Tron: Ares (2025) — "End of line."

Weird way. Time magazine calls it a vision of the movie's future, cites that no I, no camera has ever before beheld up. I finds it utterly news vividly exciting, a trip and a half. Newsweek describes it as some where you've never been, a brave new world set inside a computer. No movie has ever looked like this before.

Omney calls it an imaginative, spectacular film. Tron rated PG now playing a Man's Chinese Hollywood, Man's west Wood and other selected theaters. Kevin Flynn was reported missing today. He was last scene with his son Sam. Sam.

I was Paige last night. I came from your dad's office. Numbers been disconnected for twenty years. Where am I am? I jam Dad.

We have to get you out of here. It's not that easy, said here they come. I'm not going home without you. Drawn legacy. I've created mankind's most advanced artificial intelligence, the world's most dangerous weapon.

I can think for itself here. Think you're in control of this, John, I came here from the digital world. I'm looking for something, something you've discovered. So you've been saying on me. I was directed to kill you.

Hacking seems pretty tame by comparison. My world is coming and they are going to destroy yours. Oh my god, there's hundreds of them. Drawn ares, rated PG. Thirteen, Get tickets now only in theaters October ten, film for IMAX.

At some point in my life, twenty ten may not have seemed like a long time ago, but at this point in my life, twenty ten is fifteen years ago, which is inexhausting an amount of time in a lot of ways, primarily for the reason of the lack of time that it's the length of time rather that it's been since a Tron sequel came out is fifteen years, and fifteen years doesn't seem like a long time. But given that the original Tron came out in nineteen eighty two, and the sequel came out in twenty ten, and then the other sequel comes out in twenty twenty five, we have a span of time that is forty three years. And those forty three years have seen technology change quite a bit, and we've gone from Tron, which was as eighties as it comes, to Tron Legacy, which in a lot of ways was as late two thousands, early oughts as it comes, and then Tron aries, which man really feels like a twenty twenty five movie.

And while the second movie's title may be about legacy, I actually feel like the third movie is about legacy as well, but in a different kind of direction. And the thing that is always so interesting for me about something like Tron and watching you know, a sequel that came out in the twenty tens, which is you know, two years to two years into the iPhone being out, you know, to see how far technology has come even since then, and it feels like, you know, we're Tron Legacy is so passe in a way, and it feels like, you know, another lifetime ago, as it were, And what's you know, crazy about Tron legacy and Tron airies and just life in general in terms of the length of time passing and you know, blinking one day and it's been fifteen years and there's a new Tron sequel, is I had actually Tron coming out the original legacy that the original sequel came out before kind of my life became my life.

I guess in a lot of ways, twenty ten was I was twenty years old, I hadn't met my ex wife, I hadn't gotten three dogs, I hadn't moved to a break. I hadn't even finished college at the University of North Texas. I wasn't even at the university or with Texas for that matter. I was actually still at the University is Columbia College in Columbia, Missouri, Jesus Christ, and I was still up there. I was still contemplating trying to figure out a way to get back to Texas.

And I saw Tron Legacy with some friends that I would later go to India with at the AMC North Park in Dallas, Texas. AMC North Park is a hell of a theater. I actually went to the AMC North Park to see Hot Fuzz, the premiere of Hot Fuzz at AFI Dallas, and I got to meet Simon Peg and Nick Frost with a very good high school friend of mine, who I think likes Tron as much as I do, if not probably more. You know, Tron Legacy is a movie that has a very special place in my heart, not just because it's kind of a marker in time for me, but also the daft punk of it all, also the Tron of it all. You know, liking Tron at one point was not cool talking about the original one, not the sequel.

And I'm not sure liking Tron has ever been cool. I'm not sure how Tron has has has it has had as many sequels as it has, with may has making as little money as it has and given the kind of weird chicanery with the new film and the Jared Leto of it all, which boy, any time Jared Leto's involved in anything, there's gonna be something going on. It's it's weird to me that Tron is a thing, but it's weird to me that Tron is not a thing because it is a thing, but it's not a thing. And they keep trying to make it a thing, but it is a thing, but it's not a thing. And it was Deadpool before Deadpool.

And while they didn't leak the footage, they essentially had test footage at Comic Con in like two thousand and eight, and if you know what I'm talking, if you know, you know, it's a teaser trailer that came out of nowhere and it had Jeff Bridges in it, and it was essentially a proof of constant similar to the Deadpool kind of footage that ends up getting the Deadpool film made, which Ryan Reynolds finally copped to shocking, said nobody, Jesus, Ryan, Jesus, Ryan Reynolds. At this point, why would anybody be surprised you leaked it. There'd be no repercussions. You've made the company billions of dollars, my guy, Like chill, it's fine, Like nobody cares. This was a little bit more above board.

And when you're talking Disney in the in the late two thousands, early aughts, everything is done above board. This was done before they acquired Star Wars, which is kind of why Star Star Wars and Tron Legacy feel very one and the same. I mean, Tron Legacy feels like a early aughts, late two thousand's legacy sequel, if not the legacy sequel in a lot of ways, like rewatching it. So much of now's legacy sequels are kind of rooted in this. Again, like I don't want to say this is the progenitor of it, because I think this would be giving Tron Legacy too much credit.

But I also don't think it would be unfair to say something like Tron Legacy deserves a spot in the better legacy sequel discussion, because now that that kind of conversation is willed out. Over fifteen years since this movie came out, I think that there have been a glut of legacy sequels that have not done a very good job, including Star Wars. I would actually say Tron Legacy takes more chances than Star Wars does, and it's a little bit more irreverent with the source material than Star Wars ever was. I think that, you know, if you went into Tron Legacy expecting the original Tron movie, which again was not a hit when it came out, so the love for it is purely reversed nostalgia based. I don't understand why anyone needs to be reverent with the source material.

I mean, yes, Ghostbusters was a hit, but do we need to be reverent with the source material? No, for fuck's sake, you can watch a movie with the proton packs, but we don't have to have Egon's ghosts showing up in the last frames of the movie. And I love Ghostbus, but it's just at some point it becomes masturbatory, and I think Tron Legacy is a better balance of fan service, you know, whatever you want to call it. You know, the nostalgia bating and new ideas being executed, and I think those new ideas are kind of why the movie is all over the place because a lot of them don't land, but a lot of them again don't expect a lot of things to land. You know it it Tron Legacy in a lot of ways feels like a second draft, maybe not a third draft, and you know, there is an interesting story there.

