About this episode
Attack of the Killer Soundtrack #23 - Attack of the Oscar Nominees 2 This episode we're back to round out the rest of this year's musical Oscar nominees. And along the way we have some pretty interesting movie/music discussions. And as we learn who the Meryl Streep of the best song category is, we also mention... the biggest can of worms ever, squeezing it for show biz juice, Alicia Keys syndrome, Free Bird, wildly exploitative, my attention span in the age of the internet has shot down dramatically, that category was really full this year, the honor of being nominated, Laura Dern, I'm always looking for the palace shaped like a penis, depressingly professional, this is why you don't watch Oprah, I might be making that up, The Aristocats, Rock Steady, Reese Withersppon vs. Julia Stiles, Man in the Moon, none of the disciples are wearing shirts, The Beatles Anthology treatment, Phillip Glass except for normal people, intellectual hip hop that white people like, Sleeping Bag, late John Lennon, I have to spend 85-minutes here looking at the television, Total Eclipse of the Heart, she looks like Anne Hathaway at the beginning of The Princess Diaries, exploiting something serious just to further people's careers, explaining to your where the depth is... because you might miss it, Oprah hates it when Gayle sings along to it, a show about dental hygienists who are best friends, singing your own muzak, I took a picture of him eating soup once, the back end of Abbey Road and the rest get thrown into a pit full of fire and wolves and gorillas with robot heads. Spoiler Alert: Mild "Newsroom" spoiler... you have been warned. "Yeah... what are you going to do? Make an imaginary guy change his favorite song, on the day of his non-existent wedding?"
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I'm Fred. I'm Lucy. I'm Michael. And we are back to round out this crazy Oscar episode. I have an important story to tell.
Oh, God. Since we recorded the last episode, somebody took it upon themselves to send me a hard drive with a lot of memory, and they misunderstood my request the last episode, and they sent me a hard drive with everything on it. Oh. The whole internet. The universe is all contained.
That's a pretty big hard drive. A couple terabytes. And how much of it was awesome? But contained within there is also all the songs you asked for. Right.
You have that going for you. And the secrets of the universe. What was most awesome is that everything can be compressed to a few terabytes on a hard drive. That's amazing. It was a pretty big hard drive.
But still, it is impressive how much we can compress things. I mean, when you unzip it, it's all lossy. I don't want to get into the technical aspect of that. That's not where I just took that in. But anyway...
It's a different podcast. It's a different podcast. Anyway, anything you guys would like to lead off with? I think we just sabotaged right from the get-go. On one of the previous episodes I was listening to, Killer Soundtrack, I was really impressed with some of the picks for best movie songs.
Like the Kubrick picks. What was that guy's name? Doug Bradley? I think so. Because that guy's awesome.
Again, that was my whole reason for doing it. You wouldn't expect us to sit down with a horror icon and talk music from the 60s and growing up in Liverpool and all this weird, cool music tie-in. He's pretty amazing. That turned out to be pretty great. And I just We're sitting there going, just keep talking about music because this is awesome.
So I was just thinking as a counterbalance for my feelings about these movie songs that we're discussing, I was thinking of some of the greatest all-time movie songs. Not necessarily Oscar songs, just great movie songs. Well, I was thinking about. Shouldn't that be its own episode? Don't you want to do Fred's picks of greatest movie songs ever?
I don't know. I don't know if my observations have that much scope. I want to hear your observations. That's what I'm saying. I think you warrant your own movie picks episodes.
I say you just start writing those down right now. And this week we'll just round out the Oscars. Because I think we're just opening the biggest can of worms ever when Fred's favorite movie songs come out. Well, I've already mentioned, like, you know, Fitzcarraldo, like, recontextualized opera for me. The opposite of that, I think, was Freebird in Elizabethtown.
That may be the worst thing I've ever seen. You do love you some Skinner. Well, you know, they said, you know, yeah, we're doing Freebird in the movie, but it's okay. I think Jim James said, it's okay, though, because it's the guy's favorite and it's his wedding. And I'm like, yeah.
What are you going to do? Make an imaginary guy change his favorite song on the day of his non-existent wedding? No, you've got to do Free Bird. Naturally. Performed by Adam Levine.
Yeah. Call back till last episode. Yeah. Anyway, then I'll just say one of my favorite songs of all time. A lot of my favorite.
Songs in a movie were in Boogie Nights. I just love that soundtrack. But I really love the one they were trying to record. Yes. Well, that one's awesome because it's a movie song within another movie itself, and it just loops upon it.
Wait, are we talking about Feel the Heat, Feel My Heat, or You Got the Touch? Because they did both. Of those, right? That's the one I was thinking of. You Got the Touch is its own movie song that then gets looped into that movie.
In my director's cut, they just go from one end. To the other. Well, and isn't it odd that. It's kind of like Abbey Road. The back end of Abbey Road?
The Boogie Nights character then ends up in Transformers. Ah, I figured that out. It's all been in. The fast-talking guy in Transformers. What a lousy...
Let's not talk about Transformers. Let's move on. Yeah, so I didn't want this one to be our final song because it's going to be depressing. So I thought we would lead off with that, and then we can work our way out of it. I'm not ready for this.
I mean, that's kind of what sells this song, is how sad and emotional it kind of is. This is I'm Not Gonna Miss You from Glen Campbell, and the documentary they made about him, which I don't think I knew was out there until it got nominated for this, and now I'm kind of like, well, now I guess I need to see this, because Glen Campbell, It'll Be Me is the movie, and the... Music and lyrics by Glen Campbell and Julian Raymond. I'm still here, but yet I'm. Gone I.
Don't play guitar or sing my song It never defined who I am The man that loved you till. The end. You're the last person. I will love You're the last place I will recall. I'm not gonna miss you.
I'm not gonna miss you. I'm never gonna hold you like I did. I say I love you to the kids You're. Never gonna see it in my eyes. It's not gonna hurt me when you cry I'm.
Never gonna know what you go. Through I'm not gonna miss you. I'm not gonna miss you. Was it nominated for a documentary as well? I don't think it was.
We can double check. I'm a fan of Glen Campbell. I've had three favorite songs in my life. One was Total Eclipse of the Heart. Nice.
Two is Rock Steady by The Whispers. And three is Wichita Alignment by Glen Campbell. Those are my three favorite all-time songs. Nice. That song's amazing.
I like Homer Simpson's version of it. I haven't heard it. Oh, it's great. He does it like he resents having Muzak while he's on hold, so he sings it into the phone. I'll get pipe and music to you.
How about that? That's it. I enjoyed it from the Oprah and Gail road trip episode. Wichita, Lima? Yes.
Oh, God. This is why you don't watch Oprah. This is exactly why you watch Oprah. Yeah. And Gail loves that song almost as much.
As you do. The fact that I know who Gail is makes me sad. But Oprah hates it when Gail sings along to it. Those two. You know that makes me sad as well.
Those two. My good Lord. Oprah and Gail. Will it never stop? It is not nominated for documentary feature.
So, what were they thinking? What is the story behind this movie? Did they film him in his last days of life or something? That's kind of what the video looked like? Essentially...
