Attack of the Horror Finale Songs!

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It's time for Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killers soundtrack. The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final hour of hell. What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killer soundtrack. I am Brian. And I'm George.

And we're coming to you live via digital recording from the Oddity Studios for another soundtrack episode, but specifically, since last time we referenced our big love for end credit songs and... We were already leaning towards a lot of horror when we, as we said before, decided let's just go ahead and lean into it for a whole episode. We are back for a very spooky episode for our Halloween fun. So spoopy. Of end credits songs, big finale songs, anything to round out your horror movie, we're going to throw it in the mix here.

That's right, yeah. Got some fun stuff here, I think. But for that, just to ease our way into the Halloween season, number one, I busted out the Legos. Ah, yes. So this time we have a spooky old house that we've decided to investigate.

I love it. And of course you were like, okay, we can go there, but we got to at least stay on the path. I was like, but look at that house in the moors over there. And then I ran over to the moors and then look, now there's a werewolf coming out of the bushes to attack. So my god i.

Obviously have led us astray. You know every single time you want to go to the moors and there's a werewolf let me let me check this house here i mean let's do you know somebody's trying to board up the windows but it's been a very lazy job here because they only use like one board i mean that's all you need you know uh the roof looks like it needs some some severe replacement here it's falling apart yeah so it's a definitely it's a fixer-upper but uh Of course, the werewolf's kind of back there, so we've got a little bit of room to run. If we know it's coming. If not, it's just going to pounce. Well, I've got to tell you, I'm kind of a fast runner.

I'm not, I found recently when I had to, and it was not a good thing. I've realized, oh, I used to run a lot when I was young a million years ago, and then I haven't even attempted in so long that when I needed to. I went, Oh, I can't do that anymore. So, I'm werewolf food is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.

Well, my height brings me a lot of advantages. Like, I take one step for every, like, two or three an average person would take. So, you know, again, yeah, you're... Sorry, dude. I just have to be faster than you.

Unless there's two werewolves, then we're screwed. That's true. I know somewhere I have at least one, if not some other one. So, I can work them in the other bushes on the other side there. But.

You're listening to us describe this. I will post at least one, if not a couple of photos of this little adventure that we're having on Facebook. I love it, though. Maybe there's a werewolf on top, like on the roof or something. I've already pounced on it.

There's definitely a ghost in the house. I know that. Oh, yeah. Okay. But, yeah.

So, I hadn't done a full-on Lego holiday theme since last year's holiday festivities. So, I thought I better... Build a fallen down house and give us some sort of adventure to get into. I love it. Or maybe we have to run into the house to escape from the wolf.

And fight off the ghost. I don't know how much physical action this ghost has. We haven't decided yet. I mean, you know, iron and fire are best ways to take out a ghost. You know, if the ghost has something, you know, an attachment to something, you burn that and you're good.

Or, you know, if a ghost is coming at you, a nice iron chain or a fire poker or something like that, man. I mean, if we're making a horror movie, we have to grab the fire poker. Well, yeah. I've started making a list of movies that do that because it's so cliche that any, if not a horror movie, any horrible goings on in your family, some sort of a husband cheating on you movie, like, Take your pick. Any number of movies, you're going to grab the fireplace poker and somebody's going to get smacked in the head with it.

It's good for a blunt object, but if you're dealing with the paranormal, specifically ghosts, spooks, specters, poltergeists, iron and fire. I learned all my monster hunting stuff from the Winchester brothers. See, I'm more old school. I learned everything I know from Scooby-Doo. Well, Scooby-Doo didn't find anything.

They ran from stuff. And that's exactly the point. Although we have to make the bongo noise when we get ready to run. That's true, yeah, yeah. And our feet kind of have to stay in the same place for a minute, which is why the werewolf will catch us.

And I can get down. On those sandwiches that Shaggy and Scoob make from time to time. That's true. I mean, sometimes there's too much chocolate sauce mixed with your pickles, but yeah, whatever, you know, you just try it. You never know.

Sometimes it'll come out all right. Yeah. So, Legos is one, it's a newer tradition, but the oldest of all traditions for the Halloween episodes. Uh-oh. Gotta bust out the, oh man, some Halloween candy here.

What do we got here? Oh, we got a pumpkin pie Kit Kat. I wanted to get specifically, not just random, you know, fun size Kit Kats, but one that you can't pretend doesn't have something to do with Halloween. Now, whether or not anybody wants them, I've realized, normally not. But I'm like, well, that's good, because then I can just give them away.

I can be like, here, go over to see the kids on Halloween and be like, those are nice costumes. Here, eat this stuff. Nobody else wants it. So I kind of like those, but I feel like a little goes a long way on those. Yeah, I'm glad they're the small size here.

But yeah, you're right. It's not bad, but it's definitely like... It's interesting, yeah. I mean, it's like a crunchy pumpkin pie, because you got the wafer thing there. But yeah, I don't hate it.

And, of course, the Reese Cups. You can't go wrong. And they have special little ghosts and stuff on the wrappers. Oh, that's awesome. You can't go wrong with Reese Cups.

And that is new. In many years, I've discussed the Ghost Bowl. I think I found it recently, and now it's reshuffled back into the mess. So I normally have a tiny little Skull Bowl. I ran into that recently.

That is a Day of the Dead Skull Bowl that I thought was really nice. So, yep, that's what I went with this year. Day of the Dead. Far out. Yeah.

Of course, we got our household decorated up. We have these new remote control candles. They're like, you know, they're battery operated and whatnot. But yeah, you hit them with a remote, man. It's like, those are awesome.

So we got those in our pumpkins out front. I've got a few things. Sad thing is I usually end up buying like my normal household items for the entire year in October. I've got a new coffee mug. Almost every year I'm like, ooh, a mug with ghosts on it.

Yes, I need that. So I've got one of those sitting in the kitchen there. um i also i'm getting this weird table at the same time found this weird little drive-in that's haunted that is now sitting on top of it so i love that that's cool i was like that's kind of cool it's it's got palm trees and an outdoor drive-in setting but it's also got little ghosts on the screen and a bat so it's a nice halloween tie-in for for also being a movie geek so excellent i like that um yeah. I haven't really you know purchased any like you know decorations and stuff outside of what my wife has got, but comic-wise, there's been a lot of cool horror stuff come out. Most notable, especially for film fans, is the Night of the Ghoul series.

The first issue just came out a couple weeks ago when we were recording this thing here, but our creative team is writer Scott Snyder, who's a superstar writer in comics, did a lot of Batman and tons of other stuff, and then artist Francesco Francavia. which, you know, of course, you may know him best from, like, a lot of the afterlife with Archie and Jughead the Hunger. Like, basically, when they do, like, the darker side of Riverdale, they call Francesco, because Art, like, has a throwback kind of feel to it, but he does horror so well. Nice. But the plot of this one is that, basically, Night of the Ghoul was supposedly one of these lost horror movies. Like, it may have gone up in the 46th Universal Fire, you know, like, you know, London After Midnight and Man Who Lives, that sort of thing.

Yeah. So... Anyway, so this film fanatic, he and his son find this very out-of-the-way old folks home that turns out the director of the film has been living there in secrecy for years. And so the dad goes and talks to him, and basically it seems like there's a very strange, weird conspiracy about this movie and why it was destroyed, not because of the reason. Maybe it was for a sinister purpose.

Maybe the ghoul is actually real and kind of like, Basically, the ghoul essentially was the reason for all the folklore that created all the monsters. Like, basically, it would drain people's... blood and so again that was blamed for vampires or it was you know would cause this sort of sickness that was blamed for zombies or it would do this and this and this and you know so it's like it seemed like maybe the ghoul was the ultimate monster this could have been the ultimate movie but maybe the movie was a. Warning patient zero of all monsters. Yeah uh but yeah just the art is amazing the story is very compelling And it's really cool, too, because Francesco's art changes when we're doing flashbacks, looking at the film, to when we're back into the modern day, talking from the dad and the film director.

Of course, the film director does not look very good, so it looks like he's perhaps maybe a burn victim himself. Mauled by the creature. Something. But yeah, there are some sinister things afoot. So I believe this is like a three-issue series.

But after the first issue is released, Warner Bros. is like, hey, you know what? We're going to make a movie out of this. That is? Yeah. So it's...

Will they then purposely lose it to make it all come full circle? That's a good point, yeah. I feel like not, because that's not a good way to make money, but, you know, it would be interesting to pull that maneuver. But, yeah, it's a very, very cool story. Like, it's just the first issue.

It's like, I got you. You got me in. Yeah, I'm good to go. Well, that does sound cool. Yeah, I rarely get around to reading comics anymore.

As much as I like them and grew up with them, it's, yeah, it's... Too many other things. I can't keep driving. And you would live in the vicinity of two very nice comic book stores, being Great Escape and The Zone. Most of my childhood was spent trying to convince somebody to go to Great Escape because I couldn't drive yet.

So I was just like, I need to go somewhere. Why it became such an ordeal each time, I don't know. You'd think eventually they'd be like, all right, come on, let's go. They just know where I want to go. But trying to lure someone to take me to the Great Escape was most of my childhood.

Yeah. Growing up in southern Indiana, the Great Escape, I wouldn't even know about it as a kid because that was Louisville. Louisville seemed like a foreign country. But we had a Walgreens for a while. And then somewhere in the mid-90s, there was a sports card store popped up that sold new books.

And to compete with it, the Ben Franklin also sold comics that was kind of nearby. But then like a proper comic seller came. came in and bought the sports card store and turned it into Empire Comics, which is still around today. Get these sports cards out of the way. Well, it literally was. It was like, we sold baseball cards, other sports memorabilia.

Oh, yeah, by the way, over on this wall, here's some new comics. It's comic book guy from The Simpsons, basically. Well, yeah, kind of, but maybe it's still like it was. Here's my Android comic books, but oh, yeah, we've also got baseball cards over there. But he would get more things than the Walgreens.

The Walgreens would get the top ten Marvel titles. You just had the spinner rack. Yeah, exactly. The one we had up the street was the same thing. I'm like, look at this Teen Titans.

Everything I got was one issue because I would just wander in and be like, what is this? Again, you don't get... At least back then, I don't know. Eventually I got to where I was into series, but. In the beginning, it was just like a comic book.

This is great. And they kind of wrote them that way on purpose. Yeah. It was kind of like Marvel. DC kind of started a little bit first with kind of the summer annuals they would do where they would get like the Justice League and the Justice Society together and do like a little multiversal crossover thing.

And it was just a one-issue annual, but they would keep referring to those annuals throughout the other years. Like, oh, yeah, I remember last year when we had to fight this and this. And then a little asterisk is like, see? See? 162.

Oh, my God. We'll get 162. Yeah. And so then Marvel also kind of in the 60s is like, well, we're going to do a continuous story. They did the Kree-Skrull War, which introduced Captain Marvel, the OG Captain Marvel, before Carol Danvers came in.

But, yeah, so there's always– it was mostly like an issue-to-issue sort of thing. Because of the fact that they knew the kids weren't getting each and every issue. They were just getting the ones they could find on the newsstand. It was a very different world back then. It really was.

And now you've got comic book stores. If you can't find the issues, it's because you don't have a subscription file with your favorite store. So, you know. You're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong.

And they got the apps. A lot of most stores have the apps now. So, it's all convenient and high tech and stuff like that. I mean, it's. Come on, folks.

This is why I'm out of the loop. But being the kids that we were, super dorky, into comic books, we were also into these horror movies. Yes, we were. And as I was going through, it was like half of these tied to that era or the era right after that with a few for me. So yeah, this is a nice mindset of how we got to these horror movies and our horror geekdom.

Yeah. Yeah you're right i mean my list i have two movies that are in the 2000s other than that my movies are entirely in the 80s yeah yeah which i. I figured and then i was going with some newer ones and then fell back and did older stuff as i went so yeah it's it's all rooted there. But it's interesting that we're you know of course talking about horror movie uh you know like ending songs and kind of like this is like the cap to you know the movie and kind of like sometimes you know like Again, the 80s just seemed to be the heyday for songs written for movies. Didn't matter what movie it was.

