The Thing Called Love... for Samantha Mathis

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This episode is rated M for Misty. Yes, that's right, this is a Misty episode, so it will be laced with profanity even more than usual. If you're not comfortable with this level of profanity, perhaps this isn't the episode for you. But we have many other episodes to choose from that do not feature Misty and will probably be far less offensive. Okay, maybe.

With that having been said, on with the show. Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Misty.

And we are back with another exciting adventure. We've been on one today and Misty, you live. An exciting life anyway. What have you been up to lately? For one, I read a book.

I'm not buying it. Literate you. I'm chock full of literacy. Not pop-up. It was not a pop-up book.

There were no pictures. I read books all the time. Most of them are like Fear Street books. You do have your own book review section. Is there a song?

Should we play it right now? Yes. I can read. I'm growing up now. I can read.

Look at me. I can read. I'm really smart now. I can read. Misty's reading a book.

Yay! I can read. I can read. Anyways, I read a book, and not only did there was no pictures, no pop-ups, there was actually words, and lots of them. It stemmed from the whole controversy, like, I don't know if it was like four or five months ago.

The, God, I just forgot his name. I know Peter's in there somewhere and so is Gallagher. I guess I could go in the other room and get them. Peter Gallagher is a different actor, I believe. Peter Joseph Gallagher.

Yes, Peter Joseph Gallagher. He wrote this book called A Little White Trip, I guess, semicolon, A Night in the Pines or whatever. And he was trying to sue Joss Whedon Saying that Joss Whedon had ripped off the idea for Cabin in the Woods from his book. Saying that there was way too many similarities for it to just be a coincidence. So I don't know whatever happened to the lawsuit.

They just kind of got real big for a second, then just kind of went away. So I'm guessing nothing really happened. But I was like, okay, I'll give this shit a try. And I'm like, as soon as this whole lawsuit came out of nowhere, it's like the book went from being like $ 3 on Amazon to like $ 150 to $ 200 fucking dollars. Scam.

No shit. This dude might have just been driving up the price of his own books. And then he was selling them because he had like boxes of them in his garage. This is totally a scam. No, because he listed...

He heard about this, I guess. I don't know. I'm assuming because he opened up an Amazon account like right when this happened and was selling them at... Face value. To like shut them down.

So he was selling them for like 15 bucks when everybody else was trying to sell them for like 100, you know, $ 200. How very Suicide Girls of it. But you know, he was, you know, they were signed copies and it's not a bad deal. It's, it's, It's a good book. I'm not sure that I'd go so far as to say that Joss Whedon ripped off the entire thing.

Should I describe what happens in the book to see if it sounds anything like Cabin in the Woods to you? Do we go enough into a spoilery area to throw out a general literary spoiler warning? Yeah, I think I'm going to. All right. Spoiler alert.

Get it going. I guess I could give part of it, and then when I get to the main end and be like, major spoiler alert, don't listen if you intend to read, which who listens to this read? Who knows how to read? I know. Anyways, it's five kids that are graduating from high school.

All right. Five. And they go to this festival, and they win a prize that is a trip to this cabin that that is in the woods in the pines ah see different altogether whitewater pines exactly well and it's like one of our main things was the names because in cabin in the woods one of the jewels and dara are the girls names. Yes i don't watch them forever. Anyways in the book it's julie and dura which i'm sorry dura That's a really bad name.

Anyway, so that's one of their main things, that there's five, that the number of kids is the same, that some of the names are kind of the same. Anyway, so the kids leave for this cabin, and they get this big SUV to go up there to, and then they get coupons for this restaurant to go to, and while they're at this restaurant, one of the waiters is like, oh, you're going to this place. This cabin has a history. And he starts telling them about, apparently, several years back, there was a guy who killed his whole family. But then he disappeared into the woods.

You kids stay away from that old house. Pretty much. And they end up taking the wrong directions and they end up at a house somewhere. And it's pretty much the same story. Oh, crazy old Mr.

I can't remember the guy's name. Killed his whole family and anybody who went looking for him got murdered too. And they never found him. And he's still in the woods to this day. Or some shit like that.

Anyway, so they get to the cabin and like, Four of them go skiing because it was the whole point of the ski trip in the woods is to go skiing. Did they get stuck on a ski lift? No. And then how did they get down and wolves are involved? That never happened.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Don't be silly. That movie sucked. Let it go. Let it go.

Anyway, so four of them come back and the fifth guy's missing. Oh, no. Where'd he go? So they go looking for the SUV because they left the SUV to the one guy to take a cab. I'm like, sorry, dude, I'm not going to leave the one vehicle with you and then take a cab.

Anyway, so they find tracks out in the woods and it's down and the truck is all destroyed and they get in the truck and oh my God, it's so bloody and there's an arm. Dun, dun, dun. Do they do DNA testing to figure out whose arm it was? No, they can't make any phone calls because they're out in the woods. So none of their phones actually work.

No, signal. Signal. That's unusual these days. That never happens. Anyway, so they go back to the house and they're trying to figure out, oh my God, what are we going to do?

And then some guy shows up and then they think it's the killer. And then one by one, they all start getting killed horribly. I'll be right back. So then two of them, one of them gets killed and then another one gets killed. And then there's the police, but then the police are killed.

That's how I get to the main big spoiler. I've never seen this in any of the movies. Cops randomly get killed? That's not normal. Should I get to the spoiler?

The big spoiler alert? Double up super spoiler alert. The main character, who unlike Cabin in the Woods, is a dude this time. Because that's a big difference. In the movie, it was the chick.

I guess this is double spoiler if you also haven't seen Cabin in the Woods. The main character is a chick. It's not a big spoiler alert. There's chicks. Oh my god.

Anyways, the guy goes out and he's There's the bad guy and then there's the main good guy and then he shoots the bad guy. Oh my God. And then the director comes out of the woods and the whole thing has been the first live action, real fucking horror movie and everybody's still alive. It was all fake. Nobody died.

Does this seem more like another movie we saw from the seventies? Yeah. I was like, this doesn't turn out like cabin in the woods as much as several other. Movies that have kind of, done the same thing before. I thought it was more of a rip off of April Fool's Day.

That's 80s. I thought it was more like 86 I think. But anyway so it's like the whole thing and it's like oh well it was all just the first reality horror movie. Which again haven't there been ones recently that have done that? I don't know.

Like Turning Reality Murder or maybe that's just a lot of bad reality shows which are probably. On right now. I don't know. It does feel like that is not all that original. Assuming he wrote that, I mean, what year was it when he wrote this book?

2010 or something? It was before Cabin in the Woods. Yeah, but I'm like, not like, I mean, reality TV has been a huge thing for the last 20, 25 years now. It's kicked in since 90s, so it's like, I feel like that angle is not all that original and pulling the whole spin. Again, I don't know that But does this all of the same?

Yeah. No, does Joss ripping this off? Either way, I'm saying I don't feel like those two things are all that tied together. All they were going for was the same amount of people, a couple of the names are the same, and that certain aspects. of the story are led to follow certain paths. Yeah, that's every screenplay.

Well, I mean, in the movie, each character, certain things are put in place to make them do certain things. Like we're in Cabin in the Woods, there's like, they do the gas thing to make them loopy, or they do the... Certain things that just kind of lead where the story goes. Whereas in this one, there were other things in the book. There were certain things that led the characters in certain directions.

