WUH: The Monkey, et al

Wake Up Heavy is a weirding Way media podcast. Welcome to Wake Up Heavy, the world's greatest horror movie podcast. On this episode, my weird dad and I will be talking about. Hello and welcome to Wake Up Heavy. This is Mark Begley, your host, and I've got a well, not so quick little episode with my daughter Cleo coming up.

I just wanted to start off with a little bit of an update on my progress. This should be quick because not much has changed since last time. Things are getting better. I am just about walking normally. Still have a little bit of a limp, and it depends on if I've been sitting for a long time or just getting out of my car.

My gait is just about normal and that is pretty much Sands physical therapy. I do have a referral, but I am waiting for my wonderful health Insurance Blue Shield to process my frickin' hospital claim, my two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars hospital claim which they have still yet to process. And of course they tried to pass it off on me or someone else by asking if it was work related or because of a car crash, et cetera. But I am just about at my out of pocket maximum for the year, and I'd like to be able to do some other things that my doctors would like me to do, So get that claim processed, especially in this day and age, if you know what I'm saying. I did see my surgeon earlier this month, and things are going well as far as healing internally.

There's some bone growth, new bone growth around where my femur broke and where the pins and rod is, and that's to be expected or that's what's wanted, so that's a good thing. Didn't really have any scars to heal. They were pretty much healed up by the time I got home. And like I said, just the limp the gate is progressing every day. I can see that within a couple of weeks here it probably won't even have a limp anymore.

Don't care if I do, honestly, but you know, I know it can sort of mess you up otherwise. So that's it for me as far as progress. No walking aids, nothing else going on. If I get to PT for strength, great, If I don't whatever. A little correction from I believe last episode may have been the one before that I don't really recall, but I had mentioned that I released five episodes last year through wake Up, and that is not true.

I released four. One of the episodes was the introductory episode of the Chasing Chevy Chase podcast, So I'm not really going to count that. We're at three so far this year, and it's only April, so kings, all right. So this is Cleo and I talking about a handful of movies that we watched over spring break, a couple more in depth than the others. And the only thing we left off and this is my fault, and I did this with the film Cuckoo when we talked last time, because I forgot to add it to my watch list.

I've logged the films on letterboxed and then when I log films, I create an annual watch list, and if I forget to put it on the watch list, I usually don't catch that. So we didn't talk about Stop Making Sense, the Tucking Heads concert movie by Jonathan Demi. We watched that, I believe, on Cleo's request early in the month, and I'm not going to say anything about it because maybe we'll get to it the next time we talk, or I'll try to remember to get to it the next time we talk. But just to say that every time I watch that damn thing, it just makes me want to listen to nothing but talking heads. It's just such a fun, energetic, musically wonderful show.

Years ago, decades ago, it opened me up to the rest of their catalog. I had been a big fan of speaking in tongues when it came out, and then I realized, oh, they have other really good songs. So that's a story for another time. But yeah, just love, love, love love that movie. All right, So, without further ado, here is Cleo and me talking about some movies and enjoy after this quick message like this start up.

Come on good time. Roll, Come on baby, mater your soul, come on time, roll, roll, come on baby. Yes, this is this, this is something. I just get me all right, I'm back with my most favoritist co host ever to be on the show, Cleo, my daughter. Yay, I'm back and we are on spring break right now, are people.

It's the Saturday of spring break, so we're technically at the end here, although you do get Monday off, yeah from the high school. We're one college course in the morning. You don't need to go to on Monday. Fun fun, but we did watch a handful of movies this past week, so why not do an episode on them? Yeah?

Why not? Yeah? Why not? We haven't really done or watched much since the last time we talked, although I think because I did the episode with Chris on Midsummer we didn't talk about that on our last outing together, correct. Midsummer.

Yeah, I mean we've talked about it before, but we didn't actually talk about it on the last episode we did. No, don't believe. As we watched the director's cut, the extended cut of that. Yeah, both of us for the first time. AnyWho, some added scenes.

It wasn't that. Yeah, not a whole lot. Yeah, added to it. Chris and I got into all that on that episode. You can listen to that over on the Culture cast on Weirdingway Media dot com.

Plug plug plug. So we watched one, two, three, four, five movies this past week, two on the same day, two very different movies on the same day, uh, one just us, and then that evening we watched a fun one with your mom mm hmmm, and then we watched three other movies just you and I. The Did we watch those all on one day? No? No?

