18: End of a Gun

Well there, I'm Chris dash You and I'm Trevor Grumble, and we're the host of On Seagal, a podcast where we talk about only Stephen Seagal movies all the time. Not all the time, but once a month. So if you're here on this episode, you're going to be listening to us talk about a little film that you probably have never heard of until today. Came out in twenty sixteen, along with one, two, three other Stephen Seagal films, which is, as you will come to find out if you listen to our show, not as surprising as it may sound that Stephen Seagal releases multiple films a year, given how much he's in them. And actually, I'm gonna walk that comment back.

Steven Sagal has one, two, three, four, five, six seven movies that came out in twenty sixteen. This is one of them. That movie is end of a good in my life. Nothing ever happens for the reasons you might think. When we come back, that's trouble right there.

Trouble always comes in a small black dress, always long night. Huh. My friend the tenant said she used to be a caught back in the States. Money had a lot of money stashed away. Could you get it for me?

What are you talking about? Cash? They're bad people. Technically it's not stealing, it's kind of stealing. I can make this happen.

You don't have a plan, dear, Yeah, my plans to go get the money. Get down. We're rich, Yeah, get my money one way or another. Guess, sir. I'm looking for a man and a woman.

He looks like a cup she looks like a stripper. I want the money, all right, so now please help me. They're gonna kill me. I got your back. You think your should?

Yeah? Could they have walked away with the money. I'm not all about money. You've got balls, Thank you for noticing that. So that film is directed by Keoni Waxman, who, yes, we have talked about on this show before twice, I believe.

Yeah. I'm probably will be talking about him more, that's for sure. Oh yeah we will. And it's stars one and only mister Steven Seagal playing again a one named character of Decker. And uh, what is Decker up to?

Well, he's a he's a federal agent and he's hanging out with this woman. I honestly had no idea what was going on in this movie, did you? I was one of the like there were there, there were things happening, And the dude from Cartels was in this movie essentially playing the same character from Cartels, that actor being Florin Persick Junior, who I guess is we should just refer to him as that that one very eastern European actor, evil guy. Yeah, and he's playing the most gen eric of generic villains. Man, I mean he was playing the most generic of generic villains in Cartels.

I think his character in that movie was called l tiburon the Shark. Well, I think it's more of the screenwriter's fault than his fault because they wrote him just like buy the book, checklist, fucking drug cartel villain. First of all, the credits start off like the seventies cop show, right, it's very strange. The whole movie is. The whole movie is tonally very weird, the music that they use.

So this is like this is like a mid mid oughts action movie that was on a red box. Like it's a red box movie, So just take that into account. If you see the cover of the movie, you know what kind of movie you're getting into. And it opens with the least generic of generic music. It makes no sense.

He's like driving around. I believe it's France, sure, but it looks like Romania. Well anyway, it's like Romania where they shot the movie. He gets a phone call. He gets a phone call from those one decker I've been trying to reach you.

I think they're trying to make him like he's this like attractive sex symbol, like wanted, like all the women want him and shit like that. Anyway, he's uh, he's in the city. He sees his woman getting like slapped around by her boyfriend. Um, and of course, what does the boyfriend do when interjects, he tries to fight him. How many hits does he get on Segal?

Zero? What does Seagal do? Segal shoots him in the fucking kills this guy in like broad daylight in the middle of Paris, supposedly in something that really kind of shocked me that they, you know, did they actually had an investigator on that he was actually still there when the cops came. Usually when he kills the guy in a film, they just drives away and nothing said of it. This time, he actually has to, you know, a tone for his actions or whatever.

So they're like, you know, we you know, you need to come down to this United to give your statement. You have to sign this saying blah blah blah blah. So I'm not going to sign that. Oh boy, this is we're in full win spur mode Segal in this Monte No, we're in whisper and he he goes in and out of this like urban accent. I don't know, man, what you're talking about.

Man like, wax, I don't know what you I don't know what you're talking about. Men Like, it's very weird New Orleans street urban like it is what a robot thinks people of the streets talk like. He's like, man, I don't I don't know what you're talking about. Man Like, I don't know what you're talking But it's offensive. It is what it is.

