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Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian. I am Greg. And this week we've had many things going on.

Weird scheduling issues. So we decided to put together a simple episode that, you know, I think a few times now we've decided we need to do different movies that not necessarily everybody wants to see. And certain members of the crew probably wouldn't watch. So, yeah, this was one of those times I was like, you know what, let's go with one of these. So....

Yeah, this week we're going to do a more condensed version, mostly focusing on the movie. But we can still try to do a. I've decided we need two variations of our geek activities. The controlled geek activities and the out-of-control geek activities. And this week we'll try to do a controlled version.

As for mine, just this past weekend I watched Red. Oh, yeah. Have you seen Red? I've not seen it, but I've been wanting to see it. It's, yeah, it's another one of those I'm putting, which is an ever-growing category of bad trailers.

Just that trailer kind of made it look dumb. You know, it focused on all the silly, Malkovich, goofy, running around stuff, and that's in there, but that's. Pretty minor compared to the other stuff going on. Yeah, because it seemed like Airplane from the commercial. Yeah, and it's not at all.

I mean, it comes off like a I mean, definitely it's. Got a comedic edge to it, but I wouldn't even call it a full-out comedy. I mean, it's mostly... I mean, everything that has Bruce as the lead starts to... Especially when it's not super serious.

He takes a little license to be funny, because that's his nature. But yeah, it definitely is more of a spy. You. Know, it's dealing with the CIA, and then the FBI, and then all these government cover-ups. I mean, it's definitely. more rooted in that part of the plot and dealing with these, you know, agents coming out of retirement and not near as much of the comedy that they work into that trailer.

So once again, misleading trailer. So I ended up liking it. I, it's not amazing. It's kind of what you expect. I mean, if, if the trailer didn't sell it badly, I think if you watch the trailer and you liked it, it's what you expect out of it.

It's, All the characters are pretty likable. I mean, the thing is, Malkovich is actually really good in it, at doing that thing. I mean, but again, it's a little more reserved. He's kind of out of his mind, but he plays it relatively normal a lot of the time. It's just funny that he's as crazy as he is.

And, you know, who doesn't like Bruce? You gotta like Bruce. Who doesn't like Morgan Freeman? I mean, you go into all these people, and you're just like, you kind of have to like this cast. Oh, and Helen Mirren, you know... for a woman her age I don't mind looking at her.

I'd hit that anyway she's pretty yeah she's pretty entertaining too so right everybody they bring in what's the weeds girl Mary Louise Parker yeah. She's again they hardly even show her in the trailer she's like half the movie I mean she's she comes into it with Bruce and then is there with them the entire time which they really don't make use of her I guess because she's not the novelty of old person coming out of retirement but right she's in it the whole movie and she's pretty entertaining too if i knew she was in it would probably sell it better yeah i think again they were marketing so heavily on the older crowd that it's like i mean she's got a huge fan base on you know from her show now so i they really once again should have kind of made sure you knew she was in there a little more because i think more people that weren't 60 would have gone to see this movie if they would have known a little more of what it actually was but.

Kind of the point of an ensemble cast is to bring a lot of groups together and more people in the theater and when you cut out a major actor what's the point of an ensemble cast. And the whole age range because i mean she's really the only person under you know i guess bruce is the next youngest person in the cast so Yeah, if they want to at least bring in a whole new demographic of slightly younger, at least the. 30-somethings, you know, go for that one. But, again, that may be why it didn't do killer at the box office. It did okay.

I'm sure it made its money back, but it wasn't a big blockbuster hit, and that may be why. It may be bad marketing and them not marketing. To the right people. Yeah. Again, it's not amazing.

It's not anything more than you would expect it to be. It's a fun movie dealing with, you know, crazy agents and government cover-ups and stuff. But I ended up having more fun with it than I kind of expected from that. Did you check it out? Yeah, it's definitely worth watching, especially if you like Bruce.

I mean, it's still a Bruce action movie. And, you know, you do get to see some awesome ass-kicking fights on occasion. Good. There's a few that, yeah, they come... Early on, no big spoiler, but they come into his house.

It's like agents come in to attack him. Yeah. He deals with them very nicely, by the way. Oh, the other one, uh, Carl Urban is the, I guess bad guy, but you know, that becomes questionable cause he's the one working for the government. So it, it sort of reverses some of the roles, but, um, yeah, he's sort of their, their nemesis through most of this.

And, uh, he's, he's awesome in it. Like he really, it's one of those, it's, I've, I've only seen him hit and miss over the years and different roles and, You can't really count him when he's, you know, doing the McCoy part. So seeing him, like, do a normal role, he's definitely got, you know, pretty impressive on-screen, you know, presence. So I definitely am looking forward to seeing him in other stuff in the future. And they do have an awesome fight between him and Bruce Willis.

Sounds good. So, yeah, that one's pretty damn impressive, too. Yeah, it sounds less of the AARP fest that I saw... In the trailers. Yeah.

They were really marketing the gimmick of that. And, I mean, it's based on a comic book, for God's sakes. And that's the other thing I want to give credit to is, like, the editing and the directing is really, like, impressive and, like, kind of fast-paced and fun. And, you know, it really does almost keep that comic book vibe, which, again, totally goes against. The retirement home crowd that we're dealing with here.

So it's, I mean. you know, edging more towards like a, a Scott Pilgrim kind of thing where it's like crazy visuals as they shift from one thing to the next. And like the really like pretty fast editing at different points. So it's like, again, it doesn't fit the way that they sold it. That's not really to their advantage, but again, it's, it's worth watching. So yeah, that was my, uh, big viewing of the weekend.

Uh, me, I'm going to go, I can bring up a lot of things, but I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to mention one thing that is definitely geeky. I rewatched a movie that I've seen probably 40 times, Cloak and Dagger. Wow. Yeah. It has been a long time for me.

Yeah. It's been quite a long time for me. And I had it on VHS that I taped off of Showtime. I didn't buy it. And a couple of things that stick out in my mind, it is, when you talk about pacing, it is extremely quick pace.

I mean, you know, you have the introduction with Dabney Coleman as Jack Black or Jack Flack or whatever his name is. And he takes down all the spies and Russians and everything in the beginning with the little role-playing segment. And I'd forgotten about the 12-sided die rolling at him. Wow. Which was awesome, you know.

But, you know, they're in the little game shop as kids. And then Bam. I mean, straight away he gives them their thing. They see a guy at the building with a gun, and it's just one scene right after another. There's no time to dwell on a scene.

You just basically are straight into a full action movie. And I assumed at the time it was a kid's movie, and it is not a kid's movie at all. People getting shot, people getting tortured. Yeah. That's a lot of, you know, we go back and look at the, especially the movies of the 80s that were deemed.

Okay for kids. And they are not at all okay. Some of the themes in this movie, you know, just, and it's, you know, if you look at it as not a kid's movie and not that the main character is a kid and, you know, the guy helping him is pretend. All of that aside, it's a pretty good spy, you know, type. They do a good job of it, and and it it it holds up you know which which was really you know you think of it as maybe a throwaway movie and it really held up i was entertained even though i knew everything that was going on i was uh definitely entertained by the movie um interesting yeah uh try to think if.

There's anything that else that struck me as as an adult um Well, it's funny you mentioned the right into it. That is, it's funny, I mean, I guess they go together, both being sort of spy movies, but just editing-wise, I mean, that's exactly what Red did, and more so than, again, than I expected. Like, it would, it becomes this, like, all over the country, like, it just, as soon as the action takes place, it's just, bam, they're in a car, and they're driving, and it's the city, and then, bam, all of a sudden, they're halfway across the country, and they're like, So yeah, there really isn't any downtime in. That one either. So it's, yeah, this is an interesting tie-in, I guess.

Yeah, they did tie in very well. I just, yeah, I was just impressed with, that was the thing that stuck out with me the most is they don't give, it's the transitions that they don't dwell on like a lot of movies do. They don't hold a, a shot for a little bit longer to transition into the next. No, it's a cut straight to the next one. Yeah.

So it's, it's, and another thing I noticed from it is I want to go visit San Antonio. It seems like a pretty cool place. Awesome. So, um, I guess I'm sure it's changed in 20 years. Well, probably, I'm going to ask, and only because I've, it's a very specific thing and probably one of the harder cells for me to go back and watch it.

How is Dabney Coleman to watch now? Because he was... I mean, he was ridiculously popular at that point. I tell you what, you know, the dad character is kind of your typical dad. He could play anybody.

But actually seeing the difference... You know, obviously because he's seeing his dad, the character through his dad. They're played by the same person. At the beginning, they're polar opposites of each other. You know, they've got their...

You know, the character has... all of these, you know, grandiose sayings and, and, and actions and things that, you know, that dad would never do that. And you can see that he's definitely, um, doing a good job of playing two roles. And, but as the movie goes on, those lines are blurred, you know, and, and okay, it's Dabney Coleman. Um, Gosh, I don't know how to put it. It's a pretty good job.

I wasn't distracted by him. I wasn't thrown off and go, oh, this is cheesy. I think he did a pretty good job. He's really likable in a lot of stuff at that time. But he also plays that specific character almost every time.

