Attack of the Oscar Nominees!

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MUSIC PLAYS. What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killers soundtrack. I'm Brian. That's Lucy. And that's Fred.

Those are our. Regular two weirdos, which you're, I'm assuming, familiar with at this point. Also joining this week, we have Michael. Say hello. Michael left, and this is Fred 2, Return of Fred, Fred's Revenge, sitting in his place.

We don't need more Fred. We have a lot of Fred as it is. Michael gets up to go pee a lot, so somebody had to take his spot while he was peeing. It's fine. It's fine, everybody.

This is your first time joining us on either of these weird spinoff shows, so do you want to tell people about all the fun podcasting you've done in the past? Not really, because I'll probably start bitching. We already did that. That's how I inspired him to join us tonight. I went on a rant for about two hours last night.

It's true. About podcasting and the difficulties of the world we live in where podcasting exists. And he was like, you know what? You sold me on it. Yep.

Wait, did you get poached? Were you poached from another podcast? Is that what's happening here? No. You're on hiatus.

Isn't that what I decided? I'm what they call, what roller coaster enthusiasts call SBNO, which means standing but not operating. The podcast is still on the website, but I do not do it anymore. So people are waiting in line with their tickets in hand, just waiting for you to just start clicking up the hill. That's what you're saying.

They say next year, 2016, might be the year in Louisville here for Twisted Sisters or Twisted Twins to come back. Also the UA to podcast. Maybe both of those things will be running trains again. That sounded really weird when I said it. Okay.

Yeah, it did. So. You are very schooled in the ways of podcasting. Just new to this show. Just new to this show.

I think I'm new to the Killer soundtrack. Have I done that before? You've been on there before. Have I? You've both been on there before.

And everybody always forgets. I have. It didn't go well. Well, see, what's funny is that time that you said you'd never been on there before, you'd been on there before. I had?

What was... You were both on the Christmas episode year before last. What did we talk about? Christmas. Oh, yeah.

I remember. Like you do. Five pound bag of money that you complain because it wasn't on a soundtrack. And then it was on a soundtrack. I found it.

What soundtrack was it on? You're a huge fan of Madea. So luckily, it. Happened to be on your favorite movie, Madea's Big Christmas Hijinx or whatever it was called. You go deep.

I like it. Oh, yeah. I remember that now. I remember talking about Christmas songs, but I wasn't aware. of where I was being filed at the time. I wasn't either.

You're both very unaware. Wait, there's a Christmas song called Five Pound Bag of Money? There is a song, yes. Okay, go on. Please continue.

Is this where we play it? I can't sing it. I'm not going to break into it. It's out of the holiday season. You're just going to have to reference it now.

Yeah, I've never heard of this song before. Google it. It'll be worthwhile. All right. It'll be worth your time.

It is an entertaining song in general, even funnier that it's a Christmas song. Yeah, it's Pearl Bailey. It's unbelievably good. All right. All right.

And it gets right at the heart of what Christmas is about, as you can imagine. It's right there in the title. Yeah. You don't even need to tweet about that. It's right there.

It says it all. We'll still tweet. We'll still tweet about it. Hate tweets. Fuck those guys.

Hashtag fuck those guys. That's our theme for the episode. Fuck those guys. Wait, wait, wait. Before we get started, can I say the name of the podcast that I don't do anymore?

Because I don't think I said it at all. Feel free to plug the thing that you don't do. It is called the You Ate It Podcast. Y-O-U-E-I-G-H-T-I-T. You can find that at www.youateit.com or on iTunes or any place else where podcasts are.

I guess they're all still there because I haven't checked in like six months. See, long-time listeners will recognize that because I used to play promos. Yeah. Before you were like, oh, by the way, I'm not doing that anymore. I was like, oh, I guess there's no point in me playing these promos.

My most famous guest was you. Really? Yeah. I'm not buying that. Well, I mean, I had an actual celebrity or two on once or twice, but for the purpose of this conversation, it was definitely you.

For the purpose of this made-up conversation, I'll go along with that. Kayfabe, baby. Good job. We did build a fort, by the way. We built a blanket fort when he was on the show.

Oh, my gosh. We sat in the blanket fort and talked about Garbage Pail Kids. Somewhere along the way, I'm sure we did. How do you incorporate that visual element into a podcast? Yeah, I kind of questioned that at the time.

I took a picture of it after I built the fort, and then we just climbed into the fort with the microphones, and we just kind of sat there. I think you can hear the atmosphere. Definitely. The ambiance of a blanket fort is like none other. Fair enough.

You can hear that they're sitting in a blanket fort. That's what I thought was awesome, because it is an audio format. We could have made it up. But we didn't. We broke down your entire living room, moved furniture, built a blanket for it, got inside, and did an entire segment or two, I think, of just talking about randomness.

Yeah, mostly toys and trading cards, if I remember correctly. Except for when I talk about music, which I guess we will do today. Are we ready to get into it? Yeah. You guys are excited.

Well, no, I feel like, I don't know if I've mentioned this before on any of the shows, but I kind of feel I should preface anything I say with just you have to understand that I'm full of a vast darkness. Yes. Again, long-time listeners will understand. And so, I mean, I just, I want people to understand that before I say anything about anyone ever. We're going to need you to be that darkness today.

But Lucy is full of light and joy. See, that's why they're here like this. Ping pong. That's what I'm saying. It's a good balance.

It's a good balance. Just don't get me started on Reese Witherspoon. Yeah, I know you're rooting for Reese and Wilde. I'm learning so much here. What is your problem with Reese Witherspoon?

We should have told each other before we started recording. Here comes the venom. No, we don't want to go there. You don't want to see it come out. I'll ask you after class.

It's fine. Claws retract. So that was the purpose for putting this together. I had been thinking about different types of episodes to do and specifically different type of music episodes along the way. And I thought about this recently because I was like, it's cool.

I've noticed in the last few years when We have one here, a movie theater that will play the entire run of all the short films that are nominated for the Oscars or the entire short animation feature. That's happening right now. Do what? At the Village 8. I know.

