90.2: Dreamscapin' with the Snakeman

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Are you listening to Movie Meltdown? I'm Amanda Burse. I hope so. It's time for Sofa Theater. There he is, Alex Gardner, when he was 19 years old.

I worked with him for a year and a half. He was an authentic genius, this boy. Exceptionally gifted. Telekinesis was only one of his talents. I remember reading about him.

Caused quite a controversy at the time. Then, in the middle of it, he disappeared. Yeah. He ran out on us. After months of intensive parapsychological testing.

Didn't like being poked and prodded. Who dies? He's perfect. I want him. Yes, you're right, of course.

He would be perfect. If we can find him. You leave that to me. If he's alive, I'll find him. Hey, hey, kids, rock and roll.

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All right, this week's Sofa Theater feature is Dreamscape, 1984, director Joseph Rubin. The most simplified, actually, I had problems with several of the IMDb plots, so I'm going with the first half of the first sentence on one of them. Oh, wow. And that's right. A government-funded project looks into using psychics to enter people's dreams.

If you stop there, it's not wrong yet. Yeah. There's several others. What happens later? Is there any way?

Well, the other one says, a man who can enter and manipulate people's dreams is recruited by the government. Okay, no. No. He had no use of that before. He's not recruited by the government specifically because of his power to manipulate people.

No. And then it is to help cure the president of the United States. No, that's not what he was brought. They didn't even know anything about that when they started this project. So once again, wrong, wrong.

Massively wrong. To end world peace. I mean, wait. You can't worry. So, first off, giant spoiler alert, just to let you know it's out there.

We're going to talk about Crazy Snake Man. If you don't want to, I'll have that ruined for you if you've been napping since 84 and you. Haven't seen this one. Dreaming. Dreaming away.

Go ahead and go get yourself a copy. It's pretty much readily available. It's on Netflix. Watch instantly right now. So, yeah, it's easily accessible.

Go get yourself a version of it and watch it. Next up, before we begin, I do want to officially add this to the official Hall of Fame here as. Video Boxes That Warped My Brain. Or in this case, and the colors are a little off on this, by the way. You guys were checking it out earlier.

It looks really bright. It looks really beautiful. Yeah, it's a little different. I kind of like the original. And I know what the original is because this, for my purposes, falls under One Sheets That Warped My Brain.

Because I had this one sheet on my wall for years. Yeah, for quite a while. I had probably the folded version back when they came that way. And at some point, probably a flea market somewhere, dorky kid that I was. Went and tracked one down, and it hung on my wall for a long time there.

It was one of those original ones back as a kid. You should have laminated it. God. I'm sure I still have it. It's lost somewhere in a box, but it's not like it left.

God forbid I get rid of anything. So when I come across it again... you'll see it hanging on the wall. More than likely. Nice. So, yeah, I mean, it's one of the more awesome visions ever.

This is back when they actually made kick-ass movie posters. Yeah. I think it is Drew Streisand, I think, who did the art. There hasn't been an art cover for a movie this awesome since Adventures in Babysitter. Which, once again, was very much like that.

Yeah. I think that was Drew Streason also. Yeah. It's back when they really took the scope of the entire movies and jammed it into one poster. And not the way that the badly pieced together videotape covers.

You remember how horrible those were. Mm-hmm. When they would just slap. Like, this one finds a way of working in damn near everything that takes place in that movie in that one image. Yeah.

And yet, it doesn't seem forced. It doesn't seem hacked together out of, you know, just still frames that they stole off the video. It seems very Indiana Jones-esque. Yeah, it's completely Indiana Jones. But it was one of those, I went back watching it again, I'm like, no, it's all in there.

Even the cheesy torch is in there. It's like he works in everything. So, I mean, it. it's a very motorbike scene yeah. There's no horses in here you. Were lying well we already we already covered the horses in our dreams that's a whole different thing but but yeah i think it's an awesome uh video box slash one sheet and yeah that's that's the way to go.

Really The cover, not that anyone can see this, but the cover reminds me also, at least the artwork, of Neverending Story. I was thinking that, yeah. I'm pretty sure you did that too. Once again, classic, epic packaging back when they knew how to do it. Every once in a while now, somebody will turn out a good one.

The kid looks like a troll, though. He's all creeped in the back. He looks like Sean Astin a little bit. We can get to him. He's got a fabulous tie-in, too.

Nice. Alright, so we've thrown out the plot. Where would you like to begin? This was definitely one of those movies that I remember from when I was young. Warped your brain?

And I remember that the part with the snake man in it actually scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. And the fact where, like, you know, he runs through the room and it's just like, yeah, it's my father. He won't help us. He's like, you little bastard. Right.

Or whatever. And then, like. I knew that was going to be your favorite line. Well, as they leave and it's, like, got the shadow and the sound effects of the snake man, like. Eating his father and his father screaming.

Like, that always, like, disturbed me for some reason. Like how the little kid didn't even care. He's like, good. Yeah. He's like, get out of here.

That little part always reminded me of The Clash of the Titans, because you always got the shadow of Medusa, and to me it was a pretty close kind of running to that. But, I mean, this is definitely one of those movies that I remember seeing when I was way too young probably to watch it, and loved it ever since, even though it did terrify me to an extent. Definitely. As all the good ones really do. What's his name, the bad guy?

He's awesome. The real bad guy. Yeah, I mean, the one that's usually a bad guy in most movies and isn't is Max von Sydow. Yeah. Who is awesome.

He was totally awesome. Who is awesome in everything. It's funny because I just, I was sitting there watching earlier this week. I was watching, no. James Brute.

There's one. Why is he in there? Strange Brute. There's another one that, why is he in Strange Brew? He's awesome.

He's awesome. It's an awesome movie, but that's such a weird choice of projects for him. I think Strange Brew is on Netflix on the instant queue. I'm so excited. You're going to go home and watch it.

Oh, that's a great movie. That's fun. But no, he's in. shutter island and i'm sitting there i'm watching it and it's it's kind of like this one i'm sitting there watching twitter island going you got max von siddow and you got um ben kingsley it's like you know even if leonardo sucked look at these two yeah. These two on screen are fucking awesome. And then in this one we've got a max von siddow and then bob blair is uh christopher plumber yeah christopher plumber is badass in this movie yeah yeah He, and it's funny, he said this is like the other movie.

He's remembered most of the time on the street. They say people come up mad and talk to him about two movies this one and the sound of music two very opposite engines of the spectrum here yeah but it's funny that this movie makes its impression on people as sound of music wow yeah. What year was Nightmare on Elm Street? That's the one I was, yeah, a whole big area I was going to get into. No, it's 84.

It's actually, this predates it, though. It's the same year, but they were shooting this one before that because they came to them when they were going to do the makeup and stuff for Nightmare on Elm Street and said, hey, who. Did you guys use? And the effects guys were sort of like, oh we went with this and we did so he kind of helped them out and pointed them in the right direction so you can definitely feel it yeah you can and some. Of the dream sequences were very Nightmare on Elm Street and the part where he's fingers became nails.

And also, that guy has a very Robert Englund kind of cheesy. I mean, he's not as quippy, but he. Definitely has that. He throws them out there. He's awesome.

What's he say when he, well, again, spoiler, pulls the heart out. Again, this was a thing that... Yeah, he actually was quippy. Yeah, he says to our main character, Alex, Alex, have a heart, and then throws it at him. Yeah, very very Freddy through but again it totally like the nails on the hand I mean they're just blades that pop out of his fingers that's Freddy before there was Freddy I mean I guess Freddy was probably a script at this point but still they beat him to the screen doing that I'm sure they.

Were similar the same people working on both movies had to have been I mean it's just too coincidental. Especially the time period for what was available I mean people wise you. Know And it was just, it's a weird point in time for us, I guess, as movie viewers, because we had a lot of heart ripping out too. This was also the same year Temple of Doom came out with its nice big heart ripping scene. So there's a lot of hearts being ripped out of people's chests, still beating in these movies all of a sudden, which you probably didn't get a lot of that, you know, back in the day.

So this was a turning point in there. Let's play a little game. All right, it's your party. Let's pretend that a man with a little help from science, could psychically project himself inside the dream. Of a sleeping person.

Okay, let's pretend that. Then pretend that once inside the dream, he could become an active participant in it. He could actually be there, right in the middle. He could feel the dream, experience it, shape and alter the dream itself. What would you say to a motion like that?

That it's crazy. This also is one of those movies, and again, I don't think I realized it until I went back and watched it this week, watching it today, and going back and looking at some of the stuff going on in it. I've discussed it many times before, how obsessed I was with nuclear. War as a child. Mm-hmm.

You really see. And I think it's just because it was so evident. But I start to go back and look at things that I liked a lot as a kid, like this movie, and it's there. And it's not. It was in the Cold Wars when we grew up.

Yeah, it's like. It's not because of that. It just happens to be there, you know? It's just sort of like that. And I don't know.

I think that's how it worms its way into your consciousness. Or at least at that point. Again, I think kids now don't have that same feeling at all. I think they. It's probably equally as scary in a different way because now you can just get blown up at any given moment.

Or shot. Yeah. You're right. When I was a kid, like you said, 83, 84, that was the common theme when you were playing outside with your buddies. Oh, here comes the nuclear missiles.