It's borderline. Yeah, it's borderline offense. Yeah, I know. He goes in and out of it, though you know what he's going for, and yeah that's not great. But he goes in and out of the accent through the whole film.

Yeah, but he's not doing the accent. He's whisper talking, which is not intimidating, Like what's weird? Is again Seagal is an intimidating guy. He's a I'm not saying like he's a big guys. He's like a fat guy, which is, you know, obvious the joke everybody uses.

But he's a big dude. Like, he's still an intimidating guy. I don't understand why. Well he carries himself. Yeah, he care in it, except he's whispering.

It's come on, it's he's been he's been doing it this this whole time. But when when he really dials it up, it's it's insufferable. It really really well. So after he speaks the cops, he meets up with the he talks to the girl. The girl tells him that, um, well, the car has been impounded since it's evidence.

Basically, the girl tells him I need to get that car back. There is two million in cash hidden in the trunk. If you help me get the car, I will give you ten percent. And she the way she convinces him pussy yeah, She's like, I'll suck your dick real good. And he's like, I don't know.

And it's like and there's a thankfully very short love scene. Boy, that's part of my contract dude, I gotta share the screen with Steven Seagal's naked body. Hold me closer, leather, daddy, like, leather is in the color of his skin is leather like. Thankfully they don't show much. It's like a brief thing and then it's over and it's it's something.

It just sounds to me like this was a Seagal like I have to have I gotta have a love scene with this woman to show how much of a so much of a man I am, how desirable that I am. It's very desirable. Keoni Waxman said that this is a very different Steven Seagal movie than Killing Salazar, which was Cartel's the movie that we want that we have watched and it's um. He said that Stephen and Suits being chased by cool French bad guys like an elm Elmore Leonards store. Oh that's sade.

You and are a great crime film couple on a double crossing heist. Oh my god, Floren piercing Junior from killing Salagar Salagar Salazar chasing after them. Simple and cool story this time around. You know what a give Keone Waxman credit. He attempts to hype up his own movies.

Is he successful? No, the moment you start the movie, you'll find the answer out because this didn't anger me. It's not like offensively bad. It was just kind of mediocre. It just was like boiler It's like everything I could tell, every twist or everything that was going to happen, is like so predictable twist quote unquote.

So let's talk about the villain. Oh, let's Floren Peersick Junior. Is this the only way the man gets work is to work with Keoni Waxman because he's just kind of He's not a very threatening villain to me. You know what's insane? He shot this movie after he shot Cartels, but this movie came out before that movie.

Do they just shoot these all in like one afternoon? They're just like, we've got a hotel in Romania, all right, we'll do that movie there. We've got what are you doing Saturday? Yeah, the streets of Romania? All right, we'll do the pickups of Stephen out in the world.

His body double will be the rest because oh yeah, by the way, once again, Steven sigal body double through half of the movie. The other half of the movie, he's fucking sitting down at a car. So as we've gone further backwards, we have noticed that this is becoming more apparent but lessened because the newer movies have it really badly. But we're getting to the point in these movies where Seagal is starting to sit down more often than not. And it's just it's so lazy.

I mean, he doesn't He only has what one two fight scenes in the whole film, if you want to call him fight scenes again, it's if Red Litter media is talking about Bruce willis doing it more recently. Steven Seagal created the model through which you could do this for over two decades. He's been doing this, right, Amy, He's been doing this for a long time. He's been making these directive video movies with some dude in Eastern Europe or wherever I was born and I was made. And The Patriot is the first Seagal directive video movie.

And that's like nineteen ninety nine, yeah, nineteen yeah, I believe I remember seeing it, Like I think we brought this up when we did The Understiege with Verne that I remember seeing it in the video store on VHS of all things. Yeah, like he was doing shit in the VHS era. Yeah, that's my point. And so like for them to be like, oh, I'm so surprised Bruce Willis is doing it, Like it's more surprising that it's Bruce Willis. But similarly to Segal, he was a nineties action star who has fallen.

His stock has fallen so hard. I mean, Seagal has fallen pretty hard. Another difference, Yeah, Another difference is is I can see Bruce Willis making a comeback because we know Bruce Willis can't give a good performance. I would contend Steven Seagal can give a good performance too, with the right script and the right director. Well, I mean Underseige, in under Siege, and I mean, yeah, ar is he amazing in those movies?