I was just there. That's what I'm saying. What did you see? I went to see Two Days, One Night. That's no Big Hero 6, but whatever.

Yeah, that's what we saw. It was pretty awesome, by the way. Also nominated for Best Animated Feature. Also available on my Roku box, which I had no idea about until I saw the ad for it today. I was like, I could have watched this at home.

You needed to get out of the house, damn it. I know. My agoraphobia surprises me even. How could you hear me bitching if you didn't come out of your house? That's an excellent point.

I'll take that. But, yeah, I was like, after that, I was like, well, obviously we can't show movies on the show. But since we do a music podcast now, we could actually set it up. play all the songs that are nominated for song and score, and then it's actually a functional episode. Because you know there's been many a year you're sitting there going, I heard one of these five songs. So it's like, this.

Would give people an excuse to be like, oh, I've heard all of the songs that are nominated. And you can make up your own mind and argue with the Oscars like we all do. I had a very similar revelation to what you just said this morning because I listened to all these songs and I realized I've seen one of these movies, which is more than I can say for most Oscar years. That's true. One movie I've seen.

Oh, really? making progress. Getting out of the house, watching one movie. Seeing one movie. But I saw that in my house. It was a Redbox situation.

All right. Well, we don't approve of that, but we'll let it slide. Okay. Since you've seen one movie now, you're making progress. All right.

All right. Do you want me to get into it? First up, we're going to start with score. Score. And I wanted to go with one that was kind of interesting.

So this would be the Grand Budapest Hotel, Alexander Desla. And the track, I was trying to pick something that at least tied in or had a nice... With any of the score, I'm just sort of going to pick one along the way that either is sort of main theme-like or just encompasses the best of what it's trying to do. So this one just had a hotel tie-in anyway. It's the new Lobby Boy.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I can sense the newness and the inexperience of the lobby boy. Alrighty.

So, any other thoughts on... We'll start with that song. On the scores, it's... probably my favorite Sklar. I agree. That's kind of why I wanted to kick it off with this one and get something kind of interesting right off the bat to sort.

Of ease us in because some of the other ones are more familiar. It has that kind of miniature toy quality that his films have and it seems like really right but it doesn't seem like it was just developed to be right for it and it has something extra about it. there's just like a little extra exuberance and uh he did write the score but i think he also used some. Like russian pulp yeah and i think that's like moonshine like this extra life. These traditional arrangements which. I was looking at that and i'm like what is the weird rules because oscars have so many freaking rules about this stuff that they will always disqualify people because i think that's why because i actually really just songs no because i know um Years ago, when the big deal the year that Dark Knight didn't get nominated for so many things, one of them was Hans Zimmer.

Did not get nominated for Best. Score because he also worked with all these other writers. So if it was more than a certain number of writers, you were disqualified. It was like six or more writers and you're disqualified from the running. I'm like, what the hell is that?

Because they just can't make that many Oscars? I don't know. I'm like, there's not even any reason? Like, that's just, nope, too many. The Academy can't afford it.

Academy, can we call bullshit? Because I don't understand what your stupid rules are. So I was like, but traditional? Like, anything that's that old is okay? I don't get that.

Yeah, that's the reason I looked that one up, because I just felt it had this infusion of something from somewhere beyond trying to create a score for a movie. And it turned out, yeah, he used some other stuff, but I don't know what the rules or the judgment... I do know on the songs, a lot of them are disqualified because it just has to be recorded for the movie. Yeah, specifically. It can't be pre-existing.

Or even, actually, it has to be written specifically. I don't even think you could have already published it in a previous year or something. And so a lot of things that people get online and argue, well, they ought to do this, they ought to do that, well, they're not eligible because... they were already existing. Because I think one of the most memorable, at least, if not impressive, I really thought that Birdman running track was amazing. I think a lot of that was pre-existing or mixed in.

He wrote original overall, but I think he worked in traditional jazz drumming along the way, and it was just enough that I think they were disqualified. And who wrote the score for that? I did. Oh my gosh, there is so much I don't know about you, Fred. I think...

When I hear this song, I think it does a really good job of conveying the kind of movie it's for. I think it does that. There are, what, four or five instrumental songs on this list we have. And out of those, two of those sound like iPhone commercials. One sounds like a cheap Philip Glass knockoff.

And this one sounds like it's for a Wes Anderson movie. It definitely does. Like, if you said, hey, compose me a song for a Wes Anderson movie, I would instantly grab, like, a toy piano. And I would grab, like, you know, a Play School xylophone. And I would start doing exactly what they did there.

So I think the message for, hey, this is this kind of movie, I think it really comes across really well with this piece. Yeah, and it's not like something that's a pre-existing sound like you would have in a recording program. You would press a button for European melancholy. Yeah. A music box sound.

And a lot of them have that for me. It's like they're what you would go to to be a parody of what it is. Right. Yes. And I don't know.

A lot of these things I found overall depressingly professional. Oh, yeah. Yes. Like they're well done, but they're just so... Very polished. by the numbers.

It sounds like somebody higher up said, write me an Oscar song. Yeah. Or that thing they do in advertising, like, you know, well, we can't get the Beatles, so have our guys do something like that. Sure. And they do that, like, especially corporations.

They will be like, what can we do that's just like that and insert it in there? And don't tell them that we're ripping off their song because we've heard that on a previous one of these episodes. They did that to a band and they were like, you could have just stolen that, you know, sound and done it anyway. They ended up paying them, but they were like, I don't know why they did that, really. They had one that was so close, people wouldn't have known the difference, but.

So, okay, I'm already uncomfortable with this conversation. Well, we've achieved our goal. Yes. Just relax. I feel completely out.

Of my element here, once again, on the soundtrack show. So what makes a good score? Because I feel like when I took film classes, we were sort of told that you don't notice a good score, that a score just heightens sort of the emotional response to scenes. Right. Like, listening to it and divorcing it from the imagery, is that a responsible way to judge?

