Season 7 · Episode 2

S7E2. She was one tough old mama: Foul Play (1978)

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S7E2. She was one tough old mama: Foul Play (1978)
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Fellow Weirding Way Media podcasters Chris Stachiw and Mike White are back on the show to discuss Foul Play (1978). Written and directed by Colin Higgins (Harold and Maude, 9 to 5) the film stars Goldie Hawn and Chevy Chase in their first box office smash! Hawn plays Gloria Mundy who becomes embroiled in a Hitchcokian conspiracy plot to assassinate the Pope. Chase stars as Lt. Tony Carlson who is tasked with trying to protect her and track down the band of assassins: Whitey Jackson, Scarface, The Turk, and Rupert Stiltskin aka The Dwarf. The film also stars Dudley Moore, Burgess Meredith, and Brian Dennehy.

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From the Culture Cast is mister Christashue, I have a steak sandwich and a steak sandwich Wait wrong movie, And from the Projection Booth podcast mister Mike White, Watch out for the Elves, Oh Burgess. Today we are talking about what are we talking about? And we're talking about foul play. Wow. Wait a second, hold on, I am confused.

I almost said parents. So now in October on your show, do you just don't do horror movies? That's right, you should do every yeah, every year like everybody else in October. All of a sudden, it's like I love horror movies. Right, It's like, no, the horror movie guy does something else in October.

That's what you should do every year. Although I will say this movie scared me when I was a kid, so oh yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit. But we are talking about foul Play, written and directed by Colin Higgins and starring the power duo of Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn. It is a love letter to Hitchcock snarishness in a way. It was a massive hit back in nineteen seventy eight, Chevy's first starring role.

If you don't count Groove Tube or Tunnel Vision, which, to be fair, I don't think we should be counting group. I'll take that back. I mean, the bit of him getting smacked around and then whacked on the head while they're singing is pretty funny, and the behind the scenes fact that he essentially got almost knocked out by Ken Shapiro is pretty funny. The movie also stars Burgess, Meredith, Rachel Roberts, Dudley Moore in his American debut, I believe, and Brian Dennahey for good measure. So I believe, Chris, this was a first time watch for you, Yes, and what did you think?

I enjoyed chevy Chase a lot. He's in one of my favorite movies, which is Fletch. I might be biased, and I'm probably a little biased. And obviously you just mentioned the Groove Tube, and we just did an episode on the Groove Tube in September on the Culture Cast and we talked about chevy Chase there, and I'll mention the same thing here that I did there. It's kind of hard to have a conversation about chevy Chase without going, oh, but by the way, like this guy torpedoed his own career and it's a shame.

And I will say it's even more of a shame for me now watching this movie, because this movie really shows what his range can be in terms of a comedic actor. But it's also the thing that I've never really seen and I'm not saying I didn't see it in Fletch, but as like a leading man type. I'm not saying he wasn't a leading man in Fletch, but it's different because that's a comedy. It's like saying, was Jim Carrey a leading man in all those comedies he was in in the nineties. I guess you could say he was, but I think we use the term vehicle less leading actor type designations.

But it's just weird for me to see Chevy Chase in a movie where he's playing the romantic opposite of Goldiehunt. All that being said, I enjoyed this movie immensely. Of course, if I came on here and said I didn't like it, I feel like I would be drawn and quartered, yeah, I would be understandably walked out of town, and by walking, I mean chased out with pitchforks and torches, because there's no I don't think anybody would say that this is a bad movie. I don't understand how you could. It's well remembered and well regarded for good reason, and everything about it is a good time.

I enjoyed myself immen saying I'm looking forward to talking about it, and Mike, I know you've seen it, what's your experience with the film. I can't remember how many times this was on television when I was younger, would catch it at various parts, and then also kind of mixed it up with other things, a lot of the things that it was paying homage to, Like I kept thinking towards the end that there was going to be a different assassination attempt, and it all had to do with like a symbol crashing, and I was like, oh, wait, no, that's actually the man who knew too much. So rewatching it now, all these years later, it does really make me appreciate especially just how dark cute Golden Con is. And I love all the stuff of her friend and the ardent feminism and stuff, which was hilarious.

I think it drags a little bit at times, but otherwise I just had a delightful time watching this, and it even made me go back and rewatch seems like old times, and I had a lot of fun with that because I also used to mix those up because I thought I thought personally that there were probably like three or four Goldie Chevy movies, yeah, only to find out that there were two. Yeah. I think when you brought this up back when we were talking about murder by death and we're trying to figure out, you know, what they had been in, and it's like, oh no, it's just those two. And I remember as a kid like they were box office gold so you think, you know, they must have been in like three four just every year, let's have a new Goldie Chevy movie.

But nope, just those two. And like you, my first time watching this was definitely on TV. And I don't know, probably this came out in seventy eight, so it might not have been on TV until nineteen eighty, but it was on quite often, and I watched it every time it was on because I got a huge kick out of it. The movie that I not confuse it with, but that I always pair it with in my head is Marathon Man, and I think there are some superficial similarities to the storyline of the innocent man getting drawn into this conspiracy, but I really think it has to do with the albino character in this Whitey Jackson clever name, and that guy that tries to take out Roy Scheider at the beginning of Marathon Man.

He's got those really pale eyes, So I think I just always think of those eyes, those Light Eyes in the same way. And like I said, not confuse the movies, but I think they'd make an interesting double feature. Well, that whole wrong Man thing, I mean that is just the basis of almost regreat Hitchcock, at least the thrillers, you know, like north By Northwest with the whole Roger Thornhill thing and being mistaken for somebody or picking up something that you don't know actually has significance. So I like the mcguffin in this movie. And I like that the mcguffin gets burned to a crisp and nobody ever knows what the mcguffin is.

It's just a role of film. Who knows what's on the film kind of like that. I am amazed at this writer director's body of work to know that he wrote Harold and maud In nine to five and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, which I understand was a play before it became a movie. But my god, that track record and Silver Streaks of Silver Streak. I haven't seen The Devil's Daughter, though, directed by our old pal Chris Jeno's Wark, not our old pal, well father Alone's old pal, our old pal By Associations right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't mix me up with that Jinneau's work.

Guy. Yeah. I watched Colin Higgins's last two movies both this year, The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas and Nine to five Nice, and I like this more than both of those substantially. I haven't seen Harold and Maud yet. Oh wow, that's fucking great.

