MVxTPBxKC: Venom: The Last Dance

Weary. We welcome to the Projection booth. I'm your host, Mike White this special crossover event. I am joined by the Culture cast christ Issue weed On. I am also joined by Midnight Viewings Antonio.

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Yeah, so you know, cutting into the chase, not even hello, just this movie start hit this movie blok. It sucks, folks. Jesus, you know who I am and we've all met. Get ready to dive into the chaotic and thrilling world of Venom the Last Dance. In this episode, we unraveled the wild journey of Eddie Brock and his iconic symbiote as they face their toughest battles yet, From intense confrontations to unexpected alliances.

We'll explore the story's dark twists and the shocking fate that awaits. Join us as we dissect the gripping narrative, mind blowing visuals, and unforgettable moments that the fire this epic chapter fans, this one's got all the bite. Don't miss it. Okay, So, crais the fuck did that come from? Did you have a I write that for you?

Chris? What did you think of Venom three a k a. Venom The Last Danced Dress Code? Why did you keep knocking people out? Vote?

My creator has phoned us, so. Gosh, then I'm the Last Dance. I was disappointed that there wasn't enough Michael Jordan in the movie. That's a Michael Jordan, Isn't that not what this is? Like?

The Last Dance references? Is that? Well? Yeah, right, there was that Michael Jordan documentary that came out like two years ago. That was Michael Jordan The Last Dance.

Now, Oh yeah, Well, I know what they're getting at with the title of the movie. I thought it was it was a pretty gay movie. Really. I found this to be a very oddly homosexual film in a way that the other Venom movies, at least the second and third one were. The first one not so much, but definitely the second one.

The first one was like, hey, we have to have a love interest, and then this one's The last two have been like the love interest is Venom that's the point, y'all. Doesn't the second one have a whole plot about them breaking up? And yeah? I mean yeah, And then this one is, you know, the death of the relationship, you know, the sacrifice of one for the other. I think I probably enjoyed it more than at least Father Malone, but he let the cat out of the mag early.

I don't know about, y'all. I thought it was fun. I actually enjoyed these Venom movies a fair amount. I think that Tom Hardy as Venom is a weird choice that works. I think that there's some cheats in this movie that are cheats, and I think we were now seeing the multi versus cheat and I'm sick and fucking tired of it, kind of like Venom says in the movie, I'm thinking this multi versus shit.

Yeah, me too, dude. Other than that, I thought it was a perfectly fine movie. It is a very weird comic book movie for twenty twenty four. But I will say, for as much as Marvel's stuff, Marvel's MCU stuff has been very same me, which it has for quite some time now, at least the Sony's stuff, the Sony Spider Man stuff, as bad as most of it has been. Cough cough, Madam Web cough cough, Morbius.

At least they're kind of entertaining in a very strange way. And I'm not saying they're good, They're just entertaining. And who the fuck is making a comic book movie like this in twenty twenty four, because these have a sensibilities of those like early two thousand Spider Man movies or early two thousands superhero movies like those X Men movies and the Spider Man movies and the Fantastic Four movies. I think it's a weird movie. Again.

I don't know what to make of a movie where they have a dance number with Venom. Again, it's it's it's not for everybody. I think in a lot of ways, it will be yet another weird entry into Sony's Spider Man whatever the hell they're doing without Spider Man. But I thought it was fun within reason, and it's only an hour and a half, which is nice compared to every other MCU thing which quoks in it two hours bare minimum because why, I don't know. And Antonio, how about yourself?

I felt like it was an eighties movie. I had that kind of vibe too, and I think that's what it was, kind of like an eighties, you know, buddy movie, either on the road or YadA YadA YadA. Here's a stupid musical number for no reason. Here's some here running into the lady from the last movie, just randomly playing, you know, playing a playing poker. On one of the machines.

I just it was too terrible. I ain't go. It's not a great movie. The I haven't liked any of them. But if you separate yourself from it being Venom, I guess it's a pretty entertaining monster comedy, right, that's kinda how it plays.

But you know, I was nine, ten eleven whenever when Venom draped, Right, I remember that first issue that I had with him, and it was I didn't at the first I didn't have that three hundred number three hundred of Spider Man, but I had one or two afterward, and it's been kidnapped Mary Jane. And it's the first time I had seen pot Parland draw Spider Man. And I was blown away. Like I had seen him in other stuff at DC, but out and he was this she was this arch nemesis. He was this evil kind of character.

And even when they like storm shadowed him in the nineties there, like when you know, I turn him into a good guy out of nowhere, he still had a redemption arc. You know. It's okay, so I was this awful guy and I'm trying to do better now. Movie Venom, it just is. I guess.

I don't think Spider Man three is all that great, but I do like Telfer Graces about him. I liked his evil Peter Parker, he was a jerk. It was a reason for that hatred towards him. I mean, obviously that just the thing just dropping out of the sky while Peter Parker's riding his batbed is ridiculous. But it looked cool.

It looked like body horror a little bit. And this movie is the art very gross, it's very kind. Gen Eric CG. I don't know what nell is. They just said, okay, here's this force from another dimension?

Is that sus across over with Spider went down? And then that and finally you have the delight of having the guy from ted Lasso. In that movie. He'shm for three minutes. So yeah, I don't know, there's a lot of ted Lasso in this movie to be fair, and do you know Temples also yeah, j Temples are yeah, yeah, that's what they were.

Just like, hey, Ted Lasso's popular. We'll just put like half of them main cast from that show in this movie, all right, not gonna lie. I did a day of background on it and I couldn't like. And I did the scene where they show up in Vegas. I was there, but I'm not in the movie at all.

My buddy and of other Malone kind of matchhof Road as an actor in town. You see him he walks behind in a two shot there, he walks behind Tom Hardy and Receipens. But I like Receipens. I thought he was gonna be the lizard. But I guess he wasn't the lizard.

He was just some rando Tom Hardy. But that's the thing when it's brought the at the point that Chris brought up. Tom Hardy is really good though, like he makes the movie entertaining. Venom is a creature is entertaining. It's just nothing the men of might grow up in a comic book with.

But Tom Hardy is just like weird Eddy's fun. Tom Hardy reminds me of Nicholas cage and then anything that they're gonna be and the performance is gonna be weird enough that you're gonna at least be entertained by it, and we'll go for ninety minutes. That's great. That's what the eighties movie thing came from. To somebody father alone, how about you.