You know. And actually, a kid, the next street over that I played with him, they actually had a bomb shelter under their house. Which is awesome. And we would play Rambo in there, you know, whatever. And that was always the plot of we'd be down inside and they had stocked canned goods.

So you already had everything there for your little war movie that you were playing. Every day turned into Red Dawn for us. Which is awesome, too. But, yeah, and I drove by there not too long ago. It's still there.

Wow. Yeah. Big mound in their backyard. Would the current owners be upset if they just found you playing? I'm having some sardines.

Come on out with me. Wolverines. We would crawl in there and play Axis and Allies, the board game. Yeah, nice. Bunk beds and everything.

So, yeah, it was just a game. Part of life back then for me you know that's it was gonna happen eventually yeah oh yeah there was no like if it was just when. That's and that's what we said before that i think so shaped this entire generation of what i still say are the reason most of us are slackers there's no point in accomplishing anything because we're all gonna die i think i think that factors in a lot more than people realize i think i'd agree with that yeah yeah i think it really sort of took and then finally we got to that point where okay the cold war is over shit. I gotta get a real job right. So you've got these people yeah you got these people like 30 something scrambling to be like oh shit now what do i do right so yeah i think it's funny that yeah it to me has more of it it's funny now looking back and seeing how much that has affected just me in general but i think an entire generation of kids and Again, it's not even like a.

Main theme in this movie. It's sort of the grand scale of. It's sort of what gets the entire end of the movie happening and sort of leads us down the path to the president. But. Yeah, not really the main focus of this movie, but it's very overbearing.

What's funny, too, is the whole thought that, and you just take it on face value, that the president, on a whim, could disarm the United States. Not only push one button to destroy everyone, but at the same time, we could completely disarm ourselves. I'm going to fly to Geneva, and it's over with. Mm-hmm. I mean, not like that.

But, I mean, it is one of those one person could put the system into play. Right. And that's what I thought this did really well is I think it also, well, I mean, it starts off, we can get back to the whole intro dream part because, I mean, we haven't really gone into that. Right. But, I mean, you get that first, like, 45 minutes of movie that's just about the dream thing.

You know, entering people's dreams and we learn about all that. It really doesn't bring in the president plot towards the end. I mean, we touch on it in the beginning and it does a really good job of setting it up, which is kind of cool because it doesn't seem forced in there. It seems like they set it up really well. They paste everything really nicely.

And by the time they bring it in, it doesn't seem because I mean, if you work in a story about a normal guy and then all of a sudden he's dealing. With the president, it could seem very ridiculous. But they do a nice job of like slowly kind of working us up to that point. And it makes sense, you know, by the end of it. I don't know it does a good job of sort of taking the basic plot line of what's going on with the dreams and then working in this this presidential plot which on its own is almost a movie like you could almost do right an entire movie whereas they're they're using dreams to assassinate the president which is.

What they're doing people yeah. Just to different well i mean and so that i think that's the part that i think once again they do a good job on is i think it's very realistic in the way that Once again, anytime our government gets a hold of something, what can we do to use it as a weapon? Because initially, I'm sure they wanted to use it on foreign leaders. Like he says, oh, this guy, you know, this guy in whatever country, insert your guy we've been trying to kill for the last, you know, umpteen years now. And we can't get a hold of him.

Well, you send some guy over there, put him in his dream, and take him out. And you don't have to physically even come in contact with him to kill him, which is what we really want. But doesn't that seem almost extremely inefficient? Like, if you're close enough to lay down and sleep next to the person, just kill him. Why did you have to develop this elaborate plot when they could have just walked in and killed the president where they were?

This is true. They could have just gave him the sedative and went. Like, especially with the president it's harder to do that a regular person yeah. You just go shoot the person i mean it happens every day. But even still the secret service were down the hall nobody they were the worst looking secret service i've ever seen too they seem very unofficial.

They didn't have the same outfits on. Yeah, that's like Secret Service. One was Burberry. You're fired. You wore the wrong color suit.

I've been lied to by the Secret Service before. I have personal beef. You've been lied to by the Secret Service? Yes. Before he was president, but before President Obama was president, he came...

To the street where I work and filmed a commercial. And the Secret Service lady... And, of course, the Secret Service people are kind of dicks. Sorry. I hope I don't go to prison for saying that.

It's part of your job. I respect it. You will get audited. Probably. But the Secret Service lady...

Like, we had to shut down for a whole day. And. It pissed me off because Obama's commercial was like, I support small businesses. I'm like, you're fucking shutting us down for a. Day, dick.

Right? Yes. Fuck your mother. Didn't mean to call the president a dick. Sorry.

I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. I don't mean it. I like the president. If an accident befalls you, we know what happened.

I'm trying to not go to jail for the rest of my life here. I'm not making any threats towards the president. I like our president. I'm telling a story. And the Secret Service lady was like, hey, since you all are standing around not doing anything, help us put up these barricades.

She's like, we'll get you all some lunch. And half the guys in my kitchen were like, okay. And I was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? You don't work for him. You work for me.

Get back here. I was like yelling at them. And they never got free lunch out of it. Scammed by the president. Scammed by the government.

Just that Secret Service bitch. Still, this is his group of people at work. But, I mean, I was, of course, outside yelling like a maniac. You didn't work for him. You worked for me.

Get back here. Once again, I wouldn't hold it against him. I would have called them government whores. I wouldn't hold it against him as long as he shows up now and, like, buys him a Big Mac or something. Like, here you go, guys.

Come on. You need to write a letter to your congressman. You shut down my business for a whole damn day. Promise me lunch today. Just send an angry email to the president.

See how that goes. Anyway. It's a great idea. Listen, you owe me lunch. Lunch!

I just want some Jimmy John's now. Apparently we just picked up a whole lot of militia listeners. Right? In Michigan, weren't we talking about Michigan? Yeah, we were talking about Michigan.

But no, I think that's what this does that it does pretty well is it sets up that whole presidential assassination plot that worked almost as its own storyline. And then I think while we're on the whole realistic government, I think that part is very realistic. The fact that this man that's in power as presidents come and go really does kind of run way more than people will ever get. And it's how our government works way more than people want to think about. But I think it's also funny that when he sees something going on that he doesn't like. this sinister bastard that he is like he really would just take steps to for the again he would yeah he would convince himself for the safety of my country i'm taking this guy out even if he's my friend and i've known him for years like poor george.

Went okay we've taken a left. Turn we got taken out poor eddie albert because he's gonna screw him over but luckily we'll get to that later Okay, but yeah, I think the presidential part was kind of cool. And the fact that I think most government agents, well, especially somebody on his level, would very easily take someone out, even his own president, if he thought it was going to keep us on the road that we are. Everyone in politics has a very set mind of where they think we need to be. Even now, even people sitting at home right now will very gladly bitch about.

The government, as, you know, sometimes we do when they don't buy us lunch. But, yeah, everybody's kind of got their mindset of how our government needs to be running things, especially during the Cold War. So something as major as, you know, disarmament of our country, I could see people taking somebody out, even a president, over something like that. So I think that part was kind of cool, too, because it felt kind of real, actually. I could see that going on behind the scenes.

Plus, something like that had to be in the film, because otherwise it could have just become a horror movie, because it would have just been individually based, these are these characters, and what's at stake for them? But when you take it to a global scale, it becomes what's at stake for everyone, and much less of a haunted house horror movie, like Nightmare on Elm Street. That's the way they differ. If you don't have the president, you don't have the. Movie that you have, a sci-fi...

Yeah, it could have changed things if they started with a different plot line midway through and they just focused on something else. It would definitely change the scope of it. It does become a huge. Thing that, like, he is saving the country, if not the world, by helping this one guy. Whereas if it was just more crazy sex dreams, you know, it would go down a very different road.

Interesting, nonetheless, but different. Definitely. I don't know if they just met up with all kinds of different psychics and, you know, in the back they mentioned scanners. And how it would have been cool if, you know, they teamed up and then had a big dream war, like a dream rumble, where they all, like, got together in one dude's head and just, like, fought it out. Oh, like Inception?

Yeah. Yeah. I really want. To see that. That's what led us to this movie.

This is our version of Inception. Which, you know, a lot of things were, I'm not going to talk about Inception, but there were some things that were pulled from Inception that had to have been. Yeah. Nolan watching it as a younger gentleman, or I guess kid at that point. Older kid, I think.

Yeah, I'm sure many times he saw this on cable, as all of us did. He used this, I'm sure you say, inspiration for the show, inspiration for the movie. I'm sure he used it. Yeah, I don't know how you could make a movie about dreams and not. I mean, assuming you grew up in this country.

Because once again, this isn't something that nobody ever saw. It didn't do well at the box office, I'll tell you that. But by the time it hit VHS, by the time it hit cable, it ran on cable constantly. So... It is one, and even now.

I mean, it was on earlier this week on Showtime. It's on Netflix right now. I mean, it's not like this movie has not wormed its way into people's consciousnesses in many, many forms over the years. So it's, yeah, definitely I'm sure it had to tie in a little bit with that. All right, do you want to go into Norm now?

Norm! Norm! Norm! I did yell that. We do meet him in a bar for the first time.

Right, yeah. Yeah, he wasn't believable as a writer to me, but I'm not going to get. He just didn't seem... I don't know if he was. Just a plot device to, hey, we've got to get this guy some information, but it just didn't fit in the movie.

