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Chris and Jess continue their look at Animal Planet's found footage horror anthology series that often misses but sometimes lands its cryptids subject matter: Lost Tapes. This episode focuses on the Quetzlcoatl.

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There are creatures science refuses to recognize. If I see it, if our cameras capture it, does it exist? Do you believe? Hello everyone, and welcome to yet another episode of Scary Stories. We tell I am your host, Christashu, and I'm joined on this Lost Tapes chronic.

As we speed towards the end, we downhill. These last couple episodes get to the end of this mess. My good friend and yours artist among ten plan Plantasia enjoyer as my son Mort Garson fan Maggie, the Hey gang. How's it going? I love mort Garson at least Plantasia.

Oh my god. If you've never listened to Plantasia, it's a vinyl album that's music for plants. Yeah, only listen to it if you're a plant, otherwise get the fuck out. Or if you're high on grass. Well, I think that still cows looks kind of like a swamp thing scenario.

Are you a plant? Bro, Bro me in the ground and I will grow. All I need is sunlight. I got everything and water, dude. Yeah, oh definitely stay hydrated.

Yeah, oh yeah, my god. Maggie. On this episode of the Lost Age Chronicles, we're talking about qu a certain god not Q from James Bond, not Q from Star Trek, not cue from anything that you care about. They don't even want to put its entire name in the title. We're talking about spell it.

Yeah, that's probably what it is. We're talking about Ketziquado yep say. Episode aired October twenty six to twenty ten, and it's about ketzequattal, but not really. It's about some ritualistic murders in Mexico City taking place, and I guess they're sacrificing people to ketzl quado. Now, many of you who are not you know as tech, will be asking yourselves, what is kettel quatdal?

What does ketz alquatta mean? What is what is Why is ketzel quatdal? Well, kets al quattal roughly translated means precious serpent or ketzel feathered serpent in ketzl Quatdal is essentially you know who Yorman Gunder is in Norse mythology, the world serpent. Ketzel Quattal is the Aztec equivalent Hell. Yes, Orman Thunder.

Yorman Gunder is not a evil spirit. No, ketzel Quato is not an evil spirit, not even close. No, he is the world serpent. He is often portrayed as a snake with a with feathers. Yeah, and kind of a I don't know how to explain it other than it kind of looks like a dragon's head, but it's a it's a snake head.

I mean, there's all kinds of different interpretations of the of ketzl quaddle, So again, you know, really good design. Honestly, it's one of my favorite things to get. Should McCarthy ten say, my fellow nerds, I mean, Jesus Christ, you know, I don't know many of you play smite out there. Well here kuckle Khan is just like kekukle Kan is the Mayan version of ketzel Quaddle. But ketzl Quadda is not a evil being.

I just want to get this out there before we because boy do they lean on that boy. Yeah. So in this episode, yeah, it is essentially the enigma KRP dipshits once again. At least Mooney and Noel are called. Yeah, are called to Mexico City to investigate ritualistic murders.

The cold open involves a tourist whose vo is completely definitely not Redone because it totally doesn't seem like it meshes with anything. Pet it's so natural with the outdoors too, so clean. Honestly, they found the one day where there's no wind. Yeah, it's it's really funny. They like they have them shooting at Teoti wa Khan and then it's like what is this and the woman goes it's too TiO Wakhan and then it's like all the ambient sound cuts out and it's just like clearly vo recorded in the studio somewhere.

Yes, yeah, it's really noticing. But for whatever reason, this uh, this tourist goes to this train depot where he thinks that there is going to be some more ruins. There aren't, and he goes into the top of this train depot and it's a giant nest and he gets eaten by something baby or sacrifice to Ketchel Quaddle, it's not a desert worm, I know what everybody's thinking. It's not the death worm. Right, So then we pick up the Enigma Corp dipshits and what do we get.

We have them in Mexico investigating ritualistic murders that may or may not have to do with Ketzlquado and that's almost all of the episode. Yeah, it's just them doing a poor rendition of a shittier version of Temple of Doo. Temple of Doo. Oh, it's just the ritualistic aspects. It's that shitty version.

Man. I mean, you got the pyramids, you got the wacky backdrop, there's a bunch of knives and shit. Yeah, yeah, there is this whole god. So they're they're trying to figure out where the ritualistic murders are taking place. And they have this informant who has this knife that they need because it's a special knife to use in the sacrifices to ketcel Quado.