And we keep bringing it up. I keep bringing it up. He just needs to have a sense of humor about himself. Well yeah, but that's good luck. He needs to be able to laugh.

Well yeah, but he's the same guy that wasn't in the Expendables. He is the guy who said no to the Expendables. Of all thought him no. Segal was like, well, if they asked me, I don't, I don't. I don't work with funny people.

It's like, okay, yeah, but he does the Onion movie. What the fuck? Look, Steven Seagal zidiosyncratic guy, clearly weird guy, guy who knows what he likes and what he doesn't like. So good for him. Look at Machete.

That was a fucking I could argue that was kind of a satire. Yeah, but does he know it's satire? I don't fucking know. That's he probably thought cock Puncher was a real film. I mean when you look at something like this, which is again essentially a made for TV movie, I mean this could have shown on you know those movies that show on sci Fi.

This is the equivalent of that for action movies. There's no action movie channel. I don't remember many like profanities in the film. What profanities? This movie's rated PG.

Essentially does this movie even have a rating? Does it have to have a rating if it's released on if it's released on streaming, And that's a good point to no, it doesn't. He could do whatever the fuck This is the kind of movie that ends up on Pluto TV or two BTV. Like, what's sad about this movie is there is so little going on in this movie that it has run into other movies that we have talked about in plot, like the fact that this movie has Florian Piersick Junior in it as the villain, just like Cartels did. Like I'm not even sure if you played Cartels an End of a Gun together in the same day, if you played him for me and asked me tell me which movie this was in, I'm not sure to be able to tell you.

Let's let's be Let's be this movie in Cartels. It could have could have been the same goddamn character. Yeah, they're indistinguishable from each other. Playing himself he's played He played himself in China Salesman. He himself in this movie.

He played himself in Cartels. He's playing this guy who just can't be bothered to give a shit? Is what? Unless unless you tell me what his character is, I will just assume it's the same fucking character from every other film he's done. A former something that was really good at martial arts, like former Gangster for FBI agent, former DA agent.

I mean shit, Even in Under Siege he's you know, ex Navy seals or whatever, but he's a cook now like Understege. Look, he was having fun with the role. I mean, here's the thing. If you're getting paid most of the film's budget to sit and do nothing, yeah, you really have to enjoy yourself. Well, here's the thing.

He needs a good villain to playoff of. He's giving him more credit than he deserves. I think Steven Seagal may genuinely just be doing this for the money. Well duh no, but like that, but that's it. Like, I don't even know if he cares about the artistic integrity of the pieces or anymore what he's trying to bring to the role.

I don't know. I don't know. He knows that he can put in like less than five percent of a shit and still get his money and they're still consider it good enough because that's just how it works. And he's the bottom. He's the bottom of this curve of people.

He I mean, Bruce Willis is somewhere near the top, but like Steven Seagal is near the bottom of these people. Like, I mean, I'm not saying Stallone and Swartzinger are the best actors, but even you know, wreck to DVD movies, Yeah, but they actually give a performance. Did you see that Schwartzenager movie with Jackie Chan where he's in it for like five minutes. What are you talking about around the world in the eighty days? No, the man in the Iron Mask that came out like two years ago.

No, I didn't. Right, Yeah, there's my point, Like, I'm not sure. I'm not sure actors we like aren't above it. It's just this is just so. Yeah.

But no, what I'm saying is that Schwartzenager actually gives a little effort. He was he was in Terminator Dark Faith though. Okay, now you just punch low, dude, punch low, But I'm also punching true. Dude. I saw that fucking thing in the theater and I was pissed when they shot John Connor.

Look, Steven Seagal is as perfected the art of making red box movie and there must be people watching them because there are people continuing to make them. They won't make them unless you rent them, unless you unless somebody's laundering money. Well, let's not start a conspiracy theory here. I mean, hey, look, when you when you get to the point with these movies where you cannot tell them apart, there is a problem. And the only thing that I can remember it from Cartels that sets it apart from End of a Gun Is it has George Saint Pierre but still has Florian Piersick Junior as the villain.