He varies it minorly depending on whatever his profession is in each movie. But he's pretty much in the same little wheelhouse there. It's kind of fun. I'm not saying he has range. Well, it's one of those, he's almost always in comedies, where this one has still got a little comedy to it, but you're kind of supposed to take him serious.

I'm trying to think of times that I've watched him and stuff, and he had to be serious, and the movie was entirely serious. Well, the dad is definitely serious, and he does an okay job with that, but Jack is that... quirky, you know, one-liner delivery kind of guy. Yeah. And, you know, plays the role through a kid's eye. Not what a...

Not what an adult would do as a spy, but what a kid would think a spy would do as an adult. So I'm sure that's not, I'm not an actor, I'm sure that's not easy to pull off. But again, I'm not saying Dabney Coleman had range at the time either. So it's, I'll put it this way. Bottom line, it's entertaining even for somebody my age now, you know.

And I knew everything that was going to happen. I knew the lady with the fingers was, you know. I don't want to spoil anything. Gosh, my gosh. I hope you've seen Cloak and Dagger by now.

Let me ask you this. Now, having kids, is it something that would play for kids? I mean, would it work for this generation of kids coming up now? You know, I would think it would be a PG-13 for sure now. You know, you see a guy fall down the stairs dying on the kid.

And, you know, assassinated right in front of him. You know, it's way too big of themes. for children. It would not be a PG movie. I wouldn't let my kids watch it probably until they were 12. Kind of, but I think about stuff that they put on regular television now versus what they used to in the 80s.

You know, I mean, if kids are staying up late enough to see any procedural show, they've probably seen horrible things on it. Well, again, my children don't stay up, they don't watch any shows past 9 o'clock, so they're not, I mean, the oldest is 7, but I don't know. I shouldn't have been... Looking back on it, I shouldn't have been watching it repeatedly at that... I mean, I knew...

He goes into... The bad guy... One of the bad guys go into... detailed description of what would happen to him when he shot his kneecaps off. And, oh, it's not going to kill you, but it's going to be the worst pain you've ever felt. That's a good thing for any kid to know, though, really.

Right, right. I've used that many times growing up. So, you know, again, but it's around this time that I was seeing and watching Red Dawn repeatedly, too. That's not something a kid my age would do. We were a very violent, militant generation of children.

What do you want? I mean, I saw... I had Commando taped, and I would re-watch that, and that's probably got more death for any movie ever. That's plenty R. So, and by God, a guy dying through a, what was it, a steam tube that goes through him?

Yeah. That's pretty violent stuff. But I watched it for Alyssa Milano, so. Well, sure. You know.

As any kid would at that point. Right. Yeah. So does that round out your geek week? I guess so.

I mean, I played a lot of Final Fantasy XII. I've played that game so many times. Well, no, not so many times. Just so much quantity. And I restarted it about a week ago.

And I, you know, stay up late while everyone else is asleep and play it. And I'm really pitiful. So we'll move on. That's pretty geeky. Oh, this week's all about being happy.

Are there any happy songs you can think of? Happy songs. R.E.M.? Not that one. That's too happy?

Not that one. Do they have any other ones? That one's a little... That's a little too happy? It's a little too...

As much as I like them, I kind of want to smack them all on that song. You know what? In the past four or five albums, I kind of want to smack them all too. Well, yeah, that too. Yeah, they've sort of lost their way.

Yeah. I don't know. I was trying to think of their city. Or I was going to say, do we want to do songs that just make us happy? Do you have a song that just makes you happy?

Oh, man. I'm pressure on me to think of something. You know, in a sad, sick way, Tom Waits always makes me happy and he shouldn't. I can't argue with that. Maybe we'll take a break and go out with some Tom Waits and come back with this week's movie.

Oh, I know I've been changing. Oh, I've been changing. No, I've been changed. Angels in heaven don't sign my name. Angels in heaven don't sign my name.

Well, I don't know how I got religion. Lord, Lord, I'm not ashamed. With the Holy Ghost as my witness. And the angels don't sound my name. Oh, I say I know I've been changed.

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It started as a game. Now they are playing for keeps. Trying to kill us. And the only person who believes in it is a legendary agent named Flack. And Dagger, rated PG.

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I wanted to work as a phone surveyor. I said I was sorry. No need to be sarcastic. No, really. Really?

I had a job interview a couple of days ago, but they said I wasn't qualified. Trust me, you wouldn't want this job. But why? I really like talking on the phone with people, asking them all sorts of questions. What's your name?

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Lay. Welcome back to Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater. This week's sofa theater feature is... Again, it depends on who you go by. I would look at it and say $ 9.

99. Right. Or if I were going to get super technical, $ 9. 99. Right.

The director refers to it as $ 9. 99. Right. Very Australian. The third way that I would never actually say.

So $ 9. 99 is how the. Director refers to it. The year is 2008. The director is Tatia Rosenthal.

The plot, according to IMDb.... A stop-motion animated story about people living in a Sydney apartment complex looking for meaning in their lives. And a giant spoiler alert, because, again, this is all very weird and convoluted at times, so we're going to have to go into the entire plot to make any sense, what little sense we can of any of it. So, yeah, actually, if you're listening to it within a decent amount of time from when we record. This, it's on the Netflix Instant Watch right now, so... stop, go watch it, and come back.

Usually the animated movies, they don't leave on for very long. Yeah, so. The adult animated movies. Not that adult. Not that adult.

But slightly adult, so. Mature is the wrong word to use, too. No, no. R-rated? But that still kind of sounds a little too.

Non-children's? There you go. Non-children animated. I'm still pushing it. Yeah.

It's for grown-ups. Yeah, animation for grown-ups. It's like Adult Swim, all right? Yeah, there you go. So, spoiler alert, go watch it.

Yeah. Alright, that having been said, where would you like to begin? Well, um, Mr. Ripper's going to spoil it. I guess you start with the first scene.

I have to say, that is one of the most interesting and, um... off-putting openings to a movie. I've seen some that are equally as odd and kind of, yeah, just catch you off guard. But, yeah. You could sit and have a full conversation about that one scene. Yeah.

And really, it almost works on its own. Like, that's one you could take and just make a short film of that first five minutes or whatever it is until the credits start. Right. And it's pretty damn impressive on its own. Yeah.

Just in the animation, too. Yeah. Definitely. But I guess we'll get into the animation later, right? However you want to do it.

We're going to start with the technical stuff and then work to the story. We can get to the story. That's what people come for, right? I don't know. Not necessarily in this movie, but we'll see.

I guess you would say the story is making you ask questions about the meaning of life. Kind of. When one of the characters buys a book. about, and it costs $ 9. 99 about the meaning of life, then that's the, I guess, that's the shove it in your face story. That's what I was going to say.

This movie is not subtle at all. No. I mean, when you inject your story with actual angels with wings and a book that says the meaning of life on the cover of it, I mean, it's very heavy-handed with the ideas that they're placing already. Right. You know, where they go from there, I mean, it's not necessarily a bad thing.

You just have to know that going in, that it's, you know, very quickly going to be kind of heavy-handed with its messages and the themes. That they're throwing at you. So, you know, they don't disguise them in any way. Yeah. It definitely seems like it's several different people.

Like they say, an apartment complex, it's several different people. Loosely interacting over the course of a few days or whatever you want to consider it. And how, I guess, how their interactions and what they're searching out for are affecting their search for meaning, I suppose. They're not overtly looking for meaning in their lives. Well, one of them.

One of them. The one who orders the book. Right, right. But other than that, everyone at least has to ask some of those questions along the way. Yeah.

One thing that... I'll let the listeners know. I wrote notes in preparation for this. I don't have those with me, so I'm probably going to jump all over the place. But one thing that, one theme that kept coming up in my mind with the story was the idea of loneliness.

There's a lot of people in the story that are dealing with, well, poor communication and loneliness. Definitely. Um, you know, the father of the kid that buys the book, the boy himself, there's an old man in the apartment, there's always an old man in every apartment complex, but there's, and there's two of them actually, there's the magician and the old retired fellow. Yeah. There's a woman who is pregnant, you know, and her boyfriend, and they may or may not be getting engaged, and they're not communicating with each other well, and they're both lonely and wanting the other person to be back with them, and it just seems like And a lot of stories, that's the motivation for the problem is poor communication.

But a lot of this is how you deal with that. One thing that sticks out in my mind, the old man, he's a widower and in his apartment alone and a telemarketer calls to ask questions. Not marketing, but a survey. And he's just interested in her voice. He isn't even part of the story.

The survey that they're doing, but he just wants to keep talking. Yeah. He just wants someone to talk to. He spends the whole, especially the first half of the movie, just trying to get somebody to listen to him. He just sits by himself all day.

So anytime he comes in contact with somebody, he just wants to talk to them and have some sort of connection. And most of the time, they don't want anything to do with him. but right yeah I think I mean if even if not loneliness which that definitely is a big part of it but I think the overall like arc of everything is relationships like it really and that is part of it but I think it's everybody that is in this building and comes into play and the storyline is dealing with some sort of situation with a relationship or how they relate with other people. It, it, to me, it's all very tied into dealing with other people in general. Right. Right.

