Seasonal Differences, Shifting Fandom

This is John Carroll Lynch and you are listening to Movie Meltdown. What's up? Welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian. I'm Misty.

I'm Jay. And we're coming to you live via digital recording from the outskirts of Lexington. Home of the Lexington Comic and Toy Convention. Woo! At a different time of year.

We are back for the second time. They have branched out into the fall category. That's why the sun's all in weird places. Yeah, seasonal differences and shifting planets and whatnot. It's all craziness.

But yeah, we are back for the fall version. Yes, the first time. They're testing out the waters. Seemed like it went pretty well. Mm-hmm.

We had reports that it's been pretty busy this weekend, so that is good. Saw lots of costume people. It was a lot. That's how we knew that this was the correct weekend. Yeah, that's true.

We were driving up, and we're like, are we sure we're... Nope, wait, there they are. All right. Usually when we're coming up here for this, there is a shit ton of traffic around the convention area, the place where it is taking place. There's usually traffic out the wazoo, and it was like, we're kind of wondering, I'm like, what's going on?

And then we're like, oh, Yep, there they are. We're good. Waiting at the crosswalk. There they were in their crazy outfits with their capes and. A fucking gambit, like.

And then someone's gonna stop a crime. Some dude, Jay says, dressed as Gambit. I don't know. He was kind of Gambit-esque. But then he forgot something and he had to make the walk of shame back from the way he just sprinted.

But he was sprinting. Dude, he was fucking trucking. He was heading to go stop a crime and throw some cards at him or something. And then all of a sudden he just got. To the other side.

Maybe he forgot his cards. That's it. He got there and all he had was a stick. He was like, well, I can't throw magical cards without my magical cards. That's for poking dead bodies.

Yeah, that's what you get a stick for. So he had to stop and wait at the crosswalk to go back again. Lame. He did not go back nearly as epically as he went the first time. There was like a fanfare when he ran the first time.

He was just trucking it across the street in superhero mode. I was like, holy shit, what's going on? He's about to go slam evil. He's going to go put the knockout on this dude and take down bad guys. You could see the disappointment as he realized he forgot something.

My keys. Probably. Probably. I don't know. The keys, the cards, anything.

His pass. That could have been it. I don't know. You could just see the superhero crumbled within him. Stupid real life things.

Like I didn't bring my fanny pack loaded up with my stuff. Don't forget the fanny pack. That's an important piece. Of your costume. That's where he puts the cards.

That's how Gambit does it on the shows. Does he? I don't know. I didn't watch 97. Me neither.

I've heard really good things, though. People like that. that last animated series that came out I'll get around to it eventually maybe no maybe but yeah so many I've realized certainly many times over the years but this time in particular today I was like so many girls that are half animals so many ears and tails on girls that I don't even I don't even know what they're tied to just some sort of crazy anime half fox girl or half monkey or whatever they are I don't. Know Yeah, I didn't notice as many. I only know that one dog person that we thought might have been McGruff. I said it was McGruff.

I really don't think she was McGruff and probably would have been insulted if I asked if she was McGruff. And also not known who McGruff was because she was probably like 20. If that. Yeah. We're losing the McGruff years.

References of dying right and left these days. You should call McGruff the crime dog to solve those. Yeah. Who killed the old timey references? Time.

Time. Time has killed them. As we were standing in front of people earlier. Because we also, as usual, go look for movies and books and random things after we're done at the convention. So I'm standing in the building in the corner over there.

And there's a girl who's knelt down looking at movies. And the other one's just sort of standing there. And she goes, have you seen Back to the Future? And the other immediately, without missing a beat, goes, no. Okay.

How do you live in this country and have not seen back to the future? Come on now, get with the program. I know she's still 20, but who cares? Get with the program. It's like when I went with the toy store and I was buying the, uh, punk ahead action figure.

And the guy was like, so is this movie worth checking out? I'm like, uh, it's one of the, it's a great movie, but don't go into it expecting like modern day, like effects and everything, you know, enjoy it. Like Stan Winston effects. I remember. Yeah.

You gotta expect it to be like, You're not going to have, you know, CG, a lot of CG and a lot of, you know, that's what I'm saying. You're going to have more practical things. It's going to be like, it's fucking better. It's going to look good. He's like, well, I don't know.

That's the problem I had with watching like the first Evil Dead movies. I'm like, well, fuck. And you smacked him. I'm like, just give me my pumpkin head. Just ring me up, bitch.

Give me my pumpkin head and let me go because you obviously don't know. I don't know. You could be a nice guy, but still. The first, Evil Dead, is fucking classic. And I guess because I watched it in the middle of the woods by myself, I guess it scared the bejesus out of me.

I was terrified. I remember renting it that first time and just kind of knowing not even that much about it. Just sort of knowing it by reputation. And I think 2 was already out because I think I also knew the creepy eyeballs staring at you in the skull box art on 2. So I think I just knew them as the first 2 by reputation of always being at the video store and me being a sucker for old VHS box art, both of which are classic and awesome VHS box art.

So I was just like, all right, I need to watch these. That first one, geez, it's just, it's weird and disturbing, especially having not seen anything like that. I mean, now it's its own franchise and we've seen a bunch of movies knock that off before, but like that first time things are all banging around the cabin and stuff. It's, it's pretty creepy. It's amazing.

So, yeah. I got Pumpkinhead. That was the extent of my excitement for me. I mean, at least he knew it was a character from a movie. Actually, he reached for the wrong one first.

I want Pumpkinhead and he went to reach for one on the shelf below. I'm like, oh, that is not Pumpkinhead. Okay, so he did smack him, right? I was just like, dude, come on now. What was he reaching for?

Not Pumpkinhead. I was like, if he was like way off. It was like some creature that had big teeth. Yeah, no. It looked like the thing that lived in the crate from like a The Tales from the Dark.

Creepshow? Maybe Creepshow, but it had long legs, so I don't know that that was it. That's also creepy, but still not Pumpkinhead. It was very much not Pumpkinhead. I'm like, oh, no, that's not Pumpkinhead.

I do not think so. Yeah. It's a generational thing sometimes. I don't like to pin too much on that, because I feel like that's not an excuse. Because I know somebody that I've come in contact with lately, and they're massively younger and they constantly are trying to pin things on generations like she'll be talking and she'll have like a whole big story going she'll be like well your generation like she'll go into this generalization i'm like number one you don't know that second of all i feel like kind of half of what you're saying is just generalized nonsense it's not even like i think everybody's so case by case basis.

