About this episode
On this episode, Kulturecast's Chris Stachiw is joined by screenwriter Richard Hatem to talk about the final(?) film in the Dhoom franchise starring the one and only Aamir Khan: Dhoom 3. Magic, guns, and twists abound in this wild entry into the action franchise.
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Weird in wad. Hello everyone, and welcome to the Bollywood Cinema Club, where we take a look at Indian cinema every other week. I am the host of the Culture Cast Christasio, and I will be your guide through this episode of the Bollywood Cinema Club. I am joined on this episode. You've heard him here before, You've heard him on the Culture Cast.
If you've listened to the first two Doom episodes, he's been here through this journey of Doom. Your friend of mine, one of the co hosts of Rankin on Bass Richard, had him Doom's Joy Oom Doom, Doom, Doom Doo. It's the earworm. It really is like such, it's such an earworm, and it was more so than in the other two movies. I feel like, yeah, yeah, no, no.
The Doom two really got me because they do all like a big song at the beginning. I think, yeah, with Rushan dancing around in the in the industrial warehouse. Yeah, oh my god. We're not here to talk about Doom two, though, we are here to talk about Doom three, the supposedly final installment in the Doom series. The film came out in twenty thirteen, so let's assume ten years on we're not getting any more Doom films, but yeah, we're gonna be talking about twenty thirteen's Doom three.
So the film is directed by VJ. Krishna Akcharia and its stars Abishek Bakschan and Ude Chopra as you would expect if you've seen in the first two films, but it can't be forgotten that this film is essentially Amir Khan taking over the Doom franchise. It also stars Amir Khan and Katrina caf along with an extended cameo from the always fantastic Jackie Shroff. Amir Khan plays well spoilers at the top here this movie is ten years old. He plays two roles in this movie, Sahir and Sammar Khan, two brothers who take it upon themselves to get back at those dirty bankers in Chicago of all places, and abi Schek Bakhchan and Ude Chopper are back as Jai and Ali to take down the one and only Amir Khan, the most high profile Indian circus act runner in Chicago.
I'm trying to do the faces that oh my God, Ramar does, Oh dear God, heaven a couple of things at the top before we talk about the movie. Amir Khan is playing a developmentally challenged character in this movie, which I think we needed to get out of the way at the top, and we're going to have to navigate talking about that as best we can. But they say the word retarded in the movie several times, never really to his character, but they mentioned it. So it was kind of just at the top. If that's something that upsets you where you're not a fan of just know that there is a character in this movie that is a serious character who is developmentally disabled.
Well, you know what was weird about it was that they we say that because in the subtitles it was written, you know, a character would say, Hey, you know, he's retarded. And so that's a word that struck you and I as being pretty harsh and antiquated. Okay, but we don't know the actual translation. And I will say this weirdly, I noticed a drop in the quality of the subtitling. I actually think the previous film had better subtitles.
These seemed a little off for some reason in their in their phrasing and in the way they put ideas across, almost like whoever did these subtitles didn't have the facility with both languages that the person who did the first movie and the second movie did, so I would almost even say I almost can't blame the movie for this. In the actual movie, they may have used a slightly more respectful phrase to describe that character. I wouldn't be surprised given the character who says it, though, because the character who says it is Oude, the kind of looser, looser of the two characters. But yeah, again, it's just it. It's it's a role that I don't know if a mer Khan would do.
Now, let's just put it that way. Well, you know what they say in Tropic thunder right, he never go never go full. But he didn't go full. He was like, I literally I was watching that going. I mean, it took me a while.
Well, and and again we're assuming you've seen the movie, so we're just kind of jumping into the discussion. But there were scenes where it was more pronounced than in other scenes. Right, So depending on the day they were filming, he was either really into it or he was tempering it a little bit. There were times when it seemed but I was like, oh, whoa. Okay, I've seen the in my mind, I'm like, Okay, his brother is a little slow, right, That's how I was gonna write.
And that was that. Again, that's the movie way of doing it. He's slow. That's what nine times out of ten, that's what you would say, right, developmentally challenged. I like that mental disability.
That's good too. But then but just as I was going, oh, I get it, that's that's what's going on here, then after that moment, there were scenes where it was so pronounced that that I was like, wow, okay, so they're making a fit. This isn't subtle. This is a drastic, separate character, which is fine. And by the way, I would like to add in by saying, Amir Khan is great.
And I loved both characters. I mean, I had tremendous affection for some are so I didn't find the performance insulting or off putting. I was like, I get this. I get the kind of character he's playing, the kind of person he's playing a little bit emotionally naive, big big heart, you know, none of the cynicism and and sort of Macavelian, you know, a tactician of of Shir so I was I was happy in the company of either of these characters. So yeah, let's let's talk a little bit about tell me your your thoughts sitting down to watch a mere con leading Doom three, because for me, that's the thing that I think we really have to also get out in front of is it's it's an a mere con movie, and this is your first Amir Khan movie.
Like the fact that Amir Khan it I don't like it. Like imagine if Fastened the Furious one and two just at who they had and then in Fast and Furious for the Rock showed up and took over the franchise. It's the same. It's it's almost identical because Amir Khan is the focus one percent of this movie. Well, that was the interesting part is that that was also a facet in Doom too, right, the bad guy, it's the bad guy's story, right.
I think it's more here though, than it's ever than it's ever been in the first two. Well, you were complaining or I don't know if you're complaining remarking observing that in Doom two, Ali and Jai were almost beside the point, right, and I was sort of like, no, I don't think so. I think that there was a lot going on. You know, ali had, you know, his crush on on the female lead and or the female lead's sister. She played a double role.
I'm like, I get that, you know, there's something going on for our main characters in this one. I had that feeling they are almost not necessary. They are nothing's really going on with them. They're just there to keep the investigation going so we can cut back to scenes of Amir Khan and Katrina kaff as Aliyah and track those relationships. There really didn't seem to be any any other story going on for our two main guys, right well, and that's you know, that's the thing that this movie is kind of interesting.
You've kind of already mentioned it in the second movie. I totally thought that Abhishek and Ude Chopper work afterthought, like I said, here, it's not even their movie. This really has a one hundred percent different tone. It's a different kind of movie. It's asking different things of the audience in a way.
