129: Freaks and Fine Art

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That's true. I mention Netflix every week. Apparently, it just occurred to me, I'm turned into Steve Zahn's publicist. It comes up somehow every week. Every week, it's something.

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They got an awful. Lot of coffee in Brazil. What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Greg.

I'm Fred. And today we have with us a special guest, someone I've been trying to scam into doing this for quite a while now, and today's the first time he had nothing better to do, I suppose. We can welcome Matt to the show. Hello. You don't want to go by any of their special street names.

Matt works. Okay. Matt works. The guy that works with Brian. They don't know that.

On this show, this is my job. Brian's a professional podcaster, right? Movie talkerer. So, yes, it is time once again for another episode of the Caffeinated Movie Geek. Cappuccino on my butt.

I still drink coffee. The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee. It's time for Decaffeinated Movie Geek. We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's Bagel Grounds. And we'll get together, drink coffee, talk movies, and probably offend some people.

So, once again, our friends at Columbia River Coffee have provided this coffee. And, Greg, since Marlena's not here, I said before, you've become the fallback. You're like the bench version of our spokesmodel. So, Greg, I ask you, what blend of coffee are we drinking this week? Fishers and Fallers.

Ah, I see. And this is a new one for you. And delicious. It is. It is quite good.

All right, so with that... I was doing hand motions when I introduced... I would hope so, as any good spokesmodel should do. I still do hand motions. Those aren't hand motions.

That's just an inappropriate movement with your hand. Please stop that. Good thing it's all mint. I just thought people would want to know. Yeah, it wasn't meant to be an all-men podcast this week.

Marlena was going to be here and had to work, and I actually only threw the invite out to three people. Matt showed up. The other two were both women, actually, and they just obviously had better things to do. Glad I was high on your list, but hey, I'll take it. Out of all of the world, there were only three people I asked.

Now think about that. I accept it. Are we going, since it's all males, are we going to review truck stop women today? I don't know. He's still making hand motions.

His hands are under the table. I think he just finished watching truck stop. Really, I don't think it would matter. Have you been around the women on our show? You're right.

They probably enjoy that. Usually the ones that are more offensive and more misogynist are the women on our show. You're right. So, yeah, I really don't think we have to dial it back anything, regardless of whether they're here. Wasn't Marlena the one that said that the prostitute that got beat up by the ShamWow guy deserved it?

She was asking for it. She was asking for it, so yeah. That's just one of many lovely, lovely things we've said on our show. It's our crew. You've got to love them.

So with that, we will roll on into this week's geek activities, I suppose. For mine, I watched one this morning. And again, trying to upload the last episode because the internet was fighting me. I don't know what it was doing, but it took like an extra day just to finish getting all our rambling pieced into one thing. And then get it uploaded.

So while I was doing that, I was trying to find something useful to watch. And I came across one that seemed like it wouldn't involve too much thought. And if anything, Greg, you'll probably think I'm doing research. It was entitled, The 50 Worst Movies Ever Made. Ah, I've seen this.

On our ever-plugged Netflix? Yes, I've seen this one. I was just scrolling past, and I was like, ah. Damn it. All right.

I don't agree with the list, but. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was like, you know, actually. Again, it's one of those like that... I've never thought you could pin that kind of stuff down.

You know, it's like. What you think is bad is not the same thing what other people are going to think is bad. What a lot of people think is bad is usually what I go looking for in a movie. Or sometimes there's an entirely separate list that that will be placed very high on. So, yeah, I disagree with...

A lot of them are very expected. I mean, Ed Wood's on there at least three times. I mean, like, well, big surprise. And to me, that's an entirely different category of, like, awesome and bad. But, yeah, this.

So it's interesting, I guess... It's not really a documentary as much as it is a list that they read. Right. And they show clips from sometimes more lengthy than others. Sometimes it's like a good, you know, five minutes on this movie.

Other times it's like 38 seconds, and they're like, all. Right, next. So, yeah, it's all right. I won't say it's great. It's pretty low budget, I'd say, because there's just voiceover and scenes.

It's done almost VH1 style list, only without all the personality. Right. It's just a guy reading some names and making a few snide comments. And canned clapping and canned laughter. And throwing food at the screen, which is funny the first time, but by the 50th time, you're kind of over it.

I know there are. At least 10 Mystery Science Theater movies that should have made that list. You know, things like Howard the Duck. Granted, it's not a great movie. But it shouldn't be, I think it was like number eight or somewhere in there.

I thought it was pretty low on the list. Or was it? Okay, maybe I'm wrong. I'm quite fond of Power of the Duck, actually. I was until we went back and re-watched it for the show.

I haven't seen it since USA's up all night. But back then it held my attention. For many a times, I guess. I've watched it more than once. That was the thing.

I loved that movie to death when I was a kid, and I had not watched it in years until we went back and did our whole episode on it. And I went, wow, you know what everybody said about this movie? They were kind of right. It's got its moments that I still enjoy, Leah Thompson, but so much of it is still just really bad, like they've said for years now. So what are you going to do?

I've heard some discussions of just what was the worst movie ever made. Yeah? I wonder if those would come up. Like, Myra Breckenridge was one theory of the worst. It's based on a Gore Vidal book.

Raquel Welch gets a sex change operation and a sex change operation back. But I don't know about the worst movie ever made, but. Gore Vidal said it was the first case where A movie was based on a book, and after the movie came. Out, sales of the book stopped. Wow.

He said he never saw another residual after the movie came out. Wow. Nice work. Yeah. Once you've seen Raquel Welch, there's no reason to.

Right. At least you've got Raquel Welch. Your imagination's not going to be better than that. There's so many. To me, there were so many on that list that I had not heard of and thought.

That looks great, in my mind. I was like, there's that level of it's so bad, I guess that bell curve, that it has to be good. And so, well, like Ed Wood, there are so many people that can sit down and appreciate an Ed Wood movie. As well you should. And have a great time.

And no, it should not be on that list, according to those qualifications. Whereas. According to our qualifications. According to our qualifications. But, you know, there are several. mainstream big movies that i couldn't sit through yeah so smoking.

A movie has to be good enough to be like really bad you. Have to like be involved enough to if it's just like really bad then it doesn't. Even rank it's mediocre it doesn't count that was the sad part I was going through going oh maybe there will be a lot of them I haven't heard no I was going through out of 50 and I was like I'm not claiming I've seen them all I've seen a good amount a lot of them were the 80s ones I have to say but yeah there was there were maybe two or three that I hadn't heard of right But the really scary part is I wrote those down. So live in fear because you know they're going on the list now. Right.

Is Smokey and the Bandit on the list? That's a movie I recently watched where, well, actually I started to watch three. It was like Burt Reynolds and Sally, is it Struthers? No. Fields.

Sally Fields. Sally Fields. Which is why number one's a good movie because she's adorable. In that too. You don't get that in the third one, which the third one was actually on the list.

Was it? The second one with the elephant could make the list as well. Is there some movie going around now that's like one of the worst movies? Gnomes? Is it Gnomes?

No, it's Troll 2. Troll 2. It's the worst movie. Yeah, Troll 2. Yeah, and it's pretty epic in its ridiculousness.

When people go out and see it in late night theaters and fill the auditorium, You cannot put it in. As the worst movie of all time. Well, what's weird is that it wasn't even on that list. Right. Troll was.

Right. Which Troll was like nothing compared to Troll 2, but Troll was on there at the bottom of the list. I was like, there's a lot of worse movies than Troll. Troll's just a bad horror movie. I think sometimes it's the setup for expectation.

For me, Godfather. 3... Right. I'm with you there. Godfather 3.

I am with you. You got the one-two punch of one and two. I'm still waiting for somebody to say, we're going to make Godfather 3 like that never happened. We need a reboot. Well, then does it qualify as the most disappointing?

Is that what makes it that? Yeah, because if a movie is just really terrible from the beginning, I'm probably not going to even see the rest of it. It's just let's not just change the channel or something. Phantom Menace I would put on that list the biggest disappointment that just that took my childhood and beat it. And there was so much build up like even if It would just come out of nowhere.

You'd be like, if there would have been like a weekend of, wow, this new movie, let's go see it. But it was how many years of, okay, he's working on it. Okay, he's probably going to make it. And then like when people were paying multiple ticket prices to go see that trailer when it opened. I mean, that's how you know the anticipation was kind of out of hand at that point.

Well, that they could make a movie about a kid dying of cancer and his– drive across the country to go see it, to see the release of it. That shows you how big of it, and that's how big it was. I would have, you know, as a young person before that came out, I would have, yeah, if I knew that I was dying, I would have found it, and then I would have found a way to stay alive. To beat him. Beat him with a stuffed Jar Jar.

My last wish is that somebody go kick this guy's ass for me. The make-a-wish make-a-wish foundation just getting like a couple of pro wrestlers to volunteer. I'll do it okay i'll take that that's awesome. I'm gonna get a turn on let's just i want you to. Kick his ass then i want you to reenact kicking his ass one of my favorite king of the hill lines I'm going to kick your ass and then I'm going to reenact kicking your.

Ass. Nice. I think the best thing that's come out of this little quote unquote documentary is the fact that I think that needs to be a future grind topic. What's the worst movie? And then just spin an episode.

Everybody bring their own list. Everybody bring their own. We can have people write in. We can come up with just criteria of what makes it in there or what falls into different categories. So yeah, I think that's We're throwing that on the list.

That's what I think. Yeah, it's kind of worth a watch. I think the best thing about it is it's only an hour long, so you don't invest any more than that. You might see one or two you haven't seen before. The one that I still haven't seen that's on that list, and I think you've even done a promo for it on this show, is the thing with the two heads.

Oh, yeah. That looks like one of the best... bad movies i've ever. Seen yeah i mean how can you think that's bad like a regular bad movie i mean these two guys are jammed next to each other pretending they're in one of just the the special effect alone is enough to watch it for an hour and a half and it's. It's literally like a shirt with the guy standing behind him shoving his head through and it wasn't like a gangster it's like a white dude. It's a it's a racist little white dude and like a young black guy and then he grabs his head onto the side of his head and yeah.