I actually think the story of Tron Legacy is interesting with the you know, the father and the three creations with Kora, his son Sam, and then Clue the you know, the digital Avatar, and in a lot of ways, it is a story of legacy that makes good on the title of legacy in a way that like it's you know, it's kind of signaling what it is ahead of time, which isn't a bad thing. Star Wars The Force Awakens is, in my opinion, like the worst example of mass distribatory fan service. And it's not that I do or don't like Star Wars Force Awakens. I've done an episode on each of those Star Wars you know sequels when they came out, including Force Awakens, within like an hour of seeing the movie, and in a private screening with my friends family because they their dad loved Star Wars so much that they rented out the ipic feeder for us to watch it.

And now we all loved it at the time. Like I'm not even gonna pretend that we didn't. There's a whole episode with me and my friend James, who I went to the movie with, with my friend Brian, who loves Star Wars. We all love Star Wars. It's not a matter of loving Star Wars.

It's just a matter of being exhausted at the way these ips or franchises are being handled by people, because in a lot of ways, like the reverence to the source material is needed in some respect, but I wouldn't say, like, let's treat it like fucking gospel, for God's sakes. And in a lot of ways, I think the people that are disappointed by something like Tron Legacy are disappointed that it's not I don't I don't know what people were expecting with Tron Legacy, frankly, like you got a movie that's a sequel to Tron that did like again, that didn't even feel like it was ever really going to happen. I mean, it had been talked about for fucking years. I mean it had been talked about since the original one came out, I mean essentially since the nineties.

Uh, they had talked about another Tron movie, and Tron, you know, had even been discussed as being a Pixar thing in nineteen ninety nine. So you know, there was a sequel video game that came out that you know, reminiscent of speaking of Ghostbusters with the Ghostbusters video Game, which is still the best Ghostbusters sequel of anything that's ever come out, no offense to any of the movies, and I actually like Frozen Empire, but I think the video game is still the best sequel thing of Ghostbusters ever come out. And again, you can engage with it in a much longer kind of format. It's not in just three hours. They're not forcing everything back into it.

There's no JK. Simmons's evo shandor yes that's a thing that actually happened and didn't need to happen for that matter. But you know, Tron is one of those things where you know, the source material wasn't something that people were banging on the door to have anyways. It was a very small group of people. And so you know, there was a sequel video game that did really well that people kind of vibed with.

But again, it didn't move the needle enough to make a movie. It took someone like Joseph Kazinski going, all right, if we can get a concept trailer together and launch it at the right place, which again Comic Con, Yeah, is the right fucking place. You know. They were like, let's let's do something with Tron, and let's just premiere it at Comic Con, and let's see what the response is and if the response is overwhelmingly positive and people are you know, kind of you know, if the if the needle moves, we'll do something with it. And the needle move pretty substantially, I remember, you know, at the time, and I again, I'm not as dialed into the pop culture world as I used to be, but I still try to be as much as I can, just you know, for the sake of not trying to feel like an old fuddy duddy, which you know, I mean again, I feel like I'm fighting that at every step of the step of my life.

At this point, my girlfriend found gray hairs in my temples, So you know, we're we are we are now in the getting gray hairs aspect of life, which is perfectly fine. I actually I welcome it. But you know, I'm trying to fight the feeling like an old, out of touch fuddy duddy. So I try to keep in touch with the pop culture news of the time. And you know, I remember Tron Legacy's teaser trailer coming out and feeling it feeling important, it feeling like a thing that was like, holy shit, Tron a Tron sequel, And you know, again, it's one thing to have a Tron sequel with Jeff Bridges coming back.

You know, say what you will about Garrett Headland. I actually like Garrett Headland. I'm sure a lot of people get him and Joel Kiddiman confused with one another, and I think that's kind of unfair because Garrett Headlin has been in a lot less things than Joel Kinneman in terms of visibility for most people. Joel Kineman was in the Suicide Squad recently. The last thing Garrett Headland was really in, I mean the marsh King's Daughter featuring speaking of Star Wars Daily, Daisy Ridley.

Sure, and I know he was. People have told me that he does a rather good job in Inside Llewellyn Davis, but he hasn't really been in anything as high profile as Tron Legacy, and in a lot of ways, it feels like maybe Tron Legacy kind of derailed his rise, and in a lot of people's eyes, I don't actually think it did. In reality, I think he is nowhere near the actual problem with Tron Legacy. I think Tron Legacy is just not a kind of focused script. I think it's just kind of all over the place in in terms of a script, in terms of a movie, in terms of a sequel to a original product, that they're trying to get new people in the door, because ultimately it should have been more about getting new people in the door, and I think it actually does a very good job of that by crafting a new world around the original world of Tron.

I guess I just don't know how many people really wanted that. And with what ends up happening now with Tron Aries, the movie that just came out, which I will be talking about and I will be trying not to spoil, but let's just be honest here, I'm gonna spoil it, so if you haven't seen it, I'm gonna spoil it. I don't I mean, I think at this point, it needs people going to see it pretty badly if we're gonna get anything else Tron ever again. And it kind of doesn't seem like we're gonna get anything else Tron at this point, because I don't think there's any amount of begging people to go see it that could change the like one hundred million dollar deficit that the movie is currently sitting at, because as of right now, it has an estimated budget of one hundred and eighty million dollars in a box office take of sixty nine which is really bad.

I mean that's like really bad. Even the original movie didn't The original movie didn't even bomb. The original sequel made double its money back, a little bit more than double its money back. The budget was one hundred and seventy million in the box office of four hundred and nine million. I think a little bit a bit of that was people being excited for a Tron sequel.

I think that the Tron teaser trailer helped. I think the daft punk of it all actually really helped as well. I think people weren't as jaded then as they are now. I actually think Tron Aries will in the long run find its audience. I actually think Tron Aries is a pretty fun movie.

I think it's a fun movie. I don't think it needs to be more than that. I think there's a lot of interesting ideas in tron Aries. I know frequent collaborator Father Malone did not want to see the real world of and Tron, and we were joking about the pixels of it all in in an offline conversation about Tron when we were trying to figure out if we should cover Tron. Mike White and Father Malone and I were debating covering Tron and we couldn't make it happen.

But I ended up watching it myself, and so I wanted to talk about it. But I do understand the I have no interest in seeing the real world of Tron, the real world land Tron rather and you know, I get it. I actually think in Tron areas it's done rather well. It's done kind of in an interesting way. It's not done in the way that I was expecting.

