Feast of Flesh

Yeah, weird. We you know had there because you programmed this entire month and before we started recording, we were talking about a true piece of Americana. Uh in insane clown posse. Uh. I was a little disappointed that Big Money Hustlers was not a pick uh plan, b brother, that was all my plan, Big Money Hustlers.

What's the other one, Big Money Rustlers. We're gonna save that for you know we should do if one of your other themes falls through for twenty twenty four. You know what, dude, ICP Movies pic Yeah, finally get around to watching all of the two movies that they have. It'll be a dangerous duo, right cereals cereal clown madness. Well, speaking of dangerous duos, on this episode of the Culture Cast, I am still your host, Christash you, much to the chagrin of many.

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It's true. You know, we were talking again before turning on the recorder about turning going and switching it on, you know, putting a quarter in. We were talking about a couple of years ago. I want to say twenty twenty nineteen, maybe twenty No, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, we did Softcore worn month. I'm this exploitation.

Exploitation is that what I was like? Okay, I could, I couldn't remember. This is my own show and I carried the same thing. But when I think softcore port, I think of this is probably more endemic of the era of cable I grew up watching. But I tend to think of either like erotic thrillers like machaneon Tweet, like Bedroom Eyes that thing, or I think of like European Arotka, like com manu.

Well, things like that s exploitation is more like a grade house kind of you know, uh, like Michael Finland Flesh Trilogy, Gorandy could House on Yeah, House on Bear Mountain beat r E. Can you imagine if we had had a porn parody title for that one, it would just been house on bare Back Mount oh our house on Bear Mountain bet r. And it's all like really cute, chubby Harry guys making love sensually. Sentially. Yeah, I'd be I Itu'd be very rohmatic because it's like, and I think that's the thing people, you know, I think the Bears need to take that back.

I'm seeing too many cubs that are like chiseled. It's like, you're not a cub, You're a You're an otter. Oh my, Uh well, we're not talking about anything queer on this episode, but uh, I don't think so. But maybe I misinterpreted the movie. On this episode of the Culture, guess we're gonna talking about nineteen sixty seven's place Er Sanriento, otherwise known as Beast of Flesh.

Yes, Chris, I loved how you said the original title because I feel like I feel like my southern accent comes out more. When I try to do foign words Pasia de sangriento, it sounds well, it stops done. De Askedes? Where are you at? Askedes?

Is myrtle? You just ordered the Planter number five? You didn't No title of film, it's uh the southern accent, welcome, thank you? Yes? No?

In all serious? This uh film from Emilio Vierias, who also directed. Actually pretty prolific director from Argentina. He's probably best known to the States for directing The Curious Doctor Hall. The two peas Nobody can save us but Chris and I literally dialed up are like a peace sign.

But this film is I mean, isn't okay? If I go into how I go for Yeah, please buy all me. I was gonna ask you beat me to it, go ride it? Oh well. I years ago Something Weird video which everyone hopefully listening no was in Loves and if you don't Welcome to the World of Something Reord video.

They had released a double feature of this with Night of the Bloody Apes, and it was part of a Beasts and I. We'll say it's like Beasts and Babes box set that I got and Night of the Bloody Apes definitely has more of a reputation and it's a markedly different film. And those two films actually did play grand houses and drive ends for real. It's a double double bill in theaters back in the day, back in the early seventies. And None of the Bloody Apes is a Mexican horror film that incorporates it's actually a lot of fun, but it is nutso it it incorporates actual footage of open heart surgery and organ transplants along with you have a subplot about Aluchadorra, which is amazing, and there's like a beast man and a father of venge try to save his son and women are getting murdered and raped and it's very sleazy and bloody and completely just off the chain, like everything you'd probably think of with greadhouse films as far as like nudity and violence.

Night of the Bloody Apes that's it. But I was like, what is the second feature, Feast of Flesh? And it is one hundred percent for and it's and I almost feel like maybe it's kind of lived in the shadows because of that, because it's such a you know, actually watching the Night of the Bloody Apes, it just doesn't make sense as a pairy like the two don't really have anything in common other than the fact that they originally both probably were recorded in Spanish Feasta Flesh when I when I first saw it, I was touched by how like beautiful the black and white cinematography is in this sense of sort of eeriness, and it's like it has a pull over it. There's like a weird melancolia that I've permeets the whole film, and I've then i'd never seen anything like it.

Now I haven't seen anything quite like it. I find it to be such a unique little treasure of a horror movie. And and so when you let me program, I was like, oh, I can't wait. It's a film I try to share with people and I don't really get to do I never talked about on podcasts before, but I was like, Ooh, I wonder what Chris will say, because I always love like obviously, I always love having your thoughts and how stuff hits you. I think it was so a couple of things.

Obviously I really enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it for the reasons that I think you probably wanted me to enjoyed it, and enjoyed it, enjoy it, but I also enjoyed it for just kind of the low budgetness of it, like the you know what I mean, like the low budgetness of it all. Like you, you, Heather Draine, I will heap some praise on you. You definitely push me to watch movies that I would not watch of a certain variety. And that variety is I mean I never, like I watched movies like Remote End Prehysteria, but I never saw subspecies because again, like those kinds of movies like for me, like it's not that I have any issue with low budget, but like for me, like I've never had someone to be like, these are the low budget things you should be checking out and like and like the and like low low budget indie however you want to perceive it like that, you know what I mean, Like there's a certain subsection of film that like I am more of a blind spot than others, and you and our esteemed friend mister Mike White seem to push me to be a better holistically film.

Uh. I wouldn't say crik because I don't like that term. No, we're not. I don't concept so like I don't know film writer, a film writer, a film connoisseur, a film locaster, I mean, a film podcaster. Like that's what it is, and that's what we are, and like it's its own thing because we get to speak a little bit longer about movies than someone might in a review.

I guess, depending on who's writing it. As if someone wants to go really really go for it, maybe it is an hour long thing you're reading. But I mean most film reviews that you're gonna read are gonna be like so this, this is an extended medium to talk about film. And you and Mike always pushed me to watch things that I wouldn't watch otherwise, which I appreciate. And I'm not saying someone who picks something else isn't, but it's things that would never have come across my radar otherwise.

And I appreciate that because that, for me, is something that they enjoy. I never say no, because for me, like to say no is to shut an opportunity to shut a door. And in my life, saying yes has gotten me further than saying no has he certain respects. I mean, you know, again, let's not let's not go all the way here. But so I just wanted to keep a little bit of praise on you, because I enjoyed this movie for what it is and the reasons you probably wanted me to enjoy it in similar reasons why you enjoy it.