That's a classic yeah yeah they put that as in the top it was in the top 10 it was yeah i think it's top five yeah it was way up there i'm like i don't know this i mean who doesn't want to see this come on so yeah it's it's a little be. A sitcom it's a great setup it. Should Ed Asner and Michael Clark Duncan. I'd watch that every week. Tebow, that shit.

Alright, so yeah. Moving on. I was thinking the only other thing that seems like I've watched lately that I haven't talked about. I did go back and watch Bitch Slap. Yeah, which if you're yeah, if you're a longtime listener, you'll know we didn't.

Well, I did an entire show about it, but not like a discussing the movie. I did an interview segment with two out of three of the main stars. And that gets into like a weird area of like and that's why I usually don't like, you know, want to talk to people and then turn around and be like, oh, and here's what I think of the movie. Usually it's very separate modes, and I feel like you can kind of do that. It's like that was well before the movie came out, and it was just talking to them about the making of, and I kind of like that as sort of its own thing.

I'm kind of glad to do that as its own separate thing versus us yammering on about movies, which is an entirely different type of show. So I kind of like doing that because you also got a lot of behind-the-scenes stories that, you know, watching the movie, you get a whole new appreciation for, actually, so... Yeah, it was different going back and watching and having gone through that a couple of years ago. But it's interesting. Finally, I sort of put it off for a long time, kind of because of that.

Because I was a little... In the beginning, I was almost too close to that. And I was like, all right, now I've talked to two of the three of them. Maybe I'll just leave it alone for a while. So I finally was like, all right, it's on that thing that we keep mentioning.

I can watch it for free. I'll sit here and watch it. So, yeah, I... I have my issues with it. We'll put it that way.

Yep. The thing is, there's actually a lot of good stuff in there. It's a weird mixture of a movie. I don't even know this movie. What's the plot of this movie?

You can't really say the plot. Well, okay, here's basically the plot. And this is how I know, like, I know this movie's in trouble when I have a problem with it because it's basically Faster Pussycat Kill Kill, only a little different. But, I mean, there's definitely... drawing so heavily. I mean, it opens up with three chicks getting out of a cool car and it focuses on their boobs for most of the movie.

I'm just like, how can you not? And even they don't. I mean, they freely admit that they're totally inspired by Russ Meyer and they're inspired by all these old exploitation movies. So, I mean, it's very much trying to be those. It's seeking that out, really.

So, I mean, you give them a little license because of that, because they're trying to do that. So it is sort of the same thing they were doing with Machete or any of these other really heavy, trying-to-be-an-exploitation-movie kind of thing. It almost wasn't exploitation enough. Not that. It was.

It was like the wrong kind of exploitation. It seems like to me. Because it was inspired by. What did you say? To me, I mean, it's inspired by a lot of them, but it's very heavily Faster Pussycat Kill Kill.

I mean, it's three girls in the desert. But that was largely inspired by boobs, and you have to stick. With the. Original source of inspiration. And they do not stray.

That's my guess. It's guns and boobs and violence. If you're not inspired by boobs, there's something wrong. Right. Which, on that aspect, the movie's just fine.

Oh. In fact, it's very impressive, let's say. I said correctly. Making hand gestures. That's probably where a lot of people.

I can't believe I haven't heard of this movie. Yeah, and I'm sitting here like, boobs, guns, everything I want. And that's the thing, going into it, I'm listening to them do the pitch, I'm watching the trailer, and I'm like, this is awesome. How can there be anything wrong with this? And then I finally get there two years later, and I'm just like, well, okay, there is some stuff wrong with it.

You want it to be fun. Yeah, and you're like, oh, I see where they're going with this. And I see where they went wrong, kind of, in a way. I mean, the stuff I will say that is good was I like the women involved. If anybody suffers, it's America Olivo has the worst dialogue and the worst character, really.

So, I mean, it's not her fault. She does what she can. But Aaron Cummings, uh, I talked to her, she's ridiculously smart. And like, you can tell, like, she's just, she's kind of really interesting to watch and she does a good amount with, I mean, again, her role is, is a little more interesting. And Marika is just there to be a dog in a chain waiting to attack you.

And that's all she is. She has nothing else to offer, but, but, Erin Cummings' character has a little more and she makes use of it. I think she's actually a really good actress and has since then gone on. She's in Spartacus, Blood and Sand. She's in Mad Men now.

So it's like she... I do want to see where she goes because I think she is... Not only, if you watch it, she's very attractive, but yeah, talking to her, she's like ridiculously smart. So it's like I kind of hope she ends up in better projects and even those are huge now. So I mean, if they...

Stick with that kind of stuff and move more into just better property. The one that almost makes it worth watching for me is Julia Voth, the stripper with the heart of gold. And she's the one I didn't talk to, but it's like, damn, why didn't I talk to her? She comes off amazing in there. Like, really, as much as there is working against her.

She comes off like fucking... She is. They have these shots where there's just light emanating from her, and she comes off that well. It's like she is ridiculously adorable. She's also just like her character is the likable one, and she makes it work.

And by the end, they kind of do some interesting stuff with her. So, I mean, it's like she... should have gotten drugged down more than she was. She just is so damn likable in this movie that had this been a bigger property, this probably would have broke her. Like, I mean, I. Cannot imagine her not being a huge star if more people would have seen her pull off, you know, this kind of performance in a movie that would have gone over a little better.

But yeah, she's pretty amazing for what she has to do. I mean, all she has to do is be cute and wear a gold dress that's ridiculously tight. So, you know, I mean, there's a level where she could just be pulling off on that alone. But she brings a little more to that. I think there's something to her that I hope ends up in better projects once again.

I think I was looking at her list and I don't see anything else even since then that's something recognizable or a big project. So I really hope she ends up in something bigger. Just as geek cred, though, for the super hardcore geeks out there, it is interesting to know she is the model for Jill Valentine in Resident Evil. Originally, they scanned her, and she was what became, in the game, Jill Valentine. So, kind of interesting from a geek perspective.

Yeah, no kidding. Other than that, yeah, it's just... The story itself is a pretty cool idea, but it's just... it suffers so much from the dialogue. The dialogue is so bad, especially everything Amarika has to say. It's just, they, they like go out of her way to give her the worst lines ever.

It's, uh, I don't know. They're just trying way too hard to be like, I mean, it's like unrealistically obscene. Like the, you know, the kind of stuff that's, you know, I have no problem with obscenity or things being offensive. Obviously I'm on this show, but, It's like, it's so forced that it's cringeworthy. It's like they're trying so hard to be offensive.

Yeah, it's like they're just, it's trying so hard to push that down your throat that I think it takes away from the things that are good in it. And there is some good stuff. Not the weird CGI effects. I don't know what they were thinking. I mean, most of it actually takes place out in the desert and the shots look good there.

But they do these cutaways, little plot lines that are in completely and obviously in front of a green screen everything is in front of a green screen and it looks so fake i mean and and as i watched it i was like this is kind of like if uh sucker punch had been made for like 40 bucks because i mean it's it's almost the same thing it's all about hot girls and violence and then they fall into these little cutaway scenes and it goes completely into a cg world and it's like it's follows sort of a lot of similarities there but Here, it's very obvious that it was green-screened and it looks silly. Again, I don't know why they would even... I mean, if you can't afford to do super killer green-screen stuff, just write your scene somewhere you can go.

It's like, I don't know why they couldn't have done a lot of those on a location or a soundstage or something that just looked better. I don't know. It actually doesn't look bad. I think the director is Rick Jacobson, and The unfortunate part is he's also the co-writer. But as far as visuals, I think it looks okay.

I think it's... But you can see he's got sort of a theme. When I went back to see what else he'd done, and it's a lot of... Well, he actually moved on. He's doing Spartacus, Blood, and Sand, which is actually a step up from what I hear on this one.

But if you go back and look at it, it's mostly TV work, and it's She Spies, Baywatch, La Femme Nikita, Cleopatra 2525, Xena. Do you see a pattern here? He likes his scantily clad ass-kicking chicks. There's nothing wrong with that. No, but that's the thing.

Most of these other ones are still, like, a little above, you know? It's like, Xena episodes were a little smarter than this entire movie. And that's, you know, as entertaining as Xena was, he didn't really go for the plot, usually. So, no offense. I like Xena, you know, probably more than I should, but...

I mean, it had those tie-ins. You had cameos from just about everybody in Xena. It had all this other cool tie-ins to this other stuff. And the fight scenes are awesome, thanks to Zoe Bell. Zoe Bell's awesome.

She's got a little cameo in it. You can see, I mean, they put together one of the longest... I think their billing was the longest chick fight scene ever in cinematic history. And it is. It goes on forever.

But it's like everything else in the movie. It just becomes gratuitous. And it's just... I know it's supposed to be grindhouse and it's supposed to be exploitation, but it's just a little off. Whatever it's trying to do, it's just a little off.

I don't know. I can't say I love it as a whole, but I like some of its parts, and you can take that as the innuendo if you want, because if you watch the movie, yeah, they glorify those parts really well. It's a very mixed bag. So, that's what I've watched lately. Greg?

It's my turn? That's both. I watched, this week, I watched the movie Black Death. Ah, I've heard of it. Yeah, it's Boromir, basically, I think he's still, it's the same, it's probably his same outfit.

I think they probably asked for him to just bring that back from Lord of the Rings. Sean Bean, the actor, the one that dies in the first one. And then the other main actor is Eddie Redmayne. The thing that I know him from is the Pillars of. The Earth.

Miniseries. He's the architect's son or adopted son, whatever he is. This is about the. Bubonic plague has broken out and the church sends out a death squad because there's one village that hasn't been touched by it yet. Yeah.

And they believe that there's a witch there who is a necromancer. And that that's why they're... It's all about that religious fear. And they play on it well. She plays on it well.

She almost does it intentionally. And so these guys are mercenaries and badasses. And Ed Redmayne is a monk that is from that area. and he's already struggling with secular life versus monastic life kind of thing. It's, it's got a lot of, you know, religious ideas to it and a lot of, a lot of stuff that it brings up. It's shot really well.