Um, I don't know. We can go into those specific dynamics of each, you know, people going on. Um, I mean, I guess the main, if there is a sort of main. Character, probably the father of the rush, there's only like. Two recognizable names as far as, um, you know, Americans are concerned.

A lot of it is voice actors in Sydney. I think, uh, the, the father, the, his name is, uh, Jim, Jim, Jim is the father. And that's Anthony Paglia. Right. Most people, you know, have seen him probably a lot of stuff.

Uh, the only other one is the homeless man who takes on a whole different role, I guess, as time goes on, uh, as Jeffrey Rush. So, I mean, those are kind of your big names is, is as Americans go, I'm sure the other people might be recognizable in Australia, but yeah. looking through them I didn't really notice in him so that was I guess their big one so I guess the other main character I mean you get a lot with Jeffrey Rush too but he doesn't really tie into it in any right he does we'll get to him later he's only really in a few scenes as well yeah so yeah I think and it's sort of like the whole thing sort of begins and ends with the dad character so I think he becomes more of the you know if you have focus of something that kind of Scatters itself around as much as this one does.

It's, yeah, the Jim Peck is his name. He's the dad of two of the other kids. You know, his grown sons are also the other characters that come into play, too. Morning. Great cake.

I'm sorry about yesterday. Oh, it's not your fault. Maybe you were right. You know, when I was in the army, my lieutenant used to say, There's no such thing as a bad soldier. Only a bad commander.

I guess the same goes for fathers. And husbands. Oh, Dad. He, like, from the beginning, which, again, we've already thrown out the spoiler alert, but within the first scene that we were talking about earlier, he witnesses someone die. And from that point, kind of begins to reassess his life.

And specifically his role as a father to these two boys that aren't really on the path that he probably would have wanted them to be on at this point. So, I mean, one of them is unemployed, sits at home all day. The other one is repossessing people's furniture. Right. And basically a thug.

Yeah. So neither of them are probably where he wants them to be. Do we know what he does? I mean, he's in a suit. He's a businessman of some sort.

He mentions something about, in the field I work in, it's about... manipulation, but he never really... I don't think he ever really talks about exactly what he does. But he's in a suit most of the movies. I mean, he's, you know, I guess by most people's terms successful, but... At best, he's middle class.

He's still probably questioning some of his choices as a person anyway, even in his own life. He even mentions, if I were 20 years younger, I would join you and your brother to repossess people's stuff. If you're a successful businessman, that's a great life to take people's things. He definitely has some things that he's working through, some problems. His wife, Has left him for someone else.

That's a big concern. I mean, it's mostly, you know, the fatherhood dealing with what his sons have become and the relationship. Which, again, his relationship is one that's gone. But it bothers him a lot because he continually comes back to, well, you know, when your mother left or raising you boys by myself. Or, like, it continually comes around as still. sort of a sore spot.

And I think it's been a long time. I mean, the fact that he mentions raising you by myself, it's not like she's just left. Yeah. They're, they're easily in their twenties. So it's like, not like it's been six months ago.

It's like, this has. Been years and years and it still comes up on a daily basis. So it's, it's definitely something he's still trying to work through. So, right. He's, he's got a lot of issues there.

He definitely doesn't listen to anyone about, He is definitely concerned about himself. Um, his sons, um, they express their wants or the things they're interested in, you know, like this, his son and cooking, you know, obviously he's a huge role in his life and he keeps telling him, you need to go out and make something of yourself and do something. And the logical conclusion is, Hey, go be a chef. Never even so much as mentions that. Um, And, I mean, you know, if we're talking just about his relationship, I think by the end of it is when he finally breaks down and gives in and listens to his son is the first time he seems to enjoy anything.

Or even evolves as a character. Yeah. I mean, that's, I guess, where we can go with each of these is, you know, and bring it back to where they're good. Because the whole idea of this is happiness. And they're all, you know... what's the name of the book?

The, uh, the meaning of life, meaning of life. So, I mean, really it's, it's, you know, what, what is the meaning of your life? And basically trying to find happiness is, is what they're all sort of going through. And I think we can, you know, look at him. And again, that's where I took it with him is the relationships.

I mean, he has no significant other relationship. The only people he has in his life are his sons. Yeah. And he has spent this whole time. He, he really cares about him.

So it's not like he's totally selfish and he's like a bad person. he's probably one of the more likable people in the entire movie, but he's so like blind to, you know, what they actually want. And he, he's very, he's not even really controlling. He just, he wants the best for him, but he won't really listen. You know, he won't let them find their way to do it. He just wants to keep pushing them to do better, but he doesn't, you know, find a good way to go about it, which, you know, a lot of fathers probably fall into that category.

It's, it's hard to play that game. So it, I think he, again, is probably one of the more likable characters in the whole movie. But I think his relationship is, yeah, I mean, all he has left is his sons, really. And that's the only people you really see him interact with in the whole movie on, you know, a real basis. And in the end, I think it's him reconnecting with his son.

It's that, you know, like you said, that he breaks down that bond and actually starts to talk to him like a real person. And they kind of reconnect. And in that little moment there, That really is. Like, that's sort of his, him finding his way to happiness. I think it is.

Yeah. You know, again, it's back to relationships. It's learning how to deal with the people in your life and finding out what you need to, you know. The meaning of life is, you know, your family with a lot of these people. Yeah.

Do we want a different character to talk about? Probably. I mean, trying to think, do we, I mean, the son, the, the, Younger son is sort of tied up in that. He doesn't have a whole lot separate. He's just there to sort of introduce the book and to come into play with the dad stories.

He doesn't really develop. Yeah. Other than I think he decides that he wants to be a telemarketer himself. Yeah. He likes talking to people.

Yeah. And it seems like he doesn't have much of a solo story. It's just him always reading the book and then trying to explain to other people, you know, how this, because he's, you know, as he gets into it and he's paid $ 9. 99 for this meaning of life. And he starts really kind of buying into it as, you know, I guess a lot of people do on these like self-help books or anything that's supposed to be the key to all your problems.

Yeah. He totally buys into it and goes around, you know, Dad, you know, this is, you know, it says the key, you know, happiness is this. Or, you know, people never lie. People never lie. Yeah.

Which is the part, that's the part that I wanted to hear more. I know. I say, Dad, did you know that people never lie? It's actually, and then he gets cut off. And there's no meaning to life.

There's six meanings to life. And I'm like, no, keep talking about what's in that book. Because it sounds like bullshit. I'd pay ten bucks just to read this. I know.

It sounds like kind of a lot of fun. And I know I could read it because it took him a day to read. Not even a day. That's not even a day. You're right.

It's more of a large pamphlet. Yeah, I think... I don't know why the old man widower struck me as... Maybe the character I identify the most with. Yeah.

Of course, my house is full of people. I've got plenty of interactions all day. I think I should be the one that identifies with it. But he just... It's that...

You know, he apparently has the money and the ability to go and do whatever he wants. And he has the desire to go and do whatever he wants. He just never has. Yeah. And I think that's something all of us maybe sometimes waste our lives...

Thinking we're going to do something and don't do. So that one... Again, is a big, you know, key to happiness. You know, it's like figuring out what it is that you need and realizing sometimes that you're just not doing what you need to do. He loves to travel, but he hasn't traveled. in decades since his wife died.

Well, okay, you've got a problem there. So, yeah, I mean, sometimes it is just... And I think that's what I decided with him. I mean, there's a lot of other weird stuff going on in his story that I guess we can get to later. But in the end, when it comes to that time to resolve the story, because I think his is...

This is a weird story because I think they don't– for as much as I like his character and he has a decent amount of screen time, I think they don't develop him much at all. I think they don't do near as much with him as some of the other people that I don't even like as much but they spend more time with or they at least give them some sort of arc to their story where his is just like the same over and over again and then like one quick fix at the end. Yeah, other than– the rooftop encounter that he has when he's kind of coaxing the other person on. Yeah. That's an interesting one because I didn't quite see that coming.

No. Not from his character anyway. But it's go ahead, do it. You know, and maybe that's the part of him, you know, because he eventually just, okay, I'm just going to go and I'm going to go travel. And he does at the end.

And I think that's part of it is that, you know, it's taking the initiative to do what you want to be in control of what you want. And I think that is, you know, his like meaning of life kind of thing is like in the end, it's not just sitting there waiting to die, which is kind of what he was doing. It's, you know, obviously that's not going to be your happiness. You need to find some other way to it. And his was just taking the initiative to do whatever it was he wants to do.

And, He also has, he's the only person that really has a religious background. You know, he's listening to the radio broadcast or radio evangelist or whatever it is. And you can tell that this show is a sham of a show anyway. Aren't the call letters for the radio station G-O-D? Yeah, yeah.

And he's not only listening to this alone in his apartment, but he's on his knees listening to it. is in his apartment, almost as though it's prayer. And eventually, you know, a lot about religion and that sort of religion is about just blind faith, blind belief. And again, the rooftop encounter that he has, because with that individual, when he meets him earlier, he just opens his door, gives him everything he wants and lets this person walk all over him. And by the end, with this relationship. He's just...