Uh oh no, No. Strange Darling. I spoiled one already, Dad, So on what day was that that. We watched to look at our letterbox? Yeah, and all of these, no know, these first three are all fairly new films.

And then we watched old classic and then a more recent classic. But starting off we watched the Steven Soderberg film Presence. Yes, I picked it right, I don't. Yeah, we were kind of scrolling through stuff and that one came up. I had watched the Red Letter Media video on it and they seemed to really like it.

I had heard about it when it came out, and then it sort of disappeared. I think it just started streaming somewhere, but I could be rocks. Maybe I don't look it up. People find out where it's streaming to yourself. Kind of a horror movie, not really, I mean it's about a quote unquote ghost ghosts.

Yeah, or like almost like Poltergeist creatures. Yeah, Like it's not really. It's definitely a presence. It's a presence, that's for sure, hence the title, and you are experiencing the film from the presence's perspective. Is fun.

Yeah, It's one of those things that can be off putting in me. That attempt to do single shot scenes can get tiresome sometimes, So basically the only cuts in the movie are when you change scenes. There are no cuts within a particular. Scene, and it's from funky angles because it's writing at people. It's a first person, it's.

Subject person perspective at a kind of high, higher, taller. Yeah, that can be a little odd. There's a German movie or something called Angst that does something similar to that. To me, that one was off putting. This one.

I got used to it pretty quickly and it didn't really bother me. But it can be kind of jarring to have that throughout a movie and not just you know, a particular choice for one shot or something. It's the whole movie. Yep. And there are some scenes with like movement where I was like, little, oh, it's a lot.

Yeah, it's basically like steady cam throughout the film. As a horror movie, though, how would you rate. It as a horror movie out of like what five or ten? Well, I mean, would you consider it that or not? Really?

It's like spooky, but it's not entirely a horror movie. Because there are scenes like in Poultergeist which it references specific the dog is parking, specifically with the end credits being in the Poltergeist font. Oh yeah, but there are items moving being moved by the presence in the film, and it's kind of jinky and almost seems like it's like stuff on a stream or whatever. But I think that's fun. Though it added a little like uniqueness to it.

I liked it. It's more a real life horror story. The idea that the daughter this family moves into a house discovered that there is something there with them. The daughter of this family just lost one of her friends to an apparent drug overdose, and so that's sort of the main focus is how she's dealing with that, this presence in the house, how it's connected to that. Yeah, and the family dynamics and all that interesting, not particularly scary, but it was real life horrors.

Yeah, I guess with a little supernatural. Yeah, there's a supernatural bent. They have a medium come so there's almost a quote unquote seance scene, but not really. And yeah, the guys on Red Letter Media said that the lad we won't spoil the last shot here, but they said that the last scene or the last shot gave them goosebumps. And I just couldn't figure it out what they were talking about.

Yeah, involves this like antique mirror in the house. And I was like, oh, I, you know, to each their own as far as scares go. But I don't know, or maybe it was her reaction Lucy Lewis in the movie and maybe it was her reaction to that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

It was enjoyable, it was. It was a pretty good movie, like it was. I liked it, but it wasn't like scary. I think the only thing you've seen by him is that film Kimmy we watch. Oh yeah The Alexa, Yeah, with Zoey Habits.

Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah. He is interesting. He does big budget movies. He does these really super low budget things shot on iPhones whatever.

Yeah, and made it on the scene with a movie years ago with James Spader and Andy McDowell. Margaret Qualley's mom put all of them, well not James Spader maybe, but put all of them on the map. It's called Sex, Salize and Videotape and it took over Sundance that year or whatever. It was one of the really big indie films that sort of started that whole craze in the early nineties and stuff. Mm hmm.

Yeah, so he's an interesting dude. M Yeah, it was an interesting movie. It was different from what like what we were reading. It's not what I expected, because I know you told me. You were like, it's from the perspective of the thing in the house, and I was like, okay, and then it was much more like what you were saying, like real life horrors and just stuff like that.

It's not what I expected, but it was. It was good. It wasn't bad. Kind of low key, yeah, personal family stuff. Very different.

And I'm saying that because it was very different from the movie we watched that night, which we'll get to later because I think we want to focus kind of on that and one of the other films that we watched, very different than our boy, Osgood Perkins's latest film. He's had two films in less than a year. We talked about Long Legs a while ago, and all of his other movies, you and I did at least, so we all watched together as a family. The Monkey, based on Stephen King short story from Skeleton Crew, a completely different tone vibe. Definitely a horror movie.