Um, the feel is very, um, you know, ominous and just, I'm sure exactly how it felt at the time. Just, you have no options. You're going to die. Everybody else, everybody in your family is probably going to die. You can turn to the church or you can turn to witchcraft or, you know, whatever for solace.

And it's not, it's probably not going to help. They do a good job of, you know, playing off of what's real and what's not. And, and, uh, paranoia. Yeah. It's, especially if you like, you know, swords and badasses and that, that sort of thing.

It's, it's that kind of movie. It, It leaves you feeling almost helpless, though, because no one's painted in a good picture, obviously. You know, are the heroes really the heroes? That kind of a film. These were dark times.

Right. And it's fun to watch. The acting, especially the Eddie Redmayne, he goes through a lot of transitions and does a pretty good job with it. Yeah, it's a fun watch. So.

If you like people dying. If you like people dying, yeah, you know. You had me, but you didn't mention boobs. There are no boobs in it. No boobs.

They're rotting and falling off, but they're there. There is, you know, chicks coming out of the ground, you know, dressed in white. Those Ghost boots? They're not even ghost boots. You don't get to see anything like that.

You know, if it weren't for the violence, it would probably be a PG-13 or less. Yeah. Other than it's just such a heavy movie. There's no gratuitous... sexuality at all. Never mind.

Right, never mind. Yeah, I mean, this is a testosterone-filled episode. Why are we talking about it, right? I can't think of anything else. This is a short week for me, so I can't think of anything else that I've seen or done lately that.

Has any relevance. It's a good watch. It is available for you to watch for free. On that thing. On that thing.

It's not promoting us, but yeah, we mention them everywhere. Yeah, we don't promote it. Look, I'm poor, so I'm not going to go rent a movie. Me too. So, There's several things in the theater right now I'd like to see.

Right. But they're not free. Right. Which is why I watched that this morning. I can't justify, yeah, I can't justify renting when I've got it all ready for free.

So, I'll defer to Fred. Oh. That's right. I'm here. I forgot.

Yes. Yeah. Well, I had kind of a short week too. Not a lot going on. I got like really disoriented.

I went traveling and came back and then sort of had lost the thread of my life. Do you want to tell people? I don't know if we mentioned on the show where you were going. You went twice a trip. Yeah, I went to Florence with my daughter.

She was just going to go. My sister was teaching there and my daughter was going to go visit. But then my wife was a little concerned about her traveling alone. I'm like, she can track. She would have been fine.

But then my aunt wanted to go visit my sister. And so my wife felt like Oh, well, she can look after her, you know. But no, once my aunt was gone, I knew I had to go. Because I didn't want my daughter to have to take care of my aunt. Which, you know, was so true.

My aunt went over there. She had no money. She brought her checkbook. They won't even take your check at the quickie mart down the street. I know.

And, you know, Italy in particular has its own banking system that And you just couldn't explain it to her. I had told her and told her, you know, call your visa, you know, and tell them you're going to be traveling. She didn't. So it was just the whole thing. I think I maybe slept three to four hours the entire week.

Or ten days we were there. It was exhausting. But it was great, you know. And my aunt, you know, she had trouble getting around. And it's a walking situation.

You know, and. So we did that, and the whole time, like on the way there, like the night before on the plane, I thought it would be a good time for my daughter to see Bicycle. Thief, which is a. Movie I like a lot. Some people call it Bicycle Thieves.

They argue about the title. We never got to do that. We just never found time. And then I get there, and my sister has it. Because she's teaching, and she teaches film and fiction is one of her classes.

So she's got that, and we get into an argument about it, sort of, because she's like, yeah, it's not really one of the better movies of that. I really like it. I said, well, wait a minute. I like it because I like, you know, a lot of my favorite movies wind up being movies that have kids in them because there's just something really poignant to me about the way kids are born into the world and have to make themselves at home, whatever craziness is going on. And there's always something and they deal with it.

And I just, she's like, nah, I think kids are resilient. So you don't really care what happens to them. They'll get over it. I'm like, well, I guess you've got a point there. Um, it sounds like most of our staff sounds like our attitude toward children on this show.

Yeah. And you know, I can, No, seriously, I see she has a point. She wanted us to watch Il Posto, which we never got around to because we didn't do anything except eat and walk around and eat more. It is Italy. Yeah.

Oh, and right before I left, I watched The American. Which was kind of a tie-in. Yeah, kind of a tie-in. I was disappointed in it. It was not thriller enough, a little too intellectual.

And I didn't really buy the intellectual part of it. It just didn't add up. It had one of those things like in Dostoevsky that I've never liked, this pairing of the killer with the hooker with a heart of gold. It's like, what kind of a pendant pair is that? Because her crime is nothing compared to his.

I mean, what sort of situation. Are you like? On the one hand, the killer. A guy. Who kills people for money.

And a woman who has sex with people for money. The money. That's the tie-in right there. Well, I guess. And also, just now, whenever I watch George Clooney, I'm always worried about his back.

I heard he had that back injury. I'm like, looks like he's walking funny. Is he okay? You're screaming at the screen. Don't lift that.

Don't. With your knees. No. With your knees. So then I get back and try to remember where I left off.

And we watch. Il Posto, which is about a young guy who gets a job. He's a really cute guy. He looks a little. Like young Bob Dylan.

In places he has sort of the same gestures and um I I'm sort of doing them so you can see still. Has one hand under the table yeah well you know Dylan. But that was that was a really good movie it's definitely worth seeing and it's just what it is you know you watch this kid get a job and and then he didn't really quite get the job but they've got one so he'll be a messenger for a while and then he'll get the job and uh And it just plays out over those very, you know, very acutely observed scenes. So that's definitely something I'd recommend. I'd never seen it before.

And on the plane I saw an episode, they had one episode of Boardwalk Empire. I've heard really good things. Which, you know, it was out of context. It wasn't the pilot. I didn't really know what was going on, but I'd watch it just for the look and feel of it.

Just, you know, you can tell it's got so much talent in it. Anything with pissy. Yeah. Yeah, then there was, let's see. Oh, I finished up watching a series I really like, which is found, I don't know, called Party Down.

I've heard nothing but good stuff about that. Oh, I love that so much. I can't believe it. Didn't survive i can because that's what happens every. Show i know it was so good it's and it's kind of i think i especially like it because i've determined over the years that my favorite kind of story is a story about people who set out on an adventure which is a really bad idea.

And then things go terribly wrong and it's like it's predictable i mean you kind of think This doesn't seem like a good thing for people to do. And then they do it anyway because they're human. Because that's what people do. And then it just goes bad. I love that.

I don't know what it is. That's my story. You're sadistic. I just really like it. Even if it's documentaries.

I love those like Touching the Void. Two guys go. To climb a mountain. And it goes horribly wrong. I love that, man.

That's so great. But these people are all people who went into acting. And it's not working out. Well, it's mostly all people who are actors and comedians. While they're all caterers.

Yeah, and so now they're all catering people. And they're catering to people who are on the other side. They're catering to people who are in the business. And they're always brushing up against everything they envy and resent. The one guy even runs into his old writing partner who's like a sellout and he's making a million dollars.

And he only invited them to just rub it in his face. Oh, it's so great. It's amazing. And the cast, everybody in it is just fantastic. So I've watched it to the end, and I guess now I'll start over or something.

I'm surprised I made it this far without seeing it, because I know it's also got Kirsten Ballard in it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the fact that I've made it and haven't watched it is kind of amazing. Definitely it's on the list.

I'm going to have to watch it. Yeah, once you start. I don't know how we got onto it. It's on that thing that has free stuff you can watch. I don't know if you all heard of that.

Yeah. The internet thing. Yeah, it's something. It hooks up and you just watch stuff. It's cool.

But we ran out of something we were watching. We got to the end. It's like, oh, what are we going to do? That looks good. We suggest this for you.

Yeah. Right. Like, why does this machine know me better than I know myself? It has, like, some of the people from Freaks and Geeks and other people. Oh, really?

Yeah. I'm going to watch it. Yeah, it's tie-ins from so many other shows. Like, everybody. Some of them just work in a couple episodes, but yeah, it ties in a lot of really interesting cast members.

And I noticed there's something, like Paul Rudd worked on it, probably before I ever heard of him. But there's something about him and other projects he's done that ties into it. It's like you can see he has some creative influence. And I guess I decided, he's really got something going on. He's got something... he understands and can be really funny with.

You seem like you shouldn't like him as much as you end up liking him. He seems like he's in such mainstream stuff a lot of the time that you're just like, oh, Paul Rudd again. Yeah. And then every once in a while you're like, huh, he's actually really good in this, or, oh, I didn't know he did this. Yeah.

He's sort of got a little more street cred than I guess you would expect out of him. Yeah, well, this show definitely elevated his profile for me. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of the other stuff he's done is. Mainstream, but you see traces of whatever it is he has.

Especially, I think, wasn't he the guy in 40-Year-Old Virgin who was drunk and obsessive? He was in that. I don't know about the drunk part. He's the one that... Him and Seth Rogen... um, played off of each other.

Yeah. I know how I know you're gay, but also didn't he have like the girlfriend who had dumped him and he was just like falling apart. That thought they could get back together. Yeah. That thing, there's something there that, uh, I think he really knows something about.

Right. I think he really does. He's still trying to get over Phoebe. Yeah. So that's kind of my, my geek week.

Uh, Didn't he. What did he change his name to? Ballsack or something like that? I forget what that was. It was...

You tell me. Oh, Banana Hammock is what he changed his name to. His character on Friends. Oh, Lord. Yeah.

I think that's the problem that you have with it, is he was on Friends. Yeah. You know, those sorts of things. He's too mainstream, but he's also too good, you know. and it took him so long. I mean, it took him 15, 20 years really before he worked himself up to that point.

I mean, he was go back and look at him in like these little parts years and years ago. And so yeah, it's weird. It took that long for him to hit the mainstream really. Yeah. For a long time.