Is that how we're judging? How are we judging? I like judging, I just don't know how. Yeah, I should say, I did see that movie. And my feelings about the other scores could really change if I saw the movie, and it might be effective, but.

Of the few that I have seen, some of them are really good within the context of it. And to be fair, you know, they say that what I, the little I know about score writing is you have to try to come up with, you have very little time to make an impression, and so you try to do things that people almost feel like they remember already. Like, you know, there's not time to get acquainted. You know, like cueing emotional responses based on. Shared memory.

And so I think it amplifies it when you just listen to the score divorced from the movie. You just go, it's so obvious what they're trying to do. And it seems manipulative. But I don't know. It may work.

Then I was trying to think, what are the sounds that, in the context of a movie, are transformed because they're in the movie? And one of the first ones I thought of was opera in Fitzcarraldo. because I'm not a big opera fan, but something about having it blaring from a ship going over falls in the Amazon, it's like, oh, I kind of get that now. Context is important. That's kind of what I wanted to do anyway. It's like, you'll have people.

We do enough with people in the industry, and I kind of like the idea of this being like, the Oscars are already so very fancy, and they have so many people that are so educated on what should be nominated and what should win, and I'm like, I think what we always do with our coverage, if you want to call it that, of the actual Oscars is very stripped down and a normal person. So I did kind of just want to get real responses. I'm like, okay, regardless of what's going to win, we're not going to have any effect on that. Just kind of, what do you think about this stuff? And like, I, I'm more interested to just sort of hear someone else's take on it along the way.

Cause it's nominated either way. It's like, we're not going to have any effect on whether it's nominated or who wins the prize. It's, I think it's ridiculous to try to give any of it a prize in art really anyway. But I do agree that like the nominating process does set the bar higher and does kind of make people hopefully, try to strive to do something better artistically that's arguable but again i don't mind the idea of the oscars i think the idea of one winner is sort of ridiculous but i like the idea of the nominees all being you know a certain level of achievement in theory so. That's my take.

That makes sense and also um this is just you know thinking about what you guys are saying um I recorded a soundtrack to a documentary once, and there's a long story behind that. Working in the industry, looking at you. It's a documentary about my parents' business, so obviously it makes sense that I would do that, and I play music, so whatever. But one of the things I tried to do was make music that stood on its own and sounded like something you could enjoy without ever having seen the movie. And also something that would fit the particular thing that I wanted it to play behind.

Now, my soundtrack didn't get used at all. So, you know, take that for whatever it's worth. Well, you know, the guy that made the movie ended up using music that his friends made. It wasn't like a major motion picture or anything by any means. But it was.

Can you plug the movie? It's called Fit for a King. And I have a box that I found in my parents' basement that had like 60 copies in it. And if I would have thought about it, I would have just said, here, you guys can have some. Because.

They were like, you can have that box if you want. For future prizes. I used to give them away to guests on the podcast. Thank you for showing up. Here's a documentary.

You don't have to watch it. You can sit something on it. So your parents were royalty? My parents make Elvis costumes. That's so much better.

I was thinking mattresses. Has this not come up on this show? Not on this show that I know of. I would watch the heck out of that documentary. I'll get you one.

Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, me too. I'm really excited now. The music's in the bonus features.

They made sure to put lots of bonus features in, so they used it behind the bonus features. But the point is, getting back to my original point. I could copy the movie and put your music on it for you. You could. You could take the soundtrack off and then do it as I originally intended.

Because it's all about me. Sort of like a director's cut, but the composer's cut. There should be more composer's cuts for movies. That's an excellent idea. I want a copy of Tim Burton's Batman with just the Prince music in it.

I second that emotion. I want Batdance playing during the cathedral fight scene. That would be amazing. Batdance is kind of the weak one, I hate to tell you. The rest of that album is pretty solid.

It's a funk up. No, but to end that, I just wanted to say that I thought it was an interesting challenge because I've made music my whole life, but I never had to do it with a purpose other than to satisfy the fact that I wanted to make music. And so it was neat to be like, okay, now I need to do something kind of sad because this is where my mom was going through cancer. And I already had pre-existing bits and pieces of things that I just kind of turned into something. It gave me an excuse to turn things that I probably wouldn't have used into something.

And I wonder, for major movies like these songs, how many of these were like, a guy was like, okay, I wrote this. a piece of a thing six years ago. Maybe I can turn that into a song for this movie. I got a page sitting in my bureau drawer. I wonder if I can work it into this. Exactly.

So I'm sure people do that. Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering about, I mean, I was looking at the sort of output that a lot of these dudes have had and they're doing like six or seven movies a year. I mean, one of them was on here twice.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And he did one of them in three weeks. I saw. Yeah.

And this is probably, I mean, most of them I've just sort of picked one piece. This one I was going to throw at least an extra little bit in here just because I wanted to prove a point about this soundtrack. So How all over the map is this soundtrack? Like, if you go through and listen to different points in it, you're listening to, like, six or eight different soundtracks. Like, it is so just amazing the, like, the spectrum of music that is in this one soundtrack.

And that's kind of why I was just like, this is where I want to start off. This is some of the more interesting stuff I want to get into because I feel like This guy put a lot of work into creating not just the mood for the movie, but the mood for each individual scene along the way. Right. And did you recognize that music, Mike? Was that from Big Hero 6?

No, but this was on the internet here. And if you scroll down long enough, somebody mentioned that track. And I looked at it, and they said it sounded very Castlevania-y. Oh, yeah. It sounds kind of like Castlevania.

I was like, that's a good point. But again, that compared to that first track we listened to, that's a pretty big spectrum right there. Both of those are from the Grand Budapest Hotel. The only movie I've seen, by the way, on this list. It does sound Castlevania, but it sounds a little bit like it might be kidding, too.

It sounds like it knows it sounds like it. It sounds very Wes Anderson. He's always kind of like, I know I'm being kind of goofy. Here, but it's okay. That's true, that's true.