But I also enjoyed it because it's the kind of thing that I would not have watched otherwise, but you brought it here, and now I've seen it, I'm like, yeah, this is this is like fucking bizarre and weird and fun. And that mask is way creepier than it has any right to be. Uh, And I mean it's probably the gloves for me, Like the mask is creepy, but the gloves are really like that, Like it's a little like the gloves are disgusting in a way that just looks like someone blued pubes onto a glove. And I know what, there's always it's like it's it's disturbing and it's upsetting and it's unsettling. It's all of those things all at once.

Yeah. No, this was fun. This was a fun movie. I definitely will say, like what it is is so weird that, like you said, like you've never seen anything like it, and like, yeah, I get that, because like I haven't either. It's like it's such a weird concept.

So the concept, best I can tell is guy is giving women, giving women heroin, and then the music that he plays makes them his zombie slaves. It's it's a hypnoter. It's sort of like he's he's combining, sort of hypnotizing, and it sort of I mean even though the women seem I mean, obviously if you're if you're having to hypnotize and drug people to have sex with you, that's not consensual, right, But it sounds like it's not explicit, Like we see it film. We see her tame. Yeah, we see it, but we don't like And actually, my one of my favorite things about this movie is gonna sound really crass, but the amount of like breast fake outs there are in this movie, like the creativity with which they hide the nudity, because like, there's no nudity in this movie, but they get closer than I think I've ever seen another movie get without explicitly showing because there's like a lot of weird there's a lot of weird creativity in this movie that they use to get around like showing bare bare breasted women.

I mean, that's the the amount of nudity I get is there is there bear, there's a little bit of nudity, but you have to Now I'm gonna sound even more. They gotta really bause in look and no, no, you can say it, but it's it is very subtle, and it's and kind of a certainly the most clear shot you get, at least a partially nude breast is the first the first body that you see right in the opening, and which is a really great grizzily looking makeup effect too, at the syringe jutting out and just and as a thing, like the cinematography in this is so gorgeous, like this is I I've often said, because I kind of hate it when I see nower people like newer filmmakers try and do something black and white and but not saying has that contrast to it, because they don't understand like to do black and white successfully, it has to be lit different, You have to do things differently than you would for color.

And you can't just put a black and white filter on it. No, Yeah, that doesn't work at all, Like like that was my problem with Like I remember, like if somebody at work showed me my day job. The trailer for that were Wolf by Night I was wondering if you were going to mention that, and and a lot of people mentioning an MCU thing, but I was like, I wonder if you're going to mention were Wolf at Night because it's like the only thing recently and you know, it didn't look like my thing, to be honest. But he showed it to me, says retro. Yeah, but that the black and white to me looked kind of like fake in the phone.

Yeah. It just yeah, pseudo force. I mean it's like it's it's it's cultivated nostalgia like or cultivated but without actually studying it right, Like I think that's the difference between that and say something like if you watch like The Hudsucker Proxy, Like that's a film where you could tell, like, you know what the Coen Brothers were making that and writing it. They had they were loving the nineteen thirty Screwball comedies and studied the whole patois and patois, I love saying that word pato like the snappy pattern of that dialogue. But but the black and white here is just so black and white when done right, it's so to me, just as rich and as beautiful as color, and like the blacks here like the black sky at night that all the night scenes look so inky and so just all you know, the beach side seems so lonely, and it just adds to this whole ambiance of just like there's this killer on the loose that is just leaving this trail and you have these young people that are having a good time, but there seems to be almost like this sort of like if we live or die, Like nobody seems deeply affected by the dats and it's it's like the club scene, like yeah, but it's almost sort of like that sense of like and you and this is a real thing where you know you're here about or like youth cultures and countries that are very oppressed or that have like not the highest life expectancy.

Sometimes the youth culture will be extra like daredevil and do crazy shit and not not because they're you know, necessarily inherently reckless, but it's almost like, whether consciously or subconsciously, you realize life isn't valued, right, And when you think about the fact that this is Argentina in sixty seven, where a dictator is in power and this and of course I'm blank gonna say, but but the dictator in question that was in you know, in power at that time in Argentina, UH purposely was trying to model his rain off of Franco. I'm not talking about Jeffs about Jazz Raco, you know. I mean, so you know that's you know, you're under a dictatorship and shit's gonna get Yeah. I won't get into the weeds here because honestly, I need to study more on Argentinian history.

I don't want to stell like a dumbyass. But you know, but you don't have to think study too much to realize, like every you know, certain films, UH are going to reflect. All films reflect the time period that they're in, and you know, and that is especially true, I think for you know, for lower budget film and but that which is why I think I love you know, so many of the best film kind of tend to be in because there's more of an authenticity. But but this film is so stylish. I mean it doesn't to me, it ever looks slow budget and I you know, and and of course I don't think that's a bad thing.

I've gotten into shot on video stuff recently. I mean, if you got heart, you got this and you know how to see what I mean, And that's what I'm talking about, Like you bring that energy to these kinds of things that like even I struggle with sometimes because like I don't know, Like again, like when I think about what I expect when you program things or the energy that you bring, Like I appreciate the energy that you bring because you really push into things that like, yeah, I would never have watched and like on vage like cheeses, what you're going for and like you're you're you're bringing light to things that need more love because like how many fucking people are talking about all them mainstream ship all the time.

Plenty of people. That's why it's mainstream. Oh thank you now and that and I meant to be to Really that means so much to me for you to say that, because that's that's something that is and I think has always been really important to me, whether especially in my writing, like in my nonfiction writing, but as well as like you know, the few which you're the you're you're you know you're giving me a chance to talk about yeah on program this month is especially exciting. But that's something I love that you do too, because you've turned me on to so many films. I mean, it looks like the Bollywood Cinema Club.

God, oh my god. I mean, I mean, I'll take I will take full credit for that one. I'll be like hell yeah, hell yeah, like fuck yeah. But that's the same thing, like you feel proud about it because it's like when not only did I introduce you to it, but like you like it too, like I love it? Are you kidding?

Oh my god? And but that's but you're right, that's what this is about and what we do. And that's so fun because to me, it's you know, especially for you know, for the listeners, it's like you know, and that's something you do and I both do, is say if you're listening, you know you guys are you're with us on this. You know we're not going to talk to you. We're not going to talk at you.

You know, we're talking with you. You are a part of this journey with us, and it's and it's always a pleasure to do that, and especially to talk about films like Feasta Flesh and I think it's such it's like a little noir gym with almost not slasher. But I mean it's obviously there's a killer kind of on the layers, and and you had this weird sort of like twisted sexuality that's kind of under the surface. Like because like you said, the film, if it it would barely get a PG thirteen. Right, yeah, it's tame.

It's tame. I mean there are more explicit PG films in the seventies than right, Yeah, so than this one plane has a airplane has a pair of breasts just jiggling in the center of the screen. But it's like the go to for me. But like all PG PG ratings are not created equals all the truth, seventies pg's were a different beast. Yeah, this movie is like PG really like yeah, oh seventies pgs it almost beg Yeah, so I have a question.