Yeah, because that was one of the few facts that they could glean that sounded nefarious from the history of Queticado. You know, is used an obsidian knife, and we all know Obsidians like a Satanist gemstone. Well, and again, I mean, it looks cool, and it looks cool. It seems it seems really it seems old world. It seems like it works with the time and the place of what kettl Quadda is.

But the issue, the issue is kind of a different one. It's like, what does this have to do with ketzl Quadda. No, My favorite issue about this is is this is not a cryptid in the weirdest way, like what's our next cryptid? Jesus right, like it's intact from the dead. It's yeah, I don't understand, like this is a this is a god, this is a deity in Aztec culture.

Yeah, this is someone that people like pray to and once again not even got him. He's a god of wind, he's you know, like what it writes, what character is this? Like, I don't under I don't what's weird is I don't understand what the fuck they were thinking. No, once I genuinely don't understand, Like they have so many big snake episodes, you don't need another big snake. And I would contend that's not even what this is.

I know, I know, because what we see is essentially a tera deck a bit yeah, or I don't know what it is. Frankly, this is well, it was very ambiguous, blurry and dark. I can see where they kind of got the snake vibes going. But my main thing is the big difference on this big snake to all other big snakes. We didn't even fucking wings, like they have had episodes with big birds and all they do is the woosh sounds they didn't even give us a courtesy woosh, Chris.

No, that's what I don't understand. Like, this is the god of wind. This is a giant serpent god. We feathered serpent god who helped create the world as the as tech saw. And where do they get any of this shit from?

Is my question. They literally said it must be. They said it must Okay, so we have this idea there's this giant feathered snake god in this tech culture, so why don't we do like a ritualistic murder thing with that. But that is not this show. It has never been.

This shout a left field unless there was specifically a cryptid that could be like summoned or something like if you did demons, I would have an easier time. This is just an Aztec god that has no business being on a cryptid list. Walk me through, what are we going to read this to? You? You tell me who.

According to the Book of Mormon, Oh Boy, the resurrected Jesus Christ descended from heaven and visited people of the American continent shortly after his resurrection. Some followers of the Latter day Saints movement believe that kets A Quadda was historically Jesus Christ, but believe his name and the details of the event were gradually lost over time. Wow, you tugged me for a ride, Sir, I was not expecting to get in that car. BET's a quaddle is not a religious symbol in the Latter Day Saints' fate and is not taught as such, nor is it in their doctrine that ketz Alquadal Jesus. However, in eighteen ninety two, John Taylor, one of the presidents of the faith, wrote the story of the life of the Mexican difinity.

Kettlquaddle closely closely resembles that of the Savior, so closely indeed, that we come to no other conclusion that kettl Quaddle and Christ are the same being. But the history of the former has been handed down to us through an impure Lamantish source which is sadly disfigured and perverted the original incidents and teachings the Savior's life and ministry. It's impressive, Chris, who would have thought that the Mormons had the answer for why Quetzelcadal and Jesus are kryptis They're clearly the same creature. It's like it's like a larger scale skin walker. It's like a god's skin walker.

Chris, I don't understand. It's impressive. I don't understand at all. I want to write God fan fiction. What the fuck that?

I didn't realize that that could be an occupation since eighteen whenever? Yeah, wow, I what? Well? Yeah, Like I'm okay. I kind of wish that that was the episode.

It was just they open, It's just open with that statement and nothing else, Like, you don't even have to show Jesus, just have somebody read that instead of the intro and boom, just be thinking about it for twenty minutes and then it cuts to a different show because time's up. Well, and that's the thing for me about all of this is you were joking before we talked about this whole Jesus is ketzlguaddle thing. You joked like, what are they going to do next? Jesus? Like, yeah, that is kind of what That's exactly what that is.

They're saying it's the same, well, they're saying it's the same, but also, like what we've mentioned before, and we'll say, and I will say it again, where is the loch Ness Monster episode? Oh, he's a bear, is repeating. Apparently, now he is Jesus too, it bears repeating. Where is that episode? Wa?