I think it's also because that didn't happen before much. Like, you know, you had tons of old scores for movies from back to, you know, once we get out of silent film from that point on, you have people writing a score for a specific film. We have a ton of stuff. Even like 70s, we start working in kind of pop music along the way, but not a ton of like, This. Is a big deal.

We're going to make this happen. As you get to Butch and Sundance, you've got a song that's tied specifically to a scene. It's got a very heavy crossover there. But that was the kind of thing that would be thrown in every once in a while. The 80s just ushered in a whole new era of this is a new type of film we're making now, especially in horror.

And we've got all these rock stars that are just hanging around. Not that they don't have anything to do, but they're also... half the time big horror geeks so like they want to be involved in these movies so it just brought with it like sort of hand in hand here's this specific song that this dorky rock star wanted to make for your dorky horror movie and it all just comes together so yeah i think that's why there's such a push because it was like a new thing we decided oh we can do this yeah hell yeah we're gonna do this. Yeah but yeah you're like you with the exception of like the musicals like the 40s through the 60s that was really your only movie genre that was you can depend A connotation like your westerns.

Shane had a song specifically written for the movie. But yeah, they weren't, not all of them were pop songs. The 60s kind of ushered that in. Like you said, Butch and Sundance, Midnight Cowboy. But even then, it was very singer-songwriter.

It was the music of that time more so than by the time you get to the 80s, it is the music of its time as well, most of the time. It is, yeah. I mean, this was just like It just seemed like a golden era. But the interesting thing is that every now and then you'll see modern movies. They don't so much have a song written for the movie, but they just really cleverly do one.

And since we're talking horror movies like one that's in theaters currently is Barbarian, which I won't say anything about the movie because I enjoyed it thoroughly. But the less you know going into it, the better. Uh, so don't stop watching the trailer. Just go buy a ticket and go check it out. It's fun.

It's creepy. It's great. Uh, but they, the usage of be my baby, uh, will kick you in the pants. Uh, it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's great. It's just, it's genius ending to it.

And yeah, but yeah, it's awesome. And I love that. Sometimes it's, it's just a fun song and they tie it in, in a specific way. And other times it's, oh, this is so well put together from your dorky filmmaking side of things, where you were like, you were sitting at home writing this movie, going, and I'm gonna get rights to that song, and it's gonna just really cap it off at the end, and like, that's, I've got at least one of those, if not several, that that's how they happen. You know?

My two modern days definitely are, this is, you know, the songs that were, the filmmaker or producer or somebody picked those specifically for this movie to end the tale with, but The majority of the songs I picked were, if they weren't covers made for the film, they were definitely written for the film. There are a lot of covers. Yeah, we did do one. And that's what I was trying to decide with this too. We did do an episode many years ago that was horror covers that were just in general, just cover songs.

And, um, so I think there's, there's not much crossover with that one. I'm actually avoiding one specifically, but, um, There's a few I think we're going to work in anyway. Because I was like, I don't know. I've tried not to do tons of the same song over the years, obviously. But at the same time, when do you not listen to a song more than once?

When do you not get together with your friends and listen to, I really love this song, and you play it? That's what we're doing. And it's also been years on many of these. So if we play one again, eh, deal with it. Or if it's a favorite song of yours that you normally have in your playlist, or you...

It's a song you only want to listen to around on Halloween or whatever else. Yeah, whatever else. But there's so many general just random pop songs that I like. And now because I put it into whatever I'm– usually it's a streaming thing. And I'll put it in.

I listen to the same songs every damn day. They're just on in the background. I'm not paying that much attention. But I'm like, eh, we listen to songs more than once. So we'll throw some extras in here along the way.

That's right. But I think we've got some nice variety here. Yeah, we're definitely mixing it up. But last time we bounced back and forth. This time I thought you've got a lot of specific themed movements.

So we'll just let you. knock yours out and then I'll round it out with whatever, whatever you haven't already covered. All right. Well, Basically, one, I got to start this one off the top because I championed this movie. I don't know if I'm alone in this or not. I'm sure there's got to be other fans of this movie.

But before the trick or treat that was done in 2002 that we all know and love, the anthology movie, there was trick or treat that came out in 1986. I saw it. Again, I didn't go to the movies a ton at that point. So most of what I saw was cable. And I definitely saw it on cable that year when it came out.

And again, I think even at the time, I appreciated the stunt casting more than anything. I mean, it's goofy enough that Skippy's in there. We talked to him about that movie years ago, so that's how long ago this was. I'm jealous. Oh, Mark.

Anyway, but yeah, the fact that they work in Gene Simmons. Mm-hmm. Being super cool Gene Simmons. God forbid he not be, you know, cool. More impressively to me was not worried about being cool is Ozzy Osbourne who plays the exact opposite.

He plays the priest. He plays the priest and he is the dorkiest priest trying to keep down rock and roll because it's evil. And I was like, that's great stunt casting right there. Yeah, that was perfect. Yeah.

You know, the funny thing was that as some of the casting goes in this movie, originally for... the Sammy Kerr, the dead rock star come back to life. Originally, they wanted Blackie Lawless from Wasp to play this character. Which has the look. I can see that. He absolutely has the look.

And he was totally on board until the producers told him, oh, we're getting fast way to do the soundtrack. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like, you realize I have a band named Wasp. That's kind of what I do. I can do my own damn music, thank you very much.

And so he said, see you, bye-bye. And Fastway wasn't any bigger than Wasp. Like, that's a weird... I would dare say at the time Wasp was bigger than Fastway. Yeah, I was like, to me, I don't think I knew of Fastway until I'd seen that movie and went, oh, that's an actual band.

Okay. Like, but I knew who Wasp was. Like, that's weird. Yeah, yeah. Of course, like this movie just, it spoke to me on... numerous, numerous levels because I was a metal kid.

Was, you know, picked on because of my musical taste at the time when everybody else was listening to LL Cool J or whatnot. And I was way into Ozzy and Kiss. So this movie spoke to me on numerous levels because I was a bit of a Motorhead fan too. I knew that basically like, you know, oh, this guy, the lead kind of the guitarist for Fastway and who part of the band was named after. He was originally in Motorhead, so this is his band after he left and whatnot.

But yeah, interestingly enough, the lead singer of Fastway, 20 years later, goes on to form the band Flogging Molly. So yes, Dave King. Odd move. Well, Dave kind of like basically got very fed up with the American rock scene after Fastway kind of dissolved. And they had like their little bit of fame and then it petered out and The band broke up.

I kind of jazzed like, yeah. So he got very discouraged about the American rock scene and moved back home to Ireland and then started getting back into music and then slowly but surely formed his own band and now Flogging Molly has been more famous, I'd say, than Fastway ever was. But it's so funny, like, you can still hear his voice. He doesn't have as high of a register that he had in his youth, but you could still hear the voice, but he lets the Irish brogue come through a lot more. Every now and then, fast forward, the way he would say a word or sing a word, I'm like, what the hell is that pronunciation?

Did he use some weird Irish immigrant? But then I found, oh, he's Irish. Okay, yeah. The way he pronounced the word truth or something like that, I was like, truth. But yeah, so they...

Again, they want to use the music for Fastway. Blackie Lawless says, no, thank you. Bye-bye. I can't blame him, really. That's not cool.

And so when they approach Gene Simmons for the movie, they approach him to do the Sammy Kerr role. It's like, nah, I don't really feel like doing that. But I like this DJ character over here. Interesting. So they do that.

And then they end up getting solid gold dancer Tony Fields. To play Sammy Kerr, who's not a metal guy. He's got the look, though. Well, he had the hair. Again, you create, but just like that persona, too.

Like, you can see him doing this very showy frontman thing. Yeah, that's true. And it works. Like, yeah, I can see him being in a metal band at the time with that little... Song and dance that he put together there.

Sometimes literally. But it's so funny that basically if you knew going into this movie that originally it was written for and going to be Blackie Lawless, you look at Sammy Kirk and go, oh yeah, that's just a cheap knockoff of Blackie Lawless. And it was. But I mean, again, I love it. I listen to the soundtrack on a regular basis.

I see the movie at least once a year. But for me, my first thought of any time a horror movie is ending from the 80s, like, all right, you better have a good song in it. And the gold standard for me is always After Midnight. Because the soundtrack was great. You have your opener of Trick or Treat, which is a great song.

And it's strange because the whole– I think it's like ten songs in the soundtrack. Two of the songs barely appear in the movie. And the band had previously written them for other albums. So like eight of the ten songs actually written were written for the film. The one song, Tear Down the Walls, which if you remember the movie is when Skippy's really mad, and he's literally tearing all the movie posters down off the.

Very subtle. Very subtle, yeah, on the nose there. And that song is about a minute and 30 seconds, so it's literally as long as the scene. So this was specifically written for one scene in the movie. We need a filler here for about a minute and a half, so go to town, guys.

And it's literally about a minute and a half of them just yelling, tear down the walls. Tear down your posters, Skippy! Yeah, but yeah, I would love to talk to Mark Price about this movie. I really would. But I was always amused, too, that basically years later going, like, oh, this movie was directed by Charles Martin Smith.

Now, if you don't know that name, if you're familiar with The Untouchables, yes, he's the little accountant dude that gets killed in The Elevator. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of weirdness that comes together in that movie. But this was his directorial debut. It's also, it was to me, I think, part of what was weird about it was...

You're naming it Trick or Treat, and it's not really a Halloween. I mean, it does take place on Halloween, but the Halloween part is so minimal compared to the metal stuff. Whereas you get to Trick or Treat, who had to adjust their name, and it's 100% a Halloween movie. And there is actually Trick or Treating in the film. Yeah, it's about Halloween.

This one just, it happens to take place on Halloween. That's a good time to play our song, blah, blah, whatever, but it's not a... halloween movie as much as a look at our cool metal movie and like so yeah i always thought that was weird that they went with that direction for the name and so much of the advertising and marketing when it's like that's not really the kind of movie it is surprising yeah. But yeah i see it but it is a movie i change yes i know. It's not good I enjoyed it when we went back and watched it for the show. It's pretty fun.

Yeah, it is fun, but it is nowhere near a classic. But you know what? I love the hell out of it, and I hope you do, too. Better run, it's a wrecking fire Nowhere to hide, I'm gonna hunt you for the night, yeah You got it, I want it Pretty soon it's gonna change your skin now So keep knockin',. Keep rockin' I'm gonna.

Get you, get you after midnight, shock you, shock you till the sparks fly. I'll get you, get you after midnight, shock you, shock. You till the sparks fly. Trouble, like you've never had before. Guns won't free her, gonna justify her score.

You got it. I want it. Pretty soon it's gonna change you now. So keep knocking. Keep rocking.

I got the, I got the, here's the cream. I'm gonna get you. Get you after midnight. Shock you. Shock you till the sparks fly.

Get you. Get you after midnight. Shock you. Shocking till the sparks fly. Sparks fly.

I keep knocking. I keep rocking. I got to, I got to hear you scream. I'm going to get you. Keep knocking, keep rocking I got the, I got the, hear you scream I'm gonna get you That's right now I'm.

Gonna get you. I'll see you next time. My next, this is the group here, my first group I want to bring up. Nightmare on Elm Street kind of took the ball with the whole let's get a rock song to end our movies and ran with it for like four films straight. And just made a whole soundtrack.

I think they were kind of on the forefront of that let's put together a soundtrack to help counter you know promote this thing like they had an entire like definitely by the time you get to three like one and two we're busy being you know we're trying to push ourselves out there as a new horror guy this is our new slasher and that did a good job with that but by the time I got three they're like alright we've got that covered people love Freddy Krueger we know that we can we can just ride it out now on that end of it but they wanted that extra you know avenue of like how else can we market it how else can we like get Other, especially, I mean, that's the era of MTV. So it's like if you can shove a music video on there that does kind of a miniature version of your movie, there's a ton of kids that just went, well, now I know what I'm doing this weekend.

