The Time of Our Lives

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Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power. What's up? Welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Misty.

And I'm Jay. And we're coming to you live via digital recording from Lexington, home of Scarefest. We are once again back at Scarefest. How many years has it been? I didn't go last year.

11,000. That's a lot of years. Pretty much every year since Scarefest began being Scarefest. So, I feel like it is part of our history, our tradition. So, we made our annual stop at Scarefest.

And then the bookstores. Well, that's a given, obviously. If you leave the house, you're going to bookstores. Hell yeah. So, before we get into that, have you seen anything?

Interesting. We'll say spooky, but it's post-Halloween. But still, you know, we're at Scarefest, so, you know. Boyfriend's finally starting to realize that horror movies is the way to go when it comes with me, so he's actually picked the last two movies that we watched. He has been in charge of, and he picked two horror movies, so I'm very proud of him.

Would you like to discuss the very first one you picked? Sure. Go for it. Go for it. Go for what?

Oh. What did we watch? Uh... Oh, yeah. Blood Rage.

A.K.A. Slasher. Slash. A.K.A. Slash.

Whatever other titles it had. Because apparently it had quite a few titles. Is this the Thanksgiving one? It's not Cranberry Sauce. I am not going to listen because we're doing this for Thanksgiving this year.

We're beating you to it. You better just give it a roundabout because we're going to be getting into it in another. Week or so. Okay. Well, we watched that.

So I guess since you're going to cover it, we won't go into too many details. You can give your general thoughts on it. It's not cranberry sauce. All right. I fully enjoyed this movie.

See, I couldn't tell. We brought it up, and I was like, well, I know it's got some sort of basic tie-in, which is all you really get for Thanksgiving. There's not a lot of Thanksgiving horror. There are a few. Nothing as horrendous as last year, but that's why I was.

Like, anything. What did you watch last year? Oh. Oh. And nothing bad about the first one.

I love the first one. But that second movie, Slash 3, is an atrocity. I love Turkzilla. Was it Greg that made that? Yeah, that was pretty good.

That's a food item. That's totally different. But it came along with it. It was part of the extravaganza, the original extravaganza. The original time.

But yeah, that one, yeah, you couldn't... couldn't I watched it all that's all I have to say so I was like okay what can we watch that's gotta be better than that let's at least go old school slasher hey look here's a thing. I fully enjoyed it and I did enjoy the brief cameo at the very beginning of the condom salesman at the bathroom of the drive I want to spoiler alert it for you I. Think I saw his name listed anyway so spoiler alert for you guys but I'm gonna know because I'll have watched it in the very as. I was watching I'm like holy shit Is that Ted Raimi? Yep.

I thought I saw his name in there. I was like, well, he likes to do horror. He'll show up for horror stuff. It's literally like five seconds. Maybe ten.

I don't know. He's selling condoms. That means they can slap him on the poster and nowadays slap him on the box. Starring Ted Raimi. He was at the drive-in.

Apparently he was selling condoms at the drive-in. Yeah, in the bathroom. Like you do. You know. Which might.

Okay, because it's pretty early on, so I'm not going to ruin anything. If you go into the drive-in and you're going to make out. Prepare. No, who gets fully naked at a drive-in? Like, fully ass naked.

I mean, based on other movies that I've seen, a lot of people. I would think that made people around, you'd be a little bit more covert. You'd keep a little bit of clothes on. But you're at least supposed to plan ahead and get a van. And then you just go in the back and do whatever you want.

They were just in a car, not even tinted windows, because this was like, what? Yeah, they didn't... Take place in. 70s. The first opening scene takes place in the 70s.

They didn't have functional tinting. Exactly. That's a 90s thing. So you're in a fairly populous area, and completely buck naked. Because when the murdering takes place, the chick runs from the vehicle...

Ass naked, running, running, running, screaming. Now I am sold on this movie. Dude. So, aside from it's not cranberry sauce, it was. Let me ask you this, because we were just going over this.

Where did you see it? In our living room? But, I mean. On Tubi. Were you watching it?

Okay, you watched the Tubi one and it had nakedness? All right. Because there's supposedly a cut out there where they cut out almost all the violence... And all the nudity. Yeah, that was the made for.