It's not nearly as lighthearted. It's very serious in a lot of ways. Like there's moments of fun. But I don't think that this movie is nearly as kind of enjoyable to watch as the first two, because I think the first two are doing different things and expecting different things, and the audio at the time has different expectations. It's coming on twenty thirteen.
Those movies are coming out two thousand and four, two thousand and six, within two years of each other, and then you have a huge gap of time where the genre has changed so much. This movie is a It should never have been called doom. It would have been fun if they had cameot in the movie as their characters, But to call it doom is to tell you of an expectation that is never met. Well, yeah, the storytelling is very elevated. The characters are larger than life.
They're they're mythical, they're they're immortal, they're shakespeareanced. Yeah, I mean it's like you're you're watching people do things that human beings can't do. So it's as it's sort of in the in the old fashioned James Bond kind of the guys I'm Killable right world, which is fine. I mean, I think I think that's a hallmark of this series of films. I think that I agre with you the enjoyment this was a drama.
Yeah, so I enjoyed it as a drama, and I'm you know, Amir Khan is a great actor, and I was I was happy to watch, but it was not the same kind of experience as Doom one and Doom two, which were clearly like, Okay, we are high octane, you know, crazy balls to the wall, over the top action and every ten minutes there's either gonna be or every five minutes either a giant musical sequence or a giant crazy action sequence that's gonna take your breath away. This one, pace is different, tone is different. There are action sequences, there's a couple of musical sequences, but even those were not as present as they were in the first two. Well, and that you know. Heather and I recently talked about the director's film that came after this one that features Amir Khan and Katrina kef and Amir Khan is in a top in that movie, not a bowler cap, is in a top hat, but he's playing a Jack sparrowesque character in a kind of period piece high seas British versus kind of the Pirates of that it's called Thugs of Hindostan.
It's actually a lot of fun. It's kind of what this movie should have been in a lot of ways because this movie is is is just so different, and like you said, it's a drama. It's not an action movie. There's there's some action, but I don't think that's what the movie's concerning itself with, which is perfectly fine, but it just it sticks out like a sore thumb if you're calling a doom three. Yeah, And it was also I mean, and I get, I love the evolution and I would never fault a sequel for trying to, you know, take us into new territory, which this one did quite literally with Chicago.
But every time it's like every time Ali showed up, I sort of felt like, oh, right, he's in this movie, right well, Like so I watched, you know, I was watching for when we meet Jai Dixon and Ali again in this movie, right, yeah, thirty minutes? What into this film? It takes twenty seven minutes and thirty seconds to meet the two of them. You have the intro scene with what you could not convince me that that's not just Amir Khan deaged into a child. That actor is so convincing as child Amir Khan.
You can't convince me that they just didn't go back in time and get Amir Khan as a child and have him do it and then put him back. He's so convinced. It's so long to make this movie. They had to build the time machine first, then production could begin, right, But you have not just one scene with Amir Khan's character giving him kind of his setup, but then you have a scene where he heists, which we see at the beginning of the last two movies. You have the high scene, but we have the preheist scene, then the high scene, then a soft shoe performance by Amir Khan, and then he's doing his best Michael Flatley surprised he didn't sing.
And then we finally get to the point where we're introduced to the characters from Doom that so many people theoretically or here for That's the thing this movie. You if you were watching this movie, you went to this movie because mir Khan was in it. Yeah, I guess so, and and oh that's that's that's totally what it is, like one hundred happened, you know, to the degree that you can educate me on what his sort of persona in films like who is he the equivalent of Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt? Or Tom Cruise is the equivalent of him, if he, if he tried, if he, if there were one hundred Tom Cruises. Amir Khan is like Shahru Khan and that there are.
There is not really an American equivalent because we don't treat our actors that way in this country. People don't revere actors the way Amir Khan is revered. He is like maybe Brad Pitt or George Clooney are close, but not really like the the star power and the charisma and the cult of personality surrounding the bigger stars in Indian cinema. Shahru Khan, Amir Khan, people like them are such big stars that we don't really have an equivalent, And to call an equivalent in our film industry might be to diminish how big of a deal they are in their own industry. I guess I get that.
I guess My question almost is is he considered an action star or a dramatic actor or everything? Everything? He transcends everything. He Most recently the film that he was in was Lal Singh Chada, which is a produced by Paramount and maybe even involving Tom Hanks's hand in production. It is a Indian sanctioned Bollywood remake of Forrest Gum and he is the lead character.
Amir Khan plays the Forrest Gump character. Movie was not very successful. It kind of actually bombed big time. But that should give you an idea of his visibility within Indian cinema. If he's being cast in that role, that's kind of one of the quintessential American cinema roles of the last thirty four years.
Right. Well, what's interesting is that again you're talking about a character with a diminished mental capacity. Uh huh. So this was sort of the audition and it was like, hey, remember that one character I did in Doom three, Okay, it'll be a version of that. Well, and that's the funny thing because a film that came out the next year after Doom three p Q, which is another Amir kan vehicle where he plays an alien that comes to Earth that then gets embroiled in the question of why doesn't God help me if I'm asking for God's help?
An Alien's an alien's journey of that question because he doesn't even understand what God is, but in that movie, he's also playing kind of a innocent or simple character. So I mentioned, like, Amir Khan wouldn't take that role in twenty twenty three as tongue in cheek because I had to mention the Forest Gumm film that he was literally in last year. So it's but it wasn't that successful though. It was kind of more or less critically panned, which is shocking because Amir Khan, for the most part, every time he does something it's a it's an event. Yeah, I was gonna say I found I loved his performance in both roles, found him to be extremely charismatic, but did not And he's in obviously great shape, but he didn't strike me as like, oh, and he's also a model, you know.
It's it's like, yeah, he's he's a good looking guy, but he's a unique looking guy, like like there's there's elements to his face that make him like, oh, okay, he's not just a pretty face. It's like, all right, he's interesting, but so so it's it's funny that he's that like the level of stardom you're talking about maybe is achieved because he has a level of vericit versa Milton, but also versatility, so he can play different roles and you're not just thinking okay, but really, I'm just looking at a good looking guy who works out a lot. Oh look, it's Arnold Swarzenegger pretending to be somebody's dad. I never believe for a second that Arnold was actually that kid's dad. Jingle all the way, like, it's just Arnold Twartzenegger and that family is whatever.