Especially like an example of what you're talking about even not. Like she always uses that for like so many things like every day I will hear her reference different people of different generations and she'll be like well you always do this and I don't even know what she's talking about half the time I just know she constantly generalizes but I'm like especially in references like movie references now that's the weird thing going into like younger generations kids because like they have access to everything so they may have seen Back to the Future 20 times you don't know like just because it's old doesn't mean old I'm using quotes old to them doesn't mean they haven't seen it because now they have access to it and they certainly have the means to look up everything they want about any movie ever and know whatever they want so I think that's part of what's changing too is like kids are like learning about stuff way more than we did because we didn't have access to anything I was like Buying books.

I know. I don't even know how to read. But I was getting reference books of weird movies I'd never heard of before because that was the only way to find out about stuff like that. Versus now, kids can dive into anything and half the time can just click a button and watch it immediately. So it's very different these days.

So I don't sell them short. I don't expect that they've seen old stuff that I like. But I'm like, no, no, you can do your homework. You can get caught up. Equally as much as I'm supposed to be watching new stuff, and I don't always.

Yeah, I don't know the last new thing I saw. I still see new movies, but I'm certainly not as caught up as I'm sure some kid that's watching all the new stuff as it comes out. But I at least try to keep up with some of the new things. I don't. I'm the old person.

It's like, what do you mean they made another movie in general? Get off my lawn. I'm playing with pumpkin head out here. Dude, seriously. I'm just going back and buying old movies.

I do that most of the time. On DVD. As you've seen today. i bought it today and yesterday i bought old movies almost exclusively so this is all i've done. Yeah and it's like nothing in particular it's just certain movies i'm like yeah you know i want that movie you. Know i mean building up your man movie collection.

Just movies in general i mean there's movies that they're movies that i can like Veg out to and not have to really get into Lethal Weapon 1, 2, and 3. Classics. Classics. Escape from New York. Escape from L.A.

Stuff like that. That's one of the ones I watched yesterday. It's just silliness I can put on in the background. It's one of those I forget. I've seen Escape from New York so many times.

But having just rewatched it, it had been a long time since I watched it. I forget how like once he's in there, like the setting up the thing is so like grand scheme of like, whoa, look at this like crazy police state that they live in. And then like the freaking president's flying over and there's terrorists and like all of that kicks in. And then like the plan of like how he can get in there from that point on, it's so low stakes. Like, it's just like, he just kind of wanders around and looks in some buildings and see some punks hanging out.

Like, but like, the most grand thing that happens, I guess, is they throw him in that like wrestling ring and he like gets in the fight with the big dude. And like, that's pretty much the end of the movie. Like I always kind of think it's a bigger, more, you know, high stakes kind of a thing once he's in there, but the rest of it's pretty low stakes. It's just him trying to not die and make it back with the president. Yeah.

But it's a lot of just wandering around New York in the dark. Are we going to talk about the convention? Like, What we saw at the convention other than people in costumes? Most definitely. We saw Jennifer Stone.

The coolest person on earth. She was gorgeous. Always. I'm sure she still is. Always.

It's not like it changed within the past five hours or anything. Every day. Unless she's fallen off a rock by then. I see her posts on Instagram every day. Every time she's on there.

Gorgeous. Oh, duh. But also, super cool. As I was telling you, I was like, not only is she a super awesome actress, she's also a nurse. And not only like sitting back on the sidelines working on a specialty area that she hardly has to see people.

She's an ER nurse. So most of her days is just covered in grossness. And sometimes she will go in detail in them when she posts stuff. No thanks. And yeah, grossness, dealing with real people.

That's the worst part. She's the superhero right there dealing with people all day long. But then on top of that, she's like super sporty. And she's constantly posting stuff where she's hanging off the side of a mountain. And she's going like rock climbing.

And like doing death divine stuff. And she's just a badass. She's an all around badass. And she's gorgeous. Also that.

For anybody who doesn't know. She was on Wizard of Waverly Place. With the also gorgeous and fantastic Selena Gomez. And is currently back on there. They just brought it back around.

And they're wrapping up the reboot series. And she came back for the last season. Awesome. I haven't seen any of the new ones. I don't even know that I've finished the last ones.

But the show was amazing. It is pretty damn good. As I said earlier, for what is supposed to be a, I'm using quotes, kids show, it is really well written and some pretty solid comedy, I think, too. Luckily, we did not see Chris Kattan. Yeah, I was going to say, I think that was the balancing of the scales.

Like, we were super excited to see Jennifer Stone, wanted to avoid at all costs Chris Kattan. I didn't even know he was going to be there until, like, today. I've seen the posts, and I'm just like, hmm. I was creeped out with him back on SNL days. It's not gotten any less creepy these days.

Just not. I don't know what he does these days. I think most of them still end up doing stand-up tour kind of stuff. So a lot of them just get exclusive nights at specific stand-up places and tour around doing that. It seems like a lot of the old SNL cast I see doing that.

Has he done anything extra creepy or just general Chris Kattan creepy? I mean, maybe. If you guys want to dig into it, I'm not going to. So I'll just assume I think he's generally creepy and leave it at that. What if he's out saving puppies or something?

Maybe that's why we don't see him that often anymore. Virtual pat on the back. I don't want to get that close to you. A big thumbs up. Thanks for saving puppies.

I'll give you one of those if that's the case. If not, I'll just assume you're weird. I didn't say he wasn't eating the puppies afterwards. Allegedly. We don't know these things.

He would never. So luckily he wasn't at the table. We didn't have to see him. Didn't get to see Mark Summer though. Mark Summers?

I thought he was off washing his hands somewhere. Was he? 60 or 80 times. Does he wash his hands a lot? He's like super OCD.

Oh, okay. That was like the weird thing that came out after his like double dare days. Like of all people to have a weird super obsessive compulsive cleanliness kind of a thing. It was the guy who was surrounded by slime and slop and grossness and Kids shoving their hands up into a giant plastic nose. I loved that show when I was a kid.

It was pretty entertaining, I gotta say. It was. It was great. Back when TV was fun. Now it's just kind of, eh.