I mean, he's because... He has Alzheimer's, does he not? Yeah, he does. And apparently it's very final stages right now. And that's, I mean, to me, the fact that the song is I'm not going to miss you is already kind of heartbreaking considering the subject matter.
And I don't know if they started filming the documentary and then he was diagnosed. I feel like that's the only way that this documentary could be acceptable. I have not seen it, but. Just watching the video, it seemed wildly exploitative. I did not like the scenes of him standing in the studio while they're holding the paper for him to read the lyrics.
It just felt wrong. I mean, at the same time, that is the point it's trying to make, right? I mean, I guess it depends. If you want to do a retrospective on his great career or you want to capture the fact that this is going on and maybe... make people more aware of it or make people understand what it is and how it attacks people and ruins their lives. Like, I guess it depends which movie you're trying to make.
Yeah, and I haven't seen it, so it's really conjectured just based on me having seen that, you know, 90 seconds. But, you know, in a way, almost all Oscar movies seem to me like they're exploiting something serious just to, like, further people's careers. They kind of are. A lot of the movies on this list are doing that. Yeah.
I always feel like Well, yeah, I care about that, but I'm not sure about squeezing it for showbiz juice. It's always kind of something that makes me uncomfortable. Tell that to The Theory of Everything or The Imitation Game or all of these movies. I'm okay with creativity contests as long as you just kind of have a sense of humor about it. But I don't like you know, when you.
Take it that seriously, it just seems so stupid. You know, as long as. It's fun and everybody, you know, it is nice to recognize people, but, I mean, there's no real best picture or any best, you know. Which was my point last time. It was like, the fact that you can pick a best, I think it's so cliche that, oh, it's an honor to be nominated, but, like, I do like the actual, like, okay, we're going to at least give people something to strive for.
Again, it's become more of a financial... thing along the way that's the only reason producers want to do it is because they know they can re-release it and get a huge boost after that or they'll drive up the DVD sales or whatever and even like the actors themselves like get a huge pay boost when they you know but now I'm an Oscar winner I'm gonna get twice as much so it becomes very financial but again I hope there's a level of artistic integrity there that like we're striving to make this good because it needs to be made as an interesting movie and not just, you know, squeezing movie juice. Out of it. Well, so, like, yeah, I like Glen Campbell. I remember liking Glen Campbell, but I didn't like this song.
It sounds like Lake John Lennon, like, just so blatantly. It's a lemon of a Lennon. It sounded like it had the Beatles anthology treatment done to it. Like, you know, they took the tape of his voice and they just... free as a bird yeah that's exactly how it sounded to me yeah. With a little bit of like an imagine opening yeah just.
Yeah like they spliced it together using pre-existing things with what they had because they didn't have much. Yeah I was sad it was a song but I was even sadder that it was a bad song. Yeah yeah I mean again it's just the way that it comes together is so sad that like it's hard to judge it any other way it's just like oh god like it's The idea of what's going on is so overwhelming that it's hard to look at it as a song on its own. So, let's move on. Something uplifting like being stranded in space for decades as we move into Interstellar.
I think this one is probably the of the scores I think maybe outside of Grand Budapest Hotel, the most functional of the bunch. I think They made a lot of really clever choices in doing this that like there are times when they're in space and they pull out the score and there will not be anything for some of the time. And I think that's kind of a gutsy move at this point because now everything has to have a blurring score, especially for big action, you know, sci-fi kind of movies. And there are times when I feel like they dial it back and there are moments when it's a really toned down score and But then there's times when it kicks in and it is, like, you see, oh, yeah, Hans Zimmer is pretty talented.
Like, the one I picked, I think, is the best example of when it works at its best is the Mountains. If you've seen it, it's very obvious, I guess, when it comes into play. But, yeah, this is Hans Zimmer Mountains, and I think it's arguably the most interesting and effective songs on the whole soundtrack. So so Thank you. Thank you.
I listened to this track, and what I thought was it took way too long. This is just me basing. I haven't seen the movie. I don't know anything about the movie. I was just listening to it as a song, and I thought this is taking way too long to get to becoming a song.
But I feel that way with most score numbers. I feel that way with most music, period. Yeah. Because my attention span in the age of the internet has shot down dramatically. That's true.
The reason I don't watch movies is because I have to commit a certain amount of time. That's why I can watch 12 hours of a TV show because... It's like, you've only got 20 minutes, just watch one episode. Before I know it, I've seen five seasons in a sitting. I don't fall for that.
I do. I'm incredibly weak. Series work. I can't watch. If you say, okay, this movie's 85 minutes, I'm like, fuck, I have to spend 85 minutes sitting here looking at the television?
But if you say this episode of this TV show is 19 minutes long, I'm like, fine, let's watch the whole season. Because I can get up and walk away and we'll have seen it in small manageable chunks without missing it. There is a pause button, you know. Since we've established you don't leave the house to see movies. Like, if you told me, like, one of these Oscar movies I haven't seen, like, sit down and watch that, I'd kind of be like, oh, God.
But if you were like, I'm going to watch, like, all of The Sopranos again. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in. Yeah.
I'll do that. I don't know. I just think that when, again, the whole rest of it is so understated. that I feel like it only works in the context of the movie. I think if you were sitting around listening to a lot of those other tracks in your car, which I guess Lucy was, I don't know, Like, to me, it would just be like, oh, my God, can I just turn on the radio? Like, I feel like you would get tired of those really, those, I mean, it is that, again, that dividing line of, like, does it work on its own as a song or does it need to be in the context of the movie?
And I feel like almost all of those, like, just work as sort of background music. I think, again, that one was. Which is its job. It ends like being the most entertaining, you know, way more interesting and exciting type of music on that track. But that's why I picked that track because almost every other one is really slow and very sedate.
Not in a bad way in context of the movie, but on its own, they're kind of hard to take. I actually canceled my plans to listen to all of the soundtracks. I'll have you know. Wow. That was not my fault.
Yeah. No, not. You signed on for this, Tina. You could have whistled out like the rest of the crew. I thought we were just talking, like had to listen to the songs and not the soundtracks.
But then we didn't have to listen to the songs. I just failed. That's why I picked one. But I did start it from the beginning. And I seriously thought there was something wrong with my computer.
Because for three full minutes, there's almost nothing. There's almost no sound. So it does not stand alone. I mean, I saw the movie. And it took me to places.
I had emotional reactions in an appropriate way. Does any of that surprise you about Hans Zimmer? Like, that's kind of how he operates. But almost nothing is still, by definition, still something, and therefore part of everything. And everything is awesome.
And that's on my hard drive. They sent it to me. But I want to see if I got this straight. Okay, so you canceled plans to listen to these songs. Yeah.
You live in Lexington. Yeah. You drove here after canceling plans to listen to these songs. MVP or what? To talk about these songs.
And to have almost no opinion on any of the scores. That is amazing. She's very dedicated. I question her sanity sometimes, but she's very dedicated. If there's a victor in this circle, it has to be you, because that's more effort than I put into it.
Lucy, thank you very much. Oh, guys. Good job. Good job. Very impressive.
All right, carry on. People will cancel and stuff, but it's like Lucy says I'm in. It's like, oh, there's an episode then. Now it's payback. Let's talk about Wild.
