KCxTPB: Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F

We wait and what's old is new? Because yeah, man, what we're talking I guess what's funny is the first one of these movies came out before I was born, and then the third one would have come out when I was four years old, and now the fourth one has come out when I'm thirty four years old. Jesus Christ, you know the world waited for thirty years for Beverly Hills Cop four and what did we get? Yeah, I'm gonna bury the lead here and just say I think we got a better movie than anyone, including anyone making the movie probably thought that they deserved to make because uh, yeah, I'm I'm here talking about Beverly Hills Cop Axel F not not four, because why would we do that? Why would we do something so obvious?

But we take even the A from Axel and turn it into the number four or something? Right? Why do anything like people have done before? But on this very special crossover episode of the Culture Cast of The Projection Booth, I am one of your hosts, Christasue. I am joined by the aforementioned host of the Projection Booth, Mike White, Howdy Hey, and our dear friend all the way from Dark destinations and more more apropos I think as his weekly show now chugs along midnight viewing our friend Father Malone, I'd just like to point out that there's a billboard in this movie that says Syphilius eruption boy, isn't there?

Uh Yeah, if you don't know what we're talking about, we're gonna be talking about the latest Beverly Hills cop movie, not titled Beverly Hills Cop four, but titled Beverly Hills Cop colon axel F. I almost admire you still on these streets, run and then cut it. I'm just amazing. Doesn't get to you so hard you can't chuck rotch your ash out there. Okay, I'm gonna be fine.

They love me at Beverly Hills. Zac to Foley, you ever read your own five shootouts started the piece a lot. Please tell me you didn't get arrested again twice. But I broke out. Put our lives on the line every day, and for what comes with the job if you're doing it right.

Yeah. So, how many people have you pissed off so far? I haven't pissed off anybody. Yeah, fifty to fifty fifty isn't that high so far so. The film is directed by Mark Malloy, based on a screenplay by Will Beale, Tom Gormikin and Kevin Etton, and it is based on the characters that have been established in the previous three Beverly Hills cop movies, and it does star once again Eddie Murphy as the titular axel f.

Joseph Gordon Levitt is in this movie. Judge Reinhold is there, John Ashton, Paul Rezer Bronson, Pinchot Taylor Page shows up as Eddie Murphy's daughter because hey, it's a family affair now, as they would say, and yeah, we're gonna be spoiling the movie. So if you haven't seen it yet, they're the only place to watch it is on streaming services, which I love now I realized if you guys see it, when they show previous for movies on streaming, it just says new movie, and then the date it doesn't say in theaters. It just says new movie July seventh, Like, oh, okay, it doesn't seem as exciting as in theaters, but you know that's fine, and yeah, we'll be spoiling the movie. So if you haven't seen it, watch it on Netflix, and come back and join us.

So, Mike, I'm gonna kick it to you. First. Thoughts on the original films excitement surrounding this film Maybe, I mean, this movie was just dropped on Netflix like so many things are now. But thoughts on the original and the requil I absolutely love the original. I grew up watching it.

It was before you could really I guess you could buy VHS tapes back then, but it was maybe somebody taped it off of cable or had the technology. We have the technology we think we can copy from one tape player to the other tape. But somehow my dad with a copy of Beverly Hills cop and I watched the shit out of it. I just really enjoyed that movie. I really enjoyed the second movie as well.

I imagine if I go back and rewatch it again. Because we covered this for the Projection with a few years ago, I think I was a little less hot on it. And when I did that episode, that was the first time I ever saw the third one because I had been told for years to stay away from it, and for a good reason, so there was no excitement for me around Axel f I knew that they had been talking about doing a fourth Beverly Hills cop pretty much since the third one came out Thirty Trips around the Sun. As you say, all of our top scientists are working on it, and they actually came up with something that I thought was pretty darn decent. I really enjoyed this movie.

I had a good time with it. I know my wife did not. She was just like, ugh, can we watch the Great British Baking Show instead? We haven't seen the last few seasons. Wow, you passed that up for this.

I yeah, but I really wanted to watch this. I knew we were recording about it, so I figured it'd be nice if I actually watched the movie before I showed up on the show, to just kind of wing it through there. But yeah, I thought that the lip service that they paid to the previous films was pretty earn good. And I actually liked that it was his daughter rather than a fall love interest, because the full love interest never really were love interests. It was like his friend in the first one.

I can't remember the third one, like what the female relationship was like in that it felt like maybe they were supposed to be boyfriend girlfriend at the end of the movie, but it didn't make a lot of sense. But this one having his daughter, I thought made more sense. Yeah, some of that pathos is a little tough to get through. And Taylor Page, I'm not really familiar with her too much, but I'll tell you she's got the best What the fuck did you just say to me? Face?

Of all people? Like even her IMDb profile photo feels like somebody just said something inappropriate to her and she's about to come at them. I speak only for myself here and saying I do wish you had showed up and just started talking about the Great British Bakeoff. Just no soulda completely just gone on for like five minutes and at the end of it just been like, what the fuck, Mike, He got a handshake for the showstopper, What the hell? And he didn't cry?

Are you talking about the Great Pottery Throwdown? Where the host of that cries every episode? I love that guy more than how he just give me, give me a go. He cried in that first episode and I was like, Oh, this is really special. Then he cried in every subsequent episode, so it doesn't It's not a thing as much.

Okay, can't do that bottom alone. Tell us your thoughts on the Beverly Hills Cop of it all. Uh, you know, I saw the original in the movie at the movies. Uh, my grandmother took me to see at Beverly Hills Cop. She was a big Eddie Murphy fan.

And come on, Sunny, let's go see the new Beverly Hills Cop movie. I hear Eddie Murphy's very fine, grandma keeping it fucking real, I commented her house he'd play Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy. What the god damn? Remember what Red Fox said, you gotta wash your house? Yeah, holy shit, she loved she loved Red Fox.

I've told this story on the other podcasts. But my, my, my grandmother went to see Beverly Hills Cop too without me, And when I asked her how it was, she said, why won't they just let Eddie be Eddie. She's one of my fondest memories of her anyway, So she was a lady. Yeah, and I agree with her in an Assessment part two, because I love Beverly Hills Cop and I had it on videotape. It was in the big old fucking clamshells.