I'm going to go see Dream Warriors. And like, that's a perfect example. Like it's. Part of the movie and yet they work in the band and it becomes its own other thing like it's not exactly the scene from the movie it's not just a music video with the band it's a mesh of the two that makes you go well now i need to watch that movie and like it was a great marketing. Scheme or if you know who the band is already and you're a fan of the band that's going to bring you to the table even further so for nightmare on elm street part three dream warriors we got docking which at the time they were very much on the forefront of pop culture and the pop charts.

I like. And dread the lonely nights I'm not alone I. Wonder if these heavy eyes could. Face the unknown. Together We're the Dream Warriors Don't wanna dream no more We're the Dream Warriors And maybe tonight Maybe tonight you'll be gone I hear the voices calling out Calling.

My name It's the same. Desire To feel the fire That's coming your way I'm standing in the night alone Forever Together Maybe tonight you'll be gone with a dream warrior. Break the spell. Evolution. Found together.

Waiting for you. Dream warriors. Don't want to dream. No more. We're gonna dream.

And maybe tonight, maybe tonight you'll become King of WarioWare. I was already there. Yep, I had. I had. Back for the attack yeah well that was after that i had under lock and key i think i had that for breaking the chains was that the tooth and nail tooth and nail yeah i definitely i had most of those on cassette ask your grandparents what that is kids um so.

No no kids know today they they know it's retro now yeah it's retro super cool for tapes now crazy yeah. Yeah i have seen them selling them at like shows and i'm like really yeah this is where we've come yep we're back yeah so yeah i i definitely was a a dork that was into docking so i i'm not gonna pretend like i wasn't and i was already into freddy i'd seen the first two and was like this is the best thing ever these two things that i love have come together and and dream. Warriors i would argue is still a good song i really like again i liked docking in that era specifically like those couple albums they are pretty solid as that that type of band. Again, real metalheads will give you shit for liking them, but I'm like.

For the type of band that they were, they were really good. George Lynch is a hell of a guitar player, so it's like, you put together all of their pieces and you get a really good band. Yeah, and see, that's the whole kind of The double-edged sword for metal fans is that we want to shit all over Dokken, but George Lynch, we recognize, is a hell of a good guitarist, and we're glad he left the band. I'm like, well, Don had a pretty damn good voice, actually. Yes, he did.

He was kind of like... If Iron Maiden was too scary for you, then here's Don Dokken. Yeah. Because, you know, interestingly enough, Bruce Dickinson is also on this list here. But we get to part four and we get to Love Kills from the Dream Master.

The credit goes to Vinnie Vincent's Invasion as the band, who Vinnie at the time was formerly a guitarist for Kiss for a whole album. and then was fired because he's an egomaniac. And kind of rode that the rest of his career. He absolutely rode that. He will be the first to tell you. He was in Kiss.

Yes, yes. He was there. But like a lot of seasoned metal guys that didn't sing, they would grab up-and-coming singers, and then those singers occasionally would go on to form their own bands. Case in point, the singer for this song is a very young Mark Slaughter, who... would later on form his own band. Seems like I've heard of that guy.

Yeah, form his own band. cleverly named Slaughter, which is really, it was an interesting name for a pop metal band, because they didn't sound like a slaughter. I mean, they had the look of your normal metal band, and Plus, he was kind of pretty. Oh, yeah. So that helped them on their videos. Oh, yeah.

He's a good-looking dude, yeah. But then on top of that, they, like, advertised themselves. The albums looked like they were full-on metal. But, yeah, you listen to them, and they're pretty poppy. Yeah.

Yeah. But, yeah, so they– and I love– Love Kills, I think, is a great song. And, you know, yeah, Vinnie Vincent's a crazy ass, but you know what? He can play guitar. Yeah.

So long since I've waited to live again. You've brought my world to an end. Love takes its victim and leaves its remains. My broken heart is. Done in vain.

Tell me why have we forsaken the dreams we had? Can I love you tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa, love kills. The fire's gone, dying in, but still remains.

Whoa, love kills. And now you're. Gone, could I never be the same? Without your love, life seems so dead and so unreal And now there's nothing left. To feel Someday.

We'll meet again. Oh girl, that much I know And now this kid will say hello. My lonely, lonely soul. For sorrow's trepid haze Please let me go Oh, you're killed The fire's gone tight Yeah, but you remain Oh, you're killed And now you're. Gone Girl, I'd never be the same.

Thank you. Whoa, Lock Hills, the fire's gone, dying embers will remain. Whoa, Lock Hills, and now you've gone, girl, I'll never be the same. Lock Hills, and love is just a dying ember in the rain. Whoa, Lock Hills.

Somewhere I have that. And again, I'm not a vinyl person. I've said that many a time on these soundtrack episodes. I, I, Now I like it for the weird stuff you can find. But at the time, it was like so going out of style.

Again, cassettes were cool, man. Vinyl, that's what your parents listened to. Lame. So occasionally you could pick stuff up super cheap. And I remember I got a cutout version of Nightmare on Elm Street 4's soundtrack that I had.

And again, I had my one piece system, if you will, that had a record player on the top and then dual cassette. and a stereo, and it was like the coolest thing ever. So I have listened to that Vinnie Vincent song on vinyl a long damn time ago on that stereo system that I still have, by the way. The volume's jacked up, but I hooked it back up recently and was like, I can listen to stuff on this. Not cassettes, because every cassette you play from that era will be eaten immediately. But I was like, I did have an input.

I jammed my CDs in when I was moving into the Next Generation, thank you very much. So, yeah, I still listen to that stereo. And I have not played that vinyl in quite a while. And at this point, I think it's lost. It's somewhere in a box with my LaserDisc.

It's exactly where it is. This has been Grandpa Talk. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah, this is old media meltdown here. But as I said, like I said, we had like four movies in a row where they did...

Well, actually, not really in a row. I can't remember what they ended... uh freddie's dead with but uh for part five this is an inspired choice even though it was strangely credited to only bruce dickinson even though this is technically an iron maiden song but bring your daughter to the slaughter for nightmare part five the dream child. Speaking of slaughter but not mark. Honey, it's getting close to midnight And all the myths are still in town True love and lipstick on your linen Bite the pillow, make no sound And there's some living to be done. Before your life.

Becomes your tomb You'd better. Know that I'm the one Unchain your back door. Bring your daughter Bring your daughter To the slaughter Let her go Let her go Let her go Bring your daughter Bring. Your daughter. And it's getting close to daybreak.

The sun is creeping in the sky. No pain remedies for heartache. Just empty words and humble pie. So get down on your knees, honey. Assume an attitude.

You just pray that I'll be waiting. Cause you know, you know what? Bring your daughter to the store. Let her go. Let her go.

Let her go. Bring your daughter. So pick up your foolish pride. No going back. Nowhere to wait.

No place to hide. Bring your daughter, bring your. Daughter to the slaughter. Bring your daughter, fetch your daughter. Bring your daughter, fetch your daughter.

Bring your daughter, fetch your daughter. Let her go, let her go Bring your daughter, bring your daughter. To the sun Let her go, let her go, let her go Bring your daughter, bring your daughter to the sun. But yeah, I love this song too, being a Maiden fan. But yeah, later on, I think for New Nightmare, Goo Goo Dolls had a song, I'm Awake Now.

But I can't remember the song. Listeners have to clue us in on this one. They have to look up what the song was for Freddy's Dead. I know it was somebody, but oddly enough, they didn't pick Alice Cooper, even though he was in Freddy's Dead, playing Freddy's Dad. Which leads me to my next group here.

Because Alice himself had himself a trio of not only film appearances in a very short period of time, but also soundtrack appearances to horror movies. This is the perfect example of my intro earlier of somebody who is not just a dork themselves. Which, Alice, I love the man. but he's super dorky. Oh yeah, that's why I love him. And yeah, as time went on, I was like, I liked him as the cool, you know, gothy guy that he was, but the reason I loved him even at the time was like, I remember watching him on The Muppet Show and I'm like, Alice, you're a dork and I love you for it.

So as you got further in, of course he's the guy that wants to cram himself into horror movies. He loves horror movies. I want to be myself in a horror movie if I can. And why we didn't get like a whole series of Alice, you know, like Elvira. We need like, Alice, you know, old-timey Hammer movie, and then Alice, the fish-out-of-water movie.

Well, if you go on his Facebook, he's got these little videos he does from time to time. I can't remember the way they call them, like Alice's Scary Stories or something like that. And there are these little animated things, and it's him telling a spooky story, but it's got nice music to it, the animation looks cool, so it totally works. I'm like, I would love a whole show of these. But yeah, so if you go on his social media, he posts those from time to time.

Like Alice's, I can't remember what the official name for it is, but yeah, but. It's something I need to look for. But yeah, I got the pleasure of meeting the man a few years for the pandemic at a convention, and it was a highlight of my life. I think I was at that one. Yes, you were.

I saw him. I stood next to the table, and I was like, I'm pretty close to Alice Cooper. Actually, he did walk past while we were loitering around somewhere in the aisle by the Rocky Horror People. He just was like, hey, excuse me, and walked right past. I was like, that's Alice Cooper.

Yeah, I paid for signing in a little conversation with him, but he was very talkative. I brought up the Muppets thing because I told him, like, yeah, I loved your music as a little kid, but I'd never actually seen you before until the Muppets, and then you scared the shit out of me, and I couldn't watch the episode for years. But then when you pop up for this particular movie, Friday the 13th, Part 6, Jason Lives... Our man is back. That's right.

The man behind the mask. You're with your baby And you're parked alone On a summer night You're deep in love But you're deeper. In the woods You think you're doing alright. Did you hear that voice? Did you see that face?

Or was it just a dream? This can't be real That only happens, babe On the movie screen. He's back. He's the man behind the mask. And he's out of control.

He's back. The man behind the mask. And he crawled out of his mind. You're swimming with your girl Out on Lover's Lake And the wind blows cold It chills your bones But you're still on the make. That's a.

Bad mistake Ah, but the moon was full And you had a chance To be all alone But you're. Not alone This is your last dance. And your last romance. Yeah, cause he's back. He's the man behind the mask.

And he's out of control. He's back. The man behind the mask. Oh, if you see him, come and get away if you can Just keep. On running, run as.

Fast as you can He's a dangerous, dangerous man And he's out tonight, and he's watching you And he knows your house Don't turn out the lights Yeah, cause he's back He's the man behind the mask And he's out of control He's back He's the man behind the mask And he's after your soul He's back He's the man behind the mask And he's out of control He's back The man behind the mask And. He's after your soul. He's back. I threw this out and i will just give the because if you didn't get to it i was gonna have to throw it in because i i rarely do i get a chance to tie in with other cast members but i specifically last time sat down with with the uh the rest of the horror gang i was like okay we're doing soundtrack stuff so if you want to and uh Nobody really had anything that they were dying to do.

I was like, we can record something if you want. And they were like, no. And then Philip was like, the only one I can think of is the man behind the mask. So that was also going to be Philip's pick. Nice.

Thank you. Credit where credit is due. Thank you, Philip, for also throwing that in there. But I figured you were probably going to get to it. So that's why I was like, I'm sure we'll be playing that.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is a song, again, I champion this. I champion it more than I do the movie. Well, that's the thing.

I was never a huge Jason fan. Right. But I, again, this came out as a music video before I even saw the movie. And I was like, this song's pretty awesome, actually. Yeah.

And that was a weird era for Alice because he was getting way more popularized. And like, I think that whole album, even you get something huge like Poison, but I'm like, that's a way more. radio-friendly song than his 70s stuff. It's a different era of Alice Cooper. Poison came a few years later after Man Behind the Mask. Actually, if we were doing this chronologically, I would have talked about Monster Dog first.