He's been that guy. Yeah. He was always Cher's brother. That's why I wasn't. Even, that's why I wasn't even sure about, um, Whether that was him, because he was that guy, you.

Know, when I saw that. He was, oh, that guy. He just always shares brother to me. Who she ends up screwing around with. It's not Kentucky.

All right, so that is it for you, Matt. Your geek activities. My geek activities. If I could narrow them down. If that's possible.

I am playing a lot of SNES games. Mario Kart. Just had to throw that in there. I wanted to mention the girl who's like the basic... I was actually the model for Luigi.

It's just part of my cred. I've noticed when you walk, actually, he's got a very specific walk. Right. He's really tall with short legs. I gave him my wings.

It's like to. The old country. Right? It's a me, a Luigi. It's part of my geek cred.

I thought I'd. Toss it out. I had to throw out the Mario Brothers. I had to. I just completed, to go along with that, the new Super Mario for the Wii.

My son and I just completed it. Well, this is the absolute truth. My daughter is driving now. And when she was learning to drive, and like one of the first times we got out on the road where she could open up, somebody threw a banana. out of a window and it freaked her out because like in Mario Kart that's. Your dangerous that's your axe I didn't know what to do because in Mario Kart nothing would happen and she.

Really you know kind of shocked her uh oh the. Whole car started spinning. Yeah any Mario games after the Super Nintendo I can't play they start spinning and flying and no basically I can break blocks and spit fireballs. Kill turtles you can that to me is the mario brothers float down. With your raccoon tail i could do that in three.

Yeah three but uh i've had a lot of mario over the years so it's it's classic. You can't fight mario he's awesome but. Uh watching a lot of it's always sunny in philadelphia i had to throw that out there it is just absolute classic classic in the making. You're minorly obsessed with this. I am, and I actually went and re-watched Macon County Line.

I love this movie. This movie has nobody in it. It has Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies. Yep. He plays this hit cop, or sheriff.

And these two guys that set out on an adventure think they're going to go out on an adventure, and it just goes. Terribly wrong, just like you were saying. And, you know, there you go. You have a movie. But, uh, If you haven't seen it, I recommend going to Big Lots.

It's available for $ 3. That other place that we're not playing? Yeah, I will not mention the other place that is online. Big Lots, you can send your checks over to Ryan. I don't know.

I was motivated to watch a lot of movies this week, and I just did not do it. Renoir, I was like, okay, I'm going to watch this movie called Les Boulets. It's like Star Wars. Reading it. I was like, you know, just not in the mood for it.

And that's when I threw in Smokey and the Bandit. Yeah, see? You know, go to the old standby. That's how our brains work. We really want to watch these really sophisticated films.

Yeah, I thought it would make me sound intelligent. We end up watching boobs in cars. That's what I'm into. Yeah, that's what we love. That is what I'm into.

If Mario had boobs in cars, I'd never leave my house. That princess is pretty hot. I was going to say, princess, if you get a little profile on her. It does have cars, too. Yeah.

Maybe. Mm-hmm. That's why we keep coming back to it. I just lost my whole train of thought. Boobs.

Boobs. And then what. Were we talking about? Right. We're genetically designed to stop thinking when we see boobs.

Yeah. Anything else? I just dropped the ball on you. Sorry. I was not prepared for that.

If you can, think of anything else. Anything else you haven't been watching? I really just went blank on you. I really did. I apologize.

I mean, I recently watched Clay Pigeons. It's got Janine Garofalo, who ruins the movie for me. As much as I like her, she seems out of place. It was the one time I actually kind of liked Vince Vaughn, aside from Swingers. He's a tough sell.

Every time he plays a Midwestern person, he seems to irritate me a little bit. It's like, are you making fun of me? Would you stop making fun of me? Nice. If you take him in.

Clay Pigeons, he is exactly the same person in the remake of Psycho. He acts exactly the same. He did well in Into the Wild. He was in it for two scenes, but it didn't seem like it was him. Really?

Yeah. Really? I haven't seen it. Sorry to interrupt, but that's one thing that I know he's pretty good at. I did read the book.

I read the book. I have not seen the film. We don't talk about books. We don't talk about books. Unless they're comic books or pop-up books.

We'll see about that in the next thing. That is kind of my nerdism, or my geekism, is reading these Max Allen Collins who did The Roads of Redition. Just those, you know, kind of that... pulp fiction just it's got boobs it's got guns it's got cars it's got that detective. That is always gonna win that's what we always come back to all of these that's that's how i escape well that's what those were i mean the whole pulp novel thing it was just b movies in print basically right so yeah it's. I really like those confused conversations that happen when you're talking to somebody about something and they're thinking.

Of a book and you're talking. About something else. You're talking about what you had for dinner last night. There was one time this really attractive woman was at work and I'm like, she looked just like one of those Hemingway girls. And later I hear the other guy is like, man, Fred has this really vivid imagination.

No, I mean like Uriel Hemingway in a movie. Not in a book. Yeah, quit reading. She really looks like words. She looks like Santiago.

God. Wow. I just can't remember which of the Hemingway girls is which. I don't know. One of them was in Manhattan.

That's all I know. Marietta. Yeah. They sound too much alike. That's their problem.

They look too much alike, too. You know what? I may have always thought they were the same person. Yeah. Are they still alive?

Did one commit suicide? Or is that just the dad? The dad did. I don't think so, but if they have. Career suicide, maybe.

Yeah, it was like career-wise. I thought that one, whoever she was in Manhattan, was just fabulous. I thought she was great, and then I never saw anything again. If either of the Hemingway sisters are out there, you know, get a hold of us, let us know. Right, they listen weekly.

And more importantly, if you are dead, get a hold of us, because that would be awesome. Ghost boobs. Ghost boobs. That's what we're always looking for. That'd be a good novel.

Ghost boobs. Everybody would buy it. All you need is a gun and a car. Sequel to Ghost Dad. All right.

I guess with that, we'll take a break. We'll be back with a special segment that is actually equally, well, even more funny after... what we just said a minute ago. So we'll be right back. In the mood for hot coffee? When you are, nothing else will satisfy.

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Sounds better. Hi, this is Stephen Jeffries, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Oh, you're so cool, Brewster. I can't stand it. Steel Pan.

My wife just texted me. She took the kids to see Cars 2. They don't go to a lot of theaters and they definitely don't do the thing. The kids made her sit in the front row. What the hell?

And she yawned and her neck is up and she's looking at it and she yawned And she got a charley horse in her throat. This is not good at all. She was very concerned that something bad was happening to her. Yeah, it was. It was called Cars 2.

Oh, that should have been tagged. It is. Oh, Lord. Well, I think it's the Larry the Cable guy. That's what kills it for me.

I'm just like, I don't mind the McQueen guy. And Owen Wilson. But, I mean, you know, it's a McQueen tie-in. So I'm like, okay, I'm all right with that. And then you get into the Mater bullshit, and I'm just like, I want to tear my fucking nose open.

My problem with Owen Wilson is I always end up staring at his nose like, did he break it? Or was he born that way? Like, what is happening there? Maybe it's both. He was born that way, and the doctor punched him in the face.

Yeah. And you're just supposed to slap him on the ass. He's like, well, I couldn't help it. Did you see that nose? I really like Luke Wilson, and I can barely stand to watch Owen Wilson.

Do you like the movie Bottle Rocket? I haven't seen Bottle Rocket. Oh, we've got to see that. That's fun. Good.

I will take that down. I don't mind Owen Wilson. I don't care about his nose. Really? Yeah.

I kind of like seeing somebody who's just that confident with a fucked up face. I like that. Right. That's why you like Mask, right? What?

I actually never saw that. You never saw Mask? No. Wow. I've seen that many times.

Luke is easily as messed up. His is just not as noticeable. He's suddenly like... Puffed up like puffed weed. Well, I mean, he always had the jaw.

His jaw was always, like, fucking huge. It was weird looking. I'm like, this whole family, something ain't right with the DNA. Something's messed up. Except for they have two sons that are multi-multi-millionaires.

And that's also not fair. That just makes me angry. I don't know. Somebody who's, like, a successful, that's successful and multi-millionaire. And suicidal.

I mean, it's wasted on him. He obviously isn't appreciating it. At least write me the check and mail it off before you finish this. Yeah. So somebody can make use of it.

Especially not your family. I know. It's like when my sister, like, you know, she moved to the Bay Area in San Francisco. Won't eat seafood. You're just taking up space.

You've got no right to be there. Won't eat seafood. I see. All right, we are back. And it's been quite a while.

Actually, these next two segments it's been a while on. But it's been a while since we've done a Trendy Movie Geeks session. And technically we did just do a whole episode about a book. But, yeah, that was probably jarring enough for most of our regular listeners. But once again, we've had one thrown at us.

So we're going against the whole way this show usually works. And we're going to discuss a book for a minute. But it's okay. I think even Misty would be on board. It's got pictures.

It's mostly pictures. This isn't the Samuel L. Jackson Go to Fuck to Sleep in. Kind of, if you look at the cover here. Oh, wow.

How about that, man? That would look good with the title, Go to Fuck to Sleep. Man, they really missed the boat on that. That should be the cover to the book. The second edition was.

Go the fuck to sleep, too. It is entitled Crazy for Cult, Cult Movie Art. And I'll pass it around here, and you guys can check it out and see what you think. If you look at it, I'll give you one down. They did send this over for us to check out.

The publishers? Titan Books are the ones that put it out, and they sent it to us personally to check it out. And here's the little wall you look. I'm going to go into something here. And number one, I was bitching about this just a couple of weeks.

Ago when. I was going into the bacon thing. Because I was complaining because now all of a sudden it's super trendy. And as soon as we did our Oscar episode this year, two weeks later they had this big event in town called the Bacon Ball. And I was like, motherfuckers gotta steal my idea.

So, and now it's like Denny's has all their bacon things. I was just like, well, you know, I came up with the idea for that party like in 94, so fuck you guys. So, I mean, everybody, you know, it becomes super trendy and everybody jumps on that bandwagon. Well, I was also going to, as I'm looking at the book here, I was like, well, you know, back when I used to deal with the old artists, I put together... a show that was specifically a movie-themed art show. Fred, you were at that.