He knows what he's doing. All right, I say we move on at this point. Let's see. So next up, we have an actual movie star herself. Lost Stars from Begin Again, performed by Keira Knightley.

Music and lyric by Greg Alexander and Danielle Brisbos. Please don't say. Just a girl caught up in dreams and fantasies Please see me. Reaching out for someone I can see Take my hand, let's see when we wake up tomorrow Best laid plans. Sometimes are just a one-night stand I'll be damned, Cupid's demanding back his arrow So let's get drunk on our tears and go Tell.

Us the reason youth is wasted. On the yearn It's. Hunting season And this lamb is. On the run. We're searching for meaning But are we.

All lost stars Trying to light up the dark. Who are we? Just a speck of dust within the galaxy. What is me? If we're not careful, turns into reality Don't you dare let our best memories bring you sorrow Yesterday I saw a lion kiss a deer Turn the page, maybe we'll find a brand new ending Where we're dancing in our tears And God, tell.

Us the reason If it's wasted on the year It's hunting season And this lamb is on the. Run We're searching for meaning But are we? For meaning But are we all. Lost stars Trying to light up the dark I thought I saw you out there crying I thought I heard you call my name I thought I heard you out there crying But. Just the same.

And God tell. Us the reason Youth is wasted on the young It's hunting season And this lamb is on the. Run Searching for meaning. But are we all. Lost stars Trying to light Up the dark Are we all Lost stars.

Trying to light. Oh, so that's the version. I think I was clicking on all the links wrong. So this is not the Adam Levine version. There is a version.

There's two different Adam Levine versions and a Keira Knightley version, right? Within the movie, Adam Levine. I have seen this movie. Does perform it as well. It was not terrible.

Which is kind of an endorsement for me. Because from just hearing the soundtrack, I would guess that it was horrible. That would have been my bad. If you clicked on the link that Brian sent, then that is actually the version that Adam Levine sings in his sellout scene. That's not what was playing on mine when I... had that so whatever happened with that link i don't know but mine is the kira knightley version the movie's.

All about how he wrote this beautiful song about them and their love and then he sold out and then it became this terrible pop song so this is the song this is the song oh there's versions of the song there's like the like you know kind of toned down like here i guess before. He sold out his version After he sold out his version and then her for real, you know. She's the one that actually has heart. Let me ask you this, though. Are the lyrics the same in these different versions?

Yes. They are the same. But it's the guy from the New Radicals. And if you hear it, you're like, oh, that is a New Radicals song, which I didn't realize until. No, if I hear that guy, I'd go, oh, that's a Todd Rundgren song.

Well, not the voice, but the structure of the song. But yeah, the Adam Levine thing where he gets all high and crazy at the end, that's the sellout version. Oh my God, no kidding. But does it still have the line, woe is me in it? I can't.

It's been a while. It's been a minute. And does the lion still kiss a deer or whatever the fuck is going on in that song? And allow me to say that I. Only thought that it was not terrible because what did the writer-director do?

What was that terrible movie that then went to Broadway? Spider-Man turned off. That wasn't a movie. I just got really excited. Once?

Once, yes. I hated Once so much. Me too. It was so boring. Yeah, it was terrible.

Terrible. You two are selling me on both of these movies. I totally want to see them now. Yes, and they were wrong. I haven't heard anything that sounded Oscar-worthy in like 15 minutes.

This is terrible. Yeah, and then overwrought. Why don't they give Oscars to video games? Thank you. That's what I'm here for.

I'm here to validate people's hatred of film. You see what happened here? Light and dark just made an eclipse. And that's why I always go the opposite way of either of probably. I'm just like, oh, Lucy hated that?

I'm going to watch this movie. So how did you like War Horse? I don't know. I don't watch movies. What's a movie?

Exactly. Oh, War Horse. I think that was the biggest showdown that I've had on there. We got in the trenches with War Horse. Wait, you liked War Horse?

No. She loves War Horse. You told that delightful story about going to see it. That was one of my favorite stories ever. That just wasn't very good, was it?

Poor dad. So... I don't know. Because that was my take. I like the Keira Knightley.

At least I was surprised that she actually has a pretty decent voice. Lovely. And to me, that one, I didn't even get the New Radicals version. I'm listening to it, hearing all these old bands, and I'm like, she probably grew up listening. Because she starts singing, and I'm like, this sounds like a Cardigan song.

It's like, I'm like, these are probably around the time she was listening to stuff growing up, too. So I'm like, I wonder how much of that kind of thing that she grew up listening to influences the way she performs now as a singer, especially this very singer-songwriter kind of style. But I thought she had a really good voice. She might be a perfect person. I hate those people.

Fuck those guys. Hashtag fuck those guys. Hashtag fuck those guys. Really? Her neck scares me, and I'm like, more of her neck for me then.

Well, she's no Anne Hathaway. They both have freakish necks. Yeah, but there's something about Anne Hathaway. But I do, like, I kind of got to respect Keira Knightley a little more when she totally called them out for airbrushing and or doctoring up her poster art from that terrible pirate-y night movie she was in. And, like, since then, she's gone on to, like, totally call it, she did that whole weird, like, I'll pose totally nude, you know, if you'll.

Run it without airbrushing. Like, she did another one of those this past year that she's just like, I think this is bullshit. I don't think you need to be, like, doctoring up the photos quite that much. So yeah, I do like that she's called them out for that several times in her career. So just for that, I kind of give her points that she's pretty cool.

And I kind of forget she's a really good actress. She gets thrown in so many movies as the year goes on that you kind of. Lose track of like, oh, she is really a good actress. Is that why they call it casting? They just throw them into a movie?

Pretty sure. Have you seen some of these? I will say this in the Keira Knightley and Hathaway debate, if that is the debate that we're about to have. Yes, it is. Let's go.

This is just totally... I'm sorry. This is tangential, but I apologize in advance, Brian. But I did like a lot that in the, oh my gosh, I've already forgotten. What's the Alan Turing movie called?