Yeah, totally gory. So we'll get back to that though. Yeah, and maybe we'll even get back to the next one too, because a couple of days later, I was like, I'm watching this because I've been wanting to see it for a while, a movie called Strange Darling with Kyle Gallner and Willa Fitzgerald. And I think I mentioned to you the opening scene I had caught, like I think two years years ago, which makes sense because they've. Got the Didn't it come out in twenty twenty three?

No, it did not come out in twenty twenty three. It came out last year, but the date on the film is twenty twenty three, and so I don't know what held it up. Yeah, I saw that clip a good year and a half ago and thought, oh, he's in another horror movie, because he was starting to be in a string of I mean, he's always done horror, but he was in that the latest Scream or whatever, and he was in Smile and a bunch of other stuff all at the same time. Yeah, and so I was like, oh, well, that dude's in another one. And then I don't even know if we had seen Followed the House of Usher yet, which Willa Fitzgerald was in and I thought she was one of the best parts of that.

Yeah, she's good. And Ed Bagley Junior, my boy, was in that or I had found out that he was in it, so I was looking forward to it. And then it came out and did really well, especially critically, and I thought, Okay, I'm watching this when it comes out, and it's been out for a little while, and I wasn't going to wait any longer, and you were home, so you watched it with me. So we'll talk about that and the monkey in a bit. But because of strange Darling, they're opening crawl I told you, Oh, they're riffing on the Texas chainsaw massacre here where they've got an opening crawl and they've got a narrator explaining these horrific crimes that happen in this area and it's a direct nod to Texas chain saw Massacre.

We the next day watched that. Yeah, the events of that day wore to lead to the discovery of one of the most bizarre crimes in the annals of American history, the Texas chainsaw Massacre, which I had never seen. And you were like, I didn't watch this until I was like twenty. Years and I've talked about this on my show. That was one that spooked me.

It just seemed like too too, too much, too real too oh yeah, and I know it's quote unquote based on true stuff you ed green or ed guying and things so inspire the story, and it just always seemed like too real and so much as how it was shot and very low budget and grimy, and it's gross. It's gnarly dirty and sweaty and you can almost smell the film, you know, just all the carcasses and everything else. So it just never so much dead stuff this yeah, it is that actually and it so it took me a long time to watch it. But what did you think? It was good?

It was very interesting gross, It was gross a lot of them. Yeah, it was just that's like my main thing. It was like, it was you a lot of the dead bodies, dead animal stuff. They're fun creations. Specifically that armchair mm hmm.

I didn't enjoy that or the light with the faces on it. That hurts my heart because that's literally like an ed geen thing too. Oh yeah, here's my lamp that's made of flesh. Ah yep, which he actually did. Yes, it's still pretty.

It's gross intense again, not particularly scary in a jump scare kind of way. Yeah, just more shocking and gross and disturbing. And that family is disturbing, and you know that there are families out there, like yeah, it digs into under your skin. Yeah. Yeah.

The fact that like you can definitely see this actually happening, and that there are people like that. As we've mentioned ed Dean with his fun behavior. It's gross, yeah, but I liked it. It was a fun watch. The two thousand and whatever, two thousand and three remake is not that bad.

Actually, I kind of liked it. There's been sequels and reboots, and there's the current thing that they had on Netflix, which I watched. I don't know if I did an episode with Chris on that I feel like we were going to and it maybe didn't happen. No, maybe we did. I don't know.

It's odd that Blonde Gal, the Final Girl, she comes back for this reboot or not reboot, but legacy sequel. Yes, it kind of tried to do the Halloween thing with her and Jamie Lee Curtis, and it's odd. It's really weird. Mark is referring to the character of Sally Hardesty, not Marilyn Burns, the actor who played her. I don't like the sequel the original sequels made by Toby Hooper.

I don't care for it because it's very tongue in cheek and the kind of humor I don't really like in my horror movies, which is funny because we're going to talk about a horror comedy in a little bit here. The first film is funny as well, but it's a different kind of humor. Well, yeah, like Franklin folliged out the hair. Well that's what I was gonna ask you. Oh, if you were pro or anti Franklin, because a lot of horror fans hate Franklin.

Your invalid brother Franklin. I'm like neutral Franklin. He didn't really bother me that much. But I also don't like adore him. I'm pro Franklin.