I think they're still kind of pushing it on this one. Yeah, I'm saying. Is there some similarities? Yeah. Is there enough to have a whole real legit lawsuit?

That's why I'm not really sure whatever happened with the lawsuit. Because I'm kind of hoping it just kind of fell through the cracks. But I mean, it worked because I would have never heard of this book. I had never heard of this book. I'd never heard of the guy who wrote it.

I don't know if he's written anything else from what I understand. For the most part, when he first started out, he was selling the book on the boardwalks in Santa Monica or something like that. So, I mean, it's a good book. I just ruined it for everybody out there. They kept listening after the Super Devil spoiler.

Yeah, you brought it on yourself. Anyways, I mean, it's a really good book. I liked the book. It's not. I wouldn't so much say that Cabin in the Woods ripped it off so much as it ripped off other elements from other movies.

And, I mean, they're both kind of ripping off Scooby-Doo, right? Kind of, pretty much. That's what the entirety of Cabin in the Woods, at least the whole up until the big reveal, I'm like, it all just seems like a bad episode of Scooby-Doo. I mean, in the book, they were all kind of getting stoned. So, I mean, it's not like there was drugs.

There was a moose head instead of a wolf head. Was it a wolf head? That's just evil. That's the moose head is Evil Day. Oh, there was a moose head that was just kind of there.

Oh, he didn't start laughing at him or anything? No, but there were cameras playing all throughout the house, so they had shots of everything, and the whole winning the trip was rigged because they wanted that certain group of people that had the whole, every stereotype, you know. So they had the athletes, and they had the main stoner. Kind of going back to what you did last summer, too, that I brought up recently. But yeah, so I read a book, motherfuckers.

We're all mighty impressed. I know. At your reading comprehension skills. The book went on a little bit further than it needed to because it went on to the whole, oh, yeah, we sued them. We got a lot of money.

We went off to live in the woods. We got a lot of money and everything. I just ruined it more for you. They all lived happily ever after. Dun, dun, dun.

I really did. I just drug that part out way too long. I'm just like, okay, whatever. Pretty much. By then I'm like, I wanted some of these people to be dead.

Yeah. It's like when we watched April Fool's Day, I'm like, I was rooting for all them people that have been dead. And at the very end, I'm like, you fucking movie. You made me mad. See, you came after the jump.

I told you. I pinned that down in our monumental groundbreaking. Episode that I declared that April Fool's Day was the jump the shark moment in horror movies. And we got to that point where people were just, no, they all called bullshit. They're like, no, no, we're not doing that anymore.

And after that, the slashers kind of died off. And they didn't really reappear until Scream rebooted it. So, I'm telling you, that's my theory. I love slasher movies. Have you seen the trailer for the Scream TV show?

Yes. I love Bella Thorne. I think that's a good move on her part. I have to say, it's getting a lot of attention. And it's all kind of focused around her.

So, I think that's a pretty good move. She's probably going to die then, right? I think they're all going to die. They're going to Drew Barrymore her ass, aren't they? Well, just the way they're building it up is like, These are great characters.

You want to come in every week and watch them. But really, you just want to watch them die. So I think they're not going to have a problem killing off a lot. Of the regulars. I'm going to assume you haven't read any books to talk about Derry and Misty's book hour.

No, exactly. You showed me a Nessie book. I did. It was pretty exciting. Nessie in my own story or my own words or some shit like that.

So I looked at the pictures in that book. That was pretty exciting. Yeah, I think so. I like that book. It's a good story.

But I have watched some things. I watched Project Almanac. No idea what that is. I think you would yell at it a lot if that helps. I watch Top Gear.

We can't go to you because you'll just talk about Top Gear somewhere. I will. Project Almanac is what would happen if you gave a bunch of dorky high school kids the ability to travel through time. I had trouble. I'll go ahead and throw it out there.

I'm assuming you don't care about spoilers because you normally don't care. But, yeah, spoiler alert on this one, but really it's just going to be me poking holes in not even the plot as much as the screenwriting. In a way, there are moments that I think are kind of effective, but there's also times like, again, just being just enough of a sci-fi nerd that I like a lot of time travel movies. So I'm like, when the very first thing they do When they go back and first of all, they spend a hell of a lot of time trying to build this machine that like his dad was a scientist before he died. And then like now they find this stuff in his basement.

And then he was sort of kind of half working for NASA or something, but they never really figure out what was going on there. So they they devote like a third of the movie to them trying to make this thing work with like the random stuff that they like. Was there a flux capacitor? They had to go, like, steal, like, specific stuff that they needed from school, and then they're borrowing some girl's car battery. Like, it's so slapped together anyway.

Like, okay, we're totally buying that they built this time machine. But once they use it, what's the first thing they do? Go find the other version of one. Of themselves so they can mess with him. Isn't that like time travel 101?

Don't you like not. Interact with yourself? You're going to fuck up the time continuum. You're going to fuck up the time space continuum. The space time continuum will be fucked.

You don't do that. The very first thing they do. He's like, let's go to my house. And then he goes and he's like messing with himself. I watched enough Doctor Who to know that's a bad idea.

I'm telling you. That was my. I was like, guys, right off the bat, you're totally messing things up. Then it becomes, okay, well, at least if you're going back, you're traveling through time, you're going to do something important, right? Like.

Make that annoying girl at school that made you look stupid look even more stupid. If you had a time machine, what would the first thing you would do go? Make people look stupid but that's not the point the point is these dorky kids like they were like i totally blew my history exam i'm gonna go back in time and ace that exam stupid and then like they can't even get it right so they're going back in time multiple times just to take care of an exam i don't know i was. Like i would go back in time and get hitler a wedgie it's. Your welcome world the ultimate question has been answered.

An atomic wedgie. Ooh, that's kind of. Fitting, I suppose. But, okay, then this is the thing that kills me the most. And then I'll have sort of a good thing to say.

I'd go back in time and tell Corey Haim to not hang out with Corey Feldman. That's actually good advice. He would probably still be alive. We would not have license to drive, though. And I'm not sure I'd be okay with that world.

Maybe right after they make licensure, I'd be like, dude, this guy is really bringing you down. You might want to ditch him. Before Last Resort comes out anyways. Find him some other up-and-coming Hollywood star that's not doing drugs. Oh, wait, we're in trouble.

Anyway. He could go ahead. I don't know. I can't. All of them at that.

Point were having a terrible time. So anybody that's made it through, more power to you. Congratulations. So here's my main thing within the plot of our time travel movie here. I don't even think this is a spoiler because it's just ridiculous.

So here's what they do. They've got the power to go back in time. So you know what they do? They go to Lollapalooza. Was it the year that the Beastie Boys were there?

Because I could totally see that then. It doesn't matter. They're not even there to see any. It's like go back in time and see people at Woodstock or something. Like they go back to six months before to go to Lollapalooza.

Well, if it was the year the Beastie Boys were there, I could totally understand that then. And they do the same things that you could do at any. Like you could just go six months from now. You can't go see the Beastie Boys anymore. Sure you could.