Or the sequel, Beasts of the Southern Wild. I thought you were rooting for Reese to get the Oscar. I will actually say I loved Laura Dern in that movie, and so I'm not rooting against Wild. And I did not hate Wild. And I didn't hate Reese Witherspoon in Wild.
Because you and Reese, like, We have some issues. We have some issues. I think she called like she was behind her in the car at one point and went, this car in front of me is weaving around, officer. You might want to check into this. And like later we all kind of heard how it turned out.
But that was Lucy. An anonymous tip is an anonymous tip, Brian. Thank you very much. Not now. It's your civic duty.
You have been outed. Actually, I thought Reese Witherspoon was great. I don't know why I did not think I would like this movie. Not that we're talking about this movie. It's an Oscar-nominated movie.
We can reference it. I thought she was great, and this is even weirder for me to say, I thought she was really sexy in this movie. I did not know she was capable of being sexy. Which movie? Wild.
Okay. Now, Reese Witherspoon, do you remember the Anne Hathaway, Keira Knightley conversation we had? I do, from way back last week. From last week. Well, I don't know if we decided to victor, but Reese Witherspoon, I have the same sort of combat going on in my head with Julia Stiles.
Oh, interesting. I can see that. I'd give that to Julia Stiles. See, I can't do it. I don't know why.
When she first came onto the scene, I was like, all right. There's something here with this girl. And then I saw her in Dexter and I was like, I hate this woman. Make her go away. She's a terrible actress.
I don't believe her. I don't like her. I don't hate that season. Most people do, though. It was a terrible season of Dexter.
You watched it. Welcome to Michael Hates Dexter. No. I could do a Dexter podcast. I have a lot to say.
But yeah, it's a similar battle in my head for those two. Just before Julia Stiles showed up, I guess. Well, I don't know. I think that would be more of like this is your personal pick. Because I think if we're taking professional into it, Reese kind of like blows her out of the water.
Yeah. So I think Reese has certainly made more of a career for herself. Julia's trying, I suppose. Every once in a while I see her turn up. I'm like, she is still acting.
Look at her. But to be honest, even. I liked Reese so much in Elections. But then beyond that. She's so good in that because she's playing a terrible pain in the ass.
Again, my intro was Freeway. I love Freeway more than most people need to. It's a disturbing movie for me to be as connected as I am. How much do people need to? A lot because it's pretty awesome.
But I love it a little more than even is healthy. But yeah, she is so good at playing this trashy character. that I'm like, where was she drawing from? And then later you see, oh, that's kind of it. Is that the movie based on the fairy tale? Yes.
Little Red Riding Hood. Yeah, it's very Little Red Riding Hood-ish. Yeah, the two movies I've seen that I thought she was okay in, I haven't seen anything that I really enjoyed particularly with her in it, but I liked the movie with. Ryan Gosling, The Thomas Crown Affair, whatever that movie was. Oh, wait.
You know what I'm talking about, right? Or Ryan... Sarah Michelle Gellar was in it, maybe? Oh, Ryan Phillippe. Yeah, that's the one I was like, okay.
Then to be husband, then to be ex-husband. Yes, that movie. That movie was all right. Dangerous Liaisons. Cruel Intentions.
And it's really entertaining. I won't say it's a masterpiece, but it's ridiculously entertaining. I thought it was all right, and there was a movie I saw because it was on TV once, and I had nothing better to do, and she got kidnapped by one of the Wilson brothers or something, and they fell in love, and they were like, being chased by monster trucks, and she was also kind of trashy in that, and it took place in the desert, and it was a very late 90s kind of. I feel like you're describing Excess Baggage, but with a different cast. It was a romantic.
He's currently making this movie. Reese, if you'd like to get a hold of him. No, it was some romantic, like, either they were kidnappers or they were bank robbers or something, but it was very, like, romantic, fighting against the law, racing against time, but it was a comedy. Yeah. I don't know what the name of that was.
It was like kind of an ordinary life or something. A lifeless ordinary. No. But a lifeless ordinary has the best cardigan song on it. On the soundtrack.
That soundtrack is a soundtrack that should be nominated for an Oscar. I'm mixing it. Up with a comeback. I just kind of like it. I saw the first movie she was ever in.
I saw Under Strange Circumstances because I wanted to see the movie about Andy Kaufman. I'm not a big fan of, what's his name? Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey. I couldn't stand him early on, but I kind of thought I'd rather see him play Andy Kaufman than even see Andy Kaufman.
And so this was back in the days of VHS tapes, and I went to like a place, and it was called like Man on the Moon, right? And so I pick out the movie, I rent it, I'm driving home, and I think of the REM song, If You Believe, and I see the spine of it in the seat of the car, and it says, Man in the Moon. And I'm like, nobody believes they put a fucking man in the moon. Except Reese Witherspoon. What the fuck is this?
What did I rent, and why? And it was a Reese Witherspoon movie? It's like that classic 28 Days Later mix-up. Oh, and both are weirdly obsessed with Elvis. There's like this whole weird connection between the movies.
Like she's this kid who's. Obsessed with Elvis. And then for some reason, like the bass player from REM is in the background. No, probably not. I might be making that up.
But yeah, it's a weird little movie. Sam Waterson, is that it? From Law and Order fame? From Law and Order fame? Wasn't he on Law and Order?
From Rancho Deluxe fame. Rancho Deluxe, all right. What's that other thing, like the Aaron Sorkin, the newsroom? I think he just died in that this last season. That's a spoiler.
Yeah. Oh, sorry. Whoops. Wah, wah. I'm not sure.
He might be hanging on. Mild newsroom spoilers. That needs to be a tag. He might be hanging in there. I have no idea.
He just was looking a little pale and not, you know, I don't know. I took a picture of him eating soup once. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You were eating.
Soup and took a picture of him or he was eating soup? We might have both been eating soup. I can't remember if I was or wasn't, but yeah. I like your old celebrity stalker stories. Every once in a while, they just sort of pop up all on their own, and I'm like, another creepy move from Lucy.
Well, it's really great, actually, because obviously I pretended to be taking a picture of my friend Vic, but... of whom I did not need another picture. The fact that you came up with a side story to cover the fact that it makes it a really stalker. But you can see him in the background in focus really earnestly eating the soup. Like I feel like it's a really good celebrity. He was very sincere about that soup.
Man, this is good soup. And did you have to tell your friend Vic, I'm sorry, I know it looked like I was taking a picture of you. But actually, I have enough pictures of you. I was looking past you. He knew what I was doing.
I'm going to Photoshop you out later. Are you okay with that? So the Life Less Ordinary podcast, right? Yeah. Let's talk about Velvet Divorce, the best sneaker pimp song, which is also on that soundtrack.
We're just going to bring you back for that one. You're going to have to come back and do your own, much like Fred, so you can pick your favorites. We could co-do. I don't think we could. I think that's like six episodes between the two of you.
Speaking of which, that Reese tangent brought to you by Lucy. All right, moving on. So, Grateful from Beyond the Lights. Music and lyric by Diane Warren. There were a lot of tears I had to cry through A lot of battles left me battered and bruised And I was shattered, had my heart ripped in two I was broken, I was broken There were a lot of times I stumbled and crashed When I was on the edge, down to my last chance So many times when I was so convinced that I was over, I was over But.