So this is this movie was like it seems to only be referred to as Feast of Flesh in that really something weird video release and when it was distributed by Films. So it's other title is The Deadly Organ, Yes, which I love, I love, I read for the Flesh honestly isn't is not the best title and it's not a direct translation. That's something blood but but now visa flesh makes it sell like a cannibal movie. Realistically, that's what I was expecting. Do you want me to be honest with you?

I was like, that's what this is, right like it. No, it's not a great title, but but compared to the Deadly Organ, it's a masterpiece. Because the Deadly Organ makes it sound like women are getting killed by a giant wang or something like. It sounds you said it, not me, and it's oh, you want to talking about misleading. I can only which I normally kind of love misleading hexterism with film, like because I've gone off, I don't.

I think I went off at our exploitation about the whole grindhouse like Hatter rating or like if guy, but just basically like what you know, theater owners would rate a film on how successful of how many times guys were spanking it into their hats. So the film was but this is a true thing, like it's in the book right House, which is an amazing book. But like at three hatters like box office bonanza, like the but you know, but then like two hatters, okay, we're still doing good. One hatter not great, not great? The no hatter is like not only are the hats not being used, but you have disgruntled customers because these are men hoping for you know, some jolly rogerick of the five handed writing, and they're just disappointed.

Those sauld to be my favorite, though, I'm it's like my antonin Artau, like a theater of cruelty makes since a here we're here, but you know, so it's where the Fista Flash was promoted like that when it's I mean, it's saucy, but that's I mean, it's very I mean, and even especially by sixties because by sixty seven you're getting in America, you're getting in roughy areas where the boundaries definitely getting pushed a lot more. Christ bost if it's more in a rape kind of way, because it's more like, you know, it's America. It's it was easier to kind of show something sexual in a pulp novel, you know, violent way that it is to have just you know, beautiful unfettered or euros. But but but that's kind of so many of these films from overseas especially, we're treated like that.

A lot of times they would just be titled and yeah, retitled and you know, and that's I mean, and that's actually kind of the same overseas. I mean, the most infamous example is the like in this in the seventies Massacre at Central High, the Renee Delder film, which is a brilliant, brilliant art house drama that was like a drive in film. But I mean, you watch it, it's it's no, it's it's definitely a lot more of the MEATSI And but when it was released in Italy, the Italian distributors retitled it Sexy Genes and they inserted hardcore, like badly inserted hardcore footage that are that is clearly not anybody in them. And if you've seen Massacre at Central High, if ever film did not warrant sexy jeans or sexual explicitness, it is that movie, like it's absurd but fascinating.

But yeah, with the with feasts of flash, you know, it's no wonder that maybe it never really has had the chance to get full sea legs, because it's really it's one. I don't know if maybe it's because though the fact that it's kind of been more of this graindhouse kind of arena. But it's not it's not sleazy, it's not gory, it's not exploitation. It's not sexploitation. It's just a little noir art house corror film under the guys.

Yeah right, it's like in greathouse clothing. But it's not that. But I that's the thing. There are a lot of film like that that kind of because of budgetary reasons or honestly sex cells too, like you get. I mean, a lot of art house directors, their early stuff would be retitled things and market in a way to work made it seem like it was very salacious.

I mean, like Ingmar Bergmann's film Monica in nineteen fifty three. When it came over here, it was like, you know, got this ooh la lah presentation it played that played grand house. So it's kind of fascinating in America just how like there were some films that were legit art house that are considered art house now that were played like they were equitation. Well, and that's I mean, that's the thing that's kind of hard with this movie is that it is not like because I looked at like the promotional material for it, it's like it's not even what it's being promoted as, like you said, like it's it is so it's just a noar movie. Yeah, Like it's just like it's not even like yeah, I'm not saying that like in a bad way, Like it's just a no war and if it had been, I don't know, Like but because it's got a guy in a man, I guess I guess slasher like I don't know, like a horror movie, like is it a slag again?

Like it kind of lives within some of those slasher tropes. I mean it's actually, oh god, I know it's overused now, but yeah, I mean it's it's honestly, it's like a proto Giallo because you have a gloved killer. It's a it's a murder mystery, and all Giollo is kind of about all of them, but typically kind of work like a murder mystery. It's sort of like Agatha Christie on strong psychedelics and speed, which is a beautiful thing. And I fully endorsed that creative plan, you know.

So it's and that's the thing, but it's very early in this era because yeah, you didn't really have that. I speaking of a I mentioned The Flesh Trill as the earlier earlier with Michael Finlay was one of my favorite directors ever, and those films are now out on Blu Ray via Vinegar Central and I've all the commentary tracks plug plug plug. But but no, I mean, but like with Michael stuff, like those films have a no war quality too. They're very much American. He's very much an o tour like.

But but those were totally like proto slashers to the point where you have like a serial slasher, like you have a series of horror films with the same villain, which was you know, not counting like old movie cereals or say Fritz Langis doctrine mabuse, which that isn't really slasher. But as far as serial villains generally see and so Visa, Fleish is kind of an interesting outlier in a similar way, I think because it is uh, you know, it's not really it's obviously not it's not Italian, it's not a proper ciallo, it's not really a slasher. But it is a horror movie, and it is a murder mystery. But what's more horrific than a murderer who's very prolific? Right?

Well, I mean again, I mean he's utilizing drugs to put people into a suggestive state and then murdering them. I mean that I think My issue is like I'm still kind of confused as to what was really going on because again, I think so much is left up to us, which is okay. Like again, like so much of this doesn't have to be explicit, and I think it benefits from not being explicit. But I mean our our minds fill in the gaps more in this movie, right, Like that's what I felt like, Like this movie doesn't the successes of this movie aren't necessarily all on screen. It's more just where it sets you as an audience.

Yeah, No, I love that, And that's such a great point. Now it's there puts the film where the film itself kind of makes you feel a little bit like you're one of the women that's being hypnotized by that that beautiful piece of music. Like I love the music in this film, and it's very it's very effectively eerie and kind of beautiful and and very it's very like exotica like anybody it's into like Martin Denny or less Baxter but kind of but less tropical and more like more just sort of like a Yeah, like a ghost is like a ghost is on the recording, Like literally it's it's got some kind of like etherealness about it that I love and and just this whole sort of thing of having this masked killer with this guy with a creepy mask and you know, those gloves, and yet these women are coming to him like there's there're intriots with them, like he is the ultimate.