Yeah, it sure is. Might be covering it next year maybe, who knows. The list has has not been set completely in stone, but it's already on the list, so yes, I will finally be watching it next year. But the thing I want to mention, it's kind of surprising because just to address what you guys were talking about with Chevy Chase and Goldiehn, why did nobody watch this movie and go this is the duo we need for National Lampoon Vacation. Oh yeah, I don't understand, Like I'm not saying Beverly DiAngelo and Chevy Chase had bad chemistry, but the chemistry is so much better here that to your point, Mike and Mark, I don't understand how this wasn't just a thing like the way sr K and Kagel are an Indian cinema, Like, how was this not like still a thing.

Frankly, there are many reasons why, maybe one specific reason why. That being said, I don't understand how this wasn't more of a thing. Yeah, I mean they're wonderful together, Yeah, like really wonderful. To get most of it for me has to do with her. Oh yeah, I think back when I was a kid it was really him because I was so obsessed with Saturday Night Live and all the actors, and I tried to see in the movies that they were in, you know, if I could, if they weren't rated R like this in nineteen forty one.

That's why that's still a favorite of mine. And like you mentioned Christ the beginning, if you saw this after seeing most of his other work, you would be surprised because it's not the bumbling idiot, except for two examples that I think were thrown in because it was Chevy chas in this movie if it had been somebody else. Those two bits. One at the beginning at the party where they first meet their meat cute and he knocks over all the stuff on that little bar, typical Chevy Chase slapstick crap that I abhorr. And then the really unnecessary fall into the water when he's taken her to his houseboat, and it's like, what was the point of that, just because that's what he's known for.

Yeah, that was that was real. I mean, it's very important that we have the meat cute at the beginning and that we established it he's kind of a jerk, and get a little bit more of her backstory, even while way more than his, just because he doesn't show up for like another half an hour the first full act, he is not part of other than that little beginning part of it, right, which is nice. I was surprised by it's nice though, because it's her story. Oh yeah, it's totally her story. Well, and that's what I didn't realize going into this movie.

Again, like as the uninitiated here, as the one who had never seen it before, I did not expect it to be a Goldiehn movie more than a Chevy Chase movie, which is I think is fuck it to both of your points. I think it's fine. I think it actually age is better because it's a Goldiehan movie and not a Chevy Chase movie. And again I'm not saying Chevy Chase's movies haven't aged well, but has anyone seen Modern Problems. Oh, I used to watch that all the time.

Chevy Chase has My Kicks. Yeah, that movie's a wild and he's the lead in that. You know, I'm not Again, there's plenty of good Chevy Chase lead movies, but I think this age is better because I think Goldie hon just she will not ever stop being cute and like, whatever this energy is, she still has it. And Chevy Chase just doesn't have this energy anymore, the kind of energy that anyone wants to be around. And it's a shame.

It is a shame, and there's it's it's almost like the elephant in the room. It can't not be addressed. But it's really hard to overlook it now given that goldiehn again is kind of a perennial still, I mean, she's honestly. The thing that's hard to watch this movie is just not to see Kate Hudson on screen all the time, because her energy is so similar to Goldie Han's. Like, and again, I haven't seen enough goldiehann movies.

This is the first Goldihan movie I've ever seen. Oh wow, So that's why it's like, I'm just surprised by how similar the energy is, like almost on the nose. Well, and this really put her on the map too, because this see why, oh yeah, it reminds me of Barbara streisand and What's Up, Doc, Like it's got that same level of just like you're too cute for words, but you have a level of autonomy that is also very appealing. Some guys don't find this level of autonomy appealing. They just don't.

If you do, you really do. And that's what that's the energy that Goldiehn has always had. That's why I say it's like that Kate Hudson has that same energy. It would lead me to believe the interviews that I've seen with Kate Hudson, she suffers no fools, and I don't think Goldiehn does either. No, you know, especially someone has been with Kurt Russell for like ever, you know, so another person that we the three of us have talked collectively about before, I believe or no, I guess no, yeah we did with the Off podcast maybe, but yes, yeah, but no.

I just her energy is so right right with the Dexter Yeah, yeah, right right. Her energy is just so infectious that you just can't help but be drawn in. I'm not saying Chevy Chase isn't like that, but it was the smart idea to make this her story, and he pops in from time to time. I mean, she was definitely in known quantity. A lot of people knew her from her days on Laughing, but she had been in things like Cactus Flower and Dollars Signed, the Warren Beady film, and Shampoo, the Warren Beaty film Butterflies Are Free, Sugar Line Express, where she was the star of the show.

Though I don't know how big of a hit that was. Definitely wasn't level, that's for sure, but this would put her into things like Private Benjamin seems like old Times, which I mentioned before, best Friends with your old pal Bert Reynolds, and then things like Swingshift, Protocol, Wildcasts and she just you know, overboard. This really picture her career into high gear. And she's been able to put some of the bad roles behind her, bad movies behind her very easily. And then you get stuff like House Sitter and Death Becomes Her.

I mean, she was really cranked these things out all the way into the nineties. She's a delight in this Oh movie and in most movies she's that delightful character that you just can't stop looking at. And yeah, I kind of forget about that until I rewatch this. And I mean, besides her attractiveness, and I think to your point, Chris, and especially in this movie where it's not just a bubbly ditz, right, she's on her own, and she seems to be fine on her own. That whole opening scene with her and that gal, her friend that's getting married.

I guess this is a engagement party. Looks like a shower or something. Yeah, and she's saying, you know, get out there and show some cleavage and blah blah blah. She's like, I'm just gonna take a drive and go see a movie by myself. And you don't get a lot of that.

Even in nineteen seventy eight they get thrown together. I kind of almost wish that her and Chevy didn't hook up on screen. It is a little forced at the end, like he's look, he's charming, that's the problem, Like as much as again, like he is charming, and he has the best cleft chin in the industry. For every time I see it, you shave that thing. I don't know that's gonna be tough man.

That's gonna be tought. But the other crazy thing is like watching this, like chevy Chase's voice sounds very different in this movie as well. I don't know, he's like, he's not hamming it up, he's trying to play straight. That's a little affect going on. Yeah, it's a very different version of chevy Chase than I was expecting, because again, I've really only seen the things that most people who have seen his like eighties stuff have seen Fletch Funny Funcation, Yeah, and in the vacation movies.