I had to fall. To rise above it all I'm grateful. For the sun Made me appreciate the sun I'm grateful for the. Rose Made me appreciate the rose. For everything that made.
Me pray I'm thankful for all my scars Cause they only make. My heart Grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful. Grateful I was thinking I was drowning in All the pain was weighing me down Pulled it together and I pulled myself out Learned a lesson, learned a lesson That there's a lot you. Gotta go through, hell yes But that's what got me strong, I got no regrets And I got only love, got no bitterness Count my blessings, count my blessings. Yeah I'm proud of everything, yeah.
Cause they got me here. I'm grateful for the sun. Make me appreciate the sun. I'm grateful for the road. Make me appreciate the road.
I'm grateful for the pain. For everything that made me pray. I'm thankful for all my scars. Cause they only make my heart. I'm grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful.
Grateful. There is nothing I would change. Not even one mistake I made. I got lost. Found myself, found my way.
I'm grateful for the sun. Made me appreciate the sun. I'm grateful for the wrong ones. Made me appreciate the right ones. I'm grateful for the fame.
For everything that made me all. I'm thankful for all my scars. Cause they only make. I'm grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful. I'm grateful.
You know that I'm grateful. You know that I care. No time for the wrong ones. I'll always be there. Grateful.
I'm afraid I may have actually mixed up a couple of those soundtracks and my comments make no sense whatsoever they were not that memorable for me but I do remember that this is the song that I'm aware of this from recording songs myself at home sounds like it has a dog barking This. Is the one that sounds super, super shiny, like scientists made the music, right? Yes. There's the dog. Yeah.
I get that in a lot of my tunes. Not every child has to be without health care. Only yours. See, I feel like this one, it's not horrible. It's just run of the mill.
I feel like I've heard so many songs kind of like this in the last couple of years that I couldn't have told you who this one was. I would have mistaken it for about five other women. There's a mode in songwriting in the last 10 years or so that stuff will fall into about one of four or five categories. And there will be 12 songs that sound just like each of those categories. It's the Alicia Keys syndrome.
Which one? The Alicia Keys syndrome. She does have. A very distinctive sound that not everybody wants to do. One Alicia Keys song gets really big, and suddenly there are a million songs that are trying to be that next Alicia Keys song.
And this sounds like one of those homogenized songs. I agree. It's a song. It has that lovely phrasing where it goes, I'm. Grateful for this.
Yeah. Here's my feeling about this. I feel like Diane Warren is like the Meryl Streep of the best song category. I feel like when you have to round out a category and you don't have enough songs, you're like, well, shit, Diane Warren had to have done something. All right, Diane Warren as the fifth nominee.
And so you just bring her in. Because when you look at the songs that she has gotten Academy Awards for, like Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, clearly this is subpar Diane Warren. We needed a fifth song that year. And I feel like maybe she's trying to cash in on the hashtag grateful thing. And that's all.
She should be hashtag fuck those guys. That's what the hashtag should be. I mean, that's the hashtag that's sweeping the nation. I think really she should get behind that. To me, it's just like the song is about me being grateful.
And isn't that great? It's not about the stuff that's great that I'm grateful for. It's like, Isn't it cool that I'm this grateful person? Yeah. I'm so grateful.
Isn't that awesome? It's like that Facebook post. It's like a song about... So basically what you're saying is it's hashtag blessed. Yes.
I am so blessed and I'm grateful. Hashtag fuck those guys. Hashtag fuck all of those guys. I remember the point I was going to make, and now it's dumb, and I can't believe I'm going to say it out loud. But this song sounds like something that should be performed on that show for Adam Levine in front of him.
Okay, show us what you got. Play that Oscar song in front of this other dude that did an Oscar song. It probably will be now. Yeah. Boy, that was a dumb point.
Why did I even waste my breath with that? Because you love Adam Levine. Because we have to mention him at least three times per episode now. It did teach me who Rita Ora is, though, because I'd seen pictures of her in fashion magazines and Us Weekly and had no idea who she was, and now I do. Didn't take with me.
I still don't know. You still have no clue. I don't know who she is. I still have no idea. It's like when I watched Frozen and I still haven't heard the song.
I remember when you did that. Yeah. It's weird how that happens. You could be in bed and hear that song. Yeah.
Yeah. The Imitation Game? Yeah. The Return of Alexander Desla. Mm-hmm.
I guess this will be the intro track, self-titled The Imitation Game. The Imitation Game Thank you. Thank you. It is the most important thing in life. It is the most important thing in life.
It is the most important thing in life. It is the most important thing in life. Again, this is another very polished, very well put together soundtrack entries that, do you really leave the theater humming it? It's just sort of there, and it sounds very Oscar worthy, but is it? The clip I heard, I immediately thought, oh, it's like European melancholy with sort of a music box sound.
And I told Lynn, it sounds like something You might be hearing when you were looking at a quaint shop in Hogwarts. And then it turned out I think he did like Deathly Hallows 1 and 2. It has that. Not really melancholy. It's not really sad, but it's just a kind of wistful something.
But yeah, it's definitely a sound we've heard. Now let me float this by you. Tell me how this grabs you. Make a game... You get a bunch of musical artists together and you make them fight to the death.
They all have to record a version of the imitation game. And whoever does it best, that's the band that gets to survive and the rest gets thrown into a pit full of fire and wolves and gorillas with robot heads. The imitation game about the imitation game. Documentary style. This is like band battle royale.
Yes. Because I'm on board for that. Mix with that scene from whatever the movie is where they're tossing the kids into the pit and they have to... What movie was that? Kroll?
I don't know. Let's call it Maze Runner. All right. All right. Imitation game.
Meta. The imitation game. Game. And then you play the home game? The home game.
Based on the movie? Uh-huh. Based on the song? Oh, and here I've got snacks to go with it. I think there should be a snack called Oscar nominees.
Uh-huh. Like nom, nom, nom nominees? Yes. Okay. A nominee, it sounds to me like it should be some sort of hors d'oeuvre that you could.
Soon to be featured at Oscar Melding. I like this. We have so many good ideas. I know. Why are we not rich?
That's what I don't understand. I don't understand why I haven't got a MacArthur grant. I don't understand that either. Have you filed for one? Because it's usually a lot of paperwork involved.
I think that's with all these grants. There's like four or five years worth of paperwork and lawyers. So, yeah. Get involved. Somebody start doing their paperwork for us.
But I was looking at Alexander's lineup here because it's like I know he's like super well established. I know he's done a lot of things with Wes Anderson. He's done a ton of stuff. But that's what I think is funny because like that's the one we were so impressed with last time around. was the Grand Budapest Hotel soundtrack, which is so varied and so different. And you've got a good memory.
Yeah, those last whole weeks. But this, to me, seems so cookie-cutter. It feels so Oscar-ish that I was just like, how is this the same guy? Allow me to present this. That's kind of the difference in those two movies.
I mean, this movie is one of those movies. But they both ended up getting nominated for Best Picture. Yeah, but Grand Budapest is interesting and quirky and the things that you want a movie to be, and this is very cookie-cutter Oscar movies, so he kind of made a soundtrack that fits the film. I believe this is the one he did in three weeks and not just wrote, but also wrote and got it performed. And it kind of sounds like it.