This is like we've talked about this before where the show kind of with Poltergeist, right, it kind of felt like it was reaching double Monkey. You weren't here for that one that was again reaching This is like, it's it's just that's not what the conceit of the show was. No, that's like somebody doing homework without realizing what the assignment was and then you have to present it in front of the class and they're like, well, oh, my favorite cryptid is ques. It's like, well you you you failed the assignment before you even Yeah, you failed the assignment from the moment you started, and you're even right like exactly, like you know, there was always that one kid in school, like you said, he was like I'm going to do this one thing, and it's like you got a zero yeah, clearly and had to make us sit through it.

And you know what the sad thing is, I believe they could have done a Kettle Quadal episode. It could have. It could have done a lot better than this. I don't know how. I think maybe you said it and like me said it at the Museum of Natural History in Mexico City, where the Museum of History in Mexico City, and have it an angle of like an artifact or something or something to that effect.

I don't know, but like it could have gotten resurrected in the museum. And it's just like smashing shit. You don't even have to make them a nefarious thing, just a very dangerous thing, because it's a flying giant snake, right, It's like Clifford the Big Red Dog. There's going to be some fallout. It's not just one family being affected by this thing, right, Okay, Right, And and that's and I don't know, like that's the problem there, because like the stakes of the episode are that Cancel Quad comes back is kind of destroy the world, and yet it right back and nothing has happened, right, It just killed some fucking Enigma Corp.

Well didn't, right, right? Yeah? Well, no, I stay did this? I guess I guess they didn't even I guess it didn't kill it didn't kill them that the people did. Well, the snake lashed out at somebody at the end.

I think it. I don't. That was very ambiguous. I think well, I think the other issue I think overall what this episode is. So the bulk majority of theisode is set in this kind of steakout van and they're waiting for this guy to go talk to this other guy and he's like, there will be no tomorrow night, you know, the world's gonna end and blah blah.

And then they're like, all right, well we know where we're going now, and so they there's this weird scene where like the guy that they're using threatens to kill the Enigma Corp woman and then he runs off because he realized how evil this place is. Right, this is Goose, That is Goose like whatever. Fun. But then but then we get to the end and it's taking place in the train depot where kettl Quadda is who they're trying to summon but already exists and is alive. So what was what were they what were they doing?

What? Huh? Giving it some nums, giving it some sneaky snacks so it can live for another century. Well and that's for our sins, Chris, Yeah, that's what what I don't understand here is if they're trying to summon kettl quaddle kettl quatdal summoned at the end of the episode, but they didn't succeed, or did they. But Kettlquatda was there at the beginning of the episode, and one is that a cryptid for like fe's time.

It makes you ladies and gentlemen. Oh, I know it drives me nuts where it's just absolutely absurd. But let me ask you something. You remember when the Aztec calendar ran out and everybody thought the world was gonna end about what time was that? That was twenty twelve, okay, two years away, So I can vaguely understand if they wanted to do a quetz Ocado episode because of the hype because of the stupid calendars.

Yeah, but that but that nothing to do with the calendar syst I learned more about the fucking Aztec calendar system from the Book of Mormon that I did from this episode, which is saying quite apparently kett al quattle Mormon icon kettl quatto, dude, See that makes me want to be a Mormon. That's a cool god to have on your side. But now when it's Jesus quetz ocadle snake, Jesus speaking of things that are named Mormon that are a good Book of Mormon. Oh, yes, very much so. Joseph smeet American Moses.

So I've been told I don't know what the connection to LDS is all about. That's at first for me, I had never heard that before. But my interpretation of kettl guattle is not this episode, and I think the episode knows that. And I think the episode tried to do something with the idea of ketzl quattle that doesn't speak to or suit the narrative of ketzl quaddle as we've been taught about it and or read about it online. You know, this is like comprising a BuzzFeed quiz where they knew a popular topic and they wanted to do serial killing or cult killing, and so they just tried to jam them in the same thing in hopes that it would kind of stack and be popular just by association of these two cool things.

And it's like it just doesn't drive, especially when the leader of said non cult cult is once again painfully what that again? You know, we we talked about at the end of the last episode, like we were gonna have some words about this episode. This is probably the worst episode of the show. I mean, it definitely makes me want to punch somebody the most. I wouldn't say it's the worst, but it's up there because this makes no sense why it was made narrative structure.

I can give it a pass because it vaguely makes sense. It's still not good, and they kept it vague enough in case they wanted to bring the stupid enigma. People that both simultaneously die and keep living. They're crypted. They're so memorable, you know what, They're so memorable who even cares?