Like Amir Khan, he seamlessly invades a role and takes it over and becomes it in a believable way, even if it is kind of a little bit of a put on. I mean, I like that he's in this movie obviously for Thique Roshan and Doom too. He's a huge star now Forrithik Roshan was he was at the time then, but massive star now. There's a rumors that he's going to be cast in the essentially the MCU equivalent in Indian cinema, the Ostra Verse. He's going to be cast as the big bad in that franchise.
There's rumors that that's where his career is right now. But I mean that's a big deal for someone like him being cast opposite effectively Iron Man Captain America in their Marvel movie as the first big villain. Pretty high visibility for him as an actor. Amir Khan, like Amir Khan in a lot of ways, didn't need this movie. This movie, and I'm not sure that this movie needed Amir Khan's kind of of what I'm driving at.
Like Prithique Roshan was so good in the last movie, I didn't need someone of hah Ru Khan's level to be in a Doom movie for it to be good. Cha Ru Khan is just like Amir Khan. He's just in that same breath you mentioned. Salmon Khan, Amir Khan, Chahru Khan, they're the pinnacle of the cons of Indian cinema. I don't think that this movie needed someone of his caliber in this movie, and I don't think the I don't think he needed it, and I know the movie didn't need it because we enjoyed those first two movies a whole hell of a lot without someone of the god tear caliber of actor.
Well, I wonder how movies get made. I mean, I've got to assume it's like movies here, Like I don't even know if if Doom three, Like, I don't know what's driving it. Like for an American studio, it would be like if it's if it's successful, then we're we're making them every two years, right Mikill cow until it's dead exactly. And and the fact that it went so long makes me wonder if it wasn't a matter of the the actor saying hey, I do one of those and then they're like, oh you would, Oh well okay, then you'll be the reason we'll do another one. Yeah, I haven't gotten Again.
I feel like when when you're someone like a mere Khan, it's like they approach him with ideas for things to be in. But again, like I don't know that for a fact. Again, when you're at the caliber that he's at, it feels more like a big deal to get him, that he's involved that level of star power is hard to I mean again, like when someone is in a movie in our country of that attempt at star caliber or power, it's a big deal. Like a Tom Cruise movie is a big deal. Right, Well does he is?
He also a director and a producer like some of these guys, He's also he's a director, producer. He's also a humanitarian. He also is a and I am not even joking, he is a essentially like one of the non official dignitaries between India and China because he has such a massive following in China. He's like the biggest Indian actor and one of the biggest actors in China. And he's Indian.
Wow okay, wow, all right, Like I'm saying, like there's there are not a lot of there's not a comparison because actors in our country just don't have the I don't think they have the influence the way actors in India do. So really he's more like the he's the Jackie Chan of India. I think he's like the Amir Khan of India. Like that's the problem. Like really, like I don't know, there's no one to compare him.
If you watch them watching him have these sort of elevated sort of you know, he he does action, he does comedy, he does drama, and he writes and he directs and he stars and he is share a one man studio. Yeah, I see, okay, if if you're talking about yeah, I see what you're getting at. Sure, But again, like what's funny is you've got in Hong Kong cinema is like Jackie Chan is kind of the top and he shares it by himself in a lot of ways. In Indian cin like there are multiple there are several people that are like a mir Khan of that same level, and then there are people that are just right beneath them, even like Ron vier Kapoor or prabhus I mean, even actors that aren't necessarily Hindi, their Telugu or Tamil.
Like again, it's it's hard to really draw a line from Indian cinema the way we treat our actors to the way they treat their actors. It's just hard to compare it, and it's unfair. It's unfair to compare them to our actors because again, like I just think it's a it's a there's a different expectation with what they're expecting when you go to the theaters. It's still an experience and a thing to go to the movies. In India, you're going you're getting an entire day's worth of entertainment.
There's an intermission, it's three hours. Like it's not just going to the movies like it is here, Like you have to be an active audience to enjoy these movies, I feel like, and the movie wants you to be actively involved. It's not just all putting on the background and fuck around on your phone. Yeah. Well, and this was the longest of the three, why wasn't it?
Yeah, And and because it was, it also within the film itself, the pacing was a little more relaxed. I mean the first two were were just shots of adrenaline constantly, you know, yeah, coursing through. So that's fine. I would even say the second one more than the first. So the fact that this was a very exciting, you know, dramatic, visually beautiful movie, it was weird to say, oh, this feels a little slow.
Well it did. It did feel slow, But again, I think it's because the movie is not concerning itself with being an action movie, like it's not. It's not even concerning itself with getting to the action set pieces. It's concerning itself with telling the story of a mere con and his brother. Which How did you feel about the twist, because it's not that I think they kind of I think do you think the movie plays fair with the twist?
Is my question because I always I always wonder that with movies playing fair with the twist because it's a pretty big twist. It changes the makeup of the movie drafts, it totally changes it. I do this all the time because of who I am. When when a big story twist happens, I always pause to find out exactly where we are. Maybe typically you're halfway through.
This was almost to this second, Like I I stopped it, and it was like an hour and thirty five minutes have run, and we've got an hour and thirty five minutes to go, right, it would have been it would have been the inter mission point. You would have had like the internmission. You would have had him and like seen that and the flashback and then intermission, and then you come back and they're talking to each other and it's like that's how you send people to the to the to the fucking lobby to get their snacks. Is with like, oh my god, like right, you know we're coming back for the for the for the other movie. You know, it's a whole different ballgame, which is look, I liked it.
What what I found a little less compelling were you know, when they went back and and we're we're kind of recapping moments. I was sort of like, well, you're not really showing us moments where I, as an audience, was like, whoa, wait a second, that's impossible, right, because the movie sets the bar of possibility so hi that I wasn't really questioning these things that they felt they had to go back and go, ha ha, here's how we did it. There was a moment early on when it was clear that the main character so here you know, was part of the Great Indian Circus and knew how to do magic and acrobatics that I thought, Oh, if the earlier movies were sort of a salute too fast and the furious, this is gonna crib from now you see me.
I guess that's what I kept thinking of when I watched, like this is going to be about magic. This is gonna be like like I thought, Oh, that truck that he's in that explodes and he comes out on a motorcycle. I thought, what's really going to happen is one of the panels is going to fall down and it's empty, and it's gonna be like, Oh, that's exactly like the trick we saw. So we're going to see various versions of quote unquote magic tricks, you know, he's going to rob a bank, get locked in the vault that you know, the impregnable vault. He'll get locked in, and then when they open it, he's gone, and everything's going to turn on.