Paramount always stuck him in the clamshells, uh, And it was the photo of him just with the gun, which is great as a poster. So I love that first one. The second one came out and I had zero interest in seeing it, just because it looked too slick and it looked too sequelized, like what we expected of a sequel at the time, just amped up. And I love Tony Scott and everything, but you know, sometimes it's a bit much. When I did see Part three in the theater because Landis directed it, and oh man, I regret it to this day.

I wish I had never seen it. So when they start this movie and Mike you were saying like, at the end of three, could that have been his girlfriend? I was like, I completely blotted out parts two and three, and this is just the sequel to Beverly Hills cop. I don't think that retcon's anything necessarily, but like you, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I found the story of Axel and his daughter to be actually really affecting, and I thought a really great avenue to take that character down.

It's the other sort of eighties stuff slapped on top of it. The end of it gets a little eighties of it all. I was enjoying it for up to a point, and I was enjoying some of the music cues coming back and stuff, but there's way too many of them. But I think, look, I think the climax is just ridiculous and and sort of made me not like the movie. But ultimately I enjoyed it, like overall, like all the performances, everyone made me happy.

I was made happy more than more than not in the viewering of this movie. And how about you, Chris, So, I had only seen the first two. I had stayed away from the third one for all of the reasons afore mentioned, because it sounds terrible, and then I've heard it's not good. So I sometimes I don't choose to go out of my way to watch bad things just to reinforce that they are in fact bad, And they do mention it in this movie at least once, just kind of like and then in nineteen ninety four, the less said about that the better, like yeah, fuck, you're fucking right, the less said about it the better. Clearly I enjoyed the first one when I watched it, I mean again, like it's watching it at a time and a place when I did, which would have been, like in the last ten years, very different from watching it when originally came out for a whole host of reasons.

I mean, Eddie Murphy. Now, for people my age is not Eddie Murphy saying faggot. Okay, it's just that's just that's just not Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is. I mean, I dare to say that Eddie Murphy.

I think for people my age is known for his work as Donkey and Shrek. I mean, I'm like pretty sure for a lot of people. I mean I like Eddie Murphy a lot in a lot of his live action stuff. And look, this is going to come as this might seem like a joke to some people. I actually really like that Haunted Mansion movie that he was in in the early two thousands.

I think he's actually pretty good in it. I don't know if I ever buy Eddie Murphy as like a family man. I find it very hard to believe. I think that it's to your point, father, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm sure he does. I'm more speaking to the idea of like the energy that he brings, and you mentioned it, father, Milone pretty aptly, like, I think the way that they do it in this movie with his character is the right way to do it with Eddie Murphy as an actor, which is kind of just like a loof dickhead father who has to you know, learn a lesson by the end of the movie, and he does in a very heartwarming moment.

But you know, I understand the appeal of this franchise originally, and I enjoyed this movie a lot more than I think I had any expectation going into it that I would. I think that, you know, again, it just being on Netflix in July of twenty twenty four, when people were clamoring for it probably throughout the fucking nineties. For it to now just come out, it's so the bizarre to me that these things happen this way, that people were waiting for so long, and now it's just it's and you know, next week it won't even matter. But I don't know, I'm I'm interested to see if they do more with it. I think that there is a place in the world for stuff like this.

Still, I think that this movie is in a lot of ways the right way to do it, which is bring the character into the modern day and give him modern problems as it were that people his age would be having, which is, you know, unable to get along in the world the way it's changed. And having a child that resents you for the way that you are and the way that you are is something that in the first three movies the character was being kind of celebrated for, and now it's like you're past your prime, bullet turn in your badge, like oh Jesus Christ. But like it works here in the context of what the movie's doing, and the fact that we get Judge Reinhold and John Ashton back, I think is for me the best part of the movie is the positives that come back from the original movies.

But I went into this having no idea what to expect other than it's a legacy sequel coming out thirty years after the fact, and I don't know. I would put it up there with some of the better versions of these kinds of movies we've seen since they started doing these kinds of movies, which I think is really the glut of them started, what do we want to say, like ten ten years ago, ten fifteen years ago. Now the requel became a thing where they reboot the movies, but they don't really reboot them, but it's a sequel at the same time. I don't know. I enjoyed it, but I don't think.

I don't I guess I don't think that people my age are going to be flocking to see this movie. I guess I wonder who this is for. Ultimately is the big question that I asked right for y'all, which is good because, like I think, for y'all, it's working, and I hope that people my age check it out because I think it's I think it still has some fun beats in it. Is it is you know, over the top? Is that new bad Boys movie?

Probably not, but it's not trying to be even though they're kind of doing the same thing. Ultimately, well, Beverly Hills Cop walked so that boys could run. I believe. I don't think there would be a bad voice without by the Beverly Hills Cop. But yeah, they seem to know their audience and they seem to know how to pay some movie pretty well.

Having three major chase set pieces in this film, one with the garbage truck, one with that little traffic trolley whatever you want to call it, that day, and then the third with the helicopter. I thought all of those worked really well, and it was just that kind of how are we going to amp this action up type of thing, And I think putting him in that little trolley thing was pretty dark funny because it just didn't look like it would go very fast at all. And then having Joseph Gordon Levitt have his PTSD and not be able to fly the helicopter, I thought that was a nice twist as well, because you would expect like, oh, yeah, I know how to do this and just gets in there and flies off, but instead literally crashes the helicopter right there where Shooter McGavin is practicing golf.

I thought that was really nice. Christopher McDonald just there for no discernible fucking reason, frankly, and doesn't one follow the other, like what the fuck is happening? Oh never mind, right, well, it's here for McDonald do whatever you want. Right. Here's the other thing I want to point out, and again like there's a universe where we don't have to point this out.

But we got a final Indiana Jones film last year which featured a similar value proposition, which is an aged movie star comes back to the franchise that for a lot of people made him very popular, if not immensely famous and wealthy. And is he actually showing up or is he just phoning it in? And look, Harrison Ford is what probably Jesus Christ twenty years older than Eddie Murphy, I've got to assume at least ten, probably fifteen, but maybe twenty. So we can't expect him to do the things that Eddie Murphy is being asked to do in this movie. But I don't think Eddie Murvie is being asked to do that much, which we you know, it's three set pieces in cars, which I mean is kind of what fucking Indiana Jones was.