There's some kind of weird arbitrary things like it only allowing twenty nine minutes of lifespan on the you know, digitally created things, be it tanks or aries, the kind of master control that they can conjure into the real world the Master Control program. So it's the reverse of the original two movies. They're bringing programs into the real world as opposed to going into the you know grid or the Dyllinger grid in this movie, and I get it. I'm personally kind of on board with it only because it's kind of it had the opportunity to kind of be Terminator without being Terminator, which again could have been interesting if given the opportunity with and the right audience. But y'all, kim running just I don't think was given a fair shake because the movie wasn't supposed to be this.

It was supposed to be something else. It was supposed to be a movie called tron Ascension, and that movie doesn't exist because Jared Leto got involved and Jared Leto took over the project, and because he was a producer, and because he's a producer, they made the movie that he wanted to make, which is this movie, which is tron Aries, and it's all about the Aris character. The Aris character was not the focus of the original script. The original script is more kind of Aris as kind of a character in the script, not the focus of the script, which is you know. I mean, again, we've seen things like this before where characters kind of you know, seem like they're not necessarily supposed to be the focus of the movie and because someone gets involved.

I mean, you could make the case that a movie like Morbius has no point existing the way that it does other than the fact that Jared Leto is in it. Morbius should have had a superhero attached to him, because he's not a big enough character. But yet the Jared Letto of it all, or again, the Suicide Squad of it all, the Jared Letto of the Suicide Squad, his involvement in the movie is actually hurts the movie more than it helps it. And what's funny is you could make the case that Jared Leto hurts this franchise by being involved with it the way he is, by producing the movie and saying, all right, we're gonna do a movie about a character that, again, I have an interest in playing, and so therefore I want to be involved in the movie, and I want him to have a bigger part.

And because I want to play this character, of course he has to have a bigger part. And so the Jared Letto of it all is now this is the focus of the movie. It's the subtitle of the goddamn film tron Airy, which is fine. However, if you don't vibe with Jared Leto, you're not gonna vibe with this movie. And it's a very Jared Leto performance, but in a way that I actually kind of enjoyed.

And it's a Jared Leto performance in the sense that he goes full method acting on the robot of it all, Like he really pulls off I think the robot program, you know, can quickly access information, is a sentient program. I mean, there's a little bit of Evan rachel Wood from Westworld in there. Like there's a lot of these kind of newer ideas with AI and programs that Terminator kind of feels pass a when those movies try to do it. And I actually think that this movie does a better job of being Terminator than Terminator recently has in terms of bridging the divide between how do we have the real world and the AI program world interact with each other in a way that feels like there are actual stakes and that it feels dangerous.

That's the thing that this movie, because again it's a Disney movie, doesn't really get at and it's the part that I think could have actually really been interesting, which is how fucking terrifying it is to have to deal with the programs who are unfeeling uncaring, you know, again, unable to do anything other than execute on their expectations to the point of killing characters that don't deserve to die. But again, like it proves a point of like, this is what I'm expected to do. You're asked me to do it, so I'm gonna do it. I mean, there's a little bit of that or a lot of that in tron Legacy with Clue, where Clue is asked to do something and then you know, the chase for perfection destroys the good and Clue and turns Clue evil because this, you know, the the pursuit of perfection is inherently kind of you know, you realize that if you're pursuing perfection, sometimes you have to make decisions that aren't necessarily the best one in the pursuit of something that may not even be attainable, and the pursuit of perfection, you know, I mean, look at someone like Thanos.

You know, I have to destroy half of the universe to save the universe, like, well, that's great and all, but that doesn't have to be the end all, be all best way to solve things. And Clue and tron Legacy is the same thing. Clue is essentially digital Hitler. He you know, wants to wipe out all the programs that don't agree with his mindset with that don't agree with his way of doing things, that don't agree with the digital kind of frontier that he's crafting, which again is the one that Jeff Bridges as Kevin Flynn is asking him to craft. But it's you know, it's not the way it was supposed to be.

It's not the future the way it's supposed to be. Clue is gotten corrupted by the kind of attainment of power because you know, Clu looks at the ISOs, the kind of aberrant evolutions in the code as lesser than and so the ISOs need to be wipe out. And you know, the lesser than or different among us being needing to be wiped out is very topical in twenty twenty five, given the state of things, Given the state of things and the feelings of people towards other people for no fucking good reason, looking at you racist out there, all of you racist. Clue is a digital racist. He sees the supremacy of the code of the original idea as it was written.

There is no evolution, There is no movement of the idea. There is no furtherance, There is no evolution beyond the programming. The programming is. The programming is the programming in any aberration outside of that needs to be destroyed. It shouldn't be talked to or looked at or even discussed.

It needs to be erased and wiped away. And that is very binary thinking, and tron legacy is all about looking at the world through non binary eyes and looking at the world through the idea that the world doesn't need to have a decision made of ones or zeros. You can have the world existing outside of the code. The programming can be fought the programming. You know, sometimes the programming in and of itself creates aberrations that you don't exist.

The isomorphic algorithms that explain religion and again like explain everything. If you transpose that onto our world, you know, there the explanations of the supernatural world and the world that can never be explained, and you know, the the dreams or the human mind, you know, not operating at one hundred percent. And you know what is what is the unlockable capacity of the human mind? You know in tron Areas, you know you can go into the code and have your code you know, corrupted, code uncorrupted, which you know just that you know the possibilities of that alone are you and you know the idea behind that. You know, have so many possibilities to push someone through a digitizer and undigitize them, could fix any aberrations in their code, see that as cancer or a tumor or you know, mental health problems.

I mean again, you know, the ability to solve you know, schizophrenia at a cellular level would be you know, the the franchise rights alone to speaking to ghostblusters of it all. And tron Aris kind of verges on those interesting ideas. I think tron Aris is interested in other things. The idea of this movie, tron Legacy, was probably more present in tront Ascension than it is in tron Aris. Tron Arias is a lot more of a violent movie about a violent a violent takeovers of the code as it were, and given the state of things, given the state of our world, right now, the fact that this movie is red while the original movie is blue, you know, coded blue and then coded red.

H And the fact that in Tron ares when you know, when Aris turns good, he turns blue, or I guess more aptly, he turns kind of blue white, depending on how you can view the original costumes in the original Tron Legacy or the Original Tron sequel, the white piping on the costume that looks you know, kind of against blue blue slash white versus the red or the orange that clues wearing in the in legacy. You know, it's it's very apropos of the times, maybe a little too on the nose if you think about it. I tend not to get super political on the things that I talk about, but the idea of a hostile takeover of a company from the outside by another company who is hell bent on figuring out a code so that they can weaponize the digital sphere, and you know, treat you know, expendable code as expendable, even though there's a possibility that the code is learning and thinking on its own, but it is one hundred percent expendable.

