Magnum Force (1973) — "A man's got to know his limitations."

Weary we. Hey fatherom alone, Yes, why are we talking about John Millius films? Whose John Millius is the last great American filmmaker. That's why. Big words from a big man.

Big words about a big man. That's true. He was a big man. He is still a big man. That's true.

He is still around, He's still kicking. It old school that's right. Giants in every sense. Yeah, but why John Millius? Other than the reason you just said.

Well, I for one have always been a massive fan of mister John Melius, probably starting with Connor the Barbarian naturally, like what an entry level but a gateway drug into the world of Millius's machismo. You know, the film brats, the film school generation. They get lionized quite a bit, and as well they should. They did revolutionarized the industry. But the one who doesn't get mentioned all that much is Millius.

And he was the breakout of that group. Like he was the one who had first success, and he ended up creating some of the greatest fucking films of all Goddamn Time Apocalypse now alone would would qualify him as as one of the greatest. Never mind his script for Dirty Harry, the previous film to this one, although he's uncredited on that one, that is definitely a John Millius script. I mentioned Conan the Barbarian Red Dawn, which was which was instill is seen as some sort of reactionary right wing propaganda movie, and that belies the other thing that I love about John Millius is that he is a right wing sort of instigator. But I get the sense that if if the ruling class had been liberal, then he would have definitely been a conservative, you know what I mean, Like, like whatever whatever opposition he could take to fuck with people, he was going.

He's a provocateur above all else, I guess. And I really love that about it, Like I love that about Samuel Adams, which everyone just knows as a beer now. He was always my favorite Patriot. He was just about fucking shit up. He was like, fuck them, how can we fuck that?

Fuck their their you know, their whole day up, these these British motherfuckers. And Millia seems to sort of cater to that as well, and he's not afraid to offend everybody. But you know, he also loves Teddy Roosevelt and America and rough riding and mountain men and macho shit lots of goods. And you know what, he fucking lived it. He fucking walked the walk and talked to talk.

He was a giant of a man, still a giant of a man, and I love him. So when you asked me if I wanted to program a month that the answer was easy. Yeah, the films of John Millius. So that's right, everyone. On this episode of the Culture Cast, I am still your host, Christashu, much to the chagrin of at least two people out there, and I'm joined by my two good friends all the way from midnight viewing Father Alone.

This movie's got the worm logo. And your friend of mine, he's a man, not a computer. HP. Hello everybody, I laugh at your four winds Father alone. Ah, are you crum now?

I also, I mean that's what you just said, So yeah, Crumb laughs at a full winds Christ And that's right. On this episode of the Culture Cast, we are kicking off our little John Millius month over here with a look at nineteen seventy three's Dirty Harry's sequel is called Magnum Magnum Force. They know which way, they know which side the bread the butter is on. It's a Magnum Force. They do it was not Yeah, original title vigilance.

This is a terrible title for a movie. Also, Magnum Force also a terrible title for a. Just call it vigilante cops. I mean this summer vigilante cops. What are they doing?

Who are they? And do they sing songs? They might? Yeah, that's a we're gonna be talking about on this episode of the Culture Cast. Film is directed by Ted Post, screenplay by John Millius and Michael Chimino.

And yes, it stars Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry. It also stars Fletch lives his own Hal Holbrook. Uh. Yeah, that is that is that why we picked it, Mitchell Ryan, David Soul. There's a very young Tim Matheson in this movie as well, Kip Nivin felt In, Perry Witch.

Yeah, speaking of Fletch, Uh soo, HP, I'm gonna kick it to you first, since you are a guest and you have said very little, what do you think and when did you see? Originally Magnum fours. So I was really excited because Clint Eastwood movies when I was a kid on cable, they were omnipresent. This Dirty Harry movies didn't give a lot of play in my house. I think maybe my parents just appreciated the fact that they were a little too violent for for a little HP.

But so I was excited. And then when I saw that Millius had had co written this right, Yes, he wrote it, and I think Timino came in and did a rewrite. Is that not correct for them? Ma alone? Yeah, Emilius wasn't available for rewrites, and Shamino did the final passes when they went to camera.

Anytime I can be involved in a Dirty Harry Starsky and Hutch crossover, effectively, I'm all aboard. When I saw the Rogue Cops included David Soul and Robert Yurick. Of course Spencer for hire and he and he died in the Wool Bostonian. From that time, I'll know him well as Spencer. I was excited.

And Tim Matheson, the baby faced Tim Matheson, you know, making an appearance. It's fantastic, So I was. I was really excited. So this effectively, to answer your question short story long, this was my first time seeing this movie, so I was pretty excited to delve into. It bottom alone.

Same question to you, sir, well, why does it pick this I guess to be. Yeah, well, okay, I saw this a long long time ago. My first experience with Dirty Harry was the film Sudden Impact, which I saw in the theater, and then I think immediately afterwards saw Magnum four. So I kind of worked my way backwards in a way, and I didn't see the Enforcer until much later, but then finally saw Dirty Harry sort of after the fact and realized the law of diminishing returns was interfect with Dirty Harry in general. But of the movies that Millius wrote, which is kind of what we're looking at because you know, we're doing Apocalypse now as well.

His Okay, he did not originate the character of Harry Callahan. That was an original script before him. His name isn't even on it. I said at the outset, it's his script. I've read all all the drafts, like he rarely picks it up and runs with it and gives that character who he is in that movie.

And then carrying forward. Why I picked this instead of that is that first of all, that movie has been that the bones have been picked clean on what you what you can possibly say about Dirty Harry, and it is a gest bit of movie making. It really is a fantastic film. What I like about this one is this is Milius, Like, Okay, now I've got credit. Now I can kind of do what I want to do with this character.

And now I can kind of answer everyone who was saying that I was a fascist asshole and the last one for having this road cop. If they think that dirty Harry Callahan is a road cop, I'll give them Roague cop. So I like the sort of fuck you attitude about the screenplay. And although I will say this, I remember this movie a lot more fondly than now rewatching it, and I haven't watched it in about twenty five years, I guess, and it hits a whole lot different. Now.