It's on. I watch things in the background sometimes. Occasionally there's stuff I actually like, but it's mostly just on. Are we going to talk about stuff we've watched recently? Yes.

Have you seen things? No. That's usually the case. That's why I was surprised. I was like, you've watched a thing?

Because usually you're like, I don't know. I don't know how to watch the game. You went back and watched all of them. I've been currently in the re-watching of American Horror Story. All right.

Did you start from the beginning? I did. I started at the beginning. I've re-watched seasons that I was not excited about re-watching. I'm getting ready to watch one that I didn't want to watch it the first time, so I didn't.

So this will be my first time watching it and I've not been looking forward to it. Which one is this? Cult? I pretty much don't know the difference. I know some of them brought in new actors that I heard about were part of it along the way.

But other than that, I don't know. I just originally didn't have the channel it was on and then haven't gone back to dig into it since then. I mean, I've heard good things. My friend Mel loves it. And then the thing that's got me...

Because I've told... Apparently, I'm Instagram friends with somebody who'd worked on it. Like, she did, like, the... I don't know the extent of what all she did on that one. She did, like, all the costume work and a lot of the character development, maybe.

That's a lot to deal with. And so she's like, you have to watch it. Because when I said that I was going to, you know, re-watch the series, you know, I might skip some, you know, I might skip some seasons. She's like, you better not be skipping any of my seasons. I did all of that work, and you're going to watch it.

So... I just finished with Roanoke last night. So that means that cult is, uh, it's queued up and I'm not dick. Cause the first time around, I watched like maybe the first 20 minutes of it. And it was just Sarah Paulson screaming and crying about the election.

And I was just like, Oh my God, this is stressing me out. I mean, she's a really good actress. She's amazing. They would give her. Yeah.

Better stuff. She's great. A lot. She's been in like every season thus far. It's not till later that she like skips out on a couple of seasons.

I think. She's got other stuff to do. I guess. So far, I have enjoyed every season that I have rewatched more this time around than the original time around. That's good.

Yeah. It's just hard to go into cult. What's your favorites of the original season? I think Asylum is amazing. And I think, I mean, Coven obviously is my favorite because it's got Emma Roberts in it, which I mean, she's in more seasons later.

She's also in the Delicate Condition or whatever, which is not one of my favorite seasons, despite the fact that it has her in it, because it has one of the other things that creep me the fuck out and I'm uncomfortable with, which is people being pregnant. Yeah, I keep telling people to stop having babies, but they never listen to me. I just, I can't, like, the whole opening sequence, you see, like, belly stuff moving, and I'm just like, oh my god, gross. Usually body horror doesn't bother me, but when it's pregnancy people, I'm just like, oh my god, I can't do it. Yeah, babies are a weird thing, let me tell you.

They're like fucking parasites. I mean, literally, for nine months. I know. His boyfriend's not watched any of it, I don't think. He's been there for a couple episodes of a couple seasons.

I'm not watching. I'm on my phone. I got my headphones in. But sometimes you did use it as an excuse to not go to bed on time. You would come back in there and kind of watch the screen.

I'm like, what are you doing? You were not watching. You were just trying to delay going to bed. Yeah. I don't want to go to bed.

Yeah. You can't make me. Yeah. Being an adult sucks. I'm telling you.

I try not to do as much of it as possible. That's stupid. Well, I got to get up at like 3 in the morning, so. That's awful. Yeah, it is.

I've done that. It's not good. But getting off at noon is pretty cool. Yeah. It's not good.

I've played it. I don't like that schedule. Yeah, I mean, it's funny. You know, I used to work at a bakery. Mm-hmm.

And it was 3 to noon. And actually, it was like 3 to 1. And then I was like, I'm going to go get a real job with a real schedule. Yeah. And it was like 7 to something.

I don't know. 7 to 4? 30? or something like that. I did one of those 7 ones yeah and I was. Like oh cool and then I switched jobs and went to this job and it was back to 3 to noon because it gets so hot in there which I don't work in a bakery anymore because you know I was like Working in a bakery sucks and it's hot.

I need to go find a better job. So I became a welder. Yeah, how'd that work out for you? Yeah, you know, it's hotter. It's hotter.

It's hotter anyway and then you're standing next to a flame the whole time. Yeah, and then I'm getting burned and stuff and that's all, you know. But yeah, now I still leave it noon now, you know, which is better because it's not as hot during the day. But I eventually switched closer to a regular world schedule and that part makes more sense. Like that part.

I'm like, yeah, I can see this. I still don't want to be stuck at work. So every day I'm just like, Oh, why do I have to go to work? This is stupid. But getting up and going, you know, normal ish hours is, is more functional as like trying to have a normal life.

But normal is very relative anyway, for the likes of me. So none of it really makes any sense. So have you been watching something other than what she's been watching? Me? Yeah.

Uh, No. No. The only movie-related thing that I have is Thrashing's 40th anniversary. It happened at the Skateboarding Hall of Fame last weekend. And I got an invite to go, but we couldn't go.

Because your girlfriend's lame and won't get on a plane. I know. I know that. You could have had the same amount of fun that Floyd did. What do you mean?

How miserable he was. Oh, you know what? Layovers don't bother me, though, you know, because I'm not. Me reacting to him. Yeah, whatever.

Anyways, but he brought me back an Eddie Raddy board signed that was one of the daggers. He's one of the daggers in the movie. So that was cool. So other than that. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. So, I got that, and he brought me some shirts and stuff like that. So that's cool. So, this was a specific theater, or it just was somewhere that they. Were showing it?

No, no, they had it at the Skateboarding Hall of Fame. Oh, well, that's pretty cool. So, yeah, it's cool. No big deal. So, he brought me some stuff for help watching the shop and taking care of his animals and stuff like that.

It's a trade-off. Yeah, it's a trade-off, so it's no big deal. But other than that, no, not really. Just collecting DVDs and CDs because I'm eventually going to break away from Spotify just because I'm tired of paying monthly subscription fees and stuff like that and going to go back to my MP3 player and stuff. I mean, that's pretty much.

I don't want to pay for any of those. And I think most of them still don't deliver very good music options. No, they don't. So I don't bother with any of it. I might put it on a certain, usually a video service that also has music.