To quote the film, you know, to quote Evan Peters, in the film as Julian Dillinger, who you know, it's it's very obvious you couldn't get Killian Murphy from tron Legacy, so you put you did the next best thing, which is, oh, this is the grandson of of David Warner's character from the original movie, and Killian Murphy is the son of David Warner's character. So this is Jillian Anderson. Is Killian Murphy's sister, question mark? I mean, I guess so she must be. And we never really hear anything about him.

So like that that that that creature, that meme creature that just has its hands in the air, just doesn't know what to do. That's that's what it feels like. I mean, Killian Murphy won an Oscar, so he's he's too he's too high high falutin to be in tron Aris. I'm sure that's not what it is. I mean, I'm sure maybe Toronto Sension had him in the script.

And you know, again, this this movie does feel a little bit if you know the backstory, it does feel a little bit like a Jared Leto Passion project. And you know, again, what's weird is back in the day, something like toys with Barry Levinson and Rob Williams feels more like a passion project, like the fact that a passion project can now be a IP, like a long standing, you know, forty three year old IP like that is now what can be considered a passion project is just putting yourself in a fucking Tron movie. I mean, in a lot of ways, people will you know, maybe scoff at this comparison, but I think it's rather apt comparison. This in a lot of ways is just spiral, but with Jared Leto instead of Chris Rock.

Yeah, spiral from the Book of Tron, you know, you know, aries from the Book of Tron. Like that, that's probably a better, better comparison. But like this is really just like Chris Rock was like I want to be in a Jigsaw movie, and Jared Leto's like, I really like Tron for some reasonly. You know, I couldn't tell you why Jared Leto likes Tron. I you know, I will say that Jared Leto is fifty three fucking years old, so he grew up in the eighties, so you know, he's the right age for somebody you like Tron obviously, and getting involved at the production level, you know, means he must have some interest in Tron.

Look, I will say the visual imagery of Tron is still arresting. Tron aris very arresting. Tron Legacy more arresting because Tron Legacy is a a vibe movie, and Tron Legacy is also be more. The whole fucking movie is in the grid. You know.

The thing about Tron areas that it suffers from is the best parts of the movie are the Grid or the other World, or or Flynn's Grid or Dylander's grid, or however you want to perceive it. Whichever grid that they're in. That's, you know, the visually interesting part of the movie. But we're just not there enough. And because we're not there enough, we you know, feel more like, well, we're just watching a movie set in the modern day kind of Seattle.

I mean again, I'm assuming it's in Seattle. It's probably it's it's set wherever the original movie is set, which seems to be Seattle. I'm assuming again. It looks like Pacific Northwest, so it doesn't look particularly like anything other than a nondescript Pacific Northwestern city. It's a city on the ocean, so there you go, it's not anything interesting, and tron Legacy is an interesting, visually arresting film, and that will always have the edge over something like tron Aris.

Like always, something that's interesting to look at will always be more interesting, just base than something that is not that is just a movie that looks like other movies that you can see again the tron areas of it all like the Arias in the real world of it all, and the tron in the real world of it all like, yes, it's it's not what I would want. I would want more of the Grid, as it were. I struggled to think about what else they could have done on the Grid, given that the whole last movie was said on the Grid, but I hoped they could have come up with something interesting. The original tron Legacy, you know, grid that we see also feels a lot more grounded and real than the one in Aries. Aries just does feel kind of like a CGI set.

Legacy doesn't feel like a CGI set all the time that you know, at the end of the line, Club Flynn's kind of shrine or where he lives, those are all very real sets like those are all very real places, and most of tron Aris just kind of feels like CGI, which you know, I mean again twenty twenty five, all right, Like there's like feels like there's maybe three sets in tron Areas and that's it. In Tron Legacy, it feels like there's a lot more than that. But again, you know, things have changed. Times have changed. You know, the expectations for franchises have changed.

We we can now do things without spending money on real things that we're gonna have to deal with. We can just you know, have a bunch of CGI Tron disc warriors fighting you know, Dyllinger, Grid Sword, Darth Maul, robot men, you know, program fighters. Like it's you know, it's a lot of CGI. It's fun, it's big, it's bombastic. But Tron Legacy I think tells a more interesting kind of personal story.

Tront Aries feels more like, again a kind of an AI retelling of Terminator, And I'm not saying like AI wrote it, but a focus on AI versus robots. So you know, just replace the robots in Terminator with AI and you kind of get tron. Tron Legacy is more about the Kevin Flynn, Sam Flynn Cora Clue relationship and the kind of the four of them as it were interacting with one another, like you know, this movie is more about Evan Peters's character kind of taking over ncome by force and trying to figure out a way to weaponize the grid because again the twenty twenty five of it all, of course it's about you know, weaponizing the tron technology or the grid technology. Of course it's not. It's not what Jeff Bridges and tron Legacy is all about, man, which is you know, the digital frontier and solving you know, world hunger.

You know, again, the idea of putting someone into the grid and taking them out and that fixing their DNA. You know, they talk about it a little bit in tron areas, but they just it's not it's not the focus of this movie. The focus of this movie is Evan Peters being a nasty bad guy and you know, trying to destroy Encom so that he can make hundreds of billions of gazillions of dollars on bringing Tron technology into the real world to turn it into weapons and turn the you know, digital soldiers that die and come back. I mean, it is the West World of it all. Like what would happen if you had a theme park where the people could come and fight, you know, fight and fuck and do whatever they wanted with things that looked like human beings like Pete.

There are some people that would pay forty thousand dollars a day to go do it, which is the price of Westworld to day. And you know, that's kind of another direction you can go with something like tron I mean, you could you could have had people being digitized into the world of Tron to you know, as a digital escape. You could sell that. I mean that's another direction that you could go. But you know the direction they went is the very you know, industrial military complex of it all, where we're just gonna sell you know, tanks to the highest bidder, which is the opening scene with Evan Peters.

You know, look at these tanks that we have, and you know what's better than the perfect tank the perfect soldier to drive it, who's not really a soldier but a program so we feel nothing for him. And again they're quote one expendable unquote. I I don't dislike that or like that. I just kind of feel like it's a little on the nose. I mean, it's just we've seen this before.

It's not very interesting, it's not very original. Trom Legacy has some interesting ideas. Tront Aris is just, I don't know, like tront Aris in a lot of ways, just feels like missing the point of what makes Tron so fun. And you know, with something like Tron Legacy, to go back to the kind of the place and time of it all, I you know, I remember watching Tron Legacy at a time where I didn't quite feel like an adult and I didn't quite feel like I knew what my perception of legacy was going to be or what legacy I was going to leave. And you know, I have friends now that have kids.

