fan to watch Holliston. You can just enjoy it as a situation comedy, and it's. A great show. But if you're a horror geek, even better, because it's all this inside stuff for you, which is great.

Definitely. Well, I think that was it. Thank you for being here with us today. Thank you for having us. Thank you.

Our pleasure. Yes. Thank you. You can hear the thunder long before the storm. But you can't hear the lion when he stalks his prey.

He's moving like. A shadow, creeping upon you. And like a siren's call, he's going to have his way. Don't make us stand just up. Outside If you don't have what it takes Don't try to play, you'll lose your state Remember this at least It's the nature.

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Because it's like they're steampunk. Is steampunk really wood? I thought it was more of a brass thing. Well, you got to work the wood in to hold the brass together. These are the fancy high-end steampunk versions with a mic built in, mind you.

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These are actually really good. So they are professional quality earbuds, mind you. And, you know, noise reducing, compatible with your iPods and most phones, unless you have a dumb phone. You should really get a smartphone, not a dumb phone, right? So anyway, the basic rundown here, if you need yourself some earbuds, tweakedaudio.com.

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Booby bouncing from the running. That monkey was Benson. He had sex with Kim Cattrall. Open your mouth so I can fill the void. Rats are gross.

Far eastern yeti have smaller feet than. So, like, what are. We supposed to learn from that? You're like, shit, this is the one with the really fat guy. Yeah.

Damn it. Okay. They gave each other a Dutch rudder. It was fine. Apparently you've never been to makeitandy.com.

Those are flaps, not doors. Woody. Anyway. Who's Woody? It's a wiker with a booty.

It looks like Mike's jerking it over there. I'm going to class it up now. After that smut. Shows are most popular by the way they smell. You're a real black hole right now.

He sure is. I'm banging. The horror of unreleased Beach Boys songs. There you go. Are you referring to my lady right now?

Nope. Hey, this is Danielle Harris. So I am now maybe quite possibly one of the newest members of Movie Meltdown. If I can never actually get to the movies. But I'll review some old 80s rom-coms for you.

See ya. It had to be you. It had to be you. I wandered around and finally found the somebody who. Could make me be true, could make me.

Be It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now, on with the show. And it's always to be with all you lovely little boys and girls.

Make yourself comfortable. My place is so divine. Don't you think I'm wonderful? Stay ashore on my time. Stay away.

So, okay, you were hanging out with Dee Snider. How awesome. I mean, it was just really great. It was funny sitting there and, like, I didn't really think about it beforehand, but, like, how much, I don't know, he had kind of a recurring presence. I mean, not literally because, obviously, I don't hang out with Dee Snider.

Like Adam. Right. He didn't end up in your life like. He did with Adam. Right.

But like I was thinking about it and I'm just like, you know, there are just so many times in my life where, you know, we were we were talking about, you know, Pee Wee's Big Adventure. And I watched that so much when I was a kid. And I just remember seeing, you know, Twisted Sister like on different things or like hearing music and and just thinking of how cool it was. And it was just really cool being able to sit there and see one of my heroes, you know. And not just that, but, like, just hang out and talk to him.

And, I don't know, he's just a really cool guy. He is. Like, again, looking at, you know, you could talk to a lot of, and they even in the weekend made fun of a lot of him being compared to a lot of other 80s hair band kind of rock stars. And, you know, you can lump all those guys in together. But, like, when I think back and think about...

The difference between him, I mean, the fact that Dee Snider went and, like, sat down in front of the Senate and, like, told them why what they were trying to do was wrong. Why, you know, censoring music and art in general is wrong. Why the specifics. And with that... tipper gore sitting in the room was calling her out for specific quotes that she had made about their band about music you know the specific genre of music and like she and just pointing out how wrong she was and doing it very well spoken and doing it in and and going up there and still kind of dressed in his jeans and metal t-shirt but like he sat down and went well you know first of all i'm a parent and as a parent i think it's my responsibility so like watching him like be so level-headed and so smart about, you know, trying to defend all of us, you know, it's like the music in general, but like all of our freedom to like, listen to what we want and record what we want.

And that, that is amazing to me when I look back on that. So it's like, that's one of those things, had we had time, I could have sat there and talked to him about that kind of stuff for like hours probably. But yeah, they, they had to get in there and do the stuff for the, for their show this weekend. So yeah. That in and of itself was amazing.

And then we can get into that show because afterwards, after they finished that later on in the day, they did a live, like a table reading of a, an episode. And it's an original episode of Holliston that they made specifically for this weekend. And, um, that was probably one of the best things I've ever seen at a convention. Like again, so often it's like I, and maybe it's just cause I go to so many of them at this point, but just, standing in line to see somebody sign their name on a picture is no you know I'm bored with that now and even like when people come out and like do a Q & A like a lot of times they're so boring like even if it's somebody I'm interested in sometimes they're just so lackluster and it might be a huge room and you're so far away from them but like this became an actual performance and like that's something you don't see at these kind of things is somebody actually like putting on a show and like doing like live and making it interactive with the audience and like involving members of the audience on occasion and bringing in special guests and it was like it was probably one of the best things I've seen it definitely is like I'm glad we came to the convention this weekend just because I saw that like awesome enough that we worked in an entire interview but like even if that didn't happen if I would have just gotten to see them do that live performance it sort of makes me appreciate the TV show so much more now.