Oh, yeah. That's awesome. This was a while ago. I started doing the math. It was the beginning of 2007, which then, in looking at what they, this is, let's see, it's Gallery 1988 in California.

It's done this, and this is based, this whole book is based around the show that they've put together that is Crazy Four Cult that's specifically about movie-themed art. But, I'm pretty sure doing the math in mine was first. So, once again, my point is, bitches be stealing my idea. Yeah. But, yeah, I put together the Movie Geek Art Show, once again, working in my Movie Geek idea that's been around for more years than I can think of.

So I just worked it into a specific art show, and, yeah, we got some really good stuff there that day. Fred, you shaved your head for the event into a mohawk. No, not me. I'm not making that part up. I also encourage people to come in costume of their favorite movie characters.

My daughter came. Yep. She was there. What was she? Maria.

Oh, she was there. Yeah, she severed her own head for that. I forgot about that. She goes the distance. She was not messing around.

Oh, look, that one's creepy. I like that whole series they put together. The family photos. The family portraits of the messed up families from movies. That's a good series.

McFly fanfic. But yeah, so my little series obviously wasn't as successful as this one, but I just wanted to claim it. I did it first. Anyway, so moving on to the official stuff, I'll read what they sent over here. It's actually got an introduction by Kevin Smith, who's actually been kind of... involved with that.

He, I think, was there when they were coming up with the idea, and he and Scott Mosier have been kind of on hand for a lot of them, and I think he hosts the event. So he does the introduction on the book, and let's see. They bill this as a hugely popular, critically acclaimed annual Crazy for Cult show at LA's Gallery 1988. The cream of the pop culture-influenced art scene come together to celebrate cult movies with art that is surprising, beautiful, and very, very cool. This is the quote from the publishers, by the way.

Right, the publisher says it's cool. Which it actually is. I'm not going to argue with that. I think it's pretty cool. It's pretty damn cool, I have to say.

You want it to stand for itself. I'm like, wow, this is cool without the publisher. Telling you it is. Well, I feel, you know, they sent it over. I at least wanted to read what they say about it and then we'll have our reaction.

But I, you know, I have to agree. It's pretty damn cool. It also says, let's see, featuring a curated selection from the first four years of the show with art inspired by such movies as The Big Lebowski, Edward Scissorhands, Blade Runner, Donnie Darko, Clockwork Orange, Tron, Pulp Fiction, Clerks, and many more, this stunning book showcases why the gallery has thousands of visitors, a million hits on the website, and a huge profile of buyers including Joss Whedon, Judd Apatow, Seth Green, and J.J. Abrams. So, there you go.

That's the official rundown on the book, but it is pretty damned interesting, I have to say. I like the mixture of styles, which is usually what I like in any show. I've It's one thing when you get a show about one artist, but that's fine. You go for that and you support that specific artist. But when they do group shows and it all kind of falls into the same category, to me that's always been boring.

In any of the shows I ever put together, I tried to find people... from all different styles, but also different mediums. And I really like when they bring in totally different stuff, but all sort of, especially it's interesting when it all centers around the same theme and you get people working, like finding a way to work the style or whatever they work in and then make it fit or, or sort of harnessing it and shoving it into the theme of the show. I always kind of like seeing what people come up with in that situation. One thing I noticed flipping through there quickly is, is a lot of the characters, they've enlarged the size of their eyes. And this is a lot of different artists.

And it's almost like more of a theme than movies is. Yeah. At just about every page, the characters' eyes are a lot larger. Like I said, it's not the same artist. The only theme is movies, or cult movies, I suppose.

And that's one thing you get there. They do that a lot in comic books, too. I'm not a huge comic book connoisseur, but. It's definitely anime-tied. I've noticed that a lot, especially in that style of art, the stuff that we're looking at right here.

It's a whole movement, almost, in art that has started to center around that. Whether or not it's anything official, it's certainly one artist feeds off another, and it's become its own thing again it crosses over in entirely different styles and everything but it starts to you know you start to see trends that turn up in all different types of art so it's interesting that that's happened. I find it interesting being a photographer and cinema inspires me yeah to just see these other people's takes that what they draw from watching movies and then put it into their artwork yeah. You know i mean some of them or an abstraction. Of a scene, or like a particular scene in a movie, but others are just their own take.

It would be the same thing they would do normally, but with a different character. Right. You can see that with some of them. And I think that part's cool. Like, that's, I wish... the people listening can see that.

It does make this more and that's why i just wanted to throw it out there and give you sort of you know the details on it and you know. That one's great i'm sorry too oh the fargo fargo yeah i would put that up that is classic yes i would too we. Were talking about that that moment just the other day me and my son. What a great scene yeah in a film. He's like was that just like right when she comes walking up and.

She sees him like with He's trying to push the foot into the wood chip. Yeah. Great moment. And now you have an entire painted piece about that scene. Oh, yeah.

And it's pretty damn impressive. That's one of those moments where when it happens, you think, why hasn't this already happened? Why did it take. This long until 96 or whenever that it came up? Like the second they made...

A wood chipper? There should have been someone. I can't wait to shove this guy in. In honor of Mitch Hedberg, I always have to mention in relation to that scene that. A severed foot is the perfect stopping stuffer.

I love Mitch Hedberg. Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty awesome. But yeah, we won't dwell on it too much because it's a visual thing, so...

That was kind of why I wanted to throw it out there, at least to give you sort of the, you know, just clue everybody in that it's out there. So if it sounds like something you're interested in, I mean, it's basically just a lot of different artists doing their take on movies, specifically weird cult movies. That's usually the kind of stuff we talk about in the show anyway. So I thought it was actually a pretty good tie in topic wise, but yeah, it's visual. So you kind of need to go seek it out if you're interested.

So again, it is called Crazy for Cult, Cult Movie Art. And, yeah, thank you to Titan Books for letting us know what's out there, and we're passing the word along to you. Yeah, thank you. Go check it out. Looks like a great blog.

All right, so we will take another quick break here, and we will be back with the other missing segment that we've gone quite a while without. So we will be right back. To you To you. At our refreshment stand, your wish is our command. So the coffee we serve there is pure perfection.

Okay, Carol, now you take these notes, and then we're about ready to begin. Okay, sure. Well, what are you two doing here? We don't record until tomorrow. We're making a new promo for All Games Considered, since you were dragging your feet getting one written.

Hey, she's right, though. It's been too long, and a lot has happened since the last promo. Yeah, like winning the gold NE for Best Gaming Podcast for 2009. You mean the one you try to work into the conversation every other episode? Hey, now, now, there's more than that.

There's the new format. You mean the main show every two weeks and the assortment of other features in the meantime? Right, like games you may never have heard of, the review in new shows. Don't forget the RPG buffet. And on the main show, we have more time to focus on gaming topics.

Like board and card games. And RPGs. And the people who play them from the old school to the newest of the new. But no changeling. Hey!

Find out more at agcpodcast.info All games considered, because there's more than one true way to play. What's up? It's Brian again. Just here to tell you it's coming up on one of our favorite times of year here at Movie Meltdown. It's coming up on the Fright Night Film Fest.

This will be the seventh annual Fright Night Film Fest. But not only that. This year also kicks off Fandom Fest. an entire second convention of geek and pop culture. But wait, you get both awesome shows for the same low price. Now this is no longer just a convention that caters to horror geeks, but it crosses over into a whole new realm where fantasy and sci-fi lovers, as well as comic book collectors, general film lovers, can hang out with gamers, authors, and artists of all types.

It's like Geek Valhalla, only you don't have to die to get there, you just have to get your tickets now. Now the main guest... The legend himself, director John Carpenter. Amazing. One of the most influential directors of our time.

Not only that, this list of guests goes on. We've got the Fonz himself, Henry Winkler. That is so awesome. Also, Margot Kidder, Tiffany Shephus, Larry Drake, Jeremy Bullock, Tony Moore and the Stars of The Walking Dead. The Stars of Enter the Dragon.

Bruce Lee not included. A Karate Kid Cobra Kai reunion. And give us a Revenge of the Nerds reunion. Seriously. Featuring Robert Carradine, Larry B.

Scott, Curtis Armstrong, and if booger bean there wasn't enough, Donald Gibb. Ogre, ladies and gentlemen, will be there. There's so many others. I mean, the stars of American Graffiti, Jaws, Phantasm, so many other stars. You'll just have to go look at the list.

It's ridiculous how many stars are there. Plus, again, we cross over into all the other activities that are added this year. You've got literary guests and gaming guests and artists. There'll be seminars and workshops going on, movies the entire weekend, live music, a masquerade ball, and the now infamous Georgetown Drive-In event. plus an appearance from your friends at Movie Meltdown. And isn't that really the most impressive thing?

And it's all going on July 22nd through the 24th in Louisville, Kentucky. So get your tickets now. You can go to Fright Night Film. or the site for the new convention, Fandom Fest. That's F-A-N-D-O-M-F-E-S-T dot com. It's going to be one hell of a weekend.

The Fright Night Film Fest is my favorite film festival. Hands down. It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.

And now, on with the show. I scream your name. It always stays the same. I scream your shadow. So what I'm gonna do now is freak the freak out.

Hey! Whoa! You just went to Florence. You should be inspired. Yeah.

I wasn't. It's just penises and pretty faces everywhere. Like, it's a public service announcement. What are they trying to tell me? Penises go with pretty faces, I guess.

I guess. And then every time, this one building, like, every time I went around the landing of the stairwell, there's a bust of the chick with the one boob plopped out. And it's kind of whiter than the rest of the sculpture. Like, people rub it as they. Go by for luck.

I don't know, but that's what I did. I'm pretty sure. I'm just waiting for the, yeah, I'd be wondering if the person would, like, put, like, a sticker nipple on it or something like that. That would be... I'm using sticker nibbles.

I just like saying that. That's a fun word to say that rolls off the tongue. All right, we're back. And it is time for a return to the almost forgotten by most people movie fan freak show. Greetings, carnival robes.