You know, some of my friends, close friends have two kids. You know, my roommate from college has two kids now, two boys, a baby boy and like a boy who's like a year year and a half old. And that's you know, that's the beginning of legacy. I mean, that's the beginning of his legacy. And you know, my legacy in a lot of ways, like I struggle with what my legacy will be if I don't have children, And you know that's you know, when you look at the character of Jeff Bridges and Tron Legacy, he created clue you know, in spite of the fact that he already had a son with Sam.

He has a son in Sam Flynn, and he creates Clue anyways in the search of perfection because he wants to make a perfect world, even though I mean again he has a son, which he realizes in this movie, like, you know, it's all about, you know, the people you surround yourself with, not striving for perfection. It's all about caring for the people that are in your life, not ignoring them in search of, you know, the perfect world. And you know, he misses out on a relationship with Sam Flynn in search of the perfect world, in search of the world. With Clue, he gets trapped in the grid for twenty years and then you know, Sam comes in to save him, and then he meets essentially the the the child that his dad created or you know, kind of raised in his stead, which is Quorra.

And Cora is a you know, an isomorphic so you know, she is becoming sentient in isomorphic algorithm. So she's learning on her own and becoming aware and self aware and is getting emotions. And you know, we see that in tron Ares with Jared Letto. He's it's a little bit. It's a little bit more on the nose.

In tron Aries, it's a little bit more kind of blunt and less subtle. I mean, in Toronto Legacy, we don't see it. We're kind of told about it. In tront Areas, it just kind of we see it all in kind of these weird he's in the footage, Jared leto is or he's in the server looking at the information and see kind of the makeup of the the Eve Kim character, the Grete Lee character, who actually, you know, I had not seen her in anything, and I liked her a fair amount. She's she's very good.

She's a good opposite Jared Letto, which is you know, again he kind of you know, he he necessitates someone staying out of his way because he's such a big presence in his own mind, at least that's the way he wants to perceive himself. And so the way he's going to book himself, as it were, is as kind of the star of the show. And I would say tron Aries very much so the star of the show. And again for good and for bad, and you know, I actually think the good barely outweighs the bad, and this barely being the keyword. I again, I actually vibe with Jared Leto and tront arias, which I'm surprised by because I have not vibed with Jared Letto in anything I've ever seen him in.

In a lot of ways, Jared Leedo is an actor I would avoid if not for the It's morbid time of it all, or if not for the tron I p of it all. And you know, Jared Leto's legacy. It is tron Airies at this point, which I find to be rather ironic given the title of tron Legacy, you know, being you know again, a movie about what legacy do we leave? And how do we how do we protect our legacy? You know, Jeff Bridges sacrifices himself in tron Legacy to save his son and Quorra, and you know again, does he die?

We don't know. In tront Aries, Jeff Bridges is back because of nostalgia. I don't Jeff Bridges is back in tront Aries because they want to have Jared Leto and Jeff Bridges share a scene together, which is fine, but it doesn't really serve a purpose, and it honestly opens more questions than it answers. So, you know, because at the end of Tron Legacy, Jeff Bridges makes a sacrifice to deal with Clue by reabsorbing him, by accepting him and you know, bringing him back into the fold, as it were. And I actually think it's rather poignant ending to have the Creator kind of absorb the creation and become one with the creation, to accept the creation as you know, as not maybe one in one and the same, but you know, as an extension of him.

And I like that about the movie. I like that that's where it ends up going. But it is for me disappointing that they felt the need to go back to the well of Jeff Bridges and Tron Ares because he's just it feels like such a digression in the movie. But you know, the scene leading up to it's pretty great because we get to see some you know, Jared Leto in nineteen eighties Tron, and we get to see nineteen eighties Tron faithfully remade through the magic of CGI, which I actually found that part of the movie to be rather charming. It's just I don't need to see Jeff Bridges because it doesn't really do anything.

It doesn't really go anywhere the inclusion of Jeff. I would rather have had Garrett Headlund in this movie than Jeff Bridges because the question left at the end of Tron Legacy is much more interesting than where this movie goes with the remaining parts of Tron Legacy, which is the j Bridges of it all. Like at the end of Tron Legacy, the question of how does Kevin Flynn's legacy now become? What is it? You know, what does it become in the real world is such an interesting question because you have his son and essentially his daughter and you know, or you know, his surrogate daughter out in the real world, and we don't know what that's going to mean.

We don't know if they're going to be together because again, like they're not like biologically related, and what would that mean if there's a could could there a human program hybrid exist? And what are the ramifications of that? Which is kind of the Blade Runner sequel, and you know, none of those directions are gone and it's this is you know, gone in a much more kind of obvious direction with tront Aris, and you know, tront Ari should have had the tagline of fight your programming because it ends up being about a program becoming sentient, and we've already seen that in Tron Legacy. We just didn't see the journey because at that point, like even in twenty ten, like we don't need to see the journey of this.

This journey has been on better in Terminator too, in terms of just kind of getting to the point if you're gonna do this kind of thing. But also, like you know, with something like Westworld, you know, I would contend that that's a better version of what this movie is doing in terms of asking the question of, like what happens when a program becomes sentient and aware of its programming as it were, you know, I just I think Tron Areas is just asking questions that aren't particularly interesting in the world of Tron, not because they're not interesting, but because the questions have already been answered and they're just retreading them. At this point. It's not interesting to retread old ground when there's so much new ground to tread and there's so many new ideas you could go with.

Because again, like the programs in the real world is essentially where this movie ends, which is essentially where the last movie ended. So this movie honestly just feels like a complete retcon of the last. This feels like, you know, a sequel to Tron, not a sequel to Tron Legacy, like Tron Legacy existed outside of this movie. Because the only thing that this movie kind of addresses in terms of Tron Legacy is He's missing. He being Kevin Flynn.

You know, Sam Flynn has mentioned in tron Aries, but we don't see him. We don't see him or Coorra, which is such a missed opportunity. And again, judging by the immense financial loss that this movie is kind of absorbing, we're probably not gonna see any more Tron anything. You know, the Tron TV show, the cartoon that was kind of so well regarded that came out in between Tron Legacy and Tron Aris, a cartoon that you know, so many people have told me about. You know, Uprising is the best Tron thing, is what I've been told.

You know, I think Tron Legacy is still very good. I actually think Tron Legacy works better now because of Tron Aries, because of all these Legacy sequels that have come out that aren't as good or as interesting as Tron Legacy. I think Tron Legacy stands above those those other Legacy sequels, and Tron Legacy, I think visually is still interesting. I think tron Aries just it feels very much like a Tron movie made in the post MCU world, where it's all kind of CGI and very slick and very well crafted and well maintained. Like Tron Legacy, a lot of those sets were real.