This is a movie with some really good action pieces and a meandering script that ends up, you know, sort of collapsing on itself sort of formulaically. But I don't know if it's Mellius's fall. I know that because I know Chamino rewrote the whole ending. It's all car chases and shootouts and shit, and Millius had it sort of a little more human, a little more personal. But I don't know if this is a good movie.

But I do enjoy watching it at least parts. So I had seen this movie a couple of years back. I don't remember when, but I know I had seen it. I think my dad and I had watched all the Dirty Harry movies one summer together when I went and visited them, and so I watched it then. I don't remember much.

I just remember the kind of the end of the movie more than anything else. It's you know, I don't again, I don't remember much from when I watched it the first time, which I think says a lot about the movie because I definitely watched it during the time I've been doing this the podcast. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say again, effectively, i'm watching it for the first time in terms of my ability to remember most of the movie. That being said, I think this movie is fine. The original movie is so much better.

But the original movie I think has a lot more going forward in terms of its just feeling novel. This movie has to try and take the character of Dirty Harry and do something interesting with him, as opposed to the first movie, which is introducing us to the character. And that I mean that in and of itself allows for a lot of room to play with that first movie does, and the first movie also, I think the conceit of that first movie I think is so much better. It's a cop, an unhinged cop, versus the Sodiac killer. Who wouldn't want to watch that?

I mean, this is kind of its own contrived nonsense. And yeah, to your point, father Blane, Like the third act of the movie is just it falls apart, Like this movie falls apart in the third act in a way that I was not expecting, because it feels like the third act of this movie is written by somebody else. Effectively, was I enjoy Clint Eastwood's performance, And I'm curious because again we'll be talking we won't be talking about Clint Eatwood again this month. Clint Easwood's not someone who I've talked about a lot on this show, if at all. And I think he's also a really interesting entry point for these movies because for a lot of people, dirty Harry and Clint Eastwood, that's like there, Clint Eastwood is Dirty Harry.

For some people there Clint Eastwood is the man with no name. But for some people like this is there Clint Eastwood. So it's certainly mine more so than those other films absolutely, because when I was going to the movies, these were the movies I was watching. A Sudden Impact and then The Deadpool, like I had an active movie going relationship with Dirty Harry as character, whereas I would have to go to a revival house to go check out good, the Bad, and the ugly right. Well, and that's and you know, I feel like that's still for the most part with something like this is still the case because this had a pinball machine made off of it, the Dirty Hairy character like it's, it's had video games more or less based off of it, with lethal enforcers on the Supernintendo and Genesis in the nineties, which was also a gun con Cabinet game.

I mean, you know, we feel unlucky punk let that kind of transcended the film almost and became its own thing, which again I think speaks volumes to the performance that Clint Eastwood kind of turns in as Dirty Harry, because I think for most people, like you said, by the moment, it's either this or that, and I get and again, like I think Unforgiven is kind of like a terminous moment for Clint Eastwood's like Man with No Name character I kind of lump that one in there because it's very much like Pardon Parcel. But Dirty Harry has what five movies? Is that? Right? Five?

That's a lot of movies is one character, especially for Clint Eastwood, Like I mean, Schwarzenegger barely even I think Schwarzenegger did five as the Terminator, but that was never the same character. That's a lot. This is a franchise, it's a lot of movies. Considering at the end of the first film, he's so disgusted with the system that he throws his badge away and quits. Like making money, baby Clinieswood likes to make money like the rest of us, do you know?

I know? But I feel so bad because you know, obviously Callahan came to a crossroads and made a decision, and now we've backed off on that decision for him. That's not cool. They bring they bring him back and saddle him with with these dirty cops and suddenly it's dirty dirty Harry Callahan versus father alone. Yeah, how Oldbrook I think for me is like other than Clinicewood is the best part of this movie.

You think in this they don't let him, but like again, because he's the secret villain of the movie. They don't let him like twist a mustache until way later. But I don't think he would have from the beginning because hal Oldbrook is that sort of layered and and I like how how prissy and yet sort of forceful at the same time. He can be as an actor as this character. Right well and that and yeah, you know, you know, we joked about Fletch Lives.

But the other thing that I think of when I think of how Holbrook playing a villain is Fletch Lives, where again, he's the secret villain of the movie. It's revealed in the you know, the third act, just like in this movie. I think, I don't know, I defer to how Holbrook with a Southern accent over how Olbrook pretending he doesn't have a Southern accent, which is what's going on here. I like him in this movie though. He's a lot of fun.

I you know, I think unfortunately, because of the setup and the conceit of the movie, we don't really get to see the villains enough in terms of like them getting to go back and forth with Clint Eastwood, which we get to see a little bit of in the original and that's you know, one of the better parts of that movie is the back and forth between Dirty Harry And and the Zodiac Killer. But well, the problem there that will In that one, at least we could just tell the separate story of the Scorpio right on his zodiacin name only. Because because it wasn't like a who done it? It was a when will we get this guy right? More of a procedural.

This one is a story where it's like, wait, who's actually doing this? Is it this cop? Is it this bad cop? Is it this guy over here? Like until the fucking ends, So we can't ever really have any meaningful interaction between the characters other than things they would like leave for one another.

Right well, and then you know we have Felton Perry playing his partner, who again feels like we're just waiting for him to die is kind of what it feels like, and you know you see it coming from a mile away. They do a very again I guess, I guess now it's cliche in nineteen seventy three, maybe it's not as cliche as it seems now, But like the calling your partner who's not picking up the phone fast enough gag, like that's that's been done in so many other things subsequent to this, Right, I'm assuming it's after it seems like it. At least, I will say, at least in this case when when his partner joins him and gets in the car, he says, Oh, they're just betting on how long you'll last, because every one of my partners kill.

So it is like or. Leaves, he says, like one of them, or he was at one of them, like teaches like high school. Now right, yeah, one of the exactly, so they he knows it. Everybody knows it, you know. The script is well aware of that.

Well. I think in every movie, I think every one of his partners, except for the Deadpool, I think ends up dead by the end of the movie. Isn't that right? Pine Daley is in The Enforcer, She's dead? Is she dead at the end of the day.