I don't know. You know, The Imitation Game. The Imitation Game. Keira Knightley plays a really smart person who you believe is a really smart person. Okay.

In the Chris Nolan movie. Princess Diaries? Yes. Yeah. I'm forgetting all my movie titles this year.

What's the space movie with Matthew McConaughey? Oh, Interstellar. Interstellar. Anne Hathaway plays a really smart person that you do not believe is even like. Oh, I never once said I thought she was smart or that she could play smart.

Okay. That's not what this debate is about. He's just all about that neck. I'm just saying... Okay, before I say that, I don't watch many movies, so could somebody please tell me a movie that I might have seen that had Keira Knightland? because I haven't seen this one.

What were some movies that. I. Feel like Atonement was her giant breakout movie. I hated that movie. That's very Oscar-y, though.

I'm trying to think of, like, normal crap. Yeah. Give me something PG-13. Those don't get nominated for Oscar. There you go.

Was she in Pride and Prejudice? Again, that's very Oscar-y. Was that just somebody who looks like her? That's called Natalie Portman. So what has she been in, like, mainstream, where she doesn't have an accent?

Well, she was in the Pirate movie. Oh, yeah. That was dumb. Yeah. Actually, the first one's not bad, if you don't know who Johnny Depp is.

Oh, Johnny Depp, I thought you were talking about, you said the first one, I thought they made a sequel to the Russell Crowe pirate movie. No, no. What was that one? Master and Commander, Far Side of the Sun. Yeah.

Oh, let's scroll down while we're on the tangent here. What was it? It was Master and Commander, Far Side of the title of this movie. Lord of the Apes. I was going to say, I saw five minutes of Master and Commander, and I thought that water looked amazing.

That boat was so dark in that water. That ocean was so dark. Aside from initially actually pretending to be Natalie Portman, which is what makes that point, again, how can we forget the Oscar-nominated Bend It Like Beckham? Didn't see it. I think I'm exaggerating a little on that.

She was in that? Yeah. That was a great little movie. She's the other main girl. That was a neat little movie.

Love Actually. Didn't see it. It's a very questionable relationship going on there. Love Questionably. Love, are you fucking serious?

Domino, do you like kicking ass? Thank you. Because Domino. Kicking ass is all right. I haven't seen Domino.

There's one for your list. All right. That one is not Oscar-y at all. What list am I putting this on? Ass-kicking movies that are directed by a crazy Tony Scott.

Oh, okay. Crazy. That was when he went off the rails, which he literally did. No offense to the Scott family. But he did everything else is very.

I don't know serious oscar either oh period costume dramas i know you like the extra. Yeah well yeah there's a debate about that because it's a feminine ending and uh i think nabokov said that it wouldn't be anna karenina it would It would be the male ending Karenina. Unless you're a ballerina or a celebrity then they do the feminine because you're your own entity somehow. That's why other languages are dumb. Yeah.

That's why English rules the world motherfuckers. Hashtag fuck those guys. In any language you can say it. All right. We all love Keira Knightley.

That's the moral of the story. Regardless of whether you like the song or not, Keira Knightley's pretty cool. I don't know if I like her that much. Do you like her now? She is certainly attractive.

She has a great smile and a great neck. Wait, is she the one in those vampire, or she fights wolves or robots or something? And they made nine of them? No, they're not. That'd be Mila.

Who is it? Kate Beckinsale. Or Mila. Take your pick. I know who Mila Jovovich is.

Okay. I had her album. She fights zombies that are kind of like werewolves, and the other one fights werewolves that are kind of like zombies, but they're vampires. It's all very complicated. Werewolves with robot heads.

Now I'm hooked. IMAX that shit right now. I was looking for memorable short films, and I asked around, who has a favorite short film? Because all my favorites don't exist anymore. I'm going to have to email the author of one of these stories and say, Does this thing still exist?

I watched it. It's one of my favorite short films. It's not online anywhere. It's not mentioned. But Bo, our friend Bo.

Bo's in Boston. Bo, lover of War Horse. He said, oh, here's this movie, Flip, and posted a link. And it was fucking fantastic. And the genius thing in it is a gorilla with a robot head.

That's just the greatest thing I've ever seen. It's an amazing little film. Yeah. I like when you juxtapose anything gorilla with robot or car that floats on water. Yes, it's all of that.

These are good movies. Eyes with legs and they just walk around. That's all amazing to me. All of this. Put it all in the same movie.

So that's our first song we're discussing. There was two. It's going to be several parts, isn't it? Why did you ask me to come on? You should have known this was going to happen.

Did we cover all the versions of this song, or are there more out there? So that's interesting that that's the one they chose. Is that how it works, or is that the one they put up for nomination? Well, see, they do that. Because that's, I mean, a lot of times, and that will come up later on this episode or the next episode.

They put up the sellout version for the Oscar. Well, no, they will, I mean. it's their movie. So they can rework the songs however they want. And a lot of times they will do multiple versions for the soundtrack to work in at different times in there. But then I don't know who gets to pick what version.

See how I would guess that works is they pick the version that was published that has the, uh, like whatever was turned in to have the rights written. They, they just use the original. This is the song. And then, any version that's made of that particular song still falls under the same song. But who gets to pick which version is then the officially...

Because this one, I think, on the Oscar website specifically said Keira Knightley. I think it's usually Al Pacino has the final say. And he was like, I would like to see that pretty lady with the neck on stage and not that Adam Levine douchebag. That's why we love Al Pacino. He makes the right call.

That's why they always cut to him during the show. It's like this is his... His decision. My only thing when I listened to this song, I didn't have much of an opinion about it, but I did think Adam Levine's the guy on The Voice, right? That is correct.

And he was in Maroon 5. Also correct. And sadly, I believe he's still in Maroon 5. Okay, really? Yes.