I remember thinking he runs out to meet him outside of the. The facility i'm thinking why how did he get there how did they know to contact each other how did he all of a sudden show up it just it um. Happened what was really funny is when he's standing there outside there and you're like how did he get there there's also a bike leaning up against i was like okay george went did not ride that bike i'm sorry i've seen george went he ain't riding no bike around. Well then they start they start running from him it's like I'm sure Dennis Quaid would be way ahead of him at that point. He's trying to drag him along.

I mean, no offense, Norm, but you're not a track star, neither am I. No. It's one of those, it's weird, and this wasn't their fault in this movie, because when they shot this, he wasn't Norm, he was. on cheers but basically. Nobody was watching it i think it was the first season when really nobody cared about it back when you could have a show that would run a season or two and nobody cared about it you don't get that it didn't get canceled in the first year yeah instantly you get six shows now six episodes and if you're not making tons of viewers would come you know to them every week you're canceled so yeah that was back when you could ride it out for a couple of years and This network would actually get behind you.

Imagine that. But no, at that point, he was still kind of an unknown actor. So when they cast him, he was just a guy and they cast him. But by the time you watch it now, like when he came on screen, I yelled out Norm. So yeah, it does sort of, I mean, it's one of those that does sort of hurt.

It definitely did with him. It sort of hurt his career. Because he became that character. He really, I mean, he didn't have a ton of movies after Cheers started. So it's a good thing that Cheers was successful.

But at the same time, yeah, it totally killed his whole career. And John Razenberry. I mean, short of, you know, Woody. We didn't really get anybody that salvaged. He gets to be in every Pixar movie.

He's got a fun voice, but you don't have to worry about his visual. He'll always be Cliff Clavin. Yeah, he's Cliff Clavin forever. He has a show on the Travel Channel or. The Food Network.

The Made in America. He's done some stuff. He actually was in an independent movie a couple years ago. You know what I really hate? I don't think so.

That was Dave Thomas. Oh, yeah! Very close. I'm not sure how he got that job. Oh, wait, he created Wendy's.

Oh, wait. He was Wendy's. Oh, shit. It was worth a try, guys. Shelley Long had a long and illustrious career after Cheers, or maybe it was before or during.

No, it was sort of around the time. She left it to become the big movie. And then she sort of tanked after that. Troop Beverly Hills was my favorite movie as a child. It was another failed movie.

I don't know if that was enough to save her. I think everything after she left Cheers kind of went downhill. It was. The one where she was supposed to, hello again, where she was supposed to be dead. She reincarnated.

My mom loves that movie. Loves it. I've watched all those movies. I'm not going to say they're good, but yeah, I've probably seen damn near every one. But yeah, so it just being on something that popular does sort of hurt your credibility when coming into a serious project because idiots are going to yell at Norm like me.

Right. But it's also funny what, I mean, I think it was just a big plot device, but it's funny. He is, um, Charlie Prince, um, which was not even a veiled version of Stephen King. Right. I mean, even the creators come out and.

Said, yeah, this was just our little alternate world version of, he's basically playing a Stephen King character. So he was like, and even the book, when he pulls it out, looks like his used to, like that 80s run of books looked exactly like. That when he pulled out. So it's, yeah, they're just using, and again, it's something that was really huge at that time. I mean, Stephen King as a writer then probably even more than now, was, you could.

Get no bigger. He was massive at that point. Put out anything and people would buy it. Yeah, I mean, everything he did went crazy. I mean, turned into a movie, everything.

He was huge. So it's kind of, yeah, I mean, it's definitely all these little tie-ins that were tie-ins sort of because of the time they were. Now, I don't know, I guess it'd have to be like J.K. Rowling or somebody. Stephanie Meyer.

Yeah. Yikes. Do you want to share some throw up? Back to Dennis Quaid. Okay, would you like to go into Dennis Quaid?

Was it in his contract to have. His shirt off at least like 20% of this movie? I hope so. It was off all the time. He took like four showers in the movie.

He was the cleanest, well-groomed Dennis Quaid ever. This was back, yeah, back when they were making use of him. Because I actually do mention, like, the shot where he gets up out of bed and walks by in his underwear. The director or the writer, one of them specifically put that in. They were like, okay, you're in shape.

We're going to use it. So here, you're going to do this. So he made him wear that, which is pretty much nothing. And shoot that. Yeah, work that one in.

All right. They were like the colored frilly looms. There was like zero female nudity. I know. Or suggestive anything.

Well, there was a little bit of suggestive in her dream. Which I was okay with. Oh, they kissed and they hugged violently. That was it. Violent hugging.

It's one of those, it's a very, it's funny because it is like a very girly dream. Like it is one of those, it suddenly becomes a Harlequin romance novel scene. Yeah. Everything's very like smoky and they're both wearing white i mean it definitely has a very like. Girly feel about it yeah.

That was like but it's funny looking at all the other dreams about it i. Think i would get seasick from being on the train it was she was like convulsing. Sitting on the fucking train but that'd be awesome imagine how awesome it would be to Make sweet love in a train. Make sweet, sweet love in a train. They didn't make love.

They kissed and they hugged. They jumped around a little bit with their clothes or her clothes on. Well, I mean, it wasn't going to happen. I mean. She was pretty upset after it happened the first time.

Yeah. Remember, we all yelled, dream rape. Dream rape. Dream rape. Dream rape.

She needs a dream rape whistle. That is pretty creepy. Yeah. You know, if it was the. Other kid doing it, I'd be like, ooh, that's creepy.

But it's just Quaid doing it. So I was like, okay, I'm okay with this. Yeah. This does not go against my morality at all. Yeah.

She was like, how dare you? But I kind of liked it. Right. You would just wake up and be like, quit wasting your time with a dream. Get the hell over here.

Right. I'm winning. Not what you would do, Rod. Oh, my bad. I just got this really weird image of you and young Dennis Quaid.

She liked it. This is not you and Randy Quaid. Oh, there it is. The other brother. He just pulled a beer out of his back pocket.

That's the thing. I could get into. That, too. You do have odd taste in you. Shut up.

Not that odd. Jesus Christ. While playing Lenny from A Mice and Men. I do hear she likes them special. Are you talking about.

I just like guys who are jerks. I don't like guys who are retards. I was just doing the callback. Sometimes. Sometimes they are both, I guess.

But that is funny. That was something I was thinking. Well, number one, I was thinking about the young version of It Is Quaid. I'll get to that in a minute. But it then reminded me.

Young version of Dennis Quaid was studly back in the day. There was never a young, hot version of Randy Quaid. No, he always looked like that. He always looked like that. Poor bastard.

Yeah, you got to feel a little bad because they're from the same gene pool. You know, he had to grow up and be like, mother. Fuck, look at that bastard. He's like, how did, how did, what the hell? Mom, he's my real dad.

I'm going to work at it. Doesn't just come easy. Why would he become an actor? That's what I want to know. Why would you even want to do that?

He's not a bad actor. He just always looked like that, the poor bastard. So what are you going to do? I would have been an attorney. But it is funny.

That that reminded me of the difference with the Dennis Quaid. Because you're looking at Dennis Quaid was kind of like he plays it very different. Like if you gave this to somebody else, which if Misty were here, she would be thrilled to find out who the other casting choice. Their first. person that they were trying to get on this is john snyder so beau duke would have been this lead had they gotten their way i guess that i think he was working on something else so they. Just kind of their other bear their other version.

How is greg evigan and it's sad that i know that so bj and the bear the movie when are they gonna bring that out. Oh god we need to write letters. Nothing like a man and his monkey so but yeah there was I mean they bring in Dennis Quaid was their other big choice that they wanted and so but he plays it very differently than I think he would have given it to most other like leading men at this time and I think it's just because that's the way he was if you go back and watch anything and because he was like king of the 80s like I saw so many things with him and like a lot of my favorite movies at that point were with Dennis Quaid so it's like I thought he was awesome then and I go back and watch it now and he's so like he's kind of like Everything is sort of smirky with him.

He's got the very jokey thing. I think just because he's got that grin and he likes to work it into the movies as much as possible. But then it's like you fast forward. Look at him at stuff now. He can't really pull that off now.

We watched him in Legion last year. He just did the I'm kind of a pissed off old man role. He's just moved into... What was the space thing he was in? Space King?

That was Kate Capshaw. We're on the right road. No, the one that just came out this year, Pandora. Did you see that? That was about visually as dark of a movie as I've ever seen.

I don't even know what the fuck was going on. I can't hardly see anything. But yeah, that's what I said on the Legion episode. I was like, suddenly he's in everything again. He was in one movie a year for a long time, and this last two years, he's been in five movies a year.

All of a sudden, he's back. I can't think of one besides Pandorum. Pandorum. What else? He was in Legion.

He was in. G.I. Joe. G.I. Joe.

There you go. Oh, that's right. He was in G.I. Joe. Yeah, so it's like he was in all these semi-big properties of me.

All together. But now it's like he doesn't play it that way. He's really changed as a person, I guess, or at least as an actor. Maybe he's just more pissed off now. He can't pull that off anymore.

He can't be the smirky young kid anymore that he played in all those movies for that 20-year span there. He kind of pulled it off longer than most people could have gotten away with it, but... I don't know if he just came to terms with the fact that he's an old man now, or somebody finally directed him in a different direction, but he's very different now. I think if I could go back in time, I would prefer to see him as Indiana Jones. I'm not going to lie.