Yeah, she gets she gets shot by an M sixteen. Oh my god, that's right. So I think I think. It with the exception of I don't remember who he's an. Eight What about what's his name?

Poppy from Seinfeld? Yeah, he might have lived. But I think the majority of the partners that were introduced to in every one of these dead Dirty Harry movies is is dead by the end, except, like I said, well, I know for sure that the cop in the Deadpool is Partner's wounded but not killed. But I think all the other ones are are are dead. But what's interesting what you were saying, Chris, about how some of these things were maybe a little more novel in nineteen seventy three and not you know, they've they've become kind of standard fair going forward since then.

But I kind of felt that it was a little weird for me to watch it now, because I'm sure this was kind of novel in nineteen seventy three, but I was couldn't help thinking this, if you had just trimmed a lot of the meandering bits of this, this could have fit in with any sort of police procedural television show that we would watch today, because ultimately it's just, you know, these cops kill a few criminals, he investigates, he eventually exposes the ring, and then they're all, you know, brought to an end. It's two hours, but you probably could have tightened that up to a good solid thirty five forty minutes worth of actual action. This movie is only seven minutes shorter than Surpaco. Well that makes sense.

I felt every minute of this movie in the room watch. Yeah, it's yeah, it is about a half an hour too long. Like here's the thing. The story itself is good, and I enjoy all the characterizations. I like the idea of Harry Callahan, these guys kind of like looking up to him and him com mingling with them something they're doing over on with the Punisher, over on Daredevil right now, him telling the cops to all go fuck themselves.

I like all the sort of that aspects of the of the plot. But then we also have moments where Callahan and his partner go to the snackshack at the airport where a fuck hijacking just seems to be happening. Like what the what Either start the movie with either start the movie with that das six mockiness shit, or like don't include it, like this shouldn't be like random stuff that you know Harry Callahan runs into. Yeah, it's kind of played. It's really just sort of played.

It's almost like played for laughs. It is that when played, it's not kind of played for lass eight is a gag. It is a total gag. Is it not. But if they you're right, father Blone, if they just let off with that and hit the ground running with some action and some intensity, that would have made a whole lot more sense than kind of he just happens to be.

It's it's like, uh, like Diehard, he's in the wrong place at the right time, Harry Callahan. I don't. Yeah, the whole hijacking scene makes no sense to me. Uh. And this is, by the way, on top of everything else, six years before the Iran hostage situ.

Yeah, well you could, you could still get away with like hilarious hijackings here and right around the same right around the same time that this came out, Right, how. Was the sequel to Candid Camera Hilarious Hijacking? Yes, you know, Robert Samchis won an Academy Award for a student film which is about like a shell shocked Vietnam vet who gets on a bus that a that a Cuban national hijacks and threatens to blow up if they don't drive it to Cube. It was just like that was just sort of funny stuff that you know, people were joking about. Haha, it couldn't happen here.

Look at any mad magazine from that time. I guarantee you there's stereotypical hijackers, hijacking buses, planes, what have you. You could You're right, you could joke about it back then, but it's it's not so funny post nine to eleven was. Wouldn't it be a shame if people, instead of using those planes to go places use them for harm? Nobody wouldever think they would do that.

Fuck. Yeah, it's weird to see hijacking as a joke. But again, you know, we're also watching characters go to the airport to eat lunch. So at the snack shack that old hey baby, Yeah he's retired there, he's a good guy. You know.

It makes a mean sandwich. Peter falks just out of frame eating fucking chili. Okay, like what the fuck is this? Like with his dog. Yeah, it's such a strange idea to be like, we're gonna go to the airport to eat like what, Yeah, that's I don't know.

It makes sense though, because this is San Francisco. So yeah. Can I just say though, one thing I noticed you if you watched the first film, it's one guy committing a couple of crime, a couple of murders right, and the whole city is on lockdown and everything is going crazy. These cops are annihilating people like they're not this. This isn't just that, Like, you know, this guy got off and now we're gonna go gun him down.

In Vigilante, it's a car full of guys, you know, it's not it's a pool full of people. It is a pool full of people. There's a barbecue, bikini, machine gun massacre in this movie. Man, Yeah, these are these are blood bats. Yeah.

Might be one of the best scenes in the movie is that gun them getting gunned down, because it's like, where is this coming from? Like it is a great scene. And that's what I was talking about. Some of the action sequences like are just so fucking well staged and like really impact full and great. But while I'm watching that, all I could think is, like every news agency in the world is going to descend on San Francisco right now, like every cop in the you know, it's it's gonna be a fucking madhouse from here on it.

And they play a little bit of lip service to it, where they you know, keep having reporters. A couple of reporters show up and like question them and such, but this is they're killing dozens of people. But doesn't doesn't the captain, doesn't he say that he's he's you know, he's he's not going to release it to the press just yet, or he's going to try to keep it under wraps. Like you said, he plays lip service to it a little bit. But I guess, how do you how do you conceal a pool full of people who have been been machine gunned?

You know, it's it's insane. Now you can conceal the three people in the fuck pad who get shot down? Yeah, Like that's fine, right, That's that's that's normal business at that establishment. But not at the Backyard Barbecue. The Backyard Barbecue featuring Suzanne Summers.

Was she in it? Yeah? She was, she was. She had a newt scene. God, I gotta go watch it again.

I do think that there's a little bit of a meander in the movie, and it's I mean you think, yeah, but I mean again, like the part those parts end up being interesting, so it doesn't feel as much of a meander, but it is, like you know, again. Like crazily episodic. Yeah, a movie for a movie with a with such a straight and narrow like plot line, right, where the hell are we going half of the time in this movie? Well, I'm sorry to piggyback on that. I the thing that I thought was the most egregious was this sort of thing he has with the woman in his building that kind of comes out of nowhere.

She doesn't really serve any real purpose other than to come on to Harry and kind of sort of be in jeopardy because she's going to open up the mailbox and there's a bomb there. But ultimately you could have cut her whole bit out of the movie and it it would only have made the movie a little tighter. I mean, she didn't really serve much purpose. I thought, no, I can I just say, oh my god, he's going crazy ripley gene everybody. It's my understanding that Millius turned in a first draft and then was instructed by the producers to address that very issue.