It's like, what were we saying? It's his on-the-road novel. He did it on a single. Sheet of paper fed through a musical typewriter. Looking back, I even played him last year because he also did the soundtrack for Godzilla, which, again, was kind of fun and realized how ridiculous what it was it was doing and just went with it and was very loud and overplayed on all the instruments.
That's kind of what you're looking for when Godzilla's trashing things. He's in the triangle. The guy on the triangle. He bent the hell out of me. So yeah, I mean, he does like these super Oscar-y kind of movies, and then he'll show up on, you know, that kind of stuff.
So he's a very strange composer. I haven't really referenced my notes much, but for this song I wrote, this sounds like Philip Glass except for normal people. Philip Glass for normal people. And yes, did in fact do Deathly Hallows Part 1 and 2. Yeah.
As well as the Twilight Saga colon New Moon. Oh, yeah. Colon new moon. Don't you hate when you get a new moon crammed in your colon? Lodged in there.
It's not good. You've got to see a doctor. If it weren't for my colon, I would never experience a new moon. Neither would the proctologist. I just remember having it explained to me that in the books, the wolves wore little fanny packs to keep their human clothes in.
So when they transformed back into humans, they could get dressed. It's so practical of them. Yeah, that's my favorite thing. That may be the only thing I remember about those movies is just having that explained to me. It's like, well, yeah, it's in the book.
They wear these little packs. I might get one for my dog. Both of your dogs? Both of my dogs. Puppy and Angel have both been guests on the show.
Actually, I was thinking of getting Angel a caravan ride. thing to put on her back so that the puppy can ride. I like that a lot. Wouldn't that be a cool thing? Yeah, I like it. Yeah, because I had already thought, because I repair rugs, of doing like a little rug sign that would drape over Angel's back.
Because Angel does not have enough reasons to resent that puppy. I know. Just one more. She really does not. We have to work with her on that.
What if you made a rickshaw for the big one to pull the small one around her? You would break the internet if you shot video. If you did that, that's the thing. Grant achieved. Grant status achieved.
See, that's what I'm thinking. You fill out the paperwork. I'm trying to make some videos, but I'm haunted by the idea they're not good enough. I need something like, I need to put the puppies in it. Either cute animals or people falling and hurting themselves.
Yeah. These are the essential elements for a viral video. You've got to have something like that. And I keep thinking it's almost there. It's almost what it needs to be.
But it's not there yet. Puppy Rickshaw might just push it over the edge. Yeah. There you go. And if nothing else, Puppy Rickshaw is an excellent band name.
It really is. We need to start that. In addition to these six other podcasts we've come up with, we need to start band practice for Puppy Rickshaw. Yep. All right, are we ready to round it out?
We only have one more song. Well, depending. What about the also-rans? People always talk about, why isn't this an Oscar song? I literally feel like there's not a sixth song.
I feel like those were the only five songs this year. I think. Well, we already mentioned some disqualified ones. I think in 2014 there were only two songs. No, seriously, I think that's true.
I think there were only two. in 2014 well. That that's what i think is weird is when they have some categories that are like okay we're dead set this is five every time and then there's other years they're like well there weren't that many good animated movies so there's three you know i'm like there's only two good costume designers in all of hollywood sorry. That's actually true i know well i'm. Like why why do all these other people keep getting work then if there aren't two or three other ones you could throw in as a nomination but i think it's. Even more amazing that they now do that with best picture like nope there were eight there were eight good movies that.
One no that one doesn't surprise me because that's all about ratings yeah so i mean the other ones don't even make sense like that one makes sense we want to include a superhero movie so we'll get way more people to watch but we know it's not gonna win we're not even gonna nominate the director but we'll throw the name in there and then people will be like then they should fill out i wonder if thor will come present which he probably will so yeah i'm just like i yeah i don't know why like They don't go along with that with some of these other ones and just round it out with, like, and five more costume designers. But no. But I'm saying they don't round out the ten. Like, they were like, you know what?
From now on, we're going to have ten. Well, they did. And then every year since then, it's been eight. It was set. It was ten every year for, like, two whole years.
And then they changed their mind again. They were like, damn, we can't even come up with ten. That's a lot of movies. How about we just make it between five and ten? I'm like, you guys are just making shit up now. you don't even know what the hell you're doing dear academy.
Do we don't blame al pacino for that though do we. I blame him for most things you guys are on board i. Well you know the other one like the song from boyhood um is not it's not nominated because the song existed all I mean. He was pulling nothing but old songs. I mean, I guess that doesn't surprise me.
But I think, like, wasn't that the same thing with. The Lord song? No, that should have been, though. I really liked that one at the end of Hunger Games. That was awesome.
I haven't seen it, but I've heard the song. It's a good song. Again, she's just really talented for somebody that's weird. She looks kind of. Like Anne Hathaway at the beginning of The Princess Diaries.
Go on. When she's like, You know, when she's like awkward and ridiculous. All right. Yeah. I just like that she's massively unconventional and does not give a rat's ass who has problems with it.
She's just kind of like, eh, this is what I'm doing. Screw you guys. I thought it was a really intelligent song. It's like it goes along and it's kind of okay, but something about in how many repetitions and how it builds. It's like, wow.
She's really creative with the beats of all of her songs. And I'm like, she's freaking 15. It's kind of amazing. When she started. Now, I guess, not so much.
And I liked the Boyhood song, too, but I don't remember noticing it in the movie at all. I did see the movie, and I had no memory of it. But then there are a couple of kids singing it in their living room. It's an Internet thing. And I heard it then, and it's like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
It's like how I watched Frozen and never heard the Frozen song, never heard the Boyhood song when I watched Boyhood. But there's this kid, Nathan Leach, and his sister, Eva, and they do that song in their kitchen. And it's just a super cute video. I love the version of it. Well, I was trying to think of that other one.
It's Whiplash. It's the one that's all about music, but because I think it's all pre-existing stuff, it's like, well, can't do anything with that. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that was a great score. That movie actually made me feel like maybe I'm old enough to appreciate jazz now.
Oh, really? You're finally edging your way up there, Grandma? I was finally there. I was like, wait a minute. I'm kind of liking this.
So you've passed me. I'm now older than Fred. Like those characters in War and Peace that age at different rates. You pulled ahead. I caught jazz when I was young, so I don't know how I did that.
It's like a disease. It was probably acid, actually. I divide jazz into two categories. There's cat jazz and dog jazz. Cat jazz is... is smarter and more restrained and sort of like more like song jazz and then dog jazz is where everybody takes a long solo and pants like a dog with its tongue hanging out and it just goes on endlessly and i don't care.
See i reverse that whole theory oh yeah because to me dogs have a very set way of thinking everything that comes out of a dog is kind of logical in dog logic and makes sense Cats could give a rat's ass about anything else going on in the world and go on and do their own thing. To me, that's way more like the. Jazz that I don't like is cat jazz. But what about the Aristocats? They were way more traditional, but didn't they have dogs in the band?
Oh, did they? I believe they did. I think they did. I thought they were like the rhythm section was a bunch of crazy beagles and whatnot. We're kind of making stuff up.