Like, that's what a horror movie is. It was made for a cable TV version. Yeah, yeah. Because they gave it a different name and everything. But there are at least three different lengths of various cuts out there floating around.

So I'm like, we'll probably all just go with Tubi because it's accessible. So as long as it's got blood and nudity, that's all we're looking for. Happy Thanksgiving. And then for this past Friday night extravaganza boyfriend shows. Uh.

He chose it. You don't also expect him to remember it. Come on, man. Hold on, dude. I've been hit in the head a lot.

You know the drill. Slumber Party Massacre. Yeah, Slumber Party Massacre. Nice. Tie into earlier today.

But before we get to that, okay, what's your wrap up on Slumber Party Massacre? Boobies. All right, well, sold and sold. Lots of damn boobies. It is a slumber party, and they're old slumber party people.

This ain't like six-year-olds, so it's all right if they get naked. It's fine. There's a lot of nudity with open windows. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, this is how things used to work in the old-timey world. Well, you know. Specifically movie old-timey world. In the movies, yeah, but I don't remember boobies being all over the place when I was a kid. No, no.

I was looking in those windows, but I did not see any. And that bitch knew how to make some Kool-Aid. Because the girl who was invited to the party but didn't go because she heard everybody talking bad about her in the locker room because apparently she's just too pretty. I hate when that happens. She starts making them Kool-Aid and I'm like, yeah, bitch, just pour that sugar in there.

Yeah, it was... Because usually when you watch a slasher movie, you don't know who the killer is until the movie's almost over. I feel like that came later. Because I watch a lot of weird 70s stuff and I'm like, oh, they're just showing us. They're just telling us.

Well, that's kind of what they did with this. I mean, you see the killer like almost immediately. But you have no idea who, does he have a name? I don't think he does. You don't know why he's doing it.

He's just doing it. But he looks like. I mean, they do make an announcement on the radio that it escaped. It's like on the radio or the TV that somebody escaped out of prison or an insane asylum. Yeah, but I'm not sure if it's the same guy.

Well, who out how other many people are going around killing people all over the place? It's kind of an either or situation for that era, though, because I feel like there were a lot that I remember even into the 80s that like before you got to the big name slashers, like there were all these other ones that were like, and here we're going to watch these people that we know slash people. Yeah. So we you from the get go, you're watching the character that you've started with start killing people. He didn't seem very intimidating or scary.

He was wearing double denim. Yeah. He just seemed kind of just weird. And how did you feel about his weapon of choice? You bitched about that the whole goddamn time.

It was not a cordless drill. They had just taken a regular drill and, well, I mean, a larger drill with an auger bit and cut the cord off of it. And you ran around with that the entire time. That makes it cordless. Yeah, yeah.

That's how it works. Yeah. No, not at that time. Was there no rechargeable batteries for one of those at that time? Even if there was, you took no time to charge it at any point.

Yeah, you know, I don't remember... I don't remember us ever having any rechargeable tools at that time that was that big. It would have drained it in like two minutes. Yeah, rechargeable tools back then, they didn't last very long. I mean, I'm sure there probably were some in the 80s, but I really, I mean, it would have.

Had to been the late 80s. This is why, once again, I opt for Murder Party. Did you watch Murder Party? No. Holy shit.

You totally need to watch it this Halloween. Except we already passed it. But for this coming. next Halloween. Go back in time and watch it. Yeah, it is so freaking awesome.

And there's a very specific power tool thing that goes on that's like, oh, well, see, there you go. This is how things work. Yeah. But it's funny because at one point, one of the girls picks up a circular saw and That's plugged into the wall and she runs after him. And then the cord gets yanked out of the wall and it stops.

It pulls her ass down the stairs. It pulls her ass down the stairs. They understood how it worked. They understood that. They just sort of pick and choose.

I'm supposed to believe that this guy running around with a... And the drill bit apparently is like razor sharp because he can take it and not only drill through people, but apparently just hitting them with it just splits them in half. You could really get that drill to, like, screw into the shelf the other day. Yeah, I know. It's a magic drill bit plus two bonus hit points.

Yeah, did he decapitate somebody with that? I can't remember. I don't know if he did it with that, but he might have. Maybe he took some time in the garage. Yeah, I don't remember.