And that I don't pay for because they have a free version too. And it's not as many ads as I expected. So if I put it on anything, sometimes I'll put that on at work. But for my normal life, I did that. I've got a bajillion CDs from the olden days. most of which I've just digitally transferred over anyway, and they're all on my phone.

So half the time, if I'm going to listen to music, I just put it on my phone and randomize it out of all the stuff that's already there. Well, I used to have that on my phone, uh, but then I shoot a lot of video on my phone. So awesome skateboarding videos in case you guys didn't know already. Yeah. I do a lot of skate video stuff, but, um, I do a lot of editing and stuff on my phone.

I need to actually get a laptop and start doing editing on my laptop instead of using my phone memory. I would think it's a lot easier. I can't stand doing stuff on my phone. But having done more editing stuff lately on the computer, it's not bad if I'm on the computer. Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe I need to get back to a computer because I haven't had a desktop or a laptop in probably 10 years. And it feels like I do everything on my phone now, like all my editing and everything's done. on the phone. I just don't like doing it that way. But there's some good options on the computer, so yeah. I think laptop would be fine.

Well, I have watched some things. There was one I was thinking you might... I was wondering if you'd seen, if not, had even heard of. I remember when it came out, but I just got a chance to watch They Will Kill You. It just came out earlier this year.

I remember hearing about that, but I have not seen it. It's one of those, and I was sold initially because, I mean, outside of the previously mentioned guest today, there's few people cooler than Zazie Beetz. Like, Zazie Beetz is so damn cool. I have no idea what you're talking about. Zazie Beetz.

Repeating it's not going to make more sense. If you saw the second Deadpool, which I know you did, she's Domino. Okay. So, she's super cool. But she's in a lot of other stuff these days, but she's in this one, and it's like a weird crazy like action movie and I'm like alright I want to see this it's a weird tone like once you get into it it takes like about.

The first 20 minutes or. So to be like alright I mean I think it also gets less extreme like it seems like as soon as the fighting type stuff starts it's just a weird way that they're shooting and way that maybe they've edited it like it just seems like choppy but maybe purposefully done choppy I don't know it's very weird the way that they like set up the action shots especially in the beginning of the movie, which is you kind of coming to terms with, wait, what am I watching? But I was mostly sold as it continued on how weird it is. Like it is just, she goes to this building and like, it's supposed to be like a hotel. More or less.

And they have a housekeeper ad that like, she's kind of there for other purposes, but she's pretending to go get this job and she gets in there and like immediately it's just like, they're people just trying to kill her. And then, um, as it goes on it gets into weirder and weirder stuff and I'm just like you know for a relatively mainstream movie this is pretty twisted so yeah it's entertaining if you like a ton of action but it's also relatively gory so yeah weird gory stuff mixed in with action. I do like my gore as long as it's not pregnancy gore yeah I. Don't think there's any baby action going on here so yeah I think it's all just standard grossness and people It may or may not die. There's that.

Yeah, it's weird. But yeah, it's entertaining and she kind of sells it. So I was on board with it. Other than that, I don't think we've watched anything else. Have you watched anything else?

I did watch Dead Man's Wire, which is the end of last year. Gus Van Zandt put it out. And it's interesting because I think it's Indianapolis it happened in. So it's actually based on a true story from like the 70s. And they like shot half of it.

I think they actually shot a good amount of it in Louisville. Subbing in for Indianapolis, oddly enough. Because there are times when I'm like, I think that is downtown. I think that's... So it's interesting that they bothered to come back to his hometown to shoot something that was also taking place relatively close to this area anyway.

But. Who was in that one? This one is... Let me see. Everyone's favorite Bill Skarsgård.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, I don't know the other guy. I don't even know how to pronounce that. Dacre?

It's D-A-C-R-E? Seems like I should know that, because he's from Stranger Things, isn't he? He is. Is it Dacre Montgomery? Yeah.

Because he was Billy. Yeah, he's the brother. I don't. Know if it's Dacre, like acre with a D. I don't know.

I'm not sure he's good in it. They're both really good in it. Like it's, it is a, he's good as Billy. Billy's just a jacket. I mean, that's the thing.

Like that's how, you know, he's a hell of an actor. Cause like you, you wouldn't dislike Billy so much if he wasn't a good actor. You'd just be like, ah, that guy's so good at being just an awful person. Yeah. He sucks in that third season.

So I'm just like, what is going on here? But yeah, he's, um, they're both really good at it. Like it, it, it originally took place. It's a guy who was, it's sort of like that. What was the money monster?

The one that was like a guy that was losing money and took somebody hostage. But this actually happened in the seventies. So he like was getting screwed out of a like real estate deal. So he thought, and so he took it upon himself to go to the bank and he was going to take the owner as hostage to like get him out of his situation and get him back his like deal that he thought he was supposed to get. And the owner wasn't there.

He was, like, off on vacation, you know, doing whatever he wants because he's a rich guy. But his son was there running the show. And so he just was like, all right, good enough. You'll do. And he takes his son hostage.

And he, like, the title is, like, he hooks up. And they showed footage of it afterwards. He really did this. He hooks up a wire that's from him to a shotgun attached to him. And so if he does anything, if they, it's also connected to him as the one to the gun so if they shoot him and he like drops dead like it also kills the other guy so he's got this like rigged up little wired system that keeps it so that he's constantly at gunpoint and also they can't kill him or it kills the hostage as well and he really did all that shit in the 70s so it's it's an interesting story and you start to kind of see his perspective, but then you really, you're still pretty, you feel pretty bad for the other guy who had nothing to do with it.

Like his dad's a dick, but like he didn't have anything to do with that. He's just like came into work doing his job. Like, so that one's pretty interesting and had a, a real world tie in that was pretty, pretty surprising. And it was this, you see footage of it and it's like, no, they're really close. Like they, they were pretty accurate on this stuff when they recreated everything.

So, Yeah, I was impressed with it. Just Fans Ant still knocking out good movies, man. According to the internet, it is Dayker. Like, Aker with a D. Dayker.

I don't think I'd ever heard it said, so I guess that's why I didn't know what to do with it. Well, if you had Aker, Dayker. Yeah, I'm just saying in general. For as much as he was in the spotlight, I don't remember anybody ever saying it in interviews or anything. I don't like how they break down his last name, though.