Is that a commentary on racism or something? Was that what they were trying to do about that? Witch Aristocats? Yeah. There were parts.
I'm always looking for the palace shaped like a penis in movies about. Cats and dogs. There was a lot of weird underlying stuff in the old Disney movies, so we probably best not to dig into that, especially as we move forward into this next song. All right. This would be Glory from Selma, music and lyric by John Stevens and Lonnie Lynn.
We're going to round it out with that because that's the big win. Because it's going to win. I have very specific thoughts on the song itself. How deep do we want to go into this discussion? I think we want to go pretty deep.
That's what we do. Go for it. Because mine's mostly song-based, not so much... The controversy around it. Oh, I didn't know there was controversy.
Well, the fact that they snubbed most of the people involved in that film. The actor playing Martin Luther King did not get a nomination. In fact, if you look at all the nominations, there's nothing but a bunch of white people. In a year where we're going through the things that we've been going through... hey let's do nothing but nominate a bunch of white people and ignore this movie about overcoming racism like it really is a weird year to throw this in there and I don't know. That, to me, was a much bigger real-world issue.
Yeah, we'll throw in your hip-hop concession. Yeah, that's mine. I'm like, I could care less about the dumb hip-hop things I think about it, which is the only thing I really came up with. To me, the much bigger issues there are the world issues going on. I will say that I thought that category, Best Actor, was really full this year.
It is. Best Actress, not at all. Really super weak. But Best Actor, really full. So I didn't feel like he got snubbed.
I did feel like the director got snubbed. Clearly snubbed. That was my two cents about that. For me, the film, the song did the thing that I hate that they do now, which is why do you take a period film and then throw in like a new song at the end? What should have been the most like emotionally charged sort of final montage?
That immediately takes you out of it. And I don't know if it was trying to create a bridge between past and present. Like, maybe, maybe. But for me, it was just like, wait, why is this happening right now? And I couldn't concentrate on the film anymore.
There is a way to do that. Occasionally I see it and it doesn't bother me. Well, I feel like. First Night, was that like the first time it really happened that people talked about it? First Night was pretty noticeable.
Again, that one really didn't. But it was consistent throughout. Like, I feel like with this movie, it was just like all of a sudden at the end, like throughout the movie, there's period music. And then at the end. Well, I mean, then you get like Inglourious Bastards.
It's like period, period, like very score oriented. Yeah. And then in the middle of it, David Bowie, which is an amazing song. Oh, man. I feel like tonally that makes sense for.
A Tarantino film. That rubbed a lot of people the wrong way at the time. You're talking about like the raindrops keep falling on my head phenomenon. Yeah. Where you're in a period of time and all of a sudden...
What the fuck is Burt Bacharach doing here? Where did he come from? You said David Bowie, though, in that... God. Does anybody watch American Horror Story?
No. No? Okay. Well, it takes place in the 50s, and they keep performing David Bowie songs on the show that takes place in the 50s, and it drives me crazy. See, that's the thing.
It drives a lot of people crazy who get very caught up. To me, I've gotten to the point where I just sort of let all that stuff go because the whole thing is... made up and it's it almost depends on how like artistic you're taking everything if everything is just this big fantasy piece that i'm slapping together and like i'm creating my own world It really doesn't bother me. If everything else is by the numbers and then somehow it's worked in as though it were really there in that time period, it makes no sense. Yeah, it doesn't bother me with Tarantino. He can do whatever the fuck.
To me, that was the dividing line with the first night thing. It's not first night, right? I don't know. That's what I called it. I'm just making shit up.
A Knight's Tale. A Knight's Tale is the one. And I actually like the David Bowie song that they work in. I think that scene works really well with that song. where I call bullshit, is in the opening where they're playing Queen, aren't they? I've never seen the movie.
And the people in the crowd scene are singing the lyrics to it. See, I like that. They're like chanting. Because it sets you up. It starts you out.
You're like, you know what? This is what this movie's going to be. But if they followed through with that, because I feel like they never reference it that deeply again. It's always just background music after that. So I'm like, pick one.
You can't kind of have both in the same movie. It's either got to be that level of ridiculous or... or kind of subtle and clever worked in, like the Moulin Rouge stuff. I think all of that worked really well because he wove it throughout and he added it to his own music and he added all these period piece things from that time period and then from our time and it becomes its own weird art thing. I disagree. I thought that was terrible in Moulin Rouge.
Absolutely dreadful. The way that the soundtrack goes. I like the way it mixed everything. The way that all those people started suddenly doing Smells Like Teen Spirit made me want to throw up on my own face. But again, within the context of that movie, I think it works.
Because the whole thing is ridiculous. I remember having a conversation about that. And it was like, I watched it and I was like, I'm pretty sure they didn't have like 1950s Smith Corona typewriters at that time. And I don't think they had those Saturday night special revolvers. And my friend said, yeah, but they didn't have Elton John either.
And I said, no, I'm pretty sure they did. I looked that one up. He was there. It turns out. In those kind of circumstances, I'm okay with it because doesn't the entire thing, like, it opens almost like it's a play?
Like, the whole thing is a made-up fictional thing that you're just here. We put this together and you can watch it. That wasn't what bothered me about that movie. There's other issues. I'm not saying it's perfect.
It was a terrible movie. It made me motion sick, and I don't get motion sick watching movies. I feel like I give it a pass for that movie. Because it makes it work on the whole, where other stuff just will randomly do one thing, and that's where you have to have an issue with. Yeah, my issue was there were just no people in that movie.
There were no, like, people. I didn't care about anything. Yeah. Shot in the face, I didn't give a fuck. That are so emotionally compelling, there is no possible way that you could, like, wring the emotional resonance out of this story.
Like, Romeo and Juliet? How do you fuck up Romeo and Juliet? And somehow, like, there may be an earlier source material than Camille, but for me, the movie is the story of Camille, the Greta Garbo film. And for me, that's a movie that I cannot watch without crying because it is so incredibly beautiful. And to take that narrative...
And to make it so hollow that you do not give a shit whether she lives or dies. Yeah. It's amazing that he can do that. If only we could harness that power. And use it for good.
Yeah. There's got to be a way. You know what I like? I like Jesus Christ Superstar. The movie, not the play.
That's awesome. Jesus Christ Superstar is fucking amazeballs. I'm not going to argue. I don't know that I used that term exactly. I remember loving it, but I haven't seen it in forever.
Watch it again. It holds up. It's amazing. But again, that's one of those, it really is a play that you're watching take place in the desert. The cast shows up at the beginning.
So I'm like, you can kind of do whatever you want at that point. That's why there's guys in purple tank tops driving around with a tank. In ancient Jesus times. And you don't call it bullshit because you're like, we saw them show up on a bus at the beginning. Somebody I know was showing that movie to their kids and their kids asked them, how come like all the disciples are not wearing shirts?
And if they are wearing shirts, they're unbuttoned. And she said, and we had to try to explain the 70s too. And one of them's a porn actor. I remember loving that when it came out. I thought the music was fantastic.
It's amazing. It was just a blast. Every detail of Jesus Christ Superstar is awesome. From cinematography, the clothing, the song, everything is good. I agree with all of those.