And I love Harrison Ford. Wow. That's crushing. I love Harrison Ford. But I would just want to see it, just to see...

The different shape. It's better than Tom Selleck, I'll give you that. Oh, God, yes. That was the original casting. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. That's awesome. That was who they originally wanted. I could have gone both ways with that movie.

No. God. That would have been horrible. He's got the wrong kind of charisma. Yeah.

I love Tom Selleck. I don't hate Tom Selleck. But I think, yeah, he's a very different performer, and you would not have gotten Indiana Jones out of him. We would have gotten one movie, not three or four, if you count that one. So, yeah, I don't think you would have had the success of Indiana Jones.

You would have had Raiders that would have gone horrible, and nobody would have. Gone to see it. Now, Quigley Down Under, on the other hand, was awesome. But he's one of those that his movie career never really took off. Like, he's in a lot of movies.

None of them were ever really big. Like, you know, at that point, he was making, like, High Road to China. Who likes that movie? Nobody. Who saw that movie in the theater?

Nobody. So. It's not like it. Again, I think Raiders of the Lost Ark probably would have just become another one of those. It would have been your High Road to China of that year.

And it would have totally tanked. And, yeah. So, Spielberg, at least you got something right. Right. Until you hit four.

Yeah. But, speaking of things he got, Kate Capshaw. So, this is what led to that, actually. Yeah. She was... in dealing with the casting, I think after they saw her in this, or it was the same year that she got cast.

Actually, I think they said she got cast, like she got the official word. She was cast in temple of doom during the shoot of this. She got it while she was on set shooting this. So this led to her becoming, cause really she wasn't a very big star at this point. She'd done like one other.

Movie before this, which is odd because she's really good at it. Like I think she plays it. She's another one of those. I noticed there's a lot of nonverbal stuff. that little like look that she gets when he reads her mind is fucking awesome. Like it said everything she could have said in that one little look.

And then like the look she gets when she wakes up and we all dream rape. Right. It's like amazing because she didn't have to say a goddamn thing. She looked at him with that look and stormed out of the room and you were like, oh shit, he's screwed. We're bound.

So yeah, she did a lot of really cool stuff in this for, you know, not being a lead role. She, she actually kind of pulls off a pretty decent performance. And then to the. Table this led her to temple of doom which she's really annoying him but you know now she's got more money than god because because of that movie she married steven spielberg so. Yeah, she can do whatever the hell she wants.

I want sleeping with Steven Spielberg's like. No, I don't. Cha-ching, cha-ching. Oh, wait. Can you imagine what it would be like to sleep with a director that probably like.

A little to the left. Right? Cut! Hold on, this lighting's off. Take two.

Let me move this lamp over here. Can we get a gaffer in here? Stunt double. Finish this out for me. I got some shit to do.

Fluffers. Oh, he can get fluffers. Don't you? Oh, yuck. Wow.

The whole. idea of a fluffer is just weird weird. Hey it's an occupational hazard what do you want. Yes so i thought you were singing a. Song i thought you were doing the right. Stuff You know, New Kids on the Block is the sound of pain to me.

That's true. I do equate New Kids on the Block and KOTB with pain. I won't argue that, actually. Unless you're Donnie, and then I associate you now only with Tom Selleck, which is just purely awesome. What?

What just happened? You've been out for a while. Tom Selleck. What were your dreams like? New TV show.

What? Yes. Wow. Yes. I don't know what that is.

I loved him in Band of Brothers, so I'm okay with this, because my dad kind of looks like Tom Selleck as well. Well, my dad circa 1985, 6, looked like Tom Selleck. That's kind of awesome. Are you going to call him fat now? Yeah.

No, now my dad looks like Eric Carpenter. Sigourney Weaver and Tom Selleck. That's awesome. This is a nice setup you got going. That's what this would look like.

And Tom Selleck. For those of you at home, you can't know that yet. There's not a picture from the site. But she doesn't have a huge mustache. I do.

I do. She just shaved this morning. Look at this. Lord, lord, lord. Oh, lord.

That's, yeah, that's the most of our cast there. We've gone through the four main ones. We can go into the kid just a little bit. The Danny Bonaduce ripoff? Although he wasn't a bad actor.

No, he wasn't a bad actor. He did a decent job, actually. Because I saw him and I had that same reaction of, ugh. Because he is not an attractive child. I'm sorry.

He's the scariest ginger child I've seen. In a while. He actually comes from a family of unattractive children. First of all, his name, his quotation name, and I always love quotation names in movies as it's running by on the screen. You're like, this is Corey Bumper, air quotes.

How do you get the name Bumper? Was he, like, pinball? Where do you get that? But I'll finish the last name, and it's sad that this was my first thought, and it turned out to be true. Corey Bumper Yothers.

And I went, is that Tina's brother? Yep. Wow. Tina Yothers, star of Family Ties. Also another very unattractive child, actually.

She had a lot of awkward moments. Yeah, and the thing is, she grew out of it. Like, I don't think she's unattractive now. When she had her rock band, which went nowhere. Sorry about that, Tina, but it did.

Yeah, she grew up and became a normal looking woman. But yeah, as a child, oh my God, she was not attractive. I'm like, what went wrong in that family? She was the Randy Quaid of that family. Michael J.

Fox, Justine Bateman, and you? Come on. Right. How do you get two? Well, I guess if you get two right, you've got to have one going wrong.

All you've got is the leftover bad genes. That's right. Me and my little brother are decent looking people, but my older brother looks like an escaped monkey. You've been so nice describing your family today. That's true.

Tom Selleck, Simone Weaver, and a monkey. And a monkey. I don't need to go to my other session this week, though. When we post your picture, can we just have a family photo? Yeah, right.

I'm going to bring in a picture of my parents and you're going to look at them and go, holy shit, it's Tom Selleck and Sigourney Weaver. I want you guys at a barbecue. Fucking Ripley making a hot dog and a monkey jumping around in the background. Magnum waxing the car. This is what I want to see.

Magnum wax. Could you get her. A paper bag? Once again, we've killed Joanie. This is the meltdown portion of the movie.

We do have one every episode it seems. She's been moved to tears. You back? Man, we're back. You play music with this thing?

That's a matter of opinion. Who the hell are you? Tommy Ray Blattman. Oh, yeah. Paul told me about you.

You're the Neil Armstrong of dreamwinking, right? Right. Just like walking on the moon. Yeah? Listen, I'm gonna put on some clothes.

Wanna go down and have a couple of beers? Why? I don't know. I just thought maybe. I know what you want.

I knew it the second I saw you. You want my secrets. No, I don't. I just want some advice. I don't give advice.

I'm in this with me, myself, and I. That's it. Sorry. Novotny gives me free reign, know why? Must be your sparkling personality.

Because I'm the only guy, Alex. I'm the only guy who. Can do it. What about Edward Sims? They had to carry him away in a basket.

Yeah, well, Novotny seems to think I'll be able to do it. I'll order your basket. Now, we did just touch on the other main character, who would be Tommy Ray Glattman. Now, is there more of a, like, assassin name ever I mean that really is gonna be somebody you're seeing on the news as they haul away assassinating somebody so it's it's not you know it's not Tommy Ray yeah his name's Tommy Ray for God's sakes he is a gunman if ever I saw one he's just in. His dream Tommy Ray.

Gun Tommy Ray Gunman not Blackman he knew Kung Fu because he saw what was it Enter the Dragon six times six whole times he makes you an expert. Which is a throwback to another Max von Sydow film when he says, I've seen Jedi 17 times when they're playing hockey. I've seen Jedi 17 times. Oh, Rick Moranis, you're funny. You're a dork.

We love you. You're a dork. Let's not even go there, people. Some of us love you a little more than others. A little more.

When it comes to Bob and Doug McKenzie, I'm right there with you. Oh, man. But no, the actor, oddly enough, also has three names. David Patrick Kelly... is fucking awesome. He's in a lot at this time period, but still, he needed to be in more.

Because I look at him in this, I'm like, why was he not the villain in every fucking movie for the entire 80s and 90s? Because he is awesome in this movie. The scene that sold me on him in this movie was when he's sitting there eating the sandwich, the close-up of him eating that sandwich and drinking the Coke and being a badass who just Spoiler alert, killed someone. And Quaid's all in his face. And he just continues delivering his lines. and eating that sandwich.

That's a good actor. He did a fantastic job. That's the one, yeah. He's just kind of creepy in the first part of that movie, but by the time you get to that scene, you're like, holy shit, this is a villain, if ever there was one. I think I'm scared.

You should be. I don't want to go to sea. Dude is fucking creepy. I mean, at first I just thought he was an annoying little douchebag. He was like, I'm going to play this trumpet.

Saxophone. Saxophone, what else? Somebody at home was bitching you. Sorry. You want my secrets.

You just lost friends. I know. Me, of all people, I should know more about. I was kind of surprised, actually, that you did. It was just a slip.

I knew that it was a saxophone. I was just calling it. Making sure nobody else had to bit it. One's a horn, the other one's a reed instrument. Come on.