They'll just replace him with somebody. No. It'll be Dick Sargent. And he'll come in and he'll be like, what up? But so, yeah, they that and they spend it's at least 15 to 20 minutes of the plot hanging out. at the concert, doing things that you could normally do at any large music festival.

I would at least go back to like 86 and see Guns N' Roses in LA. I mean, that would be ridiculous and frivolous, but at least there would be some novelty to it. I have nothing if not ridiculous and frivolous. That's true. But like, it's just, six months ago and they aren't even paying attention to like anybody in particular.

They're just there to hang out and do all the goofy stuff you do at a music festival. And I'm like, or you could wait six months and do it at the new one. You don't need a time machine to do this. The closest thing is they bought backstage passes off of eBay for nothing afterwards. I guess that's the big woohoo for going back in time six months to go to a concert that you missed.

Darn, I missed this concert. Let's use our time. I don't know. That part annoyed the piss out of me. This movie sounds stupid.

I don't want to see this movie ever. Mostly, I just feel like the whole thing was sponsored by Lollapalooza. I mean, really. It's a 15 to 20 minute commercial. It is the most perfect time in their life in this span of time. like it is so awesome and they're seeing all these bands and like i was just like this is just a big check written to you guys to make this movie which i guess shouldn't be a surprise because at the very beginning it does tell you it's an mtv films.

So like i don't think they're above doing that sort of thing. So that should have tipped me off oh wait i already knew that anyway and i still watched it so you brought it on yourself i did the only thing i thought was kind of interesting well the main kid's not bad actually so he's kind of cool and i could see him almost going on to do other stuff and the girl that he's into is like the hot girl in school so she's pretty i'm sure she'll do more stuff but what i thought was almost kind of real was the the thing that he does that because again you're gonna start messing stuff up with time travel and the thing that it makes him like break his own rules that he sets and totally start messing up everything and it's spiraling out of control is the girl It's.

All relationshipy stuff. Does she die? No, it's like he had that, again, everything is lightweight and frivolous. He had that moment where they got to where it was the moment and like this would have made their whole relationship and he blows it. And he realizes that and he thinks about it and he thinks about it and he drives himself crazy and he breaks his own rules to go back in time and change that moment so that she'll be into him.

And I'm like, that part is kind of real because that's the stuff somebody would do. I got that part. I'm like, yep, that would happen. That's the kind of thing that will unravel the space-time continuum, just trying to. Hook up with somebody.

That was the part I was okay with, because that seemed real. That's how human nature works. All we're trying to do. Is hook up, man. We're just trying to find a useful relationship.

If we have to take down time and space to do it, that's a small price to pay. So, definitely watch Project Omen. I don't know that I want to. That seems aggravating. It is kind of aggravating.

But actually, the most accurate, I should have gotten to the very first thing. It's also found footage verite style, which also annoys me. Anyways, I didn't watch anything else. I did watch, well, we did watch some ancient aliens and Esa to West wheels. That guy's goofy.

That guy's crazy. I could listen to that guy talk for hours just so I can sit back later and talk about all the things he said wrong. And you hung out with him. I did. There's a picture of you and his crazy, crazy hair.

And a picture of him with his hair. Also wearing a shirt that then has a picture of him. And his hair. On it. I don't know his name.

Giorgio. Giorgio. Tsoukalos? Tsoukalos? I hear someone talk to me about him all the time and she just calls him Giorgio.

He says, I did have a dream. All right, that will lead us into our big adventure of the day because it's sort of, maybe it's a premonition. Maybe you've already traveled in time and you've gone back to hang out with celebrities. Anyway, go ahead. Anyways, yes, I had a dream the other night.

It was, I was at a convention. I don't particularly know what convention it was. In my dream, they're all just one big convention. In the real world, they've kind of become, with minor exceptions, a lot of them have become one big convention. Anyways, I was at this convention, and Greg Schaefer, is it Schaefer?

Schaefer? Craig Schaefer? Anyways, the guy from Nightbreed. Craig Schaefer? Craig Schaefer?

I don't know. Boone from Nightbreed. Has he said anything else? Yeah, he's in That Was Then, This Is Now. He was in One Tree Hill.

He was in Hellraiser 5, I think. He was in one of my personal favorite films, Some Kind of Wonderful. He's in a lot of stuff. What was that one where he sang? It was a musical.

It was horrible. It was an early one. It was fabulous. Look it up real quick. We'll pause.

Hold on a second. And that guy sent you a video of it. It's him and he's walking down the halls and in there's a panther. Oh, God, you did send that to me. Why did you send that to me?

Haven't I suffered enough? I had to watch Project Almanac. Go back to the beginning. Way back in the beginning. Back in the early, early days.

One life to live. It was one life to... Oh, damn. The Voyage of the Rock Aliens. Hells yes.

Voyage of the Rock Aliens. I believe that is his first feature film after a stint on the Hamptons. And if you have not seen at least the trailer or the segments where he sings, you should look it up. It's pretty epic. But anyways, in my dream, he was at his table and he was doing arts and crafts.

And I had to help him. He asked for my assistance. It does seem like he would need help probably. Or at least supervision. I did.

I had to help him hold the beads. And then I had to hold stuff while the glue dried because. It was beads and not beans, right? No beads. It was beads.

He was stringing them together. For going back to grade school, you had a lot of bean art, too. No, he was stringing some beads together, and I had to hold the beads for him. He was gluing. I think it involved cotton balls or something.

It was very important that I held the cotton balls in specific places until the glue dried, or the art project was just not going to go well. I can see all this happening, kind of, actually. He was not wearing his fringy jacket, though. Where's Bandana? No, where's no Bandana?

Oh, man. I know. Sadness. But that was my dream. Ta-da!

That's no Marlena moment or anything. I don't know. I can see yours happening. I would totally help him with art projects. Not everybody, though, because some people would probably piss me off.

But I would help Boone from Nightbreed with arts and crafts. Would they be like creepy Clive Barker-y kind of arts and crafts? You'd be done and it'd look like a Clive Barker painting and you'd be like, ah! How did we make that? I don't know.

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So speaking of conventions, hey, what did we do? We went to a convention? We went to one of those convention type things. Today? We just finished.

The road trip back. We did. May or may have not gotten Jack in the Box. We did. We totally did.

And then I went to a bookstore and bought all kinds of books and it was a good day. It was entertaining. But we did a couple of other things. What did we do? I guess we should go to yours first.

Oh, gee. The very first thing I was so excited about this convention was it was somebody's very first convention appearance from what I understand. But Jack knows where he was there. And I was like, oh my God, Jack knows where he's going to be there. And I was so excited and everybody else was like, Except for me.

I was like, you mean Dead at 21's Jack Noseworthy? I know. Star of the Brady Bunch movie? Idle Hands? U571?

UB40? No, wait. I kept calling it UB40 earlier. And then he wouldn't sing hits from UB40. I wonder why.

Actually, you didn't ask him. He might have. He might have, actually. He was very personable. He was the nicest.

He was so incredibly delightful. I just wanted to hug him and carry him around. I'd give him piggyback rides. You might be able to. He's not like a giant dude.

He was about your size. No, I'm way bigger than him. I probably weigh like at least 50% of him. Like extra. I'm not buying any of this.