The notion of he's using magic and illusion, Well, they explain this by oh what, Yeah, he is doing that because there's two of him, so we can be in two places at once. But they never There wasn't enough of that in the first half of the movie to make it feel like there was an explanation. It was a reveal. It's like, oh, well, that certainly makes things easier. There's two people, okay, so just two brains you can apply to this and two physical bodies to misdirect the police, I guess.
But but it's not like I mean again, in those early chase scenes, it wasn't like, hey, he's going down. He's turning a corner, you know, into a dead end, and then they all follow him and he's gone right and now he's behind us, you know, when it's like wait a second. And in other words, using that as an explanation for things we saw earlier, I did not find a but that's fine. They quickly got into an emotional story that had to do with, you know, with this young woman Aliyah who comes to audition, who apparently was not allowed to audition, get out to hear you crazy person, and then she comes out and is like the greatest pop star right if who's ever lived on the planet Earth. Oh, I suppose I should have given you five minutes.
Okay, Oh, but once she lost the overalls, that's when they knew. That's when when she when she didn't have overalls on anymore. That's why this is kind of an insulting. It's like she shows up for some reason in overalls, a giant hat, four spare pieces of clothing no one needs, and then her big dance audition turns into a strip tease. It's like, well, okay, you've got the part, because just as I was about to look away, you took off some more clothes.
Well, and that's why I say, like the like the movie's not playing fair because in that scene, it's trying to be like, oh no, no, like this is some secret person. It's like, come on, movie, Like you said, with all of those scenes, I've seen Doom one and Doom two, so I know what these franchise set pieces are capable of how wild they can get. I mean, in the first movie, you have like all kinds of insane motorcycle shit, people doing tricks and motorcycles. The second movie, the movie opens with a guy robbing a train. Come on, so why would I think that a guy driving a motorcycle out of a parking garage is somehow only his brother could have done it?
Like you said, it wasn't playing fair. It just wasn't because my expectations. The movie knows what my expectations are, because I've seen the first two and it didn't play fair. And I don't think the twist could have landed a hell of a lot better if they had kind of given you a little bit of a setup, just a little bit seeding doubt somehow, because then it gives them the opportunity to do something interesting with those set pieces, because the set piece is a rather pedestrian like in a lot of ways, and in some ways they just kind of go on for too long and rely too much on slow mo than anything else, especially the chase scene where he's chased on the ski. Do I guess it's the same scene where he's chased on the ski.
Do the motorcycle turns into a skid and then he's on the river. It's like there's nothing interesting happening. They're just chasing after Yeah. Yeah, Like like I don't I never believe that that individual needed a second person to hold the right right at all. There's nothing here that's like, it's more unrealistic that his like motorcycle can turn into a ski doo.
That was like, oh, that's more unrealistic that he has a brother, Like, all right, you didn't show us who was behind the camera essentially most of the time. Like his brother's like standing off to the side half the time. So what it feels like? And there have been there have been big reveals in Doom two. The big reveal was that the woman working with the bad guy is actually working for Jhi, right, you know, and she's oh, she's a plant, Okay, Well who is she really gonna be loyal to?
That's great. I mean that that that gets you through the second half of the movie. There was a point about halfway through where I was like, wait a second, there's there's gonna be a big reveal. I just don't know what it is, but there's something something's going to happen. That's going to change the rules because the movie's too long.
Yeah, for for for it to only be about this for another you know, hour and twenty minutes. And then and then as I was thinking that it's the oh the bullet wound isn't there, and then the reveal and it's like, oh, okay, got it. Okay, so now this is what will get us through the second half. And again I was perfectly happy, enjoyed it. I identified with both characters.
I didn't sit back and go, oh, well, this is lame, no way, and I hate this character and who cares. I was into it. I mean, that's the other thing is that, you know, when the dust settles, it's still great fun filmmaking well, and you know, I think the second half of the movie also is more of a return to doom in a way like the first movie. The first half of the movie is amir CON's kind of you're with him most of it, like you check back in with Jai and a Leaf from time to time. But the second half of the movie they're more present because i'bi schick Bachan is striking up this friendship with Samar and they're having this whole thing at six Flags, which can we again of because we kind of have not really mentioned it.
This movie takes place in Chicago, and then the Field Museum is the setting for the Great Indian Circus? Oh is that it? Because I'm I'm totally yeah. I believe outside of Coal Shak and the Bob Newhart Show, I really don't know Chicago, but the Field, I believe it's the Field Museum that's used as the Great Indian Circus. He cracks me up that there are banks in Chicago that are being robbed and the robber, the thief is leaving messages in Hindi and then and and this like clown mask.
It's like there's a Great Indian circus on the water front, like with a guy who you know is like they see him robbing the bank too, because at the way he opens that kind of the present day is the him robbing the bank in Chicago and ziplining down the side of the building with no mask on, no nothing. Right. It's like, I feel like this could be solved in five minutes. Jie Dixon doesn't be like, all right, it's the guy at the circus and they go just go the one Indian circus guy in all of Chicago, go lock that guy up. Well, they you run into a problem because you've got two competing pillars of your premise, the first one being these are circus performers, right, Okay, so they're there, they have a public profile, they're performing in front of hundreds of people every night.
Even though this is new. I think the first robbery took place before he reopened the circus, right, but still, and then the fact that you're that you don't cover your face during the robbery is important to pull off the Ah, you thought it was one guy, but it was really identical twins. If he covered his face, it'd be very hard to sort of get excited about the fact that, Oh my god, so the person we were seeing was two people. It's a contrivance for a contrivance's sake, is it's It didn't need to be that contrived, I guarantee. The director was like, this isn't ideal.
All these CGI shots of Amir Khan's face being like transposed onto the actor actually riding the motorcycle. It's like you could have done without those by like, well, having him wear a mask, and it wouldn't have mattered, right, exactly. And and that was the other thing I will say that the uh I found it very impressive. Uh the you know when when Amir Khan was you know, in a scene twice, you know, I mean, oh my god, yeah, I mean it was very well done. Probably the best I've ever seen where where you're watching one actor playing two roles interacting with themselves, you know, physically interacting.