This was the first, I don't know much of his story, but this was the first time I ever heard him sing where I thought, I can see why he's on a show like that. Because otherwise I was like, is he on here because he's pretty? Like I'd heard one Maroon 5 song. Whichever one got super popular. Have you seen that clip where it's a hidden camera thing but not where they go to weddings and they basically have Maroon 5 crash the weddings where there's like, there's a secret band playing at your wedding and then they pull up a veil and it's Maroon 5 and then the bride and groom freak out.

I was like, I would freak out but for very different reasons. Yeah, me too. What if you were like, I don't care. What if you were just angry? I would not feel good about it.

Way to ruin my wedding day. Marilyn Manson going. Door to door trying to shock people. Comes to your door. Isn't that kind of what he does?

At this point, that's kind of where he's at now. Anyway. Well, I guess you'd have to go like, well, at least it's not you two. Yeah. Truth.

Did Hold Me, Cure Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me get nominated for an Oscar? Not to bring it back to Batman again, but... Might have. That's the only U2 song that. Was actually good.

Probably nudged out by A Kiss for a Rose. Oh, shit. The 90s. Fuck. You can't fight the 90s.

Oh, shit. The 90s. Fuck. Hashtag oh, shit. Hashtag fuck those guys.

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Education has never been so wow! Hi, this is Emma Caulfield, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. All right, The Theory of Everything. Yeah. By Johan Johansson.

This would be the first track, Cambridge, 1963. Thank you. Thank you. It is the most important part of the process. It is the most important part of the process.

It is the most important part I also did not know that we only had to listen to a track. I actually endured. I mean, that was you. The entirety of this one worked. That's why when I sent.

It, I gave the tracks, but you're free to listen to whatever you want. I just got a YouTube. Oh, like you were telling us, that's the one to... I'm so bad at reading directions, apparently. I thought I was good at it.

Way to accidentally go above and beyond the call of duty. Way to accidentally excel. Oh, man, I hate it when I do something I don't get credit for. That's my whole philosophy of life. Yeah.

Well, then, okay, you've... You've listened to a good amount of it. So aside from Cambridge 1963, what do you think of The Theory of Everything? I mean, I don't know. It was fine.

This is where I feel like I'm not in a position to weigh in. Did you find you wanted to take a nap somewhere in the middle of it? I kind of felt that way about all of these. Most of them. And no offense to any of them, but the middle ones here are all kind of As we've said many times, Oscar-y.

They're very much what I expected, especially in this type of movie. So expected. I even got a very, specifically The Theory of Everything, it doesn't really sound like it because I think he's a maybe, I don't know if he's a better composer, but he's more original would be the Social Network soundtrack. Because we even get that time period at Ivy League kind of schools. It's a very similar vibe.

And as I got into it, I was like, I can kind of hear that without the weird edgy thing that he was throwing in there on that one. Wait, he did that soundtrack as well? Wait, what are you saying? No, I was just comparing it to. To me, it sounds like a stripped down version of kind of what the social networker was going for, but without... the interesting little weird stuff that Trent Reznor.

Was putting in there. Oh, right. That was Trent Reznor. To me, this is like the boring version of the social network. Here are the things that I like about it.

I like that his name is Johan Johannesson. I like that he's from Reykjavik. I like... No, that's pretty much it. You just like saying fun words.

At any point, did listening to this soundtrack make you want to buy an iPhone? Because that was what I wrote in my notes. This makes me want to buy a phone. That's hilarious. No, it made me, when I listened to it, it made me sing that Billy Preston song.

Come give me your softness. Comfort me with all. It has the exact same, yeah, the clip I heard sounded like that treacly old Billy Preston tune. Well, now it's disqualified. Way to go.

Now we never get to hear anybody say Johan Johansson from the stage. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know what we say about this one. Yeah. I mean, that was my take on it.

I was like, there's nothing wrong with it. It's very polished. It's very well put together. Just by the numbers. I did see this movie.

Yeah. I don't remember it standing out. See, and that is like, refer to the point you brought up. Like, it is a fine line whether like, is it doing this job better if you don't notice it as being a background score kind of thing? Or does it, is it more impressive because you are walking out of the theater humming it?

Because I'm guessing you weren't doing that with the theory of everything. Here's what I think about that. And that's why, you know, like, although I hate almost everything we've listened to, almost. And in life. I love this guy.

Yeah, I say that with, you know, I want to preface that. Like, if I saw it with the movie, it could really change because, There is a weird, fine line, especially if you think of Jaws. I know the first time Spielberg heard the theme for Jaws, he didn't know if it was a joke. He didn't know if. He was being punked.

He was like, really? Are you kidding me? I think I said, no, that's the theme for Jaws. And everybody was aware of that theme, but it still worked. It was very effective, and yet everybody, like, uh, was super aware of it.

It was like, wow. Um, theme song can get right in your face and still do its job. I mean, it, it almost makes most of those scenes, you know, it's like without that, if you strip that away and just watch them, they're probably still well shot, but are. They near as tense? And do they freak people out the same without that weird pulsating?

Yeah. It might've been to them not being able to get the footage they needed. Yeah. and so the theme music sort of carried the scenes where they couldn't get the damn. Shark I mean that whole first two thirds it's like it's all about POV of the shark and the music and that becomes our villain our main character whatever you want to call the shark it's like he that's the way we see him up until two thirds of the way into the movie so it's yeah it's pretty effective as themes go and you can have like. A really technically like unimpressive theme that works really well for the film like I don't know.

Any of those sort of like atonal two note sort of background. John Carpenter. Who does it masterfully. Most years they have like an understated song, like not a musically impressive, but just like a little charming thing. They don't really have that this year.

Yeah. They're all kind of. I think her had that ukulele song. Yeah. And it's just like, it's, And even, I remember Reds that had a ukulele song in it that stayed in my head a long time ago.

You just really like ukuleles. Could be. Well, and then, you know, like Juno had that goofy song that was not even quite a song. It was just, like, silly. We may have played it previously.

Was it like the intro song, the opening? I don't know. It's the one with the funny lyrics. Yeah. I think that, yeah.