Step right up and meet the freaks. Now this, if, if, Again, it's been a while, so I'll refresh your memory if you haven't been here for the older ones. But there's a very distinct difference. We on this show certainly fall into the category of movie geek. And there's a big difference in my mind of a movie geek and a movie freak.

And the people we usually go into on this level are just strange and weird. The fact that they're drawn to the movies is usually equally as weird or just some anomaly as to why you can't figure out some of the basics at this point. So sometimes you just go with it and you're just awed by the weirdness of these people. So we've definitely done a few classics in the past, but I thought we would do another session today and throw a few out there. Let's see.

Do we want the visual. First or afterwards? How do you guys... Because we've done artist renderings of them, but I also like the idea of you guys listening to the story yourselves and then doing your own version. I kind of want these people to be like, you know, Bigfoot sightings or alien meetups.

I mean, I want everybody to sort of have their own take on them out there. I vote yes. All right. We can wait until I've told the tale and then you can see what you think, but... Either way, I mean, I guess you can run into these kind of people anywhere out there in the world.

And sometimes you do, and it may not tie to movies. Now, the movie tie-in is a hell of a lot easier when you work around movies. So with, you know, at least Greg and myself, we both fell into that category for a while there. And that's where a good portion of mine came from, was being not only, you know, seeing these people, but then having to deal with them on a professional level, if we were ever professionals. But then you kind of have to make nice with them and play along with their crazy behavior.

So some of the other ones are crazy. This one's a little more creepy. Now, originally I was just going to go with Jeffrey for this one. But I decided that's not accurate enough. Because like every good serial killer or loner assassin, he has three names.

And, you know, he always went by three names. He would special order things with us, and he would always be by the three names. He always went with the three names. So to me, it always felt that way. So now with all of these, I feel we should at least sort of minorly adjust the details so as to not out these people as, you know, we don't necessarily have to slander them by names.

We just want to tell the crazy tale. So I'll adjust it and I'll refer to him as Jeffrey Lee Miller. How did I know you were going to go with Lee? That's like the serial killer middle name. Actually, I think it's Wayne.

I think Wayne is official serial killer material. It wasn't even killer. It's in the ballpark though. That's more like an assassin. It came from actually Johnny Lee Miller.

So no offense to Johnny Lee Miller. I was just looking for a good three name and that just worked pretty well. So No offense to Johnny, or if your name happens to actually be Jeffrey Lee Miller, just know that that's not actually this person's name, and I'm not talking about you. So this is just a nice little name I've come up with to give him some sort of identity. But really, I don't think by the end of this story you're going to feel sorry for him.

Anyway, you'll be a little creeped out by him. So we'll refer to him as Jeffrey Lee Miller. Now, this, and again, I'm giving these descriptions based on back in the day, so that the age is probably massively off by now, but just to give you the idea of what we had to look at at the time, he's probably in his early to mid-30s. He has dark black curly hair that sticks way up off the top of his head, Kramer style. He wears thick black room glasses, pants that come up way past his waist, A dress shirt.

This is always... This is like a uniform. Pants up high, a dress shirt, and rainbow suspenders. Yeah, like Mork used to wear. This was his.

This was a while ago, so it actually didn't even have that extra meaning. Because now I would just assume maybe he was just advertising something else in his life. But this was a while ago when really people weren't even using that to mean that type of lifestyle, so... He was just weird. It was more of a Mork reference, I think.

It was more that he was just a weirdo at the time, because this was quite a while ago when I used to have these interactions with this character. So, yeah, this was at a video store, a corporate-run video store. We won't go into the name, especially since they're gone. They're bankrupt, so I don't even feel the need to bring them up. But, yeah, he's the kind of guy, and Greg, you'll know this one, and probably anybody who's ever worked retail, The kind of guy who comes in five minutes before you're supposed to close and wants to look around for hours if you'll go along with it.

He'll pretend like he has no idea that you're like turning off lights and vacuuming around his feet and like, you know, closing the door and you name it. He's just oblivious to all of it going on. And that just became his thing. He would stay there way past time that he should already be gone. Everybody else should have been home 15, 20 minutes ago.

He's still in there loitering around. And then he wanders out without buying a damn thing. He would do this pretty much every time. That became his M.O. He would come in. stand around 20 minutes after you're supposed to be done, and then walk out.

And just not even bother. Not even be like, oops, sorry, I didn't know you were getting... No, don't even bother. Just freak of nature. So then he changed his routine, and he started coming in first thing in the morning.

That's an equally annoying group of people. The people that are waiting at the gate in the morning when you're... You know it's never good. They either have to return something immediately... or they just are a freak and they want to, you know, have some sort of interaction with you when you have nobody else there to distract you that you, you can't escape basically. They know you're going to be there for hours.

So that's more of what this was, I believe, because then at night he would just come in and loiter, but in the mornings he wanted to talk. This was trouble. He wanted to, he would come over and just ramble for hours and, would tell you about who was a bit player in this movie and what year this movie came out in the 50s. And the one specifically, he told me, and he might have told me more than once, he was pretty pleased with this one, that John Wayne was in Ben-Hur as an extra. Now, I looked it up.

That's actually true. He did do work, and he's got such a minor role in it that they refer to him as an extra. But, buddy, who cares? I'm just like. It's one thing if you have a good rapport with these people and you can actually get along with them and you actually are involved in the conversations.

But, Greg, you dealt with a lot of these people. I mean, there's some people you tolerate because you have to. And this guy, I think he was aware of that. And sometimes they do know it and they start to bank on that because these are the only people they can talk to or the ones that have to put up with them all day. So, yeah, at this point he's just kind of an annoying character, but He gets a little creepier.

He also has the tendency to become infatuated with girls that work in video stores. There were at least two that I know of that he kind of did this to, but. He sort of, um, I would hear stories about him sort of latching on to different women at different stores, some of, like, entirely other chains, like rental stores across town that also had stories about this character. So, um, but the one I heard firsthand was from one of my former managers, and, um, It seems that he had been quite infatuated with her, and she was an attractive girl, so he kept coming in and talking to her, much to her dismay. And his big finale, as it were, he came in one day, stood in front of the counter, and did a song and dance.

It was entitled The Buffalo Song. Banana Cherry Buffalo's Dance? No. That would have been awesome. No, it wouldn't.

No. No. Yeah, so I mean, for years after that, the Buffalo song sort of lived in infamy around this horrible, horrible character. Yeah, song and dance to this poor girl working behind the counter by herself, I'm assuming, because I'm sure he went in in the morning when he could corner her and creep her out a little more. But yeah, to wrap it up, even at the time, he didn't go into the mall anymore because, well, he was banned from the mall.

He was escorted from the mall by security after asking some 12-year-old girls if he could touch their legs. Yeah. There you go. That's the kind of guy he was. This is the kind of guy Jeffrey was.

Creepy as the day is long. So, for my rendering... Have you got a good image yourself of. I can't get Kramer out of my head, so unfortunately... He's pretty.

Yeah, but I mean, it's pretty close on the hair. I had to use that as a good reference to kind of give everybody just what you're dealing with, and mine's still a little off, but it's pretty damn funny as far as I'm concerned. So here's what I came up with on my version of it. I know that guy. My grade school version of character rendering.

Yeah, this is what I came up with. I was a little like. I like the sallow cheekbones. Looks a little like Christopher Walken. He was a tall, lanky motherfucker, and he had this, like, sunken-in kind of face, and yet still scruffy and never really seemed like he had his shit together, and the hair was always a mess.

And just, yeah, he's a scary guy. Scary character I like how the inseam is over half of his body it's like the inseam's gotta go up to his. Navel and I can't remember if he had the high waters but I had to put him on there because I'm pretty sure he did actually the more I thought about it I was like yeah I'm pretty sure I saw more of his socks than I ever ever needed to see so yeah that would be Jeffrey I. Just have to say Christopher Walken is an idol of mine so no offense to be taken by Mr. Walken He could play a creepy pedophile pretty easily.

I think he'd do it well. Didn't he? Somewhere? Just in the real world? We don't know.

He was some guy in a movie based on a Harold Pinter play, and he came off that way. He just seemed like he kept wearing this light-colored suit. And I remember one reviewer said, he gave you the impression he was wearing something really strange under his pants. Aren't we all? Yeah.

So yeah, that was my entry. We'll add it into the logbook here. I've been trying to catalog them, almost like a wilderness show, tagging them, and I don't really want to release them back into the wild, but they're out there. So I feel like, you know, as a warning to people, just knowing that they're out there and And, you know, again, we get these bad little drawings. So you can be like, well, that kind of looks.

Like that one. They can be like, post office. Yeah, it's kind of like that. Have you seen this? Have you seen this bastard?

Yeah. So that was my entry, Mr. Jeffrey Lee Miller. Fred, did you have one? I had one.

It's kind of more benign. I've worked in this place that shall not be named. We can call it the Ninth Circle. All right. And we had this thing, just to get through the day, where we were constantly writing the movie of where we were.

And we were always talking about who would play us and who would play other people. And it was the ongoing. And we actually developed a script at some point. We had like a story line. And then we decided, no, it's bigger than that.

This will be the movie. In the movie that we're always talking about. And that's what we would do, but the actual movie will just encapsulate that. This is an elaborate plot. Yeah, and it was really where we worked, all the customers that came in and stuff.

It was like a parade of freaks. And when the movie Best in Show came out, we thought, you know, this could work. This could actually happen. Because it was like that. It's all these characters.

Some of the characters almost were the people we dealt with. So that's what we had going for a while. And we were all talking about movies and we liked some different things. But then there was this one guy who started working for a while. And I'm noticing that this guy comes up every time in one way or another.

But he looked, he really looked kind of a lot like Steve Zahn. Except he had dark hair. Just sort of dark headed. But he had that sort of like dopey grin. Yeah.

And like a little extra kink in the corner of his mouth or something. And I tried to draw it, but I can't get it. I could almost have carved it into a pumpkin if I had time. If you want. By the time I get this up, if you want to get the pumpkin done, I can post the photo for the pumpkin.