Yeah. Because that was kind of a poignant film in his career because in 83, his label had dropped him, his career was at an all-time low, his alcoholism has gotten worse, and so he finally decided to get himself sober. And so basically, he was out for almost a whole year just away from music, away from everything, and... Once he was sober and out of rehab, he got approached by this film company. He's like, hey, you want to do this shitty werewolf movie?

And we're going to do this in Spain. And no one's going to see this outside the Philippines. I was like, no one's going to see this thing. So he's like, you know what? That sounds like fun.

And he was totally on. He knew this was going into it. It's going to be a crappy horror movie, not a lot of budget, whatever else. But he's like, you know what? I would love to do a crappy horror movie and just get back to work.

You know, work sober again and just see what that's all like. And, you know, he had a... Some of the other actors didn't have as good of a time on the movie as he did. But everybody always said that their experience working with Alice was very positive and pleasant. Yeah.

Even the director. Like, the director apparently was this crazed dude. Like, he chased off some crewman with a shotgun because he screwed up a shot at one point. So everybody was afraid of the director, but everybody loved Alice. Sounds like a great film set to work.

But he had done Monster Dog in 84, but the movie never actually saw the light of day until two years later. When initially it was released overseas and then it finally made its way to the U.S. on VHS. But it went through a bunch of different names. I think in Italy it was named like, gosh. It has nothing to do with dogs or monsters or.

It's like, you know, annihilation or slaughter or something along those lines. You know, just one word thing. But, yeah, I mean, it is a crappy werewolf movie, but it's got a couple of fun twists. But, yeah, Alice plays a rock star in the movie. The two songs he recorded for the film were literally like he was given, I think, three days.

That's when the best stuff comes together. And he didn't have his band with him because they broke up. So it was literally like these were demos he recorded in the hotel and they made it to the final film. The demos made it to the final film. Well, I'm assuming they're a relatively independent production.

Yes. You just roll with that. And the funny thing was that the majority of the budget for the production was to hire Alice as the actor to do both the songs. I can see that. But of the two songs he did for the film, my opinion, the best one and the one that still kind of sticks around for Alice fans is Identity Crisis, which opens and closes the film.

Because the movie opens with, like, you get, like, a couple, like, you know, title screens real quick with some spooky music. And then all of a sudden the music kicks in for Identity Crisis. And, of course, it's a very strange period for Alice because it barely sounds like Alice singing. Yeah. Because it's kind of a different style.

It almost kind of sounds like it's like a Lou Reed, David Bowie kind of experimental kind of song. Which I can see him coming from that place, but yeah, later it's weird to come back to that sound. Yeah, but it's a very interesting sound to it. ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶. ¶ class this is. I don't need a face, cause mine's been erased. Identity class this is.

Sometimes I'm on a case. Sometimes I'm shooting bad dudes. Sometimes I'm slashing the face. Sometimes I'm looking for clues. Breaking the law Sometimes I'm solving the crime I'm always fast on the draw I get the goods all the time.

Cause I got an image out of. Control Identity crisis is I throw it in the face Cause mine's been erased Identity crisis is. Sometimes I'm James Bond. Sometimes I'm Billy the Kid. Sometimes I feel like Sherlock Holmes.

Sometimes I feel like Jack the Ripper. Cause I've got an image out of control. I can't really cry and sing. I throw it in the face, cause mine's been erased. Identity crisis is.

Now I got an image out of control. Identity crisis is. I throw it in the. Face, cause mine's been erased. Identity crisis is.

You know, sometimes he's James Bond, sometimes he's Billy the Kid, sometimes he feels like Sherlock Holmes, you know, that sort of thing like that. But the video is very much like a literal on-the-nose, here are the lyrics I'm singing and here are these... I've. Seen the video, I do know the song. Yeah, and literally that video is the beginning of the movie.

Yeah. It is also the end of the movie interspersed with clips of the movie you just saw. In case you dozed off or something. Like, oh, here's this thing you probably saw a few minutes ago, but maybe not. Yeah, if you were not paying attention for the last 90 some odd minutes, here's a little recap for you.

It's always an odd choice when they go for that one. It is. But, you know, it's like, yeah, we got a couple of good songs and he's not going to officially release these. So, you know, we're going to make the best we can. So, uh, but yeah, like I said, but yeah, I love it.

Like the whole purpose, like he's going home, uh, back to the middle of nowhere where he grew up in or something like that. Uh, and oh, they're going to try to, you know, do some more recording there, maybe do a new video or something like that. But what they don't know is that there is a legacy of werewolves in, uh, uh, Vincent's family. And, uh, Vincent maybe is, uh, destined to become the next king of the werewolves and sort of thing like that. So it, Like I said, not the greatest movie, but it's kind of fun.

It has some charm to it. Another ironic thing is that because it's a foreign film, everybody's voice is overdubbed in the movie. And I do mean everybody. Yeah. You went and hired a superstar musician to be your lead actor in the movie.

He speaks perfectly good English. His performance was apparently just fine in the film, but you still decide to overdub him with a guy that kind of sounds like Alice if he also came from, like, Boston. That's a weird move. Yeah. And Alice didn't come from Boston, but.

I've always thought it was funny that, and I noticed it at the time in that era. And then now I still looking back at old stuff from that era, he became almost like the poster child for like music today. And these damn kids, like, I remember the one at the time watching as a kid, watching reruns of, I'm pretty sure it was one day at a time. And they were talking about like the new cool music that they were into and And Julia or somebody's like, you know, like Alice Cooper. And the joke is, well, who's she?

I'm old. I don't get it. That's the go-to for that era. And I just this past week, it's funny that now he comes up, was watching. And again, this says a lot about my life.

Back to grandpa talk. I was watching Barnaby Jones. And I'm pretty sure that was the episode that had the weird music crossover. And like the guy that worked in the industry was just like, ah, music today. alice cooper's and like that was just the what is bringing down the music industry was people like alice cooper can you imagine. And of course uh let's not forget uh the episode of highway to heaven and quantum leap which were kiss themed episodes like the there was the highway to heaven was a rock star that sort of looked like kiss but he was a solo act and you know he uh You know, kind of did, you know, he wanted to go straight.

And then Scott Bakula's character in Quantum Leap, you know, jumps into a rock star. I kind of remember that one, yeah. Oh, oh, oh. And let's also not forget Sonny Bono on the love boat. Not doing Kiss, but doing a King Diamond Merciful Fate sort of gig.

I've seen that one recently, like in the last year or so. And I'd never seen it growing up. And I was like, what the hell is this? And again, of all stunt casting... To go that direction with anyone, sure, maybe.

Sunny bone. But see, but see. It works in its own weird way. But what he really wanted to do though. when he fell in love with the girl on the boat, it's like, oh, I really want to do jazz and, you know, standards. So he takes the makeup off of the gimmick and puts on a monkey suit.

And becomes Sonny Bono. And becomes Sonny Bono. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Glorious.

Old timey TV shows. This is what we're talking about. God bless them. Yeah. But to round out my Alice Cooper trilogy, I would be remiss if I, A, did not include this song entirely, and B, did not include a John Carpenter film on this list because he's the greatest.

Yeah, can't argue with that. Gotta go with Prince of Darkness. Featuring Alice Cooper. Yep, as the lead bum, or the lead grizzly... zombie bum or something like that. I've told it on the show before.

Do you want me to tell the Alice Cooper? My favorite. Maybe more than the Muppets show. Please. My favorite Alice Cooper story.

Again, I'm a young movie dork. And I watch Entertainment Tonight all the time. It really wasn't the cheesy thing it became later. In the early days, it really was. Like, here we are on the set of this movie.

Yeah, it was a good show. It was kind of cool when I was watching it as a kid. In the Mary Hart days and John Tashman. Yeah, and John Tashman. All the way up through that.

And once later, they changed and it got trying to be more flashy and compete with Access Hollywood or whatever the hell else came out. But in the early days, it was a pretty cool show if you liked movies and TV and stuff like that. And that's why I was watching it. And so one day, it was when Prince of Darkness was coming out, and they're like, oh, and here's the new movie, and they show scenes of it as they're talking over it. I don't even think they show a clip, maybe, but they're showing people, and they show that lead bum guy, and they're like, I'm starring this, this, and this, and as that's up there, they say this actor's name.

Not Alice Cooper. So the next night, they're back on, and they're like, oh, and we need to make an apology and a correction that we misidentified this guy. character right here is actually alice cooper um we were told of our error by alice cooper which to me in that one moment i was like oh my god alice cooper was sitting home watching entertainment tonight like the dork that he is he and i were both sitting at home watching entertainment tonight together because we're both movie dorks that That moment, he was one of my favorite people of all time. That is glorious. Alice Cooper watching it and then getting on the phone going, no, no, no, guys. It's me.

It's Alice. I'm the bomb. Can you imagine that phone call that came in? They're like, this guy says he's Alice Cooper. Do you guys want to take this call?

He says we need to do a retraction? He said we screwed. Something up on yesterday's episode. Can you imagine? Oh, my God.

So I don't care how many times I tell it, that's the funniest damn story ever. That is amazing. Yes. That's maybe the best Dallas Cooper we'll ever get right there. That is glorious.

Wow. He fills the. Light, he fills the truth, he fills. What's gonna. Be.

He spits on life, he spits on God, he spits again. Darkness Studies the world with hungry eyes Prince of Darkness Ready to baptize. You in lies Heart of. Evil Soul of blackness Prince of Darkness. The sovereign lamb was just a boy with a baby's mind.

He swore damnation on God's creation. He lives for hate. He lives for tears. He lives up to his name. He knew the life.

He knew the one who was crucified in. We'll be right back. Guitar solo He feels the light He feels the truth He. Feels what's gonna be He. Spits on life He spits on God He spits on.

Death for you and me. Prince of Darkness Studies the world with hungry eyes Prince of Darkness Ready to. Baptize you in lies Prince of Darkness Studies the world with hungry eyes. Prince of Darkness. Ready to baptize you in life So talk next.

He smells the breath. Of sweet human syndrome. And deeply breathes it in Prince of Darkness Hi, I'm Patricia Quinn and you're luckily listening to Movie Meltdown. Michael Rainey was ill The day the earth stood still But he told us where we'd stand. And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear.

Claude Rains was the invisible man. Then something went wrong for Fay Wray and King Kong. Well, that was my Alice Cooper trilogy there, but I don't take over everything here because I've got a few more, but... The one other I have to include as probably this is not a song, or these songs, actually, it's kind of almost like a one-two punch. But these songs weren't written for Devil's Rejects.

But it is probably the greatest use of Freebird I've ever seen in media, period. Of course, Forrest Gump aside. Yeah. It's because, of course, like, you know... We're just going to do, I'm just going to move right past that.

I'm just going to move right past that. Fucking Forrest Gump. Anyway. We got the Firefly family. They're on the run from the cops.

They're basically running headlong into a police, you know, barricade where all the cops in that area are located. Ready to gun down these vicious criminals there. And they know... Speaking of Butch and Sundance, they know what's about to go down. They know what the news is.

And like, all right, we're going out in a blaze of glory. And then the first couple bars start coming in like really rob you vicious. Bastard rob zombie knowing that especially at that time we pretty much only knew him as a rock star i mean he was he was white zombie and became rob zombie and that was his thing and so of all things even at the time i remember going this is what you're into, Rob? I mean, now I know he's a big super dork, but at the time, I was like, he was trying to come off way heavier and edgier in those early white zombie days. So, like, by the time we get to this movie, you're like, Leonard Skinner, really?

But, I mean. I didn't necessarily have that, really. I was very intrigued and delighted at the use of this. This is a proper fucking use of this song. I absolutely loved how it was used in there.