Sir, I'm gonna just start with what I liked about the maybe the xenophage, the creatures that are hunting them when they eat somebody, they like arass all the blood out of the back of their head. That was awesome. I like seeing Elena Ubach in anything, even as misguided as their character is here in the movie. And I guess that's about it. No, Tom Hardy obviously, yes, all those things, and the look of Venom himself.

I just kept wondering why this movie is called Venom because we don't really get a lot of him. This is the movie I was. I kept wondering why it wasn't just Venom most of the time and Tom Hardy popping out and every once in a while instead of the reverse. There seems to be less and less of Venom in these movies. It's rather unusual, and to hear the conceit is that they can't even bond because that attracts the creatures.

So like they've given themselves this excuse not to fully Venom. I don't know if that's a budget constraint or whatever. But like the thing where they have Venom's head talking to him, I think is great, and I do they started that in the previous one, but their friendship is fantastic. But to Antonio's point, this ain't Venom. Man.

I owned an action figure of Venom that, when you pushed a button said I. Want to eat your breeze. That's also null. By the way, part of the retrofitting of Venom was Null. Is the creator of the Symbios and the Zeno.

Okay, that's like in the last ten years, which is fucking wild that they introduce it here, because so much of what they've done with Venom up into this point has just been nineties stuff. And then they're like, oh, by the way, here is the King of the Symbiotes, which is a thing that literally, I'm not even joking, it was a thing that was in the last ten years because it was the big they did, a big marvel for the entire universe. They did an entire event and he it was like Planet Venom or something to that effect, and he was the main villain in that. But to your point, But to your point, all it does is they, Oh, now Venom's a good guy in everything. Venom's a good guy.

There's no villain Venom anymore in anything, even in the comic books now because of this character, and now they're doing it in the movies as well. Well, what they've done. I mean, yeah, he's started being a villain in the nineties though, I mean yeah, that whole lethal protector like I was it. Aw, all the symbiotes are good guys, is my following. It's not just a Venom.

It's now you're seeing the way they've treated it in the comic book as the way they're treating it in the movie, where all the symbiotes are seeming to be heroes and the villain is this overarching character. So if all we just understand that the symbiotes. Everybody loves the symbiotes. Of course we do, but that's that oversaturation thing. They just wanted to have Captain America's Venom, and Iron Man is Venom and Hulk is Venom, which happened in the comic book as well.

By the way that Nogay, he just looks like a japanese's video game cut seat, like a Final Fantasy game or something with that hair and traumatic pauses or anything that is that supposed to crossover into Tom Hollins MCU universe or No. It's quite clear this entire movie is the setup for a new trilogy of Symbia movements with. No Temple as the lead. Absolutely, that's all I was the entire time. I was like, this does not feel like the third film in a trilogy.

This feels like the prologue for a future adventures of the Symbias in the Sony universe. Yeah, so what did you think, Bike, Well, apparently I like this movie a lot more than y'all did. I enjoyed, Mike, I don't know. I seem to enjoy it quite a bit. I'm with you.

I went back and rewatched the first two, which I've seen several times, mostly the first one. I'm not huge on carnage. My background with Venom is. I mean, I was there for the Secret Wars the first one, and you know, the Black Suit and the Beyond are giving that to them and all these things, and then Spider Man waking up very tired in the morning, doesn't know what's going on, finding out that symbiote has life, you know, goes to the Baxter Building, gets it removed. Eventually, you know, Venom arrives.

But I think I was kind of out of comic books by the time even Carnage showed up. So yeah, Venom was still a bad guy when I was reading comics, and Carnage was the bad guy coming out of all that. I really had hoped for more when it came to that Woody Harrelson movie, even though that was absolutely ridiculous, especially that they changed his hair between the first movie and the second movie with that amazing Ronald McDonald wig that he was wearing. So just that was my biggest disappointment that second movies. He's quably Carnage.

I'm just an average guy with a really big dick. But Mike brings up an interesting point is that he was out of a comics by time. Carnage shut up and stuff like. That's when I was like a high school kid or whatever, and that was a multi media event. Yeah, no, there was no movie, but there was a Carnage maximum Carnage video game.

There was I mean, there was a Sega game and there was a coin op. It ended up on the Oh, we ended up on the car too, and it was like this big event. You know, it was a huge thing. And I think you just see all of this Vendom stuff and all these he had some Spider Man's not there. There's no reference to Spider Man anywhere, and.

It just, I don't know, it just takes away from me. It's hard for me to like, I know, four without Spider Man. Well, that was a really weird thing to have that extra scene at the end of Venom two where Eddie suddenly goes into the main MCU universe timeline and sees j Jonah Jamison sees Tom Holland as Spider Man on the TV, and it just it doesn't make sense unless Eddie Brock is the same Eddie Brock as too. For Grace, it doesn't make sense for him to have been transported to that universe because it's only for people who know the identity of Spider Man, so him showing up really doesn't make sense. Same thing with Electro, I mean to be, it really should have been Vulture showing up in that universe.

But I remember when Vulture showed up at the end of More Vius. Yes, it makes sense, and that was Vulture from the MCU. Yeah, once again, and he doesn't even know what the hell he's doing there. But yeah, this whole thing, and then I love how they just undo it within the first five minutes of Venom three, Okay, and yeah, to see who is it Sammy? No, I can't remember the name of the angel the Football is Life guy Danny Rojas.

Yes, that was so great to see him show up, and I was super excited. Yeah, but that was funny. And yeah, they just they set up so many challenges for themselves as far as we can't go back to San Francisco, we can't go to New York. I kept thinking that they were going to go finally end up in New York, and yeah, this whole thing of we can't be Venom because these creatures will know that we're around, but we show, Yeah, we do become Venom just in order to kick the plot into gear. But I don't know, I still like it.

It's dumb as donkey dick, as the kids say. But I really like these movies, and I even like the Resa fans, even though Yeah, to your point, Antonio, I thought that he was maybe gonna turn into lizard and then having chew Hotel Edgia for him here too, I was like, oh, is he a secret wizard here? It's weird how many people who have been in other MCU things are in this movie. However, I will say at this point it's a very short list of people that haven't. Been in the MC's, like just of forty MCU movies, Like everyone's been in them by now, so of course they're gonna start crossing over.

And you know what, that's my point with chaiwel eiaf. He's playing Rex Strickland, who is like a major character now or at least for a while with you know, he has bonded with a symbio and and is like an ass kicker, and they just sort of spoilers everybody. They just fucking waste him. At the end of this movie. I was like, why did they even call him Strickland?