Because, I mean, usually Montgomery, I'm not going to have a problem with. For them to say Monta-ga-ma. We need all the help we can get. They don't even pronounce the second M. I'm so confused.

That's still too much M. Monta-ga-ry. I think that's... That ain't how words go. I don't trust you, internet.

Lies, I tell you, lies. I don't know. Have you done any other interesting geek activities? Hmm. Boyfriend's been skateboarding a lot, which we already talked about that.

Have you injured yourself any? I mean, I haven't broken anything. That's a plus. I busted my elbow the other day in the pool. I started skating pools.

I would think harder to find those around here. Well, bowls. Yeah, we're not like an in-ground pool kind of a part of the country. No, but they've built several parks. Yeah.

Uh, and they have like, uh, bowls with pool coping and stuff like that tile around them to simulate pools. Cool. So I've been getting into that, but I slipped, uh, slipped in one of them. So I had a wheel kind of slide out on me and, uh, fell and one of my elbow pads rode up and then I busted my elbow somehow. Not sure how that happened, but that's about it.

You know, other than that, I've gotten pretty good at knee sliding out of falls and stuff. That's an important thing to learn. Yeah. The hard way, probably. Yeah.

So, yeah, I've just been skating a lot, probably three, four, sometimes five days a week. That's a lot. I need to probably slow down and take a few recovery days, but that's kind of hard to do when you don't want to slow down. So, you know, I'm just, it's good if you want to do it though. That's the thing.

Yeah. I'm kind of looking at it like we're only on this planet for a short time. So, and you know, I'm only going to be this young for so long, you know, cause, and you're pushing it already. Yeah. I'm already pushing it, you know?

So, uh, next year you'll be a whole year older. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not getting any younger. So yeah, but it's, uh, Not really.

It's inspirational, but then it's also good to know that there are guys out there in their 60s that are still skating. That's true. Occasionally, every once in a while, we'll see. There was somebody else I ran across on Instagram, too. It just popped up probably because I'm watching your stuff, and it's now starting to link me to other things that are skateboard related.

But there's another dude that. Is like, hey. 53, just starting to start skating again. I was like, oh, okay. I know that guy.

Same age as me. I was like, here we go. Let's do it. So it's a thing. The good thing is that a lot of the guys that I grew up skating with have now all gotten back into it too.

Thanks to you, kind of. Yeah, kind of thanks to me. I've dragged them back in. They're like, no, don't make me. Yeah.

My busted knees. My hip. Yeah, there's a lot of complaining about hips and backs and stuff like that and trying to get people to stretch. That's one thing. Stretching's dumb.

I don't want to do that. Hey, stretch for the fall, you know, not the ride. So, but, you know, it's been a life-changing experience. I think Misty likes me better now. I'm not as a stick in the mud and.

You're wearing crazy socks now. Yeah, whatever. You used to, like, talk shit about guys wearing, like, crazy fun, like, quirky socks. No, because I wasn't a fun person. I was pretty much a stick in the mud and angry and just not really happy, you know.

I've been there. So, yeah. Maybe you need to start skateboarding. I barely am functional at this point. There's already creaking and popping and weird things going on, so I'm just trying to keep moving.

If I keep moving, everything will keep working, but So I'm trying not to be overly stationary. Yeah. Yeah. Movement's key. Yeah.

But I, I, as I've discussed a lot more lately and with other people getting into doing more podcasting with different people and crossing over and this, this is the one thing that I enjoy doing. So it's like over the years I've been like, what am I doing? Why am I still doing this? And then like recently I've been like, no, screw it. Like this is, this is what I like doing.

This is what I was doing before there was podcasting. I would hang out and talk about movies and be geeks with other geeks. And like, that's what we did. And like, then I found a way to record it. I was like, Oh, this is its own thing now.

So now it's like this many years in, I'm like, what am I going to not do this? And just sit at home and be bored as well as annoyed at the world. It's like, I'm still slightly annoyed at the world, but like the few times I enjoy myself is when I, get involved with other geeks and talk about movies and talk about pop culture stuff. And just that's, that's the best part of life at this point. So it's like, yeah, yeah, let's get, let's get together and do this.

Is it just me? Or have you noticed that like pop culture is kind of, maybe it's just me, but I'm like pop culture kind of like trying to think how to word this today doesn't exist. When you think about pop culture, it's all from the 80s and 90s. And maybe the early 2000s. But is there pop culture being created now that we don't know about?

I mean, there is, just because you look at what caught on this last year. And again, I'm mostly in movies, so that's the thing. As much as I think specifically, not to play the game of your generation, but Gen X kids were like a dividing line. We grew up watching pop culture stuff. Like, World War II kids didn't have none of that.

They're like, shut up and go get a job. Or go to war. These are your options. Like, they just didn't have time to indulge in that. And Gen X kids came along and were just like, ooh, Gilligan's Island.

This is awesome. Cartoons. Yes. Like, everything they did, like, they had just enough time. They still were weird hardcore kids and they were out there biking around and skateboarding and getting into trouble.

Well, I know them and, like, millennials and maybe kids... my kid's age, but a lot of her pop culture stuff is my stuff. You know? It is, but they're creating, again, I think most of that new wave of kids has shifted internet. Everything is so internet based because it's been there since they've been conceived. Well, no, I mean, my kid's still like, when she talks about like, okay, her, she's into pop culture, but she's into like, Godzilla.

You know, Mystery Science Theater. Like, music, like, stuff that I raised her on That, unfortunately, she can't really talk to other kids about. I think that all factors into the parents, too. Because I know so many, again, the geeks that I talk to, a lot of their kids are like that. But that's because they were such hardcore geeks into that kind of stuff.

Yeah. That they just immediately, like, sometimes without even trying. Sometimes without even forcing it on them. Just, like, because it was always around. By osmosis, they picked up that level of geekiness and that specific types of things that they were into.

But I have noticed a lot of the kids, because it's funny, like, okay, now we're old because my coworkers are now my kids' age. You know, people coming into the workforce are now my kids' age or younger. But I notice they're always, like, referencing, like, SpongeBob and stuff like that, which is kind of funny because, like, I watched a lot of Spongebob with my daughter growing up. And you're not even a stoner, is the weird one. No.

Because that has its own group. But it was just so mind-numbingly stupid. And I'm into some stupid-ass shit. It's entertaining. They know what they're doing.