There was a lot of vehicular chases in that movie too. But this is how you do it cabage, right, exactly, But this is how you do it entertaining, and this is how you actually do it in an interesting way, which is keep cutting back to the cab of the vehicle and have an interesting back and forth going on between the characters, not just showing a CGI bullshit action and just hanging it on that. Because while this movie does have a fair amount of CGI, I can also tell that most a lot of this is also being practically done as well. Well. The heavy lifting for this movie has to be on Murphy's shoulders and to be his riffing and his whole like the way that he bluffs people, the way that he comes in and just starts lined to people, and I like that that isn't one hundred percent successful.

That his daughter actually pulls his fat out of the fire at least once, if not twice, which I thought was kind of nice that she's able to pick up on that as well. But yeah, it's so much of it is him being slick and talking his way into and out of situations, and that hasn't changed. I think that that is where this movie really shines, and that's where we see Eddie Murphy very engaged in this thing. And that was the thing with Indiana Jones. It felt like Harrison Ford was just like, fuck, what I gotta do to get a paycheck.

I don't give a shit about this, whereas it felt like Eddie was very passionate about this. I really felt that he was invested in this, felt in Indiana Jones. I don't blame Harrison for it at all, because at that point, Indiana Jones is that guy he is disinterested in the world and doesn't want any part of it, even though he's being pulled through the action. The problem is the action and the script and the way it's shot. It's just fucking awful.

And I think what happened here is movies like that were coming out trying to trade on gen x nostalgia for things they loved in their youth. So there's kind of a low bar set when you can't do Indiana Jones well at all. So in that regard, this movie succeeds. It should succeed just on that surface level. But I think it I think it accomplishes more than that.

I think it's a smarter script. I think everything's more engaged. And the other thing is, you know, the action in the Indiana Jones movies is not in any way commensurate to the action and anything that went on in the Beverly Hill Stop movies. It is all vehicular. So it's easier to maintain that that sort of same uh level of reality that the that that that series had created because we could always cut to Eddie Murphy in the behind the wheel of a car.

So and the fact is, I think a lot of this was practical, wasn't it. The helicopter. A lot of that helicopter stuff had to be real. Man, to watch the helicopter, like spinning around outside the Beverly Hills City Hall was actually kind of harrowing to watch. Yeah, I appreciated all the practical vehicle effects.

I mean, look, I don't think it's also a surprise that a franchise like Fast and the Furious is so popular because again, like it makes something like this feel like a little bit of a layup right in in a lot of ways, like, oh, those are still in. The stuff that Indiana Jones was doing isn't necessarily in anymore if it was ever in outside of it just being in for Indiana Jones's sake. You know those bad voice directors, the once who did the last one that was actually really well directed, Like I don't know, oh yeah, I've heard it. I heard as much. Yeah, those guys their dream was to come to America and make a Beverly Hills cop movie.

So I kind of wish that they had let them because I think this the direction here is very in the mold of Martin Brest. But you know, through that Bruckheimer Lens so it's kind of good, you know what I mean, It's good enough, like the practicality of it sells it more than the actual like filmmaking there. I want to see those guys make the next one. Yeah. The aerial coordinator for this one was Frederick North, who I had the pleasures beating with last year.

He had a new book called Flying Sideways come out, and yeah, he takes a lot of pride in practical effects and practical aerial feats, and yeah, I was very excited when I saw that he was working on this movie, because yeah, those seemed very very real, And even when it came to that little police thing, I think that that worked so much better than the tuck Tuck chase that was in Indiana Jones, because remember they let that thing go on for too long, and all of the action scenes in this are pretty tight. I would say the longest action sequence is probably the snowplowd chase at the beginning, but that's there to set the stage so much of how reckless he is, that he is so in danger of losing his job, also reuniting him with Jeffrey, the Paul Reiser character, which was nice to see him back in this because I really like Jeffrey in the first movie, especially his whole when he's there and Gil Hill is yelling at him and he's like, this is not my locker.

That's one of my favorite lines from the first movie. So it's good to bring him back. And I don't feel like those kind of things are that nostalgia bait that fan serve that we hear so much about when it comes to these newer films. Yeah, having Judge Ryan Hold and John Ashton in here could be seen as that, but I don't feel like it is. I think the only time that they get in danger of that is when they bring back Surge, And I guess that's just because Serge is such a popular character question Mark.

I remember liking in the first movie, but when he showed up in two and definitely in three, he didn't need to be there at all. Get Surge out of there. I I'm glad that Judge Ryan Hold and John Ashton didn't show up in the in the third act. You know, Oh they're here, you know, like in the Ghostbusters. Oh it's just yeah, you talk about when the ghost of Ronnie Talk shows up and he is there with the gut.

Yeah, it's just I mean, that's that's what I expect for fan service at this point is like the lowest of low hanging through where it's like, oh, they're gonna they're gonna expect it. In the final frame of exorsis believer Linda Blair is gonna show up, so we're gonna do it, like, ugh, it's so lazy. We see it coming from a mile away, and this movie doesn't do it. They actually integrate those characters into the plot and the proceedings of the movie rather well. Yeah, Bronson Pinchot is the only one who's kind of sticking out like a sore thumb.

You could excize his entire his entire scene from the movie, the moment they meet him to the moment that they leave that house that he's trying to get them into. So Eddie Murphy could just go next door, look at something and go I know things now, it's like, uh the wait, wait wait. Nasine Paedrod is the real estate agent in that scene. In every line of every line, meeting of hers made me laugh. So she's funny, she is.

I agree that Bronson Pinchow has turned that If you watch the first Beverly Hills Cop movie. The reason that character works it is just because it seems like it's that guy. He's just this weirdo, like you know, and here it's so effected that it drags the scene down. But Nasceine Paedrad is fucking hitting it and hitting it. She is.

Yeah, it's it's unfortunate because she's great. But Bronson Pinchot is just kind of like doing He's It's like he saw the first movie and is trying to do an impersonation of himself. Flight. Yeah. Man, he barely speaks and the accent just has gotten worse over the years.