I really loved Hair when I was a kid, but not the movie so much. I just thought the Broadway soundtrack was just incredible. I still think it's so far-sighted in terms of its musical style, but... You know, they didn't use a lot of the best pieces in the movie. They used, like, some of the major set pieces.
Which is another move they do when they turn it into a movie. A lot of times, especially in the last 15, 20 years... They will add a song in to a pre-existing Broadway play when they make it a movie specifically so they can get nominated for another. I've seen that happen at least twice. Well, they did that with Les Mis.
They did that, I think, with Les Mis. They did that with Evita. Every time they took, they would make a new song specifically because they're like, this is a huge musical. They're going to want to nominate one of our songs. We better make one so that we technically can be thrown in there.
I don't think they did that with Hair. I think they got rid of some of the best songs in Hair. But it was just really charming because it had that feeling like they had found pre-existing music, like a backing track, and then just quickly made up shit to go with. And it's fun. It's the 60s.
They're just making shit up. So all that It came from Selma? Yeah, I really didn't like that song, and I thought the rap part was very, very stale. It sounds like almost every... It sounds like the...
It sounds like the black eyed peas, where is the love? Like you can rap that over it. I know, I did it. I thought it sounded like NPR saying, and now we're going to teach your children what rap is. Because it's not rap, it's hip hop.
But it's like intellectual hip hop that white people like. I'm going to amplify that and say it sounds like the music and literary critics on fresh air. Yes. Yes. Telling people what rap is.
Explaining to you where the depth is because you might miss it unless they explain it. Right. So subtle. And in that voice that's not like a natural voice, it's like they're trying to parody themselves. If I was going to be an NPR critic on SNL, I would make my own voice sound like this.
Yeah. I don't know. I think that's where the problem is. Because to me, I think the John Legend part, he has a great voice. In that part, I feel like it's fitting of what they're trying to do.
I feel like that part is very... Again, it's probably a little more traditional than maybe it even needs to be on that end of it. But then they're trying to do that, as we said, maybe trying to bridge the generations here and then make it modern, if you will. I think that's the problem. I think that rap is so bad. badly done like not just badly written it's very hamily written but i think on top of that it's so non-committal like there's no again especially something like this like such a huge issue that like it feels like somebody needs to be kind of passionate about this right and he has nothing to do he just sort of lays the lines out there for you very ham fisted and i'm just like shouldn't you be kind of angry?
Like if we're going to balance this and have John Legend be the very like old school, like, you know, melodic version of it, then we need to balance it out with somebody to, in my mind, I'm like, that would have made this kind of work is if that was the angry half of it that was like, no, this is how we'd like to remember things. This is how things really are as we're living with this shit today. Just some sort of tone yeah whether it was angry or it's just toneless well. It was funny you know like that was my go-to is like oddly enough white it was like listening I was like if you put in something like what Eminem does and I know some people hate him I again regardless of whether you like what he does or not his style gets very angry and gets very like I don't know it has a specific delivery to it that I think is almost the kind of thing you need here where it's like this is mounting you know and it's like that's kind of the state of the world that's kind of the state of the situation we're dealing with like you need something else to counter the old school music and we need something that's way more passionate and probably angry to represent what this needs to.
Say again that's sort of where the difference between a song and a soundtrack song comes into play because at that point in the movie you know it's sort of the end montage of everything getting better so it wouldn't I mean, that's not the note they were trying to end the film on? Yeah, but that's not what he says. But, I mean, to me, that's not where we are. No, of course not. I guess if you're trying to tell the story of just that story, but if that's the case, maybe you don't need to bridge it.
Maybe you need to leave it. If you're doing nothing but a period piece, and you're not trying to be a reflection of what society was then, has become, is moving towards, it depends what you're trying to do, I guess. Because to me, if it's supposed to be nothing but a tale of Selma... then we probably just need to stick with that. If we're trying to make it about race relations in general or trying to fight against prejudice, I think that's the only way to do it is to then have somebody there who's sort of representing the way things really are. Like a lot of the other music, it was depressingly professional.
It didn't have that spark of life that just amateur enthusiasm about what you're doing. And I mean, I'm not, a lot of people professionally keep that, but I think when you're making it for a project, there's a kind of self-editing that you sort of like start trimming the life out of what you're doing and it becomes a little bit more of an exercise and you do what you know how to do. And maybe, I mean, that's something that Hollywood, in quotes there, does with everything. Like they will take, a great screenplay, and then they'll edit it and adjust it and make what they feel is supposed to be important but really is just going to make them money, and then by the end you're left with this homogenized crap.
So it may be part of that, how many producers came in and put their two cents on even just the song that changed what it might have originally been. I think it's pretty easy just to do that to yourself. I used to paint portraits, and after a while I just couldn't. It's like, I'm not even doing something I feel like doing anymore. And nobody's making me do that.
But you just internalize what you think people's expectations are. And then you wind up turning something that's interesting and fun into just the shittiest job you've ever had. And you just don't even want to do it anymore. You don't want to think about it. I don't know.
I think it must be a hard job to write songs. A lot of times, a lot of my favorite ones are just things people used. Yeah. And also just people making films. Like I can remember a number of times people just finding a piece of music, playing it with the film and going, Oh my God.
And it was like the biggest moment of discovery in the whole process of making the film. I think that's its own different art form. And maybe that's what they need to add to this is like, I think when you get with someone who's like, somebody like Tarantino or Wes Anderson that like is almost curating your music selections for this specific piece that they're putting together to me that's an art form too it's maybe not as original obviously but like I think there's an art to that that a lot of people don't have I've seen a lot of like look every bad indie movie that came out after pulp fiction was trying to do that exact same thing and did it badly so it's like there really is a skill to being able to take pre-existing stuff and sort of harness it and shove it into an amazing soundtrack.
Best mixtape producer. It is. I would like to nominate A Life Less Ordinary for that. See, A Life Less Ordinary. Guardians of the Galaxy did a great job this past year.
Yeah, also like... Reservoir Dogs, that's like that Steeler's Wheel song, was always like this bland song that was about nothing to me. And all of a sudden it's like, now I get it. It's about torturing a cop and. Cutting off his ear.
I felt exactly the same way. And now I feel like I get this song. Which Tarantino did not choose. He didn't? No.
I mean, I remember having the tape when I was in high school and it said on the interior of the tape, and thanks to so-and-so, If it hadn't been for you, we wouldn't be stuck in the middle. We'd just be stuck. Like, I guess some lady picked it out. I assumed it was just Michael Madsen started singing. He was like, damn it, now I've got to use that.
I hope we can get the licensing for this thing. Yeah. Well, and, you know, another one of my all-time favorites is Everybody's Talking. And what's his name actually wrote? Yeah, Harry Nilsson wrote a song for that movie.
And they already had that song, and they were using it as sort of a placeholder. And I think Dylan. Wait, what movie is that? Midnight Cowboy. Midnight Cowboy.
And Dylan wrote Lay Lady Lay for it, which is weird because I always wondered, why does he sing that song in a different voice than all his other songs? I always thought, why is he suddenly a crooner here with a different voice? And after I read about that song, it was like, oh, it's because he was trying to suit it to the character thing. I think we've stumbled on a whole other episode there of songs that were created for a movie and maybe didn't get used in that movie. Because I've heard a few stories like that over the years.