He was a really good guy, and he was good to work with. In all ways, except you just couldn't find any way to relate to it. You know, we'd be talking and, you know, making references to this. And he was always in this sort of good mood. Like, yeah, well, that sounds interesting.

Yeah, but I guess I've never seen that movie. Sounds like I ought to look that up. And we'd be like... Yeah, it's called The Godfather. Sure, you ought to check that out.

It might be hard to come by. It's an obscure little film. And after a while we'd be asking each other, did you. Talk to this guy? And I don't know what to call him because I'd want to change his name.

He was a really nice guy. But I can't because I don't remember his name. And any name I pick might be his name. Eduardo. So I'm going to call him Tiffany.

I'm pretty sure his. Name wasn't Tiffany. All right. Or you could call him Steve's arm. I could call him Steve.

Steve really would fit him. I mean, yeah. Maybe it really was Steve's arm. So, yeah, we'd try to just all the time we'd be talking about, but no. Never really heard of that.

It's like. What? You mean Jaws? Like a movie about a shark? Yeah.

It's really cool. It has this theme and. No. No, I guess I missed that one. And we're all just.

After a while, we started to be mystified by it. And it was more like almost supernatural. Like he was raised in a closet or something. Um. And about that time, I read an article about this girl that was actually raised in a closet, and she developed no language.

And then all the psychologists descended on her to study her, because when do you get an opportunity to study that? And then they were all, you know, like, after doing their dissertation on her, and then when they were done. With her, they, like, abandoned her. I get it. Yeah.

Like science does. Although they had all had conferences to... be careful about these ethical issues, and they all knew what they were doing, and they still did the wrong thing. It was just so sad. And I thought, maybe this guy, I mean, he has language, he can talk, he seems like, he just has no, like, sense of culture. I mean, my parents didn't have a.

Lot of pop culture. They didn't, you know, they didn't really keep up. But they knew, you. Know... the stuff they knew. This guy, nobody could figure out just how do you get a conversation going?

Where do you find an opening? It was even stranger than the one guy we worked with who had a DVD player that would only play. Movies with a certain actress in it. I forget her last name. Skye something.

Iona Skye? Yeah. It would only play DVDs. And even if they were pirated, it would. Any movie she was in, it would play that, and it wouldn't play anything else.

That's limiting your options, because she kind of quit working for a while. Yeah, but it was a fascinating electronic phenomenon. So we thought that was weird, but then this guy came along, and we're like. We're into a whole new zone now. This is just beyond.

The strange and unusual. And then one day, one of the guys was going somewhere with him to. do a job or something. We were professional killers back then. Is this the movie inside the movie? This is the story inside the story.

I'm still stuck on that. Well, they were. Driving somewhere, getting into character, and they pass a billboard along the road for Sinbad, who's going to be appearing at the comedy club or something. Not the podcast. And this guy goes off he.

Goes oh that guy man that guy is. So funny he was in this movie I've seen all his movies. Man every one of his movies and he starts like telling them he starts telling them like oral history of Sinbad movies And that was his culture. That was the only thing we ever found that he knew and could refer to. And he could just tell them from start to finish.

And I'm not really that familiar with Sinbad's movies. But the guy who came. Back, he says, man, I've got to tell you what happened. This guy is like Sinbad's biggest fan. Maybe his only fan.

Did he also dress in nylon? Did he wear the running jacket and the. no he was just a t-shirt and a windbreaker and he looked like an ordinary guy but he had this thing where he had never connected with the culture of North America or the world the western. World except for Sinbad that was the one thing and eventually you know he quit or went somewhere but this guy is. Still out there yeah walking around walking the streets. You're wondering why they're earning new sin bad news yeah yeah.

And you wouldn't know to look at him it's just you know you'd be next to him in a store somewhere it's like it's a regular guy walking around but no no it's a guy who like i don't know. Live in fear ladies and gentlemen yeah i don't know how to describe i tried to draw him but Then it's like, well, then I've got to draw Steve Zahn. Kind of, yeah. You can just get a picture. Of Steve Zahn and darken his hair.

Yeah. But he always had this kind of like, something like that. That kind of works, actually, yeah. So I want to hold it up and do the voice. Oh, that sounds pretty cool.

Yeah, no, I never saw that. Huh, you say it's called Star Wars, huh? Star what? Is that about celebrities or something? It sounds pretty cool.

I'll have to watch that sometime, I guess. And that's the guy. And now I see him sitting at home, watching House Guest, doing those hand motions, probably. Or watching A Different World. I don't think I really got it.

It looks a little like Brandon or something. It's not quite right, but yeah, that's the look in the eye. I sort of got the eyes. And they're kind of dead, too. Yes.

Well, I'll go on record as saying, while he doesn't have a stellar film career... I'm still pretty pleased with the stand-up career of Sinbad. Oh, yeah. Sure. Right.

But it's like one of those things, like, who would be a fan of his movies? Nobody. Nobody is a fan of his... And this guy, that's like. That was his thing.

Like, he didn't even reference that he was ever stand-up. No. Right. Oh, he does stand-up, too? He was in that movie...

Oh, man. I couldn't name a Sinbad movie, I don't think. He missed the chance at Kazam. How did Shaquille O'Neal get. The role over Sinbad in Kazam?

Your name's Sinbad. Oh, the tiny dude is over. You know, I worked with a guy, and this isn't really a movie reference. I could do a whole episode on This is a True Freak. Yeah, this man spent $ 19, 000 on a wife from Nigeria that never arrived.

And it was months that he kept sending money, and she was going to bring the millions. This is the big fish that they go for, $ 19, 000. And he said at one point, This is the second time this has happened. I'm going to have to stop. That's how bad this is.

I've got stories that could go on for days about this man. But I see him on his computer. His computer's in front of mine. And he spends four hours, not getting in trouble, looking up pictures of Julia Delpy. Is that her name?

Julia Delpy, I believe. French actress? Yeah, and he looks up an hour's worth of looking at pictures of her feet. And reading all the Wikipedia stuff and all this information. And so we fuck with him sometimes.

You know. And I'm always very nice to him. But I want to get inside his mind and figure out what's going on. That's how you do it. You lure him in.

You befriend him. And then you stick it to him. And so I ask him, I say, so you were looking at Julie Delpy's stuff all day. I said, yeah. What do you think of her?

And he goes, oh, I just, she's a wonderful, beautiful woman. I am just in love with her mind. And I'm like, wow. Okay, great. He's committed.

All right. But that's, that's great. This guy's about 60 and creepy. I just, um, Jeffrey level of crazy. This, this is like the serial killer that could kill you with the bacteria on his arm.

That kind of serious, that kind of creepy. All right. And I started asking him about it. I said, oh, I really love movies. I started asking him about it.

Well, I don't remember what movie she's been in. And he goes, she's in movies? Like just totally. Oblivious to the fact that this woman he's been looking at for hours is in movies. And he goes, I'll have to check those out.

And that's why your story reminded me of it. This guy's dad. Yeah. No, this guy's never had any trouble, because no woman's ever been with this man. Yeah, he can't even.

Pay $ 19, 000 to get a woman. Yeah, this man would look at pictures of, he'd look at webcams from nude beaches. Oh, that's... That's the kind of guy. When you can see anything you want.

In the world, but you want to be a creepy dude. At a new speed. That's what you're choosing. That's a special kind of guy. You've got to give him credit.

He's a special kind of creepy. I wouldn't want to be alone with him ever. He was completely oblivious that she was even an actress. He loves Hermione, but has no idea that she's an actress. Where did he even get the information that she existed?

How do you read pages and pages about her? Did he see her on a nude beach somewhere and fall in love with Hermione? I don't know. I mean, she is French. She could easily be nude on a beach.

Right. Right now. But there were two other guys that were with me, and we just kind of looked at each other for several minutes. Like, I can't believe. That just happened.

What was the Ethan Hawke romantic? I was just thinking, I was waiting for him to be like, wait, so before Sunrise it's coming? Yeah, before Sunrise. Really? Because one of the other guys said, weren't there two or three of those movies?

There's a sequel years later. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, one of the guys, Brent, he brought those up, and he said, oh, yeah, she's the main role other than Ethan Hawke in these movies. You need to check them out.

No clue. No clue. And the next day, he had seen both of them. He had watched them 17 times. Oh, man.

Creep. Wow. But, you know, I'm going to take up a little bit for the creeps of the world. If they're harmless. You know, if he's just looking at pictures on the internet.

I would certainly fall into that category. So I'm not totally, you know, I just, it's the level of creepiness. And that's what I've always said about these people. It's not the weird awkwardness, because that I understand. That I identify with.

It's the being so out of touch with reality to realize that you're creeping other people out. That you don't have that boundary. That you don't have the social awareness to be able to go... Maybe I should not sing this song about a buffalo to this girl. Maybe that's crossing the line.

This guy didn't wash. Within days of working there, the floor, the laminate floor was black from dirt. Just the most disgusting. And it was at a place where you pretty much can't be fired. So it was.

I might have to ask you about that place later. I think we all might need some more time. But I guess the thing that came up for me recently, I was thinking about Dante's because I was like, my sister was telling. Me this story about places I might. Want to go and see, and she said, well, and there's, you know, Dante's house is nearby, and there's this place where he saw this girl Beatrice when he was nine, and he just became obsessed with her, and I didn't really know much about him, but I'm like, well, that's cool, but that's like this historically remembered thing was.

A nine-year-old having a crush on a girl. And then you know then there are all these ideas about courtly love and how it's an admiration that's blah. Blah blah He's like, no, it was a crush. These were human beings. I know about this.

Or it was a creepy obsession. Yeah. Well, it kind of was. We all have those. It kind of was.

But he wrote about it, you know, and he didn't really write about her looks. And that doesn't convince me because, I mean, he didn't know her. No. They both married different people. but he carried this thing with him, and, like, he admired her courtesy. That's equally as weird as her feet.

Well, yeah, I mean, he has to say what he can. Say about it, I guess, but... Like, years later, he saw her on the street. She was walking with two older women dressed in white, and she waved to him. Check out the courtesy on her.