But he was kind of awesome. He was incredibly awesome. He was so nice and so friendly. But then like you mentioned, this was probably his first convention. So he hasn't had to deal with this shit for very many years.

Give him about like seven or eight years. He'd be like, fuck all you people. He hasn't been beaten down yet like we have. But. I started off this way.

He was, yeah, he was really excited to be there. He likes Twitter. He wanted everybody to tweet the pictures. He was so, yeah, he was so excited about this. He let me take a selfie because I got like the regular picture, like straightforward.

Then I have like five chins because I'm fatty. So I'm like, no, we must do the above head, like the official selfie angle. I mean, not that everybody's not doing it in their selfie shots on their pages. But I like that you at least out it for the reason because there are a lot of girls out there. I just see girls on the sites that I'm on.

But I notice a lot of them from that same angle. And it's funny that nobody owns up to why they're always conveniently at that angle. I tell you exactly why. I do it that way so you don't have all the neck rolls right here. Because if you get it from here, it's like you're earthwarming it and shit.

And you've got to get it from up here so that you can't see all of the chins. It helps everybody. It's a good angle. Fun facts for you guys. I know.

I'm helping everybody. This is a public service announcement. Upper angle. Facing down. Good times.

So, yeah. He was. I'm disappointed that he did not have any pictures from Idle Hands. And you told him. I did.

I was so nervous. I was so afraid to talk to him. Because he seemed like he was talking to everybody. And I have anxiety issues. So, I'm like, if I wait until there's more people, maybe he won't talk to me.

And I feel bad for saying that. Because after talking to him. He seems so nice, even though I'm pretty sure he hates me and thinks I'm retarded or something. That's not true. He liked you all kinds.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure he was making fun of me because- He was not. He was. Because he was like, yeah, I don't talk much. And he kept on going about how he's not a very talkative person. And I'm like, oh my God, me neither.

And he's like, yeah, I'm totally lying. I'm like, I was there right with you. You do realize he's a performer, right? I know. He's probably kind of got a public.

But he hasn't done anything recently, and he's not really been a public figure. He's still like a performer, though. I think most of the guys who get into theater and film. He's probably laughing at me right now. I don't buy that.

But I think they're usually kind of outgoing, at least to the extent of being talkative. It's not across the board, but I'd say a lot of them are. He was so delightful. He was very delightful. And.

I already planted the seed. I invited him to come on. I was like, this is your first one. We'll leave you alone a little bit. But if he likes telling his stories.

His assistant mocked my happy dance. I think she was just impressed that there was a happy dance. There was a plethora of happy dances. There was a lot of happy dances. I was very happy.

There was a happy dance when he wasn't even at the table yet. He was just coming back to the table and you did a happy dance. I did the happy dance before he even came back because I could look at the pictures without feeling like he was there looking at me. I just thought it was sad that she, like, seemed impressed that i knew i had immediately id'd dead at 21 i'm like. Isn't that what a lot of people know him from like.

I guess maybe not i have no people i have no idea what the other pictures were from i know that's why to me that was the main one but like i don't know she was just like oh you know that one i'm like yeah. I was like why would i not know dead at. 21 come on now exactly mtv films we've already said the quality things that oh wait. I asked him Why that shit is not on DVD. And I told you the answer.

I know. Music rights. It's always music rights. He didn't seem to know. He didn't really.

Yeah. At the beginning, he was like, well, I don't know. For a while, there was highlights on YouTube. And I was like, yeah, music rights. I was like, it's always music rights, especially with early MTV stuff.

Because they had no reason to. Worry about it. That's why it took forever for Beavis and Butthead. And Daria and all that. And they still had to change.

That's why Beavis and Butthead, they're not playing the music videos. Daria, they changed all the music in the background. Supernatural on Netflix. Painful. They did not plan ahead when they did these shows.

Because, I mean, Supernatural, when you watch Supernatural, it's a whole other tangent. When you watch Supernatural, the music is almost as much of a character as Sam and Dean. So when you take out all the actual music and put generic music in, it just makes the whole thing feel generic. Because music licensing is expensive. And they do not want to do that when they put it on DVD.

Or stream it sometimes. Now that we've moved into that world, too. It's the same argument. But anyways, if anybody ever has the chance to go see him, he is delightful. I agree.

Jack knows where he was a lot of fun. I was kind of like, eh, he hasn't done anything lately. I don't know how he's going to be. And he might not look good. Oh, but wait.

He was fucking amazingly hot. He looked good. Dude was pretty hot, I'll give you. I mean, he looked damn good. He did.

And then we were doing the math and we're like, wait, how old is he? Damn, he looks good. We're still not for sure because Wikipedia and IMDB say two different things. Eh, you can't trust either of those. So I'm going with old but not super old.

But regardless, looks amazingly well for either. Damn good. Mm-hmm. Almost as good. In my opinion, he looks better than your favorite, but I'm going to assume that you're not going.

To go with him. We decided it was a tie. We each get our own. We each went there for a person. Let's be honest.

Yes, there was one specific reason for me. And me. And I was glad to be involved in the Jack Noseworthy. I talked to him briefly, but I was there for somebody else. Your girl looked at me funny.

Because you pointed me out and I was taking stalker pictures. And she looked at me and there was this look. I was like that. Over there. That's me.

She's always hanging around. I figured you wanted pictures. I was doing you a favor. And I appreciate those. But my favorite one is her totally calling you out with that.

Hey, stop taking a picture. Look. The person we're talking about, of course, is one of my favorite people on the planet, Samantha Mathis. She has aged remarkably well. She also looks amazing.

I'm not saying that she's old or anything. I'm just saying she's been in films for quite some time. I can say it. We're about the same age. She's old.

She's as old as I am, so. She had tiny feet. There you go. Most girls would take that as a high compliment. She was beautiful.

She looked amazing. She was in great shape. She's actually doing more stuff actively now. I guess more mainstream stuff because it's stuff that people are actually paying attention to, I guess. There was a lot of Under the Dome pictures there.

I know. I'm wondering how many people know specifically from Under the Dome and Strain and that more. Recent stuff, but Again, most of the people that we were there around the time we were there were like old school dorks like I am. So the guy that showed up with the giant pump up the volume cardboard stand up from the video store back in the day, which I'm bringing up now because we're going to reference it in a little while. So you'll know when we're talking about that.

Yeah, he showed up with like a full size. And I was like, why didn't you bring yours? Because it's in storage. Anyway, it's in my cellophane wrapper so that you have to keep that stuff wrapped up. Mm-hmm.

We know why. Weirdo. Anyway. She was ridiculous. She was very nice, very beautiful.

She was very cool. As you're about to find out. Mm-hmm. Because she was cool enough that she sat down and talked to me. I think we should go talk to her right now.

One night in a car. You're the voice crying out in the wilderness. You're the voice that makes my brain burn and my guts go gooey. Yeah, you gut me. My insides spill on your altar and tell the future.

My steaming, gleaming guts spell out your nature. I know you. Not your name, but your game. I know the true you. Samantha, Samantha, dear.

I have to become. Samantha, Samantha, dear. I love you. She's left on Well, I've missed a thousand ditches. But this one tops them all.