It's pretty catchy, though. Yeah. For a non-song, it's pretty catchy. They don't have anything like that this year, but a lot of times they will do something that's just odd and accessible in the sense that the characters could play it. We have that on the song side, but score is all pretty by the numbers.

Yeah, but... To speak to that, in terms of, I mean, how many original songs are there? Like, I mean, when you look at this list, it's not an impressive list, which makes me wonder if these are, in fact, the only five original songs written for film this year. I mean, like, when you drag out that Rita Ora song, which I guess we'll get to at some point. I have a special affection for the Lego song.

It's not a bad song. It's just I heard it and I was like, it's not really. But when I saw that movie, I mean, everybody was singing that movie out of the theater and then for the next three weeks. And, I mean, that song's got something. I don't know.

It's terrible, but it's great. To me, it just sounds like Tom. Wait, we're not there yet. What's the name? Tom.

Bless Brian's heart. We're not there yet. Parks and Rec. Tom Haverford. Yeah.

It sounds like he did Coke and made up a song. That's kind of what I thought. I mean, that's kind of what happened, though. But is that worth an Oscar? It's like the lonely...

Planet guy? The Lonely Island. Lonely Island. Who are on this list eventually. The Lonely Island folks.

I don't want to skip ahead, but if you look at the Wikipedia entry of the guy who's credited with writing that song, it's amazing. It's adorable. I suggest everybody, unless they've taken it down by that point, because I feel like he probably updates it daily to make sure it stays there. But the personal life, he clearly wrote his own Wikipedia entry. So the personal life is like, 20 paragraphs about like the first time he saw Star Wars and like how he loves the movie Superman and then like the career paragraph is like half a paragraph which is like you know the five things he's done which is mostly writing for Robot Chicken.

I don't want to derail this again but you reminded me of the time that my mom decided the family business needed a Wikipedia page so she wrote the Wikipedia page and then gave it to me to read it and it was very Butch and Kim were high school sweethearts, and they loved each other so much. That's exactly what this is. One time, Butch asked Kim out on a date, and I was like, Mom, you can't use any of this. Why not? Wikipedia rules.

It sounds a little too close to the fire. It has to be published stuff. Yeah, there were no notes. It has to be written by a third party, right? An unbiased third party?

I don't get that vibe from it at all. To me, that song sounds like presentation music for a pyramid scheme. Yeah. Everything is awesome. We're going to make a lot of money.

It's fantastic. Everybody get on board and bring your friends in. But that's part of the joke. I think that's why it's so genius, actually. It's exactly what it does really well.

It's really effective in the movie. I mean, that is what it becomes within the movie. Well, then I sit corrected because that makes all kinds of sense. Yeah, it's satire. Yeah, it plays both ends.

It is like this whole... the way that he thinks is built around teamwork. But there's this underlying, like, socialist message going on, or communist message. Depending on how deep you want to take these things, that, like, there's this weird, understated thing going on that becomes very obvious as the movie goes on. But it's built on, like, a very simple premise and simple tune that, like, again. is the. Kind of thing that's so simple it could be spoon-fed to a society.

And they would eat it up, and they would love it. Oh, okay. It's pretty genius, actually. All right. So.

But we're not there yet. We're not there yet. Let's forget we had this conversation. Yeah, we'll just do all of this over again when we get there. Yep.

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This one I actually liked. There was enough dissonance to keep me motivated to continue to see where the resolve was. Because it was like, oh, a sour thing just happened. Oh, a sour thing just happened. Okay, now it's kind of pretty again.

It made me. Interested to see what the story would be. Yeah. This is the one I hated the most. Well, it feels like it's doing something different, but very purposefully different in that opening track there.

It seems like he's almost oddly bending the notes and going out of his way to make it a little weird. But I feel like as you get further into the score, it does get a little more traditional of that period piece. Kind of, let's make a movie about an artist, which Fred loves. This is the one movie I ate that I had not seen that was nominated for score. You've seen all of the rest of the movies?

I have. For score. What are you saying? Because I tend to hate movies about artists. Well, that's just of the many things you hate in the universe.

I know you're not a fan of art. Biopic kind of nonsense. No, I'm not. Not usually. I did like, what was the one?

Oh, I can't think of her name now. It's going to kill me. Throw me a lifeline. What are we talking about right now? The one where, who's the one French actor who by law, Gerard Depardieu has to be in every French movie, or he did for a while.

He played Rodin in the movie about the sculptor. Rodin versus Godzilla. He played Rodin. She was his student, mistress, and an artist in her own right. Sounds like a very original film.

Oh, it was a great movie. It was like the best artist biopic I've ever seen. Wow. I thought the movie about Harvey, what's his name, that was friends with Robert Crump, Harvey P. Carr.

That's a good movie. I thought that was a good movie about an artist. Arguably an artist. Camille Claudel. I just looked it up.

Camille Claudel. Excellent work. Yeah. And part of it was shot in. The Grand Palais, where at one time I had some work hanging in the Young Painters Show.

Is that a fact? That's a fact. Wow. Yeah, there's a moment where you can go up over her shoulder, up there, right up there. That was where my stuff was.

Oh, my gracious. Where is that piece now? It's in my attic. What? Why is it in your attic?

Until your biopic comes out, that's where. It will be. It was a direction I decided was like I couldn't live going in that direction. I couldn't do it. But it was cool for a while.

And Joe Downing was there when I was there. Told me I had the best piece in the show. He was so sweet. To continue answering follow-up questions, American Splendor is the movie about Harvey Pekar, which is actually very good. And from a while ago.

That was good. I don't... I have to. Different kind of artist. Yeah.

I didn't include that. As, yeah, I should have. But it's not really, the art you're talking about is not Harvey Pekar art. No, it's not even that. It's true.

For a long time, Camille Claudel was the only one, and I got in the habit of saying that, and then I saw another one, and I never updated. You need to update your files. I just say things that I say. It's a new update. You have to reboot yourself.