Oh gosh, yeah, Connor and Mooney, Connie on the shirt, Connie and Connie and KENI got biff chas Tin and Tanner ce slammin. What is that? Is that? A? Is it an appetizer Guy Fieri's restaurant?

Yeah, appetizer that sigel And that's like that we've been We were talking about Bugsy Malone a couple of weeks ago, and one of the character's name is Blousey something, and I said, Flossy Buggers. I mean, it's just off flossy bugger. It's damn flossy buggers. If that ate a British drag queen, I'll be damned at young namemate full of saint bgace Off flossy beggar. Eh, you are one flossy black app It's it's gotten to the point with this show.

You know, I've been podcasting now for a while some of you yes, and I've in my lifetime. There are some things that stand out to me and some patterns that jump out. I've done a fair amount of these anthology shows. Now we've closing in on completing two anthology shows for sure, beginning to end, one of the big Tales from the Crypt, the other one being the nineteen eighty five Twilight Zone. This is an anthology show, you would agree, right, yep, man, this is a bad anthology show.

Dude. It's unhinged. I would even argue that it's not an anthology because all of these books are just scattered across the library and not in one tone. Well, and that is the problem. There is like there's no unified idea here, and it felt like in the first season there really was.

And you know it, it's gotten to the point where the show where, you know, like with Tales from the Crypt and Twilight Zone. By the end of the show, I'm exhausted with the show because the show has just the show has given it has taken every opportunity to do the least possible and or something so inane and idiotic that it's shocking because you have the Windgo episode, right, the Windgo episode was great, Yeah, and then you watch this episode and you're like, this is the same show, right, this this is I don't want to say this is the worst twenty two minutes of TV I've watched in a long time, but it might be. It was just infuriating meandering. Yeah, and then the payoff at the end is laughable, laughable.

That ketzel quatdal puppet or whatever that's supposed to be, Like maybe CGI, but I think it's a puppet. I think it's a practical effect. I think they took that monster from that remember the episode where the guy like dies in the water, like the old man's like walking in the water. It feels like they just took that puppet and stood it up. It looks like that same bug eyed, weird craby design.

I'm sure they had plenty of body tubes from all the Giant Sneak episodes they did too, right, Like it's it's a it's a really crappy design for a character, and like I got a cryptid adjacent like mythology folklore. I thought they were totally gonna cop out and just do like giant feathers and a big flap flap and that was it, because that's what they've done in the past, and it's been like, ah, yeah, I guess that was the thing. Well, and that is what I was expecting. I mean they did Thunderbird already, right, exactly right, like they did Thunderbird already, Like I don't understand, you know what you need to do if you're gonna do this shit again. I would contend though, if you've done Thunderbird, why do this episode?

Like why it's the same? Do you do that is ketzl quattle? Geez? Who cares? Really, especially if you're not did he?

No, that was when the show still was nice. That was the first season dropped him in a tree and it broke his arm, broke some ship. Yeah, but but like at the end of the day, like, what did that have to do with Thunderbird? Nothing? What did this have to do with kettledquattle?

Nothing? So you could have swapped, Yeah, this could have been a Thunderbird episode. What would it have mattered? Yeah, A little leftover like some of the episodes have and ship. You don't even see the thunderbird in that episode.

No, it's like shadows, yeah cgi shadow wooshes right, And then I think did they have did they do that? I don't remember. No, I think I'm thinking of mon Nan, although that one had like a straight up owl pellet man Nan yeah, owl me and a manya owl may in a Man's still my favorite name. Like I wish a cooler thing were called that. Wish a wrestler would called that, that'd be my favorite wrestler.

But god, by god, it's the Owlman of Monan prepared to get pilloted. I'm gonna tear you apart, brother Man of Money. His finisher is just called uh, I don't know the talent drop oh man reckon the church tonight. He does like he does. He does like a you know how some wrestlers used to like a backscratch.

That's what. Oh yeah, totally it's ship out of their back. That's like, that's a female wrestler, old cool female wrestler gag. But you do that scratch the bag. Oh my goddess.