Alright, so we're here with Samantha Mathis. I try to get in early. You are a Brooklyn girl. So how did you get into acting initially? Well, there's a misconception I'm a Brooklyn girl.

So we'll start with that. After my parents separated, my dad moved to Brooklyn. So from. Two to ten years old, I did spend some time in Brooklyn when my dad worked at Pratt Institute in Fort Greene. But I was born in Manhattan at NYU Medical Center.

And I am a third-generation actress. My mother was B.B. Bush. She was known most for playing Dr. Carol Marcus in Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan.

And my grandmother was an actress from Vienna, Austria. She came to the United States and was in the Diary of Anne Frank. She played Anne's mother in that and did other various Broadway. She did that on Broadway and was in the first production of Dial M for Murder on Broadway. So I grew up in the business.

You didn't really have a choice, but was mom, mom didn't like it? No, I totally had a choice and my parents both did not want me to become an actress. But try though they did, they could not dissuade me. Because most actors I talk to when they have kids and I ask them, they're like, no, God, no, I don't want them involved in this business. So how much of a fight did they put up?

You know, they put up a decent fight. I mean, I started begging my mom at the age of 12 and she said, absolutely not. And then she began to, she was very smart and she had me sort of, start to prove how much I wanted it by taking me to set at 4.30 in the morning and making me be there for 16 hours and sit on an Apple box in the back with the grips and the electricians to see how glamorous it was. And then I still wanted to do it. So then she said, you know, take classes.

And then I took professional classes and, you know, kept sort of proving myself till by the time I was 16, she said, okay, you know, good luck. Basically. And then I started auditioning and I got a job like two months later. And she went, oh, God. Oh, no.

It started. And also, it's never going to be this easy. And she was right. I mean, it is a very challenging career and business. And I love it.

But it has not been without its challenges. I mean, it's definitely a different. job because on the one hand you still have to treat it as a profession but you're also a performer so it's a very I mean most people don't have both sides like that it's true and it's. It's not like being a musician necessarily where you can just go on a street corner and sort of start jamming to pay for money so you're waiting for the opportunity to do your work I mean you can certainly you'd probably get arrested if you stood on a street corner and started doing like a Shakespearean monologue. People would just think you were crazy. Although in New York, it depends how good you are really noticed.

But, um, you, you are at the mercy of being given the opportunity unless you're creating your own work. Which I mean, now that's what I was thinking at this point, it's kind of a different world. Is it something you would, I mean, now at the time you couldn't have, but now would it be something more that you would be interested in? initiating your own stuff starting your own thing all together from scratch um well. Yes you're absolutely right that it's a different world it's a completely different world and and when i was a young actress you really could just be an actress um now i feel like you have to be a hyphenate um and um and also there's just more opportunity and ways to do other things and yes um i've been uh working on producing the last several years, and I developed and sold an idea for a TV pilot, which ultimately wasn't made, but was something that was my baby that I developed with a group of people for a couple of years, and I'm in the process of developing something else right now, which I'm very excited about.

Actually, a couple of things, and I'm also starting to move into exploring directing. See, I feel like all of that would be more fulfilling than just, you know, back in the day when you just sit around waiting to be handed a job. Whereas now when you're creating the. Content from go, like, I don't know, it seems like it would have to be a little more fulfilling at the end result. I mean, I love acting.

I really do. And I've also moved into doing theater, which has been incredibly gratifying. So I moved to New York six years ago, partly to start doing more theater. And I did a Broadway show right before I mean, I was so blessed. I got a Broadway show three weeks after I moved to New York and, and, and that is so gratifying.

It is, you've never worked harder as an actor to do eight shows a week. Um, but I really love, I love that work so much. That said, yeah, I feel like, uh, after almost 30 years in the business, I have so much, I have experience and a really good sense of of what works and what doesn't and what people are interested in, I think I have a good sense of material. And so I feel like I have more to offer than just being an actress for hire. And it is gratifying to develop something from the ground up and now exploring directing.

Just having even sat with an actor and helped them run lines and then started sort of finding myself directing them, I feel it feels gratifying. And I have something to offer there. So it's exciting. It's probably natural at this point. Yeah, it's happening organically.

Well, then I guess to start off around that point, I mean, how did you get involved in Pump Up the Volume? I've said many a time on this show, there would not be this show without it. It is weird the impact that movie had from every angle, I think. How so? I think it flipped this.

Did you start on a ham radio? I was looking into it. At the time and, and I think the FCC thing was not a, not, not selling me very much on it, but I do remember it. Like flip that switch of like, I kind of liked that. Like I want to do that.

And, and I think I liked the music end of it. Like he starts off, but he kind of veers into this talking thing and it, and it becomes, I don't know, sort of therapeutic for everyone involved. And then I found that even for myself. So I think, I think it did sort of plant that seed and, And it took years till technology caught up so that I could actually do it and not get arrested in a giant van. But yeah, so it's funny how long it took.

But I do, yeah, I credit that it's probably the only reason. So I guess that was one more reason. It was like I had to see how you got involved in. Well, I got involved in it in the normal way. I mean, the casting director knew me, knew my work.

I had been doing just television up until that point. But I'd been working for a couple of years and she knew my work. And I had been backpacking in Europe and I came back and my agent called and said, you have an audition tomorrow. I came in, the casting director looked at me and said, you're so jet lagged. come back tomorrow and I was like but I'm so excited to read for this and she was like go home get a little more sleep and come back tomorrow and so that's what I did and um I don't know I mean all I can say is I went in and I auditioned and I really connected with the character and I was really excited about the script and uh the feeling was mutual I went through several auditions and screen tested with Christian and uh and I got the job do.

You feel like going into it they had a type already set i don't. Know i don't know i mean you you would have to talk to the creative people involved i was actually just on the phone with the producer sandy stern who's still one of my best friends and um we were very much on the same page when they cast me but we he was like but her hair has to be dark and i was like yeah for sure my hair has to be black and he was like oh yeah no your hair has to be black so they had i guess that in their minds that's what i was on the same page that she was a girl who would dye her hair, you know? That she had that aesthetic. Well, then how much did you kind of add to the character? Because I think Nora is just such a likable character on every level.

Granted, again, all the guys kind of did, but my other favorite thing is the exchange with her and her friend. Like, it's one of the few times I feel like there's, like, in these half-second scenes you get these, like, sort of realistic girls and they're kind of interacting in a realistic way. I don't remember. What were we saying to each other? Horrible things.

But you were just calling each other names. Yeah, it's very real. That was Lala Sloteman. And we hit it off like gangbusters and were really tight buds for a long time after that. So all I can say is that that's where chemistry comes into play.

Like you hear, they say chemistry reads and it's not just chemistry for a romantic thing. But, you know, people hit it off. So we had a natural banter. I don't remember exactly, but I can imagine we were probably like, bitch, fuck you. There was a lot of that.

Yeah, yeah. You know, it was a few years. ago i don't really remember like to what extent we were like improvving and stuff but um but in terms of i i can only say that i uh as an actor and that was my first movie but i i had very strong feelings about what she looked like and have continued to sort of... I build from the outside in, and I get very strong ideas about clothes, and that informs how I feel in my body and how I hold myself, which helps carve out how a person thinks. It's sort of a backwards way of working, but I know that I'm not the only person who works that way, and I did have a lot of input into what I was wearing in that movie, and that defined my walk and my talk and my. Who Nora was to an extent.