Of course, they get completely gunned down in the hail of glory. Spoiler alert. In case you didn't get around to Devil's Rejects. Yeah, it's 2005. Get with the program.

Frankly, it's Rob Zombie's best film. I'm going out on that limb there. Devil's Rejects is Rob Zombie's best film. I have issues with most of his films, so I'm not even going to argue any of it. I would still say this.

Of all those films with all those issues, especially his two Halloween films, good God, don't get me started on those. But, nonetheless, Devil's Rejects is his finest work. Yeah, but just, of course, like, you know, the big guitar solo happened, and everybody's getting blasted. I mean, that's just, yeah, that's just a great usage. And then after the whole, the seas have calmed, the smoke has cleared, we know the Firefly family is dead as disco.

Then we get the gentle notes of Terry Reed's Seed of Memory coming in. And we get this wonderful helicopter shot going down the highway wherever they were shooting. I'm not sure where their location was. It's a great song. I love Terry Reed.

Being a Led Zeppelin fan, that was the guy who almost was Robert Plant. Like Jimmy Page wanted to hire Terry Reed instead of Robert Plant. It probably would have been a... I think it would have at least been a more reeled in version. That's what I realized as a grown-up listening to it.

I mean, Robert Plant is so into himself as the rock god that he is that I'm like, you can't... It's hard to listen to that and not... I still like a lot of those songs, but sometimes it just hits me. I'm like, really, Robert? I mean, if I woke up from 1968 through 1978 as Robert Plant, then yes, I would conduct myself that way.

Because he was a fucking rock god. That is a hell of a time for his life. Now he's an old married man. He's still out there rocking. He's an experimental rock god.

Yeah. But just that one-two punch of those songs. Brave dreams are like a. Kindle from last. Year Rise out of the battle below.

Spread wings over all that he passes So his life can stay immortal to. This country Now the shades of. Green that fall beneath this tree So let the winds of change that rearrange the country. Oh, a seed of memory. My name in the blue satin sash, yeah.

Bring love with a song as she passes. So is life and stay immortal to the country. Let every man. Aware of being free. Sometimes when wine is handed to me From a face that walked out of memory.

Now that the mountain is burning You wake up in the morning. Oh, won't we? The flowers are giving fruit. All the couples are hurt upon the light. Wrapped dreams that.

Are kindled from ashes. Rise out of the battle he loves Spread wings over all that. He passes So his life can stay more. Known to the country The shades of. The green that fall beneath the trees And the winds of change that rearrange this country Let it.

Also show a seed of memory Let it always show a seed of memory Remember, we bought a podcast. In Seed of Memory is such a beautiful song anyway, but of course it's, you know, kind of got that note of like, okay, there's something that's quite unforgettable about this group. And of course, later on, we get a sequel, Three from Hell, which the whole funny thing was like, when I knew this movie was coming out, I was like, so like, are they actually coming back from hell? No, they survived the fucking hail of bullets. Somehow.

See, there's a reason I hadn't watched that one yet. I might have even got a copy of it, and I still haven't forced myself to watch it. Here's the funny thing, of course, Sid Haig. I love Sid, so that's kind of why I'm going to watch it eventually, but I hadn't gotten. Around to it.

It's like he didn't survive the movie because he died before the film was made, so his character was killed. But the other two, Sherry Moon Zombie and Bill. Wait, Sherry Moon's in this movie? What are the odds of that? I don't give her hate that most people do, Sheik.

Has specific things that she does well. And who doesn't love Bill Moseley, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, Bill's great in the movie anyway. Yeah.

And then they get, oh shoot, I can't remember the name, the actor's name, but basically he ends up playing like a cousin of the Firefly family or something like that, so. And he wasn't around. Like, they basically, they got him in another area. And he's like, oh, yeah, I heard all the things. But, yeah, basically, like, you know, Bill Moseley's character and Shamu and Zombie were like, they were in the hospital for, like, months and months on respirators and shit like that.

And they literally come back to life. And then they go into Killing Spree again. So, it's. Obviously, they didn't see how Thelma and Louise capped it off. You didn't get a Thelma and Louise 2.

There is a Butch and Sundance 2, but it's a prequel. You gotta prequel it if you're gonna kill them off. Yeah, it doesn't do anything to enhance it. It's not a horrible movie, but if you really, really enjoyed Devil's Rejects. I would say don't.

Don't go there. Don't go there, yeah. But yeah, um i would say probably my my last film that i want to talk about just because this is would be the most recent one but um another old song that was not written for the movie but i think just totally fit um i was severely impressed with insidious Going into it, I'm thinking, okay, I knew James Wan was behind this. I was like, okay, well, you've got some talent behind here. You've got a good cast.

As we've recently discussed, he knows how to make a horror movie. But I'm like, okay, this is another possession movie or another spooky sort of thing like that. And then when you get into the meat of the movie, you're like, oh, shit. They're doing an astral plane movie without Doctor Strange. And that's where the shit's coming from. that's fucking great.

And the way they depict the astral plane in this particular, it's like, that's fucking great. So I was just totally just impressed with the twists on it. That did not, it would, if you hit me with a twist like that and I don't see it coming, then kudos to you, you know, filmmaker, because you, you got me. Uh, and I love getting got. So yeah, I was just thoroughly, thoroughly impressed with that.

And then you close out the whole shebang with the sounds of Tiny Tim's Tiptoe Through the Tulips. Which, how this was a pop song and not like, why are you not arresting this man because he's probably got people in the basement. But good God, this is a creepy ass song. Tiptoe by the window, by the window, that is where I'll be. Come tiptoe through.

The tulips with me. Oh, tiptoe by the garden, by. The garden of a blue tree. Come tiptoe through. The tulips with me.

In flowers we'll stray, we'll keep But shall we make a way And if I kiss you in the garden In the moonlight will you pardon me And tiptoe through the tulips with me. Baby, in flowers. With strain we'll keep. Love shall always win. And if I kiss you.

In the garden, if the moonlight will be part of me, I'm tip-top through the tulips with me. He was a weird dude. Yes. Um, I, it is one of those, like you could see it being a novelty song. Like I could see it if it only ever played on Dr.

Demento. Oh yeah. Then I'd be like, Oh yeah, that that's a perfect place for that song. But the fact that like, it was a legit song on the radio and he was man, the career, he was a, yeah, he was a real celebrity at that time. I mean, he's on the tonight show for his nuptials.

Like it's, Every weird big publicity stunt that they had at the time, you were going to tie in some Tiny Tim. He was an oddity in himself, and people booking him on shows knew that. Yeah, that was. I mean, yeah, he is the novelty celebrity. I mean, we didn't have reality television yet, so he was the closest equivalent.

He's a weirdo, and we all know it, and this is going to be a train wreck, and that's why we booked him. Watch this. Yeah. But it's weird that it all came from that song, essentially. Because what other song can anybody name that Tiny Tim did?

Pretty rare if anybody can come up with any of them, let alone something other than Tiptoe. Through the Tulips. I can name three, including Tiptoe, that are pop songs that feature a ukulele. Raindrops Are Falling on My Head would be the other one. And then the Hawaiian dude that did the Somewhere Over the Rainbow.

I love the ukulele, but it does not get worked in a ton, specifically in pop songs. For good reason. But, yeah, but it just, you know, the movie itself was just extremely creepy. You kind of had, like, you know, when you would see, like, some of the demonic faces and, like, you could almost picture them singing the damn song. But, yeah, just... you know, okay, you know, we're tipping toe through the tulips of the astral plane, you know, and I completely, you know, just, yeah, I just love it.

There's a great, I just, It was kind of the same way that seeing the end of Seven, and of course you're getting hit with all this shit, and Gwyneth Paltrow's head's in the box, like, oh my god, and Kevin Spacey's the murderer, dude, oh my god. And then the credits start rolling, and they're rolling the wrong fucking way. And then we get the sounds of David Bowie's The Heart's Filthy Lesson. I'm like, that's an end credit scene that fucked me up too. But yeah, when tiptoe through the tulips start coming up, like, you sons of bitches.

You got me. I loved it. Well, that one again is a sort of modern movie using an older song. Yeah. If we're handing off the baton here.

We are. I went, as we got into this, it wasn't the first one that occurred to me. But as I was going over the list, I was like, oh, well, I have to work this in because I'm pretty sure this is the first time this moment ever hit me. And it's in an 80s movie, but it's an older song. But I remember as a kid, and it explains a lot, that as a kid I was watching American Werewolf in London.

Mm-hmm. And the credits just from horror show in front of you to credits and Blue Moon. Mm-hmm. And I. Liked that song.

I actually had at the time, somehow we in the basement, there was a stack of 45s that like somebody had given to us. I don't even know how we came about them. But the one that I had that I remember I really liked was this Marcel's one. And I think it was tied to that. I don't know which came first, but I was like, wait, don't I have that song?

Or vice versa. But I remember having that and then playing it on, again, a record player, folks. And that was my tie-in to it. It was like, oh, yeah, this is the end of that werewolf movie. And it's one of the few times I remember that moment of like, oh, I see what you did here.

Mm-hmm. Like you capped it off with a song that, ha ha, perfectly, I get it. It's a joke in and of itself, just using that song. And now that's what every director does. Like now it's a signature move for so many directors.

And this was one that I guess led the charge with that because Landis thinks he's pretty clever. Because throughout that entire movie, then I was looking at the credits earlier and I'm like, okay, so we've got Moondance, Van Morrison. Mm-hmm. Bad Moonrise in CCR. And both the Sam Cooke and Bobby Vinton Blue Moon.

Yep. Before we get to the Marcells. Yep. So, yeah, he thinks he's real funny, that John Landis. Blue moon, you saw me standing alone Without a dream in my heart Without a love on.

My mind Blue moon. You knew just what I was there for You heard me saying a prayer for Someone I really care for And then they suddenly forgive before me. The only one my heart would ever hold. I heard somebody whisper, please, adore me. And when I look, the moon is.

Dead to go. Oh, blue moon. Now I'm no longer. Alone. Without a dream.

In my heart. Without a love of my own. Oh. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. But, I mean. You're doing kind of the quintessential werewolf movie. I'm sorry, has there been another werewolf movie that has topped American Werewolf in London since its release? In what sense?

Impact or. Impact in quality, in cultural relevance, anything. I like Cursed. I didn't see that for years. I finally watched it and I'm like, this is a fun movie.

I don't care what anybody says. It's fun. It was fun. It's fun. It's fun.

It's fun. Wes occasionally just likes to have fun. But if we're talking about... The kind of horror movie that all other horror movies seem to come from or are heavily influenced by or when we refer to a certain type of a subgenre of a horror film. Like when we talk about zombie movies, we talk about Night of the Living Dead.

We talk about Dawn of the Dead, you know, stuff like that. We talk about werewolf movies unless we're talking about fucking Lon Chaney. So I was going to say there are two eras. We're talking old. Timey werewolf man shaped person or full on giant wolf version which that was the coolest thing.

I just got a copy of it. I haven't watched it in forever and I ran across it for cheap and I was like do I have this? I don't know. I'm buying it anyway because it's also the one that has the full on documentary on it with it that I want to go back and rewatch. But it is amazing that creature that they created for it number one because you never really saw a werewolf like that before then but um aside from that i mean everybody goes on and on about the effects rightfully so they're amazing but that was also that moment in time because it's the same year as the howling yes which i feel like is the other version of that the joe dante doesn't have the same budget as you so we're not going to get the full-on effects that you are.

But we're going to get really cool stuff. We're also getting a really good werewolf movie. So yeah, I think that 81. Is just like the, that's where you go for like that turning point in werewolf movies. It's like, you know, you've got Lon Chaney jr.

And then years and years of just people kind of knocking that off until you get to 1981. And then like between the Howling and American werewolf in London, like nothing's ever going to be the same for werewolf movies again. So, yeah. And I love too, that John Landis loves throwing in, dirty jokes as an Easter egg in his movies. Most notorious would be the film we're never going to see, See You Next Wednesday.