Modified it. Souped it up a little bit. The one guy that was supposed to be, like, the good-looking football guy. Oh, my God, he was so hideous. He looked like a grown-up version of that one kid from Trick or Treat.

Yep. Like the one who ate all the candy. Oh, yeah. Imagine him as like a jock 30-year-old because there's no way that guy was not. So we're halfway there in Bad Santa.

Yeah. I never watched that. But he's supposed to be the hot guy. Yeah, the guy that like the hot bitchy girl was like hooking up with. That was the guy who lost his head.

But we didn't see it happen. So we don't know. Maybe he used other tools that were in the garage when we weren't there. Yeah, maybe. And the weird neighbor that was using a hatchet to kill people.

Fucking snails. Was it a hatchet or was it a. The meat cleaver, sorry. Well, that's just going to slime up your meat cleaver. Yeah, you're going to use the meat cleaver.

He didn't want them getting in his veggies. Geez. Yeah. I guess. Isn't there a better way to keep snails from getting in your vegetables than prowling around at night slashing at them with a goddamn meat cleaver?

Like a fucking weirdo. They're all lined with salt. Might also raise a demon or something, but you'll at least keep the slugs away. Dude, there was just so much going on in this. And of course there was a shower scene, and there were so many shots of just like, look, here's an ass for a good 10, 20 seconds.

Enjoy yourself. They know what they're doing. And then, yeah, there were so many, but Brink Stevens had a brief appearance in it. Oh, there you go. Previous guest, Brink Stevens.

She was gorgeous. She was very cool. She was the one that got killed in the bathroom. Shower. Oh.

Well, I guess she... Yeah, was she still in the shower at that point? I don't remember. She was hiding in the shower closet. Under a desk?

Yeah. As one does. You know, where you keep the desk in your shower closet. We'll probably watch the sequel later, because I'm pretty excited about that one. I saw the poster, and it looks feckin' amazing.

Yeah. They always have to up it just a little bit. Yeah. Not the same person. Different person.

Oh, yeah. That was also the era when they would just hand off and... take a series and entirely new people will be like, and we're going to make the sequel. And this guy's inspired by the killer. If you bought the rights to it, I guess you are going to make the sequel, aren't you? Because I think originally we were going to try to watch Maximum Overdrive.

Another classic. I couldn't find it anywhere for free and I wasn't. Going to I guess I could have looked forward to the bookstore. I do not remember seeing it. I was going through most of the old movies.

I haven't seen Maximum Overdrive since the 80s. Yeah, it has been a long time. It's been a really long time. I don't remember anything about it aside from the cover. The one with the semi?

Yeah. I remember the big green goblin head and Who Made Who. The oh so subtle plug of like a giant Is it a van that's got the ACDC logo on the side? It is just billboard driving through your movie of like, oh yeah, don't forget to buy the. Soundtrack, kids.

I don't know if I ever saw it. If I did, I was young enough that I don't remember any of it. Well, it's going to be one of your favorite movies, I'm sure. Will it now? What more do you want?

You got an Estevez. Do you not like Estevez? Not particularly. I mean, it's not Charlie Sheen. You got that going for you.

Yeah. He's just weird looking. Emilio? Yeah. He's not weird looking.

He's Emilio. Yeah. He does look just like Emilio. He's Estevez. Emilio Estevez.

And he cheated on Demi Moore. I didn't even know he was going out with Demi Moore. I remember that. That was a. Long damn time.

But I'm pretty sure I heard that he cheated on her. And I'm like, dude, no. It was like mid-80s. You were too weird looking to be cheating on hot chicks. Yeah, it was kind of weird.

Who cheats on Demi Moore? Emilio Estevez. Apparently. Yeah. That's weird.

Maybe Demi Moore is just really annoying. Maybe she nags him too much. Is that what it was? I don't know. Demi, if you'd like to come on and give your side of the story, please get a hold of us.

I mean, Emilio's probably got nothing else to do. Well, but he's not doing anything anymore. He wants to be a director and doesn't want to act, except when they make the duck movies and turn them into a series. Because for some reason, he came out of semi-retirement to be in the hockey ducks mighty ducks yeah they made a series the hockey ducks they made a series of hockey ducks and he came out of retirement to be in it their. Ice ball game he's playing with them ducks i don't really care about them sports i don't know if you noticed the sports ball got this stick basketball that's a classic no.