But you know what's funny is like I almost always forget that that's him in the vacation movies. Those are such their own thing as well, in terms of the performance that he's doing there, because they're trying to make him lovable, which again to me, always seems like a bad idea, because chevy Chase is at his best when he is keeping you at arm's length or further away, which is why Fletch is such an interesting character. And it's hard in those movies to take any of the relationships that he has with women in those movies seriously because it's like, this guy should probably not have anyone who's actually actively interested in him long term, a long stream of one night stands, because that's the kind of guy that he's portraying himself to be, and in this movie it verges on that, but they do kind of hold it back to make the cutesiness happen between the two of them.

But I agree with you, I think it would have been better if they had allowed him to be a little bit more of a dickhead. But he's kind of a creep. He's on the edge. Yeah, he's on the edge of that Cadha character. Yeah yeah.

But once that scene starts, I'm like going, wait a minute, this isn't from Caddy Shack. Oh okay, so does he have a houseboard in Caddy Shack. I know he's got the groovy slide that goes into the pool, But I'm like, this is very similar to that seduction scene in Caddy Shack in my head right now, and the Thai Web character is essentially what I think he should have been here, where it's just like more of an arm's length away, just more of a dickhead. And again, like it just suits Chevy Chase's personality. Not to keep commenting on the person he is in reality.

But if you're going to play yourself, you're known for being this person. I think it's best to just lean into it. Was he going to be Venkman in the Spuso's movie? Because it shares a lot of that same energy to me, I know, John Candy or Jim John Belushi were supposed to be a right, just that whole thing of like this, Really, Vinkman shouldn't end up with Sigourney Weaver. Is it any more palatable if it is Bill Murray?

I guess maybe it is. Yeah, Yeah, I've always liked that energy that Chevy Chase brought to those early roles. I mean I always loved him as like land Shark, those kind of things. His stint is the weekend update host. You know, I thought that he was great in those type of things.

But yeah, it's a little goes a long way quite often. Well, And he was also supposed to be in Animal House and Landis I think is the one that said hell no, he was supposed to be not Otter Boone. I think so one of the main friend guys, and he was like no, no, no, no, And I kind of understand it. It's because Chase can't get out of his own fucking way as a human being. And that's this I mean again, like I said, we just talked about it on the Culture Cast, like it is a shame, but it is not the first time, not the last time, and he's not even the worst example in a lot of ways.

Like no, we just talked about Mickey Rourke like kind of similar thing, like dude can't get out of his own way in a lot of ways. Like I think Chevy Chase is a better example, because Chevy Chase right now, like what is he doing dison community? Right? Yeah, if you weren't that guy, you'd still be having a career. I mean, you probably would have aged gracefully like a Steve Martin and been on a immensely successful Hulu show with Martin.

Short, It's almost like there's a third fucking spot in there for you, Ding Dong, because you were in the Three Amigos with them as well, you know what I mean. Like it's such a self fulfilling prophecy when you have to act like this character in movies, but you also happen to be that person in reality, and you can't keep the two things separate. In this movie he plays Lieutenant Carlson Tony, and as we mentioned, they run into each other at this party, and then it becomes Goldiehan's story because she gets wrapped into this conspiracy by picking up a hitchhiker, which you just never do. Bob Scott aka Scottie, who has broken down on the freeway as she's heading back into San Francisco. She's ready to take a chance again.

She's ready to put her love on the line. You could say. She decides to meet him at the movie that she's going to later, which I believe is a made up movie. We need to talk about that. Yeah, it's this Gun for Hire, but there, Yeah, there's no Chinese fisherman in this Gun for Hire, And yeah, the poster is something else.

This gun is mine or something like that. So I'm looking it up like a dunce and I'm going, wait a minute, this isn't even a real movie. Are they showing a real movie? I guess. So it's actual shots from this Gun for Hire?

Okay, thankfully Alan Ladd up on screen. Yeah, he shows up and he's in a poor state, and he keeps mumbling these phrases that she is confusing, and he passes off his pack of cigarettes to her. That has a role of film in it, and this leads to all kinds of mistakes and wrong man type situations where the albino stilt skin and scarfacer after her and that woman, the woman character, I never remembered her. She plays pretty prominent role. And I especially like that she rolls her eyes at the archbishop character, the one who replaced his brother.

They've got this whole long backstory. They've been working at this whole what was it like, anti church league for since the sixties, and this is the church is seventy eight. Yeah, very interesting, that very topical. Yeah. I was listening to her spiel and going, sign me up.

I agree on these conglomerates. I think she calls the especially the Catholic Church or that's mainly what they're referencing here, and billion dollar industries that are going on tax free. And I was like, hmmm, Yes, she had two names, so that makes it a little tough to remember what her character's name was. Yes, yes, Urda, I guess is what she's going by now. She's in Picnic at Hanging Rock.

I just watched that with my daughter. I was like, I know, that face from something, and I would not never have guessed it was foul play. It was funny. I just watch a video on comparing the Sydney Lumett murder on the Orient Express the Brana Murder on the Express, and there she is Hildegard Schmidt in the seventy four version, so she was on a roll at this point in her career as well. Yeah, you know what kind of an odd connection.

I think it's pretty interesting that the three of us are talking about this movie. The thing that this movie reminds me of almost the most, and this could be an interesting double feature in terms of the theme and the direction that the movie's going for Naked Gun. Oh okay, especially with Pope right, yeah, yeah, right. I can totally see that it's like an interesting double feature because this is kind of like the more serious Naked Gun. This movie is serious but not really and I honestly, I think some of the more comedic moments in this movie don't work very well.

I want to mention a friend of well, he's part of the weirding way Media Network has this show is Richard HadAM has Dudley more energy. Every time I see Dudley Moore in anything. I just think that's just our friend Richard. He and I watched Arthur earlier this year and the podcast got lost to the sands of time, which is a shame because it was a lot of fun and I had never seen it before. But what's funny is I knew nothing about this movie other than Chevy Chase and goldiehn R in it, and then I saw his name at the beginning, and I was like, oh God, how is he in this movie?

Oh? How is he in this movie? There a lot Yeah, I say, the moments in this movie that maybe don't work as well for me are almost entirely isolated to Dudley Moore. Yeah, which is a shame. And I think, Mike, you said, there's a moment where this movie, there's some time where this movie drags Sitting in Dudley Moore's apartment and watching him fucking dance might be just a step.

It's like, hey, check out this crazy guy, check out this funny guy. For like five minutes. It's like, you're over selling this dude way too hard. Arthur is going to do a better job of making this person a palatable thing for American audiences. This character is like I don't want to see you in anything like please go Away.