It's that show me that, prove it. Yeah. If you are, prove it. Which is a questioning of faith. Exactly.

So, you know, there is some evolution in his character, and I appreciate that. Again, I don't know. I hope I'm not a miserable old man and lonely because I'm... Maybe that's my biggest fear. So maybe that's why I identify with him the most.

I'm already there. I'm going to go shove somebody off a roof. Anyways. Yeah, exactly. It's funny, though, that you mentioned the faith aspect.

And now I'm thinking, especially in his tie-in to the story, up until that point, if you factor in religion, so much of religion is blind faith. It really is. And it's all about the end result. It's like you don't worry about life. Life is just you do what God tells you to make sure that you get to the end and the ultimate reward kind of thing.

So it's kind of that same thing of like almost waiting around to die until I get to the end where everything is going to be great. And we overlook the fact that you're on earth for kind of a long time. Regardless of where you think you're going in the end, you really should find some way to be happy while you're here too. So I think that it's– yeah, once you brought that up, I was like there is really that– waiting to get to the final destination thing that you're just sitting around not accomplishing anything until you get to that, where this sort of says, hey, do something with your life, and that's the key to your happiness. That's the meaning of life.

Go do something for God's sake. He does enjoy his ginger snaps, though, and he likes to share them. Everybody in this movie likes some cookies, I'll tell you. They're always passing cookies off to other people. Cookies, yeah.

What about the other son and his interaction with the supermodel? See, that's my... This is the weird part of the movie. And probably my least favorite. And I think it's just because I'm not invested in either of those characters.

Right. Specifically her. She seems like a horrible person. Oh, yeah. I mean her– that's what I was trying to decide what their take on it was because I didn't– by the time I had everybody else and I had all these big grand themes of what they were doing and I got to them and I was like, don't be superficial.

Right. I mean the big thing I think it comes into and I guess, again, all of these playing in with relationships and how we deal with other people. With that one, the major theme there is about being manipulated by someone else. Oh, yeah. And I mean all the rest of these are sort of finding your way to connect with people.

But with that one, I think it's also of setting boundaries of like just because you want to be with someone doesn't mean let them walk all over you and turn you into what they want you to be. Again, it's not subtle about any of this. It takes a weird turn that– I can let you go into, but I think it definitely... Let's leave that one for everyone to... I don't know.

I kind of want to know what the hell's going on in that part. Okay, well.... But in general, I think before we even get to the weird part, I think that's the only thing you can take from that. I mean, the rest of it is just them... She's just so full of herself and, oh, I'm a supermodel.

And to me, she's not any prettier than the teacher. Right. I don't think she's that hot. I'm sorry. I know she's clay, but I don't think she's any hotter than the other girl.

She's hot for some clay. Yeah, whatever. She's no, you know. And you do get to see some full frontal clay nudity in this movie. Yeah, male, female, take your pick.

You get a whole lot of naked. Not a whole lot, but you get specific scenes of naked. I don't know if you think about, you get a lot of male if you think about. You know. How long it took them to do that?

Well, no. How long did they sit looking at that little puppet naked? I'm just talking about her other, her exes. You get a whole lot of them. Yeah, a whole lot of them.

But I think, I mean, before we get to the weirdness, I think that's really the only thing you can take is looking at her and how superficial she is. And she starts to kind of drag him into it as, you know, it's not even like she never even asked, like, oh, what do you love about me? She's like, what do you think is the most beautiful thing about me? You know, it's like from, you know, everything she says is nothing but superficial, is nothing but, you know, surface beauty. And that's all there is to it.

And, you know, she's the first time you see her character. The first thing she says is he's the he's the repo guy. He's there to pick up someone else's stuff. She's moving into the apartment complex and she walks up to him and she says, that's not my microwave. She's so consumed with it's about me all the time.

It's all about me, yeah. That that's not my microwave. She doesn't even know who her movers are, what the truck looks like, anything. Not, hi, how are you? She automatically assumes it's about her and that that person's wrong.

Yeah. Which is the way a good portion of society is. Right, right. So again. And how dare they be late.

So, yeah, she's a piece of work. So, yeah, I don't really like either of them. I mean, he starts off okay when he's in the other story, but when he crosses over into her, you start to not like him either because she rubs off on him and then becomes completely, no pun intended, I guess, but. Putty in her hands. So, yeah.

But yeah, I mean I think that's the only theme you can really take from that is, like I said, about not being totally manipulated because everything is about relationships with these characters. That's the one. I mean everybody else is about connecting, about getting into a relationship, about hanging on to a relationship. Theirs is about don't let somebody completely screw you over in a relationship. Right.

You know, he starts out as a good character. He does. He's good to his brother. He's good to his father. He's good to the old man.

And he's extremely nice to the woman who's crying and obviously pregnant. He sees her. He says that she's pregnant and is even willing to introduce her as my fiance to someone else. You know, he's showing that he's not just about chasing a model. He is.

He would be perfectly happy to accept the teacher who's already pregnant and crying in the bar or wherever, the smoothie bar or whatever that he meets her at. And so he seems like a pretty decent guy and willing to even help out some of the people who are getting repoed. But then he starts sacrificing himself in every way for his idea of perfection all along the way. And what is he willing to give up? To keep this thing that he may not be able to keep or get love back from.

Yeah, and just that, you know, they bring up that, well, what is there without love question? And it's like, how far will you go to make someone else happy? And that is love, is that total giving of yourself, but the. Other person has to be doing that too. You know, it's like. it can't be a one way street because then they're just screwing you over and they're just, you know, they're completely controlling you and that isn't love.

So yeah, he definitely does that, that I will do anything for you, but she has no interest in him really. She just wants to, Mold him into what she wants him to be. Literally. Literally and creepily as it goes on. Do we want to go into.

I mean, it starts with the hairless thing, which is creepy. But again, people have that. She likes her men hairless. Right. And it starts with the bald and the chest.

Then the head. Eyebrows. Yeah, so by midway into the movie, he's completely shaved. He's just a seal. And plucked his eyebrows.

Yeah, that's the part where it's really like... Or eyelashes. yeah he was playing along and i was just like even the shaving your head i'm like well you know maybe if you wanted to do that anyway i might shave my head for a model yeah. But but when she like gets an eyelash in her mouth while she's kissing him and he walked he immediately stands up walks in the other room and starts plucking out his eyelashes it becomes creepy at that point i'm just like whoa it was weird before now it's just uncomfortably. Creepy that's a whole lot of stubble too yeah that's a lot to deal with do you have eyelash stubble i guess you would eventually and then it gets into a. Weirder area yeah do you want to go into that i.

I guess i mean if you want if you really think you're gonna stop the show and watch it and then he she. I mean we can at least preface it by saying it Everything– the majority of this movie is very normal. Like it could almost be told with living people and very traditionally. And then you enter two or three little areas where it becomes very– it realizes, hey, we're a cartoon essentially. We're animated.

We can break the rules. We can do weird things. Mm-hmm. And we're not geared for kids, so we can do creepy weird things. So there's specifically two incidences, the most weird of which is this one.

Yeah. She has some strange furniture in the house that even the movers remarked about. And they're prominent in the rooms. And it's obvious that she cares about them. Well, it turns out that he discovers a pamphlet...

For bone removal surgery. Not only does she like them hairless, she likes them totally smooth. Totally. Like skeletal system is too much for her to deal with. Totally smooth.

So he actually, for love, or what he thinks is love, has his bones removed. And actually... Gets to interact with, before this happens, gets to interact with her former lovers or maybe even current lovers. You don't know. Yeah, you don't really know.

It makes it even weirder when the furniture starts talking to him. Yeah. And, you know, they start arguing about which one is less manly because they, you know, because it was a painful surgery. Yeah. Which I'm sure it's very painful.

I guess it would be. What, they take the skull out through your nose? Right, yeah, that's what it was. They take the skull out. Yeah, so it's unsettling.

We'll put it that way. Yeah, and again, weird things catch you off guard in this movie because, again, because it's so traditional up until, like, all the other scenes are just people interacting and having, I mean, the majority of it is dialogue, you know? So it's all very normal dialogue. sitting around living rooms, talking back and forth. And then all of a sudden, furniture has a face on it and starts talking to people and scooting around. It's very unnerving.

Well, and that's the thing. You almost forget until then. This is the most of the way through the movie. The animation is well done. It's extremely well done.

And it is about relationships and conversations. And you forget about the fact that it's... an animated movie and then out of nowhere you're just like smacked in the face with this so um again if you listen to that it's probably spoiled that revelation but that's okay yeah we we warned you ahead of time we warned you. But i mean there wasn't much else to them that was just the weird thing that happened with them but again they to me didn't have that much other than that That. May a little. Other than how much are you willing to sacrifice for what you think is love?

Yeah. So again, giving a little too much into a relationship. Right. I would say maybe that's just me, but I mean, she better be a damn hot. That's all I got to say.

Magnificently for you to get turned into a beanbag chair. I don't remember. Did, did one of the sexual encounters occur on one of the chairs? Cause that's pretty gross. I can't remember.