We do get called out for shit wrong all the time by Naked Eskimo. Yeah but uh i was just like god this guy's an obnoxious douche i hope he kicks him in his balls or punches him or something i mean that's annoying. But once again he plays that pretty amazing too because it's consistent he never has a moment that he's not that douchebag i mean he any minute that he walks in like he just walks up behind him while he's sketching that hey what are you a cartoonist you know just everything is like and the thing is you know that jacket I mean, if you take it down a notch and a half, you've worked with that guy. You know, he's just... Oh, you went to school with him.

Yeah, it's like, you're never safe with this motherfucker. Everything you say, he's gonna turn around and, like, just be a jerk. About it, you know? He's just abrasive. You can't, yeah.

You can't have a conversation with him, and that's pretty much how he is in this. He's a jerk in every moment he's on screen. And he likes Bruce Lee. Which, again, that, I mean, the nunchuck scene is pretty fucking awesome. Even though he gets schooled as soon as he has to use them.

But the fact that he's got basically lightsaber nunchucks is fucking awesome. With little maces on the end. Pulled him out of nowhere. I would have had to pay George Lucas for that. Nah, screw that.

Because doesn't he get pissed anytime anyone uses something that looks. Remotely like a light saber? Oh, my God. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, glow sticks.

I'm surprised he doesn't go to raves and start taxing all the fucking rave kids. You owe me a dollar. You owe me a dollar. You owe me a dollar. Play school had to stop making the glow worm.

No. That's mine. Actually, you know what? I went to a rave the other day. It was sort of, well, it was more like a backyard dance party.

And they didn't have glow sticks. They had sparklers. I was like, I feel like I'm at an old time rave. It's light. It's burning.

It's burning each other. It's like 1,200 degree sparklers and we'll dance around. Come on back to the old timey rave. We're going to have some lemonade and get the sparklers out. Yeah, no, really.

I was like. I kept yelling that and no one got it. I'm like, oh, Tom Rafe! Oh, Tom Rafe! And they're like, what?

Whatever. Somebody's got a bunch of lightning bugs tied together. You kids are getting out of control. You're not going to get any cookies. Yeah, they've just got a little jar.

They've got a mason jar full of lightning bugs and they're like. Dancing around with it. They've got a lightning bug on their tongue. Old time rave. Old time rave.

Anyway. Now that would be a movie. Wow. It's just big band swing music. Actually, I don't know that that would work as a movie, but it's starting next week on TLC.

Yeah. Join us for Old Time Rave this week. With midgets. With midgets. And a girl with no face.

And one special boy. Why did we just get transported back in 1859? Because we're retarded. All right, enough of that. Let's talk about these moving pictures.

I'm going to have a huge themed party now. Huge. It's going to be huge. People are going to be forced to dress up like it's 1899 and listen to phonographs and lightning bugs and jars and rave. Dancing and stuff.

Can we get Megadeth on phonograph? As long as we can make it sound old-timey. Okay, I think we can do that. Hey, what movie did we watch this week? Anyway...

Dream Cat? No. David Patrick Kelly, fucking awesome. Yes. That was my original point.

Yeah, he's the villain in many key movies at this point. If you haven't seen Warriors, holy shit, go watch it. What was it, Warriors? If you've not seen Warriors, we have to watch Warriors. Yeah.

But yeah, Warriors is awesome. Fucking The Crow. He's awesome in The Crow. Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks.

Again, that's his more understated role, but yeah, go watch him in Twin Peaks. Yeah, he was creepy. He's creepy, but it's so normal. Because he's always so over the top, and those other three roles are massively over the top, villainous. That one, he's a very realistic guy.

He's a businessman, he's always got his own little interest at heart, and. But there's always something else kind of going on there. You always assume that he's guilty of more than really he actually is by the end of the show. But, I mean, as the series goes on, I don't think he's even all that tied to most of the evils going on there. He just always seems like he is because he's a slimy bastard, and that's why I love the guy.

So where is David Patrick Kelly these days? Yeah, what's he been doing? I'm going to have to go track him down. I don't know. But why isn't he at the next convention we go to?

That would be awesome. Oh, I don't know. I don't think I'd want to talk to him. I'd be like, no, I'd be like, dude, I bought, I bought, I brought three bottles with me. Do it.

So we've, okay. We've done all the stars. At least let's touch on the dreams here because I think that's, that's the key of this. I mean, we, we go into this, the guy gets recruited to go into dreams. And that's all just sort of build up, that first 20 minutes of setup.

And then from there, we enter into that recording studio that they call the dream area. It just looks like a recording studio. With dentist chairs in the middle of it. And then, yeah. So from there, we go into all the dreams.

So the steel worker wins pretty quick. It was just get a taste of it. Let's see, where do we go from there? Do we want to go into the sex dream? The one with the husband and wife?

There was a dream after that, though. I think the second one was the sex dream, where you, yeah, the toupee guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I was thinking of the sex dream.

Way hotter wife? No, not the, yeah. I was thinking of the sex dream with the girl. Not the train sex. Yeah, yeah.

That one was weird. This is the one with the priest with his pants down. That was more like a dream that I would have. See that? It's one of those.

I remember at the time thinking maybe that crossed the line into funny a little too much. But looking at it now, I'm just like, no, this is just a dream. I mean, you have dreams that make no sense. And the part that makes it awesome to me, and granted this is... horrible in the real world but it makes it a dream she's cheating on her husband with his brother in front of the children yeah. It's the in front of the children line.

That i was just like okay i'm sold that's pretty that's that's a dream that's a fucked up dream if ever you've. Had yeah so yeah and who was the The Asian safari guy? What was that? I'm assuming he's the cliche gardener. Because they did have a fucking huge house.

So I'm sure they also had a gardener. So of course he would have to be an Asian gardener. Because they couldn't afford a Mexican gardener? I don't know. And they do the gong when he looks at him.

And I'm like, really? It almost seemed like a. Out of out of an episode of benny hill like if yakety sax came on it would have been a benny hill. Episode yeah kind of all my dreams are like. That that's true you do hear that in all of your dreams don't you oh but yeah i mean that one you have to have one that's just sort of fucked up in that way or it doesn't seem like i mean you're you're looking at them going these aren't real dreams that one's a real fucked up dream you're like whoa okay and And I like that just basically his fear in his dream is that everyone is screwing his wife.

The priest like crosses him and he's like, I don't worry about it, I'm Jewish. What's that even important? Why aren't you kicking everybody's ass right now? There's just too many people she's screwing. They cut back to the office where they're discussing it with Quaid and Max von Sydow and they're just laughing at him like, yeah, he thinks everybody's fucking his wife.

And they are. And they are. More than likely. I mean, where else would all that deep-seated fear come from? Probably she's on the side nailing people.

Well, if you have a toupee, you obviously can't perform in bed. And you've seen that guy. I mean, it's not like he's really like, you know. How he even got that wife, I'm not really sure. Whatever.

He had a sweet fucking suit. I would do him. You get a nice car and a nice house. Speaking of dreams, did I ever get to discuss my Don Knotts dream? I don't think you did on here.

Online, we discussed it. Don Knotts, huh? I just want to get this out. Since we're in the middle of dreamscape, it's not that far, so go ahead. Okay.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a dream for some reason. I don't know if I was his publicist or his friend. There was nothing sexual going on, but I was. Living in an Airstream trailer with Don Knotts, Airstreams are sweet. Yeah, this is awesome as far as I'm concerned.

Between Andy Griffith's show and Ghost in Mr. Chicken, I would assume. Probably closer to Ghost in Mr. Chicken era. That's a decent time frame for him.

It's not Mr. Furly years. I was thinking Scooby-Doo and Don Knotts. No, that's about the right time. That's late 60s.

Yeah, late 60s Don Knotts. And every morning, he'd wake up really early in the morning. I left this part out when I was describing it online. But I'd have to turn the shower on for him. And get a towel for him and lay out clothes.

And then he would take a shower at like 5 in the morning. And he'd be like, alright, let's go to Denny's. Let's get some breakfast. Let's go to Denny's. So every morning, I would do an Airstream trailer with Don Knotts.

And every morning at 5 in the morning, he would beg me to take him to Denny's for breakfast. I'm going to have to get a publicist to turn on my shower. I can't find the towels. It was awesome. He shoots himself in the foot somehow.

Yeah, my dreams are pretty sweet. As long as he's wearing an ascot. I think he would be the perfect sidekick. In general. Yeah, come on, let's go.

I've been looking for someone who's a lot like Don Knotts my whole life. Yeah, I can see that. I do. I can't argue. Actually, what's weird, just to fill in, again, total side note, but the other day, and most of the time, my dad and I have totally different movie tastes and never have any sort of tie-in, but the other day I was massively impressed...

And reminded me that he is, in fact, my father when he quoted The Ghost and Mr. Chicken. You know, that is one of the movies that me and my mom have in common. Yeah. Well, that doesn't even seem like his kind of movie.

I mean, you've seen my dad. I was just like, where did that come from? Nor does it seem like a movie my mom would be into. Yeah. It's everybody loves don knots that's.

The moral they grew up with him i guess. Or finally your dad was like i've got to connect with brand i'm gonna drop a movie line just so that i can connect with him i can't remember anything okay it goes to mr jake we did that. Back in the day we found like the quotes. I mean most of the the stuff that i'm into like stemmed from stuff that he liked it's funny that like he grew out of it but i didn't like as he got older, he didn't care about it as much. I got into it more and more.