Yeah, yeah, that was. Odd because even for me not being part of the comics culture for the last few years, I still knew the name. I was like, oh, major Strickland, Okay, I know that guy. Well, I guess I can quit the actor crossover to like reading John Byrne comics in the eighties when I was a kid, like where you know, he just drew Superman, Mister and Mister Fantastic for everybody self is maybe that's just it. You know, it's like they just look alike.

But I mean also again, literally at this point to your point, father Milone, there's like so many MCU movies it's almost impossible to not have. But you know the problem is obviously now because they've opened up the multiverse box. Now it's like, well, if Recipens is in the movie, he must be the lizard or what you have what che Ledger for, like he's fucking Mordope. No, they're just they're not They're just themselves. They're just new characters altogether.

Because initially Reciepens was supposed to was going to play kilm clint he wint Eastwood Kilt he was going and that was the initial again rumor, but then it turns out it's just Andy serkis once again doing the voice of the character. Oh, he's in the character. He's null that the name of the planet is killed. Yeah, yeah, No, so it's just Andy serkis once again doing the voice of a CGI character, just like he did in Star Wars. It's the New Planels.

Everybody, wait, once he gets out, things are going to be really bad in that Sony universe. You know who could have been really bad? Is the god Killer from Thor in Love and Thunder talk about a wasted character. Yeah, just coincidentally, Clinton is his own planet. Yeah, yeah, Like he really reminds me.

Those two characters remind me of each other. Maybe it was the black and whiteness of it all or something, but I was like, okay, yeah, another one of these dudes. Okay, and ye had no resolution with him, and I was like, oh, yes, he gonna be well. I don't even know if we're going to make more of these Sony films or if now everything we'll find the revert over to Disney again. That last Deadpool that we watched was just that big love letter to Fox's attempts.

I was with the memories that Eddie has at the end of this film of him and Venom together. I was like, Okay, is this our last tarah for this character before they go over to the Disney side of it? And I think, you know, when folks talk about superhero fatigue, I think a lot of that responsibility falls on the so On Sony Yes, for trying to put out basically trying to capitalize a regular Marvella universe by their with their crappy version, if you know, and other attempts they've done my Bloodshine or whenever. Is it just you know, I mean that that has a lot to do. I think it is Marvel's product up until recently has been pretty consistently going to eat and actually come out.

Marvel's product now. Is about the same it was ten years ago. It's just these are new characters, so there's more. There's a bit more scrutiny on it, I guess, but you know, And the funny thing is with the new stuff, I tend to like the stuff that those people don't. I thought Shield was great, I thought his Marvel was great.

But you know, I don't like Loki. Oh. I know, at the end of the day, it's all of the taste. But I think the so just with their crappy product, is really damaged. Here damaged.

Jimpreneur, you said this movie reminded me of a movie from the eighties. This reminded me specifically of a cannon attempt at making a superhero movie like circa nineteen eighties, having the script particularly just sort of a random hodgeponge and let's throw this in and oh, let's have a dance sequence here, and oh, you know, let's have this scene where Eddie makes a margarita with clipping bottles and tequila is playing, and we'll speed it up action like Benny Hill style. I did. This movie was confusing. Yeah, it was a hodgepot It was like they got the rights to the character but didn't quite read all the stuff and they just kind of picked kind of and chose what they kind of thought it was going to be, like had a real Revenge of Slump thing kind of vied to it, but just wamped thing.

Is damn good though, No, you know, it reminds me of Van Dolph Lundgren Punisher. Yeah, well, okay, he has a Shakespearean friend and who lives in a sewer why I don't know, why not? Did you read the comics? Now? Who cares?

Yeah? With that opening seat of that Dolf Langbard punish, there's just fantastic where he kittles all those mobsters of that house. Oh, that's great, and there's a couple there's a couple in that fight at the end with against the yaku I was pretty good too. Man, I'm gonna lie, but they never get the punisher right anyways, Los, So what are you gonna do? Well, that's the question that I have speaking of that.

So you're both talking about the fact that this is not venom the way the venom is in the comic books. This is gonna This is just me coming at this. That doesn't bother me anymore because I don't really care because it's the movie and the comic book exists. If I think shitty movie, however, what. I mean again, that's a that's a more subjective thing.

I'm more talking to the idea of if this were the MCU and that were the criticism, I would get it because I hold the MCU to a different standard, because the MCU is trying to be the film definitive version of the characters, the same way the comic book base universe in the comic book is trying to be, you know, the three line character of Iron Man as he is and has been since he was introduced. Because there is still the original universe of the characters, ultimate universe and everything else aside. It doesn't bother me so much anymore. I understand, I get it. But at the same time, if this were the MCU version of Venom and he were this weird ass character, I would agree.

I think if the MCU ever does it, which I assume and hope that they do, because this movie makes it pretty clear that this is not going to be the Venom of the MCU, thankfully. Well, here is some of his his black stuff on the bar and the. Other but that's no. No, that's in that's in this universe. It gets left.

No, he left a bit of himself in the last one too, but. They didn't but they didn't show but they didn't show it in this movie. No, No, they do, but then dance at the end of the Spider Man. Movie, right, But I'm wondering if they, like I think they might have ret conned that out of the movie. Nope, that's hot, it's there.

Well, No, I agree, like, I agree, But my point being like I think if there is going to be a Venom in the MCU, they will probably do something more akin to the original run of the character. And I don't think they've done it, yet I think that they will do it at some point. And so for me, like I said, I understand the criticisms like this isn't Venom the way I wanted it to be. But for me, it's like, this is more just Tom Hardy being fucking Tom Hardy and being weird. It's again, the problem with this movie really is that the name of the movie is Venom.

That's the real problem. Well, here's the thing. I've been very vocal that I love, you know, every version cinematic version of a character, you know, just like I love every version of a comic book. You know, different artists, different writers take the characters in different directions. I have no truck with them not adhering to the comic book.

In fact, I think Marvel, the cinematic Marvel works so well because they don't. Adhere to the character. They very quickly change anything for their characters, so long as that, you know, Bucky said like a twelve year old boy in the comic books. So so I think that's what works mainly with that. You know, I think the.