Well, and I feel like that is. I feel like Adam can get a lot of credit for that because he even talks about, like, how he is us. Like, he is one of those horror geeks that, you know, stands in line and goes and gets autographs. I mean, not so much now, but, like, back in the day before he became this incredible director and actor and writer and all these things. Like, that was him, you know, standing in line.

And so. you know, I feel like he has more of a passion to be able to bring something entertaining and something awesome to all the fans instead of, you know, just having people wait in line to, to meet him and not even interacting with anybody. So it was, it was just really cool to be able to go in there and sit down and watch them do something that, you know, watch them have fun. And, you know, in the, in the process, it was entertaining for us to do, but I, I feel like that it was very intentional. I feel like, you know, he made the decision to do that. And, I feel like a lot of that probably has something to do with the influence that Dee has on his life, too, because, you know, Dee's an entertainer.

Like, that's what he does. And so I feel like they just, you know, they were very intentional about it, and that's what they wanted to do. So I just think that's really, really cool of them. He does want to work with that element. Like, he likes sort of blurring that line because, I mean, you're casting.

Like, he's a movie director, right? He's now sort of spilling over into TV in a very movie geek way, but he could have cast whoever he wanted, I guess, in those roles, and he bothers to work in two really recognizable rock stars in the middle of his show about horror movies. Granted, they have a lot of horror-themed stuff going on, too. It makes sense, but he could have just cast anybody in those roles. Now, granted, it also brings people in that are just fans of Either Gwar or, you know, Twisted Sister.

But I think it's just he likes that aspect to the performance aspect. He really does like bringing in people that are characters, you know. They're, like, on stage. They really go out of their way to get attention and, you know, put. On a good show.

And, like, he knows that they're going to bring that to the role. So I think he does have that, like, you know, rockstar tie-in that he kind of likes adding that to what they're doing. But yeah, I will give him credit that like, he was so down to earth, you know, he really does still come off like one of us, you know, standing there with him. I was like, yeah, it's like, this is, this is just a guy that, you know, if I didn't know any better would be in line next to me waiting to get something signed. Like he's very down to earth and was very cool.

Just kind of hanging out even after we were done talking to us about what, you know, how things have turned out for him and how he's ended up where he is now. And it's, yeah, I think he appreciates where he's, where he's turned up in his career and, and all the cool stuff that's happened to him along the way and kind of likes showcasing that. And especially on the show, I, I, Again, I think it is such a good tie-in show for movie geeks that everybody who hasn't checked it out, it's definitely worth looking into. It has a weird take on the sitcom thing. It's like, again, if you gave a movie geek a camera and went, here, what if you had to make a TV sitcom?

And that's what it does. It works in all these very cliche moments of the standard, especially 80s era sitcoms. when they became very formulaic and silly and like it plays on all those, but it's kind of doing it very knowingly. So it makes it a little funnier to me. I don't know. I, I think the fact that it's very self-aware and as he said, even breaks the fourth wall sometimes of how self-aware it is that like it makes it all a joke and it makes it all okay that they know how silly they're being and how it's okay to bring in guest stars because really we just want to see him bring in these guest stars because it's, you know, again, people he's worked with now that, it makes it fun it makes it like this big horror community that you know everybody sort of gets worked into the show at some point so i i think it's definitely a lot of fun and and a good tie-in for movie geeks so um yeah i'd say go find it watch it even if you don't like it it's it's worth checking out it's like i.

Was um telling brian it was i had an entertaining moment where um after we were finished recording Adam and Brian were standing there talking and it was like watching somebody talking to a mirror. Um, I mean, they, they do have different ways of going about things. I mean, you know, Adam is very, um, he's become very Hollywood, I guess, if you want, if you will. I mean, he, he has that certain air about him, but at the same time, like he was just talking about, you know, his passions basically. And he is so grateful that, to be able to do what he's doing and, you know, to have the response that he's had.

And so it was just a really funny thing to, to stand there and watch the two of them like talk about stuff. Cause it was like, it's the same person. It was so weird. I'll take that. There's, there's definitely a much worse people I could be prepared to.

So Adam is a very cool guy. I'll take that. Well, I think that's, uh, that's sort of rounded it out. We've had a, a good weekend and an exhausting weekend nonetheless. So we'll, I think we're going to try to get back home and probably fall asleep.

So otherwise it has been a good time. Thanks for joining us and going along on the little journey and, and definitely awesome that we got to, to hang out with D and Adam. So otherwise that about does it. We will return next week. Same time, same geek feed.

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