I think he gets a bad rap, and I understand why he's OK. He's still a little turd, but like it's not that bad. They constantly leave him, Yeah, they stranded, can't move. I never found it all that grading, and I was kind of surprised to find that out decades later on the Internet and stuff that people generally hate Franklin. Yeah, I don't.

He wasn't that bothersome to me, So I'm like, he was just kind of chillin'. Yeah. And they also, like you said, like they leave him places like he has to get into the house by himself at one point in his wheelchair with no one helping him. He has to go like a rant. Basically, he didn't really bother me, but he was funny.

There's some fun stuff. Yeah, he didn't annoy me. I was just like, he wasn't my favorite character of the entire movie. They're not very clearly drawn characters for one thing other than him. Really.

Yeah, Yeah, I don't find him annoying. I understand helping to see that he is obnoxious set points, but I also kind of feel sorry for the guy. Oh yeah, but he wanted to hang out with his sister. He is the fifth wheel. Oh yeah, no pun intended of this group.

He gets left aside so often. It's just kind of makes me sad for him. Yeah, and I can understand being obnoxious due to that reason. Anyway, i'd get your opinion on Franklin. He's pretty chill.

You're fond of me. Lovester and then we watched The Lighthouse another Robert Egger is still seen. It was weird. Yeah, it's very weird though. I saw that in the theater because of the Witch and like in The Witch so much, and I was like, okay, okay, it's a bit much.

It's a bit much more than No Satu as well, so claustrophobic. Oh yes, it's so small. Two people going at each other for a whole movie can get a little grading after a while, but it is very I like how it's shot. I like the square aspect ratio. I like the stark black and white.

Yeah, and I. Like both of them in it, especially William Dafoe. He's a little weirdo. I mean he always is. But like the farting, the farting, you god, damn fat good.

You're like my lobster, don't you. Oh that was such a wish. Oh my gosh, the random like mermaid stuff. The seagulls made me laugh. They were funny also darkly comic, yeah, very much so.

Yeah, and Robert Pattinson is very good at it. And yeah, you know, I got no issue with that guy at all. I think he's it's good kind of like Daniel Radcliffe. A lot of people say, you know, they got these big paychecks for these large eyeps and then they just started doing. Whatever the stuff after that, both of the weird stuff.

Yep. Even I feel like Elijah Wood is also kind of in there. Yeah, yeah, same, get all this cash franchise boys getting these paychecks for Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Twilight and then going and doing a bunch of weird stuff. Yeah good them. Yeah me too, I would do that too.

Yeah. I liked it. I I don't think I like it as much as The Witch or No Spratu, but it was I like Robert Egger's stuff, so I enjoyed it. It was weird and fun, but definitely not my favorite out of the three that I've now watched. I still kind of think that's no Sparratu.

Now that makes sense. I know we talked about this when we talked about nos Fratu, but the Witch is still definitely number one. And yeah, I love the Witch. Before Nospratu, it was in succession which Lighthouse Northmen, et cetera. But yeah, et cetera, et cetera.

You know, wat's that again? Speaking of the Lord, Anya Taylor Joy and yeah, et cetera. Okay, well, so what more about Strange Darlin can we talk about? Because that was I think of this week and the movies that we watched, that and The Monkey were my favorites. Yeah, I think that's also me.

I really liked Strange Darling. I love the way it looked. I love nonlinear stuff, which I think you knew that. Yeah, I love Yeah, I knew. I had heard that.

It was in chapters that are out of order, and you get bits and pieces of the quote unquote twist throughout, and we won't spoil it here, but it's not too hard to figure out what's going on at a certain point, kind of like Companion, it's yeah, yeah, she's a Roebit and that things are going south. I'm grateful that they at least told you what chapter yes on so that I didn't get too confused. I actually really liked that because sometimes yeah, nonlinear, like, okay, I adore Hillhouse, but Hillhouse does not make a great this is this day that it happens, which like, that's kind of the thing in Hillhouse. It's very disorienting. But that's non linear too, But this one tells you this is chapter three.

Chapter three five, I think was the next one. I liked that, and I also like stylistically, I liked that there. Jumped to chapter one. Next chapter one came pretty quick. Yeah, you're still in the dark about what's exactly going on.

And then, like I said, Ed Begley Junior shows up and I just forgot her name. Oh the lady from Insidious. Yeah, oh gosh, durn it, I'm looking. Are we both looking right now? Barbara Hershey, who's in the entity a really creepy poltergeist slashcows story and all kinds of other stuff, But happy to see them.