It was very impressive. Yeah, I know that. You know, that is the thing about the second half of the movie that it really had to land that interactions right of Samir and Sahir, because yeah, Amir Khan is just it's him and it's him like to you, nobody else to lean on. And that I think, you know, you want to talk about an actor being given a vehicle for him to be the star, right, that's one thing, but asking an actor to be the vehicle, the driver of the vehicle twice is just like even more impressive. And yeah, I'm I'm with you.
Like, if anything, Amir Khan's dual performance is like the best dual performance I think I've ever seen. Yeah, it's shockingly good. It doesn't deserve to be in this movie. Like in a lot of ways, it deserves to be its own thing. Well, you know, and it's weird because again we're seeing this.
I'm seeing an actor I have never seen before, which is crazy to me. Right, and in India, it's as if you're going to see a Tom Cruise move. You're seeing someone who you've seen before, and you already have a feeling since you were like a kid type thing like since like a mer Kan is someone who, like you, would have been watching his movies as like a kid like I would have been like, ill, the latest Amir Kan movie's coming out, like okay, yeah, right, and then and then to see him playing two roles and these specific two roles, you know, we're people like, oh, I don't like to see him like that, clearly not clearly he's enough of an actor that it's like, oh, no, we we are like I was charmed and you know sort of you know, we're emotionally into the simple brother.
Yeah, some are, and but you don't, like I brought no baggage with me. I was just like, here's a guy. He's cool and extremely you know, smart and you know, four chest moves ahead of everybody. And now he's also oh but now he's sort of the fun simple brother. What was funny about it was in the first half of the movie when he came in and said, I know who the guy is and it's the you know, the closed mouth Charlie.
Yeah, closed mouth Charlie. I'm sort of like, I don't know if this is like what why is this? Like it's interesting when the bad guy comes in and interacts with you know, our star, but I'm like, what's the point of this exactly? I'm not sure I'm getting it, and you beyond, I'm going to insert myself into the investigation so I will be able to track it and also take suspicion off myself. Okay, good enough, But boy, it seemed a little strange.
He was taking a lot of chances. This did not seem like a bad guy who was tremendously dedicated to pulling off his crime until he was a little sloppy, until he was and then he was just willing to kill abishek buck John by having him run over by a roller coaster. That's the other thing. It's so strange, Like he's character, the character Sahir is almost written in a way that like he's tonally inconsistent in a way Samar isn't. Yeah, well that was the strange thing.
It's like at the end, Sahir approaches Jai and he's like, look, lock me up, but let my brother go. And I's like, the last time I saw you, you were in the process of murdering me, literally gonna get smushed out out of existence by a roller coaster. But okay, you know things happen water under the bridge, water under the roller coaster, right, So it's like it's like, what, yeah, So there were moments of like there's some internal inconsistencies here. It's entertaining. I'm enjoying myself, but I am not super taking this seriously.
And that's and that I think is like the overarching issue that I have with this movie is it wants to be so serious but at the same time have fun in a way that Doom one and Doom two did, and you can't have fun that way with this tone and this kind of I mean, look, Jackie Shroff is in this movie. Fantastic actor. He's in this movie for like ten minutes, kills himself in the first ten minutes of the movie in front of his son, of both of his sons. Sons frankly we find out later like this movie, like you set the tone in a really strange way and then you want to have fun with it. But you had our main character's father killing himself in the first five minutes, Like what what tone are you setting?
Well? I remember in Doom two, do you remember the whole Russian roulette sequence? Oh yeah? And I remember us talking about that and going okay, everything was cool, and then there was this super fucking dark, psychotic Russian roulette scene. Oh yeah, and then it's over.
I was like whacked out with rashikross On being like I whan I fucking kill you a bullet trigger. It's like, I like, you don't do this, please. Yeah, it was like super dark and then and it stood out because tonally it was different than everything else. And and then and so this movie had a little bit of that too, And it's weird. I'm trying to figure it out because look, many of these Bollywood films are multi tonal masala films as they would be called.
Okay there, you know, their comedies, their dramas, they're melo dramas, thriller, action, musical, everything, far more than an American film. Got it. So It is funny when you do find tonal inconsistencies within them, because they do. Each one of them does declare it's its little corner of the cinematic world. Even if there's a lot of different flavors, you do expect certain things.
There are borders, right, And I think Doom two crossed it with that one scene, and then Doom three crosses it with again literally trying to murder Jry, which seemed kind of out of nowhere. It's like, well, what is your big problem? Like, you don't really hate this guy. This movie isn't about the two of you. It's about you and the bank.
You hate the bank, which in and of itself is kind of a problem. Frankly, I get it. It takes all of the emotional weight of the movie out of the actual like the conflict is the conflict is secondary. The actual conflict of the movie feels secondary to the plot. Why not just kill the white actor?
Yeah, mister Anderson might not just have him be you know whatever, Yes, an actor totally unknown in America. Like what, well, I don't like again, Like that's why I asked the thing about Chicago, Like why was this set in Chicago? It feels so strange that it's set in Chicago. It's just like, there's some things strange. But it looked I mean it was filmed in Chicago, right, yeah, more it looked like almost all of it, see like the things that take like I don't think that they were doing anything to make a fake Chicago.
But there is some of it that was shot in like Switzerland and other places. Because that damn at the end is not anywhere near Chicago. That wasn't Switzerland. Okay, okay, the damn that comes out of nowhere that clearly does not look like Illinois in any form or fashion. That's true.
There's always, you know, there's always the climbac to damn scene in this movie. You know, it's funny not to make everything about me, but why not? But we did. There's a lot of uh, there's a lot of Oh there's a big scene on a dam in Titans season four. Oh yeah, so I spent some time on a dam and so when we went to this damn, I was like, damn.
Is it just a rule in writing that if you have the characters at a damn, one of them has to go over the dam. It's just Richard Adams rules of going over the dam If there is a damn, someone will go over it. Well not in Titan Oh that's surprising in and of Itsel that's a location. So yeah, but somebody goes over the damn in this and another tonally inconsistent scene. Oh, I think it's the most I think the movie ends on its most tonally inconsistent note and left a really bad taste in my mouth going out of the going out of the viewing experience.
Not because I was like, oh my god, they're dead. I'm so sad. It's just like movie why, Like hey, what what? Like? What was the point?
Then? Right? Well, well again it's sort of like, well, I guess you're just doing your own movie within a movie about these two brothers who had a tragic upbringing, did something together, and then their story concludes. But I mean, and the way it's film is so heightened. They're kind of just floating in down into the abyss together, smiling at each other and at their spiritual future.