Like I think one girl when she's under already under a spell called it like shouts out like he's a real man, and you know, she freaks out thinking that somebody could apprehend him, and oh and it's and it's so strange the fact that like we have different, different sort of potential killers presented throughout the whole film, you know, and red herrings galore, as any proper murder mystery will have. That There's there's a shot in this with the mask to man that I love so much. And it's like after one girl gets away, like our main girl, he punches the already cracked hearer with this fitness well looking at himself, and it always like that's a you know, that's a that you see sometimes in film, and it's kind of an immage I always love because it's like how do we how we react to our own image and our reflection.

It'd be so telling that can that can kind of know, you know, that could reflect what's going on internally very easily, and and it's like, yeah, he's frustrated that she got away, but it's also the fact that he's looking at himself. And this film already has this like kind of not slow quality but thought. It's a very thoughtful movie. Just it just sticks with me. And it's and yeah, you're kind of left wondering about the psychology of it.

And yeah, because the film doesn't tell you a whole lot. Part of that I call but wonder though, is like is this the full cut? Which is something you always have to want to reform films, you know, especially of this era. Unfortunately, and some of the dubbing is not you know, it's not bad, but it's not great. It's doable.

It's doable. I don't think it was fun, you know, like you know what I mean, like it like it was fun, Like I think the dubbing was the die enjoyed the dubbing because like the voices they got are very very over like over pronounce everything, and it's like and the oh the vernacular like oh that's rare y, Like yeah, it's very like, uh, not forced, but it's like, hello, my fellow kids like that. I'm sure, I'm sure this. I'm sure this sounded better pre translation because it's being translated from a language that is a romantic language, which tends to have words and phrases that don't have direct English translations. So you know, like I'm sure, like you said, like, is this the proper cut of the movie or is there you know, some of that's just literally being lost in the translation from the you know, from Spanish to English, like that's probably it's probably all of the above, because it does it does feel.

I mean, it's an hour and eighteen minutes, law, which is a really arbitrary amount of time, right, like you know what I mean, like an hour and eighteen minutes Like that's not that would not be considered a full length feature here in the state, that right, But it was then, I mean technically it was then, right, But like I think how I think we would say like an hour and twenty is pushing it, but most things are like an hour and Yeah. I think I think maybe more films should go back to being this short because I think, you know, not everything, you know, everything, every story merits its own pattern its own rhythm, its own approach. But to actual see films and you're like that could have been proved, you know, And when a film leaves you wondering in a way that's pleasant like this one does, because I think sometimes films sometimes you'll watch something and it'll be like, man, you could have no pun intended.

You could have flashed this, you could have you know, And actually watched a film that was like a short recently that left be frustrate because I was like, man, there's a lot of holes this film. To me, it leaves you wondering in a way that's kind of that is a little more fun and sort of gone. That says cheesy word you use, but I wasn't chanting because you kind of you know, you're like wow, like what did I just see? And you know, what is the story with some of these characters? Like you're given enough to know so it doesn't feel like the film's full of holes or anything, but you're given just enough, you know, and the rest is kind of like up to you and and who knows, I mean, there's not really I still want to I aspouch as I'm anti like oh spoilers, Like I almost hate this one Forrista Readza, which is so rare for me.

Do we want to? I mean I don't know, Like I don't know if spoiling it benefits anybody, and like you can find this on youte. Yeah, it's it's it's easy to find it, which is good because honestly, that DVD is out of print, and because I have the Bloody Apes has got to re release some blue ray through its different company now and I can't remember which one, but I need to upgrade. But uh, but be so flesh to my knowledge has it. And I really would love to see one of these.

There's so many great routine labels out like like Vinegar Syndrome or synaps, want of Macabro, you know, sever and so many that I would love to see them pick this up. And even better if we could find like a film print of with the original language. I don't know. I don't know what that would look like. I don't know what film preservation looks like, yo, And that culture is an Argentina nineteen sixty seven.

Argentinian film preservation is not a thing that you were eminently aware of. Yeah, I'm critty, what a shame. I'm sorry, I'm my reputation is through it. But I would love that this film, this film deserves I think it's I think it's such a little treasure. And you know when you get this, when you watch the thing that you can like, especially Chris, because you've watched a lot of movies, and over the years, especially since you've podcasted, you've seen a lot of movies.

You have definitely you see more and you definitely know more than the average bear to say the least, say the very very least, or the average or whatever you want. I love I say what you did, but I don't know what that was. But uh but but but when you're able to watch, you know, when here's somebody who's you know, who has watched a lot of movies, and you're even in that state, you see something that truly is like that feels fresh for you. How special is that feels like a gift? Right, like you really like like wow, like thank you, thank you Amelio Viara's forgiving us something that was so thoughtful and a lie.

And I've seen this movie multiple times since when I first watched it years ago, and it just still still strikes me, you know, so frush and I would love you know, and I think more and more about you know, the character of the mass man and that that amazing like beach side House, that he's just how he's always at night, and you know, and and the fact that we have these little ruises. It could be this young, good looking guy, could be this other guy that has anger issues with women and it's a little bit of a sex past. You know. It could be I'd love a doctor who's mourning his dead wife. And you know, it could be this so other you know, like we're giving a good masks of like, it could be somebody young and wild.

It could be a very respectable older me, and it could be this or that. And I loved it. I love that it gives you some good food for thought. It doesn't throw any unnecessary twists, and I think sometimes that, you know, a great twist is amazing. But there's sometimes, especially I think modern films, you'll see something where it's like there's so many twists that you're like, slow your role, Morvie, like, well it with the twist movie?

Yeah, Well it's it's like if it if it if it's inorganic to the whole film, and it takes you out of the whole film. Then something's that right, you know, Like that's the thing. As a filmmaker, You're you're creating a world that needs to be cope, a cetter. And I mean, if it's fucking crazy, then yeah, make it crazy, have fun with it, revel in it. But it's all got to all got to feel inherently part of that nature.

And you know this, And that's the thing this film. I feel like everything just feels everything just feels right in it. And we do, actually you mentioned earlier, we do have a little bit of It's it's never really expanded upon, but we do have a queer subtext because we have the character Blonde with the amazing stylish cut. Here's a lot with baby, our lead, our lead lady. Not not baby that because a baby from House one thousand corpses, God different baby, Oh that baby.

Though I know, I know this is where a lot of I get divided. A lot of people. Actually I do love I do love that movie. But it's okay, a lot of people do. It's off everybody.

That's cool. It's really not. It's cool. I get it, but but this baby used to flush baby. And the cool thing is, like, you know, the character I mean even though like, I don't think baby's ever gonna actually like make make an honest woman of her babies, Like seems fine with the advances, Like it's not it's not played as a joke.

It's not played you know, as oh this is creepy or whatever. It just seems just kind of like, yeah, she's part of the friend group and there are two there are two men of that group seen kind of coded gay a little bit. Yeah, there's one guy that definitely feels like three quarters of the way there. Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not explicit, but it's explicit as it could be in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, Hermie, the elf explicit.