But Alan Moyle also wrote a really great script and he had very strong feelings about who she was too. So it was a collaboration. Well, I guess I'm trying to hit some of the others. The one that I'm, again, sometimes I feel like I'm alone. I love Super Mario Bros.

How did that happen, and what kind of insanity was going on on that set? Oh, my God. Well, what's funny is, like, you're probably the 30th or 40th person in the last 24 hours who's come up and said, I'm probably the only person who loves this movie, so I get it. But that's here. It's kind of a bit of a train wreck, but...

I disagree. But. It was, for the time, a really big movie. It was the most expensive movie ever made in 1991, knowing it made a $ 50 million movie. Yes, $ 50 million, yes.

For Mario Brothers, I agree. Yes, yes. I'd played the video game Donkey Kong with the Mario Brothers when I was a kid. The script came to me, and I knew that the directors that were attached to it had done Max Headroom, which was a really big deal and creatively so innovative. And I read it, and it wasn't the strongest script, but I was really interested in what they were going to do creatively.

I don't think I auditioned for that. I think I was just offered the movie. And it was a wild ride. I would think it would have to be. I mean, just visuals alone are kind of amazing.

I think the most amazing part is that it has so little to do with that game. Haha! And that's kind of my, because I was like trying to make a story fit that game is ridiculous, so I like that they threw that out the window and were just. Like, here's what we're doing. It has some other elements.

I mean, the Mario brothers are there, and Princess Daisy's in a castle, and there's a dinosaur, and then there's, you know, the bad guys, and so, and then they have to save her, and there's this slime, and it's her. Dad, and Even that cast. I mean, Dennis Hopper is amazing. Like, any movie he's in. Like, even King Koopa.

Like, he just does not phone it in. Like, he's always amazing. So, were you, I don't know, on the set with him much in his insanity? Oh, yeah. I mean, Dennis was amazing.

I was so intimidated to meet him. As you kind of should be. Knowing his work from Blue Velvet and other stuff. And just, I was scared of him. And I was 20 or 21, and I was kind of a sweet, I wasn't a prude.

But I was definitely a little daunted by him. He's lived a crazy life at that point. He was, he definitely enjoyed playing cat and mouse with me. But I came to realize he was a real pussycat. And I have to say, when we were down there in Wilmington, he really loved Wilmington a lot.

That's where they shopped Blue Velvet. And he took me to see a couple of buildings he wanted to buy. One was a house and one was an old Masonic temple. And he said, I'm going to turn this into an acting school and have artists lofts and have a theater. And the building was beautiful but dilapidated.

And he did it. And I went back to shoot Under the Dome and I went to that building and it's beautiful. And there are artist lofts and an acting school and a theater that is gorgeous and a rooftop bar. and I went to the roof and I had a drink and I toasted him because he did what he said he wanted to do, and I thought that was really impressive. I mean, he was always impressive even when he was young, but he was so crazy that I feel like when he turned his life around and kind of hit that point, Everything he did. He got so into art.

He was an artist. He bought so much art. He was a photographer. I remember seeing a whole series that he shot. He was so in love with that stuff.

I have to give him credit. He changed his whole life. Good to know he's building this thing to help all these other people too. He was very supportive of artists in his life. Bob Hoskins too.

He's pretty amazing. Yeah, I mean, what a loss. What a loss. He was a sweetheart of a man. I have such fond memories particularly of going on the press tour to Japan with Bob and John and being in Kyoto and staying in an old Japanese hotel and all of us coming to dinner in our Japanese robes and sitting down and kind of quiet And then Bob said, all right, so who's got their underwear on and who doesn't?

And we just started laughing. And then all of our counterparts from the production distribution company came in in their suits and ties. And we're like, why are we the assholes in the robes on the floor and you guys have your clothes on? Is this a prank? The gig got punked.

Yeah, we got a little Japanese punked. But he was a sweet man and such a fine actor. But you got stuck with this Amo the whole time. I did. Yeah, no slouch himself.

He's pulled in some really good performances. It's funny how all over the map he is. As an actor. His theater is really phenomenal. Have you had a chance to see any of his one-man shows?

Yeah. He's a very talented, talented guy. The last thing I saw him in was Chef, which I really liked that movie. I thought that was a sweet movie. Yeah.

Well, to move ahead a little, again, I was really on board with Thing Called Love. And I think because it was, I think it had issues getting out there because it was almost ahead of its time in the music end of it. Because it sat so Nashville and, at the time, standard country music. And I feel like none of what any of you were doing was standard country music for that time. It all became what.

Eventually was alt country and all these weird offshoot singer-songwriter things that, like, I think for country fans, it was probably hard to watch because it didn't fit the mold that they expected. And then other people probably were afraid it was going to be another McCountry, so they didn't want to watch it. So I feel like that was such a strike against it. Once you get into it, it's such a great story and such great characters. And the whole cast.

It's like you guys were kind of amazing, but I don't know. What was it like? I mean, little Sandy Bullock hanging out there. Unknown Sandy Bullock at that time, yeah. You couldn't be more spot on in terms of your assessment of why the movie fell through the cracks.

I mean, at that time, no disrespect to the gentleman, but Billy Ray Cyrus' song Achy Breaky Heart had come out and all we kept saying on set was we are not making Achy Breaky Heart. Peter Bogdanovich is an artist and a tourer and he had a vision that did not fit Paramount Studios' vision of what a country music movie would be. They wanted us to you know, wear red cowboy boots and do line dances and, and, and make a country music pop movie. And that was not what we were interested in doing. And that's not the movie that we made, um, much to their dismay.

Um, and, um, we were incredibly blessed. Uh, River had a really strong relationship with T-Bone Burnett, who ended up being our music supervisor and introduced us to, um, true country music. Uh, Again, no disrespect to anybody else, but the roots of country music. It's really all... Blues.

And even gospel. And the roots of Americana. And he was my tour guide into the world of country music, which I knew virtually nothing about. I didn't really know about Johnny Cash. I didn't really know about...

I knew Patsy Cline. Classic. But, so, you know, T-Bone has grown to become, like, the go-to guy for authentic music of any kind of Americana genre of music. But he put a real stamp on the movie. And I think that's what makes the movie good.

But it wasn't the movie that Paramount wanted. So, they didn't know what to do with it. How was he to work as the director? Oh, he was amazing. I mean.

He is a sweetheart of a man. This just reminds me, I had a dream and him. Sweetheart of a man, loves actors, knows exactly what he wants, shoots that way, because he knows how he's going to edit while he's shooting. So he'd literally come in for a close-up, but then he'd cut, and I'd be like, we didn't finish, and he's like, I know, I'm going to be out of it by then. And is a treasure trove of film history, which anyone who knows about movies knows.

But, I mean, my God, to sit and listen to him talk about Howard Hawks and John Ford and Orson Welles and John Cassavetes, like my hero, was just amazing. I mean, the first AD had a challenging job because he'd be like, Peter, Peter, we've got to get back to it. And River and I were just like, tell us another one, Peter. But it was amazing. It was a really, really beautiful experience.