Yep. Which would be, I guess, the sequel to See You Next Tuesday. But, you know, if you know what that means, folks, take out the front letters there. Yeah. It's a dirty one.

Landis. I would give him more credit, but we all know there's. Issues with Landis as a filmmaker. I love it. See You Next Wednesday pops up.

It's been an action movie. It's been a porn film. It's been a love story. Yeah, just love it. Again, he was somebody who just loved that.

Growing up on schlock. literally like that was the kind of stuff he wanted to do. And he got suckered into making these comedies that did really well. And then they're like, well, what do you want to do now that you have millions of dollars to blow on something? And he's like, Oh, I'm still waking my world movie. Like I've been working on this one in my head for years.

He literally did a movie called schlock. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's where he started. And then like eventually came around and was like, I'm going to make my werewolf movie.

And yeah, He sure did. But I mean, yeah, I say it's just, you know, the makeup in the film, you know, won numerous Oscars. It started, you know, careers for people. Yeah. And brought not just acceptability, but like prestige to effects, you know, where we were all still watching horror movies and we still love that stuff.

But like nobody really cared in the official sense. But once it got that kind of recognition that the Oscars are like, OK, this is. amazing and groundbreaking and we're going to make a special award for you. Then people were like, oh, this is like a real industry. Guys have been doing it in the kitchen for years, throwing shit together to be like, this is going to be the blood. Finally, it got some sort of notoriety and respectability.

Of course, as far as films go, in 1981 when this movie came out, we had never seen a transformation like that on film before. I mean, Lon Chaney's stuff was done in, like, dissolves. You know, we'd never seen an in-time transformation from man to beast, and that was just horrifying. But, of course, there's so much... There was some cool shit in this movie, too.

I mean, like, the whole dream sequence. I think that's what everybody remembers outside of the transformation scene. Yeah. If you ask most fans of it, they're like, and then that one dream sequence, and, like, that's the... the weird cutaways that people like have stuck in their head. Yeah.

Because like, you know, for the writer to like delve so much, like let's get into like his subconscious, like he, his subconscious knows he's transforming into this beast and who he was and what he was before is gone, you know, sort of thing like that. So the student who's at home and with his family and all that, nah, he's, he's fucking killed, you know, and we're going to slaughter the whole family too. Everybody's dead, you know? And in his mind, it was, werewolf nazi zombies yeah like with machine guns like. All right whatever you say yeah but yeah i figured that was the first time i remember this happening with credits and so i was like well we gotta work that.

In yeah it's it's a it's a striking moment. So my next go-to and probably the one that i was most again as we started talking about this it was the first one that came up in general when we were just talking about in credits And then it was also, once we switched to horror, I was like, okay, well now I can work that in, assuming one or the other of us doesn't grab it. I'll definitely have to get to something from Scream, speaking of Wes earlier. What's weird is, as I said with the last of these episodes, the way I remember it is not always the way it is. To this day, when I hear the song First Cool Hive.

I think it's a credit song. It's a Moby song and it's very cool. It was kind of that era. Moby was on a ton of soundtracks at that time. And like, this is one of those weird ones that just got worked in there.

It's not at all in the credits. It's worked into the, it's featured pretty heavily in, in that definitely that first movie it's on the soundtrack, but it is not a credit song. Interesting. So then, yeah, I was like, well, we've got, what it actually ends with that first one is I do think that first soundtrack is, pretty great. Like I love that Gus song.

Like I've definitely worked other stuff in over the years, but like that first one is just really solid. So like I could go with anything off of there, you know, as far as stuff that I really like on a tight end soundtrack kind of thing, but it ends with, um, whisper to a scream by Soho, which is a cool, again, I remembered that from the soundtrack. I did not remember. That's what kicks off the credits. Right.

So I was like, there's that to work in. Love comes down upon us and it flows like water, burning with a hope of insight, feathered books, the colors of a bright elation. Stolen in the sight of love. We are, we are, we are, we're just children finding our way around. are other helpless faces forever whisper to me. Birds fly in the eye of a faithless daughter spoken at the bitter end wasted sacrifice for the noon.

Of honor. We are, we are, we are all the helpless. Take this forever. Whisper to the screen. Whisper to the screen.

Whisper to the screen. With tattoos, with tattoos With tattoos, with tattoos With. Tattoos I don't know. Like I went back and forth. Cause then I started looking at the sequels.

It's also not on the end of any of the sequels that, that weird movie song. So that one was just like worked in there and, and became, but it, that series has such a, a just overarching kind of not just story, but things, you know, it's like it creates its own little universe there. So then there's like, since it has its own theme song, It just is worked in as a song in the middle of the movies for the first two. But the third one, not only do they round it out with Red Right Hand, but he writes new lyrics for it. Yeah.

I was like, I guess if we have to get something in that's from the credits of the Scream, what is now a quadrology or franchise. Now we've trained, tanned it off and have a fifth one. And that song is featured in four out of five of those. Yeah, it's kind of become the franchise's signature song. Yeah, it is our theme song, essentially.

Definitely for that original trilogy, and then they brought it back in this fifth one. So, yeah, it's become... It's come to represent the entire Scream universe, more or less. It was probably the entry point for everybody for Nick Cave if you weren't an indie music fan. See, yeah, I already had definitely murder ballads, and I already knew the song from other stuff, but it was weird when I was like, oh, that's that song, because I was already listening to Nick Cave.

But it was cool that it got worked in that first movie, and then it was almost weird that it became the theme song. It was a pre-existing thing, but it became the theme song. And now, as I went online, it also is Peaky Blinders tie-in, which I had not watched, so I didn't know that. But that became, I think, their intro song. I think it was like the theme song for that show for several seasons.

So I was like, interesting. All right. But I'm all about Nick Cave getting more money. So yeah, Nick Cave seems like a pretty awesome guy and knows how to write a song. So it was pretty, you know, I think that was kind of like a thank you from both of them.

It's like, thank you for letting me use your song. And he's like, okay, thank you for making me huge because of it. And you know what? I'll write you a whole new version for number three. So yeah, this is the readjusted version of Red Right Hand for actually it's, credited on IMDb as Red Right Hand 2 when it goes on the Scream 3 soundtrack there.

So.... Take a little walk to the edge of town. Now spread your wings and fly. Don't the lights of the city look so damn. Pretty when you.

Fly so high? It's hard to know that down below The streets, babe, are swimming deep in. Blood It's enough to. Make me groan and cry You really wanna know what's wrong with this land? Just scratching your head with your red right hand.

You see, everyone's a liar, baby, that's the truth. Said everyone's a liar. Baby, and I got proof. You got a new boy. You feel you're in with a chance You think you're in his arms but you're in his hands They still seem so cute and true Groovy But to get that boy up on the stand And to watch.

Him raise his red light hand. Yeah, move your hips, baby, or move your eyes. I use your lips, baby, to. Conceal his cries. He's a trace in a tiny finger down your spine.

He's leaving behind a thin red line. Don't get so safe when it all comes down so heavy. A low wind moans. Across this land As he. Rips your chest with his red right.

Hand Thank you. Thank you. I'm talking about blood, babe. It's in your veins. Your mommy and daddy, they've got the same.

You're under the mirror day after day. You see a pretty face crumbling away. As you become your mom and daddy Scream once, scream twice, now scream again Cover that face with your big bright. Hand Thank you. Bye.

Thank you. And then I had to because I brought it up I was like damn it I know I worked this in on that episode but that was 11 years ago and I don't give a rat's ass I one of my favorite ending songs and one that's so perfectly balances out the movie many people have problems with the fourth scream I think there's a lot of good stuff in it but that final song is one of my favorite things about that movie Bad Karma which is done by Ida Maria. Didn't really know her beforehand, but it kicks in really hard as those credits roll. And then as the lyrics go on, I'm like, yeah, specifically for what goes on in this movie, this is the best possible song. Nice.

I love some bad karma. You better believe in karma Baby, it's gonna sting The wheel of life's gonna do you in So I don't. Really have to do a thing You took. Me out of my money You messed. Up my love life and my career.

You better believe and come on. Guess it's gonna start getting weird right here. But come on. Yeah. Baby, that's what you got.

Better come on. Yeah. Do you believe it or not? Bad karma's a bitch You. Better believe in Jesus Cause only he can save you now Throw in a saint or two, I dumped ya Three Hail Marys and a Hare Krishna.

You made me drink. The Kool-Aid You tricked me into thinking I'd kill me instead You're the firstborn of. The devil But even he ain't taking you. Back, back, back, back. Come on.

Yeah. Maybe that's what you got. Bad. Come on. Yeah.

Do you believe it or not? The universe is going. To get you. You'll be scratching the surface. It's just my opinion.

Damn. Bad karma's a bitch. La, la, la. Better believe and come on. Just look at the sorry shape you're in.

There's a doll with your name and your gloomy face. The Department of Doom with a rush on your case. You better believe in voodoo, babe. I got a long list of your sins. There's a word you might have heard called payback.

And I'm running out of pills. Come on. Yeah. Do you believe it or not? The universe is going.

To get you. You're stretching to save your life. And that's just what I think. Yeah. Mad Karma's a bitch.

Mad Karma's a bitch. Mad Karma's a bitch. Mad Karma's a bitch. I gotta go back and watch Scream 4, because I haven't seen the new one. I know you all have talked about it on the show previously, but I haven't gone and seen the new one, and I think I've seen Scream 4, but I don't remember anything about it.

Is that the one that got Hayden Panettiere in it? Yes. Okay, that's what I remember about the movie, and that's about it. And she's pretty great. I do like her.

She's a nice addition, and I... Again, my issues are what happens with the story and what I wanted to happen with the story versus what actually happens in the movie. Yeah, because I remember the killer in one is the two boys and the killer in two is the mom. The killer in three is the long lost brother. But I can't remember who the killer in four is.

And I'll let you rediscover it. Oh, great. Thanks. Now, again, I think that's my only issue with it, as I wish he would. And I said this at great length on that episode and have said it since then.

I do wish he would have changed things up. I feel like it falls into the screen mold almost too perfectly as the other three. So it's like I wanted him to change things up. But we do get a great reveal, a great whatever goes on with the killer. I'm not even going to go into that.

But if you haven't seen it, it's amazing. And the way that it sort of rounds things out. I was just bored with the older characters. I'm like, for the love of God, have we not killed off Courtney Cox yet? Please!

I know, right? And even Nev, I love her in the movie, but I was like, you could mix things up. You could take her out. And like, it doesn't happen. We all know she's in this last movie.

But, yeah. So I think that kind of stuff, I was. Familiar with a little too much but i think watching what goes on in the movie each scene because i re-watched it i think a year or two before the next one came out and like all of those individual scenes are so good like still i'm like west that was towards the end of the run and like he's still just so good at putting together these scenes and like making a great horror scenario and like each of these little moments is like perfect on its own and you put it together. And sometimes it's not as good as an overall thing. So it's, it's got issues again with where the story goes, but I think those scenes are terrific and there's some great performances.

So one of my favorite things though, is the ending song. I gotta go back and see, see that one and then check out the new one, which it irritated me that of the three leads they bring back for this new screen film, The one they kill off is David Arquette. I'm like, are you kidding? See, that's what I said. I went and I said this the fourth one.

I said this the last episode. I was like, that's the one I wanted to carry on because that was my favorite thing out of these is he seems like he's dead at the end of the first movie. Yeah. And like he comes back and like he keeps getting more injured. He's like limping and his arms messed up.

And so like by the time we get like, I'm like, once you get to four and five, You can kill off Nev. You can kill off Courtney. And, like, the only thing that should carry on is this grizzled old dude that's probably not even a cop anymore just following them around the country wherever the hell this new scream. Thing pops up. There's Dewey showing up again.