They play a hippie dippy couple. Yeah. Their breakfast is amazing. Our reactions so that was so funny, just being like, oh, oh, they're still making more. He makes fried eggs in two sticks of butter and fries pancakes in the grease from the sausages that he's been cooking.

They pile on like blueberry pie, filling onto their pancakest. My stomach hurt. It's a bit much. It is a lot, and they're just they're happy, happy, and in love and living out in the wilderness. They have matching braids.

Yeah, chasing off Sasquatch and these people interrupt their lives and us men well for them, and it's pretty sad. Actually, that was a very not to spoil it again, but it was upsetting. It was upsetting the way they shot that. I was, this is not cool at all. It was a pretty like cruel kind of mean thing.

Yeah. Yeah. I also liked the nonlinear storytelling. I thought, okay, gimmicky, but no, it worked in this with the twist that they employ. And I liked both of them, Kyle Gallaner and will I Fitzgure a lot in this.

She's good, She's crazy. She's very good. You're confused for a while about both of them because they're kind of playing roles with each other, role playing, and then it's confusing as an audience members to win what's going on? What is their true character? What character?

Very interesting. I liked it. I really liked it. And like you said, the look of it. And I mentioned to you who shot the film.

The cinematographer is Giovanni Ribisi, which is still I'm not sure what the deal is with that, if that's like his new thing or what I knew. The only way to describe who that was to you should make a friend's reference. I'm like, it's Phoebe's brother and on friends and you're like, oh that little guy. Baby, I know. I was like, are you talking about it?

Then he said that. I was like, oh that guy, hey, it makes sense. I don't know. Yeah, so I don't see the connection there. I don't know if he's done any other cinematography for films or short films or you expect actors to get into directing, but it's like CT cinematography.

I don't know. It's just a weird. But I've really i've really liked it in this movie. So yeah, and as they proudly announced at the beginning, shot completely on thirty. Five milimeter film, I loved it.

You can definitely tell there is a genuine grain. To a genus. Yeah, the grain. And the color palette is all like almost just all primary color. Yeah, it's very primary, a lot of red, lots of red.

From what I understand, that was deliberate, like make everything primary. Yeah, don't use the what are the what are the non primary colors called secondary? You know? Like yeah, oh yeah, tels like fusia and orange. Right, so red, yellow, blue, and it works.

It's very striking to look out. And also there are times where I was like, this is modern. Right. The very beginning scene is her in that old car, but then it also cuts to him and he's in a very like modern truck and I'm like, rights. And then one of the scenes, it's when she leaves the motel and she goes into the I don't know what business or whatever that is, but the girl with the red scrubs is in there.

It's the lobby of the hotel. I believe, Oh okay hotel. It's very like seventies looking, and even the main lady there, they're like receptionist or whatever, very seventies looking. But then the other girl pulls out a cell phone and I'm like, right, what? But I love that because they do that, and it follows too, and I love it.

I think more deliberately and it follows maybe yeah, because you're not really supposed to understand the year, the season or whatever for that. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Stuff is like that where it's like when does this take place? Yeah?

And part of that, I think is where it's taking place, because yeah, backwoods Oregon can be kind of out of time. Yeah, you know in that motel. There are motels like that that are very very stuck in their era time that they were built. Right. Yeah.

I liked it visually very good, and I liked the story was interesting. I enjoyed it. Yeah, twisty twists, it's good. I was surprised by the end. Actually, I again not to spoil it, but I thought they were going to get away.

So did I. They kind of don't not really met their match finally, and with the lady in the. Truck, Yeah, the cool native lady. Ye, she looked familiar. I need to look real stuff.

Yeah, I don't know. I might just be being like. Hmmm, well, I know that the cop, the male cop, he was on breaking bad. I believe. I think the female cop looked familiar to me too, and she's probably on something.

I don't know. I need to go and check. Usually look all that stuff up when we're watching movies, try them not too so much these days, trapped in this like where are they from? Where are they from? Who's that I know that face?

Like when we're watching the Pit or whatever, that's something else we've been watching. Like everybody else that I follow on Twitter, at least everybody fell in love with the pit. Great show, Noah Wiley. It was really good. I enjoyed it.

Fiona Dorif all kinds of great people. Great proceipe not procedural. Yeah, I've seen some medical procedural. Well yeah, sure, that's what I've seen. People call it one day, fifteen hour period and one day in a Pittsburgh hospital.