What was the one with the dog Air Bud. Or Air Bud Golden Receiver. The fact that you both immediately got it right. There's about 17. I won't keep giving you bad dog.

Puns as the subtitle. Oh, man. Golden Receiver. Just saying. No.

Yeah, I would highly... If you have not yet seen Slumber Party Massacre, first of all, the fuck are you... What's wrong with you? Full endorsement. This is probably one of those movies.

That would have definitely been like a, like one, one of my friends, we had found this tape that he had taped. Was it in the woods? No, no, it was actually, it was behind his entertainment center. We were like, what's on this? And apparently it was one of those where he had just stayed up late at night and like just recorded all the booby parts from all the horror movies.

That's half this movie. Which is pretty much half this movie. So this would have been a movie. I mean, Any teenage boy would be proud to know that man. Back before you could get porn on the internet.

That's what I'm saying. Kids today don't understand. Like, you got the internet. It's a world of difference. Yeah, you weren't looking at fuzz.

You weren't going to the library to check out National Geographic. It was a different world, kids. I don't think you understand. Unless you're an old person. But by then, you've probably already seen Slumber Party Massacre or something.

Ah, so you said there was something else you'd watch? I watched a TV show, a series. It was probably one of the most disappointing experiences that I've had in a long time. Because aside from like R.L. Stine and Fear Street, Christopher Pike was like one of the major fucking things that I enjoyed as a, you know, kid slash teenager.

I still. Christopher Pike is your jam. It is. It's right there. I am here for it.

I love Christopher Pike. And when you take Christopher Pike, who I have a deep love and appreciation for, and you take fucking Michael Flanagan, and you mix these two things together, that should be glorious. He's the Riverdance guy, right? Yeah, exactly. It's Michael Flatley.

It's sad that I actually did remember. I mean, Flanagan, you know, Oculus was fucking amazing. The Haunting of Hill House, fucking amazing. The Haunting of Bly Manor. Fucking amazing.

Yeah, yeah. The Midnight Club. Oh my god, bullshit. Because, okay, have you heard anything about The Midnight Club? No, I think I may have seen that it was out there, but once again, there's way too many shows and I can't even put a dent in them.

Okay, first of all, the book was kind of, the book was at least somewhat depressing, but it wasn't that bad. It was a bunch of, it's got a bunch of kids in a hospice, which first of all, not going to be a good time to begin with. Yeah. But they all get together at midnight and they tell stories. Some of them are like kind of uplifting stories.

Some of them are just creepy stories. You know, they just, they tell stories. Oh my God. Because see, when I was like, oh, that's going to be the greatest thing ever. I love these things.

There's no way this can possibly go wrong. Oh, you're setting yourself up for disappointment there. Dude. I don't ever set the bar that high. Dude or dudes.

It was, when you take an entire, because Christopher Pike, which is, I love him. He could write a convoluted, complicated, what-the-fuck story like nobody else. And when you try to cram all of that into maybe a 20-30 minute segment? Why? Why are you doing this to me?

Because you can't explain everything that he put forth in this entire book. Because it was like, each episode's an hour long. And at least half of it's devoted to fucking depressing-ass kids dying in a hospice. Does sound fun. Yeah, it is like every there and it's just one mood from the entire beginning to end there's no like high point it is just oh we're all dying okay we're.

At the end of the show yeah you're not selling me on this uh yeah. I don't yeah i don't intend to i mean and some of the adaptations were better than others because but Because there's one story, The Haunted Heart, which they took at least three episodes to try to flesh it out. So at least that one, I felt like it was at least okay. They left out the Nazis, but sometimes you got to leave the Nazis out. If you're killing Nazis, you can always put them in stuff.

People love watching Nazis die. Because the book was this whole thing about there was this evil spirit. That's why the Nazis were so bad. And it's just a thing. And then they did Road to Nowhere.

Which is one of my favorite Christopher Pike books. And they turned it into absolute bullshit. Nice. That's what you were looking for. It is an entire book dealing with life and death and the good and evil and suicide.