Marvel Universe, the MCU works so well is because and I just owe Kevin Vaye the master. I don't know if you guys have watched that show The Franchise on HBO, but there's it's, you know, behind the scenes backstage of a superhero franchise movie, and the Kevin Figee figure is always like living somewhere from his assistant. But the cool thing about Kevin Fage is Kevin Faye likes these characters. Kim Figgy likes the comic books, he likes the unit, you know, like he likes it. And I think the more successful Marvel movies usually work with people behind them that when they like the characters, I think, and you can see that, and you know, people making these venerable and it feels like they just.

Don't like them very much. I'm just gonna do whatever with it. That's what the vibe I get. But you watch an MCU movie, you can tell that at the top there's a real love for what Jack Kirby and then Steve Victo Stanley created. I wouldn't be surprised since we are headed to words another Secret Wars well towards a Secret Wars movie, I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out Venom then that seems like it'd be a good time to also pay a little homage to the original as long as they change out beyond her and that incredible white man perm that he had going on.

I mean, rott, I want to say that. I mean, there is a fourth Venom movie coming. I mean, we know are fourth excuse me, there is a fourth spider Man MCU movie coming. They just announced it recently, so who knows if it will be It could be Venom. I mean again, they haven't said anything other than there will be a fourth Spider Man movie, which would lead me to believe they'll probably be a fifth, then a sixth spider Man's movie, so.

I get them. Holland is so good as Spider Man. Yeah, she is. Like when I was a kid, that's that's who was in my head. Floating brown is what Don Holland is doing.

Then he's the spectacular. I'm excited to see him to be, you know, college spider Man. Now with you know, having all these girl brothers stuff. Well, it'll we'll finally get a chance maybe to meet Felicia Hardy and some of these other love interests that he's had over the years. I was like, as oh, I'm so down on my luck, but look at my parade of really, Hucker.

Yeah exactly, I'm just in that's like, what, Yeah, you pulled Stacy and Mary Jane. How the hell would you do that? What cantcut? Oh my god? Yeah, what I'm saying.

I wonder if if that is how we'll get the introduction of I guess have they had a Norman Osbourne? They haven't even had a normal I mean they had Norman Osbourne, but they haven't had Norman Osbourne. Harry and Norman are gonna be on the Freshman Year cartoon? Well, and wasn't because Harry, he was in the third movie, showed up because that was yet another villain in that new Goblin. Right, and then we had that awful the kid from the Chronicle that looked like he was saying that could date the s they're black on the cartoon.

I think, oh interesting, Harry yet we is cook? I think I were writing an angry tweet about that, right stand like you know Erican people, ohis get. The who. Williams? G Norm and what He's like?

I don't exist? What did that universe? So? Who else? Right?

But they haven't introduced those characters yet. So and in the Spider Man video game, they actually take an interesting route, and they actually have Harry Osborne is Venom in the video game. Well that is everybody in the comics at this point. Well, yeah, he's been flashed Thompson and I mean, right now in the comic book, Eddie Eddie Brock is Carnage. I believe.

Oh yeah, it's not Venom. Yeah, because he has Eddie Brock hasn't been Venom for quite some time. Yeah, but I'm thinking Nettle the Venom. That's gonna be Venom or Hobgoblin or something I've done. It's oh, I actually assume it's gonna be Hobgoblin.

It would be interesting. Eddie Brock is an interesting character in these movies, and that he's not that right. You know, we're going back to even the second Venom movie when Venom is basically teaching him how to be a reporter and gives them all the clues about where these bodies are buried. He looks at all these obscure drawings that what he Harrelson is doing, Kletus is doing, and brings those back and draws them all out, and he's just like, do I have to teach you your job? And I kind of like that Eddie is he's pretty much a fuck up, you know, and it's basically both of them.

In the first movie, Venom talks about how he's kind of a loser on his own planet, and I like, it's these two losers together and having these delusions of Brander, these delusions of what's their team up name Lethal Ethal Protector, Leather Protector. Yeah, just I think that's great. I kind of like that that they are these schlubs and really everything that can go wrong does go wrong for them. I kind of liked that quite a bit, and I didn't mind the whole idea of bringing all the symbiotes together and having that big fight at the end. I can see where some people would say that was a ridiculous fight, but I thought it was great.

I really like to see all the Venoms, all the symbiotes going at it. I thought that was pretty cool, and I was kind of it was like a little bit like, oh, I've seen a two headed symbiote before, I've seen this, the one that you know, Temple plays like, I think I've Sagany before. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, these are kind of cool character designed. So that was nice to see them. Yeah.

I true to the comics too, like they're very like straight up pretty much just I would say up converted versions. They don't do much with them, which is nice. I mean, yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like they don't do much, Like they're not really but that's it's okay. I don't know if they made some broad sweeping changes and tried to do that fan four stick version where it's like it's going to be body horror and realistic, I think I might have been checked out from a movie like this because this movie, I don't know it is. This movie feels cartoony, like it feels like a live action cartoon in a lot of ways, almost to the point where I kind of wish it had been more so.

But I feel like then it would just be like, well, then it's just a straight comedy, and people would probably have checked out even more so. But I would almost go as far as to say the tone of these movies is like a comedic superhero movie. They're like like straight up comedies almost right, Like. This whole movie is about shoes from the very beginning of the very good die of our Shoes, and it's like, you know, he loses his Yeah, what was it. He's got the shoes, he loses those.

He gets these other shoes, he loses those. Even when he's being pulled out of that Vegas penthouse, he goes my shoes. And then even when we see and I can't remember the actress's name, but she's Juno Temple's assistant, Christmas Tree. Like, the first thing we see her do is coming to her office, take off for shoes, put these shoes on the shelf, and there's such a prominent close up of the shoes, and I think that's supposed to tip us off later when she's wearing these ugly black crocs coming down into the laboratory and those are venom and some like five minutes before that, I leaned over to my wife and I was just like, this whole movie's obsessed with shoes. And then that her shoes were venom.

It's like, yeah, let's just kind of proves my point. And Eddie took those shoes at the end. Oh yeahs running out. Yeah, it's very Quinn Tarantino of the movie. We get obsessed with shoes, not with feet, right, Yeah, we get.

A whole lot of different the variations of Venom. Here we get the venom horse and a venom frog and a venom fish, and none of them do anything, and they all just hint that could have been an entirely different movie with Venom doing horrible things. During the end credits, they have even further variations. At once they show a venom elephant, and I thought, where was the venom elephant rampaging through a fucking city? Like, why were we at D commissioned Area fifty one?