Like, I'm like, that's a great legacy to bring into this. that's not what happens but i i like the idea if. I had my way with the series i would have done the you know the the fake out with killing dewey in the third one actually killing gail in the third one i. Said that definitely by the time of the fourth one i was like there's a perfect scene to kill her in the fourth one and they go about it all weird so. Yeah see i would have yeah i would have killed off gail in the third one because they did they were they were you know Making the relationship a little more real or something like that. I think they proposed to each other in the second one.

I don't know. Anyway. But nonetheless, I would have killed her in the third one. And then to make a statement for the fourth one. Like, this is a new thing.

A new generation. We're trying to start this up again. Whatever else. Kill Nev off in the fourth one. Beginning of the movie.

Again, I really like what she's done. And even in the new one. I think she shows up and does great work. Yeah. But for the overall story, I think that would have been an interesting way to mix it, especially the way they round out the fourth one.

I think there's a whole new direction they could have taken it, and they stick to the usual stuff. I get it. It's a safe cookie-cutter way to do these horror movies. You don't want to stray too far from it. He's made a fortune off of it.

One other thing, too, is that it would have been a big deal because you had all your stunt castings for the beginnings of the movie, and that was the first person to get killed off. Drew Barrymore in the first one, Jada Pinkett in the second one, you know, that sort of thing like that. Cotton. We kill off cotton. Yeah.

It's like, wouldn't that have been a big deal to start the fourth movie killing off your supposed lead? Yep. Very Argento of you, Mr. Craven, but nope. I think so.

You went safe, which I got a feeling if he had made that choice, probably some producers in the studio may have said no. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he probably wrote it that way and they were like, we can't kill off our lead. Yes, we can.

You keep saying you got something for me there's something you. Call love but confess. Hi, this is Crispin Glover, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. All right, well, if we're going 80s slashers, and then I was going through different options earlier, and I was like, well, let's do one that's a little off the beaten path, as was the movie. And my theory, which I made on an episode a long time ago, was the one that arguably maybe killed 80s slashers movies, April Fool's Day.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Which I loved at the time. And then as I went back and revisited it, I was like, it does all these things that just piss off horror fans. Yeah. To the point that you don't really...

Can you think of any big slasher movies that weren't part of a series that comes after April Fool's Day? Maybe Chucky. And I don't really think of him as a real slasher. But everything gets goofy and silly the further you get into the Chuckies and Leprechauns and stuff down the slasher path. And, like, I feel like that was the dividing line, is after April Fool's, they were like, screw this.

Like, it just doesn't... Things did start getting a little more ridiculous. Yeah, it rubbed old school horror fans the wrong way. At the time, I don't feel like people liked it. Even now, I feel like there's a lot of people that, like, it sort of got a resurgence and people changed their minds on it, maybe.

But, yeah, I think it's one of those that just rubbed people the wrong way as a horror movie goes. But. of it not taking itself seriously at all, even within the movie, then you get to the credits and it does Too Bad You're Crazy, which is sung by Jerry Whitman and is memorable, if nothing else. Too bad you're crazy Too bad you're loony as. Hell So long. It could have been swell together Too bad you're wacko.

How sad your marbles are gone. We could be dancing till dawn, but you're too weird for words. How did you get so strange? You were such a beautiful kid. Now you are so deranged.

Was it mom and daddy? Something I did? Too bad you're no-no. Too bad. You shouldn't be locked in a cell.

Ha, sad, you're great, but hey, what the hell, you're crazy. You're off the deep end. Your life's a practical joke. I'd bail you out, but I'm broke. Your brain's completely fried.

Life's just a party trick to you. Clown jokes and lots of booty do. It's time to put that. On the shelf. I'm a little bit crazy myself.

But certainly needs to be the end of any horror movie of a bunch of craziness going on. This is the theme song you need. God, that's a movie I haven't seen in like about 30 odd years. But man, yeah, talk about a dividing line there. Yeah, because definitely that was kind of a late period one there.

But I mean, like your 90s period, like there was a lot of experiment. Like, let's try to, you know. start this off. Let's try to start this off. And really, like, you know, Chucky and the Hellraiser were probably your best franchises to come out of that late 80s, 90s period. But then you had, like, Shocker.

And you had Brain Scan. And, um, God. I mean, there was, you know, Wishmaster. They kept trying to get these things going. And sometimes they did.

They made a bunch of Wishmasters. But, like, does anybody really think back as, like, It's my favorite horror movie of that era. No. If you're a Wishmaster fan, I'm sorry. Let me introduce you to a couple other movies.

Maybe you're just getting to see a lot. Didn't you see Warlock? I mean, you could have been going down the Warlock path. See, I dug Warlock, though. The sequel's not so much.

I have not watched it since the original time. The OG Warlock is good. The sequel's not so much. I just remember that's another one of those that got a bunch of sequels. And I was like, did anybody watch any of these?

How does it keep getting sequels? Chewing Sands has nothing else to do I guess well I mean. They made like four house movies and two of them have nothing to do with each other and two of them weren't even released in this country so it's like wait a minute. Oh you know and. Troll 2 has no trolls.

Let's come on it's a classic though honey is breakfast ready? uh well let's see of of my recent one the only thing that came up and this was weird because it came up as after we'd already discussed this i was like piecing stuff together of what we were gonna do and then i'm watching this movie for the show and then i'm listening to the credits and i'm like I know that voice. What is this song? And I somehow had not gotten around to the movie until we watched it for the show. This is Dead Silence, and the closing song is actually, it kicks off with instrumental stuff, and it's going along, and then halfway in switches gears to Who's Holding You Now by Jeanette Napolitano. Are you in the arms of a stranger?

It's dangerous the way I'm feeling So disconnected, so rejected Staring at the ceiling from the side of the bed Remembering things that you said And now you're saying to someone else I am. Ready to scream. This is all a bad dream. And I am beside myself. Who's holding you now?

Who's holding you now? Who's holding you now? I'm holding the arms of a stranger It's dangerous the way I'm feeling. So disconnected, so rejected Staring at the ceiling From the side of the bed Remembering things that you said And now you're saying. To someone else I am ready to scream This.

Is all a bad dream And I am beside myself Who's holding you now? Now. So, I loved Concrete Blonde, and if we're going back old school, yeah, she's the main reason. I also think there's another guitarist who has such an amazing signature sound of that time period and just what he did so well. So, yeah, I loved all of their stuff back in the day and then, like, hadn't seen much from her or the band or anything in years and then was watching Dead Silence for the show.

And that kicks in and it's a song that she co-wrote and is vocals. So, yeah, I was just one that came out of nowhere that I was like, well, this is interesting, mostly just because I love Jeanette and I want to get back into I want more stuff from her. Nice. Yeah, Concrete Blonde, some great songs, of course. They had, like, you know, for anybody that's a fan of any kind of vampires, one of the best vampire-themed songs ever that could have been used for numerous movies.

And has yet to be used. And really wasn't, yeah. Bloodletting is amazing. That whole album is phenomenal. That's great.

But, yeah, that is, like, the signature song for any goth kid out there. It certainly was at the time, but. still they never got crossover like mainstream. Like they had one song that most people knew. And other than that, nobody knew anything else by them. And then I don't know, they just didn't last long enough to come back around for another, you know, second take at it.

Yeah. Cause, um, I, uh, if we may remember of any RPG fans there, uh, it may still be around. I'm not sure, but there used to be a, uh, RPG called vampire, the masquerade. Yeah. That's kind of the, the white wolf game started this whole, uh, franchise with like you know horror monster themed stuff but Vampire the Masquerade was the franchise.

Yeah it was hugely popular when it started yeah. I was with a group of people where we would do live action Vampire where like we you know would you know run around the park or run around somebody's house or you know yards like that and we were acting out our characters well before every single game we had to listen to Bloodletting nice yeah so I was like it just got everybody in the mood so I was like yeah it was a great song there but. I like the deluxe version I bought an import single just to get that. It's got this extended intro. It's got these sound effects worked into the background that are super creepy.

So yeah, that's an even. Better way to go. Nice. Look for that if you're a gothy dork. All right.

Well, we've been through a lot, so we got to round it out. But before that, I wanted to at least some shout outs, if you will. You're lucky that I didn't round out the episode with the one I saw today. Uh-oh. As I was getting the notes ready for this episode, I'm also watching Teen Witch.

Which I knew by reputation. Somehow I had never seen it. So I was just like, well, I can't not watch this. I mean, it is legendary. There's not a... girl of a certain age that didn't grow up loving this movie.

So I've been told. My wife being one of them. There you go. So I've been told. So yeah, the big scene at the dance at the end.

Is Finest Hour. So I could have gone out on some Finest Hour. Not the spookiest of songs, so I thought I'd spare you that. But I enjoyed it more than I expected, actually. It's a pretty standard... made-for-TV, aimed-at-kids kind of a movie, and you didn't get a lot of girl leads at the time, so, like, it was fun.

And also in the era of Satanic Panic, to depict a, you know, child with, you know, supernatural abilities as a positive and light character or whatnot, it somehow worked. It was kind of like a Sabrina the Teenage Witch knockoff. But it comes, like, it just becomes your standard high school movie where, like, the dorky kid becomes super cool and then ignores their friend and realizes they've become the thing. They hated most. Like it's so typical, like high school movie.

I was like, well, of course she's going to do that. Of course she's not talking to her nerdy friend now. She's super popular. I was like, this is, you can't hate on it. And again, it's a time honored tradition.

This is how you make these movies. Of course. Yeah. So I didn't go down that road. You're, you're welcome.

But I did, there were ones that I had played before that I was like, I've mentioned on many occasions somewhat recently, as we were discussing on the Fright Night episode, I do love the 99 Problems version that they did. Oh, yeah. That I think I always called a cover, but really other than those couple of lines is not really a cover song. Yeah, yeah. Hugo does their own weird thing that just kind of borrowed from the. pre-existing though the original jay giles has its charm too.

That is yeah we were discussing that coming into this episode it was like i forgot that was jay giles but that is a great sound like a jay giles great tie-in for fright night and i do love the song even though it does not sound like jay giles right um the one that i've played maybe the most i i'm pretty sure i played it on the episode i played it on a soundtrack episode years ago it is my go-to for this kind of taking an old timey song and making it fit your creepy thing And this movie's creepy on a couple levels. The theme song at the end of Jeepers Creepers is hush hush here comes the boogeyman. And it is a creepy song mostly because it sounds like a creepy old timey song. Yeah. But if you listen to the lyrics at that point and I went back and like found the year and like it's an old song.

So to be as creepy as it is and like as openly you know hey kid this is all about the boogeyman and like it's Very frank, and it's weird. Again, at the time, I guess it depends how far back you go, but before, you know, pre-code days, they did whatever the hell they wanted, and things were creepy if they needed to be. So, yeah, for as old as it is, it is a very creepy song made extra creepy by its attachment to Jeepers Creepers. And they were making Jeepers Creepers creepy already in the movie itself. Yeah.

You get two old-timey songs for. The price of one. Because Jeepers Creepers is the way it opens, I believe, and then it rounds it out with, you know, here comes the boogeyman. You hear the song a couple times. Yeah, he plays it in his creeper lair.

Yeah. And then. Yeah, there is a new one, which I almost got a copy of to watch this weekend and haven't gotten around to it. So I have not decided what I think of this new reboot of Jeepers Creepers. I've been curious.

I saw that it existed, so I need to check it out. I'm more interested in the Hellraiser remake than I am. The Jeepers Creepers. I am too. Yeah.

Yeah, I still want to check that out. So that's true. A couple movies I have to give shout-outs to that weren't initially on my list that are great ending songs. You've got to go with The Lost Boys, the Echo and the Bunnymen cover of People Are Strange. We hear it earlier in the film, but then it also ends the film as well.

It is pretty awesome. And it's an amazing cover. There was probably a period of time where people didn't realize that was a cover because the doors are kind of. They had their popularity in the 60s and a little bit in the 70s, and then when the Val Kilmer movie came out in the 90s, All your 90s kids suddenly were Doors fans. Yeah.