The Monan drop kick sound, even though it's just a different bird in general, but they're gonna Now this is like the nineties w W E booking WWS. Oh yeah, we'd be champs. You would be fighting it. You would be fighting a dentist and a garbage man in a three way match for the hardcore Championship. Oh yeah, he's the heel that everybody obviously loves because the heroes suck and he's round sinner.

Dude, it's me, the owl man of mind. And eat your rats and say your prayers. Brother, will be you accounted for? An ask kickin? Yeah?

Cats, this is just you know what? This is the last Enigma Corp episode, By the way, is it really? Oh? Thank god? So come what can we what can we really sit?

Well, they showed up in Strugoy, We're there, They showed up in Zombie, and they showed up in this. Of those three, I think the best is probably the Zombie episode, which is saying a lot because man, we we shot on that one hard. Yeah, because that episode was in and of itself dog shit, Yes it was. This season has been overall very bad. Yeah, like I hate to be that guy, but like, subjectively this season has been really bad.

Yeah for me at least, like and clearly for you. And when when Jess was here. I think Jess kind of echoed it was so bad she ain't never could because yeah, jes show up, they're gone guest appearance, and that's it folks, at least for loss tapes. But fuck yeah, it's we ruined that one. But that's the thing.

I think that at this point, I can't help but feel like they just gave up, you know, like we were talking about in the last episode, just and I were talking, I was like, I would love to speak with someone who worked on the show, and I might still reach out to because I would like to I'd be deeply fascinated to know, like how this was organized, because it's very intuitive that something was not communicated properly across the board. That's what it feels like, or somebody just was like, oh yeah, it's fine, like right right, Like it feels like if somebody had just done the bare minimum of research on the list. Because the way I would assume this works is like the beginning of the season, when they're kind of planning out the season, they have like a list and they winnow that list down to like the ten ones that they're like, these are the ones.

Yeah, and then they take that list to whomever and get approval to do those episodes and like the script and they bash it out, they come back. They needed to be some more oversighter because like the zombies and the Poulter guys and the vampires and the Catzl guaddal like non quality checkers, please, I would contend. So we're on the seventh episode of the season. Eight episode of the season. In the eighth episode of this season.

There are ten episodes of this season. There will be by the end of the season. I think for three cryptid episodes YETI When to Go and The Beast of bray Rep. I believe those will be the three cryptids. And there are ten episodes.

That isn't that's rough because that's even less than hany Yeah, that's true. Thinking back to it, a lot of them are more constant, like conceptual than anything else. We look at the second season, we have advance, so we have one, two, three, four, five, six, six of the ten are cryptids. Uh, it's not bad. And then the first the first season, pretty much across the boards, let's say ten or twelve of the fourteen.

Yeah, I mean that's a lot of the other ones were more repeat customers than anything else. Yeah, and the first big Animals saga, right right, and yeah, and there was the yeah, and the first season had like the death worm. The first season had like the heavy hitters like skin Walker, death worm, death raptor you know, the beat, the Bigfoot, choop a cabra, mofman, mofman is in the first season of the show. So yeah, that's like they they only had three two or three episodes in that first fourteen season for fourteen episode run season that were not cryptids, and now we're we're like three of ten. Yeah, that's all, and they're not there.

There are not just thirty cryptids, that's the problem. Oh hell no, there are so many. And I guess in the first season I kind of forgave the big animal episodes because they were just leaning into the other half of their show theory, which was just giving you facts of why these creatures could exist. So it's like, yeah, it's really disappointing and kind of shitty that you're just giving me like a big snake but couldn't exist today. And it's like, well no, but it did exist, So yeah, and I would I would take those giant animal episodes over catzl quattle.

Oh any time Mega Conda is like Megakanda looks like paranormal activity. Compared to this episode, you know what I mean, Like you even got the variety of cameras, which you know what, I will go out on a on a limb. I do miss that a lot. They did it sparsely in the second one. They still had some creative endeavors to get the found footage, but like the first episode, gave you a poe prix of uh, just straight up solutions for how it was found footage.

They went through it, whether it was like body cam, whether it was CCTV, it was a group got a camera for her birthday, right, the kid borrowed dad's cam quorder. Right, it was at least a variety this it's just we have a narrative. Yeah, they have a camera, Why the fuck not? Well, of course they have a camera. They're documenting yeah, right, I mean that's thing, you know, like they're documenting it for X y Z reasons.