This fucking with this? You know it's Chekhov's giant acid bath machine. If you introduce it in the opening and I have to use it in the end, and they sure do. Jesus, I don't even know why he was assetting, whether he was assetting at the beginning. I was like, what is true?

Okay, sure, I don't know why, but okay, And he'll say, is. That where the method that they were using to destroy things? Then why was it taking as long as it was? It seems like that was, you know, one day's work and no more Area fifty one. When you're using the acid bath I.

Feel like a lot of stuff that happened in this movie or a result of studio notes. But what's her missus Lee or what is that her name? No, yeah, I think it is missus Lee. I also want to call her missus Chen for some reason. Yeah, where he runs but when he runs into sorry and missus Chen, Ye happened When he runs into her at in the casino and they have the dance stom Burger and all that stuff, I feel like there's a studio note in there, you know.

Yeah, the nice lady from part two show up because I feel like this movie needs something fun, and they just say, okay, well she's just vegaus. I actually think that's if that's Tom Hardy's contribution to the script myself. Well, yes he has story by credits, he sure he does. And a screenplay by a person who could not make a decent screenplay out of Twilight fan fiction because she read that Fifty Shades of Gray adaptation. I mean, have you read the starting material.

I'm not sure what anyone. You can only go up is my point. You can only polish a turn so much. Yeah boy, yeah that bottom alone. I think you're you're really giving Fifty Shades of Gray way more credit because if you've read it, I don't think there's any up you can go from reverse.

There's there's no up from that. If you're starting at negative, you've only got positive to go to. Theoretically, yes, and execute the Warriors. The Warriors is a terrible novel and one of the best movies of all time. That's true.

But in The Warriors they're not tying them tying each other up with ties and having sex in a red room. Well, James remar attempted a bit of that on that part. So, speaking of speaking of things that are strange, why are the characters from Paul in this? Because that's what the Reese Ethan's character reminds me of. Oh okay, you know.

Because like, oh, we're gonna go to Area fifty one to look for aliens? Like where is this coming from? For it's episodes one, two, and three of this prologue that we just watched. It's very strange. But how does how do they factor into any of this?

I'm sure they already have it sorted out. But no, I'm genuinely asking what does any of their characters matter at all? But Reese Ethon's is going to end up being a cymbia post and a bad one, and I don't know it, writes itself. Yes, So it's just so it's so odd to me that there's this all of a sudden, there's this family of you know, the Tobias fu K family banned all of a sudden, it's just traveling the country because Area fifty one is being decommissioned. It's like I expected Seth Green from the X Files to be with them, Like, whoa man, I want to go see the lights in a studio?

Now the sign So we have a west number of nineteen. Hand In Films Presents Venom. Remember the Wehed and Justice League had a very similar thing with that, like Russian family at the end that the Flash has to say. Oh yeah, but yeah weed and threw that in there just because the notes from the previous movie were like stop killing everybody. It reminded me more of like a family that was in Mars attacks or Independence Day.

So, oh yeah, the Randy Squaid. Yeah, I don't know if this is necessarily a movie that's stuck in the eighties. I would say probably more like ninety five ninety four something around there. I've been saying it for ten damn ye that they probed him sexually. Yeah, there is a little bit of rand there's a little bit of randow quit going on.

It's it does. Yeah, it doesn't seem like the movie knows what it wants to do in a lot of ways. It almost feels like vignettes in a lot of ways. And again like such a weird to me and Antonio and Father Malone. You know, y'all talking about this doesn't feel like Venom.

I agree. It feels like someone was like, all right, the last two movies, we've established this like weirdo version of Venom. What would be interesting for him to do. Let's make a list of those things, and how can we cobble together a script that gets you from that point to that point because we have him riding on a horse, we have him fighting underwater where they're jumping around to the fish and the frogs, and then we have the symbio fight at the end of the movie. And you know, but I'm there were number Yeah, yeah, did fucking dance number Like, but I'm I think, I am not think, I know, I am more with you, Mike, like I I enjoyed it because it's just I don't know, I and Mike, this might wrinkle you a little bit.

I go back to the joker, folly ado of it all. Like, I'm kind of more content to watch weird failures of movies at this point than Deadpool Wolverine, which I was like, I will probably never watch again because I've seen so many clips of it on YouTube and everything else now of just everything from that movie over and over again that I'm sick and tired of hearing about it, and I would rather just watch a failure of a movie that is at least fucking bizarre and is bizarre and knows it's bizarre, then one of these highly polished MCU movies that, again, Deadpool Wolverine was all about the cameos. That's ended up what it was being about the movie. The plot of that movie was Threadbar, as Threadbar is the plot of this movie is in a lot of ways, that movie was just trying to do something different.

This movie's trying to get to a big symbio fight at the end of the movie. That's what this movie is trying to get to, and dead Pool Wolverine is trying to get to a scene where there's a bunch of characters walking on screen that you've never seen before or have seen before, and now they're in the MCU. I'm I would rather watch a movie that just kind of fails spectacularly that a movie that feels like, oh, it's this highly polished product that is fine, But at the end of the day, I go back to this problem that I've had with Star Wars and other Marvel stuff. You guys have how much money? Yeah?

Can I just got Chris. I'm sorry to jump in, but this movie costs one hundred and twenty fucking million dollars. So it's actually wildly offensive to me because all of the weird choices they're making all feel like they're fucking marketing choices. It all feels like safe things, like audiences like this will do this, and this is weird and this is offbeat, and you know. But it all does anymore, right, it all does even.

I mean like dead Pool Wolverine all feels like safe choices, is my point, Like all of its safe choices now, which is a fucking shame. I think Deadpool Wolverine was making better choices than this movie was making more outlandist choices. That movie starts with the lead character using the other characters Spine and Skull, to decimate and bludgeon and kill a bunch of characters like this movie would. Never do that, and that's kind of the high point of that movie. No, I like that, you know what, there's a plot going on in that movie.

And I liked Wolverine. That was finally good use of a multiverse where we took a Wolverine. It was total fucking failure and at least gave him a bit of redemption by the end. Like, I liked that arc, particularly after the downer of Logan. But yeah, most for me, well, I like the desire to jumping on the Deadpool Wolverine really entertaining piece of It's like a really nice one shot, forty eight page comic that I would get when I was a kid.