HB the Harry it comes off as sort of leering and coming on to women, like we should show that he is attractive to them. We need a scene where a woman comes on to him. But it's weird because it's like a partner or like a colleague's wife. Or something, and like they're divorced and everything, and they make it clear that he's a dick, but it's still like what a like? I mean, I guess God bless Millius for going, Oh you want that, I'll give it to you this.

I'll make the most bizarre scenario possible for it. Well, not just her, but the woman that's in his building. I forgot kind of about what you're describing, which is she's the ex wife of the cop that he initially suspects is behind all of these murders, This cop McCoy who it's They go out of their way, and the one interaction he has to make to paint him out to be this psychopath, he goes really he gets really angry, which, by the way, one of the things I loved about it was that actor is Mitchell Ryan, who I remember him from Lethal Weapon. He's the general, He's the one behind all of the nefarious happenings in Lethal Weapon. This movie is filled with people who would go on to other more interesting parts.

Let's say he was. One Callahan's partner is an OCP executive. Yeah, it's like baby food is yeah. Felton Perry. Also, Mitchell Ryan was in Judged Dread.

Yeah, that's right. He was the reporter that the rico kill. Another great cop based film. Can I just can I just dove back to the beginning of the movie. I mentioned it at the top, the worm logo.

I don't know what version of the movies you guys wanted, but the old Warner Brothers worm logo designed by Saul Bass, the three little dots. Oh my god, my heart skips a beat every time I see It's a great logo. I love it. I love it. It may it evokes exactly the time and a place that it's supposed, which is like early seventies filmmaking in the United States.

Speaking of it, and then it goes right into the fetishizing of a pistol. The entire credit sequence of this movie is just Clinton Eastwood holding a forty four magnum in front of a red background. Why this funky jazzy scorer is playing? Oh the Lolo Schiffrin's score is awesome, by the way, Oh. Yeah, oh my god, the movie would be much less without that score.

But then, like Millius can't like help himself. He wants you to know that he wrote that fucking speech in the original Dirty Harry, so he has him recited here. They do you feel lucky? I mean, but to be fair, it is like the thing it's the dirty Hairy thing, right, it's the I'll be back. But the thing that's nice is I would say each of these Dirty Harry movies kind of has their own line like this one has I think one of my favorite lines in all of action movies, which is a man's gotta no acilitations, which is a great line and is a really funny retort to everything at how Olbrook says to him.

Uh, but you know, hey, John Millius, I mean, hey, if I wrote that line that everybody was quoting from the first movie, I'd probably try to back out. Wrote sudden Impact alone. He did not, but he did write the line go ahead make my day. Yeah, that's him as well. Really, that's I'm not surprised, but I'm kind of surprised.

I guess, well, it's just because his name isn't specifically on it. But Millius Millius, Okay, Bubby paused. Basically, I think you're you're right, Chris. There's these iconic lines that people who have never even seen a Dirty Harry movie still know. Go ahead, make my day or any Do you feel lucky Punk?

Of course you're shit out of Look that's another good one as from the Deadpool. Also, is it like asshole? Opinions are like assholes? Everyone has one? Is that?

Also from the dead Pool? I believe? Wow, Yeah, each of the movie can't speak to I can't speak to Millius's authorship on. That one, but he's got all the other good ones. Oh, every great line from from the Dirty Harry movies is definitely him.

Yeah, yeah, well and again as much as they you know, are you feeling lucky? Punk is the one everybody remembers. A man's got to know his limitations. I think is just as fun, if not in a lot of ways more fun because Clint Eastwood's delivery of it at the end of the movie is pitch perfect. Also, who keeps them?

Who keeps the mailbox bomb? Just keeps it. It's like, I've got a mailbox bomb now, Dirty Harry that too. I love that he's just got it sitting in the back seat of his car, like all right, gotta love the man. Really, the characterization of Dirty Harry is really fun.

I feel like, yeah, you know, speaking kind of doubling back for a second, with the idea of them trying to insert even a love interest into it. Millius said that he rejected the whole thing sort of wholesale, because as far as he was concerned, Callahan probably only ever hung out with hookers because he was just it was just the job, that was it like, and he had no time for anything else. So the idea of him even trying to cultivate a relationship was absurd to John. Makes sense. Well, it's a genre convention, right, I mean, that's a filmmaking that's a filmmaking convention more than anything else.

Like, I don't understand why they tried to give him a love interest. This guy's a psychopath. He's nuts. Well that's why, because they're trying this whole movie is an attempt to soften the character and wash him clean from all of the right wing fascism that he had been labeled in the first film. I mean, one thing there in Zodiac, Remember the scene in Zodiac when when the Hult comes out of the movie.

Yeah, I do I do so much for due process. There, he so much for due process. I can't do it, Mark Ruffalo, I wish I could. It's kind of like pitched down John c Riley kind of. Is there was one thing I wanted to obviously dirty Harri's iconic cop, who is he plays by his own rules.

But one thing that kind of it was a little bit of a cognitive dissonance for me, is when he's eventually these road cops approach him to try and bring him into the fold and say, you know, where are the ones doing this? We know you're getting close to us, why don't you join us in bubba blah? But let me ask you guys this. What Harry does effectively is say to them, look, I'm not going to join you. I'm dedicated to working within the system.

I hate the system. It stinks, but it's the only one we have. But why would he a cop? Why wouldn't a cop of Harry's skill and experience not just say to them, okay, I'll join you guys and basically put them off of the sense and approach it from like why wouldn't he have known that that would have just made him a target to be killed and that I didn't understand. Oh that's a good point.

He did know, And bring it on, motherfuckers. That's what we're doing, is. It didn't come off that way though in the film. No it doesn't, But I mean that's the way it should have been characterized, because it's Dirty Harry. He doesn't fear anybody.

He deep uses a mailbox bomb, like you know he he is. I mean, this is copaganda, but not in the way that like he's beating up people that don't deserve it. It's just, you know, we're deifying and glorifying a cop who's turn on your badge. Cal Like that's this character, you know. I mean, he's a fucking asshole, but he's our asshole, and that's what makes him such a lovable anti hero of a character.