It was good. I really liked it. Yeah, it was very good. Looking forward to the next season. Yeah, they're already on it, aren't they.

Yeah, they are exciting. Well Saturday night and not just that paid money. Don't try to say Mahon, say go go how time tonight? Okay? Well, my favorite film of this past week was definitely The Monkey, and I wasn't sure.

I wasn't sure because I was excited about it when I first heard about it, which was not long after Long Legs came out. It's like, oh, he's already working on a movie. I know, I think Will. Was it Will? Or was it you that showed me something about it?

And I was like, what already Yeah, already working on a movie based on a Stephen King short story which I knew I had read years ago. The first trailer I saw, I was like, oh, oh, this is gonna be cuckoo bananas, and I was kind to hear for it. Again, admittedly, horror comedy is not my fave. I can count on one hand the ones I like. Tucker and Gale is evil, evil dead too, But again, they lose their steam for me when they play it tongue in cheek and this definitely is tongue firmly in cheek.

Oh yeah. It was so not confident, but like it was just so there with all of the weird stuff that it did, where I was like, yeah. Yeah, it was kind of gleeful about it. Yeah, which I appreciated, very proud of what it was to me. So I said to you at some point, are you and your mom at some point in the movie, this is very different than the short.

Story it's based on, And I asked you, I was like, in a good or a bad way? Well, I mean, it's just completely different because there may be touches of humor in the story, like there are in a lot of his stories. Oh more black comedy, you know, the humor of a situation that's horrible that you kind of can't help but chuckle at, But this is played for absurdity. The story is not the shallow differences are you know, it's not twins in the story that grow up. It's brothers that are considerably different in age.

And the main brother is married and has kids, and they're back at the aunt's house. Like the aunt finally dies, who took care of them? She finally dies. The one brother, the younger brother in the story, goes back to the house with his family to clean it up, discovers the monkey, and then proceeds to have flashbacks to all these horrible events that happen. Yeah, then gets rid of the monkey at the end of story.

So this is quite different than that. And the kids are twins for whatever reason. Yeah, I think it's fun. It starts with them as kids and then we slowly progress to current day. And yeah, can we spoil this one?

Uh? I mean it's kind of brand new. Okay, Oh, what are you thinking of spoiling The deaths? They're so well I don't really consider that spoiling oilery. The first one is so gnarly.

The deaths are insane in this and ridiculous. A couple of people explode in ways that no one would ever explode. You don't explode the pool one. Yeah, the pool scene is ridiculous but hysterical. The very first one, though, is like, oh, what's.

The very first one? The harpoon going through the guy and then oh coming back out and pulling his intestines out. What Adam Scott is in an early scene, he is apparently these twins' dad dad. Yeah, which again is very different from the story. I believe he just kind of disappears quote unquote in the story, something awful has become of him because of this toy monkey, which is gigantic in the movie.

Yeah. I was also going to say, can we talk about the monkey because it's huge and weird. I mean, okay, the simple monkeys that it's based off of all have always been terrifying. Yes, I was talking about when we started it, I was like, oh, the like Toy Story three trauma, because that has the simple monkey in it, terrifying. He's a villain in that.

Yes, it's very evil. It's scary for little children. According to the trivia. That's why it's in Toy Story three because of this short story the monkey, which I don't know how true that is, because those are horrifying, that's true toys, but they're generally like they're small though, yeah, and inches tall. This thing is like two feet tall.

Huge. So and when they wind it, it does that smile, It opens its mouth and smiles or whatever. It's just like, oh, it's so weird. Which I believe the actual toys do. I don't like that.

I don't enjoy that. That's frightening, mouths that open, and of course symbols, which Disney owns now because of the toy story three things. So this one plays a drum instead, yeah, which they used to good effect with the spinning the stick. And the whole point is that in a story or in the movie, when the monkey crashes its symbols or bangs its drum, somebody dies some horrible way, just because because it's an evil toy monkey. There's no monkey lore.

It just kills people. Yeah, And I don't remember if there's monkey lore in the story, because you know, a lot of the short stories they don't get into that stuff. But I can't remember if there is some kind of vague explanation as to how it got this way. But yeah, there's nothing in the movie at. All about that, which is it's fun like that.