When you watch a film, usually you get a different vibe from the film, a different feeling from the film. When I watch these films, I feel the same fucking thing. I get the same fucking vibe. They're the same movie in a lot of ways, Like they look the same. They're probably shot in the same city in Romania, like and look, it's it's it's one thing to try to fool the audience once, but trying to fool us over and over again.

That these movies are taking place in an Eastern European city that's not in like far eastern Europe. This doesn't look like France. Does it even matter to talk about what the film is about, Well, it's the thing, like, what is the movie about. It's about get another character trying to get money and the other people that are after him, right, and it's there's nothing to it. Like Cartel's Cartels had more of a plot.

It was kind of a rip off of a smoke and aces right, yeah, right, it was either they're in the hotel and they're protecting this guy. This movie is just they're coming after Seagal because Seagal's going after money. Okay, Like that's that's that's the entire plot. And then he gets double crossed in the last five minutes and that's where they're like, oh, by the way, that's why this movie is what it's called, because we get like a Steven Seagal narration at the end that's like, but if if life is about the people that you love and the loved ones and the and if you if you don't remember that people matter, then you're gonna find your living a good dude, And the narration was so inconsistent. They're trying to Okay, one of the most guy one of the funniest slides in the film, one of his first narrations is, you know, trouble always comes to me with great legs and a black dress.

I'm like, what do you what do you think you're fucking noir? You? Yeah, what do you? What do you think you're a Mickey Spillane character? Yes, you, yes, he does.

What's wild? You know what's actually wild to me about all of this stuff. The people that write these movies don't even understand how to make these movies fun like this this movie could be terrible, right, but yeah, but at least could be fun. It's not even like this is just a genuinely kind of boring movie. Yeah it's not.

It's not offensively bad. No, it's just kind of we at least have something to talk about. But this movie is just fucking mediocre. It's honestly. What's surprising to me is it what it feels like more than anything else.

It feels like a bunch of other pieces of other movies that they just kind of jammed into this. Are you thought like a Godfrey ho film, Well, it's like, oh, we've got a little Florian Pierscu. Florian Pierscue is here where we're using him for cartels, you want to be in this movie, and we'll just kind of make this movie out of the parts of the other movie. Like I don't know it. Tell me that this movie and End of Gun weren't shot at the same time, and I'll be I can't right.

It feels like they were like, all right, we're done for the day on cartels, or we're doing a week where it's End of Gun and Cartels every other day, Like, tell me that wasn't happening. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and that movie is better. Cartels is a much better movie. And yeah, still not great ultimate, but at least it's entertaining. At least I got some entertainment out of at this one.

I was just like, Yeah, they're plan this is so by the book man. Yeah, it's shockingly boy, there's nothing new, there's nothing, there's nothing surprising about it. We know she's gonna fucking double cross him in the end, right, we know she's like, we're gonna work with the villain to get to him. We know that she's gonna fucking get it in the end, and he's gonna go off with them. When you do a different place, like was it Key West?

He wanted to go right when they showed him in qy West. He went to Key West. And then they showed a shot of him like driving his car with like the most stock looking fucking palm trees in the background, and he's like in this little car and there's like palm trees, and I was like, Oh, this is Key West. Huh. I'm surprised.

It wasn't a sign that he drove by that said welcome to Key Welcome, to Key West. Helly, what the most interesting person of the film was the guy he was working with that got him to the tickets to Key West. Oh, I thought he was at least somewhat interesting. We got that actor's got a great name, Ovividu Nicolesque. That's a that's a sexy name right there.

He's worked in a lot of well, he's worked on some Steven Seagal movies and a lot of other films with Eastern European names, which I will not attempt to pronounce. But given his name is ovid you no, no Nuki Lescu, I can assume you probably guess where he's from. What about Alexander and Wynn who's playing the character Peewee an Asian man wearing him wearing a cowboy hat, which for no other purpose, then to think it's quirky to have a character wearing a cowboy hat, that's what's the fucking heat? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's really it's really weird.