It is interesting. I just sat down with Monty Hellman, who directed Tulane Blacktop, and worked with Corman in the early days. And he was like that. He would just launch off into this side story. And then I'm like, wait, you were supposed to direct Reservoir Dogs?

And he just... I'd never heard that before, and he just kind of goes into these different little side stories, and I'm like, wait, this was your life? And he's just, like, immersed in film history. So it is interesting listening to these guys that have been around and logged in so much time in the business over the years. Someone should be making a documentary about Mr.

Bogdanovich before it's too late. With him goes away so much history about cinema. And he's also an incredible mimic. I mean, his impersonations of all these people are spot on. They definitely need to be recording all of that.

Well, of other big names in the industry, we did mention the American president. That felt like it was funny how much that, like, the movie itself did relatively well, but I feel like. It created so much more than the movie. Like, that has to be the reason the West Wing came about, because Sorkin wrote American president, but then also, like, is that not why Spin City came about? Like, it's almost Spin City is Michael J.

Fox kind of doing the exact same job, only on a New York mayor level. So, I don't know. How did that shoot go and the Sorkin words being thrown at people? Yes, the Sorkin words. And you live by the Sorkin word.

You know, he wasn't directing, so he didn't have the same... control in that regard that he did on the West Wing but I know that on the West Wing it was no it's not the it's a and and and and you know what he I never was on the West Wing but I would say he was probably right like almost 100% of the time because the man has a masterful grasp of the English language and coming from being a theater playwright I don't know like I can't say whether spin city really spun out of that but i think you know it's possible it definitely opened up an interest in political the political realm again um it was just a blueprint like you know someone a politician sexy again um but uh i was in awe of being a part of that movie it was certainly the biggest movie i'd ever made at that point um with this most star-studded cast i was super starstruck and intimidated by everyone, which actually lent itself to my character.

I mean, just Rob Reiner alone. I'm sitting on set with Meathead. And he's an incredible director and a big bear of a man. I mean, I was nervous most of the time. And then I'm with Michael J.

Fox and Martin Sheen and Michael Douglas and Annette Bening and Anna Deavere Smith. And every time you turned around, it was just someone... That I knew. It was a great movie to be a part of. Probably one of my better experiences in getting to do research because they sent me to the Clinton White House and I followed Clinton for a day.

From 6.30 in the morning to 6 o'clock at night. And that was an amazing life experience. One of those things as an actor you get to do. That was not the tour that anyone else gets to take. And Rob has those connections.

He called up the White House. Oh let's see i get the one of the other big just broken arrow working with john woo how again a man who seems like he probably almost killed many of his leads over the years so i did anything uh out of the ordinary going on that. One you know i mean i pulled a lessel in my leg once there was a scene when christian and i were running away from a helicopter and they'd in a, in a, in a, like a ravine and sand. And they'd set up like, you know, a hundred feet of squibs to go off onto the left and the right to make it look like we were being shot at while the helicopter was going over us. And then we had to haul ass and we were running in sand.

And I took a step and, and then I just started limping. And then I fell to the ground as soon as they said cut. And, you know, medics all like descended upon me and, um, uh, you know, put all various sorts of ointments and wraps on my thigh. But other than that, I've got to say it was a really safe set. It was like being an outward bound.

And as a girl, to be the only female in the cast, that was a lot of fun for me. To be playing with the boys and the toys. To be strapped to the side of a moving train. To be driving a Humvee. I really liked...

I really liked... that experience of being kind. Of a badass. How precise was he in directing? I mean, how laid out did he have everything as far as action and stuff? Very precise.

Extremely precise. And I'd never seen anyone use so many cameras. We did one shot in particular with seven cameras. One was cranked to be fast. One was under cranked.

One, you know, was a Dutch angle. It was all different. And it was really impressive. I wish I could go back and have that experience again because... I knew what I was doing and what I was seeing, but I would have an even greater appreciation for it now.

I was still enough of a kid to be like, wow, it's John Woo. This is really cool. But now I'd be like, why are you doing it that way? What does that mean? What, how will you edit it?

You know, that does seem like somebody planning on editing a lot later that many different things running. But, um, I guess just wrap up. Uh, I did just want to say thank you for all the stuff that you've done. I mean, I, I, I usually out myself with my weird... There's only been a handful of crushes.

And Misty outed me herself as I. As we saw you were coming here, she was like, didn't the whole back of your door used to be that... Actually, the guy showed up here earlier with that giant pump of the vibe. I didn't have that one. I had the thing called Love One.

The one that was just you walking down the road. And that was the back of my door. So I. Yeah, I out myself for being a geek because I was suckered in. I probably should have.

I think I still have it. I won't lie. I've got it. It's in a box with the rest of my toys at this point. Thank you for being honest.

I appreciate that. I said don't tell her that part. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that a lot.

Yeah, again, especially at that point, the whole Nora thing, I think it all kind of attached itself to me really early. I used to play. Some really strong, fun, sexy, smart characters when I was in my early 20s, and so it's certainly flattering to know that some gentlemen had a crush on me from all that. Well, that's, I mean, I usually. In all earnestness, actually, that's great, because I was playing someone who was intelligent, and I wasn't a ditz, and I had strength, and that's great that that made an impression on young men.

We need more strong, independent female characters. Especially at that point in, you know, 80s movies weren't really known for smart female characters. So, yeah, the fact that she was as well-written and as much... of an equal as, you know, Christian Slater that like, I think it really did. Kind of, you know, make an impact on it. So, uh, well, okay.

Aside from my outing myself here, um, you, you've also got new stuff. Is there stuff you want to tell people about? You've got, you showed up on under the dome. We may or may not spoil that. I did show up on under the dome.

Uh, but we won't talk too much about that if you haven't seen it, but I, I was on, I was on it for a bit and I may be back. You never know. It's a strange show. You could be that. The dome works in mysterious ways.

Um, but, uh, yeah, uh, uh, people should check out the second season of the strain. It starts on FX on July 12th and I've joined the show starting in the second episode playing, um, a really tough council woman from, uh, Staten Island named Justine Ferraldo, who has a really strong relationship with the fire department and the police department. And, uh, she starts to figure out how to sort of uh cleanse uh staten island from from the vampires and so the mayor of new york reaches out to her and uh wants to work together with her and uh that will grow over the season. Yeah and how involved is guillermo on this. I think he was more involved in the first season i know creatively he's involved in the show but he's in and out because he's doing so many things so he was even on set and i literally i'd walk in and and they'd be like ah wasn't that nice to see guillermo and i was like nobody told me again you guys i haven't met him yet so i actually realized he was on set my last day we looked at each other and i was like is that And then they were like, we're ready, and I went to set, and I was like, goddammit, when is someone going to introduce me to the man?

He's dodging you. So, he probably has a crush on me, and he's too intimidated to say hi. There's probably a thing called love, big cardboard stand-up in his room. Uh-huh, there you go. But I'm hoping season three is going to happen, and then I'm going to be like, okay, I demand.

I will not come to set until I meet Guillermo. I have writers. It's mostly just hanging out with Guillermo. It's his show. It's his vision.

Yeah. He created a show. He then co-wrote these books. And then they went and sold the show. And it's all from the mind of Guillermo.