And Birdman is the scores performed by Antonio Sanchez. From a while ago, when you asked. Thank you. For the person that has been screaming at their computer for the last hour and a half. Like, I get no respect, damn you.

So since we already brought it up, let's just round this one out with Everything is Awesome. Music and lyric by Sean Patterson, who has an adorable website. It is precious. Go there while it's still up. It was on Wikipedia.

Yes. I think he has his own page, too, that probably is relatively close to that. Because it had a whole lot of his crazy TV credits. Didn't he win an Emmy along the way for Robot Chicken? I feel like he does a lot of journaling.

He does a lot of crazy. He actually has. His own Wikipedia. It's just his Wikipedia. He has entries on everything in the world that he wrote.

But see, this is one of those that. Fell into that same category, wherein within that movie, there are multiple versions. They're specifically the one that's played in there, which is what I'm going to play, because I feel like that's the one that is referenced within the movie, that is within context of what's going on, the one that the characters hear. Now, Tegan and Sarah do the single version that then plays during the credits, and I couldn't find what they've linked specifically to the nomination, what they're going to go with, Are they going to drag them out on stage and have them perform because they're more of a name, which may be the case. But to me, it's like the one in the movie feels like the one that should be used.

And sometimes they play that game of like, who do we want to get to come? Because the last year, the freaking Frozen, which everybody loved that song. You know, I still have never heard that song. I'm not even sure that's possible. It was performed by.

If you have left your house in the last year and a half... Yeah. I don't know if that's possible. Or even like if you're just sleeping at home with your head on a pillow, somebody would break in and sing it into your ear. They talk about it at work all the time because Frozen was a favorite movie among my coworkers.

I got to admit, I don't hate the movie. I think it's pretty good. I also saw it with a five-year-old girl, so I watched her enjoy it, which sort of raises the bar a little bit. It sounds like it would be a great movie. I've just never heard the song.

That I know of. It's performed by Kwame O'Claudel. All right. Or whatever the hell Jean Travolta said. It's performed by Adit Aziz.

Adit Aziz. And it plays during the cathedral scene in Batman. Gotcha. But that was the thing. She does it within the movie.

She's the big Broadway star, so that's who they go with. But within that same soundtrack, Demi Lovato covers it, too. Truthfully, I like her version better, so take that, Kwame O'Claudel. Hashtag fuck those guys. Yeah.

Whoever that is so i'm like why why do they get to pick never heard it because. They wanted to get her because. They wanted to get her to come to the oscars so they pick that version like i don't know i was like who decides which version within the soundtrack gets nominated it's very. Patino yeah i think it's going to be tegan and sarah and like animated lego like lego dancers. And lonely island Yes.

I think they're going to want to get Lonely Island there. What they need to do is they need to get dancers. They need to put a Lego backdrop and have dancers with things that attach to them so they can build onto themselves a statue in the background. Is it too late to get you working on the Oscars? We need to get you in touch with the producers right now.

It's not too late for them, but it's too late for me personally. In general. Hashtag fuck those guys. I agree. It is too late for you, but it's not too late for this episode.

So, obviously, we've just gone halfway into this deal, so I say we wrap this one up. We come back next week and we talk about the rest of the songs. Okay. to be continued to be continued and until then just keep humming to yourself everything is awesome because once you hear this you cannot have it in your head for the next I don't know rest of your life there's no escaping everything is awesome another reason I think it's kind of genius and it works because it It works in a weird earworm way that seems like it would actually just burrow itself into your brain like. A good, you know, jingle would do. And, you know, again, kind of why that song works so well within the context of the movie.

Can I ask your listeners for a request before the next episode? You can. They usually don't care. Somebody please make me a mix CD or MP3 thumb drive thing and put songs that are all everything themed. Like, everything is awesome and everything is beautiful.

What is that, Ray Stevens? Everything is beautiful. That song? In its own way. Anything that has everything in it.

R-E-M, the everything. R-E-M. Hurts? Is that it? Everything hurts.

Everything hurts. Everything hurts. No, you are the everything. Okay. Yeah.

So there is a list of songs with that in the title, right? Does it start with everything or everything just has to be in there? Everything just has to be in there. Everything. Everything is awesome.

All right. Well, with that, we will round out this episode. And remind you, Get a Life will provide the soundtrack. Everything is awesome Everything is cool when we're part of a team Everything is awesome When we're living our dream Everything is better when we stick together Side by side, you and I, going forever Let's party forever We're the same, I like you, you like me. We're all working in harmony.

Everything is our sound. Everything is cool when you're part of the team. Everything is our sound. Let's see those smiles all around. Riding scooters through the park.

Getting home before it's dark. Comfy shoes and candy bars. Playing tunes on my guitar. Swimsuit, summer dress. Playing on the beach the best.

Skin, milk, white, red. Got my homework weeks ahead. Skipping stones and best friend bracelets. Lemonade, I like to make it. Up recycling, mountain biking.

Let's go hiking. Make sure your shoes are tied. Everything is awesome. Everything is cool when you're part of a team. Everything is awesome when we're living our dream.

Oh, there's another movie called Theory of Everything. Nobody can hear you anyway, so it doesn't matter. There is another movie called The Theory of Everything. 2006, I think. Are you getting money off this?

Are you in fact an executive producer? No, it sounds like it sounds just like depressing and Or it's like a guy is trying to work out the theory. It's like, I think, a Christian-themed movie where a guy's trying to work out the theory of everything, and he thinks it'll prove God, the existence of God, but then he has Alzheimer's, and he knew he was looking for something. It's like memento meets pie. But he's not sure what it was.

I mean, it may be a very touching movie. I haven't seen it. I'm just mocking it. Like you do. Yeah, just sight unseen.

That's how we roll. Memento meets pie. I wanted to mock it like 20 feet away from the microphone so I could just be a voice in the wilderness, but no, you brought me back. Every time I think I'm out, you bring me back. Everything is awesome.

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