Right, Well, especially with the Enigma Corp, you don't really need a built in explanation, which makes them equally lazy as well as just heanously ill equipped to even deal with any of these problems. Well, that and that is the funny thing about the Enigma Corp in this show is they're like the most bunch of fucking idiots the side of the Mason Dixon once again, I've impressed. Yeah, and that's a big line. I think Chris that they straight up just haven't died yet. I swear they died twenty different times, because it's like, how do you survive this well?

And that is the ultimate issue with this this kind of season of the show is they have these three Enigma Corp episode and the Enigma Corp episode should have been half of the season, really should should have well, I mean again, they've had they they started changing the way the show worked and changing how they present the narrative, and it seemed like they were setting themselves up to use the Enigma Corp in those scenarios consistently, right because they had every opportunity. Yeah, I was expecting you to be every episode. Yeah why not? Then it's like set all the episodes up to be that way. It literally like all I would have taken was just casting the same people, are making like their characters a bit more, you know, with it or not in the same actors having an a bunch of Enigma Corp dumb dumbs that just keep dying.

Yeah, it's like double O seven, somebody else takes up the moony mantle, right or just like it's just you know, a bunch of red shirts and they keep sending out Yeah, like I don't know, do more than this, which is just like half assing at hardcore. And I wonder if like that, I wonder, I wonder if the Enigma Corp thing was like a note from Animal Planet. They were like, well, people are really getting into like, you know, mythologies and like myth arc storytelling, so like, let's you guys need to introduce like the light mythos to the show. Like I wonder if that's what it was. And again like you're struggling to come up with an idea.

Maybe throw these cats in right and like that, you know, like I've said, I want to reach out to the people who made the show, and I am going to because I want I don't know if people are reaching out to talk to them, but I would love to know more about the show and where what the influences of the show were co Yeah, who made the season, who made the decisions here? And I really want to know, like what was the creative process from season to season, because it definitely feels like at some point somebody handed it off to somebody else. Oh yeah, it probably got picked up and passed over or they lost a lot of people, right, And yeah, three years of your life making a TV show is a long time, folks, I mean nutty.

You know people like to talk about, Oh my god, you know Supernational ran for fourteen seasons. That's fourteen years of your life. Yeah, it's crazy. Like I've been doing this gig, the podcasting thing since twenty fourteen. That's eight yes, that's eight years.

Now. That's the longest I've done anything outside of like school. Yeah, and I'm like a diner job that long. But that's more depressing than cool, I don't like. But it's it's weird to think about that because like throwing yourself headfirst into something for that long, Like, not everybody is going to be as motivated and as motivated really as you are.

It's like, you know, the passionate about the show. Like some people are gonna be like this was just a job and I'm out of here after one season and babe, if it's like individual episodes, it's like Tales from Dark Side, where yeah, you'll get some repeat names, but it's like, boy, you can tell some of those episodes were easily meant to be throwaway episodes from the rip. Some's you know, it's it's a production company working with people, not people working with a production company. It's you know, it's it's all centralized to the production company, but the people that they're working with are different. It would seem at least the actors and stuff.

Yeah, this must have been a side hustle for a lot of the people, because it makes sense to have different teams shooting these episodes because they're not related, and that way you can kind of double time it so that you can just have like three productions going at once. Oh yeah, because then people can fuck off to like their initial gig, because I'm sure Animal Planet wasn't paying out too high either. Well yeah, and that's the question, like is this, like is this the sole gig of the people who are working on it, So that again, I'm gonna avail myself to reach out when we're done here and kind of reach out and see if we can talk to some of those people who worked on the show, because yeah, again there hasn't been anything else like it, and there may never be, so it would be nice to talk to people who made it, because somebody was very this.

This show doesn't just happen by accident. I mean, yeah, Cloverfield and stuff exist at the time, and that's obviously a massive inspiration because it comes out of the same year as Cloverfield. But like, somebody had to say I want to do a show about Cryptid, and somebody else had to say, yeah, that's a good idea, helly, or sell me on that idea, and somebody did get sold because they they put out money for this show. So I would love to I would love to know. I would love to know the story behind the show because it's got to be an interesting story.

And that third season. Sure, I wonder what the third season was like, because maybe the people who worked on the show in the third season knew it wasn't very good. It's not like people who work on things creatively don't know. Oh yeah. I mean sometimes some people are unwilling to admit it or see the light, but plenty of people know, and plenty of For plenty of people, it is just a job and they don't give a shit about the quality because fuck you pay me?