It was. It was very strange. But again, because it's a doom movie, I'm like, are we gonna fade to black and then fade up and then we're going to see them at some cafe on the other side of the world like we did in Doom two and realize, Ah, it was all an illusion. That's what I was thinking. No, it's like and the bankers are they're out of business the end, like you know, we didn't care, right and like that was not something anyone cared about.
What does a bank go, Well, they stole all the cash until we had to close our doors. I think doesn't really go out of business because it got robbed three times. I think my favorite kind of weird anachronism that this movie has is at one point there's a newspaper stand that the characters like drive a motorcycle through, like that's not a thing. Maybe it's like thinking like what people think of like big American cities, but there's not like a newspaper stand that says like the old news time on it. Well there is.
I mean, I think two Indian audiences. There has to be a cinematic knowledge of Chicago, right, So if we had seen a boy you know, in a cap and you know, short pants and a sweater vest, you know, going extra extrae read all about it. I mean, we're on lower whacker enough for Fuck's sake Jesus Christ. It feels like most of the step pieces take place on Lower Whacker, which, look, I know why they're there. You know why they're there.
It's because the Dark Knight did such a good job filming down there that everybody wants to run a scene down in Lower Whacker with a motorcycle or a car. And I get it. But setting this movie in Chicago doesn't add anything to the overall flavor of the movie. I don't think, I mean again, unless for for for a native audience, they're like, oh, this is great. We're tired of seeing Mumbai.
This is this is cool. Let's go see our actors in a different city, in an American city. Awesome. Well, but that's the other thing is they didn't do a lot of the you know, it's Jai and Ali in Chicago. It would have been if it had been there movie well yeah, like like, you know, we're not suddenly seeing them at you know, at a Cubs game.
I would have liked to have seen that though, you know, but only if Jai was in his like hilarious disguise that totally didn't disguise him at all, just made him look like him with facial hair. I have a secret to tell you. She's like, dude, we know everybody knows it's you, but except for this simple brother. Right, but he's not the simple brother plot twist, he replaced the simple brother off screen, and things that we never saw happen, okay, to the point where I watched the end of the movie three times to figure out if I had missed something. No, the movie just didn't show us those scenes from the perspective of the characters.
They showed us the scene from the perspective of the character who replaced the character. And it's like, wait, a second movie, that's playing unfair now within playing unfair? Right? Well, well, the other thing was what was Okay? John meets up with somemr Right and takes off his beard and is trying to convince him to stop, right, is that come with me to the police.
We turn yourself in. I'll help you. I understand that. Like it would look to me like maybe your brother's taking advantage of you. You're really the one pushing this like you are again, you're simple, so you're suggestionable, I guess, is what the movie's logic is, Right, It's like you're you're not doing You're not as committed to this as he is.
He's the ring leader. He's the ring leader basically offering the same deal That'sahir asks for on the dam at the end of the movie, right, arrest me let him go. Instead, he he reveals himself and seems even angrier. That's when he straps him to the roller, yeah, and then tries to murder a comp It's like, well, why not just take the deal? Then?
Why just go? Okay, you know what, You're okay. You thought I was the slow one and you offered me a deal, So how about this same deal. I'm going to get out of here. But don't blame my brother because he's out of this.
I guess it's only it's the proximity that they wanted to have the heist done, because remember they end up robbing the bank in between, and that's all it is. It's so that it's could be like, well, now my job is done, and you know, now I can go to prison. It's like, really, the weird part is correct me if I'm wrong. They're robbing the same physical bank over and over again. I think they are taking all of the money, Richard.
I think that is actually what's going on here, which again it's like, I don't want to say it sounds kind of like a dopey way of telling this story, but like that's not how this works in India, and that's not how it works in the United States, because that's not how banks work period, not here, not there, not anywhere. Like, yeah, it's not like there's three piles of money. Oh, they got the first one, they got the second one. They'd better not get that third one. They do, right, well, guys, they turn the sign around on the door of the bank.
Closed out of money, money all gone, money gone. Like again, it if it's if it's a movie that's more heightened than this one is to have it be one of the heists, sure, but it being the singular focus of our main character to shut down a bank that caused his father to kill himself is so just kind of one dimensional, like not it's just kind of I don't say, babyish, but it's not a it's not a heightened way or even a complex way or a mature way of telling this kind of story. Well, I think the satisfying ending for this movie would have, in a weird way, would have been for Samar and Aliyah to be together and for Sahir to go to prison, right, and and we just sort of go, you know what, you're the bad one.
You were taking advantage of your brother. He was not really essential to anything you were doing. It felt like you were just coming up with things that he could do to make him feel involved. But Brendan Dassy is in prison because of supposedly Stephen Avery telling him to do things for him. Similar thing, right, Like the guy who doesn't know any better is just roped in because he doesn't know any better.
Right. But emotionally we would go, oh, okay, so Sahir was the was a good brother who avenged Daddy's death but also allowed his brother who he loved to go have a life, and he will pay for those crimes. And if that's how the movie had ended, you'd be like, great, thank you for both of them to decide no, it's actually probably better if we just die. Seems weird and a little disappointed, a lot disappointing just by the end of the movie. That's why I was like, oh, that was it, Like the fact that the movie ended the way they did.
And then it's like, okay, so we fade to black, they've jumped off this damn they go into the abyss together. I was expecting, like you said, that cuts back and there they are, you know, sitting on the beach or whatever, and like, hey, we got them, We've pulled off one last illusion. Nope, it cuts back to characters that we don't care about getting their comeuppance, which is so unrealistic in the way that it happens that you're just like rolling your eyes because again, it doesn't work that way. And then we have a conclusion to the Katrina caf story that again she's only been in this movie. She's not.
The biggest kind of complaint maybe could be level against movies. Katrina kp is essentially wasted. Given nothing. Of the characters who are given something to do that are introduced in this movie, she's given the least out of anyone to do, and and they and then she and then her her story ends up being the final note of the film, and it feels so unearned that I was just it was. It was like at the end of the Newest Star Wars movie, we're raised like I have a skywalker.