Yeah, it was because he and again Millius I think writes it pitch perfect. The character of Dirty Harry is better in this movie than he is in the first one. I feel like. I think he's on par and but I think that on par ness is what I'm talking about with this CNHP, where I think Callahan is to a fault, unable to sort of be anything less than who he is, can't get out of his own way. Yeah, basically, I suppose, But he was savvy enough to shoot, to use the cops gun and shoot an Aaron bullet on purpose during the shooting competition, so that he could do the basic ballistics tests against that bullet.

There was substrifuge there. He didn't come out and admit to them that, hey, you're a suspect. He was creative and he found a way to get the bullet without alerting them. But nobody came up to him and said, hey, why did you shoot that? Why?

Why? What? What is your plan here, Officer Callahan? Whereas these cops are like to join us, and he's like, yeah, no, I don't think so, guys. I'm gonna just do my thing, all right.

I just feel like he would have known that would have made him a target and made his job that much more difficult to bring them down and put his and put his partner in jeopardy, which basically gets him killed. He did get his part you did get his partner killed. That is out of here. You buy the ticket, you take the ride. Well, come on, Hunter Thompson, give me a break.

Doctor Gonzo here, jesus. You know the stakes when you get involved with the detective Harry Callahan and dirty Harry Callahan. I suppose I guess he didn't know, because he literally goes, what are they doing making a pool on whether or not you'll die a dead pool? If you. Liam Neeson was in that movie.

He sure was in Jim Jim Carrey and. Jim carry Yeah. I want to I want to circle into something that way again, we kind of alluded to a little bit thoughts on Clint Eastwood the actor, not the person, you know, speaking to an empty chair as it were. You know, he gets a lot of shit as a not a good actor, and I would say that within his reign he's a very good act He has distinct characters. I think he puts in good performances.

I think he can easily be miscast, but I've always enjoyed him. He is one of those guys who's more of a presence than anything, which is why he was so popular and so successful as the man with no Name in those spaghetti westerns, because there's something iconic and so stoic about him just just to look at him. But he's not somebody who disappears into a character. When you know, when you buy a ticket to a Clint Eastwood movie, you're not You're buying it because you know the man in his range and his catalog and he's always going to play the hits. I mean, one of my favorite movies of his is Heartbreak Ridge.

I think he's great, but is he is? His performance worlds away from Harry Callahan or Bronco Billy McCoy or whoever he. Was in Ronco Billy, Oh my god, a Bronco Bronco Billy. Or whoever he played in every which way but loose. No, but he's I agree with Father Malone in his lane, in his his his mold.

He's iconic. He's also a fantastic director. Obviously. I think he's probably a better director than he is an actor. But I mean, what are you gonna do?

He's Clint Eastwood. He's he's an icon. Well, that's what I was gonna say. For me, Clinteewood is almost like John Wayne. It's like, what the fuck are you gonna do?

When he's in your movie? It's just Clint Eastwood. Like He's got to say, he has very little range. Is more to speak to the idea of And this is the way I look at some actors. Some actors are like a restaurant that only does one thing.

They do that one thing really well better than anybody else. But they do the one thing and they do it really well. But they do the one thing, but they do it really well. Not every rests, not every restaurant has to be the cheesecake factory that has a fucking hundred menu item like or a hundred e out of menu like. That's not I mean, not everybody needs to be Daniel day Lewis or Leonardo DiCaprio.

Some people could just be and Clinias Wood feels like that. Then they don't make actors like Clinice Wood anymore. There's just that's not a thing. I mean, it is an Indian cinema, but not as much in American cinema. I mean, like Tom Cruise is one of those acts he can just kind of be and and him being in your movie is a big enough deal.

Look at Tropic Thunder, a movie that again, I would say, is probably Tom Cruise's best role in a lot of ways. I know, like at Father Malone's face, everybody but Clinias Wood, I don't know. For me, He's always just he is who he is. There's no pretense to it. Really got what I was gonna say.

Well, did anybody see him in the Bridges of Madison County because that I never saw it, because it just wasn't in my lane. But let me ask then if well, first of me ask did you see it? Chris, I have read the book. You read the book. I guess My question then is just for for you father Malone like that.

That's obviously that has that's worlds away from any of his other I mean, it's just it's a romantic picture. How would you rate his performance there? Just out of curiosity, because that's probably the furthest away from anything else he's done. I would say, I think it's great. Actually it's it's uh, it's pitched exactly to who that guy is.

He's just this like wandering photographer. You can very easily see Clint Eastwood being that guy as well, because you know, we if you know him at all off screen, he is a mister jazz, you know, like he he is interested in the the the fine arts and such. So I I thought he was good. You know, it's he's up against Meryl Streep, so if you know, it's hard not to uh to uh bring your game up with somebody like her on screen with you. Like one of the one of the great actresses of all time and can I can I say, Chris to the to the idea that like there are no more actors like Clint Eastwood.

I think that's because of the time we live in, because you could be stoic at a certain point, you know, you you could shun all media and you know, disappear and once a year there'd be some badass movie and we might get a little bit of a clip of you, you know, on a talk show or something. But certainly not like I know everything about you. You can't be stoic. You can't be the man with no name if I know what you just had for lunch. Very true.

K fabe is dead, everybody. For all you wrestling fans out there, I mean, I agree with you. It's hard in this day and age when you have a Twitter account now, it's hard when you go in. I mean, Clinis would can't even be Clonie Wood anymore. He went talked on stage to an empty chair for fuck's sake, like the mysticism behind him is gone.

Like you know, you can't tell me he's not a good actor. You saw that performance with that chair, right. I think Clytise was a great actor for exactly what he's needed to do. He does it every time perfectly, and there is something to be said for that, just like there's something to be said for an actor like Daniel da Lewis who can riff on people's stuff or can bring more to the performance and the role on paper than the role on the paper could ever bring to another actor. Like, there's something to be said for all of it.