I'm not sure exactly how that happens, more and more affected somehow. Yeah, And it was interesting though to that line, because you know, the whole series, or at least the first movie especially, is that whole fish out of Water thing and the whole idea of him coming to this ritzy world and we get that montage of him driving in in that crappy blue Chevy Nova no sorry, crappy Ford Explorer and all of the people that he sees and he's laughing at and everything. That's that's fun. But I tid like when he gets arrested. I think it's his own daughter who's arresting him.

And she's like, yep, you know, hands up kind of thing. And he's like, uh, let's say, like, I've been a cop for thirty years, I've been black on my life. I'm not about to know how this goes. Yeah, And I was just like, oh, that's nice. That is really nice that they can directly address that but keep it light and funny and not have it turn around into you know, this is a post Rodney King world that we're in and post George Floyd world that we're in.

So I mean, god, I could sit here for an hour and list off all the all the African American men and women who have been unjustly killed by police. But I'm glad that that's there and not hit me over the head with it. You're saying that you like, our movie is woke, is what you're saying. You wo the woke. Keep woking this out of our movies, Mike.

Yeah, we have to keep walking aside of the movies because it's driving the kids insane. That's why they're they're picking all these weird like pronouns and Jaron's and infinitives. They're splitting their infinitives these days do have split infinitives. Oh the worst. Yeah, I think it's called the Prince Albert Father Milone, you were going to say something that wasn't about a penis being pierced.

No, I have no idea what it was. Now, so continued, let's talk about wokeness. Well, I well, you know, in terms of this movie actually having those moments, to your point, Mike, it has them in there, but they don't feel forced, in which again with these kinds of things, with these kinds of movies, there's a lot of things that can feel forced. The nostalgia can feel forced. And look, I think I think when people say wokeness, I mean, we're obviously poking fun at it.

But I think wokeness in terms of what we're actually talking about, is more just bringing these franchises into the modern day and trying to make sense of the things that now, in hindsight, don't make as much sense when you go back and rewatch the original movies. And I think that this movie does a good enough job at kind of addressing that. Like you said, with that one line that Eddie Murphy has, I mean I think that to have it be corrupt cops. I think is also you know, maybe a little too on the nose, but I think in this day and age, you know, corrupt cops man. But that's what the whole fucking movie falls apart, because it's so ridiculous.

He's so out in the open, like, here are my right, it's see that it doesn't work. That's from nineteen eighty five. Like they've updating it in some ways, but I don't think you act has changed in one iota. Like he'd be telling everyone to fuck themselves back in eighty five as well, Right, we didn't need the villains and their plots coming with him. One real subversion to that I thought was, uh uh, you know, we're known Axel Foley is known for like walking into every situation, being able to talk himself into any situation.

Uh. But when we get basically a repeat from the first film where he walks into the hotel and he's about to start like conning her into he's just fuck item too tired, Just give me, give me the hotel room. I don't I don't care. Like that was probably my favorite moment in the entire movie because that that because Eddie Murphy inhabits this character so well, uh that it felt It felt good because if you watch the third film, that's Eddie Murphy trying to be serious Axel for some reason, like the top of all the movie's other problems, he wanted to take that character in a different direction. But this felt like a return to form, except there's no Let you know, Eddie Murphy like has sort of famously changed his laugh because he was so tired of being parodied and copied and you know, made fun of for the way he laughs, So he changed the way he laughed.

But I remember actual Foley laughing that way. Couldn't he have affected it a little bit for the for this one flick? That would have been nice. At least he didn't stick any bananas and any tail types. Though in this I was really almost they almost got there with a little bit of the fan service.

Yeah, I'm just amazed that they You're totally right as far as as soon as you see Kevin Bacon you're like, oh, well, he's a corrupt coup he's the villain. Yeah, and remember when he was a villain in RIPD doing the exact same thing. Literally, I'm amazed that they let him be on the force still after all the shit he pulled on Ryan Reynolds back in IRIPD. Yeah, yeah, he is exactly that same character, and it's like, okay, yeah, and yeah, no hiding it and no third act reveal. There's nobody behind him, who's the power behind the throne.

It's just him, just his goons. And yeah, I kind of like that thing too, when Eddie Murphy walks into or sorry Axel walks into Judge Ryan holds room and they're tearing into part and he just now, what the hell's taking so long? And he does that whole thing, And then when the other Gouten walks in, this is the exact same thing. I thought that was kind of nice as well. So I don't think I'll ever do an episode on the original movie.

So this is my opportunity to mention nineteen eighty five. Fletch comes out, and Fletch is just now I see that Fletch is just Chevy Chase's version of Beverly Hills Cop without a gun, because the whole because I'm not saying in the book Fletch he's not talking himself in and out of things, because that is the case. But if we're talking a cinematic comparison. Every time he did that in this movie, I was like, this is what this would look like if they had ever made that third Fletch movie with Chevy Chase, Like, now, this is what it would look like. You'd have that scene where he tries to do it and he's just like, all right, I can't.

I just can't be bothered. But what's so weird is I had never put those two things together in my mind as kind of an overlapping idea, But Beverly Hills Cop and Fletch have so much in common. I think it works here really well because they understand how to amend it and do different things with it. Then don't make it feel like they're just treading that old ground again. Obviously, the most recent Fletch movie is a completely different thing, so it also felt very different from what it was trying to achieve.

But here we have the original actor doing the character again, and it doesn't feel the There's so I don't want to say there's so little fan service in this movie, but there's not a lot of fan service, not in the way that I was expecting, not in the way that what there is really sticks out. I think if you would watched the first movie a billion times, you would like, right from the opening song, you'd be like, Okay, we're doing this right, the heat is on now? Yeah? Well yeah, well when will we be dancing the neutron? Well that's okay song not too long after.

Actually, who's Detroit's favorite song of Bob Seeger? Yeah, you have to get the Bob Seger in there first. Well. And also, I mean, you know when I was so I watched this when my folks were here, and my mom was like, this is the music from Fletch, right, It's like, no, it is, but it isn't but it is, And so god, let can we talk about the music because look, the axl f song at this point the other thing that I think probably we should mention and I can't believe we're gonna have to say it in the same breath as Beverly Hills Cup, but crazy Frog an axl f. I mean, there are people my age that have never seen these movies but know the song crazy Frog acts the Crazy Frog's axle f, which was like a meme for you know, ten fifteen years.