Yeah, Adam Scott tries to get rid of it at a pawnshop that goes horribly wrong, takes healthy owner shop, and then presumably Adam Scott disappears or dies after trying to burn it with a flamethrower, and then we go from there through the kid's life. Every time this monkey bangs it's drum, somebody dies. They get the idea, well, maybe I could make somebody die on purpose if I wind it up and have it bang it's drum. And that goes wrong, and yeah, that's what divides them. And when they're grown up, they don't really speak to each other.

Oh, the reason I totally went on a tangent, but the reason I was concerned about it. I was really excited when I first heard about it. Oh yeah trailer, And then before we watched it, I had read all of the reviews, Oh don't do that, more like audience reviews, and they were all two or less stars and this doesn't make any sense and it just doesn't go anywhere, and blah blah blah, And I'm like, oh, oh, but I enjoyed the heck out of it. Fun what totally different from his other films. Yeah, I was going to talk about that, like the other ones that we've watched because we were talking about how funny and like weird this one is, and I was thinking about long Legs, and I was like, long Legs was not very There was definitely comedy and long legs, but it was not the whole thing.

And it's weird. M m. But yeah, different black Coat's daughter and I am the pretty thing whatever. That title is blown in this house. It's not really played for laughs.

I mean there's funny stuff in his movies, yeah, but nothing as like this in your face is this? Yeah, which I think is fun. He's taking a little left hand turn here. M hmm. Well, because also he's in it, and he gives himself such a weird.

Fifth he's in it, which I was glad. I know he's fine. Our boy from Legally Blonde needs to be in stuff. Right your acting credits, bro, Your daughter has more than you know. Yeah, speaking of his daughter, I really liked that.

Just made me think of that shot when he walks into the bathroom at school, the twin that's kind of the main twin of the story that puts a little bit of news er sorry, yeah, I mean he's just more not really Yeah, And that shot of the girls the mean girls in the bathroom, just like compose almost made me think of Wes Anderson's stuff for a second there. It was very. Very stylized, and I'm like, oh, we're definitely floating in different waters in this film for him. Yeah, ignore the audience reviews because people don't know what they're talking about. It's a lot of fun.

It's interesting. He purposefully wanted to make Oscar Perkins wanted to make this humorous because the first draft that he had read of the script was like dead serious, like the story dark. Yeah, and he's like, I mean, it's a toy monkey. There's got to. Be I was literally I go to say, like, it's a toy monkey that's just killing people for fun.

Right, you kind of have to give it so it. Should be kind of ridiculous. Yeah, with his history, I don't know how much you know about his parents. Yes, oh you know his dad is Anthony Perkins, Yes, I do. And he died of AIDS.

He was a closeted gay man. I knew that. Yeah, you know, he had that environment growing up where it was this weird also closeted family secret but not a secret. And yeah, their mom who was kind of an actress, but I think more known for photography. Her sister was an actress, and you know, I don't know how that dynamic kind of worked out with the family of I'm married to this man, but he's, yeah, a closeted gay man, and I think it was more pushing under the table, like they didn't really talk about it, and because it was still you know, in the early seventies.

And and then of course he died in the eighties of complications due to age. And then his mom, their mom was in the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center. Okay, I was like, there's something yeah, yeah. Yeah, So I mean, rough a horrific day for America. But when you it sucks, wind it down to individuals.

I mean, these two kids lost their mother. That's the individual horror for him in this grand horrific event. They lost their mom and they had already lost their dad. I mean, they were adults by them, still more close to being adults. I think he's a little bit older than Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah, like it's still bad, but they weren't.

Like it's not like in the story where the kids have to now go live with their uncle, but there is definitely that part of the story here with them. Yeah, as far as you know, a personal connection to a weird Stephen King story. They lost both their parents and so he has some connection with that and decided the way his mom died probably not so much the way his dad died, but the way his mom died was sort of an absurd thing. Yeah, right, that's how very like that doesn't happen a lot. So well hope yeah, yeah, hopefully not.

But like it's a very like one time thing hopefully. So it's just like really bad. You go through that whole thing of why my mom, and I'm like, well, why not your mom? I mean why all these other people that were on the planes, that were in the building, et cetera. You can extrapolate out to I mean, all death is not only absurd but also completely normal.

Yeah, I mean everybody's going to die. Hey, that's what his mom talks about. That's what his mom says to him exactly. I'll try to insert the quote here because it's perfect. It's either in your sleep or some retal ridiculous way.