It's you know, I think everybody has a l and some people's lane I think is pretty wide, but it's also very straight and doesn't go in a lot of interesting directions. I mean, clineasm has done a lot of stuff, but I think his best stuff kind of has the same flavor to it in a lot of ways, which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But just A Madison County as a movie I'd like to watch because the book is really good. It's one of those, like again, books I never thought I would read, and when I read it, I was like, Wow, I could see why Clint east would have been Clint Eastwood would have been cast in the movie because that character on the page is a loof, and boy, if you want a loof cast Clint Eastwood, Yeah, Like, yeah, there you go.

Cause he's not the Yeah, he's not the woman's husband in the movie. He's the guy who just shows up from out of town who takes pictures. So, you know, perfect guy who rides in on a horse from out of town. I mean, that's Clint Eastwood's character. I'm like most of these movies.

If you guys ever been to Caramel By the scene drove drove past it, I think, yeah, that's the town that he was the mayor of. Remember. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that now. Yeah, it's in It's incredibly chill there. I'll bet that is all I was.

But when I was on the Dizzey cruise, they asked a question in movie trivia about movie quotes, and the quote was get off my lawn, which is a line that you could only hear in the voice of the guy who says it, because that's from goddamn Grand Tarino. Yeah, but you said it, and I know, but then again, we're talking about Clint Eastwood, so obviously my mind went there. Yeah, but again, like that, that's iconic enough. And you know this that comes out in like two thousand and eight. I love that movie.

Man, that was a good me too movie. I liked it a lot. I mean, some of the stuff he's done recently is not not terrible, like I guess. I mean, obviously he's transitioned more to directing than acting, but he wasn't something as recently as twenty twenty one. So cri macho, so oh, yes I did, that's right.

But I forgot father alone that he's he was a big He is a big I mean he directed Bird. He's a big jazz guy. There was a show that Marian McPartland used to do for public Radio called Piano Jazz, and he was on Piano Jazz and he performed. He was actually a very very good jazz pianist, but not I mean that gets overshadowed by the macho, dirty, hairy man with no name persona. But he was very very knowledgeable about jazz and knew all about the history and could play his ass off, something that doesn't really get brought up a lot.

Wouldn't you like to see see a duel between him and Jeff Goldblum? Yes, oh, Jeff Goldbloom is well to talk about a guy who's become a parody of himself. My God never disappoints that. I know, no, I mean I watched I was watching Celebrity Jeopardy off SNL and when David Dukovney was on there doing his Jeff Goldblum impersonation, nailed it. And it's still the same thing.

Now it's it's the same thing. He's just amped it up because now it's just like now you're now you're a personality. You're not an actor any you're cast because you're Jeff Goldblum. By the way, I was this a dirty Harry. Clint Eastwood directed a film as recently as last year.

So yeah, Juror number two, it's pretty good. Last pretty good. Yeah that'll be the last one. Well, yeah, I mean they kind of fucked him, right they It was supposed to be theatrically released and they put it straight to streaming. It should have been.

The performances alone were really solid. It should have been theatrically released. But yeah, I wouldn't blame him for being sour about the whole thing. I would be too. May he's ninety four years old.

What are you gonna do at this point? Clint direct six more fucking movies? Asshole, Like gets up onto his chair and beats the shit out of me with the chair at ninety four years old, because I believe it, he probably still could kick the shit out of me. Like, well, you get to remember he also is one of these relics of the old Hollywood system. He was a guy that was taught at a very young age.

You show up, you hit your mark, you learn your lines, you deliver them, and then you get the hell out of there. And that's who doesn't appreciate that workman like approach to his whole career. Everything he does. You know, he during Number Two wasn't a super popular movie, but it was solid. I mean, it was directed well, great performances, interesting story.

The guy. I mean, at ninety four, the guy's still fucking doing it. It's amazing. Clint Eastwood was a contract player. Yeah, think about that.

He was still part of the contract system at the studio. Also, I don't know how tall he is anymore, but Clint Eastood is also six foot four. Wow. Yeah, Lidias was a fucking big dude, like on top of everything else. Shit, man, that's a big guy.

Like that's a big He's not that big anymore because then you get old, you shrink and not like in the Thumbulina, but you just start. You know, body starts to shrink. But six foot four man, Shit, that's a physically imposing dude. On top of everything else, Harry Callahan coming at you is a six foot four fucking you know, prime of his life in a Clint Eastwood. Yeah, I mean it's only three inches shorter than hul Cogan.

Like, who's a big dude? Like, not only that, but you got a six foot four guy coming at you with a fucking hand canon, wait right at you? Something is huge. And then the credits to Magnum Forest. Not only is he holding it for the entirety of the opening credits, at the end he points it at the fucking audience.

Well like like that seems to me like a big millions touch too. Oh yeah, oh, I'm gonna turn. The machismo of the movie is just it's dripping with like penis as it like guns as penises. Really like the fetishization of the gun and violence in this movie is I don't know, it's pretty great. I mean, it's pretty great if you want to watch a movie like this.

It's exactly I mean, for even though the parts of the movie that are kind of hokey and you know, vignette adjacent, Like the movie is very celebratory of the violence. Like you know, there's a part where he does a one to eighty and crashes it on into a guy on a motorcycle. Witch. The dummy in that scene was really bad, but the scene was so funny. It's just like, well, you know whatever, he's watching plow into this dummy on a bicycle.

Whatever. Fine, Well, like you guys said, there's a fucking hijacking scene that's played for laughs where the punchline is him asking a guy through a wall. He can't even see him, but the gun is so powerful that several bullets just plunch right through and kill him sight unseen. Hah, we went again. I mean, hey, Millius and violence, right, I mean that's the thing.

You know, Millius is rather anarchic, and I think, you know the usage of violence and I don't know, exploits exploitation themes. Like again, you know, Millius knows what he's doing. There's an intention here. You know, he's a smart guy. So you know, I look at these movies and I'm like, he loved the guy.

Loved the guy, Like you said, father Moone, he loves to be a provocateur, and I love a good provocateur. Who doesn't love a Burrows or a Hunter s Thompson, someone who's just you know, weird and strange and is themselves and in being themselves, they're kind of provocateurs. He isn't concurrently while this movie is being written writing Apocalypse Now, by the way, which. One of my favorite documentaries is speaking of Apocalypse Now is Hearts of Darkness. And there's a scene that where Millius is reading a deleted speech from Apocalypse Now.