I mean again, it's certain corners of the internet people are still breaking it down to the crazy Frog. But the music in this movie is a bit much. And by a bit much, I mean they beat you over the fucking head with the fact that this is a Beverly Hills cop movie. In every scene and I don't remember that being the case of the original movie. There were some more music cues.

They had some more stems there than just doo doo doo do doo doo dooo, just played like eight million different ways. Well, it's weird that it has gotten now so well not now, but in the past that has crept into so many rap songs that it feels like it is being sampled in some of these rap songs that we're hearing towards the end, especially like here we Go. Well, will Nazex's song, that's that song was made for the film, So okay, I didn't yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought this was an older song that happened to use some Harold faltermeyron. This is made. This is a song made for the movie, which I kind of miss that I missed that being a thing.

Uh, well, you need to watch some I mean, didn't Will Smith do a Bad Boys for Oh It's a fourth time We're coming out we are back. Bad Boys back. Yeah, it just doesn't have the ring to it the Men in Black did. God, Oh yeah I didn't. I didn't think that Bad Boys four and Beverly Hills Cop four would come out in the same year.

Isn't that just that's just something we need, ip ape Pellegrino's not working on anything at the moment. What's he up to? It was weird to see him this movie, no lines at all. Yeah, that was It took me a while. I had to say, wait, does that Mark Pellegrino though?

Oh yeah, I was so surprised his his hairline has come up a little bit, I think is what the issue is. He doesn't have this full of a head of hair as he used to when Dexter was murdering him, or the Winchester brothers were murdering him, or he was there on the island playing backgammon against Wilhelm. Yeah. God, yeah, here was the sobering moment for me. Mike.

I don't know what I knew, but I love seeing Paul Reiser again, like I like you. I thought he was a great part of the original film. When he's dropping axel Off at the airport. I don't know any captain who do that, but I guess Paul Reiser would. When Annie Murphy calls out to this like skycap and he's and he's like, look at him, look at me.

We're the same age, look at him, look at me. And then I really looked at Paul Reiser and I looked at any Oh my god, they're really old. Oh my god, I'm really old. This whole thing is aimed at me, and I'm eyeing it. That's why I said, so, I said, like, who is my age watching this?

Like? What was the is it? Is it Joseph Gordon Levitt? Is it the JG L of it? All?

Is like, we're gonna get him through the door with the Holy matrimony. Kid, we got this. He was good. Oh he was in it, though I didn't know until the credits started. I was like, yeah, really, well it is.

It's an Eddie Murphy movie, right, I mean, it is an Eddie Murphy movie. He's just in it. It helps that I follow John Ashton and Judge Ryanhold on Facebook, so I'm seeing all of these pictures of them and all the there's no JGL in any of those. So that was pretty funny. Yesterday, by the way, John Ashton day, because I watched the movie or the Colombo that we're going to talk about later today, Chris with John Ashton in it, so brue.

Yeah, just see him at the beginning and possibly end of his career all in one day. That was kind of a sobering thing. And poor John, you know, doing the mustache dying and the hair dying thing. I was like, yeah, I don't know how this really helps you look young. If anything, it looks like your grass that straws when he's rolling up at the in the climax that there's a there's a tight close up of him where he looks like the green Reaper coming to kill everybody.

Man like you, No, don't, don't try to age him down, him up. We love him. And that house at the end so reminded me of the house at the end of the first movie. To the Commando house that they shoot up in val verd Bee. No, I don't know, but not just that that mansion to have that big gunfight there.

I was like, Oh, this is very similar to what they were doing in the first movie, but I don't think it really works here, right, Like I really worked in the first movie, well, I mean, and here it's like, look, I mean again, this is this exists in you know, the fourth sequence of these movies coming out, So in the first movie that's one thing, but going back to the well in the fourth movie again, and then I don't know, and then the way that kind of all concludes just really I don't know. Kevin Bacon was such a thoughtless addition to this movie, and then the way his character is handled at the end of the movie also feels like he's just YadA YadA out of the plot of the airgumb jgl and now he's dead, like wait what like but all of the I don't any of the suspense that there was with what was going to happen was essentially taken away.

But there wasn't any anyways, I guess is the problem. I guess you don't need Do you need a villain in these kinds of movies like that, like a like a villain in charge your kid? It just be like a faceless organization like the I think the best part of this movie is where they're in traffic and those cartel members just show up and start shooting up shit. That felt a little bit more interesting than just oh well, there's this crooked cop, Like no, there's just like a big real world threat and here comes Axel Foley, Like that's a little bit more interesting then, Like you mentioned Father Milah on the nineteen eighty four called of It All, and here's Kevin Bacon twisting his air mustache that he doesn't have.

Yeah, but Kevin Bacon's really bringing it, is the thing. And I do think he always Kevin Bacon, though of course he always bringing it right. But like you know, he's a pretty good analog to Maitland in the first movie, and he was a good villain for that movie, but he just needed to be a better written villain and then he can be the face of it. But I do agree with you that cartel sequence was like out of hand, Like that was as impactful as the fucking helicopter thing. Yeah, I mean, and instead of going back to that, well again, they just had it set in a mansion, and I mean again, like it's fine, it's just not I don't know, the stakes aren't there, I guess, And when you have a helicopter chase not ten minutes before, that kind of feels like you're missing where you should have put the focus or maybe the order you should have put the things in Kevin Bacon fall out of a helicopter at the end of the movie.

I mean, let's talk about the eighties of it all. Have a shot of the guy falling backwards. They used to do that enough in the eighties. My God joker, Alan Rickman, Alan Rickman, I think several times even Oh, Mike, I want to ask you, as a Detroit person, where's Axel Livin? Did you direct?

I did not recognize it. I've never really recognized where he lives. I was very surprised and elated that they actually shot some things in Detroit, because when they first showed him in the car, I was like, all right, is he really there or is this just you know, interior axle in car exterior somebody else driving the same car. No, it looked like he was actually there, and that they actually, you know, shot somewhat down here, which is funny because I don't remember them shooting here in the city at all. But definitely a lot of that was yeah, because you know, if you go back and watch the original Beverly Hills Cop there's a lot of shots of and like pickup shots around Beverly Hills, but not really a whole lot of action that goes on here.