It's like, here's this team up and it's gonna be a lot of fun and you're gonna have a really good time where you're gonna really remember Wolverine's. Costume with the end. So probably not for the right reasons. Well, he's got the you know, it's a full comic book accurate Wolverine costume share it does. Yeah, that's about it.

Like that's not the most memorable thing that he's got, but I still think it was fun. But it's not I think this movie is as fun as that one. Me personally here, I mean, I don't know, Mike. I mean I think you and I are more on the same page with Venom. Did you enjoy this as much as you enjoyed that pol Wolverine.

I think I enjoyed the Pool Wolverine more. But to your point, I think I would rewatch this one sooner than I would did Pull Wolverine, just because I kind of know it, you know, like nothing. Once I learned who the cameos were and saw those come to life, it's like, okay, there there are some good moments to it, but not nearly for me as many good moments as this one. I kind of do like the riding of the horse, of course, it reminds me of the riding and the motorcycle from the first one. I like the symbiote fight.

I even like the fight on top of the airplane, which was ridiculous. It is interesting when I was done watching this movie, the overly loud, drunk asshole behind me those there's probably five hours worth of this movie on the cutting room floor. We barely saw any of this, and I'm like, what are you talking about? There's nothing that was left at the cutting room floor with us other than maybe they made a change, because in the trailer, I seem to remember debris coming down from space and I guess it's those would you guys call them xenophages. Yeah, so I'm like, oh, okay, or yeah, they showed that, and they show somebody at a telewou well sorry, PM, she's a telescope looking and I'm like, oh, okay, well that's how they get to Earth.

Or maybe this is more symbiotes. I honestly thought it was more symbiotes when I saw the trailer. But okay, there's nothing left on the cutting room floor. Dude, tell me what you think wasn't resolved by this, because other than a little bit more or oh there's black goo remaining at the end, there's nothing here that suggests there's a longer movie. For me, I don't know about.

You, guys. No, I think it should have been much much shorter well. And I think maybe some of that comes from the character of Noel. Just feeling if there is an issue that I really have with this movie, for me, it is that character of no being introduced, and it's that feels like the Roman Bridger ret coon of this movie where it's like there's been this whole thing this whole time, and it's like, come on, I both Scream three makes the joke about the ret con and like going back and ret conning the first two movies, and that is what this movie does with the Noll character. It's like, there is a bigger threat and the symbiotes aren't the bad guys, like oh oh okay, like way to kind of pull a lot of what made the first two movies interesting was that the symbiotes didn't necessarily, you know, align on the side of these are like oddly good characters.

It was, you know, carnage you. Had whoever the guy was. Yeah, Toxin in the last one. Who Also, that's my other issue with this movie. What a weird usage of that character given what his given what he is in the comic books, which is talk about a usage of a character that is far from what the character in the comic book is.

Toxin in the comic book is essentially just like he's good, that he's venom, who's good From the start. Essentially, it's the same setup of he's a cop, but he's a cop who gets a symbiotective mulligan here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, top, thank you, thank you, somebody finally explaining what Chris is talking about. Sorry, I didn't understand what you were asking, Mike. My bad, Well, my bad, because I realized that they never say the name of the character in the movie.

That's the issue, and so say with agony, the character that Juno Temple ends up the symbiote that she ends up playing. They never say the character's name in the movie either. That's purely from the comic books, that's purely from the separation anxiety storyline. The annoying thing about adding Null to this is that, uh, that seems like every character, every conversation is about Null. It's about symbiote explaining this this horrible threat that we never get to fucking deal with.

That just showed up in this movie. Yeah, and it's like they've known about this this whole time. They even mentioned multiple times he's older than the universe itself, and they haven't mentioned him up into this point. That's fucking lazy. That's a hell of a ret con.

And like I said, that for me, is the biggest failure of this movie is that that is that the movie isn't just the end of the Venom Eddie Brock's storyline. This movie, for me, the biggest failure is that it sets up more movies, not that I don't want them, but to your point, Father Malone, and to everyone's point, it doesn't feel like a movie that's self contained, and that for me is kind of the biggest failure of the movie is that it should have been the venom story. And to your point before Father alone about Deadpool making you know, broader choices, I actually disagree. I think Deadpool Wolverine would have been a better movie if Wolverine hadn't been in it, because it would have been a weirder movie because it would have been a Deadpool movie or station with that title.

It would have been really weird try well. I mean, that would have been great in and of itself, but if it had just been a Deadpool three, I think it would have been a more interesting movie, and they had to undercut a lot of it for the Wolverine of it all. And I think similarly in this movie, it should have just been a venom movie with some sort of threat that had been somewhat pre established. They kind of established it at the end of the last movie. Why wasn't it just the Danny Rojas character as the final villain or something to that effect.

Instead they had to go and rope Andy serkis into this. That for me is the biggest failure. And to your point, it's like Antonio said, it's a cut away to something else, like all of a sudden, CGI bullshit, and then we're back to read well again, there is CGI bullshit with the Venom character, but all of that with Null is taking place where Vecna is in Stranger Things. It's like this fucking other thing that's all CGI. And you have a person standing on a green screen going pretend like you're scared or sit in a chair.

And I think it hurts the plot of the movie because it should have just been the culmination of the Eddie Venom story and introducing this new threat that will continue on past this movie is like, why even have Venom die if he's just clearly gonna come back? You know, I'm what is this the walking Dead all of a sudden? But I like a point to. The point you made about dead Pool Wolverine though, because instead of getting Deadpool invading the Marvel universe, invading the MCU and barreling his way through Iron Man movies and Captain America movies and Halt movies and just being a nuisance to all the established characters. Now we're just burrowing through these, all these very Wolverine.

Yeah, you make a very valid born. I can't really disagree with get there. It's it's unfortunate, Like it's I'm not saying dead Pool Wolverine is a bad movie. It's a good movie for what they may. Yeah, but it being Deadpool three, they undercut the movie by it being a Wolverine movie.

And same with this movie, because we have no I just I was shocked when that ended up being a thing they revealed in one of the late trailers for this movie, because I was like, holy shit, Like why are they doing this in this movie? This is such a big deal in the comic books. It's like doing Red Skull in the first Captain America movie. What were you thinking? Now, it's like, why are you doing this in the third movie when ostensibly it's supposed to be the end of the trilogy.