Yeah. I don't think it did. I don't think it did. That would be really creepy. That'd be really creepy.

So, and kind of a three way. So, yeah. Let's see. The father and the little boy? Yeah, I was going to say the kid.

Yeah. This is my piggy bank. I don't know his name yet. Every time after I drink my milk, I get money to put in his back. He's nothing like my other toys.

He's much calmer. He doesn't have batteries, and he can't fill them with water. Well, he can, but it's not a good idea. Dad says he's educational because this way I won't grow up to be a thug. But I think the coolest thing about him is his smile.

Look, I'll show you. I put 50 cents in his back and he smiles like this. I put 20 cents in and look, his smile is exactly the same. And now for the best part. I'm putting no money in at all.

And he's still smiling. Again, that's another one of those that they do a whole lot of setting up of this situation. But in the end, not near as much payoff as probably needs to be there for me. Right. It's definitely got a very huge message behind it.

But I don't know. I guess where do you want to take it? The boy wants to buy a soccer figure. Think of everybody wanting at some point some kind of action figure. Some sort of toy.

Excuse me, football. A kid that wants a toy. That's basically all this is. And so his father thinks he should learn the lesson. He's probably, what, eight or nine?

Somewhere around there, yeah. Learn the lesson of saving and not getting what he wants right away. He says, you know, you don't always get what you want in life and you have to wait for it. Or you have to work for it. You have to earn it so that, you know, he's trying to teach him, again, they like the word thug.

Right. So he doesn't grow up and be a thug. And think that, you know, you get things for nothing. He wants him to understand that you have to earn things, you know, you have to work your way through life. And, you know, again, that's almost a good fathering, you know, there's...

There's decent relationships in there, and there's people that are trying, but sometimes it goes a different way. And I think in that storyline, I think there's another mother missing in that as well. Kind of, yeah. I don't know that you... They just don't mention her, I don't think.

Yeah. But he is... He gives his son a piggy bank, the kind that you don't have the plug at the bottom. Yeah, which is why they started putting those in there, by the way. Right.

As we find out. And he's a ceramic pig. Right. And a good personality on the pig. Yeah, he's got a nice happy smile.

And the boy is, every day that he drinks his milk, he's given 50 cents or something like that. And then he can save up to buy soccer jack. Whatever he's called. Some sort of crazy ball kicking action figure. And by the end of it, the kid's got enough to save it up.

Has saved up enough to buy and then some. Yeah. His soccer jack and... You know, he's changed from drawing pictures of Soccer Jack to drawing pictures of the pig. And he's in love with, not in love with, but it's his toy.

It's the thing that he cherishes now and he doesn't really care about. And it almost has like personality at that point. Like he really does like. It's almost like a pet at this point. He starts carrying it around.

He talks to it. Takes it to show and tell. Yeah, he takes it to show. I mean, it's. Definitely at least a toy.

But again, he almost interacts with it more like it's an actual creature. He really does start to be attached to it. So much so that once it becomes time to break it open and get his money out, not only does he not want the toy, he so much doesn't want that to happen that he goes to. Set him free. Yeah.

Which, again, in kid logic makes sense. I don't make fun of the kid. Again, this is one of the characters I kind of like more because he's so endearing and he so cares about this pig that he's willing to let it go. Again, it's almost that what would you give to preserve someone else? How much would you give for, quote-unquote, the love of someone else?

This relationship you're dealing with. With him, it's him and a ceramic pig. But again, he's willing to let it go for it to not be destroyed. Rather than have it smashed, he'd rather go set it free in the park, which just means somebody's. Going to take it.

Somebody's going to take it. He doesn't know that but in his mind he's willing to let it go to save him which again he's one of the better more likable characters in. My mind and the boy actually has he believes i think that the pig is alive. I mean, he talks about it at school as though it, you know, interacts with him. And so, yeah, I think he does think that he's setting us free, which I'm sure is a, probably a perfectly healthy thing for a boy that probably doesn't have his mother, you know, to, to do at least he's in control of something.

But, um, I'm, you know, I'm not an analyst that knows what's right for children, but, um, yeah, it's, He is one of the more likable characters. I like that he gives up on the sports figure. And he doesn't love the money within it. He loves the actual physical thing. That's what I think was, again, if you're going with the most heavy-handed message here, it's that he learns to not care about the money.

And his dad is trying to teach him morals, and he's trying to teach him. You have to earn your way through life. Right. But you can take that the wrong way and it could become about greed and that his entire day is about squirreling away these coins and stockpiling money and getting things with it. And in the end, he starts to value the pig itself more than the money that's in it.

So I mean his is that basic, I guess. And then I guess you take with it from that that giving of himself, willing to– give up the pig altogether to save him. I'd drink milk every day if I got 50 cents. Really? I don't know.

Can I switch up with, like, coffee? Well, I'd pay 50 cents. Yeah, no, it's... Yeah, I mean, that's a good relationship. I think something was trying to be said when the kid meets the homeless man at one point.

We'll call him that. And. has a slight interaction with him and then the father comes up and says do you know this man why were you talking to him he's a stranger get away kind of thing and you know once you get to know the homeless man you probably wouldn't want your child around him but at the same time there's that whole I don't know I'd like to think that you know I would I look for the good in people and you know, wouldn't judge somebody based on the fact that they are homeless. So, I mean, if they sound like Jeffrey Rush, I mean, maybe I don't want my kids around them either, but. And this guy's just kind of a jerk. He's a, even after his change, he might even be more of an asshole.

Yeah, I think he is, actually. He treats everybody with zero respect. He's just kind of like, weird in the beginning, but by the time he goes through his change, yeah, he's just a. Jerk all the time. Yeah.

Yeah, it's... I guess we can wrap up with him. I think the only other people we have to hit would be, like, the couple, which really, I mean, she doesn't have much. She's got her few key scenes, but other than that, it becomes about the guy in this unhappy relationship. And he...

His is, again, a very specific, heavy-handed message. Right. And his is also the other one that enters into that little fantasy element. That's the other one where you're just like, oh, okay, this is going by cartoon rules, which is, he, basically, he's, they're in this relationship, she wants to take it to the next level anyway, on top of that, I guess, now pregnant, so now they kind of, there's even more reason to, you know, she just wants to get married and Have this family and, you know, move into an adult relationship. Right.

And she just basically accuses him of being 15 forever. I mean, he doesn't want to grow up. He doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, really. I mean, he's he's. willing to marry her, but she's not really thrilled with the way that he puts that. He doesn't want her to be willing.

It's a responsibility. It's something you should want to do, and he doesn't. He obviously does. Well, he does. Care about her, and he does love her, I think.

He just is such a child that he won't accept responsibility. He won't own up to the fact that, okay, I do love her, and to, you know, To do the adult thing is to commit myself to her. I know not everybody feels that way. But, I mean, in this circumstance specifically, I mean, you've also gotten her pregnant at this point. I think he says at one point, you know, when they're arguing at the beginning, it's something like, well, marriage is meaningless to me.

Which, you know, I certainly see that point. There are plenty of people I would rather them not get married and just live together or whatever they need to instead of... thinking that marriage was the right thing. And there are several people I can think of that they have been together longer as a couple unmarried than many, many people I know that get married. Yeah. In fact, one I know of recently that was maybe six months and we're already done.

And I'm just like, wow. And it had been together for years before that, but got married six months later. And I'm just like, What is it? What is it about the ceremony, the vows, or just the idea of legally being bound with somebody? Is that enough to screw up the relationship?

Because this happens quite a lot, it seems like, anymore. I agree with him to the point that I don't think the ceremony means anything more than a ceremony. I think if you're committed to somebody, you are committed to somebody, but at the same time, This woman wants to get married and if you love her, that's the giving– how far are you willing to go? Well, grow up, be a man and marry this woman that you care about. She's obviously the best thing going in his life.

Definitely. She's a teacher. She's– in the animation world, fairly attractive, you'd probably think. I think she looks better in the supermodels. Right.

Has her shit together, and, you know, obviously seems like she has a lot more money than he does. Not a lot more, but has some money. Yeah. He's a complete slacker. You know, he has interactions with three... personality offshoots of himself, I suppose.

It's basically like the little devil on your shoulder, but he has three of them. And no angel. He has no angel, he has three devils. And they just sit there going, hey, let's get wasted. Hey, you don't need her, you know.

Drink and smoke and play poker and listen to... Was it the other side of the movie? Yeah, at one point it was that, and then later, I don't even know what they put on. They're just like, yeah, load up some more music. Yeah, that's really all they're worried about is the partying.

So yeah, they're definitely the devil on his shoulder. The dark side of the animals. It's something like that, that it's obvious that he's in an altered state. Yeah, yeah. Again, he's one of those, I just don't like him.

He's just, you know, I like the teacher, but she hardly has a lot of screen time. So, I mean, you're left with him, and they spend a lot of time with him, and I'm just like, I don't like him. I really don't like these little jerks on his shoulder telling him to do stupid things. Yeah, if he told him to fuck off, then it might be a good character. Yeah, by the end, I might like him a little bit.