It's his own words he's reading, and the joy and the happiness on his face, the excitement of reading, because it's all it's all jinguistic, it's about it's basically this guy finally turning his back on the war and going complete savage. That's the that's the point of this whole speech. And Milius is so satisfied with what he's written, and he's so right Fatha Blone, Oh, I see you laughing. Absolutely, he's great in that scene, and and yeah, you know what, like that was the point of that movie. Everyone was supposed to be stabvlaghed.

Everyone was supposed to the original ending of Apocalypse Now, is they the Willard and the guys on the boat join the savages, and then they all attack the army. It's supposed to be some huge psychedelic battle at the end. I mean, I would have preferred. That that's where it was going. Come on, I know, That's why I mean, like the movie.

The movie doesn't come to the bit. Conan commits to the bit all the way. Conan commits to the bit, so much so that the way Conan like uses the structure of the movie. You know that Conan is not a good guy from the opening of the movie, and yet we are trotted around with him throughout the entire film to see where he supposedly is a good guy, even though by the beginning of the movie, which which we get to by the end of the movie, it's clear that Conan is completely out of his mind, which again makes sense when John Millius is writing the carric Conan is a king? How dare you it is?

He has been thinking about Conan? Is he has a code? It may not apply specific, you know, perfectly to two our day and age, but he you know, he had a code that he lived by, and like Balla Malone said, he was a king. King con Crumb laughs. Atch of Frowens.

Milius too had a code he lived by, which was gold, guns and women. He knew, he knew how to be a provocateur, which I appreciate. I don't think the system was I don't think the system was prepared for someone like him, though. He purportedly on the campus of UCLA walked around at the height of Hippidim and end the war with a button that he hadn't fashioned himself that said apocalypse now. So he was saying fuck you to everybody all the time, And I think, but you know what, here's the other story.

Here's the great story about John Millius where he was in the same class with George Lucas, the same film class, and Lucas had they had an assignment and Lucas had gone out and made his film and gotten it done, and then a couple of the other people hadn't finished on time, and it came time to screen the movies, and the teacher said like, well, we're just not going to do this because he says, guys didn't have time to finish, And Millius got up and punched the teacher in the face. Yeah. Ever, change never changed, John. Yeah, how can you not love that view. He did the work.

You fucking watch it and grade him on. I'll tell you. And again I looked for the citation and I couldn't find it. But Triple H supposedly is a huge fan of John Millius because John Millius would often tell stories. You would tell stories in the world of action without relying on action per se, which I mean in a lot of ways, is like the entertainment side of wrestling, right, because sometimes you want to be able to tell a story in that world without necessarily having to resort to beaten the shit out of each other constant, which does make sense.

I mean, look for me, John Millius is someone who his voice comes through in everything he works on, even the things that he's just like script supervising or coming in to do a quote uncredited, rewrites unquote. It's like, now we know which part of this you wrote, Like it's very apparent which part of this you wrote. I appreciate that about him because again, like never compromising, who he is is something that is hard to. Find, you know. In that same Hearts of Darkness documentary, there's a scene where they producers send Millius in to talk some sense since Francis fort Copola because the movie is spiraling and it's getting longer and longer, and he says he came out afterwards and he was changed.

He was like it could work. He uh, yeah, he never changed. John Millius, Nope, not until his last breath, and he will be there will be a vulcary waiting for him. Yeah, a true any Viking wedding. He deserves one human being on on planetar ever deserves to go to Valhalla.

It is motherfucking John Milius. The man has a has a a naval vessel named after him. The US Navy has a has a has a US S. Millius out there. It's true.

I mean he did script rewrites on templem Doom, which is my favorite Indiana Jones movie. And I mean there reports that movie that I can see his fingerprints on, for sure. Shark shocks in the water, the black eyes roll over White Doll's eyes. John fucking Millius, Hey, I know what. I know why Quinn hates sharks so much because he was on the Indianapolis here.

Let me write you a quick speech. When I was deep sea fishing on vacation, I kept saying the Kitscher shook, Gust. I mean I mean that, I mean everything. That character is just John Millius on screen. Well, I mean no, but you know who is John Millius on screen?

Walter from Big Labouse. That character was written by the Coen Brothers based on their friend John Millius, and that's how it's played. That's sorry they are friends, I guess because Millius is still around. But I always thought that was kind of an odd pairing of the Cohen Brothers and Milius, Like, but I don't know, larger than life that guy. You know one other thing, if you can, if you can find this ninety it might be on YouTube.

Like there was a documentary about nineteen forty one, which Millius co wrote and produced, and the documentary about the movie is as long as the movie, which gotta love. And at one point there's an out tank where Millius was famous among his friends for doing a Bigfoot impression. He would get out in front of the car at night when the lights were on and like stagger in front of front of the headlights to get spooked and then run away. So Spielberg had him do that in nineteen forty one, and it gets cut, But yeah, I encourage everyone to watch it because it's really fucking funny. I was gonna say, unlike nineteen forty one, some of that is very fun So Eddie Deson specifically.

Oh my god, I could easily cut all of that out of the movie. Yeah, Christ almighty, I know, find one you carry the torch for nineteen forty one in a hard in a hard way. I will never get it. I know it's not good, but I'm still gonna keep watching it because I love it. Just that whole fucking all the miniature stuff is just so fucking incredible.

Again, it's a technically impressive film. Yeah. And you know Mark, you, Nancy Allen and the cockpit. That's all you know. I mean, come on, movie's a good movie.

I treat Williams. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff, but there's a lot to love about nineteen forty one. I agree Eddie Deson. No, not Eddie Dsent, God damnit. But you know what, we all know.

The definitive Eddie Dson can be found in Greece too. He was never never better after that. I agree. No, you know what, I like him in Midnight mad Oh you. Know what I stand corrected, You're absolutely right.

Wasn't that the first PG thirteen Disney movie Boom Alone Midnight Manis. I'm sure that's I think it was the first PG Disney That's. What Okay, I knew it was. It held some this theme or some some hallowed place in Disney lore. So scandalous that Disney has released a PG movie.