He didn't plan on moving out of it because we were going to have a nuclear war. That's true. So why would I bother having grown-up interest? Fuck it. I like dreamscape.

Just like when it came out. Yeah. But I think I may have already mentioned this too, but I just need to reiterate how horrible and sad and creepy this is to me. Like, every night my mom, because I've had to stay there because my electricity's been out, she'll be. Like, our man's on TV!

And I'm like, oh God, who's she talking about? She's talking about my name is Earl. And I'm like... Damn it, I really do actually love Jason Lee a lot. Hell yeah.

And I'm just like, me and my mom, we have. A man together. Like, we share love for Jason Lee, and that is sad. Me and my mom have one of those. It's, and mine's sadder, because at least yours is Jason Lee.

Mine's Randy Orton from WWE. Yeah. But he's so big and buff and hot. Are you sure you want to say that out loud? Yeah.

This is being recorded. Once again, I am Marlena. Yes. Wow. Good save.

That was like flaming a fart on the dog. And then there's someone listening to it. Oh, she foiled me. Who is it? Was that Roger, really?

I think it was. Wow. Alrighty. Hello, Tangents. Yeah.

Let's at least get back to the snake man. Right. Because that is an essential part of this. So, Yeah, snake man. I kept thinking layer of the white worm.

I think, but only because I read that not. That long ago. He's not white or a worm. I know, but neither was the worm. It was like a big snake thing.

Oh, you know, the shadow when he was attacking his father, I thought it looked a lot like Randall from Monsters Incorporated. Yeah. And I thought, well, maybe they, you know, because it was the one monster that this little girl was afraid of. I thought, well, maybe when Pixar, because Pixar has a pretty good background in movies. I don't see how they, you know.

Not that that was completely intentional, but it could have been. It very well could have been. And just in general, all of them sort of draw from stuff that they liked when they were younger. So, I mean, I can see even if it's not 100% here's our joke, it's just like as he's drawing stuff, it may have crept in there either way. Right.

And Beetlejuice, the part in Beetlejuice where he turns into the worm. Yeah. Kind of reminded me of that. Kind of, yeah. The animation's kind of the same.

Yeah. It was. It was the same time period. It was right there, a couple years ahead on Beetlejuice. You know, it wasn't that bad.

No, I mean. I mean, it looks cheesy now, but the thing is, I'll take any of that over bad CGI. I will tell you, I mean, as low tech as a lot of that was, because they even like couldn't afford the, and I'll get to that. I mean, for what they did with the money, I think looks pretty good, but they couldn't even afford like a full on transformation scene. They did like.

The version that they do is basically they modeled five or six heads and then would jump cut between them so you see a transition. But it's not a full transition. It's just those little jumps along the way. So that's how low-tech this version is. And yet, to me, it's still pretty cool, and I'll take it over bad CGI any day because it's just...

There's something to that when it is actually somebody physically making those heads and the models. And by the time it gets to the stop motion version of the Snake Man, it's fucking awesome. I love that part. Even if you go back and watch Harryhausen stuff, gosh, it looks cheesy. But comparatively, and I know it's not CGI, but you can see that somebody actually took some, more than others, but time with it.

And I don't know. I'm sure we probably beat that like a dead horse, but... Well, but I mean, it really... I mean, that feels. Especially you look at something like Harryhausen did, and that looks like it is an art form.

I mean, you do give him credit for something amazing, whereas... programming the CGI stuff? Does that feel like... I mean, I know we're entering into that weird gray area of when does art done on computer mean it's still art? It is a weird question that people have been saying for a while now. We talked about this with the artist last week at the show.

If using Photoshop counts as art. That's a question that ties into the movies. Does CGI. still a special effect, like a visual effect that, you know, is the same type of art form as molding mask. And, you know, is, is it the same thing? I don't know.

I mean, not exactly, but as we progress, maybe we'll have to start looking at it that way. Right. Because I think it looks, I mean, if you look at what we did that. You know, into the eighties version of like blue screen and where we are with green screen now, it's kind of jumped quite a bit, and there's a hell of a lot more that we can do. At some point, it could be kind of viewed as more of an art form as you get further into it, and we kind of know how to do it a little better.

Yeah, I mean, as long as there's a sliding scale of good, you know, with someone that can say this is good and this is bad, it has to be an art form. There are people that are better than the others, as long as it's not a Completely technology-driven thing. If that looks good because they can pay more to do it, that's not art. But if when you take two people with the same materials that can pull that off. then you can decide which one is the artist and which one isn't. So I just don't think we have enough or enough time yet.

Yeah. And in the end it becomes like apples and oranges. I mean, it really is like there are levels where both of them are good and bad, but it's like, you know, saying a great painting is the same thing as a great sculpture. They're both art, but they're very different. So I'd say that with like stop motion versus CG, there's levels where they're both going to be amazing and they're both going to suck, but they're totally different set, you know, separate things that.

Haven't been said. The stop motion animation on the snake man in this awesome. Any stop animation is awesome. Any stop animation, even if they did it today, even when they do do it today, is awesome. It's one of those you look back at stuff, and yeah, they just hardly ever do it today, but when they do, it's still pretty awesome.

It just has a very specific look to it. that i mean maybe it's just nostalgia once again maybe it's a generational nostalgia thing and kids years from now will look at it and think it's just like you know it's. We remember you know we remember old-time rage we remember harryhausen like we still remember harryhausen. A lot of cute stuff So I don't know. I mean, the snake man is awesome. And I think that is probably what people remember most about this movie.

I think those scenes are really freaking scary. I think even now, I think that especially the, the, well, both of them, I mean, most of the dreams are sort of normal, but yeah, the, the kid's dream and the president's dream at the end are fucking creepy. And like, not just because of the snake man, but I mean, you look at, especially like the kid's dream, The kids' dream, it's even the visuals of everything. It all kind of has that Dr. Caligari look to it.

The staircase, the doors. The doors are all crazy slanted. The windows. Everything is set up with this weird, kind of askew look to it. There had to have been just about a ready-made set that they went into that on.

I don't think all of that looked like it was designed specifically for the movie. I don't know. I don't know what the budget was. But it just had a, you know, unless they spent a lot of money on that. May have.

Yeah. I don't know. Like I said. The budget actually was, and this to me is kind of impressive, a five and a half million. Really?

That's pretty. For the amount of visual effects of a movie alone. For something that's, yeah, like an adventure special effects heavy kind of movie with tons of visual effects thrown in, you know. For the time period and for the materials they had to work with, I think it looks damn good. Right.

I mean, granted, it's going to pale a little by movies today's standards. If you've never seen this before, you're going to notice a difference. But, I mean, for $ 5. 5 million in the 80s, this looks pretty damn good. Oh, yeah.

So there was one part where they were in the president's dream where they walked through one you know rubble area yeah and then they walked back through it and they walked back through it and i was. Like oh but but again you have to give me magic you have to give them credit because that still played like the world and because the. Way they wrote it Yeah. They were, yeah. See, I don't think I was even paying that close, but yeah, they, the way they wrote it was like, it really was supposed to have huge visuals of like cities and ruins and all of that.

And they had five and a half million. They couldn't do that. But to me, it still plays like that. You still get the feeling that the world is destroyed by, And really all they have is a couple little scenes that they throw rubble in, but they do a good job of kind of conveying that through what the visuals that they have. It's like The President's Dream where it's like going through the rubble and it reminded me of Terminator, like kind of the miniature that they made of the world destroyed or whatever.

When he opens the door and the kids come pouring out or whatever. Which that one was terrifying as hell. That seems really creepy. Yeah, because you hear the kids and their voices are kind of disjointed or whatever. And then all the irradiated, melted children come out of the door.

They splice in the stock footage of the... nuclear bomb testing yeah they made it red so. That it all went together that it worked but again that stuff i think almost i don't even know that they were like working that in as like stealing stock footage and putting in there like to me that was almost more of like this is what we're drawing from like this this is the touchstone of where everybody gets these fears from and i think if. It's his if it's his dream that's what that's the fuel that he probably has in his brain. To and that's that's the way we all see that i mean these are these are the only images we have we don't have current footage of that because they're trying not to blow it up all we have are these bad 50s test footage from like out in the desert somewhere um So that's kind of like, in all of our heads, that's the version of what a nuclear blast looks like.

And Indy was in the refrigerator. And he was. I don't care what anybody says. That part was awesome. Oh, my God.

That part was hilarious. I'm like, dude, the refrigerator. You're a genius. We'll never watch the Crystal Skull. If you haven't seen it, we'll never watch it.

But he survives a nuclear blast by getting in a refrigerator. And it throws him like miles. It's like a 50s refrigerator. Those things were fucking indestructible. The fall would have killed his old ass.

I have a Kelvinator in the other room, damn it. It still survived. Shia LaBeouf would have saved him with his motorcycle. With his goofy head. His what?

Butt. Oh, Shia LaBeouf. I like him. I love him. I like Shia LaBeouf, too.

He's so cute. I would take off his pants. I wouldn't go that far. I would probably shake his. Hand while you were disrobing him, and he'd be like, what?

No, double teams. I caught you off guard. Now you can't get away. Wow. Get him, baby.

Get him. I just want his pants. Sorry about that, Shia. If you're listening... I'm not.

He would probably be totally down with that, too. Because he's... My number's 502. And her name is. 365-5565.