They were real sets that were crafted by real people, and they looked really good. This movie is all CGI and it just kind of feels hollow, and it feels kind of like a you know, hollow retelling of a much more interesting story, which this movie kind of is. This is essentially just Tron Legacy reversed, you know, Tron Legacy, you know, reverse Uno edition, like you know, literally, you know, instead of you know, Garrett Headland going to the grid, we have Jared Leto coming to the real world. You know, instead of Quorra becoming a real girl, we have Tron Aris becoming a real girl. So, you know, the Garrett Headland and Cora characters from Tron Legacy are just turned in to one with Aries in this movie.

You know, it's it's such a missed opportunity. And I think that you know, the people that weren't interested in Tron the first time definitely aren't interested this time. And I also think that maybe you've hit the point of people who would be interested in Tron not being interested anymore, because, you know, fifteen years in terms of pop culture relevancy is a long time, and I'm not sure how many fifteen year olds would be going to see tron Aries. And the problem is, this movie does have things going for it that should make it mainstream interesting. It does have dared Letto, who has mainstream appeal.

It does have the inclusion of Jeff Bridges, who you know, still moves the needle for some people. But I think the thing that this movie has that you know, is probably the most mainstream thing of all, is the Nine Inch Nails soundtrack, which, you know, I think a lot of people with Tron Legacy kind of pooh pooh the movie and go. But it does a good soundtrack, So it's a crappy movie with a good soundtrack. It's like, okay, you know what, Tron Legacy is actually a good movie with a great soundtrack. Tront Aries is an okay movie with an amazing soundtrack.

I think in a lot of ways, Nine Inch Nails works really well for the violent nature of tron Aris, because Toronto Areas is a much more violent movie. At one point, you have Evan Peters just asking for the Grete Lee character to be killed in the grid so that her body can't be found in the real world, which is fucking nuts. Again in a Disney movie, that's pretty sadistic. And I like the violent red nature of the movie and how it's reflected in the Nine Inch Nail soundtrack. I just don't think that the movie reaches the heights that the soundtrack hits, and that's you know, it's a shame because the soundtrack is really good.

I mean as alive as you need me to be. The single is really good. All of the you know, non dialogue music is really good. Like it's again like tron Legacy with the the daft punk soundtrack, which I mean daft Punk even shows up in the end of line Club, which I think, undoubtedly for me, is probably the best part of tron Legacy. With Michael Sheen, who is just playing a character from another movie.

Literally, you know, he brings the hamminess of the Marravngian from the Matrix with the kind of the pomp of in a lot of ways. Michael, the character Michael Sheen plays in Twilight. I mean it's just he's hamming it up, like really like hamming it up, like in the merrivngiin and the Matrix isn't even hamming it up that much. Like he's hamming it up, and like he's like David Bowie adjacent, like he's unhidden. And you know, he's also the Lando Calrisian of the movie, where you know, he baits our characters in by thinking, you know, all, I'm the I'm the underground leader of the resistance, but it turns out I'm actually selling you out because I'm playing both sides.

It's like, okay, like that's interesting. But then he just dies, and it's again, feels like I missed opportunity that we get such an interesting character for like thirty seconds in the movie, is what it feels like. But you know, probably too much of a good thing would probably be too much, and his character, if they did too much of it would be a lot because he is overwritten. But an overwritten character in a movie like Tron Legacy that feels kind of like a vibe movie and not necessarily just like the aggressive film that Aries is. Like, you know, when you have a character like that introduced in the movie, it does kind of stand out, but you know, sometimes in a bad way.

I don't think Michael Sheen stands out in a bad way. I think he's he's a fun character. That being said, tron Aris does have some you know again, Jullian Anderson is overacting as Killian Murphy's sister, you know, David Warner's daughter. Yeah, she's she's hamming it up. I like where she's kind of bringing things kind of in and what her kind of feelings are.

Jodie Turner Smith also very good. Her kind of energy is very aggressive. I will say like tron Aries is a aggressive movie and and you know, again in a way that you know, some people may not vibe with. But I I really like the kind of the sensibility of tron Aries in terms of what it's going for. I just don't think it executes it very well.

I think tron Ares executes on its ideas of kind of the digital grid man and you know, we're we're trying to change the world. You know, we're it's the Uprising, and you know, we're fighting back against the evil Empire, and you know, it feels very Star Wars. You know, I mean again to go back to the Lando Kelisian of it all. But you know, I feel like tron Legacy just probably came out a couple of years too early in a lot of ways. You know, it does a better job of being the Force Awakens than The Force Awakens ever could have because tron Legacy is more irreverent with the source material than Tron Aries is.

Like tron Aris just kind of goes back to tron Legacy and uses it as the source material and just retells a lot of in a lot of ways, the Quorra story from Tron Legacy, like tron Aris isn't really doing a lot of new things. And again it is kind of just doing the Terminator story as well, Terminator two, Terminator one, and Terminator two rolled into one. Tron Legacy just you know, it's more Prometheus, less Alien Covenant, and tron Areas is a little bit more Covenant, a little less Prometheus, like tron Legacy just is asking more interesting questions, and it's posing more interesting questions, and it's posing a more interesting direction to take the franchise. I'd also like to point out if you had a d d resin gun or a d you know, a laser, a particle laser, and you could just zap people into the grid, why wouldn't you just use that to as technology to just zap people away into the digital grid and then just kill them in there, and then you'd never have to worry like or use it for just like trash removal and be the world's biggest trash removal company because you just d res garbage.

Like again, it's you know, the military application is great, but the military application is not the easiest way to make money. And if that's what Evan Peters is trying to do is make money, there's easier ways to do it, especially if you have essentially, you know, a digital black hole like Homer finds in that Treehouse of Horrors episode. I mean, it's it seems like an awful waste of such a useful tool to just be like, well, I can make a digital tank that I can then have it go room room and blow shit up, like or you could just zap your enemies into the grid and then have them murdered and they would never even know what happened. No one would know what happened they would disappear without a trace, which is what happened to Jeff Bridges in the second movie.