Oh my god, the Kingdom has fallen with David Notton and Stephen First. Oh my god, it's Stephen first ever cut Everyone's favorite Kent the Dwarf Drfman. Remember him in Up the Creek with Tim Matheson. Also featured in Magnum Forest. Tim Matheson Man the baby face.

Tim Matheson the the pivot in the movie. Because Tim Matheson is, in fact not a villain. Yeah, I was actually surprised. I didn't even remember. I assumed he was just just because he's so you know, he gives off that potential creep vibe at all times.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tim Mathison. You know, it's funny. If you go back and watch those old the original Space Ghost cartoons, He's the voice of the little boy on that show. If you go watch the old Space Ghost shows from the sixties, Tim Matheson is the voice of the kid on the show That's Wild. Yeah, man, how about that David Soul.

Oh, don't give up love David Sol. Don't give up. Remember how Owen Wilson played him in a Starsky and Hutch movie. Yeah, I do. Yeah, yep.

I'll always love David Sell because he's the lead in the Toby Hooper version of Salem's Lot. Salem's Lot. Yeah, that movie's not bad. Compare it. I like it.

I like it. I think David Soul is fine. I mean again, I don't just I don't think we get enough time with him, which is the real problem. There are too many suspects, and so we're only getting a little bit of this guy and that guy, you know. Yeah, and then we've got to spend time with Harry fucking hitting on chicks, and he's gonna fucking stop the hijacking and all these other random crimes that he just seems to run across.

Yeah, it's very die hard. It's very wrong place, wrong time, Harry Callahan everybody. But he's got a gun, a big gun. He likes to shoot it, and shooting it. He can kill people with it.

There's gotta be a fin at it's somewhere that's that's a tight forty five minutes of just nothing but the great, the best stuff from Magnum Forest. You could make that into a tight hour long episode of some police procedural and it would be great because this, like you said, Chris, the story is really good. It's just it meanders too much and there's too much extra stuff that maybe is the result of concessions here and there about Harry's prowess with women or what have you. But there's some great stuff. But I agree fall the balone I did.

My mind did wander a little bit during the movie because it's just too much extraneous stuff going on. I thought it's two hours and three that's a long ass movie. He likes should have been ninety minutes. Lean, Yeah, lean and lean and not meander ing. So anything else we want to talk about with Magnum Force.

It's not great, but it's fun. Yeah, and it's too long, but you know, there's worse things. HP thoughts on final thoughts on John Millius favorite John Millius film, favorite Clint Eastwood film. Since we're not going to get a chance to either of these people again this month. Sure, I think well, for Clint Eastwood, I think I already mentioned my probably my favorite Clint Eastwood movie, at least the one that I'm I'm thinking of right now is probably Heartbreak Ridge because it kind of there's some great action, but it's funny as hell.

It's got a weirdo cast like Mario van Peebles is in that and who's Tom. Tom Vallard is one of the Marines, which is, oh my god, totally bizarre. Something about it just works for me. But but as far as favorite Millius, the easy answer would be Conan because that's when I think of Millius, that's the first thing that I think of. Yeah, I'll go with Conan for sure.

Uh well, uh favorite Clin Eastwood movie is pretty boring. It's just the good, the bad, and the ugly. It's a fucking perfect piece of filmmaking. One of the greatest westerns of all time, if not the so I'll give. I'll give that.

That's my favorite Clint Eastman favorite John Millius film. Just I have to reveal it now. You can wait until end of the month if you want. You know what, let me think about that because I'm rewatching. So yeah, well, what's it?

What's it now before the rewatch? The easy answer when anyone asked me about John Millius is Conna the Barbarian. It's just boy, it's such a good fucking movie. I can watch it anytime. I think the last movie I went to the theater to see was Conan the Barbarian.

Conan, Uh, yeah, I would go with Conan for my favorite. John Millius, I mean, at least right now again at the beginning of the month, given that I'll be here watching the movies with you. In terms of Clint Eastwood and do you like the original Dirty Harry at fair amount? I think he's really good. I again, I grew up with those Man with No Name movies.

My dad really liked them, so I saw them a lot growing up. The Eiger Sanction's fun. That's a movie that I've seen more than I Yeah, right, what a random, strange movie. Good call. He has a lot that not art often brought up.

An Aigre Sanction is a good choice. And then I'm trying to remember it's one of those I think it's in the line of Fire. It's kind of like a yeah, that one and Absolute Power another one where it's like weird political thrillers in the nineties starring Clint Eastwood, Like why I kind of resonate with those, But the nineties for me kind of feels like the decade of the thriller, especially with like the Grisham like books being turned into movies. And I don't know, like the nineties was such a time of like a thriller that Clint Eastwood could be inbelievably, because again he's like just getting older and up there, but still can pull off like the sex appeals second icon Clint Eastood because he's a good looking guy on top of everything else.

How old was he in in the line of Fireman? I asked, So. That movie came out in nineteen ninety three, and Clint Eastwood was born in nineteen thirty, so he was sixty three six. Wow, but he looks like a fucking oh man. Wow, look at him.

And the picture on his Wikipedia is from twenty ten, that's fourteen years ago and he was eighty in that picture. Like, fuck, man, he's again good genetics are good genetics for a reason, you know, good for him. But yeah, he's I mean again, he's turning in great performances in a lot of kind of random things, But I think I don't know. I think for me, I would probably go with the best Clint Eastwood thing is probably for me is unforgiven because I think it kind of hits all the crossroads at once for a lot of things, and that movie has a lot of great performances that he bounces off of, which I think is also a good thing about his performance is being able to bounce off of other people who are also great actors.

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Actually, we're going Straight for your Heart father alone. Yeah, that's true. That's what I was thinking about. How terribly the opening credit sequences. The song or the credit sequence both I don't dislike the song.

Is it at that point and that we'll talk about it. It's no Living Daylight. No, it's no Living Daylight, but rarely are I think it's a superior film. But I almost chose Living Daylights just because it has a better song. Yeah aha, as they would say.

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