It reminds me of that scene in UHF where um, one of the guys that works at the station that RJ RJ owns is wearing a cowboy hat with like a raccoon tail. At the back and um RJ tells him take that ridiculous thing off, and he just takes off his mustache. This movie genuinely went by like that, like I was watching I was watching it and then it was over. Do you know what I mean? I was looking at the time like our twenty six mess.

I'm thinking, yeah, that that tracks. Yeah. It has a great line though. Steven the guy goes, you've got balls, and Stephen Sgal goes, thanks for noticing that. My girl here she knows for a fact, like, oh, the gross bro.

I was like, I hope he doesn't say something stupid like yeah, they were they were balls keeping your girlfriend last night, right, But he pretty much did. But he pretty much does. I'm like, he's not gonna say it, is he and he says something to that effect, of course. But I would expect Stegal to day when he says you got you got big balls, I expect him to saying, yeah, they were keeping your girlfriend last night. I was expecting to just go, I've got balls, balls, balls, balls balls.

Wouldn't he make just the most fucking boring Duke Nukeam is any kind of Duke Nukeam esque in the person that he is, yeah, but he's not his Duke nukeamb without the charisma. Yeah. Basically he's like when he's just walking and not pointing at somebody. He always holds a gun the same way like this. He always holds himself like that, and everything his hands in front of him.

Yeah, and the guns like hidden. But I think I think he thinks he's he's holding himself very stoically like yeah, oh yeah. He thinks he looks he thinks he looks so fucking cool. He doesn't. He looks like an idiot, but he thinks he looks cool.

He thinks he looks really cool, which is why he talks really low, which is why he holds his hand that way, and which is why this movie is in the Walmart dollar because that is where you would find this movie. I can't even say that I hate this movie because it's not really there's not really anything to hate. What is there to hate? It's it's such a non movie. It is by the books, by paint by numbers, mediocre, what you expect from a directive video.

Shit, it is nothing like like um he Keoni was expecting, like Elmore Leonard, for fuck's sake, that you know what that strikes me up. That's like that Tommy Wise quote where it's like with the power of Tennessee Williams like uh rd, dude, and it's like, I'm like Elmore Leonard, dude, get shorty. This is not yeah any like this is this is get shitty is what this is? Oh there's a oh, now you're talking about like Roger Ebert quotes, now you're now, you're you're I gotta give one. I mean, come on, all right, these these movies are so unfun that this is not even fun.

Like this movie is yeah, goddamn boring. And here's my Joel Siegel esque review of the film, End of a Gun. You'd have to put me at the end of a gun and take you don't watch this again. Yeah, this movie is the first movie I can say without a doubt that like, even even though I had my issue with China Salesman, which you did, which is the fact, oh my god, three hours long, at least he gave a shit to talk about. Yeah, like this one's giving us nothing.

Yeah, this movie is really this this movie. You can skip this movie. This movie does not deserve to exist. And the fact that it knows it's bad. It's just it's just boring.

It's just it's just what didn't they say in cartels that they needed to say in this movie, because it feels like this movie. In cartels exist at the same time, but one of them doesn't need to exist. This one is the one we're scheduled for, were for someone so much days of shooting, Oh we finished early? Do you guys just want to make another one? That's what it feels like like.

It's such an At times, there doesn't even feel like there is a script. It feels like the screamwater has just pounded this out within a day or so. Yeah, this is so fucking just or just like I said, cobbled together disparate parts of other scripts. This is stitch work, man, This is pure stitch work. It's not good of better films, of more original films, and it's not even trying.

And those those that you know what, in a way that's kind of the worst kind of film is that it doesn't even try. Yeah, no, it's it's it. Does you have all of this money to film a movie? You have Steven Seagal, and this is the best that you can do, and you rest on your laurels thinking that this is good or that this is enough. It's not.

And it's unfortunate because just because it's and this is the thing, just because it's direct to video or direct to streaming doesn't mean it needs to be bad. We've seen plenty of direct to streaming stuff now, which is the equivalent of direct to video in this day and age, that are getting nomina Oscars. There, you're nominated for Oscars and winning and all kinds of stuff, and you're gonna tell me that you can't be bothered to make something entertaining with Stevenson. This is what I will say about the pandemic. It's changed the game.