But no, it kind of goes the other way, whereas he just really, like, he's another one he kind of follows that same, like, lesson of the old man is at some point you have to take initiative in your life and he never does you know he's willing to sit around and get stoned and get drunk and do nothing with his life and to the point of well if you don't take initiative and don't do something with your life and again how the relationships tie in if you don't take action within your relationship you lose the relationship right which he does care about i mean in the end He's really sad. Like, at one point, suicidal. Because he has totally killed this relationship. And it's because he won't take initiative to do something to change it, to save it.

I think he pretty much knows if he just makes a call, he can save it. And he won't even do that. He won't even do that. He's such a slack-ass and just won't take any responsibility for anything that he's willing to just... sit on his ass and watch his relationship dissolve, you know, and completely. We've all been there, so...

I guess. I just don't like this guy. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, obviously these characters are ratcheted up, and everybody's been that, I know I should do this for something, and you don't, and you know that it's slipping, and you don't step in and take action. Yeah.

But again, it'd be different if it was like. bad relationship if it was something slipping and it was one of those well sometimes you do have to let it go that happens we have all been there but with that one it was like this again it's like he does care about her he does love her he's upset when she's leaving it's like what do you what else do you need buddy i mean like the only thing you have to do is stop being an idiot and like just tell her you love her and go get married but no he's he's got to be an idiot and let it all slip. Away so Yeah, I don't like this guy. What bothers me about that, and this isn't just this movie. This is just people in general. It's no big deal to have a child with someone.

But, oh, God, I can't get married. I can't get married. Again, that's... I'll bring someone into this world, but I won't have some ceremony that means nothing to me anyway. Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

So that never matters. sense to me. No. The end-all, be-all should be the life creation to me. To me. So, but hey.

Yeah, whatever. May I? It's very windy in your stairwell. I think I'm getting bronchitis again. Please come in.

Can I get you something warm? Yeah, a 12 ounce medium rare steak with chips and salad. Or a tea. I have Earl Grey, peach, chamomile. Whichever, as long as it's hot.

Are you an angel? No, I'm a giant talking pigeon. So I guess the only other real character left is our homeless man. Which, again, we've thrown out the spoiler, and I mentioned it earlier. After his initial interaction, right off the bat, we lose this character.

And he immediately turns around and comes back with wings. With wings. Other than that, he's not really very holy. No. Well, he never goes.

He says he never actually went to heaven. He just hung around and... didn't want to go it's like he. Didn't yeah he didn't get to go to heaven he got wings and a new perspective i think he's having and. He could give a fuck it's the real thing with him and apparently angels can die as we find out as we find out i don't know i guess after you've died and you've been homeless and you know people don't treat you well i guess you know i don't know what what is the point of being nice i mean maybe maybe you're not supposed to i mean i don't know Um, maybe he's just treating people the way he's been treated. Maybe, but he certainly is somebody I wouldn't want to hang around with for real.

He's another one. And I mean, to, to bring up again, the only thing that kind of ties all these together to me is the relationship thing. We have him interacting with other people. We definitely have a lot of time with him and the old man, but more than anything, much like the father is him and the wife, his wife has been dead for years and he constantly brings her up. He's carrying around a coffee mug that says World's Best Husband with a crack in it, which is.

Really disturbing for some reason. So yeah, he's like at this point a homeless man shuffling around with this cracked World's Best Husband mug, bumming cigarettes off people, trying to get them to buy him coffee, and talking about his dead wife. And it's like it really– that's the only part of it that's kind of sad is when he brings her up, you can still see that's like the only piece of humanity left in him. Before and after he's dead, really. I mean, it's like, that's the only time that he's kind of not a jerk.

It's like the only time you see a little bit of probably what used to be good in him. And it's all tied to that relationship. It's like, that's when he was happy. That's when he had his happiness. And everything since then has sucked, you know?

And it's like, everything has been downhill since then. And maybe it's that same thing. Maybe it's not taking the initiative. Maybe it's not making. The right choices.

Whatever it may be, but. You can definitely see the relationship aspect is pretty heavy in his storyline, even though they don't focus on it. I think it's the one thing that sort of ties it to the rest of this. You know, every person in this movie, which most of them are males, has a lost or meaningless or shitty relationship with a female. Every single one of them.

There's no good male-female relationships in the movie at all. Yeah. What does that say? I don't know. I don't know.

What does that say? And it's directed by a woman? Directed by a woman, but it's written by a man. And what does that say about his... I mean, she came in.

To do part of the screenplay, but still, it's based on his short story. So what does this say about his relationships and his world that. He exists in? Yeah, because none of them are healthy. No.

I mean, either they're healthy or they're failed. They're either past tense, yeah, or they're unhealthy currently. Right. Yeah, there's not really any. You can't move on after, you know, it's the ones that have lost them can't move on after the fact.

And the ones that have them are pissing them away. Right. Or just creepy. It's not an uplifting movie. Not really, no.

Especially with something and an angel in it. You'd expect it to just be cheery and uplifting, but no. Angels and dolphins. It's not. You do get some uplifting moments.

There are. I definitely... I mean, we've kind of hit all the characters. Is there any more on the angel? I mean, there's not much to him.

He's just kind of a jerk. Yeah, he's an ass... Yeah, I don't... If there are angels, I don't want them to be like that. No, not at all.

I mean, the. The most good I could get out of him was the dead wife story. So it's like, other than that, yeah, he's not really likable either. And he was a dick to the mean repossession guy. And actually did a fairly good job of insulting him.

So, you know, but what do you do? And hates menthol cigarettes. Yeah. He says, what? It was just like smoking a stick of gum or something.

That was pretty funny. What does he say? What are you, a woman? Yeah, that was awesome. Like, what an angel.

Oh, man. I think there's that old man. He says something about. cookie or something like that and he tells him to fuck off yeah yeah and i do like the he's sitting around drinking coffee having his cigarette everything that he's wanted he's getting warm and you know everything that he wanted when he was homeless and eating the old man's cookies and he says he says well it sure would be nice if he had donuts instead of these cookies it's like what you don't like him no i don't like him it's a question of volume He's like, do you want me to go get him? No, I'll go get him. Do you have five bucks?

Make it ten, I'll get some cigarettes. And I'm like, everything about him is just pushy and obnoxious. And he says, so you'll be right back then? No, I've got errands to run. I'll be back eventually.

He's just a jack. And I don't think he ever brings the donuts back. No, I don't think so. So, yeah. I mean, as far as, again, I almost want to go with the sort of overall wrap-up of the stories.

Okay. And I mean, I think that's where I have more issues in it. We can go with, because I think the upside of this, and we've had a lot of issues with it, but I think the upside is the animation. Yes. We can go with that in a minute.

I think the downside is the story itself. I think... It doesn't... It's that problem of movies that are short story collections. Yes.

The little vignettes that it always works better when they have a theme and they actually tie into something. Yeah. Like, oh, so what's the point? There's got to be that. Oh.

And I'm trying to decide if these were individual stories that he then put together in this. Because it's based on like a, it just says on his short stories. Right. So I'm like, is this multiple stories that then he's tried to weave together into this one building, you know, where all this takes place? Because I think that's where it lacks.

I think it. It has some, I mean, some of the stuff it does okay, but there's a lot of thoughts that are almost unfinished. Yeah. There's some stories that don't completely make a point that I think they set out to make. Right.

It's like they introduce the idea and then don't finalize it. You know, they don't finish up on it. Or they dwell too long on something that doesn't go anywhere. Yeah, definitely. And I think those things, I think, are what hurt the overall narrative.

Right, right. It's got an interesting arc. It's got good characters along the way, but it does all these other things in the middle that kind of don't pay off at the end and kind of hurt. The overall arc of it all. That said, I mean, I think there's still a lot of interesting stuff going on.

I think there's interesting areas that are explored along the way, but it kind of needs maybe more explanation in some areas, maybe less in others. I mean, yeah, it's not a perfect plot. But it's definitely worth watching. Yeah, no. And the reason why I want to watch things like that is I enjoy good stories alongside animation.

Yeah. Good animation. And it's hard to find something that's, again, it's hard to use the word adult, but that's aimed towards adults that still has a good story. I mean, there's tons of stuff coming out for kids, and it seems like it's actually getting dumber for kids. Right.

If you take out Pixar. Everything else that's getting made most of the time now is getting dumber and dumber. They're aiming towards the younger kids. And then you've got the anime stuff. And that's, again, a very specific thing.

So it's very hard to find something that's animated in any sense. Clay animation, traditional hand-drawn animation that's made for adults. That's about normal adult stories that... is good you know it really is unusual it's like when you suggested i was like i was trying to think of other stuff that's similar and i was like there's not a lot i mean it's a very small group of movies that would fall into this kind of category yeah the one. That i mentioned last time max and mary that's yeah on actually that's a better movie than this i was thinking the the link letter what was the one he did it was the the weird computer animated uh i know they did a scanner darkly after that but what was the first one i'm drawing a blank Waking Life, there we go.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Waking Life. So I was thinking, I mean, that's about the only thing, like, American that still isn't, like, you know, even Pixar is sort of geared towards kids. The stories aren't, but they still market it like it's, you know, it's okay for kids, it's still yeah but there's not much definitely yeah up was definitely adult theme more than kids really wanted it to be probably but yeah it's something we don't get a lot of in this country and not that this is from that's another weird thing is you know the beginning comes up and it's like it's this weird mesh of Israel and Australia and America because both the writer and director are originally from Israel. I think she moved to New York and all the music is done by a guy in New York.