It's like very it did put him on the American map, though, it's so put him on the map. And this is the scene I remember the best from the movie. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we talked about that back on the murder by Death thing or at some other point, or maybe I'm just thinking of talking about it with my daughter because I have watched this with her and I said, this is the stuff that I loved as a kid, and it's so cringey. Now, yeah, not even just this sexual nature of it, Like I'm fine without him being a perv his acting. I realized, Oh, I don't think I'm that big of a Dudley Moore fan.

I watched that stupid body swap movie, even though that wasn't the episode I was on, whoa stupid coming out of Hot Jesus. Watch that with my daughter as well, and I'm like, yeah, I kind of think that his shtick is not for me, like father like son. You mean where he swapped bodies with Kirk Cameron. Yes, I mean, to be fair, the movie is set up for failure when he's swapping bodies with Kirk fucking Cameron. Yeah, it's a rough one though, I mean, for me, really begins and ends with Bedazzled.

He's so perfect in that movie. I haven't seen that in ages host that. It's really tough, And like, I remember loving Arthur when I was a kid, when I went to the fucking movie theater and saw that. I don't think I could watch it now because I just remember him being a shitthead. Yeah, and more than anything, I just fucking loved John Gilgod in there when he's just like I think I'm gonna take a bath, I shall alert the media.

He's great. I watched Arthur earlier this year, and I think it holds up fine. And I think it holds up fine because he goes on a truly transformative journey by the end of that movie, and I don't think he's as much of a This character is like off putting in a lot of way, but like it's the intent of the role, you know, But he's not a sleeze. When she turns around, so the whole setup is that she's running away from Whitey Jackson and Stiltskin goes into a bar to hide, stumbles on him, says take me home, and he's like, oh, you know, I'm about to get lucky. My wildest dreams have come true.

Yeah, this incredibly hot blonde sits down across from me and is demanding, and they take her back to my apartment. Yes, okay, where I apparently do not actually get any ass, right, right, that's the joke, right, is that he gets zero ass at all, right, which is why he's going to the spa. The Strokes. Yeah, they meete it. Twosome's the bar.

She's looking out the window to see if they're still following her for a very long time, as you mentioned, Chris, and then when she turns around and finally sees what's going on and says no, he shuts it down. Yeah, he doesn't keep going. He doesn't. Oh you know, come on, babe, all that crap. I mean, how unrealistic would it be to have Dudley Moore, a small man, come on to Goldiehan who's taller than him and could kick his ass.

That's the thing, Like Goldiehan suffers, no fools? Does that matter to guys? I appreciated that because I didn't really remember that. He's like, okay, puts his pants back on it, Like can I call you a cab. Yeah, he's actually embarrassed to the way he's covering up his heart boxer shorts and stuff.

I got to give the movie credit for that, and I think that's mostly due to the writer. When she deflates the inflatable set, I'm like, I think that's a stand in for his penis. Yeah, how about this whole thing too. Of how you mentioned her friend, Well, she's got the two friends. She's got the one friend whose party she's at, and she's got the other friend, Stella.

Stella who was she might have also been the friend in and cants up the music. I'm not sure. I'll have to look that up. I love how she is. All these men are after you and they want to get your pants, and you shouldn't go home with anybody.

She's basically like the cue of this movie. She gives her like the brass knuckles and this noise machine and mace, and I can't remember she gives her anything else but Gloria. Throughout the rest of the film. We'll use those things as the story progresses, and I love that she does. It's like, here's all the gizmos, and now go ahead and use these to defeat this band of because you also forgot the turk is part of that step too.

Yeah, you mentioned scarface don Kalfa showing up. I was so excited. I was like, Oh cool, I get to talk about Dan Kalfa in a context that isn't just Barney Miller. This is great. Well, speaking of Barney Miller, Maryland Soko was in an episode of Barney Miller.

Oh nice sexer, good episode. Okay, I knew she is familiar. She was and can't stop the music. She's in The Goodbye Girl, which is a movie I actually saw in the theater as a kid. Wow.

I think a babysitter took us for some reason. Yeah, the turk, Whitey Jackson, the albino Scarface, and Stiltskin, which brings in the whole dwarf thing. So that's one of the other little Billy Barty kind of why is Billy Barty in this movie? Is the question great that I ask you. We'll get to that in a minute, because I noticed something yesterday that I never noticed before.

That gang of assassins or whoever they all are. One of the cryptic things that Scotty says to Gloria is beware of the Dwarf, and that's what sets this all into action. And I think of Burgess Meredith. Well, I haven't even mentioned Burgess Meredith yet, who's an absolute delight in this film. Her landlord, who is also kind of a surrogate father figure and takes care of her, and if he had a daughter, he wished it would be her.

He keeps fucking up those lines about beware of the Dwarf, look out for the elf, beware of the midgets. They're taking over the world. Just makes me think of that opening I forgot to mention. Before the party, we get that little cold open of the archbishop driving up to his mansion supposed to be San Francisco, but it's a place in Pasadena. I forget how great that little opening, not even a montage, just that edit of when he comes into the room and opens his dresser and sees himself in the mirror.

Yeah, and then it's just like Turns gets the knife thrown at him, the needle drops on the record, the Mikado starts playing, and then the movie opens, and it's like, man, that's great, that's a great little what the fuck is going on type of thing. Well, it's so nice too, that the Mikado comes back in the final scene too. It's like, oh yeah, that's great, and the whole idea of the opera and like you said, you know, the man who Knew too Much and all these other Hitchcock it's not like high anxiety in that way. Is where we're putting a pin on it that these are all scenes from Hitchcock movies that were playing on But it's just that underlying hitchcocky and feel to the movie and having it the assassination take place at an opera, and even using San Francisco as the locale, which he utilized in a number of movies, most notably Vertigo Vertigo and even I mean you could throw on the birds there Bay Area.

That gang of assassins is the most interesting part. You mentioned don Kalfa and he shows up at one point and then gets dispatched immediately in a very dial infra murder way with the knitting needles and her hands right by the scissors, and I was like, oh, she's going to grab the scissors. And then I do like too where it's like, oh, you stab them with needles. Oh so is drug related? No, No, knitting knitting, that's what brings Chevy Chase back into her life and Brian Denahe and Brian Denahey is the sidekick.

I kept waiting for Brian Denahey to be a banned guy through this whole movie. I was like, Oh, no, he's so when is at the bad guy's headquarters, I was like, Oh, here we go, this is where he's gonna know. He's a good guy. I mean, Brian denna He's always a good guy, even when he's bat. Isn't he a bad guy in FX?