So it's like the ideas right there, and they just kind of roof miss it. They're not interested in telling that story. And that's the Jared Letto of it all. And that, for me, is the thing about tron Areas that I don't like, which is that Jared Leto's influence is at a cellular level with the movie, and he kind of makes it all about him, and he ignores the interesting questions that the last movie poses because he wants to do the Pinocchio story in twenty twenty five. Like brother, I get it, no, no, But I think that this is also to speak of legacy and to speak of marking the end of an era, because again, you know, I saw tron Legacy before I was married, and I saw tron aries not only after I was married, but after all three of my dogs passed away, because most recently two weeks ago, my first dog that I ever got on my own passed away as the last of the three dogs that I had with my ex wife, and a very traumatic, kind of heart heartbreaking way, and you know it obviously it affected me immensely because as someone who has no compunction to be a parent, you know, at least of a human child, your children, if you are a you know, a parent of animals are your animals, and so to lose them is very traumatic as it is, but you know, to go suddenly is also not great either, and it was rather sudden, and it was rather traumatic.

And you know, then I went and watched Tron Aries and I was like, wow, the last time I saw a Tron movie on the big screen was when I was a single guy in my early twenties, just recovering from the most traumatic thing that had happened to me then, which I mean need pales and combarisson to the things that have happened now, especially just in the last year. But it feels like again, like the end of an era, because you know, Jared Leto will not be the lead of a franchise anytime soon, if ever again. I think his commercial viability is over, and I think that, you know, he should probably stick to smaller projects because I don't know if he has the drawing power anymore that he used to, and I wonder if he ever did.

And I don't want to poo pooh his popularity, because I know he is popular, and I don't think he's a bad actor. I just think he's a little bit like Nick Cage. The flavor of ice cream that he is is not a flavor of ice cream for everyone, and that is okay. You know, he's not my flavor of ice cream, per se. I try that ice cream every now and then, but I am reminded that it's not necessarily something I would or go out of my way to order.

But Tron Legacy is a flavor of ice cream that I would order over and over and over again. And I honestly, they will probably have Tron Legacy in rotation again with the things that I watch, because I it's kind of it's a it's a comfort movie for me in a lot of ways, like it reminds me of a time and a place that is very much different than now. But I but I can remember specifically the time and place of Tron Legacy and the world that that movie came out in and the kind of hope of that world. But at the same time, you know, you know, if you watch the beginning of Tron Legacy, there's a very cynical scene with Killey and Murphy, where you know, they're like, well, you know, what's the new operating system that makes it different.

It's like, well, nothing other than it's got the number twelve attached to it. And it's like, these are the bastards that Tron Legacy warned us about, and in tront Ares, the bastards have won, and now we get to see the bastards fighting one another because you know, yes, Greta Lee is this is a altruistic CEO, but she's also still the CEO of Encom, which is a more altruistic company than Dillinger Systems, but it's still a massive company which is undoubtedly doing harm. So you know, it's hard to feel like this is anything other than Tron Game of Thrones, you know, and in a lot of ways, you know, they had to write the Greteli character as the hero, and if this were a story not being told by Disney, there might be a little bit more nuance to the character and a little bit more acknowledgment of the fact that these are just two massive corporations fighting for the ability to make money.

They're both looking to make money. They're just looking to make money in two different ways. The permanence code that would allow the programs from the digital world to stay in the real world for longer, if not permanently. It is an idea that will be exploited by either side for profit. Either way, one is just a little bit more unpalatable than the other, but they're still trying to profit off of it.

So it's you know, it's very much a movie of the times, you know, tron Legacy is kind of a movie of hope and uprising, of hope of the future, of a future that's hopeful that you you know, we can we can shirk the CGI Jeff Bridges of the world and live in a world where isometric you know, are isomorphic programs, you know, the the the the ones amongst us that are different can live in peace and harmony with those amongst us that aren't different or don't feel different. You know that that world is so novel now and feels a little naive now in retrospect, but you know, that's what the world of tron Legacy. Maybe that's why I like tron Legacy so much, is it's a world I'd like to live in. I'd like to go back to twenty ten, you know, and try again, like Tron Legacy, does you know show us that you know, even if you do disappear for twenty years, you do get a second chance.

But you know, tron areas is that is the second chance that the Tron franchise gets. But it's a second chance not being done. I don't know, it's just not being done with the best intentions in mind. It's being done, you know, for less than I wouldn't say altruistic reasons, because anytime you make a movie, it's something unfraultristic reasons, but it's something done for the right reasons. If this is Tron Ascension, maybe we'd be having a different conversation.

But this is tron Aris. This is Jared Leto's Tron. This is the movie Jared Leto wanted to make, And that, for me will always be the problem with tron Aris. That will always be the issue with a movie like Tron Aries is that it's not really a Tron movie in the way that the last movie was, in the way that the last movie was a movie made by people that loved Tron in the right way. I think Jared Letto loved the ideas of Tron, but I don't think Jared Leto cares about the world of Tron the way that you know, Joseph Kazinski of directing Tron Legacy does.

And you know that movie made four hundred million dollars in retrospect. That was a much bigger success than tron Aris. Tron Aris is a flop, and in a lot of ways, it's a massive flop, and it's a flop that's going to end the Tron franchise, which you know will be held against Jared Leto by Tron fans for and rightfully. So if you make it a point to make this movie and you want to make it about yourself and it's not a success, you should bear that burden. I mean, the Rock bared the burden of destroying the DC universe.

You know, I just don't think there's a you know, James gunn to save Tron, because I don't think Tron is an ip that people care about the same way that they care about d C. Because Tron is its own thing, to quote David S. Pumpkins, it's very much its own thing, which I think makes it a worthwhile franchise to worry about, and it's a worthwhile franchise to make sure exists because it is a homegrown franchise, because it is a franchise that comes from Stephen Lisberger and Bonnie mcbird. Two people made this and it's just them, like and you know, the original movie, they waited twenty five years, you know, the original movie. They waited a long time to make the sequel to that movie.

And I don't think there will be anything after tron Aries, and if there will be, it will be a long time, and they may ignore this movie. I hope that we get more after this, but this does feel like the end of an era. And you know, it's weird to me that the end of an era for me in terms of you know, like kind of the last thing from my previous life in terms of relationships big ones was the one with my own dog, Nibbler, who passed away, came the same week that tron Ares came out, which again, tron Legacy is a movie that I kind of look to and remember is kind of a point in time that was right before kind of my life changed so dramatically, and my life has changed dramatically now in the last you know, year, year and a half.

So it's just you know, Tron and tron Legacy, you know, and tron aris just feel like three movies of a very specific time, of a very specific place that you know, especially with tron Legacy, like I'd like to live in that world again, just to be you know, given the opportunity to do better, because you know, the world of tron Legacy, at the end, it's all about doing better. It's all about being hopeful. And you know, there's a program in the real world and what does that mean for humanity? And we can you know, against our better you know, vices do better because now we have you know, the perfect walking amongst us. Nope, Nope, tron Arias is about the violent takeover of a corporation by another corporation.