Unless you're signaling, which they are, there will be more of these movies. Well, I've gotten to the point now where I don't trust the mid credits and end credits sequences just because so many of them have been ignored over the years. And not to say that I'm waiting for Harry Styles to enter the MCU or any of these other bullshit end scenes that they've had over the years. But bred gold speaking of Ted Lasso, had Brett Goldstein thor level. But yeah, I.

Agree that Nol was just really poorly done. And you know you mentioned his face. I didn't see his face. I mean at the end of maybe yeah, the very end, yes, But otherwise I'm looking at the guy's hairline and I'm just like, what is this guy's problem is? Does he emit sound from the center of his forehead?

How does this work? But yeah, that was I agree that that was not a wise choice to have that as the big bad. Have somebody else trying to hunt then or something, maybe even the guy from the first movie comes back and does something. And to your point about Deadpool and Wolverine, I mean, at least Vanessa shows up for a few minutes. They don't Fridger like they did in the second film.

But my god, the it was always so amazing to see the caliber of actors in these Venom films, and this one is no exception. I love all of the actors that we've mentioned so far, but even in you know, the previous films, having Michelle Williams as Eddie's girlfriend, it's like, what. Are you doing here? Why? How are you doing?

You're like astro you with sheep then of risks, she was sheep at him at one point too. Even better, I don't know what is but man, when women start wearing these symbio skins, yeah, look out, I'm I got to cover my lap, you know what I'm saying. I agree with you guys. As far as like the end of a trilogy, this is a terrible way to end to trilogy, as was the Deadpool Weight to end a trilogy. Uh, if you want to end a series of films and set up a bunch of other stuff, Marvel already did that with Captain America's Civil War, because that tells that that completes his story with Bucky, which is the sort of thrust of that entire series, and it had it's a completely self contained story, and at the end of it, the shield is fucking smashed to pieces, and there's places to go, there's.

A million threads that can be drawn from it. So you know, y on' fuck about when you're going to do the third movie. I wonder though, and here's something that maybe we should ask ourselves in twenty twenty four. Do trilogy rules apply anymore? Is that a thing?

Because if you're going to make three movies, then yes they do. No. But I'm asking a different question. If we're going to make three movies, does that necessarily mean we don't make a fourth at this day and age, That's what I'm asking twenty thirty years ago, Yeah, Indiana Jones three, that's it. We got three movies, a trilogy of films.

Alien had a quadrilogy. But my toyaying, like I'm wondering if this is just the way that we think about movies needs to somewhat shift based on the MCU because of the way the MCU has been doing storytelling, because everything is kind of interconnected, there isn't at least with the best of the MCU stuff. And look, I'm going to have a hot take here and I don't really care if people disagree. I think the MCU should have ended at Endgame because a lot of the stuff since has been. You said diminishing returns, Father Malone?

What has a big no no diminishing returns? Is this movie, buddy, not the. But when we have things like the Eternals or yeah that was bad, yeah, or Love and Thunder Yeah, quantum Mania, I know, but I know, Father Malone, you enjoy quantum Mania for kind of how weird it is. And I think Quantumnia is interesting for how weird it is. But I think for the MCU, they haven't really made a case for me why they didn't.

Let me heard this way, it's not a hot take, I get it. For me, they haven't made a case as to why they continued past Endgame because the multiverse stuff has been so muddled and directionless, and because of the Jonathan Majors of it all, unfortunately, they've had to really hardcore pick on everything and now we're seeing like, oh, Robert Towny Junr Is Doctor Doom and all that, and that's fine. But for me, mean, the MCU after Endgame has done very little to justify like why they didn't just kind of stop and reset again. I know they wouldn't because again, that's not something you do in movies as much as comic books. Saturday Noight Live should have ended in nineteen eighty Michael's in the original cast of Saturday Night Dead.

Oh lord, what do you want. Me to say? Man? Like, no, I get it, I get it. But they've had thirty movies and the last seven have been bad.

That's almost a third. I mean, that's a lot. That is a lot good and they're bad. Movies are fucking twenty times better than this movie, you know what? In fact, any I don't know if I agree with that one.

Okay, fine, put any of the Marvel movies against any of the Sony movies since they've been doing their bullshit, Like what's the worst time to see you? What's the worst MCU movie by your approximation? The fucking Love and Thunder movie. Okay, So, first off, I'd like to point out that is a post endgame movie. Yeah, okay, alright.

Right, right right? But I think okay, so let me ask a different question. What's the worst MCU movie per your approximation pre endgame Dark World? This movie is worse than four Dark World. This movie is worse than thoor A Dark World, Yes, thor door Ah, this fucking committed to its story.

You know what? It might be clumsy, it might be you know, like a. Little bit long winded and a little bit muddled in its direction at times, but I never felt like, what the fuck is going on here? Why is Eddie Brock standing behind the bar fucking making a tequila with fucking tentacles right now? Well, what's his name?

Just sucking stands they're going with, Oh are you kidding? Well, that's because again, I think it goes back to the idea that I'm convinced this entire movie is just what would be funny to see venom do? That's all this, Like I said, it feels like a very vignette sitcom movie. Right, and I feel about it like I feel like escaped from La where they were like, wouldn't it be funny if we degrade Snake Bliskin in this way? Let's tie him to a to a treadmill?

Won't that be hilarious? No? Well, and again I understand, I underst stand and completely agree with you feeling that way. Again, I think that the just you know, again, Mike and I clearly are enjoying that a little bit more. But I can understand because this movie is not necessarily making itself easy to like because it is kind of all over the place.

It really is like it's again when you have a Venom movie where people are being chewed up and spit out, but at the same time we have Venom, you know, joking and laughing but then biting people's heads off. The movie doesn't I don't think these movies have ever really known what they want to be. But I also think that that may be some of that is just the Tom Hardy of it all, because he's such to everyone's point. He's such a specific actor whose presence is so kind of his own thing. I kind of just almost chalk this up to this is just a Tom Hardy movie too.

Ultimately, imagine, would these movies be this way if Tom Hardy wasn't Venom. No, I don't think they would. They might be a little bit closer to the way the character was in the comic books, because even Morbius is closer to the comic book version of Morbius than Venom is to the Venom version. To the Venom in the comic books, even a Damn Web in a lot of ways is closer than Venom ever gets in the movies to the comic book version. Movies really only work when the monster's on When Venom's on screen, because as the character has the floating head or is the creature, that character is fully realized and is funny.

It's not the Venom, it's not my venom. I guess the way to put what I grew up in the comic, but the character on screen really works. I almost wish these weren't related to the Spider Man comics they grew up with. Yeah, and I could probably enjoy it more. You know what.