Though? Isn't that? No, he's a good guy in FX. Okay, he doesn't flip in that, Okay, playing essentially the same, he's just playing another cop. Yeah, because he seems like one that would flip very easily.

I gotcha. Yeah, okay, all right, FX man, I haven't seen that movie for fucking Heaver. Oh it's good. It's so good. Brian Brown, my lord, Oh yeah, Australia Zone.

I like Brian Dennahee a lot in this movie, but I was also expecting it to be like and now, like he turns the gun on Chevy Chase, there is thank you, thank you. I'm glad that it wasn't just me I'm glad we're all in agreement. No, I was expecting it too. Yeah, but then he gets kidnapped, I guess kind of and the third act of the movie, and I was like, Okay, well, I don't think he's in on it anymore, but I was expecting it. You know.

What's interesting is the amount of we don't believe you that keeps going on in this movie, because I think it they go one time too many. But I think that's also where we kind of have. The second act of this movie does drag a little bit. I think any of the dragging in this movie is definitely in the second act, not in the first or third. I think we're all confusing his role here with his role in Tommy Boy, where he fakes his own death then comes back at the end to kill David Spade.

Maybe I'm back. And then a rat crawls across the banister. Yeah, she's David Spade in the eye. Well, and that brings up the mcguffin, like you mentioned earlier, Mike, and Scarface gets it. He gets the cigarette pack with the film canister in it and then drops it out of his pocket, and that's kind of the end of it.

Until it gets tossed unceremoniously into the fire by bird merit of this character, and I thought for sure that snake was going to take it out of the fire, but then you see it burning up, and I was like, oh, that's it. That's the end of this mcguffin. Okay, and then the snake laughs. That's the one person It was kind of confused me as a kid, like, okay, mostly realistic film, and it takes a little couple turns into absurdity. And that's one of them.

But the other one is the scene with Billy Bardy, which you're starting to bring up. It was it just all of a sudden, it's just a Looty Tunes cartoon. Yeah, yeah, I ad min it. That's what I noticed yesterday for the first time, Like, okay, this has been playing it straight for the most part, but this just got goofy as heck with him getting tossed out the window and landing in that garbage cannon, rolling down that very steep hill in San Francisco, and then getting bazook It out of it and down the storm train. I was watching the movie with my wife and she goes, that guy would be dead like ten times over with all of his bones broken.

Yeah, and then he gets bazookd I think is the best possible term. I mean, it's fine. It makes no sense, but it's fine. It's pretty fun. I love the full sized stunt man that goes down the Uh yeah, yes, oh that guy was a little I didn't even notice that for a little Billy Barty to big Billy BARTI real quick.

So of course she mistakes him for the dwarf that everyone's been telling her to watch out for. He's great in this though. Her boss at the library is like, oh, there was a little man looking for you and got your information from your pastor oh, you know, a little person. I was like, oh, that's nice, that's really good. But no, it is Rupert Stiltskin is little man stupid code name dwarf.

Yes, yes, yeah. The police work can be brought into question in this movie as well, where yeah, you know, Chris, it's understandable that they poo poo her story at first because she's using all the dwarf and the albino and it sounds ridiculous, And when she thinks that she's killed Scarface and hasn't, and then the albino does from outside her window. I'm not sure how he got up there, but that's the stuff that scared me. I mentioned that this movie spooked me as a kid, and it all has to do with the albino and him popping up in places in the library, at her window, and she's got at least a two story apartment. She's up on the second or third floor, and then the body's gone.

So you get it. But I hate that in movies too, Chris, But it sort of makes sense because it sounds like a ridiculous story in this That's where I get confused as to what why did the albino kill Scarface? I know they kind of explain it. They take the body, they don't ransack the house to find the film, and yeah, that gets a little rough, Yeah, definitely. The other thing is once they do figure everything out, Scotty's body washes up on shore.

Tony makes that connection because she said that she had picked up a hitchhiker name Scotty. He ends up being an undercover cop. He makes that connection finally, and then they sort of figure out the dwarf connection with stilt skin and all these other things, and they've got a picture of like the three of those guys together. The albino is stilt skin, and I believe either the Turk or Scarface. I think scarface.

Yeah. Later on in the film, at the conclusion, Tony says to Gloria, you know you better come because you're the only one that's seen Whitey. And it's like you had a fucking picture of him, right, what are you talking about? It could be in disguise. Well, what difference does that make?

You'd recognize them just as well as I would in a disguise. It's hard not to spot the albino man walking bino man with the white eyes, yeah, which is not to me. No, No, I know it's creepy. If you're in albino. I believe your eyes are not white, that is not how that works.

But more pink, right red? Yeah, yeah, I was really hoping for more John Hancock in this movie. He plays Chevy Chase's boss, and there's this whole thing of like, oh, I thought you were suspended or something like that. I was like, oh, well, why tell me more about this, because I mean John Hancock was one of the classic movie dad type of guys. He's like right there with Reginald vel Johnson type of person.

I'm just like, yeah, give me more of this guy. I love every time he shows up on screen. It seems like some of his stuff was scrapped or something, because they bring up the suspension and he's got At one point when she comes in, there's a sign over Chevy Chase's head that says, don't talk to this man. He's on suspension. Yeah, they briefly mentioned he arrested the mayor, pulled over the mayor or something like that.

I swear he was wearing eye makeup, and I'm like, what, isn't that just a Chevvy Like, okay, that's just a Chevy Chase thing, right, Like yeah, yeah, you were mentioning it Begley the thing about like, oh him doing the slap sticky stuff. That's more of the stuff I assumed was just like the chasisms where he's like I always think of Fletch where the woman goes, you know, waynas Ds and he goes pumpin Taco and then sees Tierra del Fuego, which I mean, again, you're just literally just saying bullshit. But that's what I assume was more of the Chevy Chase thing, and he does it a couple of times in this movie, and it makes no sense. One of those lines being I swear he was wearing eye makeup. That's about as good as the that's what I heard line from Ghostbusters.

Yes, this man is on suspension, do not speak to him politely, is what the site said. There's a couple scenes in there that seem like they're either truncated or slightly unnecessary. When she goes back to visit Billy Bardi in the hospital, I don't understand the point of any of that. To show that he's not dead, Yeah, but like, do we need to see a scene of that, Like I just say he's not dead, Yeah, I mean, he's still great in it. How are you feeling so so?