How twenty twenty five? Huh? And how I mean not how you know, just how how kind of sad really that that's the real world is so reflective? You know, the bastards won, you know, the Dillingers in the world won. And you know, I actually think it's a little disappointing that tron Areas leaves us with such a good cliffhanger because Evan Peters dressed up as David Warner's Sark from tron is a great visual, even if it does seem a little out of place with the rest of the visuals of the movie.

But I really really like the visual of Evan Peters dressed up as Sark and I don't think we're gonna have We're never gonna get anything more of that, which is a shame I feel, because I feel like that's an interesting direction to go. It's it's kind of amusing to me that the gentleman who directed tron Aries Yo Kim Running was also the director of another movie who has a kind of hanging thread that would have been a lot more interesting than the movie we get, that movie being Pirates of the Caribbean, dead Men Tell No Tales, another Disney movie which ends with Davy Jones coming back and Will Turner and and this whole kind of it's very, very much the finale to the original three movies that you never knew you wanted but got, And then they have this kind of cliffhanger at the end of the movie that hints at something a lot more interesting happening, but we're not getting that because Pirates of the Caribbean is being rebooted, so and we'll never get it now, and you know, Yo Kim Running directed that movie.

Tron Aries will probably never get to see Evan Peters, you know, making good as Sark, but I think it's very interesting to have him going into the digital world at the end of the movie and becoming you know, Sark, you know, two point zero. So I'm I'm disappointed what tron Aris is because of the Jared Leto of it all, but I actually like Jared Letto in it a fair bit more than I ever have in anything else. It's just because of Jared Letto, we're probably not getting any more tron And what a shame, because there are some interesting ideas in tront Aris, but I think the interesting ideas of tron Legacy were more interesting. So go with those, follow those through lines. Make tron ascension.

Don't cowtow to us, you know, a big name celebrity just because they're a big name celebrity and you know, that's tron Ares, which you know, it's fine, but not when it fails and bombs as hard as this movie has. Because this movie bombed pretty hard compared even to the perception of tron Legacy, which didn't bomb. So you know, again, tron Ari's bombed. Tron Legacy did not bomb. Tron Legacy is a better movie than anyone remembers.

So go rewatch Tron Legacy because Tron Legacy kind of like Prometheus deserves a rewatch because it's it's more interesting questions and it's doing more interesting things. And you know, tron Aris and Alien Covenant have a lot in common in terms of robots trying to and wanting to feel like real people and you know, feeling like human beings and feeling like, well, you know, what does it mean for a robot to have emotions or not have emotions? Because you know, in Alien Covenant, it's all about Walter and David, and David has the emotions limited in Walter, you know, you know, and then he you know, Walter had emotions limited and David didn't. So you know, tron Aries is about a program becoming a real boy.

It's like all these ideas have been exploited before by other people in much more interesting ways, and that, for me feels like the kind of the worst part of tron is like it just doesn't feel like Tron in a lot of ways. It feels like something else, and something else not as well written as those other things even are. Tron Legacy had some some great cross promotional stuff. It had a pinball machine, It had a Didas merchandise that glowed in the dark. It had a the disc, the data disc.

You could buy the Blu ray of the movie and it came with the data disc that the Blu rays were, and it was like a whole thing, like the whole The original sequel was so overbranded in a way that was like, you know, now we get all the tron merchandising like it was. It was. It was a thing. Tron Legacy was a thing tron Aris is not, and I think that they were expecting it. It was going to be, and it's just a shame that it wasn't, because you know, I think a lot of people that were involved with tront Aris tried, you know, Trent Resnor and Atticus Ross amongst them.

You know Yokim running as well, but you know, the Jared Letto of it all just gets in the way. And boy, what a shame, because yeah, for once, I'm actually not complaining about Jared Leto's acting. I'm actually just complaining about Jared Leto the person, which is a shame because if you want to take that mantle on yourself. You have to be responsible for these successes and the failures. And this is a pretty big financial failure.

And Jared Leto's, you know, not going to be the lead in a big Hollywood blockbuster for a while if ever again, no matter how good he looks at fifty three. So I'm I'm hesitant for anything else Tron to come out because I don't think it will. But if Jared Leto's involved, Dear God help us all. So, uh, you know, end of an Era, Tron, Tron Legacy, Tron Aris, Tron, putting an aries, putting an end to the Tron era. So we can just rewatch Tron Legacy and listen to the soundtrack over and over again and then and the soundtrack for Tron Areas as well.

It's pretty good. So it's very good, and especially with red headlights in the world being very common, if you put it on while driving, it makes you feel like you're in the world of Tron for those of you who love to listen to music while driving as opposed to those of you that are listening to this while driving instead. So go check it out because it's as good as anything is. Atticus Ross and Trent Reznor have done together, and they've done a lot together, including well the Social Network, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I mean, they've worked with a lot of people.

This is you know, this is a really good soundtrack. It's yeah, kind of unfortunate that the soundtrack is better than the movie, because I don't think the soundtrack for Legacy is any better than the movie is. I think they're both very very good. And also to mention one other thing, to speak to the Star Wars of it all, the digitally de aged and digital Jeff Bridges look very good now, more so than I would have remembered them looking ever, And they look better than a lot of the digitally d aged you know, Grand Mov Tarkin, you know, Princess Leia, all those kind of you know, the Mark Hamill, I mean so many. I mean Star Wars just did over and over and over again.

So those are the ones I need to go back to in terms of points of reference. But digitally daged clue slash Jeff Bridges pretty good. And also Jeff Bridges's voice doesn't sound like Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones as clue like. He actually sounds like a younger version of himself. He kind of they either pitched it correctly or he was doing the like a pitched up version of his voice, but it doesn't sound like old man Jeff Bridges, which in tron Areas it's very much old man Jeff Bridges kind of garb his lines, so you know, and a little less of the dude and man of it all from Tron Legacy, which I always laugh.

Jeff Bridges is doing the dude abides you know, dude and man. I know Kevin Flynn did it in Tron, but it's just it's funny because again, Tron comes out win, Jeff Bridges is not a household name. Tron Legacy comes out when Jeff Bridges being involved in the project is enough of a needle mover in the mainstream pop culture to get eyes on it, you know, And that's why he's in drawn areas. Yeah, I mean, you know, go see tron Arias if you want to try to get some support under the wings of Tron, under the digital wings of Tron. But I think that this might be the end of an era for Tron unfortunately.

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