Yeah, and they go for ridiculous in this. Yeah, everybody dies. And that's life. I'll die and you will both die, and all of your friends and their parents and all of their pets. And everybody, some of us peacefully in our sleep, and some of us horribly violently died up with clothesline screaming through duct tape over our mouths and all that jazz.

And help with it. Oh, come on, let's go dancing, like adding a humor to the ridiculousness of it. And what are you gonna do? Yeah? What can you does?

Yeah, it was a fun movie that I really liked it. And it was as far as the humor goes their mom I'm thinking of in particular. Yeah, that's who I was. She's her line delivery was great at Oddball. Yeah, she was a goofball And it was really fun though that part of it reminded me of Tucker and Dale versus Evil, where the dialogue and stuff was so crisp and right, yeah and funny, like the priest.

I was gonna say, the priest being like. Bros presiding over the babysitters funeral. And then. It worked for me and I could see though not working for you know, these people that didn't care for it. Yeah, but also like people need to like bring back like actually having humor and stuff because like you're no fun, You're no fun.

People who are like it wasn't serious enough. It needs to be less funny, like bro let it be silly again. Like we said, this is a movie about a killer toy monkey that kills people when it bangs its drums. You wanted it to be serious. To me, that would be a tighter line to walk, to make it not ridiculous.

Yeah, because I think it's inherently ridiculous. Yeah, and not have people laughing at it because it's dumb or mak Yeah, that'd be hard to pull off. I think that's a good call to say this needs to be ridiculous because it literally is. I guess in the right hands, and even in his hands, it could be pulled off. Yeah, because he can do darks that like Black Coat's Daughter is a pretty serious movie.

Yeah, and dark, very dark. Yeah, it's very dark. And some of the shots of the monkey in this are genuinely frightening. Yeah. Look, he's a little freak.

He could pull it off. Somebody else could pull it off, but too. I also think that, yeah, inherently having a toy be the harbinger of death is inherently goofy. Yeah, it's Goofy's silly. Of course, there's like creepy dolls in stuff, but I thinks are also inherently more creepy, so you can get away with it more being more serious.

But a monkey, it could be done, I'm sure. But oh yeah, I think so. It was r the right call for this. Yeah, and also we enjoyed it, so you know, the most important thing. Yeah, I'm definitely rewatchable.

I think it was under ninety minutes that long. Yeah, I believe it was under ninety minutes, so I like that. I don't know, but I very much enjoyed it. The monkey was one hour thirty eight, so literally just. Over ninety minutes, so yeah, but still moved quickly.

Still pretty short, good supporting cast, like a goofy people. Fun, totally fun. It's fun. I liked it. Yeah, he's batten about nine hundred for me.

I like him. I like his stuff. I am the pretty thing. Still a little shaky on, but yeah, I've enjoyed everyone I've seen for multiple reasons. I also agree I like him.

Yeah, anything else you want to talk about the monkey or a strange darling or any other monkey kills that. Let me think if the b one, the wasp one, that one was gross. That hurt my heart. I thought we were going to have another explosion with the wall. Yeah, I thought he was going to explode, and then he kind of just like got eaten.

It was gross. Yeah, that swimming pool one is the funniest one, to be ridiculous. The setup for that is sort of ridiculous too, Like, why is this chick even out there in the middle of the night, Yeah, jump in this pool. The mechanations of how this happens, and that's kind of the point, it's dumb, goes back to what happened to his mom. It's all ridiculous.

Why did this happen? Why did this happen or hurt? Yeah? Why is this girl out there late at night getting ready in to swim in this pool where no one else is really around and that's not safe in the first place, and then this absolutely ridiculous consruance of events causes her to explode. Even his cameo character's death, he got trampled by a herd of wild horses in his sleeping bag.

Yeah, did the uncle. With his one chops? Yeah? So silly, very much so very silly. Anything else, I think that's it cool.

Once again, can always end these by saying, who knows when we'll be back, because you don't really have any vacations until summer vacation, but who knows what will happen. We may watch some stuff and have some free time to do this again. Before then, maybe after my grad practices, we can come home and I watch a movie. Okay, I don't know when that is so in May. The end of May come on now?

Alrighty well, thanks for joining me and all of see you later somewhere else in the house. I'm sure. Bye. Yep, I come out of my cake. Thanks to Cleo for being on the show.

Thanks to you all for giving us a listen, and don't forget anything can happen when you wake up heavy. Right like this and start off. Wow, this has just been such a pleasure. I'm such a lucky boy. I can't wait to go home.