Yeah right, No, I mean there are plenty of people that are mercenaries. It's a job. I mean, there are plenty of people listening to this right now that have a job that they don't give a shit. Yep. Do you think that's any dick out?

Do you think that's any different in the entertainment industry, it's not. No, especially if you live, especially if you live in the in the parts of the world where the entertainment industry employs a lot of people. Not everybody is a giant movie fan. A lot of people probably don't want to watch they have no interest in watching them because they work on them all the time, exactly. You know, not everybody is a huge movie fan.

That's not the way it is. So No, I'm really excited to reach out and see if we can't talk to some of the people involved with the show, because there've got to be some interesting stories, especially about sure Ketzl quadalless and stuff like that. Yes, oh I love it. Yeah, hate the episode, but love the concept. Yeah.

And kettl quatdalike again, like, I'm not even Ketzl Quattal's not a thing we would ever talk about on this show. What is there to talk about, Like maybe he would come up in an episode we were talking about like interesting gods and deities from around the world. What funis I don't know if that's a fun episode. But you know, ketsel Quattal's not anything really, He's a fucking wind god. He's not a creature that he's a cool dad eats people, that kills people.

He is a benevolent god who sits in the horror movie in deducing whatsoever. No, not at all. And the fact that that's where they go with it really just kind of similarly to the Wend to Go, Like at least the Wind to Go makes sense culturally that you could like paint them as a villain like kettl Quatta absolutely kind of disrespectful in a way like yeah, it's like, oh, I don't understand this god, but I bet they still sacrifice people to it and it's like the dead static. Yeah. Ever so, yeah, this this episode smacks of a lot of problems.

But you know, lack of cultural interpretation I think is a big one. Definitely up there. Having no cultural framework on how to actually approach a god of people is kind of not great. Yeah, they're lucky that civilization is dead, otherwise they'd be getting a lot of letters and Brian. So on the next end up, an ultimate episode of Lost Tapes Chronicles, we're going to be talking about a actual cryptid, the Beast of Bray Road, which is a wolf creature.

So we've already talked about this one, so well, fair enough cool, I mean, hey, whatever, we want a thought. It is a cryptid, so it does meet the technical standards that the show was setting for itself early on. I better get some animal facts on those. I need to know more about the micanthropes. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what You're better be getting animal facts on this upcoming episode, because you're not going to get any on the last episode.

No, no, I don't even know what you're gonna get on the last episode, Ladies and gentlemen. Reptilians are sitting underneath New York City. That's what you're gonna get. Alex Jones is one of the talking heads. Yes, that would be fine, blowing perfect.

He has like his foil hat and his power supplements. This is a family show. Please buy my bone meal and spermit to sooa powder. Yes, rub it on your cattle. Liquid ketzel quotal ground up kettel quaddle feathers.

We mix them with a propetary blend of a vomit inducing supplements. That's all for the healthy male. It'll put hair on your head, and hair on your back, and hair on your knuckles. It'll put hair where you never thought you could get it. Ladies on your eyes.

Yeah, you get hair on the inside of your eyelids. Ooh nice scrubbing. Yeah, it's disgusting. So until then, Maggie, where can people find you? If they were looking?

You can find me at my lovely little website dole in me dot com d O L I N. I have a bunch of my artwork and crazy endeavors up there. And that's about it, because I killed all my social medias, like the various cubs of mantus youth. Well, hey, you know what, nothing wrong with removing yourself from social media. Yeah.

As for me, c statue dot com that's my link tree for all the things that I work on. As for this show, Scary Stories, we tell dot com Scary Stories WT on all social media's. But just listen to the show, rate and review on iTunes. That's all you gotta do. That's the amount of interaction that is kind of it really like, if you want to do more than that, it's up to you.

So so yeah. As always, Maggie, thank you so much for the album artwork for the show Oh Cheers. And to our good friend Dustin Religi as well for the album artwork that he provides for the Campfire Stories episodes. And to our good friend Alex Malinak of Blondeo for the amazing music that he provides. You can find him on Spotify just search Blondeo.

And as always we'll let our good friend mister Tim White is no mystery is close to an open mind

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