We get it. You're different and you don't want to be a dentist. We get it. I coded gay, heer me, the elf is like beyond coded gay. Oh, like I never thought about it like that.

It's true though, I and yeah, I want to be an elf. I don't want to make toys. Okay, Okay, we get it. Yes, received, I don't want to make toys either. Point Like it's the movie, really, doesn't it.

You know, there are so many horror movies, especially as we the seventies would turn into the eighties that has this like weird morality of like sex will kill you and like don't don't have fun, don't have sex, don't used drugs, like like the Slashers of the eighties are weirdly reganistic, and they're discussed for the fighter things in life, which is sex and drugs and rock and roll and you know, free love and being yourself like those movies. For whatever reason, Like again just reflective of the times this movie, nobody gets punished for any of these things. I mean, I guess you could make the statement that the women are being punished because he's entrapping them with heroin, but it's never we never get the sense of why these women are going with this guy, Like it's never really made clear per se, So who or what or how he's plawing them is not clear.

So is it the drugs or what it? We don't know. So I like the the movie just again just leaves it there, like maybe he's just really charming. And then they get to his place and he puts the mask on as kind of a sex king, because again, like roaming the beach with that mask on, who in their right mind's gonna follow you? So like again, like they leave so much of it open that I appreciate that as supposed to be, like, well, get these characters having sex or using drugs, They're going to die because of it.

Like I don't need that every time I watch a horror movie, especially a slasher. Yeah. No, And that's and that's the thing I love. One of the many things obviously about the film is yeah, it's not it's not a morally judgmental film in any sort of way. I mean, and Spencer character is kind of close and he's kind of a child.

But again, I don't know how much of that is translation too. But as far as like the kids in the film's tone as a whole, now, I mean, if you know, the kids are kind of, you know, sort of lev today, don't worry about tomorrow. But you know, you're living in an oppressive government, you know, you know, what choice do you have? To some degree? You know, like what else?

You know, It's like, what is she gonna do? You're gonna just you know, lay down and die, you know, or are you gonna just try and celebrate and just enjoy what you can? But as far as the girls know, and I I love with horror. I love horror movies that don't spell out everything same and I get I actually get annoyed when when people yeah, when other especially like other like film people will we'll start overutilizing gosh, especially like with like say like George Ramiro, it's one of my favorite filmmakers, and yeah, Miro's Matt Maestro, utter game changer, and but people like overize like about especially like the zombie films, and it's like what happened to magic? What happened to just suspension of disbelieve, like you know, why do you need everything spilled out?

What? And also in real life, when do we ever have all the answers for anything in real life? Like to me, it's like, you know, art is a mirror, right a where is the mirror? And real life doesn't tell you everything? So why should a film tell you everything unless you're just so you have no imagination, like and you're fucking boring, Like I mean obviously not not you dar listens, but but we all know people that are just you know, it's almost and it just drives me crazy.

I'm like, how like the beauty of film or literature is when somebody's telling a story, they're telling Again, it's the whole thing I'm speaking with you, like, so in it's respect. If somebody respects you, you're not gonna tell you everything because they're gonna a you have intellectual curiosity or at least have a modicum of intelligence and see you know you're not boring, you know, have some adventure in your soul. I agree, I mean, I agree with you. I don't know, like I would rather watch something like this in this day and age than just rewatch. I mean, I've seen all the I mean, I've seen all the Slashers that I care to see, and like, I would rather just see something that's just it's kind of its own, weird little thing that exists in its own space.

And I mean again, I think the thing that's that's really smart about this movie is it doesn't explain anything at all. We don't even really get the characters like reacting who the to the reveal at the end of the movie that they just kind of are there, it happens, and then that's that, Like it's so like emotionally Kurt in a way that is like I would be curious to watch more Argentinian cinema to see if that's just like a cultural thing if it's like there's this weird because again, like it's not like the characters are emotionally detached. But at one point there's a woman on the beach being like assaulted and the guy is just run off very matter of fact, you know what I mean, Like he just runs off.

The other guy doesn't chase after him. The other guy is taking care of the woman, not worrying about the guy. And that's like, like it's kind of a bizarre way to do it, because like in American cinema, you would have like the guy chasing after the assailant and he just lets him leave and he's more it's like there's an a it's an emotion. It's a different emotional reaction. And I'm enjoyed it because again, like it's just it's very clearly made by people who are interpreting things that we could all interpret as like basic human reactions to things that just they seem to be doing it in a little bit different way, which I appreciate.

Again, international cinema, foreign cinema is always interesting just to see the cultural things that are different. I mean, again, watching enough of Indian cinema, you start to pick up on I mean picking up on the Indian things. I mean, you know, the usage of English stuff like that, Like those things show up from time to time. But like, yeah, it's there's a weird emotional reservedness to this that. Again, I wonder if it's just this movie and you know, Vieira's take on things, or is it Argentinian like culture because again, probably know even less than you do about Argentina other than you know, don't nobody cries for Argentina.

Oh god right, I like Evita. I mean we never had a chance to talk about it. Like I like the musical, like the not the movie because Madonna is not a good actress. Shocking, especially compared to Patty Lapone. Right, Like Patty Lapone is like a yes power fires storm.

Yeah, now I need to and I want to learn more about both Argentinian culture and cinema. The other Argentinian film that's not vi Era that I've seen is a film called Fuego, which also actually played kind of more of the Great House Circus over circuit over here. Oh it is a bit of a circus. And that star Isabelle Sorley, gorgeous, Like it's like Elizabeth Taylor and a russ Meyer girl had a baby like so so blah blah blah boom and she and you see the trailer sport and how it was promoted over here, and it's totally like, oh, she's a sexy, it's satiable, you know, wantson you watch the movie, the movies ress because she is. She is an informatic but it's like mental mentally is it's almost like sort of the reality.

Okay, it's not that depressed, but I mean, I haven't seen his nipomitia. I was thinking more Breaking the Waves, which is fair, it's is a lot, but but no, but it's but it's fascinating. It's a really fascinating film. And and again another instance of a film giving you something very different than what you're going into expend. But again, I like, I like that, and that's what and that's honestly, it's things like that that got me very much into when I was when I was younger, into like researching like grindhouse cinema and exploitations and ruffies, because it's because all of these little sub genres of cult film all have these little like sort of gems that nobody really talks about because they weren't they were presented in a respectable way.

And I hate that word, by the way, respectable to me, I I must feel like doing that like old woman spitting, Like like if somebody mentions the name of a rival, you know, just like except I've never spent in publics. It's gross. But but but that's I mean, but that's the truth. I mean are the art world is very classist and has been for very and all of it. And and that's the thing you're you're dealing with.