It's like, uh, the fuck you are, Like, no, you're I don't even have an issue with those movies. It's just you didn't earn that shit. It was like at the end of Indiana Jones Floor where Shia Above's about to put the hat on, it's like, you better not because you have not earned you You the narrative, haven't earned that. So don't try to give yourself a pad on the back by getting that conclusion over on the audience, right right, Well, okay, so so yeah, I guess that was the conclusion of her story. I guess our guys go back to India.
Oh, by the way, who was who was the blonde cop Victoria? Another woman for Ali to uh to lust after and go nowhere like in the last two movies. But it didn't even get like it wasn't I mean, even he didn't seem particularly devoted to the notion of really being with this woman. If she was just sort of there for a minute, it felt like, Okay, she's going to be the or a female lead right that that is going to become involved with uh with Jai or Ali, or she's going to have an interesting backstory that has to get resolved in some way based on this case. But then really it's just like Nope, She's only going to be in about three more scenes, and two of them she ain't even gonna talk.
Well go okay, well there you go. Well and it's it's it for me. I think just goes back to this idea that the movie just it seems like it sidelines the doom parts of the movie, like her and Ali would have had a back and forth like in two where he is, you know, kind of being crass, and there is a little bit of it, but it's just you do see that kind of from the second and first movie where he would like visualize him, you know, hanging out with them or spending time with these women in these kind of like dream scenarios while he's talking to them. They do a little bit of it in this movie, but they almost forget it immediately for a mere Kan story because again, like the doom parts of this movie are not what this movie's interested in telling.
It's a movie within a movie. Doom just happens to be the frame that the picture is sitting in of the amir Kan movie, doesn't it also seem weird like I don't And again, my ignorance of Indian filmmaking and its relationship to American filmmaking. But when you think about it, wasn't this an opportunity to get an American actor or actress to co star in one of the biggest franchises in India, Like you could have gotten someone of some stature in America to play a character in this movie. That would have made it feel like, oh, this is a true Like there's a reason for an American audience to watch it. There's you know, obvious reasons for an international and an Indian audience to watch it.
But that never seems to happen. And again, I always look at it from our point of view where I watch these movies and I'm like, that person's great, that person's great, that person's great. Why doesn't you know, you know, Universal or Paramount or Warner Brothers go get that actor and make them one of the Avengers, you know, and bring them and put them in an American franchise and make them a team member on you know, Mission Impossible or something, And and you know, I guess that's happened a little. There are a few, you know, Indian celebrities that have become famous in American productions, but it feels like there should be more. I mean, let me put it this way, if I were as big a deal in my home country as I were when I go work anywhere else, well, I mean, I guess that's it.
I guess you've But but when you're there, they have more people in India than we ever will who will go see movies, right Like, but don't you want to kind of be famous everywhere? I mean depend on It depends on the person. Do you want to do one thing really well or do you want to do several things? Ohkay? Because these actors are so talented and multi talented.
And I get that America as a geographical spot on the globe isn't huge, but our our profile in world filmmaking is so huge. It feels almost irresistible that one of these major stars would go, Okay, I've dominated this. Now I want to go work with scores as yet no or something, or I want to go, you know, make a Marvel movie, and that, I mean, am I crazy? It doesn't feel like that's happened. No, And one of the leads from Triple R recently was talking about how he was like, you know, hey, I would love to be in a Marvel movie, and Kevin Feige like, you should be like pushing harder for this, And I don't disagree, but at the same time, like I don't want I don't want anyone to think I'm like an India file or anything, but I think that I think that in a lot of ways, American cinema is just not that interesting and the audience is, the audience is just not If I'm sitting in a mere Khan's position and I am a massive star in India and China, two countries that are geographically on top of one another, what's the point of going to America an untapped market of how many people that I'm gonna have to work really hard to appeal to?
Well, you know what it is. It's like if I was if I were you know, Michael Wilson or Barbara Broccoli, I would go, ah, Amir Khan, He's he's gonna be the next bad guy in the next Bond, right, exactly one hundred percent right, You're You're completely right that, And that for me is what I think you're totally right about. With the casting in this movie specifically, that was an opportunity. But you'll see if you watch something like Triple R the main villain in that movie is Ray Stevenson. Yeah, you know Ray Stevenson, the actor who played the Punisher in the in the Punisher Warzone movie.
He was in Dexter. He's been in all kinds of stuff, like a pretty high profile British actor. But like you said, casting someone who's more well known leads to I guess, more visibility. I would think, so why not take that opportunity? But at the same time, do you really want to cast someone opposite your actor that may overshadow your act?
Well, I don't know, because I mean, look, look, the Bond movies cast charismatic bad guys. They don't seem to be a fait expectation. Christopher Walken, David Bowie, Benicio del Toro, Matts Michelson. I mean they're not. They're not, you know, Christoph Waltz.
They're not afraid of letting that be big. They don't. They don't really in Bond films. They don't let the director be big, like you can't, like there's a rule, like there's a reason Spielberg, who has said he would love to do a Bond movie, has never been allowed to do a Bond movie because no one can be bigger than Bond in the production, So you can't have a direct You can't go to a Bond movie and go to it thinking you're seeing a Steven Spielberg movie. Right, It's got to be a Bond movie, right, Which is fine.
I get all that, but that's not the rule when it comes to talent, Like you can go and get international talent anyway. I don't know. I'm with I'm I'm with you one hundred percent, like I don't. I wish that Indian actors like Amir Khan had a bigger presence for Western audiences of non Indian transplants living here because he has the acting talent that people like yourself and like myself would resonate with because we did with this movie and he's not speaking English, because it goes both ways. By the way I think it worked.
I think there was, you know, a lot of people who didn't know who Jackie Chan was, and then Jackie Chan did Rush Hour, and then Americans were like, Hey, there's this guy named Jackie Chan and he's got a bunch of other movies, and then they went and saw the thirty Hong Kong movies he'd done, or some of them did. It's a way to raise see here's the here's what I'm getting at and because it goes both ways, right, because of you, I watched my very first Bollywood movie and then since then I've probably seen a dozen of them. I know there's hundreds more, and I'll see many of them because of this show. And it makes me feel like, well, these arm movies that any American can sit down and enjoy. Yeah, they're subtitled, okay, but beyond that you're getting You're getting a story, You're getting action and romance and entertainment.