It's entertainment. Just mindless entertainment. They know what they're doing. So, like, they'll reference shit and stuff. But I get it.

And they're like, what? You know. Just dumb stuff. You know. But.

See, I think that's because I ask we were playing this game of like, do you know what this is? is earlier yeah i was asking misty about the amazing digital circus and i was like are you familiar with that which i don't think you are nope still not but That, I mean, it's, like, a weird thing that, like, some random dude, like, I know minimal about it, but I was like, I've heard other people talk about it, but, like, it's a guy that just started doing this animated thing on his computer, and he did it, like, pretty much single-handedly. And, like, it took so long because he was doing it the old-fashioned way, like, him by himself, basically. And so there's only, like, eight or ten episodes out there, and it was over years for him to get that long.

But by the end, it got picked up by Netflix, and... It had this huge following with all these new kids. And then it like theatrically, the last episode ran in theaters and had like a huge turnout and they're selling like tons of go to freaking hot topic a couple of months ago. And it was wall to wall digital circus kids. Like it was nothing but merchandise for that thing that again, adults had no idea what this was.

I think maybe a, You've. Probably seen the characters and went, what the hell is that? Because, yeah, it's like I saw them and went, wait, that's familiar, but I don't know what it's from. Yeah, because I asked my daughter about it and she wasn't into it, but she said her sisters were into it. Yeah, that girl.

She's like the main, yeah, she's the main focus. She's on all the merch and like, but it's like kind of weird and dark from what I've heard. So it's not like kid stuff. It looks like it would be totally kiddified. The Amazing Digital Circus?

Uh-huh. It looks like it would be super kiddy, but like once you get into it, it's a lot of like existential crisis and like again that's what kids are like super serious now so they like they identify with that stuff they're not dumb like they're they're ignorant sometimes because they're kids but like they're the new wave of kids like if you give them the right stuff they're smart enough to process this stuff so it's like i actually have kind of hope for the future with with kids coming up because then you also look at like that massive pushback in theaters and a lot of that was like kids off the internet it was it was obsession and it was back rooms and like both of those were, like, 20-year-old kids that started doing nothing but YouTube.

Like, they came up on YouTube. My daughter. Because, yeah, because it existed since they were born. And, like, this is how they learned to express themselves. And, like, this was their art form.

Yeah. And they immediately, like, finally some network, you know, studio bigwig somewhere went, oh, wait, we can make money off this. Hold on. Throw them a couple bucks here. Let them make something.

And, like, people showed up in droves. And, like, that stuff, like, especially something like, Because Obsession is just like old school horror, essentially. It's well made and well acted. But like the back rooms is so weird and is so specifically like born of the Internet that there's no way this movie would have ever existed on its own. Like had the base not been built for a decade or more on the Internet, it wouldn't have caught up with all these other. again, more square people that weren't all that into it were also showing up going, wait, what are these kids talking about?

So it's like, I do see, like, there's this weird push of pop culture that kids are into that is just sort of, like, out of the wavelength of what, you know, grown-ups are paying attention to, but, like, eventually it's getting picked up just enough for them to start making money off of, the important part, and then it catches on. Well, the other pushback I've noticed, too, with kids is, like, there's this whole movement towards physical media again. Yeah, I've seen that lately, too. I'm 100% on board with that. Like, my kid's asking me about CRT TVs.

And I've got one, but she's not going to get it. Because that's ours, you know? Because she's going back and playing Nintendo 64. Is it the one in the bedroom? Yeah, it's the one in the bedroom.

That was hers originally? Was it? She doesn't even know that. Yeah, well, I bought it. Or somebody bought it.

We bought it. I don't know. Either I bought it or you bought it. I don't give a shit. That's my Conan TV.

That's your sick, need your Conan medicine TV. For people who don't know, if I ever get sick with the flu, the only cure is watching Conan the Barbarian, Conan the Destroyer, and Red Sonja. Part three in the trilogy. Yeah, part three in the trilogy while being completely blitzed on cough syrup and NyQuil. Usually I just drink a bunch of NyQuil and then go into a weird...

You cocoon yourself. Yeah, I cocoon myself and sweat it out like a sweat lodge and go into this crazy Conan-fueled, you know, tripping balls fever dream. Yeah, it's wild. I mean, that first Conan movie is pretty trippy anyway. It's very art house for something that became just, let's slash people up with swords.

But I'm like, truthfully, it had a real director. It had like actual weird visuals that like you wouldn't expect for, you know, the next two became way more popcorn. Yeah. First one's pretty, pretty trippy. First one's great.

Second one. Yeah. It gets a little campy. I liked the second one at the time. I have not watched it a million years, but it's way more popcorn.

It is. And then, uh, Of course, Red Sonja. That's a great movie. It's silly, but it's good. But yeah, I think that's a push.

I think the last half of this push was like, but vinyl has been a thing forever if you were a vinyl dork. Yeah. But like kids getting introduced to media in general, I think vinyl was that first thing that were like, Oh, this is what you do. This is the cool thing. And using air quotes.

Yeah. Even vinyl. But even CDs have caught back on like in a point. That big Sony thing recently, it's kind of kicked everybody in the ass. And they were like, yeah, You don't own anything you get from them.

Oh, yeah. That didn't help on their part. Yeah, yeah. The stuff with the video games, that's really pushed kids into going back to, like, the old video games that their parents had that they kind of grew up with. Music is another one.

I noticed a lot of kids are going back to wired earbuds just because they say the music quality is better. You know. I just don't like... I barely use the wireless ones, and I hate trying to connect them, because half the time, one or the other doesn't want to connect. Oh, my God.

Dude, you have no idea how many arguments... That's what I'm saying. The arguments I've heard between boyfriend and his headless... Headless. His wireless.

He's going to be headless if he don't watch himself. His wireless headphones. Oh, my God. I'm like, dude. I'm telling you.

That's why eventually I just went back to the wire. I'm like, it's fine. I'll just yank it on stuff every once in a while. Yeah. The crappy thing is now is like most phones don't have a.

You got to use the bottom jack, the power jack. That's the only one I use. But still, that's an extra dongle you got to buy. You can't. Dongle.

Yeah, that's what it's called. It's called a dongle. They have a headphone jack, but you can't put it in there because the case won't allow it to go in all the way. Oh, yeah. And it unplugs itself.