I was surprised that how much action takes place in Beverly Hills here. Yeah, I used to live in Santa Monica, right the town over and not spent a lot of the time in Beverly Hills necessarily, but certainly recognized everywhere where they were shooting. And I was shocked at the practicality of this entire production. I was shocked that Hector Alezando doesn't make an appearance in this SCE. He took over as the Chad Ashton rule in the first one, that he's still aroute.

He should have shown up at some point and just you know, gotten unceremoniously killed. Well we got Louis Guzman. Oh my god, that was very surprising. What is he playing like that? Louell Singer like the Neil Polish for Everything is a very much a gay gay coded character from nineteen eighty four slipped into it twenty twenty four requel movie.

It's very weird. But Luis Guzman everybody, Yeah, yeah, very part I thought. I thought the setup for that seems so ridiculous. But once they started talking in the in the booth started by themselves. Like I was totally into it and I thought he was great, But like this over the top nonsense that like every scene has to top the last.

Don't do that. We don't need that. Just just cut to these guys talking. He'd be far more interesting. Oh on, Some of the best scenes in the movie are just Eddie Murphy and jgl talking and like having a witty repartee with one.

But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess when you exist in the framework of pop culture where again Bad Boys comes out and it one ups itself constantly, I guess you kind of have to to keep the action of it all still in, you know, at least fifty percent of the movie, because this is an action comedy and people still expect the action to have some value. I get you. I don't know. I liked I liked that there were chase scenes, but yeah, to have big chase scenes and then a climax taking place inside of a building is like, guys, I understand where we're coming from here, but I don't know.

I mean, I know they're making another one of these. My hope is that they they figure that out, and maybe I mean, maybe they'll just make a sequel to this actually not being very similar to what the other movies did. But I can't imagine Beverly Hills CoP's going to be set in Detroit. That's the other thing here, Like, doesn't Beverly Hills Cop kind of always had to be set Beverly Hills. So though they were well, I don't know about that Bird one that always felt like it was past the diner or something.

But yeah, yeah, it's explaces at an amusement park, right right, It was like Diehard at an amusement park, but people could easily come and go, which I didn't understand. Wow, very scary. They talked about in the third one that they're going to do that in London for a little while to make that fish out of waterness even more because right now Beverly Hills in Detroit. Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of differences, but at the same time, it's just like they're a lot similar now than they were in nineteen eighty four, whenever the first one came out. Yeah, two eighty forty four, Okay, wow, actulls Hawaiian.

Yeah, we've been waiting, we've been waiting him and Beetlejuice. Yeah, well, god, I'd like to see that bearing speaking of nostalgia bait coming out, oh my god, and speaking of recycled bits from an original movie, that trailer is one hundred percent jokes from the first film. I'm so disappointed in not looking forward to the movie all of a sudden. Oh but that at one point in that movie that they have a ring with a finger on it in the original, and now it's a plot in the new movie. Aren't you excited?

I'm excited for that's that's something new maybe, but like turning around and going look at this and scaring somebody. We did that, that that we did that, We got to see it again. It's twenty twenty four, we got to do it again. I'm not here for the greatest hits, Baby and Went. And here's the thing I don't get, is anybody here for that anymore?

I hope not. I wonder because I am fan service better die with this movie, Like, if they're doing a fifth one, it better be just a brand new accent for I don't like Ghostbusters Frozen Empire because it's not Ghostbusters e enough for me? Is I don't care? At this point? I want it to be something different.

So I'm with you. If they make a fifth movie, take him to Hawaii, send him to Beijing. I don't give a shit. Just don't have it be set in Beverly Hills again again again, going to reverse rush hour and send him over there, or have JGL go to Detroit, I don't know, or just murder him in the first five minutes of the movie with a face hugger. You know, when the spaceship crashes on their way back to Detroit.

Romulus. Yeah, well there is a Romulus. I live just a few miles away from it, so that's where airport is. So Beverly Hills Cop Romulus perfect. Talking about fan service, whoa, what a shout out to the Shrek films in this movie, right, talking about how onions have layers?

Yeah, come on, hell yeah. I was like, hey, look, everybody's time on onions again. Speaking of bizarre shout outs, Hey look man, it's a first blood knife. Yes, yes, what the fuck was that? Now?

Had they brought up Cobra and had like the Cobra scissors you know? Yeah? For those who may not know, Beverly Hills Cop eventually became Cobra once Sylvester Stallone walked away from Beverly Hills cop and thank god he did. Yes, all right, jesus. I mean this takes the whole race thing right out of it too.

If you had the white cop going from Detroit to the Hills, that would have made no sense. I wanted to ask you, Mike, since you are the Detroit ter here, where where does Axel Foley stand as a pop culture icon for Detroit. He's not as big of a statue of him. He's not as big as RoboCop. Right, No, still waiting for that RoboCop statue, by the way, which I gave money to in for Kickstarter back in twenty fucking eleven.

I think I was before we met. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, still waiting for that one. So yeah, I don't know personally, Like I don't think that the kids. The kids don't know Axel Foley.

I think they're more familiar with that crazy frog sound a song. But yeah, those kids love that crazy frog sound. But yeah, for me, you know, obviously a big hometown hero, but he's not allowed to like other detroit Ters necessarily. I think that's the Beverly Hills of it, all right, did you're on a Mumford Fizz edge share. No, but those things definitely sold quite a bit afterwards.

Yeah, and I was hoping he would wear that. But at least we got the Detroit Lions jacket. And I'm surprised he didn't talk about how good the Lions did last year. So though it was great, that whole thing with him going to the Red Wings game and the whole like, oh yeah, my uh my grandfather late for Winnipeg, Winnipeg black guys. That might have been I think that was the funniest bit at the beginning of a movie, like with all of this, Yeah, because I'm black, I don't like hockey.

That was good And at least he didn't, you know, dress up like the mascot or anything throw back and Rico Palozzo, Yes, yeah, pull it. Yeah, Oh my god, speaking of that, I mean, speaking of comedy cops, we're gonna get a naked gun for even can you he were get They're all coming back. I want Dragnet too. Dan Ackroyd and Tom Eggs are still kicking it. What's amlmaz up to in twenty twenty five?