Well, Dylan had another one like Knocking on Heaven's Door. It was just not finished. And it was the best song for Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, I thought. But it's not in the movie. So I always just turn it on when the movie's on.
I just... Go ahead and crank it up. I'm not. I don't care if it wasn't finished. You know, it's like that thing where you play, like, Dark Side of the Moon with.
Wizard of Oz. Wizard of Oz. Blows your mind, man. Yeah. I just did a quick Google search for snubs of 2014.
There's a lot of them. What? Really? Are there? I mean, people are talking about it.
It's one of the most... Like, this year feels like the most I've heard that in a while. But, I mean, in song. Well, just in, no, not in song. I mean, in general.
Well, I was looking at it in song. There's a lot of actors that got totally overloaded. Well, I guess there's a Lana Del Rey song for Big Eyes that people had feelings about. But then I guess what you were just mentioning was taking classic musicals. I guess they did an original song for Annie.
Didn't work out for Annie, did it? Yeah, yeah. They couldn't do anything with that one. They just couldn't do anything, bless them. Wow the kid's an orphan but they won't even nominate her for an oscar anything else on this as we round it out here with everyone's song that they have problems with so i again this is just playing it so everyone else can hear them so you listen and make up your mind what you think of glory you can even email and write us let us know what you think.
Now that was a good movie glory that was an all right movie. If only it had had a hip-hop song at the end. If only there was a song about, you say, sit down, I'll stand up. You say, cut my hair, I'll grow my hair out. You say, shave off that beard, I'll trim my sideburns.
You say, walk, I'm going to run and jump parkour off this damn coffee shop. Because that was how that went, right? That was loosely the lyrics? Forgot the part where a cannon blows some dude's head off. That's also a key moment in glory.
Fucking Columbine happened and shit. Issues, man, deal with it. Words. Hashtag fuck those people. That's how my song goes.
I think you've just written a pretty impressive soundtrack right there. Thank you. Thank you. We need to record that. Oh wait, we just did.
It'll be on A Life Less Ordinary 2. You've seen the movie, right? Because the soundtrack is a different animal. The soundtrack is much better than the actual movie. Yeah, the movie has issues.
Holly Hunter is really sexy in that movie. She's always pretty sexy. She's understated. Gotta give her credit for the holly hunter special i remember like when people first started talking about the piano and they said the holly hunter is going to play like an australian woman i'm like oh fuck and they said well she doesn't speak i'm like oh okay all right all right got a movie then i i want to reinstate like my disclaimer because you know like i've had Music in movies, it's unpredictable. I haven't seen the movies.
I don't know what I'm talking about. But again, that's kind of the way a lot of this country and the world over approaches the Oscars. They will sit down and watch 14 hours of Oscar ceremony, and they'll be like, I haven't seen four of these movies. I haven't seen most of these performances by these actors. Like, It is how most people approach the Oscars.
Not hardcore movie geeks, but a lot of the population has no idea what any of the movies are. Don't know what the nominations are. That's why I wanted to throw those out there. I was like, at least in one category, two now, you're caught up. So it's like you've experienced all these songs.
You can argue well-educated. I guess I've reached the age where I still don't like jazz that much, but I don't really get angry about the Oscars like I used to. I used to watch the Oscars religiously because it's restored my lack of faith in humanity. I'd be going through the year. People would do a nice thing every now and then.
I'd get hopeful and expectant. Then I watched the Oscars and it's like, no, fuck that. everything sucks man this is what it's all about that's the truth. Money and glitz and paparazzi. But you know a lot of times like a piece of music you set it against a story and it just changes everything like like that uh opening music for hill street blues yes you know you hear that and you think This is going to be a show about a couple of dental hygienists who are best friends. Stuck in an elevator, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. It's the music video effect. I mean, if you think about how much videos really changed how we listen to music, like take Sleeping Bag by ZZ Top, for example. Do I have to take it?
That song is nothing much, but when you put it to the video where they're being chased by bad guys, a monster truck runs over the car, they bury it next to a pyramid, and it's reborn as a spaceship, that is fucking amazing and is not at all what the song's about. I'm sticking with TV Dinner because it has stop motion animation and a cool creature. Well, You know, TV dinner's not bad. To each their own ZZ Top song. Sleeping Bag is the best music video ever made, though.
I'm just going to put that out there. That's a bold statement. I stand, I will fight to the death. That's the hill I will die on. Battle Royale.
All the hills in my life. That having been said, I think we're going to round it out with glory. Thank you for putting up with this insanity and look forward to the Oscars and If we think we can survive, maybe we'll do this again next year. Otherwise, we'll remind you, get a life, we'll provide the soundtrack. One day, when the glory comes.
It will be ours, it will be. Ours Oh, one day, when the war is won We will be sure. We will be sure. Oh, glory. Glory.
Glory. Oh, glory. Glory. Hands to the heavens. No man, no weapon.
Yes, glory is destined. Everyday women and men become legends. Sins that go against our skin become blessings. The movement is a rhythm to us. Freedom is like religion to us.
Justice is juxtaposition in us. Justice for all just ain't specific enough. One son died, his spirit is revisiting us. True and living, living in us. Resistance is us.
That's why Rosa sat on the bus. That's why we walked through Ferguson with our hands up. When it go down, we woman and man up. They say stay down and we stand up. Shots, we on the ground.
The camera panned up. King pointed to the mountaintop and we ran up. One day, when the glory comes, it will. Be ours, it will be ours. Oh, one day, when the war is won, we will be sure, we will be.
Sure of your glory. Now the war is not over Victory isn't won But we'll fight on to the finish And then when it's all done We'll cry glory. Oh glory Oh We'll cry glory Oh, glory. Oh. Selma is now for every man, woman, and child.
Even Jesus got his crown in front. Of a crowd. They march with the torch. We gonna run with it now. Never look back.
We done gone hundreds of miles from dark roads, heroes, to become a hero. Facing the league of justice, his power was the people. Enemy is lethal. A king became regal. Saw the face of Jim Crow under a bald eagle.
The biggest weapon. It's to stay peaceful, we sing. Our music is the cuts that we bleed through. Somewhere in the dream we had an epiphany. Now we right the wrongs in history.
No one can win a war individually. It take the wisdom of the elders and young people's energy. Welcome to the story we call victory. The coming of the Lord, my eyes have seen the glory. One day when.
The glory comes, it will be ours. Oh, one day when the. Waters run, we will be sure, we. Will be sure. Oh, glory, glory, glory.
Oh, glory, glory, glory. Oh, glory, glory, glory. When the war is won When it's all said and. Done We'll cry glory Glory Glory Glory Glory Hallelujah. Are we going to take a break and come back and do next year or something?
We're just going to predict what next year's will be. I mean, they've already started pushing these movies. We know what's coming. It'll be Glory 2. Next year's a year for sequels.
Glory 2, A Lifeless Ordinary 2, Superstar 2. I heard that he would come back eventually, but I didn't know there was. Well, he got a little rock out of the way. Oh, I see. You really got to help him pry that thing out of there.
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