Again, which is why I'm going back to an MP3 player. You know? That, and I don't need alerts every five seconds. I'm busy working, you know? And I'm getting alerts on my phone, so I got to stop what I'm doing, walk over and look at my phone.

Just to see that it's like, Sam's Club is running a special. Dude, I don't fucking care. Mine tells me every time some random person posted a photo, I'm like, I don't, okay, fine, later I'll look at it. Why do you need to alert me of this? Yeah, I've muted all my notifications to that, but I still get dumb texts from my coworkers.

Oh my god, yeah. You know, notifications either from Sam's Club or Pull Apart or Something dumb that I've subscribed to and then I've got to keep typing stop. Oh, you've unsubscribed from it. Then I get messages again. Yeah, I think every time I've tried to stop, they still keep sending me.

I'm like, what's the point of offering this thing? Every time I unsubscribe to an email, it still shows up two days later. I'm like, what's the point? Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think a lot of that's kicked in with the last generation and a half of kids that have started picking up on like, oh, this way wasn't, you know, they made fun of us for still doing that for a while.

But eventually they were like, oh, well, this part's kind of cool. So they started picking and choosing which parts of it they liked. And like, I think as the kids get older, they're like, well, this is cool. Well, yeah, that and the fact that like, if I want to watch a movie, and I don't have it and I go on streaming service and they don't have it, then I'm, I can't watch it. Yeah.

I mean, that's, well, and I'm just so, and this is a regular thing that I complain about. I'm just so sick of all the ads. Like that's the, I will go, but cause now you can go find, even if it's like a lame DVD, it's like, you can go buy a lame DVD for a buck, but I can get in and out of the movie in an hour. And a half versus over two hours. Sometimes, sometimes it's like two and a half hours for a regular movie because they, one of six ads will pop up.

And then 15 minutes later, one of six ads again. I'm like, really? I'm like, I don't need to be here all day. I've got other stuff I'd like to do instead of just make this mini series go on all day. Like, just let me watch the movie and be done with it.

And I'll be back to watching an old DVD because of that. Yeah. So they're probably learning that the hard way too. Like, why are all these ads on here? Well, that, you know, um, The fact that people were buying games and stuff like we had talked about before, and then they just erased everybody's games.

Just yanked your movies out from under you. You don't own it. Yeah, you don't own it. Well, yeah, that's why I'm buying physical media again, so that I do own it. I never stopped.

I never switched to digital on anything, really. Everything I bought, and kind of for that reason, like, I still bought CDs for the handful of new music I would buy. If I could find it on CD, I would buy it just so I'd have a hard copy of it. Yeah, I've still got a lot of my old CDs. I still listen to a majority of the same music I listen to.

I do, too. There's some stuff, though, that I've kind of branched out on, like some Synthwave. I'm trying to think. There's some other stuff that I don't have that I can't get that's either local music or... some more obscure punk that is like, Oh, it was only available on a seven inch and now I can't find it. And if I do find it, uh, they want like some stupid amount of money for, you know, I'm still, it's like just, you know, certain things like I'm, I'm trying to find, uh, Thrasher magazine, skate volume 10.

They made it on cassette and I think they might've made it on CD, but my buddy, uh, Josh, uh, He had it on cassette tape, and we used to listen to it every day when we were skating up at his house, because he lived out in the middle of nowhere, but he had a paved driveway, and it was a fairly large paved driveway, but what was even better than that is he had a parking block out there, and I don't know where he got the, he probably stole it, but He had a parking block. Allegedly. He's dead now, so. Nobody can come back and get him. But we would wax and skate that parking block for, you know, just hours while he was blasting that music.

So that, that's gotta be early, like, Early 90s. 89 or 90 is when it came out, and I just have not been able to find it. You found one copy in Germany, I think, right? I found a cassette tape. A cassette tape in Germany, but then it was like, what was it, like $ 60?

Yeah, it was $ 30 for the cassette and then $ 30 for shipping. $ 30 for shipping? I'm just like, eh. There's a lot of that stuff that I... Yeah, because I've noticed looking for stuff that I have... Sometimes I'll have the CD and I'll be like, oh, maybe I'll just see if I can find it streaming just for the hell of it.

See if it's on YouTube. There's some stuff that just isn't. It's a weird compilation that I bought on CD because I'm a weirdo. And then I'm looking for it and I'm like, I can't even find... No one has bothered to transfer this weird compilation from 30 years ago onto CD onto YouTube.

Yeah, somebody actually put this on YouTube. So that's the only way I've been... able to listen to it. Yeah. And I don't even know how I found it or how I came across it, but it popped up and I was like, holy shit, I haven't heard this in like fucking 30 years. And I was like, now I got to find it.

Surely it's out there. And then I went to look for it and yeah. Good luck, buddy. That's the thing. I will make use of the new technology because that's, I love the weird stuff, especially the like, I don't want to take money from anybody.

Like if it's stuff that's still licensed, you know, go buy the new thing. But, like, the stuff that's gone into public domain, the stuff that's totally lost and nobody even knows who owns Wright's Den anymore, and people stick that stuff on YouTube, like, that saves it. Like, that salvages it for future generations that, like, people want to hear this music and want to see these movies and, like, sticking them out there and letting people pull it and, like, work it into the dark web that exists out there with all of our stolen material. It's like, well, you know, for the stuff that's not... licensed it's like i like that it saves that kind of stuff so i will definitely make use of finding stuff like that if if that's the situation it falls into that is just lost to the ages.

Otherwise yeah luckily a lot of the synthwave stuff is on bandcamp because the artists are so small yeah that i can either buy physical copies from them because they make like limited numbers of cds and they actually even do vinyl too which is pretty cool because earlier in the year uh magic sword and uh was it dance with the dead yeah dance of the dead and magic sword played in louisville and i got a dance with the dead vinyl like a colored vinyl and actually got everybody to sign it which was cool because at the end of the show i was like hey can i get everybody to sign the vinyl and they were like yeah you know yes please that's awesome you know i was like make it out to me because I'm not going to sell it.

I'm not going to put it on eBay. I want it made out to me. You know, that's carrying over because that's again, old man that I am. But every once in a while, because of random things will pop up on streaming. I will find new stuff.