This almost feels like these could have and should have been an adaptation of the Darkness comic book, because that is almost the way that these characters, the Venom character is treated, because in those comic books, it's like the Crow, this mobster dies and then he's brought back to life by this kind of spirit that bonds himself to him. And then he comes back to life and he wanders New York getting revenge on the people that killed him and his girlfriend. But he has this like tenderly spirit that comes out of him that eats people's hands and he can use it to slash their throats and stuff. There were two Fantastic Xbox three sixty games that you could play that had the darkness. I believe the lead singer of Faith No More actually voiced the us see I hear that game.

I even hear that game. Yeah, I was a fudder hit the little guys they would shootout. Yeah. But that's what this reminds me more of than anything else. And again that's not Venom.

But at the same time, if you want to do this, there is already somewhat of a precedent in another comic book for having this, because that's what the externalized head talking to him reminded me of. Because in that comic book, the tendrils kind of come out of him and they kind of talk to him, and they have that same thing here. And it's weird because it's such a specie thing from something else that is kind of ripping off Venom. It's like it's very much just another Venom sque character. I believe that's I don't know what imfrind that is.

It's on DC or Marvel, might be dark Horse even, but that's actually more what this reminds me. You. This entire series of movies feels like they when they started, they were like, what do fans want from Venom? They want him chomping people's heads off, and then the rest of the movie is crafted to allow that to happen, so it becomes a wacky comedy. The scene where he chomps four guys heads off in this movie is precipitated by him and Venom trying to say we are Venom in unison ha ha, and then which they did.

In the first movie with no problem. So right years ago, I did that in the first movie. Yesterday, when I was rewatching, I was like, why did they forget how to do that over the time? So, because it's not that much time has passed the first movie according to this universe trailer, Baby, that's right. Well, so I've got two questions.

One is having not been to Vegas in several years, and hopefully I will see you in a couple weeks here far them alone when I head out there. But do they do fireworks displays and fireworks just showing up out of nowhere? Like all the time on weekends there are fireworks? Okay, all right, I was very curious about that. You know, you know what, this movie's the first movie took place in like what twenty eighteen.

I think is that when it came out and they say that two years have passed it right right. There was no sphere in Las Vegas in twenty twenty, so. They should have painted that out that I got probably, And there's a big it looks like a ferris wheel there too, that was here. Okay, I haven't been out there since I think twenty eleven. So anyway.

The other thing is do you think that the guy who's sitting next to Tom Hardy when he's pulling in the slot machine handle, do you think he's supposed to look like Martin SCORSESEI at a real quick glance, because every single time I saw him in the trail, I was just. Like, is that supposed to be Martin scuss I don't know that he was Martin Scares In this story. He reminded me of the guy in casino, the one that that Ginger tries to scam. Who is a guy I used to see in casinos all the time, and and if you said anything to him, you said hi, go, he would always say thank you, so thank you. I think you confirm this because I had a similar experience with that guy.

He worked in the Aurum. I believe in a fancy then suit store. Seeing Jeremy Piven he little rush Our too comedy for you. If you guys remember Jeremy Pivens heavily gay coded character from Rushower two. Oh, I was coded headed.

That's a deep cut. But yeah, that dude's a Vegas local. I guess he was a local actor. That's a slave to fame. I don't know what to deal with that character in the casino is, but yeah, what a odd choice to have.

Just like this guy, they might as well have had an Elvis impersonator sitting at a slot machine next to him. Like they should have. And by the way, that's another thing that the bunks and movies where characters can move faster than you know, normal human speed and they're operating machines, the machines can't Like they did this, And when they introduced Quicksilver in Days of Future Pass, like at one point he's playing pong and he's playing pong at like lightning speed, but like the machine wouldn't be going at lightning speed, Like the same with the slot machine, like bang on it all you want, that's just going to fucking tilt the thing and have security throw you out. So the day that I did background on it, I think, or the couple of days I did on it.

The dress was you know, maybe flashy, you know, bear in Vegas. But they had a specific call for like drag queens, Elvis guys, jugglers, anything that really stands out. Nuns and if you're watching the movie you can kind of see them kind of in the background peppered in there, but they're They had very specific calls for very generic Las Vegas stylele folks for it. So jugglers, but not crusty jugglers. Not crusty, rusty joggler, crusty chub piers.

The director good. That's all I can think of when I think of the We're on a very unexciting part of the then there's like in a parking, Like he turn to the parking at the Paris. It wasn't super exciting where they were, so make it entertaining. What else do we want to talk about? Venom free The.

Craft service was very good though, Ala you're a wealthy it. Yes, I saw somebody losing their shit online and I'm so glad somebody screen grabbed this. They were very mad about the poster because the posters woke because it says till death do they partol Fosters. Yep, it can't approve of Venom's pronoun usage. No, no, Well, until we come back and talk about another new movie, which I don't think we have any picked out yet, and there's nothing really that's exciting me about the rest of the year.

We'll have to decide that off air. But until we come back and do that, I want to thank this week's guests and co hosts here. So Antonio, when you're an actor in this, what are you doing? I am an indie movie director on my movie Space Detective came out a few years ago. It's a weird psychedelic live action animation hybrid is a trip and I have a few shorts that now.

And you show at Living Beds playing film festivals and Gridlin the forty eight Hour Film Festival next weekend. But you can check us out at Swamp Media groupman at Swap Media. Group on Instagram. How about you feather them alone. Check me in at Weirdingwaymedia dot com.

My podcast Midnight Viewing twice a week. We do horror anthologies, we do regular anthologies, we keep bonus episodes, we do a whole lot. Go go check that out. Oh and check out. I'm a co host with HP's show Night mister Walters the Taxi Podcast check that one out as well.

And Chris, how about yourself? Oh, you know, I'm just keeping up with all the other audio things that I do over Weirdingwaymedia dot com, where this show and all the others they work on. Kim be found been doing the Culture Cast for a decade now, that's a long time. So yeah, that's where you can find all the stuff that I work on. What about you, Mike?

Wait? Well, as for me, everything that I do is available at Readingwaymedia dot com. So if you want to hear me shooting out my mouth over there, please do other than the one show that Chris and I do that is only available via our patreons, which is the ranking on Bond podcast. And we recently had Father Malone on there to talk about Live. No, talk about yeah Live and Ye was like, that's the wrong song.

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