There were several in there that had suicide warnings. And it even had, which I do enjoy, a good, is it Henry Thomas? Thomas Henry. Fucking Elliot was in it. Yeah, Henry Thomas.

Yeah, Henry Thomas. Which was too goddamn old to be playing the character in the role. But he's famous. We got Henry Thomas. I know.

It was just Flanagan. He could probably get a whole bunch of people who were at least in the same age range. Oh, it was just awful. I mean, out of the, was it ten episodes? How many did I end up on my phone during?

Oh, I don't know. I was on my phone during most of it. When you didn't completely just leave the house. Oh, yeah. The review is a show to look at your phone by.

If you want a good background sound that makes you depressed, here you go, because that's all you're going to get. Although it does have the Guinness World Record for the amount of jump scares in an episode of TV. The very first episode where it just literally devolves into bullshit jump scares, which they even call out in the show. Remember, she just, ah, ah, ah. You remember the guys walking on the street.

Yeah. You were already gone by the first episode. I was already gone by the first episode. I was already like, I don't fucking care. So it just gets a big old round of meh for me, you know?

I was... I mean, the cast was okay. The house looked beautiful, but from what I've heard, the house wasn't even, like, there. Like, the entire outside of the house? Yeah.

Like. CG'd it or matte painted it? CG. No, CG. See, matte paintings I can get on board with.

CG. But you can't tell. I was going to say, if it's done now, you can probably make it where you can't tell. I mean, the house is beautiful. Inside, creepy.

But then they just, they go way too into stuff that's not fucking important. Or, they never got into why the creepy dead people, like the creepy old guy and the creepy old woman are there. Yeah, yeah, they didn't go into that, did they? No. Saving it for the next season that they're not.

Going to get. Well, they're eating all the years that people don't have left. What? Not in the book. And they had this whole subplot about well, all these years ago in the 60s there was this one girl who came to this hospice and she somehow managed to live.

Also not in the book. You're just trying to make yourself a little bit more interesting than you are and you're still failing horribly. So, spoiler alert, it's not great. Not sold me at all. I would rather watch all the Fear Street.

I would rather watch those again. Because those were at least fun. Until you get to 3. And then the first half of 3 is a snooze. But the wrap up is tolerable.

I would rather watch the third part of 3. Or the third part of the series. Because I loved the Fear Street. I did. Except for the third one.

Until you get to the mall again. Yeah, yeah. This one did not have a mall to save it. It's also supposed to be set in the 90s, but yet very felt un-90s. Aside from them constantly throwing 90s songs at you.

Well, again, we had that on Peter Street. But at least they did it possibly overly. They did it on top of each other 90s songs. Oh, this started off that way. It started off and it's just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

But then they were again doing songs that weren't yet released. slobby you know like the one spoiler alert one of them in the hospice dies so at the funeral they're singing time of your life by green day and i'm pretty sure it was not yet out in whatever year this was placed maybe i'm wrong you're gonna did you look at it no but i saw somebody else bitch about it online oh yeah I think this was supposed to take place in like 94, 95? What time? Or what year did? No, that is kind of about that time. Is it?

Yeah. Released in 1997. So, yeah. Not at all of it. I also put, was it Flagpole Siddha?

What year did Flagpole Siddha come out? Probably around the same time. When did that Katie Holmes movie come out? Because it's in there. That was a good movie.

I like that movie. Mostly Katie Holmes. Galactic Pulse said it came out in 97. There you go. Way off.

I was pretty sure it came out in the late 90s. So, yeah. Not in there. Or not in that time frame. Seems like somebody, I mean, how long did it take you to Google that?

Seems like somebody working on a movie that, even if it's not multi-million dollars or TV series, but either way, all it takes is one flunky working on a crew to be like, hey, I can see when this song came out. Probably what it was was. This song will really fit right here. Yeah, this song will really fit right here. Well, it didn't come out.

Well, it was the 90s. It'll be okay. Nobody will remember. Aren't there any nerds on your crew that are just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, I gotta call you out on that. This is what I do.

No, because they're probably counting on a lot of kids watching or teenagers or whatever. Yeah, which then they don't know any better. They don't know any better because it's 90s. They're like, it's 90s, right? It's on that 90s channel on my SiriusXM.