And then when she walks out Dinna, he's there, Forge is there, and there's an eighty yard line where he's like, let's go meet Tony, And it's like, what was that the point to transition there to that? I couldn't have done it a different way. Noticed a couple dr lines where I was just like, oh, wow, you weren't on set that day. I think my favorite gag in the entire movie has nothing to do with any of our main characters, and it involves two elderly women playing Oh my god, that was so good. It's the best joke in the entire movie.

It's given no fanfare, which I think is what makes it such a good joke is it's just played completely straight and we are just watching two elderly women use the word motherfucker in gravel, starting with fuck and then fucker and then motherfucker. I believe there's a uh. I was expecting to s yes, So, yeah, she's spelling it gangster style. Yeah, exactly, and that would be with an a at the end, I believe. Yeah, yes, that's true.

Yeah, no, that's great. And I'm thinking, oh, how close are they going to get to showing that? And they cut it just at the right time. The f you is there and she adds the c K and then yeah, it's great. Yeah that Those two old gals are wonderful.

But you know, she's resourceful, and that's where we get Chekhov's brass knuckles, screamer and mace when she utilizes all of those to take out the turk and get out of that hide out of theirs, I know he would have been too young to play this role. But my god, I would have loved to have seen John Polito as the Turk reminded me of especially when he's got the fake hair on it. Just yeah, yeah, speaking to the Man who knew what's the name of that Cohen Brothers movie, Oh right, the Man who Wasn't there? Yeah, yeah, as opposed to the Bill Murray film The Man who Knew Too Little? Right, And apparently they called this The Girl who Knew Too Little and like Sweden or something, Ah, makes sense.

I didn't mind The Man who Knew Too Little. Though. There's another movie called It's just called The Wrong Guy with Dave Foley where it's a real parody of a ton of Hitchcock stuff, to the point where I think there's a miniature Mount Rushmore or something. I remember really liking that movie though a lot. They did a much better job than mister mel Brooks when it came to parroting Hitchcock stuff.

Yeah. I just wasn't a fan of high Anxiety. I mean, maybe it was the bird scene. I don't know what it was makes me gag. Even though I know it's fake.

It's a little much unsuccessful. I've never seen it. It's all right, But I've not seen a lot of Hitchcock either, so you imagine you probably get more out of it the more Hitchcock you've seen. Ron Carrey's in High Anxiety, and he plays a pretty good role. He's great chauffeur or something.

I don't got it. I'm glad that's like what I remember from that movie That and the bird Poop. And then I guess Chloris Leachman is that nurse right, right? She was better served by young Frankenstein though, yeah, oh yeah, I mean obviously the ultimate Hitchcock parody is any Brian de Palma film, but him burned his ass, right, I A. I'm sure he's turning off the podcast right now, sorry, mister Palma.

These guys, fuck you guys. You know how big of a fan of foul play I am. I just want to listen to a podcast it's in tears. That would be amazing. That is not within the realm of possibility, I don't think.

But we can all dream till gone off track? Here? Why are we covering this? Why? Why are we here?

Is? Are we here because of murder by Death, which we did so long ago, like a year ago? That's why. Yeah, Mike mentioned it as one of those spoofy crazy movies. Yes, spoofy spy movie, although it's not, but it kind of is.

I'd like to think that it's because of the way that we spoke about murder can Hurt You instead rip young which is a similar take on that as Murder My Death. From my understanding, the Columbo care with all the detectives, right, yeah, Youngest and the sopranos as well. Yeah, so Dudley other appearances, the massage parlor scene. Yeah, do we have to talk about Dudley Moore anymore? I mean the best.

I think it would have been enough if he had just come back at the end, and it would have been fun when he shows up as the director of the symphony. Like, I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Of course, that's who he is. Did I need to see him in the massage parlor? Do in another like?

No, I did not. I kind of liked it under the rule of threes, he really needed to be right, right, No, I get it from a storytelling perspective, but like, his character is just kind of one note. Unfortunately, maybe if she had just seen him in there, like and they did a double take at each other, but we've got to involve him in the plot and try to make him her way out of there, which he of course fells up. And I love though that he ends up at the police station and inadvertently grabs Stella's ass so she can get in that last little I love that character. I love her.

I was kind of hoping that she and him would end up together. I sort of imagine that's what happens after this. She's still outside the station and he gets let out and takes her back to his beaver trap. There you go. Yeah, what he calls it, this beaver trap.

I'm just like, oh my god. They just said that out loud, and he said that to her. I'm like, you're you're blowing it, buddy, You're blowing it. He's lucky that she's so oblivious and has other things on her mind that she doesn't notice anything that's going on. Like he mentioned Chris, he ends up being the conductor of this version of the Mikado that's opening, and the Pope is there.

And this is another example of they know that there's an assassination plot, but they don't put it together that it's the Pope who's making a visit that day. Yeah, it's all over television every single time they turn. Yes, exactly. Somehow Frank Drebin looks more competent than the cops in this and that's a problem. I was like, what is this Rosemary's Baby?

With the times that we mentioned the Pope come into town? Geez, the fact that they don't realize that it's like, we don't know who they're going to be assassinating. Really, really, that's what the film. That's the missing piece that the film canister holds. I guess the blueprints for the plan.

It's a picture of the pope, the leader of an international religion, and you don't think that that might be the person that they're trying to assassinate. Really Okay, fine, yeah, the anti Church League, and yet you can't ye make this happen. Frank, Yeah, I like that Stilla gets employed utilizing the library to figure out the what is the name of their group, the taxation Church something or other? Tax the Church League, Yeah, tax the Church League. But again I'm going to say, I'm all for biggest the real estate agency in the entire world.

Yeah, we just had not just religious peop but also scientologists turn this podcast. Yeah, yeah, I think I think that Goldie Han because there's the one moment where she's wearing her glasses. I think she's supposed to be one of these like was it ten Things I Hate about you kind of things where it's like, oh, she's actually really pretty if you took off glasses, okay, And I'm like, wait what but she only wears one time? Yeah, uh yeah. I think she could be wearing glasses, a scarf and a oh yeah face match and Marks knows, Yeah, you'd still listen realize she's gorgeous.

She's freaking adorable, adorable. Yeah, she could be wearing a gorilla mask and she would say, Okay, yeah it's you, Goldie, I know what's you underneath. They're all darn you got me, like, yeah, we know. I love the chasing that's broken up into multiple parts, with Chevy stealing different cars from different people, and they finally figured this all out at the Archbishop's mansion, and of course Bridges Meredith has to tag along so we can have a wonderful karate fight with Gerda or whatever her name is. The Rachel Roberts character, she was one tough hole mama.