So there is in this last eight month period, I had never heard of this band, found them, was like, Oh, I actually like this overall what they're doing. And then like their latest album, there's like a whole new aspect to it. And I'm like, this is really good. They were coming to town. I went and saw them in person.

Everyone else there was like half my age. But I'm like, I went to physically see a band live because I heard of them. And like, this is the way it used to go. These guys were cool. And I went and saw them play live.

And then they were selling merchandise. They had CDs. And they were all signed by the band. And I was just like, this is awesome. And I bought that CD.

And I'm listening to it on my phone. So it's like, it's all... still kind of going on. It's just a little clunkier in the way that it works, but it's still for anybody that's paying attention or any artists that are putting an effort in, it's still out there. So it's like, you just got to look for that stuff. Yeah.

You know, I went with my daughter because my daughter got me into that music, which is, you know, it's kind of funny because I had my kid, like I introduced her to like kind of industrial and, uh, Some of it's her mom, too. It's both of us because we all listen to a lot of the same stuff, but a lot of industrial, alternative, goth, stuff like that. I introduced her more to the electronic stuff because I was always more into club music and techno. It's not really cyber goth. House is a little too dancey.

Yeah, not house, but, like, just definite, like, you know, hardcore techno. Yeah. And then she started getting into, like, dark synth. Yeah. And.

There's such, like, layers upon layers of all of this stuff. Yeah, it's like. Subsections of, like, metal bands on, yeah. Dark synth, and then chiptune, and then... What was the other one?

There's, like, some of it's, like, dream wave and mall wave. And, uh, like I get into mall wave, fucking love mall wave. Shoe gaze was just the beginning. Yeah. You know, but, uh, mall wave is really good.

Chill wave, uh, stuff like that. That's just, you know, relaxing. Yeah. She kind of, kind of got me into that. And that's, you know, it's kind of cool because, you know, it's like I've influenced her, in one way and then she's influenced me into listening to music too.

Yeah. And, uh, it's been pretty fun. Um, it's funny cause her mom doesn't like a lot of what she listens to, but it's like, so that makes it even more me and me and her have a lot of the same music tastes, which is kind of funny, but, uh, for the most part, but she doesn't like, I don't think she likes like early, early punk. I mean, she likes Ramones and clash and stuff like that. Devo, but, Um, she doesn't get into like, uh, uh, some of the other stuff that I like, you know, I mean, she's not like a suicide, early suicidal tendencies fan, doesn't get into thrash metal or anything like that, but that's okay.

There's some kid out there that's into him. It's fine. It's no big deal, you know? So it's all coming back. But, I mean, that's also part of what we see at these conventions, too.

Like, there's so many kids out there. And, like, I think that's part of this wave that's changed over the last 10, 20 years, too, is, like, people are physically going out in the world again for specific events like this. Maybe not as much as, you know, we used to back in the olden days, but that's because we didn't have good stuff at home to do either. So, like... there is this kind of stuff that like is, is bringing people out. Like there's people physically creating, you know, media and people that are making these movies, making these shows.

And then you get people that are excited to come out into the real world and meet them and like shake their hand and get an autograph and take a photo. And like, that's all real physical, tangible things that are, like going on and are bringing people out. And specifically we see a lot of kids there. We did see a tiny Columbia today. Yeah.

It's like, there's, there's whole new generations that are getting caught up in the, in the convention part of it, which again is very healthy, I think, because you're seeing these are real people. Like this is an AI generated nonsense. Like this is people writing this stuff. This is people shooting these things. Like, and then they're physical people that are out there having to make a living afterwards.

So they do these conventions and like, this is, number one, you get out and support them and that's good, but you're also like giving them another way to survive and like be able to live until the next movie that they make. So it's like, this is all part of a bigger system that like, I, I still, I'm glad to kind of see new generations embracing this too. Yeah. They get influenced by it. They go off and create their, their own thing that's new.

And then the cycle continues. Yeah. And they all go and draw crazy art. Yeah. Everybody there is like 20 years old and drawing crazy art.

Half girl, half animal art. Like, there's so many crazy, dreamy girl stickers in there, which, hey, we bought some of that, too. Yeah, but there's, like, a lot of cryptid stuff. And, like, tons of that's kicking in now. Cutie, like, animals and stuff like that, you know?

The cutie little Cthulhu's and stuff. Yeah, stuff like that. I'm just like, why isn't my kid at these things? But then I realize she's got, like. Well, she doesn't have any social skills, but then Misty's like, well, most of these people don't have.

Any social skills either. I was gonna say, this whole place is nothing but people with no social skills. That's why we're all here. We're gathered together. Yeah, I think she has...

It's not her thing because she has her Patreon and then she has her store and everything like that. So she just sells her art on her store. And she's pretty successful at that. And so, you know, again, she doesn't have to go out in the real world and meet people. She doesn't have to leave the basement.

She doesn't have to leave the basement. It's difficult for some kids. I might have spent a lot of years in the basement. What do I know? But I occasionally get out and meet people.

I mean, technically, she's not in the basement. She's upstairs, but... But we bought stuff. You got stickers? I did.

I got cryptid stickers. Yeah, you got cryptid stickers. Adorable cryptids. They are adorable. And see, I'm still doing things in the 3D world because I bought minifigs.

So, one of which might be legal. The other one looked kind of knock-off-y, but I don't normally get into the knock-off ones, but this one was at least entertaining. But yeah, you're building things and creating things three-dimensionally. These are all real-world things. So, get out in the world and buy things and meet people and do things maybe not all the time but every once in a while leave your basement and go out and do cool stuff and connect with people at conventions and places.

Where you buy conventions like. Conventions like the lexington comic and toy convention So we do want to thank them for letting us be part of the show. They are available at lexingtoncomicon.com. So go there and start booking. Normally I say for next year, but now it's not even a year away because you're going to be back in the springtime for a whole nother round.

So go there and start planning your trip for, I bet they've already got the date set. I bet they've already signed up some guests already coming. So yep, just go there and get planning on your trip to the next one. Anything else to pass along this week? I can think of.

All right. Well, we occasionally do these crazy road trip shows, so we will be back with one not too far into the distant future. Occasionally. Be prepared. Sporadically.

For another one of those. Sporadicus. I am sporadicus. I am sporadicus. I am sporadicus.

On that note, otherwise that about does it. We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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