Same thing with a lot of shows where they do 80s stuff. They'll have certain 80s songs. Same way. I like that I have teenagers listening to SiriusXM. Not retired people, which is who actually keeps them in business.

People who rent cars and retire people. What are the kids listening to? They're just streaming it off of some site. I was going to say my kid listens to Spotify, but then I listen to Spotify, but then she's not really a kid anymore. I'll just get stuff off of YouTube because it doesn't cost anything.

And actually they have a better mixed up lineup than freaking Spotify. Spotify runs out of songs. In an hour. And I'm like, look, I got all day to listen to stuff. So YouTube, you don't even hear a repeat unless it's like a live version or something like, but as far as tracks, like it's a way better version of streaming music at this point.

But yeah, just one big disappointment after another. I was just, by the time I was done, I was just kind of like hate watching it. I was just like, I can see you doing I'm like, no, I'm going. To watch it because you have like two weeks to help, you know, get more Meg. Because that's what I've been hearing.

When something comes out on a streaming service, if you don't watch it within two weeks, there's a good chance it's going to get canceled. Probably. If you love something and you want to watch it, even if you don't watch it all at once, just like turn it on and go to bed. Make sure that shit gets watched in some form or fashion within two weeks or you're not helping. Which I don't give a shit.

At this point, yeah, I don't. But I mean, I don't know. They would have just fleshed out the actual stories instead of just like, oh no, we're going to make it this way. No, don't do it that way. It didn't work.

So I'm hoping that if they get a chance to make more, then maybe it'll try to redeem itself. But I'm... Or at least if this is a somewhat successful venture, maybe they will make some that are good. We'll see. I mean, at this point, it's all kind of got a following.

Whether it's good or not, but at least it's got enough following that maybe they'll keep throwing money at the idea. So, hopefully so. I don't know. Big disappointment. Well, I watched one thing just recently to kind of get into the mood for our Scarefest activities.

And I hadn't seen it in a very long time. Speaking of the 90s, I watched Wes Craven's New Nightmare. So, how long has it been since you've seen New Nightmare? Oh, go back to The Midnight Club. That was the one highlight of the show for me, was that Heather Langenkamp runs the hospice.

Well, there you go. That is a direct tie-in, because she is the star of this movie. But. It's been years. It's been years since I've seen it.

Yeah, I had not seen it. I don't remember. Yeah, it's like I remember watching it when it first came out, and then I... knew of it and remembered it finally more or less but i could not tell you the last time i sat down and watched it and it's amazing just how like ahead of the curve it was it is 1994 i looked up to make sure because i was like i know it was way before every movie became a reboot in its own franchise. Also the same setting a self-aware. Of its own franchise of the thing that they're doing set in the real world where the movies existed in this thing.

Like, it is everything that's become the last 10 to 12 years of, like, definitely everything post-Scream, but, like, everything definitely 2000s era just became super self-aware. And this, for 1994, was. Way ahead of that curve and was already doing a pretty well-developed version of the same idea. So, points to Wes Craven, once again, for being ahead of where the rest of everybody was going to end up 20 years later. And I forgot, John Saxon is a good amount of screen time.

I forgot. I mean, I know he's in the first one, but I forgot they worked him back in as much as they did. But he becomes kind of a semi-main character before it's over with. As much as anybody is. It's mostly Heather and then that kid from Pet Sematary.

Who just basically walks around and creepily sings the Freddy song to himself and says never sleep again. He just sort of talks to himself for about half the movie at least. Yeah, I don't remember it. It's been way too many years. He's a creepy kid, but Those kids are creepy.

They play that one a lot. But the whole thing is Heather trying to save this kid. Yeah, it's pretty damn entertaining. I was very impressed with just how ahead of everything that one was. And still has some good...

It changes up the Freddy stuff. It changes his glove. It changes sort of his... Even his face looks slightly different. It's a very different variation on all this stuff.

But yep, that was... That was my viewing as of recent to get geared up. I mean, we were just standing very close to Robert Englund a little while ago, so got that going for us. We waited in line briefly to see Lance Henriksen, but he was not there at the table, so I gave up. He had other stuff to do.