That's what the that's what the you know, Dabney Coleman just passed away, and so did Christopher Plumber. We can have an in memoriam scene to both of them. Let's just have a connected universe where Dragnet and to this movie. It'll just have all take place in the same universe. Why not the sad thing?

I guess because someone is somewhere thinking that, oh yeah, and weighing, weighing the nostalgic value of these things, like how how much did people like drag That? How much like the Three Amigos, Like, let's so, let's figure out a way to get those remade or rebooted or re what the fuck ever we can ring a fuck another dollar out of They've been trying to do that with Police Academy guys. I mean, that's been a rumor for years that they're trying to get True Academy off the ground again. Well, the last I heard about that was you know, Yarma Tocone from The Lonely Island, like he had written a script, they were going to direct it, And then it was George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and suddenly nobody wanted to make a wacky comedy about cops.

Aw Baganda Baby, So I forgot to mention, and I get it. It's kind of a random aside, not random, but it is. It's a random connection that this podcast has to Beverly Hills Cop four. My previous co host is in this movie as the as the guy at the impound lot. Oh my god.

Yeah, literally, my previous co host of this show for several years, Sean Leong, is actually the guy who goes back and forth with Eddie Murphy and the inpound Lot, which cracked me the fuck up. When I saw it, I was like, wow, talk about making it baby, He's on a Netflix movie. Now, Wow? Was he actually in Jupiter Sending? I don't know.

I like how somebody brings up Jupiter ascending in this movie, Like that's not a thing that anybody needs to be doing in twenty twenty fours. That shot of him and Channing Tatum, Oh yeah, Channing taught me all this. Yeah that was hilarious. Yeah yeah, And I love when his daughter calls him on his bullshit. Yeah no, no, that was yeah.

My previous co host, Sean Brian Leung. He it was just funny. My wife and I like looked at each other and we were like, what the fuck ke'ses and then go on Instagram to see he's been sharing about it. Finally that the movie's out. But it was I I again like all of that stuff with him pretending to be people like I'm glad that they brought that back.

I wonder if when they do the next movie, if that if they're going to lean on it as much, because by the end of the movie it kind of I think the movie realized it couldn't do it anymore. But that is probably my favorite scene of them doing that, that back and forth rep park thing. A lot of SD cards, talking about SD cards a lot in this movie. Oh Mike, where's the SD card? Is this twenty twenty four?

Where's they're no more cocaine? Where's the SD card at? You gotta buy that SD card? That's true way to mcguffin there. Yeah, I'm interesting that this was Mark Mark mlloy's first directorial feature that I think he was more of a commercial director.

Yeah, i'd he handled it pretty well. I thought things looked pretty good. The action scenes were pretty well directed. They weren't, you know, infusing too much, which is always my complaint as far as you know, they you can never have a nice wide shot of stuff. It always has to be in super close up these days to show action, but I thought that he handled it pretty well for more than five seconds anyways, And I would have like to have seen this on the big screen.

I don't know, it feels like it could have actually done something. I mean, they released such garbage to theaters these days, when not released this garbage and see if it takes well. And it had Kevin Bacon in it, I mean it has an actual actor, like well known actor as the villain too, which I feel like, you know, father Malone to your point of like, eh, you know, he's kind of just he's Kevin Bacon. He shows up like, Okay, we get it, Like, who the fuck doesn't I love Kevin Bacon and everything. Who the fuck doesn't his addition to anything makes it better?

And him and who is who's he been married to? The closer that will Kyri haras Sedgwick. They're at one of those you know, hollyw would uh, you know, couples that have lasted as well. So it's a good story there. Kevin Bacon seems like a great guy, but it does kind of seem like a bummer that all of a sudden, he's just kind of character actor villain man, which seems a little bit like a waste of Kevin Bacon because he's such a good actor, and I know that he's better.

I'm not saying he's not. He can't play a good guy, but like, I think he's been great on both sides. I just don't understand why all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, it's because he he's got a distinct face. Got to make him the villain. I guess that's what it is.

I don't know. I just just need better movies, that's all. Yeah. Yeah, I mean again, like you would think he's the villain in a Beverly Hills cop movie. It's not.

Yeah, nothing, Yeah, they wrote a standard villain and then they cast fucking Kevin Bacon. Yeah you know. I mean beer Koff brought so much gravitas to that role, and even Jurgen Prock now was a great villain. And then having having a really strong right hand with Brigitte Brigitte Nielsen in that second one I thought was pretty smart. Having a really strong right hand with Jonathan Banks in that first movie, I mean, god, when he says, uh, you know, sorry, cuz to Eddie Murphy.

It's just like, oh man, he's just so fucking cold blooded. But yeah, did not have that. I mean, Kevin Bacon is Kevin Bacon, but like you said, he seems like a really nice guy, so to see him in these villain roles, she's just like, I don't know if I value as a villain Kevin Bacon. Yeah, I don't buy it. I didn't buy it an rip D and I don't buy it.

Here ten years ago that movie came out. Man, lord, what about the sequel? Have you seen that? Is that a thing? No?

It's it? Is it? Manuck. I'm just gonna go out and a live and say, Ryan Reynolds and Jeffery just don't come back for the sequel. No, no, they don't put a shocker.

They didn't have that in their contract. You gotta come back for two more ripds. James Hong though maybe he's I don't know if James Hong comes back, Man, James Hong, he's showing up for that RIPD too money. Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember who is in. I want to say Jeffrey Donovan might have been the jeff in there for a little Armando Sante my way, all right, I got you, I got you.

It's yep. Jeffrey Donovan, uh right now, Richard Brake, that might be the Richard we're talking. Hey, you know what give that guy never said no to a good time? Yeah, he was in Three from Hell. That's all I recognized from this cast.

Lift Wow, Hey, like you said, father Blah on the ips baby got an ip make some money? Yeah, but but don't actually funny Axel Foley five coming soon, all right? In that can. But it's Eddie Murphy, so he's always going to get a pass, you know. Yeah.

I mean that's the thing. Ultimately, Like, what has Eddie Murphy really been doing recently to keep himself relevant in the pop culture world? Not a whole lot if this is part of that, Like cool, he did the Coming to America sequel, which was which was all the fans are, it was everything this movie wasn't, So maybe that was there was a learning curve there because that movie felt like and now here's another famous hit. But also it was more like family oriented too, and not as like I guess, as comedically interesting as the original one. I didn't I've never seen either.