We get Chevy I guess in his car or maybe the Archbishop's car. It's not a limo, but driving through those hilly streets of San Francisco and wipes out once it steals the farmers. This goes on for a while. This is the part that I always loved as a kid. With that and the Japanese tourists and the hippie who just keeps going far out right, I was just like, oh boy, that's pretty great.

I love it. The Japanese couple is the best part. Yeah, go jack bang bang bang. That was great. Well, it ties into the Mercado as well, so I was glad for that, right and I had it in my head that they out a camera during that scene, but I think I was just ready for that and it doesn't happen, so at least we don't get that in this movie.

Speaking of Rosemary's Baby, Oh yeah, they finally make it to the opera House and track down Whitey Jackson, who's hidden in the What do they say he's hidden? Oh yeah, because he's only in one of two places. Yeah, Organ Boys area or something, Yeah, the Oregon Yeah, right where the I guess where the pipes are. I don't know. That is a pretty great little chase scene with Whitey Jackson at the end through the what do you call all that stuff up in the theater the rafters, Yeah, the rafter and then him and that cop falling on the HMS Benapore, the way that there's that long pause after it comes down and everybody's just waiting, and then the Pope finally is the one that breaks the silence and starts to applaud.

Surprise reco Plozzo didn't show up. Naked Gun, Yeah, I must kill the Pope. I think the third act works. I think, Mike, you're probably right. The chase maybe does go on a little.

It's maybe it's a little much. Yeah, I mean I don't think they need to do it three gags, probably, I mean again law of threes, but probably two was enough. I was kind of surprised at this movie is an hour and fifty minute. It is a little just a tadlong, which is fine. I enjoyed the end of this movie.

Again. I feel like anytime we have characters fighting in a theater, it kind of always makes me think of all the other movies that do the same thing. Because you could even mention Naked Gun three, where they're fighting at the Academy Awards, so again it kind of reminded me of that too. I think this does it better for the most part. Yeah.

Actually, as you're saying that, I'm thinking of the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes's Smarter Brother, because I think that all takes place on the age at the end, and they're singing opera to each other and stuff. So it was like, is that this No, No, it's not this one. They all kind of run together after a while when you think about it, like they do go into the rafters or stuff like that, chasing the rafters, hearing shots people falling out of the rafters. Surprise, there wasn't somebody falling headfirst into a tuba Billy Bardi perhaps, Yes, he's there. They're in a wheelchair at the opera and he mules down the aisle and shoots out and then lands in the tuba.

Yeah. Yeah. And then there's a shot of the person playing the tubea going with their face really extended. It can't blown the air out. Yeah yeah, and you just hear the little squeaks around the mouthpiece or something.

Yep, it rights itself. So I guess I was also thinking of more of a comedy, but dirty work. The entire climax of dirty work takes place in a in a movie or in a theater as well, so I haven't seen that one. Yeah, the movie's weird oscillation between tones is the most apparent at the end of the movie, where you have like people actually being shot and killed in a movie where Billy Barty flew out of a trash can and survived. And I think that's probably where a lot of the weird second act tone shifts kind of come into play, because I think you could have gotten away with not having Billy Barty in the movie at all and just having it be weird that Mark Lawrence's character's name is the Dwarf and not actually having a short actor in the movie.

I don't know. That's probably where the only bloat of the movie is for me. But the third act I think keeps in line with the movies serious enough that people can die, but funny enough where it's not the end of the world tone, because there is that weird balance of like in a movie like space Balls, like none of the characters really die and it's a parody. The stakes and parodies sometimes seem like they're more dictated. I mean, like when we talk about Naked Gun, like characters die in Naked Gun, but it's really only the bad guys that's it.

Like the villain characters. You never really think like any of the heroes can die. And like that's this movie's tone. Like there's times where it's like, oh, maybe that could happen. It doesn't verge all the way into parody territory, I think, which is the success of this movie.

Ultimately, just think that we don't get too many movies this fun anymore, and I just really like how fun this one was. And yeah, to our earlier point, I don't know why this didn't start off a whole thing. Seems like old times really, I mean, it's not a sequel, it's its own thing. It's based on a Neil Simon play. I can't remember who ended up directing that one, but it works, and it works well as not necessarily a follow up, but another film starring these two.

And I don't think that we needed like a whole thin Man type universe. These two didn't need to become Nick and Nora, but that bit fun though. I think having these two solving crimes going forward, what did kind of a neat thing. Yeah, I wonder if there were any other plans to pair them up and other stuff I haven't seen seems like old times in decades, but I remember the chemistry there being roughly the same as it is in this and you know, they could live on that house boat and she can get embroiled in another murder mystery that takes place in her library and he has to help again or whatever. I wonder if any of it was Chevy Chase didn't want to play second fiddle.

We've kind of mentioned it before, We've talked about it. That's his whole thing, right, is not he has. He loved playing second fiddle. That's why he left Saturday Nightlight. Right, That's why Bill Murray called him, You're just a medium talent and exactly.

Yeah, Well that's and that's what I wonder, Like, I wonder if it's just at some point this guy doesn't want to be the person who's the romantic lead. He wants to be the person who had a romantic lead opposite him. I would understand that, given what we know, it is a disappointment because their chemistry here is really good and it's believable too. You could believe that she would find this person appealing and vice versa. I say that I don't like them hooking up necessarily, but it is understandable in the context of the film.

Well, yeah, that's where it needs to go for the next film. Right. You could almost rework seems like Old Times into a sequel from this because by that time they're split apart and she's married to Charles Groden, She's got her own life. It feels very very Irene Done and Carrie Grant type of thing, where it's like, Okay, now she's got her own life, and is he really the best person for her? Because Charles Groden, you know, kind of a career aholic in that movie, and it is Charles Groden, who I fucking love and he adds such a great spice to that mix.

It's just terrific. Oh, I love him so much. And he could have even been in the next movie, you know, the third movie of these folks going at it and solving the crimes. He could have been the reluctant helper and like, I can't believe he stole my wife away from me. You know, it is a very very rich film.

That's the one just so you remember where she's a lawyer and she keeps defending all these people who are really okay, they just need a little straightening out, so she just keeps hiring them to do things for like working at her house and all this stuff. It's very funny. And then Chevy Chase gets in trouble with the law in that one because he's captured on film robbing a bank. Because these two bank robbers, that's their whole scheme is to grab somebody off the street, make them go in and rob the bank, and then they take the money. I just remember that Knolls is in that film.