Obviously. I was just like, because I'm like, first of all, I mean, I love, I love Scarefest. I don't want to say anything bad about Scarefest. What I'm going to say is not specifically about Scarefest in general. I don't like people.

Well, it's probably even harder for all of us coming out of the last two years of just not even doing anything. Not only not being around tons and tons of people, but most people didn't leave the house for a good year and a half. So it's weird just getting out among people, let alone a whole lot of people and for a very focused thing. So, yeah. It's very strange.

I mean, there was a lot... Because that was one of my favorite things about Scarefest, was that you could go to it, and generally it wouldn't be that crowded. You could, like, you know, not worry about bumping into somebody or inadvertently smelling somebody who hasn't left the house in the past year and a half. But this was just, I mean, and good for them. I mean, there was just a lot, a lot of people.

I think that was with conventions in general, though, because the more I remember it, back in the day when we started doing the conventions... They never seemed like they had that many people. And Horror Hound was always a clusterfuck. Yeah, but... Not counting Chicago, because that was nothing but people.

Yeah, jeez. But all the other offshoot ones, yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of it had to do with where it was and what city it was in. But for the most part, they still weren't as packed as they are now. It just seems like now everybody's gotten, like, People that wouldn't have been on board with the whole thing.

And, you know, with anything else, it draws new fans. And that's cool. There's no problem with it. But I feel in the beginning days, it was still very much the older kind of VHS crowd of old horror fans. And then now it's gotten more because then we had, like, remember when The Walking Dead became big.

Oh, yeah. Everybody's mom came to horror conventions then. I mean, it was like, oh, I. Want to see that Daryl. He's so hot.

He's so greasy. Yeah, it went on from there. It got more and more popular. People started bringing more of their kids because in the beginning, remember, you didn't really see people bringing their whole family. Yeah.

And now it's like a whole family deal. Which is good. I like that. But yeah, it's definitely a change from when we started. Yeah, but that's what I think.

I think there are more people that are into it nowadays, which is what's causing the huge crowds. I've referenced that in the past too. I was like, I think even just talking to, to like people like actors and stuff, I'm like their career hits that turning point of like before when it was just like the handful of hardcore dorks. And then once the convention scene became a scene, yeah, everything just went up a notch, you know, it's like, and then that is just like domino effect since then. We'll remember some of the celebrities, uh, And how easy it was to get their autographs and to be at the table.

I mean, for goodness sakes, Danny Trejo. I mean, the first time we saw Danny Trejo, there was not really a line in front of his table. I think that's changed across the board. For any of those bigger names, yeah, they all... For all of them. plan to go ahead and wait for a while because everybody that's a recognizable name, they have got a line.

And that wasn't always the case, but again, I know they love that. So I can't, I can't knock it. It's what keeps them in. I'm not knocking it at all. It's great for them, but I'm just saying, remember at that one point, I'm thinking that that has a lot to do with, you know, the popularity of it is it wasn't as popular.

And well, It was in that small group. It was a cult thing, and only the cult showed up. Yeah, but now that it's gotten, like I said, with The Walking Dead and a lot of the other things, Face Off. Is it Face Off? The makeup show?

The makeup show. That's brought new people into horror because they're like, oh, wow, this. Is a cool show. Also a big thing, accessibility. Accessibility like you go back to the old.

Days the vhs hardcore geeks like that's how they were still watching half that stuff because that's the only way. It was available and you're having to order it through mail order there is. As we said earlier so much weird stuff on tubi and every other free channel that's just sitting on your roku now just waiting for you to go all right let's try this and then sometimes they really like them so yeah it's i think it's just become easier for people to become casual fans and now even casual fans show up to a horror. Convention yeah Yeah, you know, you see, just, you know, there were people that I saw there that you were like, normally looking at them, they were not people that you would think of that would go to a horror convention.

Like somebody's grandparents? Yeah, people's grandparents, you know, stuff like that. Oh, I do like the horror. The family of Chuckies we saw earlier. Yeah.

There was a mom Chucky and a kid Chucky and a whatever, what's her name? Tiffany. Tiffany. And then, what was the other one? Oh, she was something totally different.

I think she was throwing off the whole deal. She was Freddy, actually. Yeah. Because he was there. But, yeah, she was not.