You're typically doing with genres of films that automatically they're low budget and they're not like big Hollywood productions, so they're already kind of ghettoized for lack of a better term, by these critics. And then on top of it, if it's sexy, even it's not because it's almost it's sexy, but it's promoted it's being sexy. It's kind of same with Waygo, Like Isabel Starlight is very sexy, but her character and that, and she's great in it, you end up just feeling really bad for but because the way it's promoted and you have you know, but that's saying even where films where the women are true wanton that few to exploitive to women and not necessarily in power, like oh wow, we get to see women having sexual agency, but that's offense.

But you could go watch a Hollywood film where what roles is a woman going to get mother horror, that's probably gonna get killed or crone, and that's it. That's it, and it's it's utter bullshit. I've always found, to me, Al Trece cinema to be is infinitely more inspirational as a not just as a you know, as a I guess as a female, but just as a person who's just you know, I think who feels like an outsider too. I'm with you almost like I don't know, like kind of reveling in it, like reveling being an outsider. I don't know, absolutely no owner Like that's the thing, like I just outsider drink.

I don't about outsiders. Is that taken yet? Is that taken? That should that should be cinematical? Yeah right here, right now, that's a right nobody's oldest idea or we want either we'll just cut this part out of the episode.

Oh no, no, no, who edits these? Not me? It's the intern in the intern's in my head. I disassociate for half an hour when I edit these, and that's the intern. Oh do you wear a hat?

Yeah? What I wear? Hats? Hat? Yeah?

I wear many hats in this business. You can be put on a pilgrim hat. This is my editing hat. That's the coolest hat of all. I love oppressing people.

Oh my god, well, I was thinking more like Richie Blackmore and deep purple. It is not so much like Pilgrims, not actual pilgrims, not literal pilgrims. That's fair, that's fair. Pilgrims really haven't been represented in pop culture a whole lot, have they. You like that tangent?

You go? Eli Ross is bringing it back with thanks Killing, a movie that I wanted to go see but didn't want to go spend money to go to the theater to see, but still want to see it because it's a Thanksgiving horror movie. You should boot like it that way. Ros doesn't any money. I don't want him to have a dime.

You need my money, I say, I say, I do fuelly encourage people to, you know, support physical media like are are are and artists that give you something different, like feast of flush. Support those people. Support the real ones that love you would have to do something different. Not the bros. They're gonna wipe their swiffery ball set take all over media, and you know, God only knows how much how they treat their If there's any diversity on that crew, that's another I'll say that for later.

But uh, share you bring left weeding liberal ideas into this moderate podcast, Heather. Yeah, but because honestly, if people think they're sexism for you know, sexism and homophobia for people in film world, as far as like podcasting and writing, it ain't nothing compared to being on the technical side of things, right, that's sorry? Yeah, because apparently the penis is prehensile. I could lift equipment Await, it can't unlessen be it. But if there is a man that can work in came with his dick.

I do want to see that, and sir, you could do that fucking all the way, Heather. I I hope to God nobody d ms you on Twitter. I can show you how to work. Oh God, yeah, what have I done? Please don't send in to me?

No, damn. I like that idea though this guy can. What's your talent? I can operate a camera, okay with my dick like he's saitting the I sew and everything just filter and he white ballace with his way. He's checking the filters.

Yeah, sure that's right. Oh my god, that's against the camera real hard. Oh. Also, you're gonna make I mean, if you got to get the thing to go. Actually, I don't recommend you know what, if you can't do it, don't do that because the callouses you can hurt.

You're gonna hurt your little soldier guys. You know. I will say, though, if so one is able to manipulate a camera with their cock, that's not going to be small. You said, little soldier. I'd like if the soldier.

Yeah, Like, in general, the manipulation of the camera might be one of your many talents, including but not limited to holding apples with it. For I'm sure I felt whatever right things like this. I'm always like, I hope that the spirit of Amilia Era because he's now he has moved on plate. I hope he he he. I'm surely he realizes my heart is pure and I love this film and I'm trying to praise him in his film.

But I also apparently in my trash goblin and have to talk about these things on podcasts me and Heather. That's that's why cinematic outsiders. That's all right. You take it to him, boys, take it to the like that song, take it into it was like Chicago, right, that's the due. There's like Michael McDonald bounded, he's actually a malium amlion dog.

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We're not gonna give you some winker you know, we're gonna tell you. We're gonna give you the the truth, the heart, the teeth, babies, the pisson vinegar. It's all right here, Yeah, I agree, and stuff like this. Like that's like I said, either like you, you bring like a certain level of like again, just like I do my own fucking thing. Like there are a few people in the world like you, and that is a good thank you, well and right back at you likewise, thank you.

I appreciate it. We're not horn tutors, but apparently we are. We're tutor horns. Tutor horns. I will so, you know, back back to Feasta Flesh for a moment.

The thing, the thing I will say about like the movie itself, and like you mentioned, like this idea of it being like its own thing, I've gotta I've gotta what you because now I keep thinking about it, like there's got to be another cut of this movie out there, right, It's so much of this feels so truncated, like right, and I mean I still I still feel like everything we're saying is is the truth? Like it still feels like you're li true of the film, but there are certain cuts that seem abrupts and Camilo and that's the thing. A Minio Viras is a very talented and very you know, like I said earlier, prolific filmmaker. This guy knew what he was doing right so, and this wasn't even his first film. And when you see it Brooke cuts.

That's the thing. If you see it films that you that you know have been kind of tampered with a little bit, you kind of get a good spidy sense. Wait a minute, like an hour and eighteen minutes, like yeah, yeah, exactly. And and it's weird too because you're you're used just seeing things like nudity or sex being the stuff that's censored. But if this film was promoted as heavily ordered, oh that's it's it's so He's a sexy movie though, like it's sexier than I think it maybe would have been if it had been made in the States.

Well. I love about the sexuality in this film is it's very almost languid, like it's very it seems very dreamy, but it feels very natural too, like it feels even like the weird hypnotic stuff with the monster, like the Masked Man, it feels you know, organic, like it doesn't feel overtly like you know, rip buff comes the top and close up of boobs or anything. It's not it does. This is not a film that plays out and to quote Henry Chanasky in obviousness, right, yeah, and you know you mentioned to not mention spoilers, but like I would say, like the reveal at the end, I think is I don't know, like I think it works, but I don't think I think it's the obvious choice. But I think that's okay to speak to your like lack of obviousness, but like, I think it's the obvious choice, but I think it works in terms of where the movie has kind of been going.

Yeah, well it also it also like if you think about it, because that well I'll spoil just a little bit. Is this so weird? I always am so anti this this movie just for some reasons. Bring this outary. But the killer is somebody who's a person power and we found out we find out midway that one of the victims is somebody that had been teaching her and there's no age given.