Right, right. She also blew his mind. Yeah, and then, you know, she died when she was 24, and it just tore him to pieces. He didn't know her. He never had to live with her.

He never had to, like, make decisions that involved her in any way. But he just got this weird obsession thing in his head. And it changed him. And the idea is maybe it changed him for the better, but I don't know. I think it's almost worse like that.

Because if you live with somebody, if you actually deal with them in the real world, you start to go, oh, they're just kind of a person. They're not this idealized thing. You don't have this perfect image of them and this perfect love for them because they screw that up. Because you see all the shortcomings and you see the the day-to-day version of them that isn't this shiny, idealized thing. It becomes a real person.

And I think that's probably harder to part with is the idea of losing that ideal love instead of this, you know. Granted, it's harder to lose a real person because you're actually attached to them. But I think the idea of it is probably worse the other way because you're losing so much more In the ideal sense. Again, not the personal connection sense, but your brain, who is probably messed up anyway, or you wouldn't be idealizing this person you don't know anything about. I think it is one of those that's probably harder to deal with, especially for somebody in that state of mind.

Well, you know, those childhood obsessions, that person is dehumanized. Yeah. They're really not really human. And the fact that they die... Yeah.

It almost. It's almost that transcendence moment. Either you're one realizing that, well, they're dead and they were real. Yeah. Or now it's...

They're more than alive. Yeah, and that's the thing that's crazy. I mean, it would be so easy to just say, fuck it, let it go and get over it. But he held on to whatever this thing he thought she was or meant. And... tried to make it like a part of him, and I don't know anything about his art.

I mean, I've heard things, but I've never read Dante. My kids have read him, but I've. Never read him. I thought he just worked at the Quick Stop. Yeah.

I just thought it was like an interesting thing, because it just connects to so many things in terms of, you know, film images. Yeah, it's how we attach ourselves to people even if they're not real even if they're joey dopey but yeah i mean it is it's kind of how we deal with it and that's that's the part that i think is weird is like you know normal people just go oh i like that person but you you get these other people and i'm not saying i haven't skated that line before but i'm there there becomes me. And everybody like yeah there's no point in experiencing fiction. Unless you're going to indulge in some. And, you know, attach yourself to the characters.

And sometimes the real life version of them, you know, you find the actors. But it's these people that, yeah, that don't understand the difference almost. It's not even like they're knowingly doing this. It's that they really almost live in this world where they don't understand the difference. You know, like he really thought he was, you know, he had a shot with Julie.

Probably. Or this, you know, this guy who doesn't understand that the girl on the other side of the counter is totally creeped out by him. And it's like You know, at least I still exist in that world where I'm like, no, she doesn't want anything to do with me. I'm moving on. Whereas he is oblivious to that and continues on with this like, oh, my God, she's so perfect.

I'm like, yeah, but she's also weirded out by you, freak. Move on. Yeah, I mean, that's the part that kind of fascinates me about these people. It's not just the freak show stories, which, granted, those are fun. But it is that that's usually the dividing line with most of them is the fact that they don't know the difference.

They don't have that barrier. They're so caught up in their narcissistic fantasy. It's something that they don't notice the world around them. The real world. Yeah.

They exist in their own little freak world and it's... Ah, yeah. So I think it's interesting to talk about these people. Number one, because we like to make. Fun of them.

Yeah, we're jerks. We'll admit to it, I would hope. But I don't know. I think there is something... to look at. There is almost a weird psychological thing that you can kind of start to break down and hopefully not figure out, because I think once you figure it out, you're in the mind of that.

I think that's the only way to truly understand it, is once you've crossed over into their world. I have one foot in there, but I don't want to. Go there yet. Oh, Lord. So I think that more than rounds out our freak show session here.

We will definitely add at least a couple of those into the vault there, but we might have to throw at least yours in, Greg. I mean, it is movie-related, kind of. He didn't know it was, but it's certainly, to me, as you're looking at her, yeah, we might have to work him in, so you'll have to start sketching. I know people that have drawn this guy. Okay, get a hold of him.

Oh, Lord. So, yeah, with that, we'll escape from the freaks, I suppose. Well, you're left with these freaks, but we'll get away from those stories. Just to round it out, we won't have a full-on feedback, but I did have one that I was going to pass along, sort of. These are short because they're Twitter-related, so you don't get much out of that.

There was one I brought up last week to you, Greg, and I said, and these are from Equal Opportunity Dork, which you may know as the internet personality formerly known as Eskimo. And, yeah, he was mentioning, and this is something I've wondered how people were taking it. In a way, I kind of don't care because this is the way I like the show to be. But, I mean, we are all over the map. We've got shows that are different people.

We've got shows at different places. We've got some we talk about news. Sometimes we do a whole session on a movie. So, I mean, it's like we do a lot of different stuff. And he sent me one that was like, He's like, I haven't mentioned this, but I really like the fact that I kind of don't know what I'm going to get, that I open it up and I can't tell.

I wrote him back. I was like, yeah, it's kind of like a carnival wheel. You spin the wheel, and this week you get some sort of movie geek-related activity, and you don't know what it's going to be, but hopefully it's pretty awesome. I kind of like that. I like that, but he ended it with, he said, it's kind of an exciting experience each week, especially if it's a coffee shop episode.

Nice. And I mentioned that to you and you, and you said it was probably the Fred factor. So we decided, okay, it's probably the Fred factor. And then the more I thought about it. Oh yeah.

Awesome. You're getting a little fan club. We know. Cool. Well, and that's the thing.

The first time I heard like some good response from somebody, I just like, I didn't even know what to say. That's awesome. Well then, yeah. So then I started thinking back. I was like, I think he did specifically mention him like a while back.

So I went back. It was like two months ago. I pulled one up and it says, uh, It's just a post. Once again, you get one sentence there. So it says, I kind of want Fred on the show more.

He says amazing shit. That's the best review I've ever got for anything in my life. There you go. I'm going to get that on a shirt. Says amazing shit.

I was going to get one for Father's Day. They didn't do it. I told my family to get me a shirt that on the back it would say, don't encourage him. That's pretty awesome. You know, you could put that on your resume, though.

Yeah, sesame. Sesame and shit. And it was a review. Yes, I thought, you know, these are very short versions, but I thought it needed to be passed along, Fred. You're getting your own fan club.

So awesome. All right. Well, I guess we can start rounding it out. Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins. Somebody.

Nobody else is going to do it. I'm just getting out my decoder bag. Set your pins to V2. Here is the message. I like doing it to people who have no idea what I'm talking about and waiting for them to do it.

I'm still wondering if we're making a movie inside of a movie right now. It's a podcast inside of a podcast. Oh, no, wait. We did that last week. When does the ice cream social start?

Oh, yeah. Oh, podcast within a podcast. All right, kids, it is time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal of actually two exciting upcoming features, possibly several weeks worth here. Because I was looking at the calendar, and we've got most of this month is already kind of mapped out, so we know some stuff going on. So next week, once again, you spin the wheel, you don't know what you're going to get.

Next week, road trip again. We are back on the road. We are heading to Indianapolis for the Days of the Dead conventions. This is actually the first time they're doing this one, so it will be interesting to see what they've put together. But so far online, it looks kind of impressive.

So we'll have to see what they've put together at Days of the Dead. Hopefully, if all of my nefarious plans go right, we'll have some special guests thrown in on those episodes. So that's where we'll be at least next week, maybe the next couple of episodes. So the following week, and we were just discussing that earlier today, what we're attempting to do, the week after that is actually the 10th annual Lebowski Fest. And if you weren't aware, you've probably heard about it if you're a movie geek, and you may or may not have known, this town that we're sitting in right here is actually the birthplace of Lebowski Fest.

Sometimes I'm confused that it even exists, but the fact that it has the following that it does is amazing. So I just thought that was kind of interesting and that we're sitting in the middle of it. So yeah, we're talking to the guys at Lebowski Fest. We're going to try to do an episode... from lebowski fest in some capacity so yeah we're gonna go wander around lebowski and and we're um we're planning a special movie tie-in it might not be what you're thinking so. Wonder what it could be wonder what it could.

Be we'll get back to that later all right uh anything else we want to pass along this episode If nothing else, thank you once again to Nancy's Bagel Round for letting us commandeer the coffee shop here and scare people away for the last couple of hours. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.

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All kinds of colors running through their hair, and you can just about spot a freak anywhere. But then again, you can know someone all their life and might not know their freak unless you see them at night. Cause friends go out at night. The freaks come out at night. Now the party's jumping, the place is packing, and when the crowd's like this, I'm ready to rap.

But before I can buzz around on the mic, freaks are all over me like white on rice. Freaks come in all shapes, sizes, and colors, but what I like about them most is that they're real good lovers. They do it in the park, they do it in the dark, but most freaks are known. For breaking hard. You can never tell what a freak is thinking of And you may never catch a freak without at least one glove They don't walk, when they step they strut And nine times out of ten they drive you nuts So take my advice, you don't stand a chance Freaks are so bad they got their own dance So if you wanna live a nice quiet life Do yourself a favor, don't come out at night Cause.

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The freaks come out at night. The freaks come out. The freaks come out at night. Hut one. Hut two.

Hut, hut, hut, hut. Dance break. Get out to see. Show me that you deserve to be a friend. Get a new show.

Work it out now. Everybody, everybody, have a good time. Get a new show. Let it out now. Let it all hang out.

Let it out now. Let it all hang out. Dance, break, get out to sea. Show me that you can turn me to your fight. Dance, break, get out to sea.

Show me that you can turn me to your fight. Dance, break, get out to sea. Show me that you can turn me to your fight. Take a look now. Let it hang out.

Everybody around, let it hang out. You will feel me so much today. . . The freaks come out at night. The freaks come out at night. We'll be fresh on names.

I'm Greg. I'm Fred. Oh, now you're going to. Fuck with me. No, he's right.

He's Greg. I'm Fred. Yes, I'm Fred. Did we get that right? Did we?

I don't know. I don't know.