All of the funding, I guess, probably came from Australia. It's set in Australia. The voice actors are in Australia. So it's this weird triangle of crazy. And it's weird that it even makes this much sense because I'm not sure how a guy who's lived, I'm assuming most of his life in Israel is writing stories that take place in Sydney and seem real, you know, and would seem legitimate to people in Sydney watching.

But I guess it does. I mean, it seems like a normal apartment house to me. It doesn't seem that weird, but it's gotta be pretty removed for him because I think he still lives in Israel. So it's, it's a weird mesh of cultures anyway. I don't know.

To me in the end, it's like there are all these things that, I mean, the story with the kid, uh, In the end, I don't feel like it really has a point. It makes that statement, but it's like we almost need a final step. There almost needs to be something else to finalize that story. Or we never even see the dad again, so we don't see how the dad reacts to what he did. We don't see if he ever really teaches him this lesson he set out to teach him when he turned it into an entirely different kind of motivation.

I think, again, I said the old man has a lot of screen time, but I don't think... they develop him enough. Like he, he just, it all of a sudden cuts to the end and he's going off on vacation and he's dancing around and it's wonderful all of a sudden, but it's like. We never had any progression. It's just, The angel bitches at him a lot, and then it's the end of the movie, and he goes off on vacation. Well, he does.

I. Mean, there's one action that he does, you know. But even then, I don't see that that's, like, a progression in his character. It's just a weird action, and then he feels. Bad, and then...

And no one believes him. And then he takes initiative and changes his life, but there's not much progression to it. It's just a lot of the same, and then a wrap-up at the end. Yeah, if it would show an epiphany that he has... not just show the result of that epiphany, then maybe I guess it just, yeah, I think it seemed like it didn't develop him enough. Yeah.

And basically just that whole angel plot. It's like, it's the most exploited. I mean, it's the one they really focus on in the trailer. He's the cover of the movie. It's him.

I mean, they really make use of him as like their theme. But when I think about it, I'm like, what does he do? Like what, what is the, Point of him being there really– He doesn't evolve. He doesn't evolve at all. It's like he has the least purpose of anyone in this movie.

Right. And yet they really market it like it's about him and like everything ties to him. And I'm like, no, really nothing. I mean I guess the old man kind of– or the dad. The dad.

They both interact with him enough that it sort of changes their life in some way, I guess. But that's done by the first scene. And does he really need to be an angel from that point on? No. I mean, you could have had him in just that amazing opening scene.

Right. And left him out of it. And the old man still could have sat there by himself. Or could have met somebody else and. Had a conversation.

It could have been another ranger. It could have been. Or it could have been another character. Right. I mean, really, I don't know that it had to be an angel.

No. You didn't necessarily have to have that weird wrap-up that he has with him. It could have just been him sitting there talking to someone else, and he realizes that he's pissing his life away, basically, and needs to change things to be happy. I don't know. That's what I think the downfall of this movie is, or at least the downside.

Again, I think it's worth watching. I think it's really interesting. It's certainly not perfect. It's got these weird plot holes that I think... leave a lot of loose ends to it, and just don't really, I think, like I said, it just hurts the overall narrative. You know, I mentioned earlier, you know, a short story movie, and this is a completely different movie, but A Christmas Story is, there's, I don't know, six, seven, eight different stories from Gene Shepard's book, or books, different books, that are crammed into that one movie.

You know, the whole thing with Scott Farkas, the whole thing with, The lamp, the whole thing with the basement and the damper. All of those are separate short stories from his book. But they fit into that movie so well. I mean, what I consider to be one of the most impressive movies ever. And I know at this point it's become a joke.

It's cliched. It's 24 hours of it. But I'm like, when you look at that movie, it's amazing. And it really is something that's just interwoven into one story. And at this point, you know.

Those are separate stories, but if you think about trying to take the leg lamp story out of a Christmas story, there's going to be this huge hole there. I mean, it really would feel... Even if you never knew it was there, something about it would be missing. It would be incomplete, it seems like. Where the little orphan Annie and the decoder pin, that has nothing to do with the Christmas story.

No, not at all. Actually, the only... The Red Rider only is the only parts of that movie. And the. Yeah, that...

I can't even remember. It might be the interaction in which the dogs are several different times in the stories. Yeah, that doesn't have to be, no. But, you know, they are the modus of their first time of having something different for Christmas. But it is so well woven together from stories that really, I mean, it's the same family, but they don't, they happen in different times throughout the year, you know.

Yeah, I mean, the other versions are like the Fourth of July story, and like all these other books that take place. And they. took them all and wove them into this one story that's like seamless. Like it really is the way that you should do something like this. And so, yeah, that's what's missing from this is the big, you know, either having one story that they all jump off of or it just doesn't make sense. Or having separate stories that work on their own.

I mean, you can almost have like a Pulp Fiction thing where it's like, you know what? You can watch each of those individually individually. And they work on their own. Right. You can watch it together and they work together where this doesn't work on either end.

It's like individually, they don't really, most of them don't really even make sense. You know, they, they, some of them just stop, you know, other ones it's like, it still would be really unsatisfying if you just watched one of these little plots, you know, but even when you put them all together, it still isn't great. You know, it's, it's good. It's worth watching, but it's not a, Perfect story. It's just not.

One thing I do know, that if we would have watched it as a full group, there would be a lot of people that would say, fuck this movie. Yes, I know. In fact, there's one in particular, I'm not going to name names, I don't think would even sit down and watch it. Well, okay. Which is why I went ahead and said, you know what, let's do it this week.

Yeah. Otherwise, we're never going to get to talk about this movie. So, yeah, no, it's... It's definitely worth watching. It's definitely worth watching if you like animation.

That's what I was going to go into. It's... Tatia Rosenthal is an amazing animator. Like, it's... I mean, that really, to me, is the selling point of this, is the visuals.

Like, it is kind of unbelievable sometimes what she does. I mean, it. Like you said, you forget that it's animated at times. And there's other times when I realize it's animated and I'm still in. Awe of how. this stuff is and how meticulous you must have been to put all this together and the most impressive thing I mean I've seen a lot of you know clay animated stuff and stuff that they've done even stuff like.

The you know like Perry does with the Tim Burton projects it's like those are again meticulously done and really impressive but this one the lighting even in that first scene that first little opening the lighting and the shadows come into play and so much more than anything else I've ever seen. I think, I mean, you really, it's rare, like in the old clay animated stuff that you even notice lighting at all. Right. And even in the newer stuff, it's usually so technically advanced, you know, like you don't look at the Tim Burton movies and it's like, if they need to make use of it, they will. But for the most part, you don't even notice it because there's almost so well lit and so placed everywhere that you don't even notice lighting and shadows unless it's a very specific thing that they need to work in.

But with this one, I mean, it's like, that first scene, there's a sun in the sky. Like, you feel that there's a sun off, you know, to the left hand of the screen. Right. And you see the shadows coming down, and you see people in shadows, and you see half-lit faces, and, like, a lot of just really complex lighting situations for something that's not real. More than that, too, just camera angle.

Yeah. One scene, you know, in most clay animations, they're going to show you one basic... side that they're shooting from you know that fourth wall point this you're seeing from the back you're seeing from a low angle from a high angle from like i said just in the one scene yeah um i remember times in the movie where you're in a living room and you're seeing it from one angle then it switches and you're all of a sudden in the bookcase looking at the scene like the detail that you have to put into that is is fantastic I mean, if nothing else, even if you've made it this far and you're like, I don't even think I want to watch this movie. If it's still on instant view, go watch that opening scene.

Yeah. Go watch at least up until the credits and be like, you know, if you're impressed with that. Again, it's worth watching just for the animation alone. And the detail in the painting on the faces. it's not just the shape of the faces and what they're doing and where the eyes are going and what movements the faces make but the faces are painted and the color that comes through with emotion and what's going on you know I can't fathom the amount of time it took. I don't know how you got a 120-minute movie.

I don't have that kind of time. I just don't have it. It's very impressive. Some of the ones that are most impressive to me are the city shots. The little close room sets, I can almost understand.

They do it a couple times in the movie where they do this big pullback shot of the city and they have all the lights coming on at different times and they show the city light up and they show it become morning and they show cars driving by and it's got this weird movement to it that I'm almost like, it almost looks real. Like there's some of those shots and I'm like, did they just cut to a scene of like a city? And I'm like, squint your eyes. You can kind of think it. And then I see a car drive and it's doing kind of the weird clay animation movement.

And I'm like, holy shit. No, this is a, I'm like, they animated all of this. It's, It's amazing to look at. I think she is ridiculously talented. And again, I think she's the amazing part of this movie.

I think she's what I want to go watch. I know she's done at least two other shorts. And I'm hoping they give her money to do more full length features. Because if she found a different writer... Because this was all based on his stories.