But from what I read that was one of the complaints was it was more sanitized and scrubbed for family friendly audiences than the original was. This movie does none of that, thankfully. He says fuck and the N word in the first five minutes of the movie, which I'm here for, Like, I'm glad that they just let him do his thing because that seems to be Eddie Murphy's thing when he's doing it well is nobody can do it as good as him, at least not in terms of still get me an Eddie Murphy type, right, that ain't a thing Hollywood seeing where they wanted Eddie Murphy type and Hollywood shuffle and they're all doing that fucking laugh of this. I'm sure that helped him go, I'm not doing this laugh anymore.

So what's the deal with the laugh? I've never heard of this before? But oh, I know, I just so. But so he didn't so he had to change his laugh because he perceived that his own laugh was detrimental to his career or just being parenty too much. No, he just he got sick of hearing it and allowing this shorthand for like the worst impressions in the world.

Like if he said anyone in the world you could say, do Eddie Murphy. They just do the laugh and that's Eddie Murphy. I didn't want to be that. I don't want to be that laugh. Interesting.

Yeah, I guess I haven't seen enough older Eddie Murphy movies to even correlate the two. Interesting. He's not doing it in Haunted Mansion clearly, or Nutty Professor or Norbit. It's in trading places. Yeah.

I was about to say some of the older ones are the best ones that he did. Interesting. Yeah, so you know what we forgot about want to ink all this stuff too? Is the Beverly Hills cup pilot. Do you guys remember it was supposed to be a Riot TV series for a little while, and apparently he showed up in that, and then it was his son, Aaron fully who's in that?

Directed by Barry Sonefeld from twenty thirteen. I think I watched it, but it made such an impression that I can't even tell you what happened to it. What a weird time, though, because twenty thirteen would have been around the same time of like that Exorcist TV show, like a bunch of legacy TV sequels coming Out's baby, remember that one. Yeah, I do recod Lord, there was an omen TV show that ran for like six fucking seasons. I'm pretty sure even like, hey, you know what though, at the end of the day, like I think, complaining about these things is you know, obviously we do it all the time in terms of these things are here, they exist, and we have to keep dealing with them, and they keep taking these ips and running them into the ground.

But it's nice to see that some of these things can still actually be somewhat three quarters two thirds even entertaining. But doesn't make up for how many these things just come out and are just such a complete and utter waste of time at this point, and given how much stuff comes out on a daily basis, and this is on streaming, how many things are constantly like vying for our attention, you really have to make a case for people to spend time watching your movie. And I mean, this was successful enough that they're making another one through streaming, so eh, I mean that's not a bad thing. If they make another one of these and it's less fan servicey and more an actual new idea and movie, Yeah, I'd be down for that.

But it's a rarity in this kind of thing. Unfortunately, surprise, it didn't go out on a Crazy Frog. You know this opportunity. Edniebury just rides away in an invisible mind going on, Dodd Do Do Doo, dude, Due just rides away. That's the movie I wanted.

That's not the movie we got. I'm super disappointed. God, Eddie Urvihy just pulls a mask off like Scooby Doo at the end, and Crazy Frog said, just buffs out, man comes out. Yep. God, nobody needs to be mentioning Crazy Frog in twenty twenty four.

But you know, Beverly Hills Cop, on the other hand, maybe maybe that's not the case for it. So the woman that plays his daughter, who I thought was really good, she's in the new version of Toxic Avenger. So is Kevin Bacon. Oh if they hung out on set and we're just talking about making Beverly Hills Cop for you know, remember we shut that movie last year? Yeah, me too, Yeah, I remember that we got coming out?

Yeah, yeah, who knows being dropped out? Streaming where? Who? I don't know? Yeah?

Who bought it? Hulu? Netflix? Who jesus can you imagine just in Yeah, you gotta fight take. You know what, At one time, you had to fight to be in the movies, not fight to have your fucking movie released on anywhere other than just streaming.

Oh that's fine. The whole world has become independent distributors. Yeah, uh, fall him alone. Final thoughts on Beverly Hills Cop four. I dug it.

I know it's a nostalgia bay, but it's well done and it seemed to be made with care by by the original star here. Uh uh, you know, it's it's a lot of the same and uh and uh, but a lot that's really good. I don't know. Uh, it's good to see all of these characters and not just a caricatures of them for the most part. And it's always great to see Eddie Murphy no matter what.

Mike, what about you? Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by this film. I had been talking about it with some coworkers on Friday, and one of them was complaining about the plastic surgery that Billy Rosewood had had. I don't think he had any surgery that looked like Judd and joege Reinhold through and through to me. But I was just I was a little sad that he wasn't in the movie more, but I understand the role that he was playing was to basically be out of the way.

But I loved the scenes when he came in, and yeah, to see Eddie Murphy back to form, and and you never know when you go to see Eddie Murphy movie, you never know what you're gonna get. So this was a very pleasant price and I would recommend that more people check it out. Yeah, as the one out of the three of us who is coming to this in from a very different angle, at least in terms of Eddie Murphy and Eddie Murphy's role as an actor, I as more athlete a comedian in what I watched growing up, This is this is. It's definitely different from a lot of the stuff, but at the same time, it's very similar to the things that y'all saw and grew up on. So it's nice to see them kind of try to find a way to split the difference and bring a character that could have felt like an anachronism and in a lot of ways theoretically does not feel that way in a twenty twenty four setting, and Eddie Murphy has still got it.

I mean, I to both of your points. The idea of Eddie Murphy as the lead and things doesn't necessarily bring me joy, because I've seen things that are Hello, my name is Dave or whatever the fuck the name of that. Look, there's Eddie Murphy's inside of Eddie Murphy. Just kill me now, please, But then you get something like this, which is again, it's fun. It's a return to one of the things that made Eddie Murphy famous.

And look, they're going to make another one because this was successful. I hope it's more of the things that worked and less of the things that didn't. But even if it has things that don't work, this movie did as well. But I think it works overall better than it had any right to. So Yeah, until we cover another new thing, which will probably be sooner rather than later, more than likely, I think what we're looking at, Twisters, I think is probably the next new thing, which I'm more excited for than I am for most things coming out this year.

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