There you go. That's her number. Call her right now. Oh, God. Tangent once again.

So, I mean, those are the big dreams right there. The one with the kid. The staircase is awesome. The staircase is really awesome. Which somebody online I heard referred to as a disembodied staircase.

It is kind of disembodied. Yeah. There's no structure to it at all. Disembodied? Nothing.

It's just free-floating in that black area, you know? Which, again, ties in quite a bit that level of dream. And I think this is one that I wanted to get to that... I think this is what separates it from, like, Nightmare on Elm Street. Because as much as I really like Nightmare on Elm Street, the first one in particular...

I think all of those dreams are really grounded. Like, they're very reality. Yeah, it's like, I'm going to have a crazy dream. I'm out on the street in front of my house. Okay.

That dream made me feel like the Twilight Zone movie in that house where the kid controlled everything. Yeah, like that. The shit was just wrong. Everything was wrong. It's not really basically sort of reality.

It's like staircases and doors don't make sense. The most basic of things don't make sense anymore. So it's just like, It's really kind of disembodied. And that's, and that's the, I mean, that to me is what works in there. Like these feel like real messed up dreams.

As much as I like Nightmare on Elm Street, to me. It's just like. What do my dreams feel like? Others. Yeah.

Well, they're just, it's so normal other than when Freddie comes in. It's like, there's a few key moments they throw in. Oh, look, the sheep ran by. But, I mean, for the most part, I'm in the hallway at school. Well, I mean, every day, half the other shots in this movie are you're in the hallway at school.

So, I mean, they don't really take it off on a weird area. There's weird things thrown in, and that, again, might have been budget reasons. Because as they go on, I mean, if you go into the sequels, they get into those weird, like, fucking. Turning into a car or motorcycle, whatever the hell he turned into. Tree board.

The soul pizza i mean those get weird dream bullshit but those are also when they became kind of stupid i still like freddy all the way through the run but the movie's got stupid let's face it so i mean but i mean that first one they're they're just a little too too real world where i think this actually plays really well at being like Very dream world. It is one of those where things don't necessarily make sense. Things don't necessarily look like they would normally look. Like the dad and the kid's dream just randomly sitting at the end of the table. Apparently it's the same dream over.

And over again. Could be. He's like, don't worry, he won't help. Or just like the guy on top of the building with the sky doing that weird thing and the clouds going by. Yeah, dreams are always one-off.

I just know whenever I'm dreaming, it's like I can be somewhere that's familiar, but something's just skewed a little bit. Yeah. And that's where I think this kind of gets it right, especially going into Nightmare. They never quite embraced that. And because I think what they were really more worried about doing was Nightmare and every other movie that goes into Dreams pulls this.

Hell, even movies that don't go into Dreams pull this. You're already in the dream. It is a dream already. You wake up from the dream and you didn't know you were in the dream. You're not even watching the movie right now.

At least they never, yeah, at least they never. Yeah, they never pull that in this movie. It's very obvious when you go into a dream, you go through the crazy dream tunnels and you get there and like everything is fucked up and weird and then you come out of the dream and it's normal. It is a very different experience. Yeah.

Where every other movie. Not even dream movies just in general I mean how many movies can you think of that like and you wake up and oh it was only a dream that whole last five minute scene that we had to sit through was bullshit and never really happened this movie never pulls that it's an entire season of Newhart yeah what's that the entire series no the entire series yeah there's an entire season of Dallas there's an entire series that is Newhart. And the last season of Roseanne I think Pretty sure. I just tuned out after John Goodman left. Even before that, those last couple years just started to really suck.

I can never get into Roseanne because she just pissed me off all the time. I just wanted to yell at her and be like, be a. Nice person, you stupid whore. No, she's mean. The one thing about Dreamscape that I hated when I was a kid, that none of the three versions of the Snake Man coincided.

First Snake Man was Snake Man with the snake head. Second iteration that the guy turned into, it still had like a human-looking face to the snake head. And then when, at the end, Quaid pulls his face apart, it's like this blob of green mass. It doesn't even make sense anymore. I'm like, did you all run out of money?

But you know what? It's all three different people's vision of the dream of the Snake Man. But as a kid, I hated it. I wanted the first Snake Man over and over again because I loved it. I was thinking that, at least between the first and the second one, because the second one is the Tommy Ray's.

Impersonation of what he thinks the Snake Man is. From the drawing. Because he never even saw the Snake Man. So, yeah, that one I understand. And the third one I can actually tell you because I heard them explain what happened.

And they did a version of the head... monster and it was the the makeup effects guy and the one and the guy that did the hands that attack him and somebody didn't like it i don't know if it was producers or like a test. Audience like change that shit and. He the guy who did it's like i like that one better really and that's the one he did but i guess still he was like i kind of like that one better and then someone else came in and did that little effect which does look pretty bad it does look bad compared to the rest of the movie but the hands that go out and grab them are it cuts to the first version because that's the main makeup man. Those are his hands. He's actually doing that.

So the only thing that looks really bad is the head, and that was somebody else. No wonder. I give credit to the main makeup guy. Oh, Tommy Rave. And I think there's even sort of a reason for the face.

I think that was one of those that they wanted to make it look like it was Tommy Rave. As the snake man like i think they sort of. Wanted you yeah to know that he was in there so they almost modeled the snake's face after david patrick yeah it's and i do like that when he changes back and he's like half snake man and then and then that was creepy that was creepy. There's an episode of supernatural i think it was i think it's have we watched that one yet the one where they're in Skeeter's dream. With Snake Man yeah where he's being attacked constantly by his wife yeah it's.

In season 4 of Supernatural for those of you who give a shit um and they go into this kind of like Dreamwalking, that's what they call it, which obviously. Is a throwback to. You have to take peyote, basically, or mushrooms. Mushrooms to do it, which is obviously a payback, or playback for this, kind of. Because you're on mushrooms.

Well... Because they both had, like, sync up. I would not watch this on mushrooms. Oh, my God. Snake Man would blow your mind.

Right? But they use. There's this one Tommy Ray-type character who's... realize that he's great. At this, like, getting into other people's dream, and he can. Do whatever the fuck he wants.

So they, you know, gets him to do their dream, and Sam and Dean are all badass, they're fighting him. And how do they beat him? Daddy! Brings his dad back and apparently beat him in the head when he was little and made him not be. Able to dream anymore.

Yeah. That's a rip-off. Almost exactly. As much as I kind of like Supernatural, they were never the most original show. So many of their plots were just ripped off from movies that they condensed down to an hour-long version and then jammed.

The two of them in. Which is, yeah, I mean, it's... It's still a fun show. They do a decent job at it. They do.

At least it's not shabby. It's not bad, but it's just... Shabby? Did you say shabby? I did say shabby.

That's awesome. So many times I just feel like, oh, it's like, insert movie here. Whatever movie of the week they decided to do. I kind of like their little arcs better when they do the whole fighting the demon monsters. Yeah, I like them.

He's going to hell. That was at least kind of original, that version of it. I'm just talking about it because I want to watch it now. It's their little one-shot ones that are always just ripped off. I like it when they're talking about hell and he's like, yeah, Hellraiser pretty much got it right.

Got it right. Except for the patent leather. Yeah. There you go. I love Hellraiser.

My obsession for Pinhead. Pinhead, if you're listening, my number is. And my name is not Marlena. And I'm not Marlena. We can find you, Doug Bradley.

He's at all these shows. Yeah. I don't know if he'll... Well, he might wear the makeup for you. Can you do prosthetics for me?

How about the guy at the film... The film festival. That kept pulling up his outfit. I heard about that guy. Which one?

The pinhead guy. Oh, yeah. And he kept pulling up his skirt in front of us. There was a big fan there. There was a big turbo fan in front of us.

And everybody had to stop. But he would just be like, we're sitting there with nothing to do. And he's waving his joke at us. What? Into the whole costume going I wore.

A dress to that and the air conditioning was broken so there are these giant industrial fans so every time I'd walk around I'd have to like hold my skirt down because I'd have I had like at least 40 to 50 Marilyn Monroe moments like where my skirt. Just blew up now picture Pinhead doing that wow waving his junk. Happy birthday Mr. President sweating Wow. Yes, please.

Yeah, you at least held yours down every time, unlike that 14-year-old girl. Ew. That's a whole different story. I mean, I try to keep it classy, and it doesn't, I always wear, like, leggings, so it's not like, even if my skirt blew up. Over my head.

So, yeah. Eddie Albert's pretty awesome as the president. We do, you know it's an awesome movie when the president gets to kill a man. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. And almost effortlessly shoves it through his chest. Again, it's a dream, and it was his dream, so I guess if he wanted it to be like gelatin-like, just straight through. So that's the thing I didn't like, the fact that the president was like, whoa, I am in a dream. What the fuck did you change things then?

Make it sunny. Take those dogs away. I don't know. I like those dogs. Make it so that you can actually run, old man.

I don't know. And not jump and fall down and almost kill yourself. I like the that one scene where they're going under the rubble and he like touches something and it gets a spark on it and then the dog like runs by and brushes it and like automatically gets all fried. And disappears so it's like a live wire or something yeah this is dream logic things are different right. And then he kills himself that's kind of cool.

That's what always happens right before you jump across the glowing green river yeah. Of slime or something? I don't know. Again, this is all dream world. Toxic waste from mountains.