There is no it's not some impenetrable cultural brick wall you're trying to call your way through to even understand what this culture is thinking. You're watching a movie. And I feel like I want to tell everybody I know, hey, don't be afraid of the subtitles. Go watch Doom one and two and maybe three and I and enjoy it. And I think that would happen more readily if people were like, oh, that guy from the Bond movie, he was awesome, you know, or that guy from the whatever, like, oh, because a mere Khan and you know, uh, Owen Wilson did a Western comedy together, like Shanghai.
Noon, great, I want to see more of that guy and then you It would be a way for American audiences to then go, ah, I know what that flavor is. Now I can go watch some Bollywood movies and then enjoy those in a way that so few do. There it is, Richard, There's there, It is. There is the thing that our friendship has been leading to is that's the movie. I mean theoretically it hasn't happened yet, nobody's done it.
And I'm telling you, in the next ten years, this will this will not be the conversation we will be having right right, right, right right, We will be having a conversation of like Amir Khan is a big deal in the States now, or shah ru Khan, or it more than likely will be Ron vier Kapor, who's the lead in Brahmastra, which is their kind of MCU attempt. I think even had Kevin Faigi. They've talked to Kevin Faigi and he like brought them over to the States and was like having I mean again, like I feel like we have we as Westerners have been skimping on getting involved in the cinema of other countries, and now there's no excuse because this is on fucking Prime video. Well not only that, but it's clear that it's clear that these actors are fluent in English, and you know, there's no there's no language mountain range to be crossed.
They can step into an American an English language film and have no problem. So it's not even that. So I hope you're right. And in ten years when we are having this conversation, which we absolutely will be because we'll be doing our ten thousandth podcast together, we can mark this day as the day when we said it's going to happen. I agree, I don't again.
I think Triple R is a very good way for a lot of people to get an early look what the kind of Indian cinema is that more people in this country are going to resonate with. And it's stuff like Doom, but it's even more bomb basted, and it's even more heightened and over the top and unlike anything you will see when you watch a Western action movie. And I think that now we as Westerners have become a little jaded with our own action movies and kind of just the samity, the same sameness of them, and seeing something like Triple R on Netflix, like Doom three is on Prime Video. It's easily accessible, has subtitles, and even in the case of some of these movies, if they're big enough, English dubb not advocating for it, but if that's what it fucking takes, that's what it takes well, and I think it is time if it if it comes with a tonal shift in large American action films, that that does go a little bigger, but at the same time does not take itself so seriously.
That's good too. These movies, even this one there was probably of the Doom movies, the one that took itself the most seriously. It still did not take itself super seriously. No, and not not at all. And I'm with you.
I mean, I think the time of the Christopher Nolan, Christopher nolanization of action movies, I think were finally seemingly on the other side of it, finally, hopefully, but things like this existed during that time. It was just no, they they weren't being influenced by Chris Nolan the way we were. Right, why our Western action movies essentially all became these gritty, serious, devoid of fun, to the point where James Bond, the one thing that should have always been fun wasn't even fun. No. Yeah, It's like Mission Impossible has sort of drifted back a little bit into you know, you know, hiring Simon Pegg to play a role right and in a certain way, trying to embrace a level of humor and allow a level of over the top exuberance that where the audience is welcome to to not just sit in, you know, and be beaten down by the size of a action sequence, but to actually be lifted and feel a sort of sense of giddy weightlessness, which you used to get from movies like the nineteen eighties Roger Moore James Bond movies and in the Indiana Jones movies, the early you know, the first couple, uh, where you're allowed to feel joy and not just wow, I have just been beaten into submission by one hundred million dollars of CGI, right, and I'm and I'm completely with you, you know.
Uh. Dustin on the Bahubali episode put it put it better than I ever could, which is Indian cinema seems to leave some room for the joy of filmmaking to still exist and it and and that's the truth, Like it feels like with American cinema, the joy of filmmaking is not allowed to exist inside of the movies anymore. Maybe not not entirely the case, but in small cases that may still be the case someone like Jordan Peel, someone like Scorsese maybe, but even then it's like, how how much room do you leave for the joy of filmmaking to come through, for you to really let the audience know that they're allowed to have a good time and enjoy themselves. And it feels like now we're not allowed to feel good about the things you watch anymore, or like, oh, it's a guilty pleasure.
It's like, why you should enjoy something you're watching, Jesus Christ. If you don't enjoy what you're watching, watching shit for real, Like you're watching the wrong things. Because no such thing as a guilty pleasure, just pleasure. Yeah, please, Because like, if you're not consuming art because you want to, then you should go do something else, seriously, because there's plenty of other things you can do other than watch movies. So Richard final thoughts on Doom three, the conclusion of a trilogy of films definitely worth seeing for American little sad that my old buddy's Jai and Ali didn't have more to do, but also a worthy conclusion, It did not leave me desperate for a fourth I think that all of these performers have bigger and better things that they went on to and are still going to go do.
Yeah, I'm with you, you know. I think if you've watched Doom one and Doom two, do yourself a favor and watch the third one. I have close friends who I've talked to about this movie and have told me that this is their face favorite one. So again, maybe it's because of a Mirkan. Well, yeah, well you love that guy, and I buy that.
I would not argue that for a second, right, And I totally get why if you like the third one, you're probably more than likely also a fan of Amir Khan. Those two things necessarily need to be the case. But if you're a fan of a mere con, you're probably gonna love this Doom movie because this is the only one that he's in. However, I think, like yourself, I think I don't need a fourth one. Not even sure I needed a third one, frankly, but I wish I wish there had been more of the things I wanted and got in the first two movies, But ultimately the story that they told I think was still a worthwhile story to be told, even if in the end the landing is not necessarily stuck very well.
Because sending the audience out on such a low note is is is a choice, and I kinda I applaud them for going for it, because it's not a choice I would have gone for. But hey, send the audience out however you want. But that's one way to do it, I guess. So agreed. Yeah, So until the next time you and I talk about Bollywood cinema or movies in general.
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This was fun. The Doom's over. No more Doom movies. It is kind of sad butter sweet, huh, a little bitter sweet. But but what I like about all this is that I'm with each movie I watch, I meet a new star, and I I I sort of, uh, you know, sort of push back the borders of my international film knowledge with uh, with the actors and and the movies.
So I'm ready to I'm ready to get you more as soon as you are. It feels nice to watch something that you have never seen before and feel like you're discovering it for the first time. Absolutely, yeah, And that's you know what, that's that's ultimately what my whole point with this show is. So until the next episode, we'll see you then