But if you think about implication, like how kind of dark and fucked up that is? Right, but it's fascinating, Like it's really just kind of like and that's the thing. This film gives you just enough little detail so where you if you stop and think about some of the implications and some of the personal details, you know, you're just like, wow, what you know, what is this universe? Like what is this can unity? And that's thing because it seems like a pretty small community.

I mean, the only the only actual real police presence we see is like the inspector that comes in by plane and you know, and then like sort of the main like lutant kind of sergeant who I think it's hard to tell because I am dB is not very helpful with this. I think Emilio is the look is the main like lieutenant, Like I think that's him. The director is in that. But I but that police me on that. But but that's it.

You know, we don't really see a lot of police presence. I think we might see one or two other guys at some point, but it's obviously a small town with this very amazingly swanky bar, which how great was that? I I but that bar, Like I miss architecture. Like I say that I wasn't even alive when architecture looked like this, but I miss it. I kind of like, I there's something about like that mid sixties sort of I don't know, just like lounge culture kind of with you.

I mean you like you like peaky bars and stuff like that, Like that'sh and I'm with you, like I don't know, Like that's the other thing. Like I might not be a huge fan of like early James Bond for some reasons, but other things I'm a huge fan of are just like that time and place and like the look of the bear and the dress and like this reminds me of that, just like if I don't know, Like I'm not saying people don't have it now, but you used to be able like it used to be you would go out and you had to look look at when you went out, like and that was the thing, Like it was a big deal. And like I'm not saying I miss it, but like I kind of do, because this was the bar and it was set pretty fucking high, like in terms of like movies and stuff like there was just a weird sense of unified style that isn't there now that like I really I'm with you.

I resonate with like Art Deco and oh my god, wow ge and like yeah, like Tiki, like all of those kind of like fifties and sixties like I'm I'm right there with you. Oh my god. It's so it's it's per perpetually enchanting, like it really it's just always and that music puts me in such a such a mood, like it's some I'm a huge fan of Martinetta, you mentioned it. I'm a huge fan of several vinyls. Oh my god, save yeah, like I'm a huge fan, like and that's the thing, like that there were things that this movie definitely scratched, like itches that it's scratched.

And again like the fact that it's an Argentinian movie is part of the charm for sure, like this time and place in this place of the world, especially like because in the in the United States, you would have had to have gone to more like locale specific places to get this style, like a Miami, but like with this it's like this is just it. It's everywhere. It's all encompassing and like I love key love that. Yeah, and I still like that these places are still like that they still have this architecture as well, Like my folks have gone to Argentina and other countries in South America and I've seen the pictures, like the architecture is still there, which is super crazy too. So yeah, I I low key no, I low key love.

I love these places in this time of in this time, you know, like in the sixties and seventies and fifties for sure. Yeah, no one thing. And gosh, before I forget to mention it that the dubbing does that I would bet dollars to donuts is not the original language. Is that the dubbing the inspector says San Manteo, and it's like, oh honey, I mean I think there's literally a map of Argentine in the in one of like the and it's all that's I mean, it's clearly not in the States. And it makes me so sad.

I mean I get it now. I get it for financial reasons, like, Okay, we're we're dubbing this and it's playing to American audiences, so we got to make it seem like it's in America so they gel with it. But it's also like that depresses me because it's like, God, our you know, you know, answer the question you didn't ask initially. Yeah, Like are people just so babied where it's like, oh, I can't identify with it if they're not American. I don't think most people.

I don't think most Americans are that stupid. I do think some are, but I think the ones that would be that centrist aren't going to go out of their way to watch a movie like this anyways, or find it on something weird video, yeah, or even on YouTube. Like if you're looking up on YouTube, you're already knowing, you already have a seat in you of like, ooh, this is cool, you know, like, yeah, you're wanting to see something different, you're not just like I don't know, it's just it just seems so bizarre to me to be like that. There's me. The whole point of watching watching a movie, or reading a book is is to see something that you know or read something that's different that gives me, you know, I don't want to just see, you know, like a movie about a place that I live like that, Oh that's just like my hometown.

That's boring. I live here. I don't want to see something, but I want to explore, you know, I want to. I want to you know, you know, if I can't travel physically, let me travel, you know, creatively. That's why we've never made our Southern horr Gothic ethic.

Oh god, we should, we should make it Friede Justice chick flick. Do we have wings Hauser and oh my god, the b of Boz's it's a stone Cold reunion with stone Cold. Oh and we gotta have William Forsath Forsythe too, can we? I have to do quick detur because you said some cold And my favorite line from that movie that Hendrix sent it I I feel because you know, like he improve a lot of his lines in that because him and by him Blamforesyth were like, the script is terrible, so we're just gonna fuck it and have fun with it because I'm sorry. Lance Hendrickson is one of the greatest the actor ever him and it's almost William Forsythe for the record, like he's a really underrated actor.

But there's a line that Erickson says. It says, this is either gonna be the biggest pork chop I ever eat, pause, smile, or my bulldozer. What what what's the cipher of a human Beingandrison I had, I had the joy and pleasure of speaking with him a long time ago, and he made he made his distaste of the crypt Keeper from Tales from the Crypt Puppet. He made his distaste of that puppet and puppetry in general. Non.

Holy, it was really wild. It's like, I really don't like puppets. It's like, but I really love pottery. He's like, I could just do my pottery all day. I was like, okay, oh my god, I you know, and I love I love puppets.

But Lance Henricks and hating puppets kind of delights my heart for some reason. It just makes me love him even more. I'm with you. Oh my god, what a man? What a what a minch?

Yes, but okay, I even like this movie. No, no's no puppets in this movie. Exactly. There's a mask. I think he'd be okay with the mask though, a mask lit from below quite frequently.

Oh that lighting. That's the other thing. The lighting in this movie. Like that's like you said, they have to know how to light it correct exactly. I mean I think this film is also proof too that you don't again, because Chris, it's so funny when you mentioned the low budget thing.

I never even stopped to think about the budget with this film because I was just instantly enchanted and always have been with and and buy us will like make it a drinking game. I think upset a chance like eight, it's a But then the next episode of the Culture Cast, we're gonna be talking about the twenty fourteen film Enchanceship. Yeah, that's you're laying the seed work for that, yes, but but no, but it is low budget. You're right and that, but I never think about it. But this has proved to like, especially in the inspiring filmmakers, you don't need a ton of money, right if you, if you, if you have a little bit of technical know how and a vision and a love for like being able to present something in a different way that money can't buy.

That money can't buy great storytelling either, right yeah, Because how many of us have seen films that had enough that were made with enough money to legit feed an entire country of starving people. And yet you're like, it's like a like a like a like a like a flirt in the winds. And yet and yet Disney has stopped reporting on the weakened grosses of a movie that came out two weeks ago. Is that we were talking about? Yeah about that?