Which, again, is what I think is key about this movie. It gets these weird dream things, and they don't have to make sense. Your dog can have glowing red eyes. It can be a green slime river. That's just the way it is.

You know, that and the snake man is probably what works best. In this movie. Any final thoughts? I love this. Movie yeah I'm just really glad to get to see it again like I said the last time I saw it I was probably 6.

7 that's why you're messed up now. That and many other things like. Tom Selleck and what's her name And a train. And a train on its way to Louisville. Right.

Once again, Louisville gets a lot of 80s shout-outs. I totally forgot about the one in this one, but it's like we had that whole span of, like, you know, Return of the Living Dead and this movie, and, you know, we got some Stripes action. So, you know, in the 80s, we were almost cool in Louisville. You have to take an Amtrak to get to Louisville. You can't fly there.

We're pretty huge. Right. Right we've got amtrak running straight through it's massive and straight to churchill down yep that's what happens and then you go there and cheat so in wrapping up everybody's gonna remember the snake man and everybody's gonna remember the crazy staircase and that's cool i mean it offers all these great visuals but the thing i noticed this past time watching it and this is something that's kind of subtle and kind of awesome so if If you want to give it a little more credit for something, this was kind of my favorite part. The first time that Alex meets Bob Blair, he's actually strapped down into the, what looks like a cat scan machine, but it says x-ray above it. So Bob Blair walks in and he starts giving him his dialogue, but I'm sitting there watching it and when.

Does he meet him? He meets him when he's completely strapped down, can't move anything. So initially, right off the bat, we see Bob Blair is in control, complete control at that point. So right there, it shows you the situation. Bob Blair has all the power.

Bob Blair likes having all the power. He likes being in control. And when he enters into a situation, when he meets someone, when he sets up their entire relationship, he likes to have the power. He likes to be in control. Now follow that up with what's the next thing that he does as he starts talking to him?

He looks over his shoulder. He realizes that the door is open somewhat. He goes over and closes it as he's delivering the rest of his dialogue. So that's the other thing that tied in. He wanted to make sure no one was listening.

So right there, he likes controlling information and. He doesn't trust anybody. So all of this stuff is said without actually having anything to do with the dialogue. They're sitting there delivering dialogue back and forth, but you've got all this information. Basically, everything you need to know about Bob Blair, you find out right there in that couple of minutes.

And it has nothing to do with the dialogue going on. I thought that part was really impressive and kind of shows you. there is a level of subtlety to this, and there is something put in there in character development that could get overlooked and. Sort of overshadowed by the crazy special effects. I think that's kind of a cool element that this shows that there's a little more to this movie than you might think initially. Night swimming deserves a quiet night.

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I know you. I know you've seen her. She's a sad tomato. I was scarred as a teenager being pushed over by my fake brother at a show and landed. On the floor with my skirt.

Hiked up. Hiked up. Business and showing the world. That sounds like your fake brother. I was there in an assembly in high school in front of the entire fucking school.

Wow. I fell. That's the day Olive Oil County High School realized, oh, you didn't wear underwear. She became an instant hit. She was an instant hit.

I'm a high school celebrity. Thank God Facebook didn't. The Homecoming Queen and everything. Yeah, that's... Forget Facebook.

Cell phones with cameras would have been your enemy for the. Rest of your life. Yeah. You would have been across the interwebs in about two seconds. I was a freshman, too.

Ooh, four years of hell. Like, I was young. Meat to those bastards. Anybody who went to Bull County High School. In the years of 2000 to 2004, screw you.

Did they give you a nickname for that? I had a few for a while. I was just curious. I've blocked a lot of that shit out. I'm trying to remember one of them.

Just always drawers was funny. What? Drawers. Draws. Panty Pirate was one.

I don't know why Panty Pirate. It's high school. High school because they're not because they're alliteration yeah you wouldn't actually be a panty pirate you would have been hit by one perhaps wouldn't actually be one yeah yikes. Maybe we should just go straight to my next session after this. We've already started you're well into it It all starts with Tom Selleck and no panties.

As do most of your dreams. As do most of my stories. Well, let's see. This one time with Tom Selleck and no underwear. And then we were on a train.

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Next week will be another movie, and like normal, we'll continue on. And we've decided to go with Fright. If you're not familiar with it, 1971, the granddaddy of all babysitter slasher movies. That's kind of how it's billed. I'm interested to watch it, so it'll be kind of cool to see what's going on in Friday.

The first of the beginning of the series that is a babysitter versus maniac. The wave of babysitter movies. Oh, Lord. So the next week, we won't even bother with a specific movie, as far as I know, because we're going to be heading to Chicago. We're going to be going to the Wizard World slash Chicago Comic Con, whatever the hell they're calling it this time.

And yeah, we're going to be there. You'll get more coverage of us probably making fun of people, which we had a little bit of positive feedback on that, but I'll save that for the party responsible for most of the smart-ass comments. So Yeah, I feel like us, you know, with our usual, well, Randy did say he went driving around in a car making fun of people. We will be in a car. I'm going to have the microphone.

We can probably arrange that. We should. I'm sure it will be us at the convention doing a little bit. We may do more of the fun hotel version of the show we did last year. That was kind of fun.

That was fun. That was possibly the first of us going to sleep. We should do an elevator this next time. Just carry all the equipment with big, long extension cords. I'm going to ride around in a car and yell, Hey, want to take a ride on my disco stick?

Just for Randy. Yeah, he did seem to be pretty excited about that. I know. I'm sure he's using that line all the time. I know.

All right, so that will be the next two features. We're figuring out the next one. Whatever we get back, we'll come up with that at some point. But in the meantime, go get yourself a copy of Fright and then just be prepared for our craziness in Chicago. Anything else you guys have for the show here?

I like those photograph records for Old-timey rave. Yes. And get a hold of all of the sparklers you can find. Steal them from children. Yeah.

And lightning bugs. Catching lightning bugs. Like sparklers and snakes. I think this should become a yearly event and it should happen sometime this year before it gets really cold. I agree.

Next year. How do you mix photographs? Like, how do you do that? I don't know. But that would be fucking amazing.

That would be awesome. You have to get a really old guy to do it. I'm going to, I'm actually, I'm going to. I'm going to get on this. This sounds like an amazing idea.

It sounds tight, yeah. I'm willing to help coordinate. But if it ever happens from here on this day, we started it. People just stole our answers. We have it on.

We can be the hipsters that are like, man, I was there. When that started. I was there at the conception of. It, man. I'll be like the forecastle guy.

Could be. I mean, I remember when he was standing in the park, Tyler Park, with like 10 people around him. I was at that one. Now I don't want anything to fucking do with it. Fast forward like four years and he's making a kajillion dollars with Smashing Pumpkins.

I want to catch you in booking Zooey Deschanel. Yeah. Which came to town, didn't talk to me at all. Bitch. What's that about?

No, don't call her a bitch. You take that back. She was supposed to sit in with us that week, though. What the hell's her problem? She'd be a great guest.

She could have watched, like... Her eyes are just so big. We could have watched that happen. We could just watch her bleep. We shouldn't do that.

That'd be so cute. She's got the prettiest voice. We would annihilate her movie and she would be unhappy with it. No. But you were so cute in it, Zoe.

It's okay. You're so cute. Tell us about Marky Marks and more. Did anybody on set not see his penis? Let's go with the better question.

Every woman in America. Did you get to avoid his penis? Was he doing the Hellraiser thing? Was he in front of a fan most of the day? Yep.

Actually, I was standing in front of a fan the other. Day and some guy was like, stood beside me, and he was wearing shorts. She goes, ah, it feels so good in my balls. It feels so good in my balls. That's when you look at him and.

Go, mine too. And he slowly inches away. Let me reiterate, I did not know this guy. I had never seen him before. He just comes up beside me and stands in his balls by the face.

That's my opening line. If she's okay with that, I'm in. I don't know how I didn't go home like that. I would have been like, oh, hi, I'm Joni. Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you. And you're bald. We'll be going back to your place now. Your place? I'm the panty pirate.

Nice to meet you. We're bringing the fan with us and heading on back. Yay! Good to have you. Sometimes Joni shouldn't talk.

I forgot about that. still trying lord let's get the hell out of. Here okay musically. If you haven't noticed the theme well this week's movie was probably the first time I came in contact with the weird occurrence that is rapid eye movement. So I thought musically we would follow suit rapid eye movement yeah. Yeah So, otherwise, that about does it.

We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Thanks, guys. Oh, I am.

Oh, my God. Welcome. On top of things. Now that you've punched in, you can go ahead and punch out. I was like, I'm trying to.

Think of something. I'm looking for an interruption. You were looking to dig my dreams. Be prepared for anything. You were coming to my little scene.

Hooray, hooray, hooray, hooray. There's one thing. I can guarantee. You won't have to dig, dig to the deep. Say, leave me today.

Touch me deep. Thank you. You look and drive my. Dreams You hear throughout my screams You come, deliver my demons Hooray, hooray, hooray, hooray You come and ease my headache Do you feel good now? Am I good enough?

I don't know, I guess so Some medicine for my headache. Hooray, hooray, hooray, hooray. I'm pitching for a new direction. Pinch me when I wake. Don't tell me my dreams are fake.

You leave me late. You touch me deep. I don't sleep. I dream. That's my dad, but he won't help us.

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