It's changed the game. Streaming changed the game. Though Streaming made stuff like this seems irrelevant, because why are you making stuff this bad when other people can make stuff much better with a lesser budget. Dude, there are films nominated for Oscars this year that we're streaming. Yeah, no Best Picture Oscars, Huh, I know, I know, that's my point.

Like, and then you have stuff like this where it's like, what, I guess there is somebody out there who wants and likes end of a Gun, but I can't believe anybody would sit down watch this movie and say, yeah, this was this was a good movie. This is really bad, Like this is this is the movie we were worried about watching. I think I can speak for both of us in that respect, Like this is what we were worried about running into. We were worried about running into the film. That just is cliche to every fucking step, cliche to what people believe these kinds of movies are.

When we say Seagal doesn't try anymore, this is the fucking kind of movie we're talking about. Yeah, like the fucking the stereotype, the case zero. This is what you would point to. Keone, Waxman just kind of massages that in him, doesn't because he lets him do whatever he fucking wants. He's like, I have Segal, what am I going to do?

Argue with him? You know, he lets him get away with it. Then you lose your golden Then you lose your golden goose. And KEIOI watchman like Seagal's the only reason I'm getting a movie made. That That is the reality here is these movies don't get made without someone like Seagal or Bruce Willis or whoever whoever they are in the time that they're making movies like these, the people that are the soul star of the movie is the only reason these movies are getting made.

So in the nineties it was Armanda Sante and Jeff you know, Jeff Fahey. Yeah, and now it's Seagal and Bruce Willis. But look there, movies like this have been made forever. They were being made in the seventies and eighties and nineties. But when you see someone who is making big movies beforehand making stuff like this, it's unfortunate.

I mean, even Nick Cage has made stuff like this. I mean, nobody's above it. But the thing with the Sante and Fahey is that some of their stuff is actually really good. They actually tried. We haven't watched all these yet, we haven't watched all these.

Well with Nick Cage is like he kind of goes back and forth from streaming to two theatricals, does whatever the fuck he wants, And I kind I kind of respect him for that because I kind of like that about him. I've come around on Nick Cage. But Nick Cage does I mean did movies, has done movies just like the stuff sagalls. I mean that left Behind movie. Did you watch that?

Yeah, it's real bad. I watched parts waiting maybe I did see the whole thing in parts and just don't remember. It's real bad. It's it's bad. It's it's bad the same way this movie's bad.

Like it's that same kind of like who's making this, where's the money coming from? Who wanted this? Who is making these movies? And who is watching them? Like a sting?

Are these talk about this or I talk about this? Or left Behind? I'm talking about these kinds of movies? Oh yeah, well, I mean left Behind basically, Um, Christian films make money. Sure, Unfortunately this one didn't.

Left Behind was was kind of a failure at the box office. Do you think these movies make money? Doesnt even stook all films? Yeah, there's got to be someone watching them because they keep making them. Would agree in lions Gate keeps fucking releasing them.

Lions Gate doesn't seem to have a to seem to have a gauge of good or bad because they seem to release anything they kind of do. They release a lot of really weird animate like really weird cgi stuff in the United States too. They can release some of the best horror films or whatever, and that then they can release the biggest pieces of shit. Lions Gate is such a juggling, such a like a cup game trailer for a Pinocchio movie that's being released by lions Gate, and poly Shore is Pinocchio. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, who wants this?

Who lions Gate? Who? Who has been asking for this? They just produce anything, They release anything. I guess lions Gate's wild man, they will, they will just release whatever.

I got none against poly Shore. I like poly Shore, what is this saying about the Steven Seagal film that we're already talking about other shit. I don't know what to tell you. This movie is really bad. It's got nothing, man, it's got nothing.

It gives us nothing. That's what's another. That's another sad thing. It gives us nothing. Well, that's my point.

It's like not even fun to talk about because it's just not a fun movie. It's just no it's not a fun movie. It's it's just fucking boring. It's white noise. You would be better off watching literally anything else.