Yes, yes he is. Yeah, he's one of the people that she defended. And yes, her chauffeur in that one. And he's funny in it, right, He's very funny in it. Yeah, okay, especially towards the end.

There's this whole thing at a meal where they're serving the governor because he wants to make Charles Groden into the district attorney. And it works really well. I need to watch that again. It's pretty fun. It's pretty fun.

I remember enjoying it, but I think I was a little young. Yeah, I think I mentioned to you I saw it in the theater. I think our cousins took us or something. We were down south visiting them and a little over my head, but I remember, oh yeah, enjoying bits and pieces of it. And it was into Chevy Chase.

So it definitely was way too old for me when I saw it back in the early eighties, so I totally can get that. I had to say, the house that they live in, I'm going to have to go back and look. But the house that they live in in seems like old times. So seems like the archbishop or whoever that guy is, and you were talking about that pacady in the house. It so looks like that to me.

And that was the other She goes to the New Art to see this film, and I'm like, they're one in San Francisco. They filmed it at the one in La But I've always just associated the New Art with the Eraserhead having it's opening there back in around this time actually, And so I don't know if there actually was one in San Francisco, if they just were like, you know, fuck it, it's on the Marquee, So we'll just say there was not. Okay, I didn't think so, but and I bet Chuck McCann didn't work there either. Yeah, No, Chuck mccannon was better known as being a projectionist. Anyway, it's a deep cut.

That's a deep The only thing i've seen Chuck mccannon is in The Aristocrats where he tells one of the aristocrats jokes. I have not seen him in anything else. Well, he was in a movie called The Projectionist. I can't remember, early eighties. I think there was a very early role for Brodney Dangerfield and Chrissy's going to show up least once, if not twice, in Colombo where he plays a projectionist.

Yeah. Actually, I think it's going to be very soon for us to see him show up in that. Oh he's the theater manager in this. I get you right, I'm missing the joke here. Okay.

Sorry, That's why they call that one away, Homer, because you only get it all the way home. But I am home, Glenn, Thank you for recognizing that reference. Alrighty guys, anything else? Give us foul play too? Chevy Chase and goldiehun are still alive, do it you?

Cow you give us foul play too? Wouldn't that be interesting? Fowler play? How many years later? Are we now, Oh Jesus, well, in five years it'll be fifty, so forty five.

Wow. Wow it still holds up. Yeah, it holds up. It's not problematic at least it's got that going for it. Thank you for inviting me on your show to talk about this movie.

Not that I wouldn't have ever watched it, but it was definitely something I'd seen the box art enough time and not realizing chevy Chase has a gun in his pocket and he's not just happy to see me. I didn't realize that there's a gun in the poster that like is being shot. Oh, like yeah, I didn't realize until I was like, oh okay, because again I knew nothing going nothing about this movie. Yeah. I never really picked up on that either, but that he has a gun and that's going on.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Like, if I was being hugged by goldiehan my gun might go off as well. Probably, Yeah, it happens to every man. Goldiehan Is is actually really good in that Netflix Christmas movie where she's opposite Kurt Russell. It's actually really cute.

I think that's all she does these days is just play missus claws next to her partner and can't blame her for that. No, and no, they're adorable together, and Kurt Russell is kind of like a I don't know, Kurt Russell is one of those just like perfectly wholesome actors in a way that like I feel like he gets overlooked for Tom Hanks, but I think Kurt Russell is as wholesome, if not more so, because of how his career started and he's kind of been not like wholesome throughout, but like in a way, like I always think of Kurt Russell as like put that guy on a pedestal in a lot of ways, like as like an example of a really not just a quality American actor, but I think a quality representative of like the acting community as well.

So I think we're all a huge fan of Kurt Russell for different reasons and from different movies and things. But him and Goldiehan together in that movie is just very adorable. Yeah, they're cute. They're very cute. It's like seeing someone's parents or grandparents like, oh, look at them, you know, and then seeing her in this it's like, oh, you used to be like younger and adorable.

Now you're just older and adorable. Nothing has really changed, right, Well, when you're not over here visiting me, Chris, what's going on over at the culture cast talking about movies once a week right now, since it's October, horror movies because you know, I'm just like everybody else. I followed there. Oh yeah, bos the trends. Actually this might not come out until November, so okay, what's going on in November?

Over the movie is about food? All Thanksgiving? Yes, yes, well I guess so. Yeah. Coincidentally, I guess the one month of the year where it's like the food holiday.

So we're talking about food movies. So bet Bett's Feast, the Chef, the thief, the cook and her lover. Oh the chef, the wife, the wife. Oh yeah, a thief. There we go with I need to watch that again with r I p rest in Peace.

Michael Gambon. Yeah, but the Incredible Island were in that movie. Oh my god, never seen it. So I'm on a cannibal movie kick, so I might as well throw that one in. You're in for a treat.

Did I just spoil it? No? I know it's about eating people or eating something, but yeah, so that's what's going on. At the culture Cast. But just go over to weirding Way Media, where you found this show and so many other fantastic shows to be checking out and spending your time listening to and Mike what's going on in November over on the projection booth.

In November, I'm probably going to be releasing a lot of sh October titles just because I'm so fricking behind us Halloween year. Oh yeah, you're doing September right now? Little yeah? God, yeah, I just had somebody email me last night and go, where's the Shoctober titles? Did I'm not really confused?

Oh yeah, yeah, So I went ahead and I fired. Yeah, I hired somebody to do some editing for me. So I'm hoping to release two episodes a week for all of November and catch up. So fingers crossed. Can you mention any titles or are we being secretive?

Oh no, no, no, it's it's all out there for October. In November, I'll be doing things like the Keep, Island of Lost Souls, some of the other ones, A Virgin among the Living Dead. Oh, and there's one other that I'm not remembering. It's not Sonatane. Oh, it's made by ites doc.

So, yeah, another film I haven't seen in decades. Yeah, it had been a long time for me as well. Last time I saw it was at the movie theater itself. Yeah, I think that's the last time I saw the Cook at all. Well maybe not, maybe I rendered at once.

Yeah, that's the only place I saw that for a long time before we did an episode. Alrighty, well, thank you both for joining me on this episode, and thanks to everyone for listening. Head over to weirdinwaymedia dot com for all of these shows, plus the other shows that we all host. And don't forget. Don't forget what what?

Well, what happens every time? Bro? I'll forget what fuck? Or milk stick of butter? What honey?

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