And so they got their rise in popularity. But in the 80s, the Doors were probably like almost forgotten by at least the youth culture. That was the lull. And when I was kind of getting into them. Again, I think every teenager, probably every teenage boy gets into that era of like suddenly they discover this Jim Morrison thing.

And he's so deep and meaningful. And then you realize he's just a weirdo. He's a drunken rock star. I'm amazed at him for what he brought to the table for being not a trained singer, hadn't even been in a band. He came out of nowhere and then had this... charisma and this voice and like everything that he brought to the table is pretty amazing for somebody who did not set out to do that.

So I don't know. Yeah. Points to him. An interesting story. But I do like his inclusion in the Lost Boys because at that point, the main thing most people knew about him was his death and like his mysterious death and his untimely death and like everything about that.

So the fact that these vampire kids are, were so like taken with them that they have the giant banner of him in their cave. Yeah. That I was like that one, two punch of like putting in a doors cover, having them. And he's like their, their God almost on the wall there that they, you know, pay tribute to the, the rockstar gods of, you know, the olden days. Yeah.

The sixties. Exactly. So yeah, I always liked that little inclusion that he is honorary member of the undead. I would say so. Yeah.

And then lastly, one song I can't believe I didn't include in my list because it fits so well. And it just, if you're even further familiar with the actor in question here, then it just, it makes it even more beautiful. But the Willard remake that starred Crispin Glover and ends with a cover of the Michael Jackson classic, Ben, sung by Crispin Glover. Oh, Crispin is a musician. In quotations, we will put him as a musical artist, yes.

Now that you've thrown it in there, you've already heard it, because I will put it in any chance I get. Our promo with him, I featured a version of him doing These Boots Are Made For Walking, which Don in the style only Crispin Glover could do. Yeah. He's a special, special guy. I mean i'll i'll give some uh some props to ruben and ed that's a charming little film um but um yeah um willard's interesting um it couldn't it i could have gone a little stranger uh with that but in in It was also too bad they used too much CGI in that film.

Yeah, yeah. That's many a problem. A lot of movies. But I'm watching this film, and I'm thinking, okay, well, I know there was the Michael Jackson song that came with the OG version. Will they...

And that's the funny thing, too. It actually came with the sequel. Yeah. Not the original Will. Not the original.

It came with the sequel. It's Ben. Yeah, and hence the name, which was also really weird. It's like, okay, so it's a horror movie, and then the sequel is basically... Kind of a horror movie, but it's more of a children's film.

And then ends with a love song. Essentially. And ends with a love song to a rat. Very strange. A love song from a boy's perspective to his rat.

Okay. But yeah, but then so, but in a great, great bit of stunt casting though, we decided, you know what? We got Chris McGlover here. We got a song about a rat we can do. You know what, Chris?

What do you think, buddy? And, uh, Yeah, and we get Crispin Glover covering Michael Jackson. And he does a... He doesn't weird it up or anything. He does a note-perfect cover.

Which is not always what he does as... Discussed by... But. Except if you know the guy, if you watch the movie and you hear the songs, it all still is creepy. He doesn't have to be creepy to just still be creepy.

It's creepy, but in a different way than you expected. Yeah, you could see he was trying to sound sweet, but it's like, yeah, you're going to kill the rat at the end of the song or what, man? It's like, yeah, you're just... Yeah. Even you trying to sound sweet comes off creepy, dude.

Yeah, it really does. It's just kind of how you roll. You know, your biggest song was about clowns. It's terrifying. Yeah.

The other one, as I was going through, I forgot. I went by. I was like, is that how it ends? Yeah, the Evil Dead goes out with the Charleston. Hmm.

The original Evil Day. And I was like, that is a weird move for that movie. And then I was like, well, it was probably in public domain by then because he had no money. Yep. So I was like, yeah, that's probably why it goes out on the Charleston.

Well, that movie was so, like, we didn't get into the severe craziness that number two was. Oh, yeah. But number one was pretty gonzo in itself. I feel like it's disturbing. I still stand by that first one as a great horror movie.

Oh, yeah. Two and the third become silly comedies almost, but it's not a comedy that first. No, no disturbing. Many of what the different scenarios we have thrown at us are really horrifying. So, and of course a lot of the makeup and the effects that were done in that film are, were so crudely done that they looked disgusting even further because of it.

It gave it a realism that you weren't expecting out of this movie. And still, my favorite shot of the entire Evil Dead franchise exists in the original. is when he's looking in the mirror and talking and laughing like that, and then he puts his hand through the mirror and it's water. And it just freaks him the fuck out like that. How on the $ 5 they did, how did they do that shot? Most of that stuff just looks so good.

You would not think it for the budget that they had, for how long it's been. It still holds up for me. But again, I have different standards than some, but I think that all still holds up. Yeah. To end with a Charleston.

That was great, yeah. It's pretty strange. So there are many others. There were a few that I'm like, maybe we'll do another version of this. But I was just trying to find something that had a good way to round it out.

And this one is from a movie that it was of an era of Let's Do remakes. And it was not a popular movie at the time. I now, and we've discussed wanting to cover it. So we're probably somewhere down the line going to watch it and do a whole episode on the movie. But also taking, again, trying to be super popular, bringing in popular actors, and then going out on a super popular band.

House of Wax ends with Helena by My Chemical Romance. So as I was going through, I was like, well, so long and good night. That's the only way to round this thing out. But yeah, that was one of those, it was that era of like, enough that it, again, That same era of post-April Fool's Day, horror movie fans were just angry for years. The slashers were dying.

The things that came to take their place outside of Scream were mostly just cast a bunch of teenagers from popular things that are on TV right now, throw them in usually a remake of something that we really liked. I don't know how many people really saw The House of Wax that said they were horror fans or... 13 Ghosts or House on Haunted Hill, like all of those that came along. It's like, I don't know that they really considered them reverent, but somehow it was a slap in the face the way that they did them, which I don't know. I think some of those hold up all right.

Yeah, I mean, definitely. Like in the 2000s era, the early 2000s, your only franchise of note was the Final Destination franchise. Yeah. And, I mean, not all those films are great, but some of them are good. And the concept itself.

The concept is amazing. Yeah, the concept. Your villain is death itself. Yeah, I was like, that's a great concept. And putting into play, like, any scenario you enter in, you then have to be like, okay, wait, how am I going to die?

Like, you start. Playing that game as the characters come into it. And then you carry it over into the real world. Whereas now, I can't tell you how many times I've seen people, like, specifically... send photos as they're on the highway of a log truck to the writer, and they'll be like, dude, I can't see one. You've ruined me.

Like, you've messed up my whole life because I can't ride on the highway because this log truck is going to get me in a weird. It's going to break suddenly. The log's going to go through my front windshield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.

It's just a Goldbergian machine is going to come about that takes me out. And that's how every one of those scenes happens. It's like you enter in and you think, oh, that thing looks pretty deadly. That's probably, nope, this thing over here is going to kill you. So the fact that it created that, yeah, that was the franchise.

Those are pretty impressive for what they are. They get ridiculous as well, but the idea is amazing. Yeah, I mean, it's funny, too, because you've got, like, you know, so many ways people go out that are very typical. You know, somebody dies slipping in the shower. Somebody dies, you know, falling face first on the stove or something.

You know, people die in a plane crash. People die in a roller coaster accident. But the one thing of the movies that always we remember is that fucking log truck. And was that the second movie? That's the second movie, yeah.

It's not even the original movie. Yeah, it's one of the sequels. It's still written by Jeffrey, and he came up with that concept while being stuck in traffic, driving back home to visit mom, I think, and was just like, man, what if that log truck just became one of the most memorable scenes ever? Yeah, it's so funny. That scene just sticks with you so much, more so than a lot of the others do.

Yep. That one, again, to have that kind of impact on people's lives just by making your silly horror movie. That's amazing. And a very typical thing we all see on the roads all the time is those big old log trucks or big semis or whatnot. And it's just waiting there for you.

Oh, man. Yeah. Much like our impending wrap-up. Indeed. Much like death itself.

It's waiting for us somewhere down the line. It's coming for you. All ends are inevitable, including this show. But again, I feel like we skipped a whole bunch. So we can come back and do another round of this.

Or we can just do. An overall horror movie one. So we can revisit this territory. I'm sure I can come up with a few more. There was a couple in our last episode that I didn't get to use.

That y'all thought were some interesting stories and whatnot. But that's the fun thing too. Some of these songs actually have some fun stories behind them as well. So we can definitely come back to this. Basic idea or even the specific version of it and just get ones we didn't hit.

Yeah. But I will definitely give some recommendations since we're in spooky season. For the theaters, I mentioned Barbarian earlier. That's definitely worth checking out. Smile is really good.

Great tension. Like, it's more of a supernatural sort of, you know, theme film than a slasher or, you know, monster or anything like that. But it does a great job of building tension, building suspense and atmosphere with not a lot happening. And I can't remember her first name, but Kevin Bacon's daughter is the lead in the film, and her performance is outstanding. Bacon's made quite a few horror-overtoned...

Sometimes not out and out horror, but he's done a lot of stuff that borders on horror or edges its way into horror, whether it meant to or not. He's done something like Stir of Echoes. Hollow Man is disturbing on a couple of levels. Yeah, Hollow Man. He's got a new one over there on Peacock, They Them, where it's like a conversion camp or something like that, except everybody's homicidal.

But then if you don't want anything that's more horror. You want something that's a little more fun. Disney Plus has got the Marvel Werewolf by Night and I will say if you are not a superhero fan, if you have no desire for any of this stuff, I still highly recommend checking this out. It is done in the traditional kind of... you know, universal monsters kind of feel. It's in black and white, and it is not beholden to anything in the MCU.

So if you don't know any, you don't know an Avenger from a Spider-Man from an Iron Man or anybody like that, then you can go in this movie completely ignorant and will enjoy yourself. And it's an isolated thing. It's barely an hour long. So yeah, it's the first in a special presentation that they're going to do where they have these little one-offs i think we're gonna see one later this year with the guardians of the galaxy holiday. Special i kind of like these ideas it's i guess if they didn't have their own platform to do it on these things wouldn't exist so i like that they're kind of making use of that that we can get a holiday special or that we can get like these weird little also almost like again it's like something that wouldn't happen theatrically but now that they have a way to deliver it to people because they're they own everything Yeah, they can bring us these weird little offshoots.

I was trying to think. Oh, like the what-ifs. That kind of thing could never really fly as a movie. Right. But in these little smaller bite-sized things, it's pretty cool.

So, yeah, I like this. Yeah, and it's a great way to introduce different sides of the Marvel Universe or new characters or whatnot in fun and creative ways. And this does a great job of introducing basically a trio of Of Marvel, you know, supernatural themed heroes here. But yeah, tons of fun. Great for the Halloween crowd.

Of course, I mean, you want to go the Hocus Pocus 2 route, you know, for the family friendly stuff. Sure. But if you want something that's got a little more meat on its bones, but still somewhat safe for maybe the older kids, not the little ones, but maybe the older kids. No. The Werewolf by Night.

Highly recommend that one. All right. There's your recommendations. From the fanatic himself. Well, with all that, so long and good night.

And I will once again remind you, get a life. We'll provide the soundtrack. We are so far from home. It's a very fast day So long and goodnight So long and goodnight Came a time When every star Fall brought to the tears. Again we are The very hurt you sold.

And what you worship From. Every heart you break And like a blade you'll stand While I'm holding on tonight What's the worst thing I can say Since I've been with my state So long and goodnight So long and goodnight So long and goodnight. Thank you. It's a dead man's party over here. Oh, there we go.

I think we already worked in our... Last time we worked in our... Oingo Boingo tribute, so we can find another way to get him in there. I feel like that Danny, he's been involved in movies. He's done one or two.

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