One of these things is not like the other, is what I'm saying. But, yeah, it was the whole family just hanging out, taking pictures on the Stranger Things couch. There's another one that, like, that was sci-fi more when it started, but definitely this new season was full-on horror. And, yeah, so think how many people watched Stranger Things when that new season hit. Like, everybody.

I did love the new season. It was so much fun. Except for the... I could do without the entire Russia. Yeah.

I mean, that was definitely... Was it Russia? It's Russia. That was the low point. Because it just...

They weren't really accomplishing that much. And it just kept going. Yeah. It kept going on. And their annoying friend gets on my nerves.

Who's the lawyer guy or whatever his name is that went with Winona? He's just kind of obnoxious. I can't remember his name. Yeah. I mean, he comes in handy before the thing's over because he is a master of Kung Fu.

It's Obviously, to look at him, you would assume that. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I don't know. That was definitely the low point. But everything else was awesome.

Eddie. Eddie. Eddie's super cool. We all know. I loved Eddie.

He's my favorite part. Eddie was great. And the fact that he could take and become this character in a show that's already so established and become so well-liked. Yeah. Kind of steal the spotlight from these people that have spent years now becoming the big stars that they are because of that show.

And he just kind of walks in and he's like, hey, I'm Eddie. This is my show now. I'm taking over this show. You can try to kill me off, but people are still going to love me. And I did.

I do. Most definitely. Still waiting for him to come to a convention, but good God, can you imagine how long that line's going to be? Well, yeah, just the amount of Hellfire Club shirts we saw today. That is true.

That's what we should have been counting was Hellfire Club shirts. I lost track of how many Sams we saw. Yeah. It was, you know, Halloween tie-in. So you got a lot of Sams and What was the other one you kept seeing?

I saw several Beetlejuices. Yeah. I think that's become a staple now. I think it really... He is a universal horror classic monster now.

I've seen more at this convention than I think I've ever seen. Once again, accessibility. I went to the Spirit Store the other day, and there's an entire section of just Beetlejuice. Every version of the costume for both boy and girl, and then all kinds of toys and stuff. Is there a slutty Beetlejuice?

Yeah. Yeah. There's just so much stuff that's like. Please, you have to ask if there's a slutty version of anything. Duh.

Obviously. Obviously. I was impressed to see the cartoon Lydia today. See, I didn't see the cartoon Lydia. Yeah, I was happy to see that.

I only saw the movie Lydia. You saw several movie Lydia's. Yeah, definitely. Well, I like the movie Lydia that was with the Dietz. Or, not Dietz.

That were with the Maitland's. Yeah, I did see a couple of them. Because I saw a couple of red dress Lydia's. Yeah. And I saw the black dress.

I didn't see black dress. She was hanging out with a Beetlejuice. Oh, yeah, that's right. They were at a booth. I forgot about that.

I didn't realize that. I was assuming she was a Lydia. I thought that was just her normal. I mean, there it probably could be. It could just be her going to the grocery.

So who knows? But... yeah, I know among certain fans that the cartoon is not beloved or people that worked on it that we won't go into right now. But yeah, I always loved the show. And like most people I knew that grew up at that time loved the Beetlejuice cartoon. So it's good to see it having a resurgence because that girl was what, maybe 20?

So obviously she rediscovered it much later because she was not old enough to remember it. I know that much. To bring it back around, we did have a tie-in that we saw at the convention because you were pretty excited. Yeah. Because there was a person dressed, it was a, I guess a guy and his girlfriend.

He was dressed up like the main killer from Slumber Party Massacre. And she was dressed as the main killer from Slumber Party Massacre 2. That is rowdy. Nice. You have to, you know, you have to give points for going a little obscure and then for stumping all of the regular people that are now there that are just like, what are they supposed to be?

Yeah. Why is he carrying a big drill? Why is she carrying a guitar with a drill bit on the end of it? They're just rock stars. You know, those weird rock stars.

Well, on that note, I'd say that about wraps up our activities here in Lexington for today. But we do want to say thank you to Scarefest for letting us come and be part of the fun. If you're interested in joining in next time, go to scarefestweekend.com and see what they've got in the works and start planning your trip now. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.

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