And the template that he sets is very strong. So it's his show. All right. Well, thank you for talking with us, man. It's been great.

This was really fun. Thank you. I love you. Samantha And my love. I was that creepy person lurking off to the side.

You are a creeper. I am. We were like, damn it, Misty, leave us alone. We're trying to have an important conversation. And maybe not spoil certain seasons of Under the Dome.

So, yes. Thank you once again to Samantha for sitting there and talking to us and putting up with me. And for putting up with me. I once again outed myself for being sappily in love with her. So, what are you going to do?

I don't think I'm alone, though. At least there were a few other weird guys out there. I'm sure a few listening right now were also sappily devoted to her. I'm just thinking about how adorable she was. I'm just lost.

Sorry. She was pretty good. Anything else about the convention that we went to? They need to have it at a place that is not disabled or water fountains. Okay, that was funny.

Misty's wandering around looking for a water fountain. Oh, we found them. We found about three. None of them worked. One of them made a sound.

The other two didn't even have elements that would make sounds anymore. Yeah, they took out the buttons. There's no knobs. They were just sort of a reservoir in the wall. Like, if they had water fountains, this is where it would be.

But you know what? You're going to Starbucks because... We're not giving you free water. Yeah, there was a disabled water fountain a few feet from a really long line at the Starbucks. You do the math, people.

I was about ready to go stick my head under a faucet in the bathroom. And that's gross. Yeah, I've seen people. That's probably not a good idea. I talked to a stranger about Corey Haim.

That was pretty exciting. That doesn't always happen, you talking to people. I know, but I do like talking about Corey Haim. Because they noticed my Corey tattoo. And they were like, did you get to meet him?

And I'm like, yeah, he was at the Horror Hound in India a couple years before. It was like a year before he died or something. And he had lost a lot of weight and he was looking really good. And then he died. He was back on track.

He was doing good. He was staying away from Feldman. And then, look what happened. So they were very impressed that I had... Got to meet Corey Haim and got my picture taken with him.

I brought it up on Facebook. I'm like, see? I'm not making it up. He's right here. So, yay.

I impressed people. Because they didn't get to meet Corey Haim. Neener. If you have a chance to go see Angus Grimm, you best do it soon. He's not the youngest man in the world.

I thought when we saw him a couple years ago, he was looking a bit up there. That's what I was saying. I was like, he didn't look so bad last time. And I started doing the math. I was like, oh, what was that, like seven years ago or something?

That's, I guess, a long time. He's an amazing guy. He had an amazing career. But he is getting up there. So if you get a chance, I'm not saying it, but you best go.

I'm not wishing ill upon him. Definitely not. He's your fake grandpa. I would totally adopt him as my grandpa. He is a wonderful person and a very kind man.

I'm just saying. You best go see him. Visit my grandpa, for God's sakes. What's wrong with you people? Too much to ask.

Just visit your grandpa every once in a while. I'm just giving everybody a warning. I want you to be like, oh, I thought I had plenty of time. You best go. That's true with anything.

You never know with anybody, really, as we just said. I hope he lives a continually long life and lives forever and ever and ever. But he was not looking so good. Sorry. I wish people would quit bringing dead animals in jars and considering that's something to sell at conventions.

I don't know. It has been a major movement in recent years. Bringing animal bits. I'm like, it's just gross. I like animals.

And I'm not like, I don't know. I just think it's weird. I like them all that weird shit, but. There's a lot of weird stuff there, but it is funny how much of it in the last few years has become dead animals. Dead animal parts.

I guess it's because they can't bring human parts or they get arrested. That one guy said that all of his human parts were real. That's true. No, he had mostly human blood that he said had been disinfected. Is that what he said?

I don't know. He had a real human skull. And then he had a human skull and some other random bones. And I'm like, are you just a grave robber, dude? Because I don't know if that's legal.

Talk about Jack Noseworthy and how delightful he is. Samantha Mathis and how beautiful she is. She's super awesome. Meredith Salinger was pretty hot, but we didn't talk to her. Ric Flair looks old.

But Mosey's awesome. Talk about everybody who was there. Just randomly starts batting off people. Misty Monday was there. What's her name?

What's her name? What's her name? Come on, say it. Misty Mundane? Yeah, exactly.

Actually, she's labeled herself as a real name now. Oh, that's not her birth name? Erin Brown is nowhere near as awesome. That's not quite so memorable, is it? Playmate of the Apes.

Is that the one she was in? Yeah, that's the one I was... Handed a copy and went, Here, you need to watch this. And I kept watching... the story parts. I was watching Porn Wrong, people.

I was scanning. Through the bad, the. Bad, like, R-rated girl-on-girl action, because it's really, at best, all there was. But the ship made out of PVC pipe was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. I was so thrilled with how bad the spaceship was, and then the sets in general, and that stellar acting.

Overall with the whole cast. Yeah, it was an interesting most-watched some scenes. Watched let's put it that way yeah i was doing it wrong but there were a huge amount of vhs tapes there there were several people that had like massive amounts so as i told carl that other recent episode when he was just like there's. Not anybody that likes vhs out there like me it was like i was surprised i was like. No there's some out there they're making a comeback you just gotta find the right people so yes write in if you're a vhs tape head and we'll Pass the word along to Carl to let him know those people are still out there.

Otherwise, I think that's about all we saw. Once again, thank you to Jack Noseworthy for dealing with you and your happy dance and all your craziness. There was a whole bunch of happy dance. Thank you once again to Samantha for putting up with my sappy revelations of teenage love and devotion. Anyway, yeah, she's awesome.

So definitely support her in all that she does from here on out. And thank you for talking with us. So I'm sure we'll. Be back in the near future at another one of those conventions or with other random misty activities and fabulous celebrity conversations. Hells yeah.

Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Well, she's a cute, cute as a button, but you better watch out, she don't take you from anyone.

She's tough, yeah, she's tough as hell, but she's been through a lot. Wouldn't know it, but she's so young. Mom feels right in the day, every first night. Young me, we're a lonely kid that feels fearful about it. Well, she's smart, smart as a whip, and if you need advice, it won't get better for anyone.

She's short, only 5'2, but when she lacks in height, she makes up for it. In guts and bones. And her men will bust me in with all the wear and tear, but you know she's strong in. Her own way. She's carried me through the worst of times, she's been the light in my darkest days.

Do do do do do do do do Wasn't that my place, but just no good, and I had to get out. Life carried me all the time, but you bailed me out. When it comes to you, it would fail me, girl. Don't know what I would do without you. When I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free.

When I'm free, I'm free, I'm free. When I'm free, I'm free, I'm free. Now I have. To see the first season to build up to because I'm like. I just met her.

There you go. That's awesome. Yeah. Very cool to meet you. Yeah, good to meet you.

I have to watch this train now. Season two. So, it's awesome. All right, y'all. Have a good day.

I didn't want to spoil season one under the dome. Watch season two of that one, too. She's really good. Oh, no way, never mind. There's no point in watching after season two.

I've said that a few times. Not that there's no point, just that I haven't seen it because I died and I got busy, but then I realized some people haven't. It takes a lot of strange turns, I have to say. This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by The Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support the show, Email producer at moviemeltdown.com.

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