Disney is Disney stopped reporting on how much money were stopped reporting how much money the Marvels was making because it has been a bomb and it was probably like a two hundred million dollar movie. So oh, it's crazy. It's crazy. There's nothing, nothing, especially a film should cost that much. A cure for cancer, fine, cure for aids.

Absolutely, amrvie should not cost him with free Larsen, I like the cheese, but wow, I honestly, I don't know if I could pick her out of a lineup. I'm not trying to hate she would. She would tell you to pick her out of a lineup because she would start being mean to you. Oh well, fuck her. She just has like a very like weird energy to her.

I don't I don't even know this one, but I'm like, fucker, she says weird. I'm just gonna think over in the corner with Lance Rickson and his pottery that's right, and his hatred of puppetry, I would, honestly, I would. I would pay him to hear him Brandon Books. I don't know it would delight me. That's in the interview.

I mean I left it in there because I was like, this is what so christ Magic, I just listen. I just listened to what he said and reacted. I was like, okay, sure that was like I don't live been podcasting for like a year a moment like any yeah, I think we had probably met by that. By that point, I think maybe, yeah, we probably in that because you and I worked together like pretty early on in this journey, in this journey into the mind that is podcasting dance. Right, So, so, Heather, anything else you want to talk about with plus Air Sung Griento.

I feel like cle've covered. I mean, this film is it's short, it's sweet, it's unforgettable, and a lot free on YouTube. And it's free on YouTube, which I mean I normally would try to steer people towards buying it, but to the best of my knowledge is out of secondhand eBay and their places, which is reliable free on YouTube is a better option well, and especially because some of the sellers out there, like over Over It's like, okay, some of the stuff was selling in but best By still was cool and we're going to to buy movies, which is a long time to cover at this point, you know this, Yeah there are copies, like people up charge when they don't need to. Yeah, so yeah, I guess have final thoughts on the movie.

I think it's brilliant. If you love if you if you love horror and you love mystery, and you want to see something that is beautiful, chewy, but in a very unexpected way. It gives you a story and a visual presentation that's different, and you're especially because maybe you're jaded, maybe you're tired of a lot of stuff you've been seeing it in board watch this film, seek it out is it's a rewarding journey and you know what it's It's not even like Chris Satte. It's an hour and eighteen minutes. So even if you know it's not going to take up how much of your time?

And like everything that I recommend, even if you don't like it, I don't think it'll bore you. So yeah, I would agree. I think being bored was the last thing that I thought would be going on in this movie. I mean it's it's it's all over the place in a good way in terms of like what it's doing. It's not your average whatever horror movie, noir movies.

Again, like to call it one of those might be to do the movie itself a disservice really, because it's so many weird things and it's kind of its own thing. And I kind of love things that are their own things, because I am my own things are as are you, so you know, and I think that we as people tend to gravitate towards things that we find to be like a weird little thing, and it is a weird, little fun movie that like, again, the mask is way creepier than it has any right to be, and the movie is way better shot than a movie that's just sitting out on YouTube from sixty seven has any right. Yeah, it's this is a fun one. It's a good way to start the month. I think if you are not knowing what to expect from a month that Heather Drain is programming, this will give you a pretty good idea of what to expect.

And so yeah, on the on that note, we'll take a break and we'll play preview and some ads for the next episode. Just moments from San Francisco based maximum security sand Quentin Assive manhunt towards the apprehension of escaped federal prisoners Odessa and Kyle James. Convicted killers Kyle and Odessa James are out amongst the rain. Love not He's got that whole OJ thing going for him. Totally guilty, totally cute.

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I'll see you know, Odessa the James game boy par It's an accept and sold separate. On the next episode of The Culture Guys, we're gonna be talking about a film called Killers that I know nothing about, which I think is probably the right way to go into it. Uh, and it is not the movie from a couple of years ago titled Killers, because I think there's another movie with like the same name, though there is. This is the Night nineteen ninety six Killers diructed by Mike Mendez. It was his first feature.

And we're gonna have a lot of fun. Yeah, we're gonna be joined by Heather and Father Malone and Spencer Parsons who have you ever? Have you ever podcast with with your old Spencer? Yes? Yes, Spencer's great.

He's a cool dude. He's a film professor for for those of you who do not know at Northwestern. So that's fun. It's gonna be a good episode. We're gonna be talking probably rather educational, mind did probably given it'll be a little high brow, maybe a little bit more high brow than normal, I don't know.

Spencer brings a high browed nature to things that only those who are in academia will be wearing our ascot exactly. Well, well, if you're wearing your asscot, can I can I just be scrappy Do? You're better than scrappy? I love scrappy Do. You're a bit your way better?

Okay? Can I be Melvin do care? I don't know. There are plenty of Scooby Doo like family member getting right? Why not?

Are you sure you're welcome? Il Jaco? You Scooby Doo. I don't trot that one out Offtim, This was something. Oh my god.

So when you're not here making me laugh and at a good time, where can people find all of the awesome things that you were Come over to my linktree dot com forward slash monto Heather. There you will find links to save my website mondoheather dot com, my patreon, Monto Heather, my Twitter are various articles for podcasts. I am, of course, one of the great noise jockies, which is on the Wording Way Media. In fact, we just did an episode about our favorite spoken word albums and uh little spoiler on that it's not what you think. Check it out.

It is deep cut bonanza. Also, speaking of music, by the time this ghost live. Over on Modern Heather, you will see an article I have written about a great EP but that's called cat Saluted by the band Lascia. It's very melancholy, very layered, actually not unlike fasta Flesh. So yeah, so check all that out lanktree dot com or a slash Bondo Heather A nice for me.

You can find me over at Weirdingwaymedia dot com, where everything that I work on is found. I don't work on everything, but everything I work on can be found there. I don't want to take credit for everything because there is not enough time in the day to be complicit in all of those actions, So somebody else must be making those podcasts up. But the ones that I'm on are varied in what they're talking about. This scary Stories, we tell, Life and Times Captain Barney Miller Colombo all at Bollywood Cinema Club, which Heather joins me on frequently.

So that's where you can find me. As for this show, culturecast dot com, Patreon dot com, slash Culturecast ten, twenty and fifty and if you get it at the ten dollars level right now, starting next year, so I guess starting next year you'll be able to hear me and Mike White and Richard had him talk all about James Bond more than you would ever want to hear three people talk about James. In our follow up series, to Rank It on Bass deptlely titled Ranking on Bond, a title so obvious. I didn't think of it until we were recording the fucking intro. So yeah, so that's where you can go to find the things that I work on.

And uh yeah, Heather, thank you so much for joining me. I look forward to every episode this month. Yes, thank you, it's my pleasure and as always, we'll catch you on the next episode.