And then I think they worked together to do the screenplay. But I think if she could get away from his stories... And find a more... Again, she lives in New York. I mean, go with a very traditional, like, normal story that doesn't have.

I don't know. I'm not sure what he was doing with his characters and themes. The weird angles on... It's almost intentionally quirky. Yeah.

Yeah. There's times when it feels like it's... Again, it's heavy-handed. I mean, you bring an angel into it. You bring little guys talking on your shoulder.

You bring moving beanbag chair men. I mean, it knows that it's being weird. And I think, again, that's almost... A deterrent for a lot of people is this feels very arthouse-y. Yeah.

This is very indie, artsy kind of like if you're into this stuff, you're going to think it's genius. But for a lot of regular people, they would watch that trailer and go, I'm not watching that. Right. And I– again, half the crew here are those people and I understand that and– I think, again, they would be impressed with the animation, but probably would not have the patience to sit and watch these stories and watch these characters, which are... And invest.

Yeah, invest that much time in people that aren't really likable, in stories that don't necessarily go where they need to go. So it almost suffers from trying to be too artsy at times, and again, I think a lot of that is the writing. I think, you know, I think direction-wise, she does an amazing job, and I'd really like to see more of her and what she could do With a different script. Yeah. I don't know.

That's pretty much it. Yeah. That's... I mean, we've probably talked about the movie longer than the movie is. Probably.

Which we usually do. I mean, in the end, I think that was my thing. I mean, in trying to piece it together, it's, you know, the meaning of life angle. And if it has anything, I mean, it doesn't give you an answer. It doesn't even give you six answers, like the book says.

The best I can come up with is the relationship angle. That, you know, that interacting with other people... can lead you to happiness. Um, and the actions you take either keep these relationships and keep it going and keep you on the path you need to be, or it can totally. Scrub your relationship and, and kind of rob you of this happiness. I mean, it, I think on the one hand it's, it's showing you that you have to, you know, take initiative and, and like appreciate the people in your life and appreciate the relationships that are there.

And, When you stop and appreciate those, that is the happiness. Like that's what you're looking for more or less. Or you could just look at the whole thing and say this book was $ 9. 99 they were charging for the meaning of life. And the company went out of business.

That's a fun little angle, too. Maybe it's full of shit. Maybe the whole thing's full of shit. There's part of that. I think the angle of it is the bullshit.

It's kind of them selling this nonsense. And everything the kid's spouting does sound like bullshit. We're like, no, keep talking because I want to hear this nonsense. And he never really gets to give you all the details of the book. But it does sound like a scam pamphlet.

It sounds like they're selling you something And it costs $ 9. 99. Just like swimming like a dolphin. I think that end of it is kind of bullshit, and they're calling it as that. I think the reality.

Of it is more of the watching the whole thing unfold, and that's what you can take from it. If you stop and... And I think that's what it is by the end of the movie. It's like, if you want to get to the weird dolphin wrap-up, I mean, we get back to the father and son, and. That's the thing.

I mean, he's reading this stupid book about, you know, the meaning of life this whole time and nothing happens and they're not happy. He doesn't pay any attention to that stupid book and actually just sits down and spends time with his dad and they're swimming in the lake in the end and that's the only time either of them seem happy. Happy, yeah. Granted, it's weird dolphin swimming from another book that he got from this company and they're leaping out of. The water like dolphins.

Right. Again... That's the weird angle of this movie. That's the artsy, look, we're going to do something quirky and weird. I'm sure there's something, if I had more intellect, we could probably go, oh, see, this is what real, no.

I just figured he was ripping off Douglas Adams. There you go. It's all so long, and thanks for all the fish. That's all I have to say. The real secret to life is 42.

That's right. The answer to everything. Screw this Edgar Currit guy that wrote this story. Douglas Adams. Go read some Douglas Adams.

You want to read a real story. But yeah, I think that's really the only thing you can take from it is that thematically the only thing you really get out of it for me is awesome animation. Awesome animation. And a very poignant first scene. Yeah.

Very poignant. Yeah, that opening scene is amazing. Yeah. And that is almost well written and works as its own little thing. They kind of need to stop there, you know?

When they cut back and he's looking at himself in the mirror, that's like, wow. Yeah. That's a good. It's a good intro to a movie, and I wish there was a better movie to follow it up with. If the whole movie were as good as that...

As good as that. This would be... It would be amazing. Yeah. This would be...

We would be screaming at everyone. Yeah. So. In this case, no. Not so much.

Again, for the animation, watch it. But if you've listened this long, though, you need to watch it. You know going in that you're going to have some issues with the story along the way. Or at least we did. You watch it and make up your mind.

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Don't want it, I gotta. All right, we are back. Woo, good break. Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins. Am I supposed to do the little, okay, sorry.

You've been here before, you know it. But I'm just not good at sound effects. You can, uh, humming? Bring a kazoo next time? There we go.

There we go. That was something. Set your pins to V2. Here is the message. It is time for the Movie Lockdown Secret Circle reveal of the next two features.

Yes, we actually know... Wait, what was that? That ride two weeks. Yep, Roger, if you were here, you would be saying that. He's still M.I.A.

So, yeah, for once, we actually know, not only, you know, usually I'm just throwing out a general idea because I'm not pinning it down, but. We actually know next week and the next week after that. So the next week, we will return to our not completely forgotten, but infrequently visited, the really real world, our series on documentaries. And we're actually going to be watching the ever popular these days, the quite talked about Exit Through the Gift Shop. It will be another caffeinated movie geek gathering where we will get hammered on coffee and discuss film and art and God knows what else by the time we're done.

This one is more of that art film. It's definitely but that one I mean I think more so like today was artsy and like trying to be artsy and almost excluding regular people from it. I think what we'll find you know with next week with Exit Through the Gift Shop is it comes off like it's super artsy and it comes off like It's almost like just geared towards a very specific crowd. But if you watch it, it's way more crowd-pleasing and opens itself up to a lot more of a mainstream audience than I think even they would realize. I think a lot more people than would have watched a documentary about artists would have ever watched ended up watching this movie.

And it may just be the Banksy angle, but... Whatever it is. He's an interesting character. I mean, he's an interesting character, and we get into several other interesting characters in this. So, I mean, I think it's definitely something that's opened up itself to a.

Lot more people than it ever probably would have under different circumstances. So I think that's kind of the good end of something being artsy. Today, at least story-wise, it's trying a little too hard to be artsy. Almost in the wrong direction. Again, awesome animations.

There you go. So that will be next week. The following week is the infamous Oscar Mayer party. Oh, and yeah, I mean, not only is it the Oscar party, but it's going to be Oscar Meltdown 3D. 3D, okay.

This is the, you know, well, I mean. We had. Our third installment. Yeah, we had Oscar Meltdown 2 Electric Booger. Electric Booger.

So with any third installment, you have to go 3D. So go to your local convenience store and get your Oscar Meltdown 3D glasses. Right. They'll be there. Just ask for them.

The red and green ones. Red and green ones. Yeah, I don't want none of. This bullshit plastic sunglass looking. No, I want cardboard, red and green plastic.

The ones that irritate your face. Just, yeah. Go ask for them at your local convenience store. They'll have them. 7-Eleven carries them.

Definitely. Definitely. Any of your quickie marts in your town. I'm sure. Just go.

I think they come free with a big gold, right? A big gold. A 12-pack of Pepsi. Oh. So, yeah.

We're going to do the monumental third installment of Oscar Meltdown. Oscar Meltdown 3D. And, as usual, we'll be discussing the film. And this time around, we will be discussing... A film from this year's winner of the Irving G.

Thalbert Award, Mr. Francis Ford Coppola. And in our usual Oscar meltdown fashion, do we ever do things, you know, are we going to watch one of his Oscar-nominated films? No. No, of course not.

We're going to watch one of his first films, Dementia 13. Oh, wow. It's one of those I don't know if I've watched in its entirety. I've had it on my list of I need to get around to watch that Just because, you know, it's Coppola. It's an old Roger Corman movie.

So it's like, I feel like it's, yeah, it's Corman going, okay, I'll let you direct this. And he gets his foot in the door and then he makes Godfather. So, you know, it's like you got to pay tribute to how it began. And we're going to do that. So we're going to go back and watch Dementia 13.

Anything else we need to watch? I thought we were going to watch Leonard Part 6. Oh. Just be glad we're not watching Jack. Could have made you guys watch Jack.

It was terrible. Yeah. I don't know what the hell. Happened to Coppola in that part of his life. Yeah.

Anything else you need to round out this episode? No, I don't think so. All right. I'm good. Just remember, the key to happiness is, you know, $ 9.

99 and we can take it off and we can take care of it. $ 9. 99. $ 9. 99 and we will take care of all your problems. The secret to life itself. Give the bum the cigarette and a dollar for some coffee.

Or else. That's the meaning of life. As you learn in that first scene. Or else. Just give them the money and leave.

Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening. What's the meaning?

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Do you know the meaning? Do you know the meaning of life? The power of life. You know what this book is? Fuck off.

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