This is the first time I have watched a movie where by the end of it, I went, I've seen this before. You are better off like this again, Like I've already said, this movie practically doesn't zist, given that there's another movie with the fucking villain played by the same guy that's better than this one, and it came out after this one, Like that movie came out after this one, but was shot before this one. Because they mentioned in the press for this movie that Florian Pierscu Junior was Piersic Junior was in that movie, and yet they made this movie. They made this movie and that movie was already made. What that's insanity?

Think about that they made this movie after having made cartels with at least with the other films we watched, there was something that we were like, there's something we could say, like, what the hell was that? Yeah, that's there's nothing fun here. There's nothing to clown on. The only thing you can the only thing you can clown on is Steven Seagal's narration, which we've already clowned on. And Jade Ewan's getting shot at the end of the movie is so cgi shit.

The sound she makes when they shoot her in the head. Oh, I know, it's so whacked. This movie's ending. You think, like oh my god, like, oh, he's gonna get his There was a partner actually laughed. There was a part in the film where I actually laughed.

It was the scene where he's he's going against the guards at the impound lot to get the car and he just fucking throws one off a legs. You see him fall. Yeah, yeah, he gets up, He gets up. The guy's fine. Seven Sagal doesn't kill people in these movies anymore, don't you remember?

Oh good, that was a thing for a while because he's a man of peace, remember, until we get to Steven Seagal. Uh, what's it called Steven Seagale law man? Yeah? This, um, you know, I'm gonna ask you ponytail yes or ponytail no driver? But I think our answer is the same here.

This is a minus ponytail. No, this is actually but again it's not even bad. It's just like I don't understand. It's a point of existing. There's a movie that's just it is fucking blah.

Yep, it's you know. I used to think that Keoni Waxman had potential because the first one we watched of his was actually pretty decent as a sea golfin was actually not bad. Actually, there was some entertaining shit in it. I thought, okay, maybe that's later. Keoni Waxman, he's technically gotten better.

Yeah, well, I mean he needs to typically he's gotten better. Thank god. I really want to see a great Steven Seagal film. Well, you got to watch those original ones, which is why we didn't do the show with us just starting with the original movies, because it would be just us talking about how bad these movies are. Because I get the distinct feeling we're not going to be I get the distinct feeling there are going to be more of these kinds of movies.

But to be honest with you, some of them. We've given positive views to some of his later films. Yeah, Attrition was pretty good. M The only one that we really got pissed about was China Salesman. Oh okay, m before we before we stopped talking about the film.

What the fuck was up with the head guy where you never see his face and the in the in the voices obviously eighty yard that's never that's never resolved. We don't know who the fuck he is? Huh? Every time of Vargas, Yeah, where you never see his face and the voice is clearly eighty yard and you and it's like, okay, oh, this is this a mystery, but his face is going to be it's gonna be like a twist. No, then he just ends.

They don't even mention Vargus again. I'm like, we still have dark could still come after him, but I don't care. I love it. It's just it's so lazy. Even Doctor Clawe had resolution, So with both of us.

Ponytail Note, on the next episode of On Sagle, we're gonna be talking about nineteen ninety seven's final Steven Sagal theatrical release of his initial theatrical kind of career Fire down Below, where he plays an EPA agent in rural America, and there's a lot of there's a lot of country Western singers in that movie, including the villain played by Chris Chris Stofferson. It's a weird movie. It's a good movie though, and it's got Harry Dean Stanton in it. Here your thin It's always awesome. So yeah, So that's what'll be talking about on the next episode.

Until then, Where can people find you, Trevor? You can find me on Twitter at bad Vertigo and Instagram at the same. You can also find me from time to time on the Culture Cat with michaelst Chris Stashu here and again also from time time you can find me on the Projection Booth with Mike Waits. So yeah, that's about all you can find me now. So christ where can people find?

You? Find me at cstas dot com, cstac hiw dot com. That's my link tree for all the stuff that I work on. So culture Cast Scary Stories, we tell all that good stuff is there as for this show. Find us on Seagal and on Twitter and Facebook, but we don't really post there.

We just post a show because that's what we like doing, is talking about the movies, not updating social media. But you know, if there was new Steven Seagal social media stuff, we might share it. But also like, there's no new news other than semi embarrassing stuff that we would probably rather not talk about. So yeah, So on that note, yeah, make sure to check out the next episode